Dangerous Dealings | Critical Role: VOX MACHINA | Episode 42
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In the wake of the devastation of Emon, Vox Machina begin making their long term plans to take back the city. But first, they must decide whether or not to make a devil's bargain with the Clasp: a dangerous underground criminal organization.
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Percy said he hates to be the bearer of bad news but he is literally the bearer of Bad News
He never said he liked it, though 😩
i just understood the name of his fukin gun goddamn it taliesin
@@chamomillesip I think he at one point said (Percy or just Tal I can’t remember the context) that it’s called that cuz Bad News travels fast. Incredible.
You're both a gentleman and a scholar.
Oh god ur right XD
“I’ve never been to Whitestone, is it cold?”
“In the winter.”
“... It’s winter.”
*Ensuing laughter*
Time stamp: 45:10
I laughed so hard at this part rofl! Even made an earlier comment just you beat me to it by a half year or so lol
I watched this twice it was so funny. Good God that was comedy gold
Old comment but I don't care --- this was hilarious! I was listening to the spotify podcast on my commute and had to rewind I loved it so much!
Matt is so damn sharp. That shit killed me.
"I like that we're sending them to the place with the Orb of Death."
"What was that?"
"You might be able to see your breath!"
"Oh, winter right!"
Great save there!
So damn smooth
That was a dex save and a half
@@Titoichi1986 you mean a "Vex save?" ;D
Laura Baily is briliant, only second to Sam in wit.
Imagine being the person who is delivering Scanlan's painting. Traveling slowly along a dirt path in an old wooden cart, finding out there's dragons in the nearby city, managing to sneak past them somehow and arrive at Greyskull Keep to finally deliver the painting... Only to find Scanlan's letter Forwarding the delivery back to Whitestone where you started your journey.
"Remember to shop at Gilmore's Ruined Rubble, for all your reclaimed wood needs!"
When every splinter bit helps
Gilmore’s Glorious Woods!
“It’s one gold per intact plank”
I spit out my f***ing drink 💜
That comment probably wouldn't "jangle his dingles"
"what would you like to do"
"Kill all the dragons and save the day"
"Roll for it"
"Natural 20"
"You wake up"
[wakes up]
"hey! you! you're finally awake. you were trying to cross the border right, walked right into that Imperial ambush, same as us, and that thief over ther-
@@enderesting Wow. Just wow.
@@enderesting (claps) Bravo. Well done
@@enderesting dammit I was gonna write that xD it's also great cuz Laura accidentally referred to Westruun as Whiterun too lmao
@@enderesting Dammit. Beat Me To The Punch
"I've never been to Whitestone. Is it cold?"
"In the winter..."
"It's winter!"
Easily the best quote! How’s life treating you 7 years after seeing this?
First time watcher:
Gotta say, having Vax get his Clasp mark replaced with a burned imprint of Keyleth's hand is one HELL of a heavy symbolic gesture.
“I am far, but I am not gone.”
@@envymordecai4429 and now I’m crying…. Again.
"Can I take a roll for being a nerd?"
I love you Taliesin. :D
I want to like but my ocd wont let me take it off of 300
zap 4th
There, now it's even worse. 3-5-3, now it's the structure of a haiku. 😎
#imatryhard
That would be a nice shirt sentence
@@joshuastender4871 isn't a haiku 5-7-5?
I just heard him say this right as I read this comment 😂
*Keyleth lets Vax into her room*
Laura (mouths): "They're gonna fuck."
I love Laura so much.
lol, she definitely did
FoolishAnonymous HA! This was the first comment on my feed, and was sooo much funnier than I expected.
FoolishAnonymous Thank you for this comment
I went back to that part just to watch her lips lol
What part? I listen to this at work, I only open up the videos to see things in the wonderful time stamps that people post... otherwise I have to keep it minimized :(
1:03:22 Percy says he's not good at being the bearer of Bad News, but in fact he's the only one who can use it.
hah
Josh Haworth
* High fives *
thought exactly the same thing! xD
Ba Dum Tss
well done!
"Have you heard tale of Scanlan the Bard?
Or Burt Reynolds, if you look at his card.
Always tries to get laid
Sometimes with ladies he made!
But I still respect him, 'cause rhyming is hard!"
Laura's limerick needs more appreciation! That was masterful!
Isn’t it Burnt Reynolds? I thought it was Burnt.
I'm scrolling the comments because this just came up in game and I LOVED it, and I needed to see that other people appreciate it. Very clever. Lost it at everyone's facials XD 2:31:28
"Have you heard tale of Scanlan the Bard?
Or Burt Reynolds if you look at his card.
Always tries to get laid
Sometimes with ladies he made
But I still respect him because rhyming is hard."
~Vex
RIP Burt Reynolds
I wish the last line was "but I still respect him, cant be dim to write hymns"
@@dieselsince88 but then it wouldn't be a limerick
This video gets a like just for that.
Yo guys i have a question. Why does taliesin`s hands constantly shaking.
"Is Clarota still here with us?"
This is why I love Sam, I've lost count of how many times I've gone back to listen to it again, it's so good lmfao
Where is larkin?
Sam is a genius. "You know Vex, I don't wanna be alone right now" is such a funny recycling of the tension vax created lmao
Agreed; sometimes I wonder if Sam will try to play a non-comic-relief character, and then I think - nah, don't do it!!!
That’s why I love clarota
And that part where Vex said “omg Scanlan, it’s okay, I got you!” Right after Scanlan got hit for 52 damage and nearly dying, he came back with “Yea you got me good with that attack you did on the last turn” LMAO!
Cons: dragons attacking all of Tal’dorei
Pros: a reason for Percy to steal an airship
All ways a good thing when you can steal an airship.
A small price to pay for an airship...
I'm still sad that for all the campaign they didn't get to do it. It's not fair towards anyone - the players, Matt, the audience; just loss at all fronts.
*Hindenburg flashbacks* 😬
"This is just how Schindler did it!"
Mercer's head goes down... O'brien is speechless... Ray snorts... Bailey keels over laughing...
Well done, as per usual, Mr. Riegel.
I coughed of so much laughter. It was wild that he made that association.
Sam Riegel’s grandmother was a Holocaust survivor so he 100% gets to make that joke
What a line ! A second or so before it watch his eyes and you can see the moment the line comes to him !!
Absolutely buckled
@@zetazimmer4769 anyone does. It's just a joke
@@reverieofmusic436 "it's just a joke" is not the defence you think it is.
Percy has gone from being practically a non-entity for me to being a solid and enjoyable character. Even when he's doing "wrong" I enjoy him because he plays it well. I'm not saying he wasn't important during the Kraghammer arc but he was kinda quiet and some of the other characters kinda... drowned him out.
Matt talks in one of his videos about ways to bring a potentially shy player out of their shell by giving them the spotlight and I think he did that excellently with the Briarwood arc.
this is interesting perspective, because my immediate assumption was that Taliesin did that on purpose to show the difference in Percy before and after he got rid of the vengeance demon
I think he definitely tried to show a change in Percy as a result of getting shot of Orrthax but that was a relatively slow process.
I mean just in the sense of... from the moment the Briarwoods are mentioned Tallesin starts playing Percy as being more of an instigator rather than a reactor and that fits perfectly with what Matt says about the subject in his tips video as well as... Tallesin did seem the least comfortable, initially, with doing the streams. I'm not saying he didn't want to do them or anything of the sort. Just that, of everyone, he seemed the most self-aware. Again, it all fits in so perfectly with that GM Tips video. And now Tallesin is undoubtedly one of the bolder role-players of the group.
Well, that's not fair... they're all pretty bold now.
I haven't seen Matt's video, so I can't add anything, but I see your point and I'm inclined to believe :)
hes probably my least favourite character, the tongue extraction and facial scarring was the point of no return for his character imo, characters have defining moments and with that scene he failed and just became a tone deaf steampunk guy for me even after orthaxs defeat he acted like he knew what was best for everyone. In general i find he acts like a genius but just comes across as pretty stupid, more so than talisan intends. Take the death orb sling shot he had planned to fire at the dragon hah "i have ideas" lol sureeee you doo xD
@@instinct9672 Hmm, very different take then most people. A lot of people love "No Mercy" Percy, it's usually Keyleth on people's shit list. Not attacking any of your feelings towards either character, just thinking you have a very unique perspective.
Grog after CHOPPING A GUY IN HALF: “Told you he’d open up to me!”
Reminds me of the time our barbarian left somebody bleeding out who had not given us the information we needed, so he berated him for being "pasty and evasive."
Time stamp: 1:45:15
Think its funny everyone plays a barbarian as a two-handed weapon wielding guy, tried a sword and shield totem barbarian, i was a amazing tank, was going to add battle Master for more dmg and some control
@@OutlawWalker sword and shield are good for barbarians, but two hand, heavy weapon is pretty much objectively better. Better damage and Barbarians don’t care that much about AC, they usually focus more on hp
Scanlan :Haaaaa......
Vex: YOU SAID YOU HAD 55?
Scanlan: haaaaAAAA!
Scanlan: I saw my mother. Also me failing in math class.
"I saw my mother."
"Did you try to sleep with her?"
Time stamp: 1:52:02 (the amount of scrubbing I did to get to this time stamp- worth it tho lol)
Repost to move closer to top
Game starts with a recap
10:54 - Part 1 begins
12:45 - Remembering Events
15:04 - Scanlan, Wordsmith
20:00 - Marked
23:22 - Percy's thoughts on Greed
24:10 - Grog's Plan for Scanlan
32:00 - Whispers
38:43 - Taliesin's Pun
45:08 - "You'll LOVE Whitestone!"
45:30 - Nice save Vex
47:05 - Scanlan's List
50:09 - Scanlan inspires Keyleth with a limerick
56:50 - Realm Seer (Idk how to spell the rest)
1:06:30 - Anti-magic missile
1:08:56 - Percy Wisdom
1:13:10 - I will fight you
1:27:59 - Scanlan sings a song at the enemy [based on U2 - I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For]
1:33:45 - Top Gun Debate
1:35:16 - Scanlan inspires Vax with a song [based on David Bowie - Ground Control to Major Tom]
1:40:05 - The Chickening
1:45:35 - Grog crits
1:50:35 - Cutting Flute
1:52:00 - A Close Call
1:58:02 - Scanlan sings to himself [based on Tubthumping (i get knocked down) by Chumbawamba]
2:00:40 - Keyleth Brings THE FIRE
2:14:29 - How Do You Want To Do This?
2:19:42 - Part 1 ends
2:19:48 - Part 2 begins
2:25:00 - More Backstory
2:31:10 - Vex's Limerick (Limerick read at 2:31:27)
2:53:49 - Percy's so freaking cool
3:08:20 - Vax Visits Keyleth
3:09:40 - Scanlan Tries His Luck
3:31:31 - Aldore! The sort-of love interest of Felcia Day's character
3:36:29 - Part 2 ends
Cheers!
Thank you
Thanks
I wish Geek & Sundry would pin these to the top... but then again, they might not be monitoring anything anymore.
Boost
"This is how schindler did it by the way"
Damn, that's dark. And I love how Sam's eyes go left and right in wonder right before he tells the joke. "Should I ? Prolly not. Let's do this."
Is there a time stamp for this?
@@Ginric99 ua-cam.com/video/qWoloOxtvc0/v-deo.html
I just love Laura going "What?? *Samuel* "
Dark humour gold!
Oh my God Travis plays dumb so well. It's not easy to make a character like Grog have character growth or depth and he does it beautifully.
I felt it slipped slightly the past few episodes around the skull, it felt to much that Travis wanted to get the wish as opposed to exactly the way Grog would act in that situation.
@@Ginric99 Not at all actually. Matt actually summed it up when Vex did an insight check on Grog: He is a simple-minded individual that sees a simple solution to a complex problem.
A non-intelligent character that just saw 4 dragons and barely left a mark after multiple attacks will come to a conclusion that a talking skull with a wish is indeed a lot better than crazy dragons.
I liked to think that was maybe the sword and skull starting to have an influence on him, as he did say he was the other "evil" member of the party, however the intelligence part did slip "up", if you will. Still fantastic play that I can only ever hope to reach :]
@DannyGirl percy honestly was pretty shady there too. Grog was trying to do the simple solution and didn't understand it was a bad choice. Percy understood it was a bad choice but didn't make it clear what his intent was. He does have a bit of a dark addiction.
I love how he plays the innocent child like mentality at times. Like in his eyes.
“I’ve met the devil- that’s not him.”
Taliesin Jaffe deserves all the awards.
And then he goes and tells us that "Life needs things to live."
@@joshhaworth2155 it was a well played moment. His character is wise but not very intelligent. He grasps complex concepts but explains them in a simplistic manner.
He was loosely saying, creation requires destruction, under the cloak of role playing as Caduceus.
@@ogrbell8297 I know, I was just pointing out how funny the juxtaposition was.
@@ogrbell8297 it's the opposite actually, Percy is smart but not wise.
@@m.rachman1288 correct. Percy is smart not wise. However Percy only said the devil bit. Caduceus said the things need things to live bit. Cad is wise not smart.
I didn’t set up that message well. Or this one frankly. Forgive the paraphrasing.
Laura: I like that we’re sending them to the place with the orb of death.
NPC: What was that?
Vex: I said you might be able to see your breath!
Marisha: *High-pitched squeals*
I love these knuckleheads.
I feel like Eskil Rydarian in this days of quarantine.
"I cant go to library to study because there is plague and the world is on fire. How inconvenient."
Same
I had the exact same thought.
Time stamp ish(?) I assume it’s around this time 1:00:23 correct me if I’m wrong :’3
Edit: probably more in this one 1:01:00
Foreshadowing level: the Simpsons
Vax: I don't want to be alone tonight
*literally everyone's eyebrows raise and gasp*
Sam's face at this moment is hilarious
And Travis is looking at Matt. 03:08:47
Laura's eyebrows practically launched off her head.
@@Logan_Baron lmao
I know I'm shameless but I at least wanted a LITTLE more roleplay between them of what happened!! They must have at least talked?? Oh maaaaaan
Liam: It’s pronounced “Jif”
Matt (still in DM mode): Yes. *realizes what he just said yes to* I’ll fight you.
Time stamp
1:13:20 -timestamp
Especially when it’s pronounced Yiff
3:34:38
...you want to tell me... that Matthew Fucking Mercer... figured out TIMEZONES for Exandria as well???
This man terrifies me more and more with each episode of this arc, does this man even sleep
Just when you think you have Matt figured out, he goes and pulls out something like that and blows away your expectations. He went and figured out 1700s style ship combat purely because of Fjord's sailing background and wanted to be prepared for it. He mapped out*l *all* of Whitestone in the off chance that Vox Machina wanted to go somewhere random in the city. Matt's level of readiness is insane
Oh yes, Matt is insane, isn't he? Sometimes I DO wonder if that man sleeps at all, ever, or if he is just always up preparing something. Or does he just dream of his worldbuilding and preparation? Like, I wouldn't even think of timezones for this world, much less would I be able to just quickly figure out how that translate for these wildly teleporting travelers.
Damn do I admire him for his worldbuilding...
i'm guessing he just made it up basically on the spot, still impressive on-the-fly thinking
Pretty sure he just made them up for plot devices since Exandria is flat
Matthew Mercer is not human
Vex: I like how we're sending them to the place with the orb of death
Refugee: What was that?
Vex: Oh, I was saying you might be able to see your own breath
That killed me XD
The crazy improv moments like that are soooo good imo :)
@@sydney4814 Vex has the BEST improv comments. the one about the boy being able to anything he wants and vex pipes in about staying away from playing the flute. i peed alittle
NicoDemus WhoDak I thought it was the lute, but honestly, both work 😅
"Is it.. Cold?"
"In the winter."
"It's winter!"
" I love how we're sending them to the city with the orb of death."
" What was that orb of death?"
" No I said you might see your breath!"
"Yah, right because it's winter..."
I've watched that scene so many times and it still makes me cry laughing
I replayed that like 8 times 🤣🤣🤣
Can we just take a minute to appreciate the hours and hours of work put into giving all these episodes subtitles? It's so amazing!
You beat me to this comment. Whoever does the subtitles deserves the whole world
I think Liam does them
I believe it was a team of volunteers for these episodes!
There. Are. Subtitles?
Jacob B you have been blessed with that information. Go forth and conquer.
Travis comments during the tree line up were brilliant…
“Kids shouldn’t get separated from family”
“They have to grow up at some point”
“Injured people first”
“Cause they’ll go through real quick”
Timestamp?
@@user-yy7tw9hv9n 46:32 46:52
I love that he intimidated ppl into running forward who hadn't even intended to go that run. 😂 it gets me every time
My favorite Percy line:
"It's politics, you're not supposed to like them"
extremely relevant
He's got so many good quotes per episode
Watching this on November 5th, 2020. Couldn’t be more true
Watching this in July 22, 2021, it is SCARILY accurate.
Watching this with my thumb up my ass and this is so so relatable
I have literally watched the exchange at 45:08 more than a dozen times and it still makes me laugh. Matt's concerned peasant voice and the look on his face when he says "It's winter!" just kill me.
Oh my gosh, the limerick Vex created for Scanlan was AMAZING. Poor Liam almost died. XD Bless you, Laura.
Marisha deals 42 firedamage to each of the foes
Liam: "Gingers, man..."
Matt, without hesitation: "Word."
He's been firestormed by Marisha more than once
I-is that a euphemism?
As a ginger, I approve, lmao.
Caleb drives this home.
Time stamp pls
Just want to take a moment to draw attention to how attentive Travis always is. For someone who essentially has very few choices in battle by comparison, you can see him get lost in Matt's descriptions while everyone else is talking with each other or rolling.
It can actually be really sad sometimes when Matt's giving a description you can tell he worked hard on and everyone is distracted or goofing off
I agree completely, I think the 2nd campaign they got ALOT better about that. The RP has gotten better as well!
I'd actually say Tal and Marisha are the ones who goof off amongst themselves the most, but Tal does also seem to be more attentive than others
I love Travis!
The goofing off is really adorable though
@@TraskTrojanek Tal is probably so experienced in tabletop games that he knows how to visualize the situation based on instinct alone, allowing him to divide his attention. Really fascinating how he manages to talk and goof but still catch the details.
"I have met the Devil, that's not him." Dayum! Percy with the quotes!
I love how for a split second the whole room was quiet and then collectively decided to disregard that statement as just another Percy quote
superlolgal555 it’s funny how Taliesin’s amazing one liners keep being unrecognized
Also, “That wasn’t the kind of ship I was hoping to get.”
@@upsidedownpyramid7617 So unrecognized that under literally every video there is a top comment mentioning his one liners. I love Taliesin but these comments get old so extremely fast.
@@upsidedownpyramid7617 Well, when he's not on camera he speaks entirely in arcane Latin poetry, so the cast is entirely unfazed by his dramatic lines on the show.
Best line. Is Clarota still here?
*you're
"the most basic shit" riiiiiiiiiiiiiight
to be entirely honest, even now, i still miss Clarota
Mee Ra I loved Clarota
Clarota was awesome! I wish he had stayed for longer.
3:08:45 Liam "Hi. I don't want to be alone tonight."
Laura, Taliesen, and Sam: Synchronized eyebrows!
I came here looking for this comment specifically
@@yolumith4331 same bro
Is it ever really stated that anything sexual occurred? Ngl to me at least it didn't seem to give that vibe but I could be wrong
@@TheAstrobiologistOW Not explicitly, I don't believe. For all we know, they just cuddled.
*cue Careless Whisper*
I'm sorry, but that "You might be able to see your breath!" improvised joke was the funniest shit I've ever heard.
Liam quietly murmuring "yeah, rogue" every time Vex does some rogue shit is seriously the light of my life. Also I can see the root of Beau's thirst for parkour, lol
it has the same energy as travis celebrating whenever ashley rages in C2, its great!
MONK SHIT
Also. Parkour is literally the basis of monk movement. If you arent parkouring you arent monking.
Keyleth: "I cast my 7th level fire storm!"
Scanlan: "Oh god we're all gonna die"
because marisha plays an awful druid, I mean a straight embarrassment to watch. They need a new campaign without her honestly
She has her 'd'oh' moments, but honestly she's one of the better players/characters.
Sam Carter she is no where near that. She is the worst player sitting at the table. Both As marisha and keyleth. She needs to study druid more, her mistakes cost the group a lot, and honestly, as a druid she should be able to control the battlefield bit she fails to do that. Matt needs to sit with her and explain what a druid is capable of and what she can do to help the party.
Yeah except she's playing a young girl who is still learning HOW to be a Druid. Her mistakes actually end up being more in character for her than if she actually thought about them.
crazysnypa it's fine, in any normal campaign this would be normal for someone to forget what spells do
How Matthew Mercer can make so many sounds is beyond me. It's insane his vocal range for creatures, people, monsters... Unreal man. A man of superb talent.
Reminds me of the dude from Halo 2 who did all the crazy creature noises and that nuts vocal/subvocal voice of the Gravemind without sfx aid
And it's easy to picture him playing with action figures as a kid doing all the voices and sound effects as the battles rage on! I do love how everyone compliments him on it from time to time, and I love seeing him acknowledge that appreciation in his usual humble way.
The occasional blunders are humbling too, and everyone gets a kick out of them or ignores it out of respect for the moment
I know, right? He should become a voice actor or something.
@@IRQ17yeah. He could make a good Jotaro for example
"I met the devil, that's not him"
-Percival Fredrickstein von Musel Klossowski de Rolo III of Whitestone
"Bonfires? In a SEWER?"
*dark souls flashbacks commence*
The most legit comment I've ever saw
And darkest dungeon
They’d go in hollow in no time. The Poor bastards.
Okay, so Matt's impressions of player characters are well-known for their accuracy, but HOLY COW that Thorbir was just SPOOKY how close it was.
He could be a substitute voice actor for any wil Wheaton role
@@k0pstl939 only purpose for the will is to counterbalance the Jaffe cake........ My man perch got so many nat 20
48:30 the biggest gut punch to me in the last few episodes,
Vex: "Child, where are your parents?"
Kid: "They haven't showed up yet."
2:59:03
"I never forget that when I rule, I rule these people as well."
Beautiful and powerful line by Percy. It's crazy to see his transformation pre to post Brairwood arc.
From a character that was just there in the background, to a full on leader amongst his peers.
Exactly. And no offense to Marisha, but her character tanked a deal that they've been setting up for two episodes with her ridiculously fluid morality. She picks fights with Paladins, sticks up for mind-flayers, and then this? I really, really don't understand her!
@@ZakEmber Neither does Marisha
No hate, but all I ever see are people praising Marisha for her RP of Keyleth, but more often than not she just ends up a thorn in the side, and a passive aggressive one, at that. Quite obnoxious, in my opinion. It's nice to see that not everybody kisses her ass.
@@ZakEmber she would rather kill all the people of the city than make a deal with thieves...
@@ZakEmber I've never liked Keyleth for this exact reason. She clearly thinks she is better than all these people. Both she and Vax I find to have this sense that their way is the only right way. Very holier than thou. Not even Pike is like that.
I love the idea of Percy being the father of invention and starts the planning of many of modern technology 100s of years in the future of their Universe. "Keep them moving forward so we don't end up in a bottom-of-an-escalator-situation. What's an escalator? It's something I'm working on it's gonna be great"
+
Percy = da vinci
Wouldn't be surprised if in campaign 3 they have an artificer in their party.
Im the 69th guy to tell u this oine was great!
@@zacharygadzinski3147 Spoilers: They get an artificer in this camaign (well, in the aftermath of this campaign) and he's played by Sam Riegal. Don't worry, Scanlan's fine.
Can I take a moment to talk about how amazing Matt's wyvern noises are? I mean, I know voice acting is his job, but that's a really spectacular noise.
Joe Auerbach I was thinking the same! I had to play it back to listen to it. His general monster noises are brilliant. Glad someone else here noticed and appreciated it 😊
He is also a professional "monster sound" voice actor for video games.
He's good, but I'm not so sure I liked the Wyvern voice :P
They sounded more like a long-necked hoarse chicken/bird, maybe it'd fit a Cockatrice, but I'm not sure if it'd fit a mighty, large, barrel chested demidragon!
Hell, even his creaky door noises are amazing! I spend my listening time mimicking him as best as I can. My cats haven't come near me in weeks😂😂
If you want to compliment monster noises, the Cloaker after it lost an eye.
"Good girls don't scry." / *collective groans* / "Just because you can doesn't mean you should." ~ Taliesin and Liam
Big girls, as in grown adults.
I love Matt's Pike impression. He's spot on with the adorable factor lol.
nachoguy5 "Yeeeeah. ^_^ "
I am just watching this for the first time, and I notice how many time Matt mentioned the Temple of Bahamut in Vasselheim, the one place where they should probably ask how to kill chromatic dragons, or at least find some allies to help in the fight. Matt is trully a master in storytelling, in general.
And that's the one place in Vasselheim none of them went to at the end of the episode. 😡
Sure as shit hope they don't treat the Sphinx like they treated Seeker Asuum.
@@billbill3915 to be fair, the Slayer's Take is also quite reliable.
Watched the old old pre stream clip Liam filmed of them and he does the same with the flying carpet
Honestly my favorite moments of these are when the party members plan together and banter together and matt doesn't talk for like 20 mins, he just sits there giggling and watching.
Richard Dennis oh same. it's so fun to watch Matt's little changes in facial expression to hint at how accurate or effective their plans would be
I love Percy's rant at Keyleth near the end at 2:58:50. I think it's the first time we hear him get outspokenly mad at any of the group. Normally he's laid back making funny remarks but this is the first time he's not just fundamentally disagreed with a decision but vocalised how much he thinks it's a mistake.
And he did it so gracefully too. He accepted her decision in front of the Clasp as a show of solidarity and only told her how he disagreed once they were out of earshot. He kept his voice low and measured and didn't yell. And he didn't call her out for denying that she was playing holier-than-thou with them, which she absolutely was.
It's ironic that she hated Kima because she ACTS like the types of overzealous hypocrite she was accusing Kima of being, with no evidence. She talked about the harm that can be done by people with righteous convictions and then does the same thing here.
Was a great speech, though gotta say, if I heard my ruler say he didn't think he was better than a literal den of thieves and murderers... I mean I wouldn't be thrilled.
Keyleths come back shouldn't have been "I don't think I'm better meeeh :(". It should have been "NO Percy. Rulers SHOULD be better than gangsters."
I mean he was right. It should have come back and bit them in the ass later tbh. I so wanted them to take a proper tumble from that gigant ass horse they are on
@@Elaksomfan I'd say that they would have bitten in the ass much more if they had taken that deal. The residium from Whitestone is an extremely, extremely valuable and powerful material. On top of that, they would be responsible for starting a branch of the criminal underworld in the holy city of Vassalheim. The consequences for those two things are far-reaching. You can't keep selling the future for the present. Not that Keyleth is necessarily right in her stance, but neither is Percy.
@@infinityseven5924 Tal's just typically better at articulating his thoughts as Percy with snappy lines and confident delivery that sound good in the moment. While there's a thread of somewhat misanthropic logic in a lot of his arguments, there are frequently major problems with things he says that wouldn't hold up to real challenge. Especially when looked at from the big picture. But it's the Paul Atreides problem; the dangers of charismatic leaders and how easy it is to buy into them. Tal intentionally played Percy as an ends-justifies-the-means sociopath and I'm pretty certain Tal himself would be the first to tell you no one should actually be following Percy or his advice.
Sam is in the middle. I am so confused.
*Throws a fireball* THATS WHERE MARISHA ALWAYS SITS, SAM GOD DAMN IT
Tal and Marisha were getting overly touchy feelie, would make even the most non jealous folk raise an eyebrow
+DAve eich nope. just you.
+Zoeevee Agreed, I doubt that is it.
maybe sam finally showed up early for once and didn't have to scoot in on the side haha
Percy: "I never forget that when I rule, I rule these people as well."
/Mic drop/ Seriously, though - THAT WAS SUCH AN AWESOME LINE
CalvinballAKA I was 100% on Percy’s side on that, but I understand how a sheltered Druid would want to avoid and not work with the shady, scary Clasp
Keep in mind that Keyleth is not lawful good, even though she plays it that way. I think she's neutral good. (Maybe some major pre-stream events changed her outlook. I don't know.)
@@dowingba - Meh, alignment should be descriptive, not prescriptive, imho. She is the alignment of what she plays, and not the other way around - that's more like the earlier editions of DnD, 5e is quite lax in these areas.
Still, I was on Percy's side, though I respect what Vax did, especially since it seemed this was his intention all along. What was annoying me was Keyleth trying to back him up in places where nothing should've been said, ruining his moments and the punchline, sometimes almost selfishly as if to dish out her own character traits. Sometimes I just can't stand her, even more than Tiberius in the earlier episodes.
.... and that's why Keileth is crap
Its moments like this one that make me roll my eyes at keyleth honestly lol. (Not marisha. Ik how sensitive people get towards keyleth. I dont hate marisha.) It always seems like she has her nose stuck up in the air as if she knows how the world works. Shes like those people who respond with "yeah well YOU KNOW HOW HORRIBLE MYYY DAY WAS" when they ask about your crappy day lol
“From the moment I’ve met her I’ve given her every dime I’ve made” yup they’re practically already married
Did Mercer pull the ultimate teacher move and separate Merisha and Taliesin cuz they're always laughing and joking around?
I think they said that Marisha moved once they decided Keyleth/Vax was going to be a thing so her and Liam could RP Vax and Keyleth better without having to talk across people
@@morganschall1521 Or maybe Taliesin was a bit low on hp and needed Sam to tank Marisha's right elbow for a while ? 😁
@@bishop6218 thats why they also separated marisha and liam in C2 it was because of the bruisings he got from her not the coronavirus pandemic 😂
I thought the same thing actually
Percy: "i'm not good at being the bearer of any 'bad news'..."
Percy...that's literally what your strongest weapon is called lol
The one that has a tendency to misfire. Often!
But yes, my thoughts went there as well!
@@Narokh As did mine!
Yeah Taliesin is amazing at subtle humor. Ngl I laughed when he said that and I don't think anyone else in set caught it
And nothing travels faster
@@MikeJones-ye6limarisha grinned and pointed at him
That moment when you realize Vasselheim's restriction on Arcane magic was a way to rein in Tiberius.
not necessarily considering there is a cannon distinction between arcane and divine magic. Plus there are tons of clerics there i doubt they restrict their magic and druids draw from the same pool.
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I mean... considering the late Sovereign’s sordid history with Arcane magicks, and that Vassalheim is literally the “Things keep trying to kill us but we’re still here because we kill them harder and take proper precautions” sort of town, Tiberius just happens to fall into both precepts of “Chromatic dragonborn? Ugh” and “Arcane caster? You keep that mess out of my bar, you hear?”
I mean, Scanlan and Keyleth both got in trouble the first time at the ring trying to manipulate the odds, it’s a fair thing to be highly skeptical of.
"We were saying the terribly injured, the people with the worst injuries"
"All right, those people first"
"Yeah, 'cause they'll go through real fast"
best quote of the night
All I'm seeing is "The Clasp didn't like that" during the meeting
[You have been vilified by the Clasp]
"The Clasp will remember that."
am I the only one starting to fear Matt's strange god ability to match in-game events to precise music changes? it's getting a little "phenomenal cosmic power" here ...
just in this ep, 2:49:53, that music downturn matched his subtle facial change when Percy started making his counter-offer O.O
Well he is the one changing the music.
but it wasn't a change in music track. it was an in-track composition shift. the music matched to suit HIM and the situation.
yeah he has said that he has all of his music separated by moods.
ugh, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the crescendos and dips and instrument changes INSIDE A SINGULAR SPECIFIC TRACK. NOT a track or mood change.
seriously, did you not go look/listen at the timestamp I put? Matt's NPC has got a teensy hint of a smirk on, and then the music does a dramatic downshift EXACTLY when Percy says "Well I will not promise that now. What I can promise right now ... " and the NPC's smirk vanishes and becomes unhappy.
Granted, Matt can hear the music and adjust his mannerisms accordingly, but the fact remains is that that SPECIFIC MOMENT IN THE TRACK just so happened to hit RIGHT when Percy makes that comment. That's not just "picking the mood music," that's bordering on composer-level "match the pace, tone, and movement of the music to the scene in the movie."
It's just coincidence. Much the same way you can cue up any music and a Kung-Fu movie and it will give the appearance of matching up. Or most albums and The Wizard of Oz
"We can't make a deal with them, they're thieves!" when they literally broke into someone's house a few episodes ago to steal stuff. Okay.
before this laura even said 'scoundrels' when they saw looters, just after breaking into that house. just bad.
They were acting in official capacity based on information that there might be something wrong in the house.
Technically they were performing a wellness check. And the owner was decidedly unwell.
Or, you know, when they murdered a group of people who were probably regular citizens less than 24 hours prior and proceeded to loot them.
So many old ladies!
The volume of moral inconsistency in this episode is astronomical
I love how all of their charities relate to their characters. Taliesin chose a charity that helps teens in tough situations, Percy was a teen in tough situations. Scanlan just found out he has a kid so Sam chose a pediatric organization. Keyleth is a druid, and Marisha chose an organization to conserve nature. Vax has been in a place he needed to leave before, so Liam is supporting space exploration so we can find new places to live. Vex had no one when she and Vax left their father, so now Laura is supporting a place for teens to get back on their feet. And Grog knows what it's like to be scared you're going to die in a strange and unfamiliar place, and of course he's a warrior, so Travis chose an organization that helps soldiers. Finally, Matt doesn't have a character, but he took his joy of creating a story that people love and chose a charity that shares stories for people who don't have it. I think this is just so profoundly beautiful :)
THIS.
i was looking for this comment and i’d like to add vax is an angsty pessimist nerd so he chose space bc the earth is dying 😅
some of that was kinda stretching a little bit
Sam should have adopted Red Dress Day, an organization supporting finding missing Native American females as an answer for Scanlan finding his daughter and wearing of a racially insensitive football team shirt. His continuous insensitive not jokes are old and not as funny as he thinks they are.
@@kaberry4539what are you even yapping about bro
Sometimes I'm impressed by how angry they can be at each other (IC), only to then turn jovial and friendly the next second (OOC). I kinda think it's because I play with a person that has difficulty separating himself from his character.
Stefani IsTheCutest It's a bunch pixels, my friend :) Just like your profile picture.
I know! One second you're thinking 'oh, they hate each other', but nope, they are just great at separating IC and OOC!
They are actors after all, it's what they do
David Bamatter True, but it's still impressive to someone who isn't an actor or voice actor :P
James A. That makes you the second person who has told me that.
"I have started from nothing, I can do it again!" bit of DM-sadness coming through after destroying his world.
Been there.
Done that.
Necessary, I let the game get out of control.
Still hurts after 30 years.
"Big girls don't scry" the response should have been "It's my party and I'll scry if I want to."
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Still the most underrated comment of this episode.
This comment just made me spit out my drink, coughing
The fact that Gilmore fought with thodak 1 on 1 and lived to tell the tale is crazy
Sam's reaction when Keyleth lets Vax into her room is *amazing*
Keyleth got deflowerd!!!!
@@jenny_of_oldstones3523 creepy
Liam's reaction to the Schindler comment was just the best.
sorry but i did not understand that comment. tried to find out but couldn't
Schindler was a company owner in the nazi times and saved many jews. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Schindler
@@lagggoat7170 Check out Schindler's List. Movie by Steven Spielberg with Liam Neeson. A very good black and white movie about him*. Slow, but very well done
Thanks but I´m german. I know of the movie, but I also know far to much about this history (getting confronted with it repeatedly in school and rl), so I won´t be recreationally watching something like that in addition. I know I wasn´t at fault (being born decades after, even my parents were born post-war), but there is a certain feeling of guilt and responsibility nontheless.
@@lagggoat7170 ..... well hope you and everyone else has a good day
Any time friendly fire hits Scanlan, I die laughing because Sam's reactions to it are priceless
"But I'm just a little man."
One of the best part os throwing the shade back at Vex haha 1:53:40
Sams face in reaction to Keyleth letting Vax in to her room was priceless. To be followed up by Taliesins comment of ships. Perfection.
10:54 - Part 1 begins
12:45 - Remembering Events
15:04 - Scanlan, Wordsmith
20:00 - Marked
23:22 - Percy's thoughts on Greed
24:10 - Grog's Plan for Scanlan
32:00 - Whispers
38:43 - Taliesin's Pun
45:08 - "You'll LOVE Whitestone!"
45:30 - Nice save Vex
47:05 - Scanlan's List
50:09 - Scanlan inspires Keyleth with a limerick
56:50 - Realm Seer (Idk how to spell the rest)
1:06:30 - Anti-magic missile
1:08:56 - Percy Wisdom
1:13:10 - I will fight you
1:27:59 - Scanlan sings a song at the enemy [based on U2 - I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For]
1:33:45 - Top Gun Debate
1:35:16 - Scanlan inspires Vax with a song [based on David Bowie - Ground Control to Major Tom]
1:40:05 - The Chickening
1:45:35 - Grog crits
1:50:35 - Cutting Flute
1:52:00 - A Close Call
1:58:02 - Scanlan sings to himself [based on Tubthumping (i get knocked down) by Chumbawamba]
2:00:40 - Keyleth Brings THE FIRE
2:14:29 - How Do You Want To Do This?
2:19:42 - Part 1 ends
2:19:48 - Part 2 begins
2:25:00 - More Backstory
2:31:10 - Vex's Limerick (Limerick read at 2:31:27)
2:53:49 - Percy's so freaking cool
3:08:20 - Vax Visits Keyleth
3:09:40 - Scanlan Tries His Luck
3:31:31 - Aldore! The sort-of love interest of Felcia Day's character
3:36:29 - Part 2 ends
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I never knew i cared so much about Gilmore till this episode
Same. I also discovered that Vax chose the wrong lover, imo. Keyleth seems too unsure to make a decision about Vax and stick with it.
Also I lost it and started crying when Gilmore opened his eyes, saw Vax there, and said, "I always assumed I would see you in my last moments."
@@carlyaskren359 Keyleth is the kind of lover you pick when you hate yourself and think you need to become a better person.
Gilmore is the kind of lover you pick once you know you're good enough.
I'm personally of the opinion that not allying with the Clasp was the right move, but I still think Percy argued his point way better than Keyleth or Vax did.
I really wish Keyleth and Vax would be more diplomatic like Percy tbh
>argued better than Keyleth
Wow stop the presses lmao
@@mingodingo 🤣
Agreed. Percy was being very eloquent, but he was completely ignoring the long term consequences it would've had - he'd have essentially given a gang of extortionists and human traffickers free reign over thousands of refugees. The Clasp would have been useful in the short term for providing infrastructure and resources, but they'd have also exploited their position, and their relationship with the refugees would have been entirely one sided and predatory. This in turn would have created dissent and polarisation in large swathes of the population, and thus undermined the legitimacy of the new Ruling Council.
The problem is that,instead of pointing these very real flaws out, Keyleth instead makes herself seem naive and arrogant. If she'd couched her opposition in language that Percival could grasp - long-term stability, political legitimacy, maintenance of law and order, etc - then she might have made more headway with him.
I always prefer to go with experience, rather than the lack of it. Keyleth has very little experience in most things, and literally zero with this particular situation and group of people, and therefore her plans should be disregarded in the face of others' that bear some. If she continues to try pushing her "naive but non-functional moral compass" attitude, simply shut her out of the discussion because her opinions aren't relevant to the situation.
i love scanlons face when percy calls keylith out on her ego.
"Crime is always with us. Therefore, if you're going to have crime, it at least should be organized crime."
"Ah, the Patrician himself. It is truly an honor" *bows low*
lawful evil >>>>>> chaotic evil
@@TheHighborn I disagree. Lawful evil at its worst are dictators that kill and impoversh millions. Chaotic evil at its worst is like a creepy serial killer. Lawful evil is worse by magnitudes.
@@Peter-hx3im tell that to Tharizdun.
@Ben Passlow Not what lawful means in D&D that is only a part of it. Remember you can be a thief and still be lawful good as long as you have a code of honor.
"Never been to whitestone. Is it cold?"
"Only in the winter"
"Its winter"
Even monty python is dying of laughter
It’s interesting coming back to campaign 1 after catching up to campaign 2 and seeing the differences between the parties. The Mighty Nein would have sided with the Clasp without a second thought
The way Percy and Scanlan's eyes almost fall out of their heads when Vax says he doesn't want to be alone :')
Look at Laura’s too
Game starts with a recap
10:54 - Part 1 begins
12:45 - Remembering Events
15:04 - Scanlan, Wordsmith
20:00 - Marked
23:22 - Percy's thoughts on Greed
24:10 - Grog's Plan for Scanlan
32:00 - Whispers
38:43 - Taliesin's Pun
45:08 - "You'll LOVE Whitestone!"
45:30 - Nice save Vex
47:05 - Scanlan's List
50:09 - Scanlan inspires Keyleth with a limerick
56:50 - Realm Seer (Idk how to spell the rest)
1:06:30 - Anti-magic missile
1:08:56 - Percy Wisdom
1:13:10 - I will fight you
1:27:59 - Scanlan sings a song at the enemy [based on U2 - I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For]
1:33:45 - Top Gun Debate
1:35:16 - Scanlan inspires Vax with a song [based on David Bowie - Ground Control to Major Tom]
1:40:05 - The Chickening
1:45:35 - Grog crits
1:50:35 - Cutting Flute
1:52:00 - A Close Call
1:58:02 - Scanlan sings to himself [based on Tubthumping (i get knocked down) by Chumbawamba]
2:00:40 - Keyleth Brings THE FIRE
2:14:29 - How Do You Want To Do This?
2:19:42 - Part 1 ends
2:19:48 - Part 2 begins
2:25:00 - More Backstory
2:31:10 - Vex's Limerick (Limerick read at 2:31:27)
2:53:49 - Percy's so freaking cool
3:08:20 - Vax Visits Keyleth
3:09:40 - Scanlan Tries His Luck
3:31:31 - Aldore! The sort-of love interest of Felcia Day's character
3:36:29 - Part 2 ends
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I mean that whole conversation about moving people out was gold. But when Sam made Schindler joke and Travis responded: “... and the room goes silent aaaand the mug comes up” I lost it.
Thorbir's terrible luck at cards might be my favorite thing in the episode. Amazing call back to the Wheaton curse.
i just realized that
Thirty seconds earlier, give or take, "Don't we know any good dragons?" Setting up for next week, no one wants to go talk to Lady Kima or her boss at the temple of the God of good, metallic, dragons.
And they make a deal and Kayleyth says "can we trust dragons? Are we making deals with dragons now? We're better than that!"
Flashbacks to Marisha saying, outside of RP, "Because the church never did anything bad, right?" while brazenly opposing any sort of trust in Lady Kima.
@@SomeUA-camTraveler god that was so annoying, Kima has done literally nothing bad to make them distrust her and marisha kept being shitty because she want's to be a condescending anti religious asshole in a world where you can worship real gods who are in fact good
@@joedatius Yeah, it can get pretty obnoxious dealing with edgelord athiest players in this game. Lawful Good is treated like Lawful Evil, Paladins are treated like the Spanish Inquisition... It's like "Dude, this person prayed to his god to heal you, and it gave him glowy hands that are literally closing your wounds right before your eyes. Quit assuming he's a child rapist."
If I'm ever DM-ing a game where a player treats any LG cleric/paladin/etc. with automatic spite and distrust, and they can't provide an in-character backstory reason for it, they're getting docked for metagaming.
@@SomeUA-camTraveler holy shit dude. You sound like an absolute horror dm. Wtf. Rule lawyering as hell.
Okay bet all your campaigns are super fun. /s
"Not the kind of ship I was hoping for. I don't think we can all fit on that ship." Percy kills me every episode!
matt's improv as random npcs is so great! "it is winter!"
Ok but how funny would it have been if they had gone through with an incredibly elaborate airship heist, only for it to immediately be shot down by dragon fire...
I think it would have been the best because it's such an obvious flaw in the plan. The party wouldn't even be able to say Matt was being unfair since Laura brought it up immediately when Taliesin pitched it.
@@mingodingo yeah but Scanlan has greater invisibility he could probably use it on the ship.
But on the other hand he could have Polymorphed the Mother Purple Worm, into like a chicken or something, and finished off scooping up the gold too.
Keyleth succeeds with enormous fire attack
Liam who will later play Caleb: “Gingers man.”
Plus the way he looks at her then...
"It's pronounced .jif" "I will fight you." I have NEVER felt Matt more than I did right then. Holy.
@@thedirtbagstash Before watching the episode i misread the original comment, and though Matt was pronouncing it with a soft "G". Glad i was incorrect on this. But my originally comment stands (albeit with a little tweaking): With the amount of words Matt pronounces so strangely, and incorrectly, it is surprising he got this one right.
I don't understand why it's supposed to be pronounced with a soft g. Graphic Isomething fsomethint. Gif. Graphic has a hard g. Can somebody explain?
@@BryanCarsonSammich3z like worship =warship
Honestly best way I tell people is to say gift now take off the T.
It's because the guy who invented the format thought it would be lulz if it sounded like the peanut butter
Wouldn't it be hilarious if all they need to do to kill Thordak would be lace a cow with poison and feed it to him.
Sadly it is not witcher (and it did not work even there). Thordak would just do - legendary resistance a.k.a. is resist because of f..k you. :D
Actually could work in a fashion. Would need to be some kind of spell based attack with a triggered effect used on at least 10-20 cows fed to the dragon. Symbol of Death; it can be triggered on a condition, lasts until triggered or dispelled, and still does half dmg (does 10d10 necrotic) on the auto-saves. I had a party use the strategy on an ancient white dragon and it was very effective. They cast the glyphs on the cows' stomachs using surgery then persuaded a kobold minion to "gift" the cows to its master so it could gain favor. The trigger was the party barbarian getting within the bite range of the dragon and BAM.. one sadly very short battle. I had to allow it for the creativity alone, it was honestly a work of genius on the part of the party barbarian. She spent most of the game eating poisonous berries due to a hilarious number of failed survival checks and RP'd it very well as "personal experience".
@@azarinevil True, good old "Today i have prepered THIS explosive rune!" joke could work. Sounds like something Scanlan would be able to do. :)
Kassuhday hi I’m one of those late catcher-uppers but leave out some blood mixed with alcohol and take him out sekhmet style
i love how this entire thread is from 2019 when the og comment is from two years ago
anyways imagine scanlan hiding inside the cow and gets eaten and fucks him up from the inside
A gush about Sam Reigal:
In his limerick around 50:00, he both makes fun of keyleth for her not so well thought out move, but does it in a way that makes her laugh about her mistake rather than feel guilty or foolish for it.
And not only this, in the context of their situation, he delivers an inside joke to Vox Machina, and Inspires the crowd of peasants to trust this young Druid, because she will help them pass through danger as though they were a fart.
Also the more gassy than fluid line was fire, that is all
"I like how we're sending them to the place with the orb of death."
"What'd you say?"
"You might be able to see your breath!"
"Right, Winter"
Can I just say that Taliesin's roleplaying is an absolute delight? His orator skills are leagues beyond everyone else's, except perhaps for Sam's. Wow.
Sam easily has a Charsima score of 18+
Talisan... he's not as high in Charsima, but he is clearly proficient and gets his prof bonus when he talks.
Idk he comes of a lil cringe at times, but I think I like him
Idk, I think Liam's far better at this than Sam
@@justadummy8076 I'm with you friend. I think Tal is just a weird dude, and I mean that in the best way possible, so sometimes it seems he's trying a little too hard. But when he has his roleplay and even combat moments they're so good imo that I can't help but love the dude anyway.
@@ThinkFunSolver i agree, though i love tal and his moments i notice he’s just an emo indoor kid trying to play a witty politician/nobility.
"Can we find a dragon to kill the dragons?"
"Metallic dragons don't get along with Chromatic".
"Do we know any metallic dragons?"
...Well this exchange just got hilarious in hindsight.
BigKlingy I can't wait to learn why you think this way
"Can we find a dragon to kill the dragon"... Tibs?
Tibs was chromatic
Jonathon Dzindzio but his family was metallic
I wish I didn’t know what this meant. I’m just at the point of this episode, but stupidly googled a character to just find out how it was spelled, and read a REALLY HUGE spoiler in the google summary text
I love seeing Mercer voice the characters of guests (and Pike!) because holy wow does he ever nail the voices. Its astounding.
You know you've succeeded as a GM when people debate in the comments about your world building.
I know this is a dead comment, but this is one of the things that impresses me so much about this show. The world feels just as real and alive as Westeros or Tamriel. Matt's fucking amazing
Matt's amazing, don't get me wrong, but nerds argue about literally everything.
I was 100% with Percy over the whole Clasp encounter. He was diplomatic and reasonable throughout, and as he said afterwards, they could have turned down the deal without making more enemies. Sheesh... Let the man skilled in diplomacy handle the negotiations, eh? He could have talked their way out of that if that was what the group agreed on, rather than it devolving into yet another problem.
And calling his morals and motivations into question constantly for having made a deal in the past to avenge his family is patently unfair. He was fighting against the smoke demon even while possessed, and asked them to watch his back. Even under it's influence, he did his best to remain accountable. He deserves more trust that he's being shown. Just because he's skilled in politics, doesn't mean he's not their friend or that he doesn't have the group and Emon's best interests at heart. He's got a set of skills that can be very useful if they'd just let him actually use them.
Well said I wholeheartedly agree.
Yes!!! God, I was SO MAD during that conversation. I had to turn it off. And I love these people and this show.
I have to completely agree with this. Percy really didn't deserve how he was treated in this, and it was painful to watch. Finally a situation where his political skill set could be really useful, and he was essentially thrown under the buss. Why bother going to the meeting at all if the others felt that way about the Clasp? Not going for the meeting would have caused a lot less damage then the way things worked out. I can understand if Vax wants to cut his ties with the Clasp, but this wasn't the time or the place for that. Percy was trying to build a bridge, for the good of the survivors, and Keyleth and the others decided to burn it down as he was working on it. I love them all, but it was sort of heartbreaking how they threw his past in his face.
Argh, can not agree more. I detest how moralistic they try to behave and deny any shady option out of some potential concerns just because they don't want to have it on their conscience. It's a game people, just roll with it and deal with the consequences, it's more fun this way! This sentiment mostly goes to Keyleth and the twins, the rest are fine.
@@Lomniko being moral is fine the problem is them being inconsistent with it, vex keeps acting like she is a good person but is just selfish and greedy all the time and vax is a spineless enabler.