Tom reminds me of a friend of mine. They asked my friend if he wanted to be the hospital ward manager. My friend said, "No". They replied, "You don't want to advance your career? You don't want the higher pay raise?" My friend replied, "No". A lot of the staff members were dumbfounded and couldn't believe what just happened... lol I've known plenty of people doing very basic work and are very happy and satisfied and don't want anything more. I've known plenty of people who are content and AREN'T seeking life purpose, adding value to society, chasing new projects, etc... They pay their bills, they pay their taxes, they are good civil citizens, what else are we to ask/shame of them??? I've known several people who has the SAME mundane daily routine for over 30yrs and are the most psychologically stable people around. Life is a Spectrum; There are the people who invents planes. There are the people who runs the business of airlines. There are the people who services these infrastructures... And then there are people who are simply passengers... There are even people who just are spectators, who simply just watch planes go by.
I find it funny when Tom periodically has to mention his channel is so big now, he can employ people. Then there's this little pause as if he is waiting for applause. His arrogance knows no bounds. And you can tell as time progresses, he is becoming more and more trapped within his own echo chamber.
Sounds like Ai is just auto propaganda machine. Auto propaganda machine with quantum power?!?! Is that what we’re talking about? Yeah scary. Grow zucchini
I was a product manager for AI at GE Software and make videos on how AI actually works and what is likely coming. The fields where AI was said to be far away from being capable like the creative fields are surprisingly and unfortunately the fields where AI has made the most progress in being “good enough” or even better. The New York Times fired half of its art staff because they want to use AI images. SAG had to negotiate with a strike to prevent studios from making taking pictures of actors and just using AI to duplicate them in films. It’s a very serious issue that people should take seriously and work to resolve quickly before it actually becomes widespread.
IMAGINE BEING IN COLLEGE , in debt past your eyeballs , and then … POOF ! No jobs except in certain manual labor positions that robotics hasn’t mastered yet …
@@Pippinlakewood The fact people think they are going to just give you money for doing nothing while they are openly referring to you as "useless eaters" and blaming your very existence for global warming at world forums need to wake up. These are the same people that gave you forced healthcare during 2020. YOU are the carbon they want to reduce, not preserve.
The moment anyone automates work, your pay goes down. The automation doesn't have to be in your industry. It could lower wages in another field, and newly unemployed workers can come compete in your industry, driving your pay down further.
@@Rocky1765 apparently u have no clue what role they play at any level small to big cap organizations… one of the key roles / positions to filter out dummies like u per say
LOVE EMAD! I am a nurse and heard another nurse talk about the struggles she and her husband are facing as they have an 4 year old son with autism. PLEASE PLEASE share your work. I know you keep saying in due time.
Right. I miss his old content and he's given into the click bait titles that he use to talk about 😩. And miss the amazing intros he use to have on the people he'd bring onto his show.
@@themightyquyn I know. No profit, no money. No money, no power. Power is only given to those who have something to offer. When the trade off becomes inbalanced , the people will always take back the power.
@russofam.1090 No he ment the poor or the ones below the rich will have nothing. The rich will have all the power and control. Those that can afford machines or ai androids will become the most important individuals or organizations in the world. They won't need the consumer if you have a robot army more skilled or just as skilled as a average person. We will be rendered useless. Money will exist but only for the rich. The rich will own the workforce literally. The robots will make the robots and follow the orders from their master's. The poor is just in the way.
The tone deafness in parts of this from Tom is astounding. From the need for suffering for life to be valuable.. to the idea of humanity seeking status and wanting more more more.. it's just not the case. The American dream isn't more more more.. it's a wife, kids, good food, a home, a car, holidays and activities for the family, hobby.. and being apart of society and your community.. ALL of those now cost money folks.. every single one! Emad is right, if AI and bring in abundance, people will absolutely be happier and have the mental capacity, resources and time to be more creative and add value to society in more creative ways...without slaving over a screen or in an office for 10-16 hours a day..5-7 days a week.. dreaming of the American dream to help you fall asleep at night!
We've used the artificial layer of our self identity that is our "job" as a narcissistic kind of Chesterton fence. Believing it gave us moral license to place ourselves within a hierarchy of superior / inferior. And if that layer is "unemployed" are we not devalued? Discarded, even? And that is supposed to hoover and compel us to take action to be ourselves as idealized by flying monkeys... who have forgotten that all this hard work was to be done such that we may be able to live and be better. But we got lost in the weeds since we didn't know any better than to use the narcissistic abuse cycle to set up practically every thing perceived and conceptualized as "good" as well as "bad". Now we've reached a precipice beyond which these jobs may literally no longer be necessary, which causes existential crises, indeed narcissistic injury, in everyone emotionally attached to the self superiority that they believe "having a job" genuinely grants them. And so narcissistic rage ensues in an attempt to force a reality in which "jobs" can be believed to place our self identities, once again, within a superiority hierarchy. Jobs that nearly all of us barely can tolerate, we assign ourselves a duty to occupy ourselves doing... for the sake of not causing narcissistic injury to those busy bees and the systems that require the buzzing of those bees... who genuinely believe themselves superior because they have a "job", who will feel compelled to devalue anyone who does not have a "job", are not sustainable if the work has been being done in earnest. That is, if you take generations and generations to do a job right, it'll eventually be a job well done. That we've used them to form an artificial and entirely narcissistic layer of our self-identity, is an unintended consequence of building a super tall Chesterton fence thinking it will never need to be disassembled. And so we end up with the healthcare system that believes it's so successful when it's the most profitable, and a system of justice that believes itself most successful with ever fuller and more profitable prisons, while criminality cannot be genuinely identified nor "fought" because genuinely successful crime fighting does not fill prison beds. Now what are all of those prison workers supposed to do for a "job"!? Holy... Shit
It COULD. But look at what companies do now with extra profits. They don’t hand them to the employees. THEY KEEP THEM. Or pay them to the CEOs. This is just a TASTE. You think it’s going to be better when the company owns the robots and AI 100% and can justify not paying anyone a cent ? Are you going to boycott food? Are you going to boycott ANYTHING? The answer is no. Your life will just spiral down and the wealthy will wall themselves off like they already do :)
I work in Hollywood animation. The vast majority of my peers continue to be hostile to the idea of Ai workflows. I am forging ahead against the tide of negativity edit: case in point - read the surrounding comments 🔼🔽
@@goodcat1982 haha u don’t know what u asking pal.. and yes it’s been up an running across the board. And i can’t wait how helpless y’all mofos gonna feel pretty soon 🤦♂️
Wow. I have benefited greatly from your excellence and excellent guests, Tom. It may be because it is so fresh, but this discussion with Emad is the best of the best. Thank you.
The scary question is; at what percentage of unemployment and for what length of time before most of the finger pointing has become mute and ubi is generally accepted and implemented. Lot of hard times ahead.
AI coming for our jobs isn't even a bad thing. Why the fuck do we have to work shitty jobs to live? that should be the question on everyone's lips. I don't wanna flip burgers, I don't wanna scan and bag products, hell I don't wanna clean my own house, I want to do something meaningful with my time, and I don't want to suffer financially if I choose to do that. I think that's what everyone wants at the end of the day.
Do you really think the elites will tolerate you loitering around all day consuming ressources if you end up useless to them ? I certainly don't. We'll end up in states of complete poverty (you'll own nothing and you'll be happy) or we'll have to be ridden of somehow.
@@ashhempsall9803 Pretty much lie down and wait for it, or spring into high alert for some sort of global disaster. Or alternatively just pretend it's going to be fine. Why not after all
@@ashhempsall9803I mean I'd have time to explore stuff, learn stuff, the next Einstein could be stuck in a dead end job right now cuz he had no time to learn, the wright brothers started perfecting flight machines cuz they could afford to experiment. Who knows who's being held back because of their need to work to survive.
1) Alignment is not possible.. 2) Legal majority by AI in the board room.. 3) Human Category removed 4) Infinite Duplication with infinite categorical matching These are existential threats..
We must fight for universal basic income. If these machines are going to replace the human workforce, the companies profiting off the displacement should be compelled to contribute to the quality of life. There must be a tax that is delivered to the citizens on a bi weekly or monthly basis just for being a citizen. No strings attached, no qualifiers and no eligibility requirements. If you file taxes or not. Only requirement should be citizenship. Wealthy people can opt out for a tax break.
For a man who has chosen not to have children himself, it's hypocritical to criticize others for potentially not having children because they pursue relationships with AI. Especially since those who are drawn to AI relationships often don't share his wealth or lifestyle.
Well, all of us who work with our hands who have been somewhat slighted for our career choices, may have the last laugh. Ai will only make the troubleshooting part of my job easier and faster, but not replace me.... true we might need less people doing what I do, but never none.
No they aren’t. People need challenges in order to be fulfilled. Set a goal. Successfully meet the goal.. and then repeat. There is nothing better than that.
@@HexicanMichellechallenges can exist and be fabricated even if all BASIC needs are met. We will still desire more and better than what we are given and what he have so I think that by itself will provide purpose
This guy Tom reminds me of a so-called friend Adam in my life that only cares about himself. Literally doesn't care about a single other human. He is probably the same man that will be happy to rid himself of other humans. I hate working hard ALL the time. That is extremely draining. I think he meant to say he loves working hard all the time to GET more resources for himself AT the expense of others. Men like this are extremely dangerous.
Yep. Agreed. Dude keeps talking about error correction. I used bard for a while for coding b4 it became Gemini. I never once clicked thumbs up good result. I often converted its responses and adapted it to my case, left it hanging with incomplete projects etc. Ai is not always getting feed back that it is correct. Dude also needs to check himself on self driving cars, his mind is living in a reality that is no way near here yet, but he thinks it is. But then we all love our own children and think they are the best in the world and often better than they are in reality.
The guest said audio will be more impactful than video. He then said he saw people deleted in real time. So, being able to determine when and where you can become invisible is less powerful than audio? HOLY MOLY!!!
While I appreciate your content, I have to be honest-the main reason I continue watching your show is more for the guests than anything else. Despite my continued subscription to your channel, I find the overwhelming number of ads, both from UA-cam and your own, quite frustrating. I understand that the ads at the start of an episode are out of your control, but the sheer volume of ads throughout the show, along with your own promotions, makes the experience less enjoyable. Nevertheless, I still tune in because of the quality of your guests, even if it’s in spite of all the ads.
About a hundred years ago, horses were employed extensively for transport, farming and in the military. After the introduction of motor vehicles, the need for horses reduced dramatically. Horses still exist, in fewer numbers, although they are mainly kept for recreational purposes. I wonder if perhaps the fate of people will have some similarities to the fate of horses.
Wow, the promise of the AI revolution!!!!!!!! We will be rendered as useful as horses kept as pets!!!!! Unless of course you are a mover and shaker in the AI revolution.
If there is a lack of "problems to solve to make people happy" then there's an opportunity to engineer problems to solve, which is what makes people happy playing games. Maybe we're already in a simulation doing exactly that.
Theory: Artisan guilds will make a comeback, and will be joined by artist guilds. Industrialized things will be bought by the majority, but the wealthy will buy human made things, sustaining a number of creative skilled workers for their own benefit.
One of the leading tech giants and half of what he says is impossible to understand with whatever muddy microphone/system he's using. Can't wait for this crap to be embedded in our physical bodies. Geesh! Also, our AI future is easy to predict. Our overlords aren't going to pay us to sit around gaming. The overwhelming number of humans will be eliminated as the "useless eaters" they are. They'll keep just enough workers around to keep the AI machines going. The rest of us are done for (and that includes Tom, our politicians and lots of others that think their money will keep them safe in the oncoming hellscape). Sorry, but that's what is going to happen.
1) Alignment is not possible.. 2) legal majority by AI.. 3) Human Category removed.. 4) infinite Duplication with infinite categorical matching Existential threats..
I have read on how AI will possibly remove a lot of programming tasks and even wipe out many coding positions, and to me it is quite obvious that it will. 1) How the whole robotics and AI is built upon coding, will reach the level of programming and becoming so much more advanced in the future it is capable to program itself. 2) It will make the levels of programming jobs drop significantly, from a company needing let's say, 100 programmers, now they only need 1. The level of software and programming jobs will be so competitive for highly experienced developers to feed the input in terms of regulations and ethical considerations for the AI, and that's why the developers role will change. I hear so many mixed opinions on how it will not change the job market for software developers. The coding dynamic will change. It will not be just about fixing bugs, and programmers should know this. The AI will be so advanced and skilled it will learn to improve itself in a constant manner. For many job markets, companies will now only need 1 social robotic AI to do the same job but for 100s or 1000s humans. Why would that not be the same for developers I question.
If we could live anywhere and not confined to large cities to survive, would the world still be over populated? Would there still be a resource shortage?
The rise in job automation is coinciding with the ongoing strike actions, both highlighting society's struggle with fast-paced tech integration and economic inequality.
If we had gold backed money with 100% reserve banking, as AI machines slowly start to produce all products and services, you would see the cost to buy those goods and services approach 0..... you'd get to the point where working 1 hour per day and pushing a single button would be considered a hard day of work... Unfortunately, we have a central bank controlled fiat money system, and all the things described above are impossible, and we head straight into a dystopian nightmare.
Embodied AI production capacity will not just depend on the number of robots, but level of compatible modularity and coordination between parts and functions.
Bro i used to be a big fan of this channel i dont have notifications for any youtuber except this channel and every time i click it’s a negative thumbnail,(you will be replaced,dead, your family hates you,) i know you want to attract us to watch but trust me it’s effective the first time you do it, later i as a viewer lose trust in you , and the problem is you dont read comments & do what people want. Love you man but ill have to unsubscribe ❤ all love though.
@@MatthewCleere well being one already I welcome the learning curve. Probably hire some ex techie for $15 an hour and build an empire. You arrogance is amusing g.
Imad mentions the rapid replacement of jobs, "truck drivers in America... maybe 10 years." The timeline for such changes could have a massive social impact.
There will simply be different jobs and/or different taxation schemes. Governments operate on taxes earned from working people and corporations. If companies choose to replace people and that leads to higher unemployment without new job prospects then the government will raise corporate taxes to accommodate the need for funding to provide services to the population. If large numbers of people are displaced, they will support the governments and parties that offer to protect them.
Different jobs for a few percent of people with the very highest skills (and for an additional few that have to be manually - e.g hairdressers). The rest will be done be AI and robots
@@fragebogenvbc So, from whom do governments collect their taxes to deliver services if almost nobody is employed and making an income? If people are not employed, who is able to pay for the goods and services provided by all these corporations that have outsourced the jobs to AI and maybe even robots?
You don't seem to understand the current money power paradigm at least in the US where the likelihood of increased taxes on large corporations is effectively zero.
@@flickwtchr If you assume that I don't understand, you are assuming that you have the only possible answer which is never a safe assumption. Corporations and governments both need people to have disposable income in order to fund their operation. If large numbers of people are out of a job, that will impact the income of both types of organizations. The corporations cannot get more money from individuals without money, but the government can go after corporations when the population supports the government efforts.
Imagine your business competitor gets a voice recording of you and is able to clone your voice, then proceeds to call your family members and loved ones and harass them in your voice to make them think that you are abusive towards them. All sorts of havoc in your personal life, which prevents you from competing as well against them
Cryptographic signatures. Make one, use it, and get others in the habit of verifying you. The solution to the identity crisis element already exists. It simply must be adopted.
We should get rid of this idea of taking what someone said at face value. There should really be stronger evidence than mere audio recordings. The courts are the problem, they will have to adapt to be even more strict with this idea of due diligence. Only because some woman said something it shouldn't be enough for anyone to believe it without evidence, this is insanity. Evidence will have to be RAW data captured by a camera, all cameras should put a signature to attest the thing was real.
The discussion about deep fakes affecting democracy reminds me of Black Mirror's episode 'The Waldo Moment,' where a digital character influences politics to unsettling degrees. This highlights real fears of digital manipulation.
Tom asked: "Eric Schmidt said that he thinks AI will disempower the state and so somewhere like China is probably more likely to be afraid of it. Do you think that AI disempowers the state or emboldens the state to manipulate and control their constituency?" I would add this: AI will disempower the very idea of the state, provided the state does not use its powers to control the direction of AI toward totalitarianism. The single largest danger with AI is letting the state control it. I think state control of AI is the most likely scenario to lead us to a dystopian future. I think liberated AI, particularly open-source AI, is most likely to lead us toward a more pleasant future. Largely, this will depend on how fearful humans are of AI, and how much that fear drives them to allow government control of AI.
Exactly what I posted and shared about 18 months ago... Majority of work we know on the landscape today will likely not need humans to do it within 24-36 months. The AI Age is likely to render majority of the faculties filled with students today null and void - let alone the current generation of kids in an industrial age education system. Essentially, if AI does the work we used to in majority of sectors/industries what happens with the people displaced? What becomes their new purpose and fulfillment?
I've only gotten 53 minutes into your exchange with Emad. My opinion is that your question about outcomes is its own answer. A leader in the particular field of learning or implementation for that matter has to have enough of an IQ to discern whether a model can achieve his or her objectives. The model is a tool, no matter how sophisticated or powerful. When it has capabilities beyond which someone born and developed in this century can handle, then outcomes (for humans) will become irrelevant.
Philosopher John Locke would stress the importance of maintaining individual freedom and democracy in the face of AI advances, urging us to ensure technology amplifies rather than stifles our intrinsic rights and pursuit of happiness.
Maybe AI can "gamefy" the Amish lifestyle. People can LARP as the Amish, where you literally toil in the fields, build your own barns, churn your own butter, etc. AI will tell you how to do it, but it won't do it for you. You wear those new Meta glasses, and they assist you in how to do all the chores so that you can actually stay alive by your own labor. This is essentially what the Amish are already doing. They can join the English at any time if they want, and some do..., but they derive meaning and purpose from adding value to their community.
How about people learning what Logic Fallacies are? You won't need AI to tell you what is a false argument. We would encourage people to learn the Trivium which is Grammar, Logic, and Rhetoric. Grammar - the parts of an idea. Logic - how the ideas are put together or broken down. Rhetoric - the idea or subject put together. You can take Rhetoric and filter it with Logical Fallacies to arrive at the Grammar or parts.
I sense that your limbic system is being prompted to acknowledge what we label as 'evil.' But remember, evil is only recognized as such because it exists in contrast to its opposite.
I'd much rather have the choice of "breaking things out of boredom" than being impoverished and not being able to have the things I need to survive. I'm so sick of rich people saying people need meaning. Meaning can come after abundance.
What if being "jacked in" like the borg just feels like going to sleep at night and having dreams? And then you can un-jack in the morning and live your "individual" life? Like why would your body even need to physically move about the world while jacked in if embodied robots can be your "arms" and "legs"?
except one major nit: if you're watching both this podcast and his wife's podcast, you'll realise they are dragging people into increased conflict, not all episodes are worth watching
When will we get Agents capable of taking over a piece of software on my PC and actioning my requests? For example, I want to build a AAA RPG game on Unreal Engine. When will I be able to take on the role of game designer, and I just tell my Agents to build all aspects of the game?
Wish the AI was good enough to tell that there was never any intent, I went to the internet high when I relapsed and it ruined my life. These people aren’t saving anyone they are punishing me for something I didn’t know I did and something I didn’t know existed.
One things AI cannot come up with is ideas. It can get the input for the idea And write a blueprint, but as humans that's where we will thrive and find a purpose is when we come up with different ideas and have AI assist on making that a reality
Tom can't accept that most people in the world can easily be happy without being stressed out all the time 😂
Tom reminds me of a friend of mine.
They asked my friend if he wanted to be the hospital ward manager.
My friend said, "No".
They replied, "You don't want to advance your career? You don't want the higher pay raise?"
My friend replied, "No".
A lot of the staff members were dumbfounded and couldn't believe what just happened... lol
I've known plenty of people doing very basic work and are very happy and satisfied and don't want anything more.
I've known plenty of people who are content and AREN'T seeking life purpose, adding value to society, chasing new projects, etc... They pay their bills, they pay their taxes, they are good civil citizens, what else are we to ask/shame of them???
I've known several people who has the SAME mundane daily routine for over 30yrs and are the most psychologically stable people around.
Life is a Spectrum; There are the people who invents planes. There are the people who runs the business of airlines. There are the people who services these infrastructures... And then there are people who are simply passengers... There are even people who just are spectators, who simply just watch planes go by.
I find it funny when Tom periodically has to mention his channel is so big now, he can employ people. Then there's this little pause as if he is waiting for applause. His arrogance knows no bounds. And you can tell as time progresses, he is becoming more and more trapped within his own echo chamber.
Sounds like Ai is just auto propaganda machine. Auto propaganda machine with quantum power?!?! Is that what we’re talking about? Yeah scary. Grow zucchini
I was a product manager for AI at GE Software and make videos on how AI actually works and what is likely coming. The fields where AI was said to be far away from being capable like the creative fields are surprisingly and unfortunately the fields where AI has made the most progress in being “good enough” or even better. The New York Times fired half of its art staff because they want to use AI images. SAG had to negotiate with a strike to prevent studios from making taking pictures of actors and just using AI to duplicate them in films. It’s a very serious issue that people should take seriously and work to resolve quickly before it actually becomes widespread.
IMAGINE BEING IN COLLEGE , in debt past your eyeballs , and then … POOF ! No jobs except in certain manual labor positions that robotics hasn’t mastered yet …
If there’s no jobs for a large chunk of the population there would be ubi aka universal stimulus check
You shoulda just stopped with "imagine being in college".
Thanks sj
@@Pippinlakewood The fact people think they are going to just give you money for doing nothing while they are openly referring to you as "useless eaters" and blaming your very existence for global warming at world forums need to wake up. These are the same people that gave you forced healthcare during 2020. YOU are the carbon they want to reduce, not preserve.
Sadly this is coming. So fast that there are no measures to slow it down. PAY OFF YOUR DEBTS ASAP!!!
The moment anyone automates work, your pay goes down.
The automation doesn't have to be in your industry.
It could lower wages in another field, and newly unemployed workers can come compete in your industry, driving your pay down further.
True, but it also makes goods cheaper. People used to have two or three change of clothes, now we have a huge abundance.
Not many of us realize that.👍👍
yup
Not just automation, but people willing to undercut the host populations pay rates. That's the more immediate issue.
prices go down too
Replace HR!!!
The most overpaid and laziest worker in any corporation.
it is like saying replace CEO
Somehow we need hr to recruite
@@beryalex1798 Likely to happen for most companies.
@@sanjaycse9608no one to recruit soon. Humans won't be needed. 😅
@@Rocky1765 apparently u have no clue what role they play at any level small to big cap organizations… one of the key roles / positions to filter out dummies like u per say
LOVE EMAD! I am a nurse and heard another nurse talk about the struggles she and her husband are facing as they have an 4 year old son with autism. PLEASE PLEASE share your work. I know you keep saying in due time.
Too may ads.
Maybe AI will help you to create better thumbnails and titles, because these apocalyptic names of your videos really got boring now.
Right. I miss his old content and he's given into the click bait titles that he use to talk about 😩. And miss the amazing intros he use to have on the people he'd bring onto his show.
These days youtube videos add more anxiety to the real life. Evey next video I click says "The End" or "The end is here" or "Dark Furtue" etc...
@@2290961 typical content to demotivate to demotivate normal and feed conpirologists … for him it’s better traffic
Good stuff. Keep doing videos like this. There’s tons of cope out there. People need to face reality and plan.
This is simple. The less people employed, the less need for good and services. Replace people with robots, profits will be destroyed in the long run.
Unless robots become consumers
It's not about profit. It's about power.
@@themightyquyn I know.
No profit, no money. No money, no power. Power is only given to those who have something to offer. When the trade off becomes inbalanced , the people will always take back the power.
@russofam.1090 No he ment the poor or the ones below the rich will have nothing. The rich will have all the power and control. Those that can afford machines or ai androids will become the most important individuals or organizations in the world. They won't need the consumer if you have a robot army more skilled or just as skilled as a average person. We will be rendered useless. Money will exist but only for the rich. The rich will own the workforce literally. The robots will make the robots and follow the orders from their master's. The poor is just in the way.
Excellent analysis
Thanks fellas, great chat.
The tone deafness in parts of this from Tom is astounding. From the need for suffering for life to be valuable.. to the idea of humanity seeking status and wanting more more more.. it's just not the case. The American dream isn't more more more.. it's a wife, kids, good food, a home, a car, holidays and activities for the family, hobby.. and being apart of society and your community.. ALL of those now cost money folks.. every single one! Emad is right, if AI and bring in abundance, people will absolutely be happier and have the mental capacity, resources and time to be more creative and add value to society in more creative ways...without slaving over a screen or in an office for 10-16 hours a day..5-7 days a week.. dreaming of the American dream to help you fall asleep at night!
We've used the artificial layer of our self identity that is our "job" as a narcissistic kind of Chesterton fence. Believing it gave us moral license to place ourselves within a hierarchy of superior / inferior. And if that layer is "unemployed" are we not devalued? Discarded, even? And that is supposed to hoover and compel us to take action to be ourselves as idealized by flying monkeys... who have forgotten that all this hard work was to be done such that we may be able to live and be better.
But we got lost in the weeds since we didn't know any better than to use the narcissistic abuse cycle to set up practically every thing perceived and conceptualized as "good" as well as "bad".
Now we've reached a precipice beyond which these jobs may literally no longer be necessary, which causes existential crises, indeed narcissistic injury, in everyone emotionally attached to the self superiority that they believe "having a job" genuinely grants them.
And so narcissistic rage ensues in an attempt to force a reality in which "jobs" can be believed to place our self identities, once again, within a superiority hierarchy. Jobs that nearly all of us barely can tolerate, we assign ourselves a duty to occupy ourselves doing... for the sake of not causing narcissistic injury to those busy bees and the systems that require the buzzing of those bees... who genuinely believe themselves superior because they have a "job", who will feel compelled to devalue anyone who does not have a "job", are not sustainable if the work has been being done in earnest. That is, if you take generations and generations to do a job right, it'll eventually be a job well done.
That we've used them to form an artificial and entirely narcissistic layer of our self-identity, is an unintended consequence of building a super tall Chesterton fence thinking it will never need to be disassembled.
And so we end up with the healthcare system that believes it's so successful when it's the most profitable, and a system of justice that believes itself most successful with ever fuller and more profitable prisons, while criminality cannot be genuinely identified nor "fought" because genuinely successful crime fighting does not fill prison beds. Now what are all of those prison workers supposed to do for a "job"!?
Holy... Shit
The whole culture is obsessed with scale.
It COULD. But look at what companies do now with extra profits. They don’t hand them to the employees. THEY KEEP THEM. Or pay them to the CEOs.
This is just a TASTE.
You think it’s going to be better when the company owns the robots and AI 100% and can justify not paying anyone a cent ?
Are you going to boycott food?
Are you going to boycott ANYTHING?
The answer is no. Your life will just spiral down and the wealthy will wall themselves off like they already do :)
@@jasonreed1352the top half of your last paragraph says it all.
Priorities are all jacked up :(
Very arrogant statement from you homogenising what drives a population.
I work in Hollywood animation. The vast majority of my peers continue to be hostile to the idea of Ai workflows. I am forging ahead against the tide of negativity
edit: case in point - read the surrounding comments 🔼🔽
Use it to your advantage. Get ahead of the people who refuse to adapt
Just remember that the thing doesn't think, its just automation.
Yep, turning your nose up at AI now is like refusing to learn CG animation in the 90s.
Big whoop ur against AI workflows. That means zero, your still gonna get replaced by something cheaper.
Tom's thumbnail changed to fear, doom and gloom inducing click bait. That is disrespectful to the longstanding fans of this podcast.
SEO...required for platform ratings. Still frustrating for original viewers.
The podcast is a pseudo intellectual hype haven now.
@@MB-hz7wm the algo angle is a cop out.
He should just do a Mr. Beast thumbnail instead
So don't watch it?
I can't wait until AI replaces call centres!!!! BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!
Already happening
@@goodcat1982 haha u don’t know what u asking pal.. and yes it’s been up an running across the board. And i can’t wait how helpless y’all mofos gonna feel pretty soon 🤦♂️
I hope AI replaces this podcast
lol 😂
😂😂😂😂@@janiemiller825
This is an AI podcast
Will happen sooner than you think
@@flyingfox3766 I say 5-6 years.
Thanks for another insightful talk Emad and Tom! Good to see you looking happier and healthier Emad.
I aped into Wurmp! The community vibes are amazing, and I’m thrilled to be part of it!
Wow. I have benefited greatly from your excellence and excellent guests, Tom. It may be because it is so fresh, but this discussion with Emad is the best of the best. Thank you.
Went from AI to America being in a civil war in less than 15 mins in.
😮
big tech works for the democrats or something, they have a bias
10 min
Tom's kind of into that whole idea now that he's been meddling into "dark web" pseudo-intellectualism.
@@flickwtchr Tom has lost all intellectual ability. He's definitely bought and paid for by someone. Probably Peter Thiel.
The scary question is; at what percentage of unemployment and for what length of time before most of the finger pointing has become mute and ubi is generally accepted and implemented. Lot of hard times ahead.
AI coming for our jobs isn't even a bad thing. Why the fuck do we have to work shitty jobs to live? that should be the question on everyone's lips. I don't wanna flip burgers, I don't wanna scan and bag products, hell I don't wanna clean my own house, I want to do something meaningful with my time, and I don't want to suffer financially if I choose to do that. I think that's what everyone wants at the end of the day.
So, what exactly is it that you would do? 🐈⬛ Asking for a friend, the friend being you🙏🏼
Do you really think the elites will tolerate you loitering around all day consuming ressources if you end up useless to them ?
I certainly don't.
We'll end up in states of complete poverty (you'll own nothing and you'll be happy) or we'll have to be ridden of somehow.
@@ashhempsall9803 Pretty much lie down and wait for it, or spring into high alert for some sort of global disaster.
Or alternatively just pretend it's going to be fine. Why not after all
All the cool places will be so crowded
@@ashhempsall9803I mean I'd have time to explore stuff, learn stuff, the next Einstein could be stuck in a dead end job right now cuz he had no time to learn, the wright brothers started perfecting flight machines cuz they could afford to experiment. Who knows who's being held back because of their need to work to survive.
1) Alignment is not possible..
2) Legal majority by AI in the board room..
3) Human Category removed
4) Infinite Duplication with infinite categorical matching
These are existential threats..
We must fight for universal basic income. If these machines are going to replace the human workforce, the companies profiting off the displacement should be compelled to contribute to the quality of life. There must be a tax that is delivered to the citizens on a bi weekly or monthly basis just for being a citizen. No strings attached, no qualifiers and no eligibility requirements. If you file taxes or not. Only requirement should be citizenship. Wealthy people can opt out for a tax break.
No, wealthy people should not be able to get another fucking tax break. The 1% generally pay an effective tax rate below what a plumber pays.
For a man who has chosen not to have children himself, it's hypocritical to criticize others for potentially not having children because they pursue relationships with AI. Especially since those who are drawn to AI relationships often don't share his wealth or lifestyle.
finally a good AI guest
Informative!! A.I Functional Awareness and perceived prediction!! Good show 👍 Tom X Emad
Well, all of us who work with our hands who have been somewhat slighted for our career choices, may have the last laugh. Ai will only make the troubleshooting part of my job easier and faster, but not replace me.... true we might need less people doing what I do, but never none.
Eventually we will all get replaced.
Tom might not be happy unless he is improving. However, most people are happy as long as their basic needs are filled.
No they aren’t. People need challenges in order to be fulfilled. Set a goal. Successfully meet the goal.. and then repeat. There is nothing better than that.
@@HexicanMichelle It’s the need to dominate. Watch a documentary about primates … and see the power dynamics. People are primates
In the end it's all about those creampies. ❤️
@@HexicanMichellechallenges can exist and be fabricated even if all BASIC needs are met. We will still desire more and better than what we are given and what he have so I think that by itself will provide purpose
@@HexicanMichelle It’s an opinion and ours differ. I formed this opinion from observation.
Tom's long-winded questions are exhausting.
I'd love to hear more from this guest.
This guy Tom reminds me of a so-called friend Adam in my life that only cares about himself. Literally doesn't care about a single other human. He is probably the same man that will be happy to rid himself of other humans. I hate working hard ALL the time. That is extremely draining. I think he meant to say he loves working hard all the time to GET more resources for himself AT the expense of others. Men like this are extremely dangerous.
These a.i. guys are so disconnected from the lives and psyche of the wider population- it will be our greatest and final error
The issue is that ai understands you. You are disconnected from yourself.
Yep. Agreed. Dude keeps talking about error correction.
I used bard for a while for coding b4 it became Gemini.
I never once clicked thumbs up good result. I often converted its responses and adapted it to my case, left it hanging with incomplete projects etc.
Ai is not always getting feed back that it is correct.
Dude also needs to check himself on self driving cars, his mind is living in a reality that is no way near here yet, but he thinks it is.
But then we all love our own children and think they are the best in the world and often better than they are in reality.
Always Love to hear what Emad has to say a true visionary and I look forward to his updated white paper !
The guest said audio will be more impactful than video. He then said he saw people deleted in real time. So, being able to determine when and where you can become invisible is less powerful than audio? HOLY MOLY!!!
While I appreciate your content, I have to be honest-the main reason I continue watching your show is more for the guests than anything else. Despite my continued subscription to your channel, I find the overwhelming number of ads, both from UA-cam and your own, quite frustrating. I understand that the ads at the start of an episode are out of your control, but the sheer volume of ads throughout the show, along with your own promotions, makes the experience less enjoyable. Nevertheless, I still tune in because of the quality of your guests, even if it’s in spite of all the ads.
Dude, het youtube premium, it's fucking great. (If us watch a shit ton of toutube like i do)
Yup, totally worth it@@murc111
What ad?
Brave Browser?
Revanced
About a hundred years ago, horses were employed extensively for transport, farming and in the military.
After the introduction of motor vehicles, the need for horses reduced dramatically.
Horses still exist, in fewer numbers, although they are mainly kept for recreational purposes.
I wonder if perhaps the fate of people will have some similarities to the fate of horses.
Wow, the promise of the AI revolution!!!!!!!! We will be rendered as useful as horses kept as pets!!!!! Unless of course you are a mover and shaker in the AI revolution.
@@flickwtchr yes, I expect some will do well out of it
Computers help incels to not breed.
This is a good thing.
Progress could also be found in sports, games, human to human actvities and other stuff where Ai won't ever be able to replace us
I can see knowing a skill like cooking or massage therapy, counseling .. people want real humans for that and always will
If there is a lack of "problems to solve to make people happy" then there's an opportunity to engineer problems to solve, which is what makes people happy playing games. Maybe we're already in a simulation doing exactly that.
Makes sense
Theory: Artisan guilds will make a comeback, and will be joined by artist guilds. Industrialized things will be bought by the majority, but the wealthy will buy human made things, sustaining a number of creative skilled workers for their own benefit.
How quaint, the 1% in their gated Utopia will still throw some crumbs to the talented little artisan people competing to stay housed and fed.
One of the leading tech giants and half of what he says is impossible to understand with whatever muddy microphone/system he's using. Can't wait for this crap to be embedded in our physical bodies. Geesh!
Also, our AI future is easy to predict. Our overlords aren't going to pay us to sit around gaming. The overwhelming number of humans will be eliminated as the "useless eaters" they are. They'll keep just enough workers around to keep the AI machines going. The rest of us are done for (and that includes Tom, our politicians and lots of others that think their money will keep them safe in the oncoming hellscape). Sorry, but that's what is going to happen.
This yes! within 10 years 😊 OpenAl is crowdfunding our doom........
@@maskedweird0329 brain-computer interfaces such as neuralink are a must if we want peaceful coexistence
@@erkinalp So you actually believe the malarky that Musk has been pushing.
Loved every second. Thank you. ❤
1) Alignment is not possible..
2) legal majority by AI..
3) Human Category removed..
4) infinite Duplication with infinite categorical matching
Existential threats..
I have read on how AI will possibly remove a lot of programming tasks and even wipe out many coding positions, and to me it is quite obvious that it will. 1) How the whole robotics and AI is built upon coding, will reach the level of programming and becoming so much more advanced in the future it is capable to program itself. 2) It will make the levels of programming jobs drop significantly, from a company needing let's say, 100 programmers, now they only need 1.
The level of software and programming jobs will be so competitive for highly experienced developers to feed the input in terms of regulations and ethical considerations for the AI, and that's why the developers role will change. I hear so many mixed opinions on how it will not change the job market for software developers. The coding dynamic will change. It will not be just about fixing bugs, and programmers should know this. The AI will be so advanced and skilled it will learn to improve itself in a constant manner. For many job markets, companies will now only need 1 social robotic AI to do the same job but for 100s or 1000s humans. Why would that not be the same for developers I question.
The assessment of smart vs knowledgable @ 37:00 is _so_ true! And perheps the most importent difference between human thinking and AI (bar feelings).
What do you think will happen to multifamily real estate after AGI? What does ownership even mean anymore?
If we could live anywhere and not confined to large cities to survive, would the world still be over populated? Would there still be a resource shortage?
The rise in job automation is coinciding with the ongoing strike actions, both highlighting society's struggle with fast-paced tech integration and economic inequality.
Watching Emad listen to Tom drone on is super entertaining.
If we had gold backed money with 100% reserve banking, as AI machines slowly start to produce all products and services, you would see the cost to buy those goods and services approach 0..... you'd get to the point where working 1 hour per day and pushing a single button would be considered a hard day of work... Unfortunately, we have a central bank controlled fiat money system, and all the things described above are impossible, and we head straight into a dystopian nightmare.
That says a ton that almost everybody says their IQ is above average. smh.
Thank you for this amazing podcast content…keep them coming!
Super interesting. Especially towards the ending, it was so good
Embodied AI production capacity will not just depend on the number of robots, but level of compatible modularity and coordination between parts and functions.
Bro i used to be a big fan of this channel i dont have notifications for any youtuber except this channel and every time i click it’s a negative thumbnail,(you will be replaced,dead, your family hates you,) i know you want to attract us to watch but trust me it’s effective the first time you do it, later i as a viewer lose trust in you , and the problem is you dont read comments & do what people want.
Love you man but ill have to unsubscribe ❤ all love though.
Learn a trade
Be a while before AI can fix a toilet with a broken wax seal on a single wide trailer.
Yeah so many channels I'm subbed to are going down this click bate garbage path. I get why they do it, but it sucks
@@johnroberts5457 good luck competing with the thousands of new plumbers who had the same idea
@@MatthewCleere well being one already
I welcome the learning curve.
Probably hire some ex techie for $15 an hour and build an empire.
You arrogance is amusing g.
Great info. Bad audio :(
This is really a great podcast because it gets into weeds about what really gonna happen not what they tell you
This is the last place you should be going for info on “what is really gonna happen”
Great discussion
Imad mentions the rapid replacement of jobs, "truck drivers in America... maybe 10 years." The timeline for such changes could have a massive social impact.
Less people working = less people eating. companies shouldn't erode its consumer base.
There will simply be different jobs and/or different taxation schemes. Governments operate on taxes earned from working people and corporations. If companies choose to replace people and that leads to higher unemployment without new job prospects then the government will raise corporate taxes to accommodate the need for funding to provide services to the population. If large numbers of people are displaced, they will support the governments and parties that offer to protect them.
Different jobs for a few percent of people with the very highest skills (and for an additional few that have to be manually - e.g hairdressers). The rest will be done be AI and robots
@@fragebogenvbc So, from whom do governments collect their taxes to deliver services if almost nobody is employed and making an income? If people are not employed, who is able to pay for the goods and services provided by all these corporations that have outsourced the jobs to AI and maybe even robots?
@@tetrahedralone exatcly
You don't seem to understand the current money power paradigm at least in the US where the likelihood of increased taxes on large corporations is effectively zero.
@@flickwtchr If you assume that I don't understand, you are assuming that you have the only possible answer which is never a safe assumption. Corporations and governments both need people to have disposable income in order to fund their operation. If large numbers of people are out of a job, that will impact the income of both types of organizations. The corporations cannot get more money from individuals without money, but the government can go after corporations when the population supports the government efforts.
Imagine your business competitor gets a voice recording of you and is able to clone your voice, then proceeds to call your family members and loved ones and harass them in your voice to make them think that you are abusive towards them. All sorts of havoc in your personal life, which prevents you from competing as well against them
Cryptographic signatures. Make one, use it, and get others in the habit of verifying you. The solution to the identity crisis element already exists. It simply must be adopted.
We should get rid of this idea of taking what someone said at face value. There should really be stronger evidence than mere audio recordings. The courts are the problem, they will have to adapt to be even more strict with this idea of due diligence.
Only because some woman said something it shouldn't be enough for anyone to believe it without evidence, this is insanity.
Evidence will have to be RAW data captured by a camera, all cameras should put a signature to attest the thing was real.
Don’t pick up the phone
You need to show recording dates, since i don't trust your release dates any more
Ikr... especially when it involves Ai
The discussion about deep fakes affecting democracy reminds me of Black Mirror's episode 'The Waldo Moment,' where a digital character influences politics to unsettling degrees. This highlights real fears of digital manipulation.
Has black mirror still ended due to the world being dystopian enough now lmao
Tom asked: "Eric Schmidt said that he thinks AI will disempower the state and so somewhere like China is probably more likely to be afraid of it. Do you think that AI disempowers the state or emboldens the state to manipulate and control their constituency?"
I would add this: AI will disempower the very idea of the state, provided the state does not use its powers to control the direction of AI toward totalitarianism. The single largest danger with AI is letting the state control it. I think state control of AI is the most likely scenario to lead us to a dystopian future. I think liberated AI, particularly open-source AI, is most likely to lead us toward a more pleasant future. Largely, this will depend on how fearful humans are of AI, and how much that fear drives them to allow government control of AI.
Amazing gentleman Emad Mosque, I wish he could lead the world
Exactly what I posted and shared about 18 months ago... Majority of work we know on the landscape today will likely not need humans to do it within 24-36 months.
The AI Age is likely to render majority of the faculties filled with students today null and void - let alone the current generation of kids in an industrial age education system.
Essentially, if AI does the work we used to in majority of sectors/industries what happens with the people displaced? What becomes their new purpose and fulfillment?
Very informative. Thank you both!
Tom, you need to do an interview with Brian Roemmele. He has all the AI info you're digging for
I've only gotten 53 minutes into your exchange with Emad. My opinion is that your question about outcomes is its own answer. A leader in the particular field of learning or implementation for that matter has to have enough of an IQ to discern whether a model can achieve his or her objectives. The model is a tool, no matter how sophisticated or powerful. When it has capabilities beyond which someone born and developed in this century can handle, then outcomes (for humans) will become irrelevant.
I saw Emad Nd knew i was in for a ride
Philosopher John Locke would stress the importance of maintaining individual freedom and democracy in the face of AI advances, urging us to ensure technology amplifies rather than stifles our intrinsic rights and pursuit of happiness.
All of us would. You don't need a philosopher to realize that.
Maybe AI can "gamefy" the Amish lifestyle. People can LARP as the Amish, where you literally toil in the fields, build your own barns, churn your own butter, etc. AI will tell you how to do it, but it won't do it for you. You wear those new Meta glasses, and they assist you in how to do all the chores so that you can actually stay alive by your own labor. This is essentially what the Amish are already doing. They can join the English at any time if they want, and some do..., but they derive meaning and purpose from adding value to their community.
Knowledge supports growth.
How about people learning what Logic Fallacies are? You won't need AI to tell you what is a false argument. We would encourage people to learn the Trivium which is Grammar, Logic, and Rhetoric. Grammar - the parts of an idea. Logic - how the ideas are put together or broken down. Rhetoric - the idea or subject put together. You can take Rhetoric and filter it with Logical Fallacies to arrive at the Grammar or parts.
I sense that your limbic system is being prompted to acknowledge what we label as 'evil.' But remember, evil is only recognized as such because it exists in contrast to its opposite.
The convergence of AI, crypto, and robotics will be the singularity.
Bro lives on the internet -"you can't notice the difference beween humans and ai" 😂
You need to leave your room my guy!
This was very interesting to listen to while drinking water.
I'd much rather have the choice of "breaking things out of boredom" than being impoverished and not being able to have the things I need to survive. I'm so sick of rich people saying people need meaning. Meaning can come after abundance.
The irony is you are believing the snake oil of rich people saying abundance for the little people is coming because of the AI revolution. It isn't.
Great interview
Little Tommy finally learning something. Good.
If Tommy is little, you must be a fly spec on an ameba in comparison.
What if being "jacked in" like the borg just feels like going to sleep at night and having dreams? And then you can un-jack in the morning and live your "individual" life? Like why would your body even need to physically move about the world while jacked in if embodied robots can be your "arms" and "legs"?
I hope AGI figures out to put time stamps on this video.
😂
This is really a great podcast because it gets into weeds about what really gonna happen not what they tell you
Yes, that what I like - an attempt to guess how things might happen, and all the impacts. not just jumping to a future state.
except one major nit: if you're watching both this podcast and his wife's podcast, you'll realise they are dragging people into increased conflict, not all episodes are worth watching
@@erkinalp He's been going off the right wing deep end lately.
His statement about SB-1047 is patently wrong. Wish you had called that out.
So many flaws. This ‘visionary’ is a pawn. A joke. So many lies in this fake Commy podcast.
The more I learn about Wurmp, the more I’m convinced it’s a hidden gem!
When will we get Agents capable of taking over a piece of software on my PC and actioning my requests? For example, I want to build a AAA RPG game on Unreal Engine. When will I be able to take on the role of game designer, and I just tell my Agents to build all aspects of the game?
It’s being tested now in our commercials, right? You can see it but the elderly can’t, but that’s always kind of been the story.
Great episode! Tom, could you please invite Michael Saylor, Arthur Hayes, Ray Dalio again? Thank you!
Destruction is the conclusion.
Decentralized AI models will be critical for nations to maintain sovereignty; reliance on a few centralized AI hubs may lead to geopolitical tensions.
The absurdity that a super intelligence will willingly join the workforce.
Thanks for not losing Occam's Razor in the AI revolutionary madness.
Timestamps help longer videos.
Very interesting but poor sound quality from Emad makes it difficult to follow.
Wish the AI was good enough to tell that there was never any intent, I went to the internet high when I relapsed and it ruined my life. These people aren’t saving anyone they are punishing me for something I didn’t know I did and something I didn’t know existed.
The amount of ads in this video is absolutely absurd.
It sounds like a Twilight Zone episode where Burgess Meredith played a librarian and he was told by the State " Your job is obsolete. "
Nice talk.
Timestamps please!
I’m ready for an AI boyfriend
I can be fake . .
Ha ha ha . .
Not really . .
Great comment though
WALL-E future coming soon
One things AI cannot come up with is ideas. It can get the input for the idea And write a blueprint, but as humans that's where we will thrive and find a purpose is when we come up with different ideas and have AI assist on making that a reality