GHEENOE REBUILD - Where To Start?
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- This is the first of a video series to try and help people who want to renovate/restore an old gheenoe. My gheenoe is a 1984 classic that was on its way to the dump. The only thing that was good was the bottom fiberglass and part of the transom. This was a 6 month project and very labor intensive to do. It was well worth the time though. I learned all of this from youtube and the internet. I hope this helps you get started on your own redo.
IN THIS VIDEO - We talk about things to think about before redoing a boat. We talk about core materials, fiberglass, and resin.
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Enjoy your video series,just started on my Gheenoe tonight, thanks for the inspiration!
Thank you! I’m excited for you! I hope it goes well.
For not being a boat builder, you did a heck of a good job congrats. I'm starting a new project on a 98, 15.4. Very helpful video thx
Thank you so much! I am really proud of it. I hope the videos help. If you think about it let me know how yours turns out!!! Thank you for watching!
Oh man. Love it!!!
Thank you! Me too!!! It took a lot of work but it has been so amazing!!!!
Great info and the boat turned out really nice. I started a Gheenoe restore a couple years ago, dragging out the process way too long. Thanks for sharing.
You can do it! Stick with it! It was one of the best things I ever did. Being out on the water is amazing. I’m never going to not have a boat again. Thank you for watching!
Awesome job! I restored my WaterBug, a copy of the Gheenoe. The WaterBugs had a double layer of fiberglass compared to the Gheenoes. Heavier and stronger back in the late 80’s and early 90’s.
Thank you! I was looking at the water bug! I like how it has a bigger stern than the 80’s gheenoe. I bet the extra layer of fiberglass made it a lot hardier than the gheenoe too? I felt like if I didn’t put extra support in there it might fold up on me! Thank you for watching!!!
Love the video very informative 👌
Thank you! I love my boat, it was my first step to self made freedom!
Thanks for the videos. Well done. How did you mount the rod holders without penetrating the exterior wall?
Thank you! I hope they help. I ended up adding a layer of foam and glass to the walls for stability, otherwise they just kind of flapped in the breeze. So I used small screws and 5200 marine glue. It worked great!!!!
I like the foam you used. I’m looking around for it now. How much did you end up using? Looks like it comes in 4x8 sheets, correct. Thanks for the response.
@mikedantoni3470 I can’t remember how many I used. But I over measured the decks I wanted and then used graph paper to figure out how many I needed.
I’m about to start my project of a 1989 13’ gheenoe. Any suggestions or recommendations would be great! This is my first rebuild. Do you suggest filling holes with bondo and sanding smooth before you put a full new layer of fiberglass?
I definitely recommend filling in holes or cutting out/redoing section before you put a full new layer on. Those older ones definitely need a gut job. The wood gets so soaked and rotten. What are you thinking of doing with the inside? When I took the rails off of mine I found bad cracks and waves I had to cut out and redo before I could put a new layer on.
I haven’t even gotten into mine just finishing up a 12’ aluminum and trailer rebuild. Do you have a discord? Would love to ask you questions and pick your brain.
I don’t have a discord but I do have instagram or Facebook messenger.
I added you on Facebook thanks!
Thank you for letting me know! I will except!
Love these videos - Subscribed! Question, what thickness foam did you use? I live in FL and found the supplier but they offer both 1/2 and 3/4. Thanks
Thank you for subscribing!!! Because I used a lot of reinforcement and was fiberglassing both sides I went with the 1/2 inch. They recommended to have a support every 2 feet but I didn’t go more than a foot without some kind of a support point. Plus, I’m chunky but I’m not big enough to put a bow in the 1/2 inch after both sides had a coat of 1708 on them. They ended up being ridiculously stable…. I had a hatch blow off and it was run over by a school bus and i was still able to stand on it (tested it for fun and was impressed). Let me know if you have any other questions. What kind of boat are you redoing!?
@@DesOnTheFly thank you so much! I’m debating on PVC or the stuff you used for my skiff. I’m 220 so the foam does scare me a little haha but it’s so much cheaper than 3/4
I would use 3/4, or do an extra layer of 1708…. But that gets so expensive. Were you thinking of starboard?
@@DesOnTheFly at my local Home Depot, they sell 1/2 thick, 4x8 sheets for $99 each. Might go that route as it’s is super strong, 1/2” thick and won’t require additional resin. Thanks to your videos, I started to explore other options than just wood.
Good! If you think about it let me know how it turned out!
Great vid Des ! You did a fantastic job restoring that boat ! How is it for fly fishing, stable ?
Thank you!!!! Yeah! It is still a tippy canoe, but I stand on the front, or the cooler in the back and fly fish off of it a lot! I also stand on the back with someone on the front fishing. It is great! Thank you for watching!
@@DesOnTheFly another question. Where did you source the foam ? I’m in Titusville so a trip to Tampa isn’t out of the question. I also heard of a supplier in JAX, Merritt ( I think ) that carries the board.
Hahahaha! I actually drove really close to you! Here is the link.
fiberglassflorida.com/air-cell-t-60-6lb-green-foam-2709.html
@@DesOnTheFly Thanks ! And wow, they are close!! Like 30 minutes close !!
Yeah!!!! That’s why I thought it was so funny. I drove over there to get all my foam.
How much epoxy, fiberglass, and H60 did you go through?
About 3 gallons of epoxy, about 30feet of fiberglass and 1.5 full sheets of h60. I fiberglassed both sides of the h60 to keep it strong. What are you redoing?
I'm struggling to find out how much resin I'll need for my project. I'm doing front and rear casting decks on my highsider. How much did u use?
Also thank u for this video. Not much detailed info on gheenoe restoration here. Helps a ton 🤙🤙
Hey! Thanks for watching! I think I ended up using 4 gallons for the majority of the project. 2 for the bottom and 2 for the top. The 1708 ends up sucking up a lot of resin. Don’t forget to check out pro marine epoxy. It is half the price of total boat, just don’t use table top epoxy. It gets weird at hotter temps. promarinesupplies.com/521-marine-grade-epoxy-resin/?sku=521GKF&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0umSBhDrARIsAH7FCofpiNfhSnxOcd9B3tlcYYphDBDOPxagVJLDEb3LFo_iPiBmr68GIe0aAl_UEALw_wcB
@@DesOnTheFly I'll check em out. I'm glad there's a cheaper alternative. Seeing it being 140 bucks a gallon was kinda painful
Yeah it is!!! If you are doing both decks you may want to get one gallon and see how far you get. It takes a chunk out of your wallet if you are trying to go low budget. What kind of fiberglass are you going to use?
@@DesOnTheFly I'm planing on using an epoxy resin and 6 or 10 oz cloth. (Multiple layers obviously) I'm also using 2 layers of quarter inch hardwood plywood. As the base. Up here in Ms., There are 0 distributors of marine grade or composite boards
Yeah, that sucks! It costs more to ship the foam than it does to buy it! I would start with one gallon and see how much your fiberglass soaks up. Are you putting anything on the plywood before you put your fabric on?
Yours was worse than mine was, and is, again. Mine is a river hawk 17'. I use Bondo fiberglass jelly to patch holes and then Bondo fiberglass resin with the cloth. Pretty close to what you did. The rivers here in north Georgia have rocks and rapids so I'm going to coat the bottom of my hull with rhino liner this time. I like what you did to yours. I might put more layers on mine first.
Up here you gotta go upstream and fight currents. Anything less than 15hp won't make it.
When you can make it, though, I can guide you on a hell of a ghenoo trip once I finish my boat. Our watershed comes out in mobile, AL. That's downstream.
Your channel got recommended at random by the way. That's how I wound up here.
Besides that I've been trying to figure out a way to make a convertible top that converts into a set of sails as well. I've got an outrigger system designed too. I'm going major on mine this time. It's set up to tow the outrigger canoe. Coleman with the floaters.
Excellent videos you have. Thank You.
Awesome!!! Yeah, the oysters get my boat and I will need to do some love patches here in the next couple of years just to keep up maintenance. I bet you do need a 15hp upstream! I’m going to upgrade now that I feel more comfortable with the boat. A 4hp is just a little small. I would love to keep in touch and see Georgia. Rhino liner will work well. I love the airboat coating on mine. It really helps! What do you mainly fish for?
@@DesOnTheFly That would normally be a simple question except our local government won a lawsuit against watershed PFA violators very recently. In the upper watersheds you can go for trout or other small fish. Crayfish traps increase your chances of success. I wouldn't keep or eat any catfish. Any tipe of chicken wing sized fish should be ok to eat other than that.
In the middle watershed small striped bass is what you want to get for food. The pollution complicates things. I'm trying to re-figure it out again myself.
Thing is you pass through towns here going upstream. There's islands in the middle of nowhere and there's supply stores next to bridges the whole way. In Rome you can get anywhere you need to go by river in town. It's a different scenario. Yes it's addictive 😎
@@DesOnTheFly For my second answer, I like the adventure. I stealth camp here and there. I only fish for food if I need it. You ain't got time to stop much if you're gonna make it upstream camping.
What I do is get to the camp and go to dollar general and get sandwich meat first thing and hide it among stock in the freezer. Then I set up camp and buy it frozen the next day.
There's not many safe fish catch eat places at the moment. Even our tap water is contaminated along with well water.
Please do keep in touch. I like you.
@@DesOnTheFly I'm not sure if anything I said made sense or not. You mentioned a coating that I'm not familiar with as well.
It made sense, I don't get to stealth camp a lot but I primitive camp as much as I can. I fish for fun, but I love eating my catches. But Red tide, and water pollution down here make it really hard too.
I didn't even think of doing that with lunch meat before you buy it! I'm so doing that!!!
The bottom stuff I put on is called super slick. Here is a link to it, just remember if you trailer your boat and you go around a corner without it strapped the boat is going the other way...
fascoepoxies.com/Fasco-9xn-2000-Super-Slick-Epoxy-Bottom-Coating.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqs6lBhCxARIsAG8YcDhbLhY2ismOjhK8VHeFbAbBM2pQ4dDEDoDgZ3G5jtg2tigoTlualv0aAmYBEALw_wcB
You cannot gel coat over epoxy but epoxy is one of the most water resistant resins
It’s awesome isn’t it!? Thank you for watching!!
@@DesOnTheFly I'm going to start my build soon hopefully however I'm not a fan of epoxy resin I will most likely use polyester
Let me know how it turns out. Are you doing the entire boat or sections? I couldn’t lay 15.5 feet of poly in the Florida heat and expected to make it look nice.
@@DesOnTheFly haven't exactly decided I'm planning on building a front and rear deck like your build and a false floor in the middle
I’m excited for you. It makes it awesome!!!