South Africa🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦 vs Nigeria🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬...The long awaited comparison..

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  • @NEMESIS_10
    @NEMESIS_10 11 місяців тому +367

    As a South African, from the bottom of our hearts. We have no desire to lead the continent. We have even less desire to be "The Giants" of Africa.

    • @triston9618
      @triston9618 11 місяців тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂I really where they get that idea that we SAns want to lead the continent😂😂😂😂😂I have seen this type of videos from Nigerians😂😂😂😂my God, they need to go on and lead if that's whT they want, we as South Africans really don't cate😏😒🙄

    • @ndalisoxozwa3279
      @ndalisoxozwa3279 11 місяців тому +76

      Giants are scary 😂😂😂 our interest is a world without Apartheid, religious bigotry, and access to opportunities that can make humanity better.... And we have our million problems and errors in judgements.... Give the tittle and the throne to Nigeria or Somalia its one and the same for us we will still be loyal to Mzantsism.

    • @nzuzomthembu5000
      @nzuzomthembu5000 11 місяців тому +73

      😂 we honestly don't have no desire to be Giants of Africa 🇿🇦

    • @noxzienocturnal4544
      @noxzienocturnal4544 11 місяців тому +62

      Danko! They don't get that we don't want that. Nigeria can have at it. 😪

    • @honordiamond2548
      @honordiamond2548 11 місяців тому +33

      I totally Agree.... no desire at all. Why even compare🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️!

  • @nzuzomthembu5000
    @nzuzomthembu5000 11 місяців тому +242

    As a South African🇿🇦 i honestly don't care about being the giant of Africa. We just want a good quality of life

    • @goergetobias7206
      @goergetobias7206 11 місяців тому +13

      Lol thanks you south Africans for putting noisemaker in there place.Why are they dying in Mediterranean if they are that good .Empty wagon

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  10 місяців тому +1

      It's about aeadership role and not just the title. I hope you've considered that

    • @lebogangmoeketsi1614
      @lebogangmoeketsi1614 10 місяців тому +10

      As south africans we don't about being giant of Africa. Nigeria can win the title because they are obsessed of being giant Africa. We just want to left alone.

    • @sharonanthonique1255
      @sharonanthonique1255 10 місяців тому +3

      Leadership are you serious. Instead of focusing on how we can create wealth or job opportunities for ourselves we are always focused on the wrong issues that’s why these fights are useless including ghana

    • @limpopoRiver
      @limpopoRiver 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@@toontumnetworkwe dont want that title, being called giant doesn't mean your a good leader or smarter than others.....Nigeria can keep that title it serves no purpose in south africa and for south africans. We want stability, economy that represent the majority of people, road to be build, hospitals, schools, universities, basic needs covered, water and electricity, jobs, business opportunities......we dont care for a title that has no impact in ordinary lives of south africans

  • @Nothingbuttruth2024
    @Nothingbuttruth2024 11 місяців тому +159

    To be honest as south africans we don't compare or measure ourselves against any African country because our focus is taking Africa to another level of development. But what I see is seeing and hearing how Nigerians always comparing themselves to us. We don't care about this thing of being giant of Africa that Nigerians are obsessed with. For us it's nothing really we do our thing.

    • @priceelesslove8846
      @priceelesslove8846 11 місяців тому +17

      Nigeria never compare themselves to south Africa, Nigeria call themselves giant of Africa because of its large population. The speaker doing the comparison is Ghana, not Nigeria.

    • @priceelesslove8846
      @priceelesslove8846 11 місяців тому +11

      Nigeria has never compare themselves as more develop than Nigeria, they can compare with music, movies. They have never claim to be more developed. I don't know why fellow Africans like dragging Nigerians .

    • @Bishop_Six
      @Bishop_Six 11 місяців тому +6

      Bro d poster is not even Nigerian

    • @dorrtay
      @dorrtay 11 місяців тому

      Are you mad? This man right here is a Ghanaian. Nigerians don't compare with any nation. We focus on ourselves. Fool!

    • @lozi4163
      @lozi4163 11 місяців тому

      @@priceelesslove8846 Stop it, there are many videos we see on youtube and tik tok were Nigerians do this kind of comparison come on now

  • @afrikaazanialuti
    @afrikaazanialuti 11 місяців тому +229

    South Africans don't care for these rankings, most of us just want a good quality of life. Access to education, quality healthcare, & functional infrastructure are all key socio economic indicators that deserve our attention, not for global recognition, but for our citizens.

    • @hopes9451
      @hopes9451 11 місяців тому

      They are soo obsessed with being called number 1, and great giant , and yet they had decades to prove themselves and compete with the rest of the world while we were in slavery 20or so years back. This is so tiring, why don't they just compete with Ghana, Rwanda etc, and leave us alone!😂. We could be called just an ant in Africa, we are good!.

    • @taharka3897
      @taharka3897 11 місяців тому +9

      You don't care. You do not speak for everyone. I am not nigerian, but this I will say that they own 95% of their economy. I am talking about black own. I don't have to say who owns the economy in SA.

    • @afrikaazanialuti
      @afrikaazanialuti 11 місяців тому +24

      @@taharka3897 that's wonderful! 👍🏾

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +5

      Got it thanks for sharing

    • @KagisoConfident
      @KagisoConfident 11 місяців тому

      ​@@taharka3897that's so awesome ❤

  • @violetralebipi8194
    @violetralebipi8194 11 місяців тому +127

    South Africans we don't compare or even care about what people say about our Country, we just love it and very much protective of South Africa

    • @THE_MILLENNIAL_AFRICAN
      @THE_MILLENNIAL_AFRICAN 11 місяців тому

      So much so that you have to state it the exact same way, all of you 😂😂
      Your jealousy and hatred is blatant and I’m sorry for you.

    • @tundebakare6887
      @tundebakare6887 11 місяців тому

      ​@@THE_MILLENNIAL_AFRICANfact 💯

    • @Jeffreylaughs
      @Jeffreylaughs 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@THE_MILLENNIAL_AFRICAN it's kwaii lol we don't care

    • @village-Dreamer
      @village-Dreamer 11 місяців тому +1

      Love SA 🇿🇦 🇰🇪

    • @kasiphilosopher7489
      @kasiphilosopher7489 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@@THE_MILLENNIAL_AFRICAN. Its Not hatred! We don't care about being a giant of Afrika because we know we are a great Nation already! Therefore when you are great and recognized internationally there is no need to go around bragging and boasting! We are just Patriotic and we want to be left alone! Period!

  • @namra4462
    @namra4462 11 місяців тому +244

    A Namibian here, in my opinion I have never heard South Africans compare themselves to any other African country but I hear a lot of Nigerians coming for South Africa. That being said if we are forced to choose just based of behaviour alone i would say let Nigeria lead west African countries and us Southern African countries will keep South Africa. I mean look at the shameful behaviour of the Nigerian government towards other west African countries when Europe and US attack other African countries, didn't ECOWAS under Nigeria come against a fellow African country that wanted to gain their freedom? Who will they lead? How they lead?
    Meanwhile South Africa has done it's best to always defend and help not only it's neighbouring countries but also other African countries for example in Libya and recently in Ethiopia.
    Edit: note that since this video is mostly assessing the CURRENT events on the continent as indicators of a leading country , my comment above also focuses on the current situation in how the two countries relate to other African countries.
    Can Nigerians honestly say that Nigeria as it is can lead Africa?

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +27

      i think you are fair in your submission. thanks and hope you've subscribed...i'll need more of such inputs

    • @triston9618
      @triston9618 11 місяців тому

      Thank you, and we really don't compare ourselves to anybody, we are too busy trying to solve our ish.....in our country. Nigerians they like to make this type of videos comparing themselves to us🙄🙄🙄. It is tiring seriously if they want to lead Africa they can go on😂😂😂😂😂nobody cares, us South Africans we are still worried about out internal affairs we need to lead ourselves properly b4 we go to the whole continent. My goodness Nigerians do on be the giants you always call yourselves as 😂😂😂😂😂we don't care.

    • @tsholofelomocumi4207
      @tsholofelomocumi4207 11 місяців тому +22

      Very true, thanks

    • @AfriPrincess411
      @AfriPrincess411 11 місяців тому +28

      The Nigerian senate vetoed sending any army to Niger so you are wrong. Lets not act like southern African countries dont mistreat each other. Nigeria 🇳🇬 has also been instrumental in helping countless other countries in Africa such as peacekeeping during the Liberian Civil War and South Africa apartheid to name a few. But of course yall ignore this

    • @lozi4163
      @lozi4163 11 місяців тому +58

      @@AfriPrincess411 Point is, No African nation has done for Africa what SA has done and continue to do unless if you don't do research but ofcorse Nigeria has done some good historically but it has that history of fighting other countries for western interest as well.

  • @tshidiso9653
    @tshidiso9653 11 місяців тому +153

    As a South African🇿🇦, majority of South African don't even have an interest on Nigeria as a country. South Africans just want to leave in their own country in peace and compete globally.

    • @AshMckay123
      @AshMckay123 11 місяців тому +27

      If Nigeria can just keep us out of there mouths we'll b so thankful.

    • @Mkym365
      @Mkym365 11 місяців тому +7

      The truth is the Vast majority of Nigerians don’t think about South Africans like you may assume, Nigerians aRe pan Africanist and consider all Our African brothers & sisters YES. However, our focus is competing with the rest of the World 🌎

    • @Chief_Commander_MBE
      @Chief_Commander_MBE 11 місяців тому +5

      @@AshMckay123 the guy doing the video is a Ghanaian which Nigeria give shit about South Africa?

    • @valentineisraelshabangu4069
      @valentineisraelshabangu4069 11 місяців тому +15

      ​@@Mkym365thus a lie why are there so much Nigerians in South Africa

    • @Mkym365
      @Mkym365 11 місяців тому

      @@valentineisraelshabangu4069 there aRe I’ve 230 million+ plus Nigerians living in Nigeria 🇳🇬

  • @Lulu-wv1nt
    @Lulu-wv1nt 11 місяців тому +80

    We South Africans just want our country tp work for us.
    Nigeria can keep being self proclaimed giants.
    We 🇿🇦 are good.✌

    • @emmalineandbrian1202
      @emmalineandbrian1202 11 місяців тому

      You can never be giants of Africa with xenophobic lifestyle, you think we black Africans you killed and chased away from your country allow you to lead us, you don’t want giant, you people are calling Africans to join you in the fight against the west.

    • @rapulemathibr3221
      @rapulemathibr3221 11 місяців тому +7

      Giants dat flock n force to stay in other countries n dey dnt Wana leave

    • @emmalineandbrian1202
      @emmalineandbrian1202 11 місяців тому

      @@rapulemathibr3221 Nigeria left your country e mass, you looters said we were the ones doing crime in your country, but now the crime rate in South Africa has tripled, are you sure you people are not the criminals, afterwards you were looting Nigerians businesses and killing black people in your country, President of xenophobia, how has Nigerians flocking your country affected you, we have so many countries in Nigeria we are not complaining, lazy people like South Africans will always complain about people taking their jobs, do you even have a job to give Nigeria’s, we do business, open our business from scratch, we don’t work in your poor company, how much can you pay Nigerians to work for South Africa. If we come to your country we come has doctors, engineers, lecturers, professors, which we know that black South Africans are too lazy to acquire

    • @EricKgetshepe
      @EricKgetshepe 11 місяців тому

      That's is problems they must go back to Nigeria and sell drugs Lagos not here.

    • @lonnabolonwabo8162
      @lonnabolonwabo8162 10 місяців тому +3

      Giant of drugs

  • @zakhelezwide1911
    @zakhelezwide1911 11 місяців тому +50

    As South Africans we do not want to lead the continent, we want to feed our children and make life easy for all South Africans. We are not interested in these competitions, we believe a win for Africa is a Win for all Africans.

    • @kevinemmanuel8525
      @kevinemmanuel8525 11 місяців тому

      This is a lie SA has every intention to lead africa. Only thing in her way "Nigeria"

    • @zakhelezwide1911
      @zakhelezwide1911 11 місяців тому +9

      @@kevinemmanuel8525 you are out of your mind.

    • @Mytightis2tight
      @Mytightis2tight 11 місяців тому

      @@kevinemmanuel8525 your problem is your currency, it has gone into free fall again, automatically becoming smaller than that of SouthA. You are now number 2 without SA even lifting a finger. Stop comparing yourselves to us. It is not healthy, we both know that the only area you guys beat us is in being 1) the West's prostitute, 2) producing fake pastors and witch doctors 3) producing 419 scammers

    • @nkazimulondlovu8056
      @nkazimulondlovu8056 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@@kevinemmanuel8525 no youre just intimidated by SA 😂

    • @tundebakare6887
      @tundebakare6887 11 місяців тому

      ​@@nkazimulondlovu8056no you're intimidated by Nigerians,the guy you're responding to is a SAns like you

  • @jaybee6967
    @jaybee6967 11 місяців тому +56

    Honestly, South Africans will tell you that we are the MOST critical of our government😅 We're too busy trying to solve the issues to take notice of global standings... There is still sooo much to improve

    • @goergetobias7206
      @goergetobias7206 11 місяців тому +7

      Every corner all over the world you will find them in ghettos. Have never had south Africans saying their country is develop in entire Africa I do see it. South African currency got much value in entire Africa.Nigeria learn to humble youself and develop your country not leaving to do cleaning jobs in foreign land

    • @emmalineandbrian1202
      @emmalineandbrian1202 11 місяців тому

      @@goergetobias7206Listen to this Lazy xenophobia person, if Nigeria is cleaning is it not better than robbing people like South Africans does.

  • @blackdynastyrsa658
    @blackdynastyrsa658 11 місяців тому +87

    The only competition for South Africa is the man in the mirror. We are our biggest competition, not Nigeria. We are working towards being the best version of ourselves.

    • @kevinemmanuel8525
      @kevinemmanuel8525 11 місяців тому

      This is a lie

    • @nkazimulondlovu8056
      @nkazimulondlovu8056 11 місяців тому +26

      ​@@kevinemmanuel8525its truth ...youll never find South africans making these videos

    • @emmalineandbrian1202
      @emmalineandbrian1202 11 місяців тому +4

      The video is not necessary, this Ghana people love hitting Nigeria head with other Countries, why can’t he compare his country Ghana with South Africa, moreover South Africa is known to have killed so many black Africans, so how can they lead the same people you are doing xenophobia with, leaders live with examples.

    • @nkazimulondlovu8056
      @nkazimulondlovu8056 11 місяців тому +3

      @@emmalineandbrian1202 Nigeria is definetely not leading by example though ...claiming to put Africa on the map by getting banned ...theyre just only good in music but in serious influence thryre not there

    • @tundebakare6887
      @tundebakare6887 11 місяців тому

      ​@@nkazimulondlovu8056did you know the roles we've played on the African continent, kindly go and do your research

  • @thestrongsignal
    @thestrongsignal 11 місяців тому +119

    I am a Ghanaian. It is very disrespectful to compare Nigeria to SA. South Africa is the giant of Africa

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +4

      Your comment is similar to Nigerians comments when you compare Nigeria with Ghana

    • @thestrongsignal
      @thestrongsignal 11 місяців тому +14

      @@toontumnetwork Ghana beats Nigeria in so many aspect so it makes sense to compare them however it will be surprising to compare SA and Ghana. The only thing they boast as a country is land size and population. Sometimes i find it weird when u make your analysis and include "population" to determine if a country is doing better or not. Singapore is just 6 million population but better than all the African countries combined.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +5

      @@thestrongsignal population is always a key aspect of a nations dynamic. If you've studied history you'll find out it has always taken nations with large population more time to attain development. Thanks for your input

    • @animalfunfacts247
      @animalfunfacts247 11 місяців тому

      My humble take on this is that, while ordinary people of Nigeria are doing their utmost to better themselves, the government is not doing enough, infact they are like the spanner in the wheels.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +1

      @@animalfunfacts247 thanks for sharing and hope you've subscribed

  • @JuicyJLee
    @JuicyJLee 11 місяців тому +11

    In South Africa all we want is Lower Crime more Jobs NO ILLEGAL immigrants and no corruption. We in South Africa don't care about being a Giant of Africa we content annd blessed

  • @nzuzomthembu5000
    @nzuzomthembu5000 11 місяців тому +50

    Angola, Algeria,Egypt, kenya ore even Morocco etc... are also good countries to live in , with a great quality of life ....this Nigeria vs S.Africa thing is getting old now

    • @yldan1753
      @yldan1753 11 місяців тому +3

      Unfortunately none of those countries besides Kenya have press freedom. And if people aren't free to say what they want, even if its sometimes negative, they're not all that free. At least in SA we can complain day and night, public or private. Something to not take for granted.

    • @happinesswatts
      @happinesswatts 10 місяців тому

      Honestly we don't care. Leave us alone. We not asking who is good. They are bothered

  • @PredestinedHeir
    @PredestinedHeir 11 місяців тому +32

    I don't get people keep insisting on comparing Nigeria to South Africa. Nigeria is not on a level to be compared to South Africa.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +3

      So also does Nigeria say about SA. Now you understand why these comparosons are necessary. Thanks for watching and hope you've subscribed

    • @valentineisraelshabangu4069
      @valentineisraelshabangu4069 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@toontumnetworkcome on bro let's keep it real what's there to compare between SA and Nigeria nothing thus about it. We are way too different you ppl are just obsessed with titles take the number 1 title.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      @@valentineisraelshabangu4069 but did you watch the podcast though? Cos if you did you'd seen the particular things I spoke in comparison. All the same thanks for your input

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      @@thabisothejane5328 that's bad. Really bad

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 10 місяців тому

      @@toontumnetwork Nigeria cant say that coz their kids goes to SA for school, for sports, for job opportunities, business opportunities, free health care and high standard of living when no South Africans are doing the same. We dont need Nigeria but Nigeria needs SA so much thats why we have more than 3 million Nigerians in SA. Im just waiting for the day SA deports Nigerians back to their hopeless zoo called Nigeria and see who is who

  • @phillipmash5597
    @phillipmash5597 11 місяців тому +49

    As a South African 🇿🇦 ,I only care about building a stable economy for our people to enjoy their own country.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +3

      That's a fair wish and thanks for sharing. Hope you've subscribed

    • @emmalineandbrian1202
      @emmalineandbrian1202 11 місяців тому +4

      @@toontumnetworkthis is what you are interested In subscription, you use my country for your selfish purposes, why not compare your country Ghana with South Africa.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +1

      @@emmalineandbrian1202 it's a long project and eventually all African countries will feature in an episode. It's not just for your country. Thanks

    • @emmalineandbrian1202
      @emmalineandbrian1202 11 місяців тому +1

      @@toontumnetwork please start with your country Ghana leave Nigeria alone

    • @tshiamishogopane633
      @tshiamishogopane633 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@emmalineandbrian1202As a South African, I totally agree. Furthermore he should desist from pinning any African countries against each other, for his click bait.

  • @thapelolengana
    @thapelolengana 11 місяців тому +63

    In South Africa we are not interested of being a leader of Africa. We are a sovereign state, focused of quality of life of South Africans. That's our primary focus

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for your input and hope you've subscribed

    • @kevinemmanuel8525
      @kevinemmanuel8525 11 місяців тому

      This is 100% a lie

    • @jeremiasrobinson3478
      @jeremiasrobinson3478 9 місяців тому

      Notwithstanding, South Africa is a destination. Not a country.
      AZANIA, is the African name of SA, you need to claim back your right name, most importantly, claim back your lands for the sake of your kids or they will be submitted to another apartheid. The land must be your first wife.
      A man without a land is like a tree without roots.
      There's no independence without the LAND.

    • @thapelolengana
      @thapelolengana 8 місяців тому +1

      @jeremiasrobinson3478 We are South Africa, names are names,
      The struggle is total emancipation of South Africans and ensuring that majority of our people are economically active. We are not focused on peripherals, but on nation building. I am proudly South African, and love the name South Africa

    • @jeremiasrobinson3478
      @jeremiasrobinson3478 8 місяців тому

      @@thapelolengana Total emancipation will come by totally reclaiming your. Without land you can play economics. Real economics starts with the land..

  • @sundayada9663
    @sundayada9663 11 місяців тому +50

    Fair analysis, But a proud Nigerian here 🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🦾🦾🦾🦾 we move

    • @bhekaninhleko9237
      @bhekaninhleko9237 11 місяців тому

      You call yourself giant of Africa I'm lost what kind of a giant not protecting its own people?why I'm saying this most Nigerians are scattered all over the world because they don't feel protected by their country ,you find them in desperate journeys in the Mediterranean sea because they are not happy with their own country. You can't find a South African in those desperate journeys because whatever went wrong within our country we stand up and fix it, running away from your own family living in your neighborhood won't fix your problems face them so that your coming generations won't experience it again

    • @saliualaba4464
      @saliualaba4464 10 місяців тому +2

      You look soo beautiful,my beautiful Nigeria sister ❤

    • @danielsiluma3691
      @danielsiluma3691 9 місяців тому

      You country is just giant mess of Africa if davido or burnboy die today no one will remember Nigeria

  • @precophox
    @precophox 11 місяців тому +40

    South Africans don't care about who is No:1 Our focus is not to leave our Country. This is the only Country "Home" we have.

  • @nthapetlala7822
    @nthapetlala7822 11 місяців тому +101

    By the way South Africa has just won the Rugby World Cup for the record fourth time after beating England, France, and other First World Countries. South Africa is also the current Chairman of the BRICS Group. As a matter of fact, Nigeria will never be on the same Level as South Africa 🇿🇦 🇿🇦 🇿🇦

    • @NellyBrenko
      @NellyBrenko 11 місяців тому

      Use your two hands to close your mouth. That mentality will only k**l you. What's rugby to the best countries in the world?

    • @nthapetlala7822
      @nthapetlala7822 11 місяців тому +29

      ​@@NellyBrenko I normally don't respond to things such as this!!! You must ask yourself why the BRICS Countries don't want Nigeria to be a member of the BRICS Group??? Why would the BRICS Nations choose Ethiopia & Egypt and not Nigeria???

    • @dorrtay
      @dorrtay 11 місяців тому

      Your entire lineage are stupid. Channel your insults to Ghana. The idiot making the comparison is just another jealous Ghanaian. Nigerians don't compare. You can win anything and build skyscrapers to high heaven, we don't care. Moron!

    • @komanelehaha1655
      @komanelehaha1655 11 місяців тому +8

      @@nthapetlala7822 because Nigeria is poor, a persona non grata

    • @tshidiso9653
      @tshidiso9653 11 місяців тому

      It's because Nigeria is controlled by the west and they are ploting against their sister country "Niger".

  • @philizeed8938
    @philizeed8938 11 місяців тому +30

    Nigerians always want to compete, even if another country is mentioned in a good even if it is not South Africa they will have to try and take the shine and mention that they are greater. I have never heard of South Africans comparing themselves to Nigeria. The evidence is most Nigerians are emigrating to South Africa and not the other way around. I find that South Africans love their country and fight for it . I wish my country could develop itself like South Africa.

    • @okeogheneoneyibo
      @okeogheneoneyibo 9 місяців тому

      ​@@jinmi7832um.. I had to read the comment thrice to be sure you're in the right place.. are you in the right place?

    • @okeogheneoneyibo
      @okeogheneoneyibo 9 місяців тому

      @@jinmi7832 good advice...buh also check we if you're under the right comment
      He didn't say anything about the UA-camr being a Nigerian

  • @leboeric2835
    @leboeric2835 11 місяців тому +19

    As South Africans, we are in competition with out former self. Nigeria can keep the Giant of Africa title, we are the rainbownation

    • @asiphejohnson6543
      @asiphejohnson6543 11 місяців тому +4

      They are self proclaimed giants. No one called them that.

    • @leboeric2835
      @leboeric2835 11 місяців тому +2

      @@asiphejohnson6543 exactly. Initially they called themselves that bcoz of their large population

  • @euphoria_hbmabasa148
    @euphoria_hbmabasa148 11 місяців тому +42

    One thing about South Africa is we don't compete with no other country... We're our own competition and always lookin to improve all the time.
    And our other main focus is to improve our SADC countries be helping each other and learning from each other.
    If we were into competition, we wouldn't even go and compete with West, Central, East or North Africans, we would rater compete with countries like Namibia 🇳🇦, Botswana 🇧🇼, Zambia, Lesotho 🇱🇸 etc. But we don't have a good vision hence we don't see competition. We are our own competition.
    If the title of the Giant Of Africa is important to Nigeria 🇳🇬, well you can have it. 🙂🙂🙂

  • @Mosaidets
    @Mosaidets 11 місяців тому +9

    The truth is, no white men came to South Africa with any minerals or anything that build South Afrcan. Our land is rich with minerals and that's the one build South Africa till this day

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      I understand that point but right now the whites are South Africans just as the indegens are and I think we should move towards making south Africa work for all that live in and not a select few. Thank you and hope you've subscribed

  • @nathi760
    @nathi760 11 місяців тому +25

    What we south Africans are not competing, we are very, very happy with what we have ,proudly south African ❤❤❤❤❤

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +1

      Sharp and you need to subscribe wena

    • @wahwah7701
      @wahwah7701 11 місяців тому +2

      @@toontumnetwork Bro I have to give it to you this is the best comparison I ever seen done by an African. You are very smart and know what are the aspects needed in order to give an accurate comparison. I want to see more of your video's because I'm learning alot from you.👍👍👌👌

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +1

      @@wahwah7701 thanks so much. Thanks for acknowledging my work and hope you've subscribed

    • @wahwah7701
      @wahwah7701 11 місяців тому +1

      @@toontumnetwork Already did brother you deserve my subscription.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +1

      @@wahwah7701 salute you. Thanks

  • @eugenejustin8487
    @eugenejustin8487 11 місяців тому +17

    We don't care bout de ranking as South Africans... we love our country

  • @worldknowledge254
    @worldknowledge254 10 місяців тому +12

    I'm a Kenyan🇰🇪 but the two countries have a great impact in Africa...SA represents us globally in matters diplomacy and voice of Africa in international matters like currently is the only country who've cut ties with Israel following the wars with Palestine, they host international games like world cup, this year they hosted world netball, they will always win these bids because that have the capacity, they represent us in Rugby as well, however, how would the world be without Nigerian music, the movies and their football...Nigeria is also known more than any other African country since they're the majority and their migration to many countries abroad

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  10 місяців тому +1

      You nailed it absolutely....thanks for sharing and hope you've subscribed

    • @worldknowledge254
      @worldknowledge254 10 місяців тому

      @@toontumnetwork absolutely!

    • @happinesswatts
      @happinesswatts 10 місяців тому +1

      If follow africsn leader gets in problems SA will stood by them. There was a African leader they expected SA
      And they say no..... if that was Nigeria. Ghana DRC. Forget. I don't care what happend. Do these people know how many evil Europeans covered and protect them

  • @NhlanhlaMathe
    @NhlanhlaMathe 11 місяців тому +25

    We in South Africa are not in competition with y'all... have fun doe ✌🏾

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for sharing

    • @triston9618
      @triston9618 11 місяців тому +6

      Tell them Nhlanhla😒😏🙄, we really don't care we really don't want to lead any of the African countries😂😂😂😂😂 we are too busy trying to solve our ish.....they always want to compare themselves to us😢😢😢😢😢.

    • @NhlanhlaMathe
      @NhlanhlaMathe 11 місяців тому +6

      @@triston9618 Every 2nd video it's South Africa this, South Africa that. They won't let us prosper in peace like Nasty said.

    • @violetralebipi8194
      @violetralebipi8194 11 місяців тому +5

      True we are our own competition and believe in improving our own country

  • @fugeesazaro7535
    @fugeesazaro7535 11 місяців тому +94

    Compare South Africa vs some European countries not nigeria

    • @givenbaloyi
      @givenbaloyi 11 місяців тому +15

      and drops a mic

    • @marshathomas6422
      @marshathomas6422 11 місяців тому +3

      No its in Africa, it should be compared to fellow African countries

    • @lebohangmokheseng9250
      @lebohangmokheseng9250 11 місяців тому +15

      @@marshathomas6422 theres no competition.

    • @marshathomas6422
      @marshathomas6422 11 місяців тому +3

      @@lebohangmokheseng9250 okay

    • @mihlalimakwedini46
      @mihlalimakwedini46 11 місяців тому +5

      ​@@marshathomas6422Normally it should but development wise there is no competition in Africa that could go toe to toe against South Africa and that is the honest truth.

  • @papap1186
    @papap1186 11 місяців тому +22

    You should give Nigeria the respect because Nigeria is a Black country and developing by Black Nigerians not Foreigners. 95% of the companies in Nigeria owned by Nigerians. The Nigerian economy owned by Nigerians not Foreigners.
    All the Billionaires in Nigeria are Nigerians.
    Most of the popular Banks in Africa are Nigerian Banks.
    In South Africa, over 90% of the big companies owned by White South Africans, Europeans, Indians, Americans and Chinese.
    All of the Billionaires in South Africa are Whites except only one Black Billionaire.
    The Whites own South Africa economy.
    The Europeans built and developed South Africa.
    Everything in South Africa was built by Europeans.
    That's why they called South Africa the Rainbow Nation.
    South Africa is not a Black country.
    South Africa is now the third largest economy in Africa.
    Nigeria is the most popular and influential country in Africa and also the most powerful Black country in the world.

    • @NinohBrown
      @NinohBrown 11 місяців тому +22

      Lol 😂😂😂 😂 can't help but laugh at this mis information here🇿🇦

    • @derosime
      @derosime 11 місяців тому

      South Africa has more influence in the world than Nigeria. The only thing Nigeria has influence on is music. Western nations don't look to Nigeria they are not even in the G20

    • @onyekachukwuemeka5236
      @onyekachukwuemeka5236 11 місяців тому +3

      @@NinohBrown if this is misinformation kindly correct then .

    • @Timmy_candy
      @Timmy_candy 11 місяців тому +1

      On point sir

    • @deedeeumondak4490
      @deedeeumondak4490 11 місяців тому +6

      @@NinohBrown2539 Europeans developed South Africa and they still control their economy making their African majority to lash out on their fellow Africans as we've seen in their Xenophobic episode.

  • @mrfranklin2761
    @mrfranklin2761 11 місяців тому +23

    As a Nigerian, I would say that Nigeria is filled with very intelligent and forward thinking people, but have been cursed with political vampires. The only thing thriving in Nigeria is the entertainment industry.

    • @emmalineandbrian1202
      @emmalineandbrian1202 11 місяців тому +1

      Guy are you sure you are a Nigerian, please don’t ever say Nigeria is cursed with politicians, Nigeria is learning we will get there.

    • @laspalms8620
      @laspalms8620 11 місяців тому

      ​@@emmalineandbrian1202wena you are a Nigerian Julius malema; angry

    • @emmalineandbrian1202
      @emmalineandbrian1202 11 місяців тому

      @@laspalms8620 who is Malema, where was he when South Africans were looting and killing Africans in his country, why didn’t he used the same energy to stop them from destroying and killing Africans in South Africa.

    • @stephenkwablaadonu8773
      @stephenkwablaadonu8773 11 місяців тому

      Nigerian leaders are the most wicked people on earth. Can you imagine Nigeria is still struggling with electricity in the 21st century

    • @limpopoRiver
      @limpopoRiver 10 місяців тому +2

      Intelligent and forward people who cant seem to use those traits to build their country Nigeria, the same people who japa at every opportunity they get.....the same nigerians who cant invest their intelligence on developing their country, the same forward people who are being chased out from different countries in the world because of their bad behaviour.

  • @sthe_zar6341
    @sthe_zar6341 11 місяців тому +60

    Most SAns don't even know where Nigeria is on the map because we really don't care about other countries let alone to even compare ourselves to completely failed states like that one.But it seems like most Africans are obsessed with us which is very strange to us 🇿🇦.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      Interesting and thanks for sharing. Hope you've subscribed

    • @maxjaytv
      @maxjaytv 11 місяців тому

      Really, who cares about SA 😂
      Oh, Ghana though. Which of the SA are you talking about, is it the one owned by the white , or the non- existing one ruled by the real Africans😂. You people are not ashamed at all. You are still been dominated by white man in your own country😂

    • @mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121
      @mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121 11 місяців тому +9

      @@maxjaytv How so dominated? I bet you have zero idea of SA context. The macro level of the economy (which deals with the means of production) is dominated by mainly the black government and a few whites. The micro level of the economy which consists of upper, middle and lower middle class is dominated by black people. It consists of millionaires, shareholders, board members, directors, CEOs, senior managers, managers, and junior managers. The black middle class controls the purchasing power of the economy, they can afford to live in gated estates with luxurious homes, porche cars, etc.
      I bet this you don't understand because SA, unlike your country Nigeria, (which is a lower middle class economy and largely informal) , is an upper middle class economy and highly industrialized and produces the above results.

    • @maxjaytv
      @maxjaytv 11 місяців тому

      @@mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121 you make laugh in Chinese. See how you are finding it difficult to put your thoughts through. Well, we all know that Nigeria have virtually some the world's best professionals. Go check it out. Your purchasing power is not even near that of Nigerians.
      Go Google it. Black south Africans are the poorest in Africa. You are ill- informed about so many things 😂

    • @avalonmars2598
      @avalonmars2598 11 місяців тому +10

      I hear u, and I'm 🇿🇦 too mgani wam. Kodwa looking at ur statement makes me scared that if we develop a superiority complex, we are going to grow ignorant like the Americans who can't point to any country on a map. Other countries obsession with us is because of the good we do, and they look up to us for that, which is why malema says we have really let Africa down because alot of states look up to us. Don't lose sight of the enemy my friend, otherwise we'll continue fighting for crumbs while they chowing the whole loaf.

  • @officialtshwarotshite1886
    @officialtshwarotshite1886 11 місяців тому +12

    South Africa is the best country In the world 🌍 period it, we amazing 👏 we have more lands, Amazing infrastructure, take it easy

  • @phemelomogatusi8495
    @phemelomogatusi8495 11 місяців тому +15

    South africa just won the Rugby world cup by the way😂😂😂😂

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      Cheers to SA and hope you've subscribed

  • @sanewsonthego8260
    @sanewsonthego8260 11 місяців тому +10

    Speaking as a South African, on behalf of my fellow countrymen, we have no strong inclination to assume a leadership role in Africa. Nigerians may continue to be the dominant force on the continent as the "Giant of Africa."

  • @Voola_Vala
    @Voola_Vala 11 місяців тому +12

    Here in RSA we are just trying to build a better life for all. We are not in competition with any African countries. We don't even see the need to compare ourselves with other African countries. Whichever country that wants to take the number 1 spot can have it. Isn't it about time we realise that we are not competitors but allies.

  • @xosanjosh-t8709
    @xosanjosh-t8709 11 місяців тому +36

    WHILE WE CELEBRATE FOURTH WORLD CUP. YOU DISTURB OUR JOY 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

    • @MontiNedo-sv5pr
      @MontiNedo-sv5pr 11 місяців тому +4

      Unfortunately those Rugby world cups are not even recognized to be for Africans, keep on dancing for merits that doesn't belongs to you and your people.... Sad !

    • @wongama6651
      @wongama6651 11 місяців тому +8

      That is so true. They are just disturbing our joy.

    • @kwazingcobo8551
      @kwazingcobo8551 11 місяців тому

      @@MontiNedo-sv5pr what a stupid comment, anyways The Whole country is celebrating our great sporting achievement for all South Africans

    • @sylviancikaziphitsholo7822
      @sylviancikaziphitsholo7822 11 місяців тому +15

      Disturbing other peoples joy is what makes them feel better nothing else to be proud of rise mzantsi rise 😅😅

    • @MontiNedo-sv5pr
      @MontiNedo-sv5pr 11 місяців тому +1

      @@sylviancikaziphitsholo7822 oh okay these guys got education 30 years ago , they're still very much fresh in their brain washed !

  • @emekaferdinand6451
    @emekaferdinand6451 11 місяців тому +20

    You don't have work
    Everybody want to blo.. they will use Nigeria name
    Nigeria only has bad government
    We Nigerians..we give ours best to all times
    Many Africans want to be like Nigerians but Nigerians want to be like Nigerians
    No one is better than who
    We all Africans
    Africans beautiful live with us

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +1

      Well said....thanks for sharing

    • @paintsildesmond8495
      @paintsildesmond8495 11 місяців тому +10

      I dont think he only used Nigeria in this video, South Africa was mentioned too. Dont claim any shine.

    • @mihlayonke
      @mihlayonke 11 місяців тому

      No one wants to be like Nigerians.

    • @kholisatanda9270
      @kholisatanda9270 11 місяців тому

      Who wants to be like nagerians 😂😂 I think you living a fantasy world I'm sorry to cut your fairytale wake up you are still dreaming. 😝🤫

    • @marshathomas6422
      @marshathomas6422 11 місяців тому +3

      You say we are all Africans in the same breath you make this about you by claiming many Africans want to be like you 🤨

  • @TheSiphelo
    @TheSiphelo 11 місяців тому +10

    Nigerians are in South Africa because we are just a way better country compared to them .

    • @lovejoseph1899
      @lovejoseph1899 11 місяців тому

      They are there bcos of the establishment of the whyte man, not because of the second class citizens like you😂

  • @Yassmiinn.
    @Yassmiinn. 11 місяців тому +4

    All I'm saying is, I've never heard of South Africans leaving their beautiful country for Nigeria, and that's on periodt. PUT SOME RESPECT ON OUR COUNTRY 🎤.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      Well received. Thanks for sharing

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 10 місяців тому

      South Africans are not a desperate nation that is always forcing itself on other whilst calling its self giants of Africa

  • @mkosinyoni1145
    @mkosinyoni1145 11 місяців тому +13

    Nigeria does not come anywhere near SA . They are two diametrically opposed countries. SA is much more developed, Nigeria

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for sharing and hope you've subscribed

    • @barbarafadare9579
      @barbarafadare9579 11 місяців тому +1

      Developed by Dutch people not you! And that's why you people want to destroy it, You have finally ensured that there will be no electricity, abeg shift

  • @asiphejohnson6543
    @asiphejohnson6543 11 місяців тому +8

    Stop involving South Africa into this. We are completely different from y'all.

  • @emmanueldominic6219
    @emmanueldominic6219 11 місяців тому +19

    When you are comparing Nigeria and South Africa, you should be looking at the black community. Most South Africans think they are superior to other African countries. The whites are the ones making the moves and not the black. You cannot compare South African blacks to Nigeria. We want real black representation in Africa and not those with more foreign interest rather than African interest. The blacks in South Africa are relaxed and wait for government grants for almost everything while Nigeria are goal getters and born hustlers. Nigeria can achieve anything. God loves Nigeria.

    • @thimothyade6385
      @thimothyade6385 11 місяців тому

      This is analysis is very poor. South Africa was built by the slave masters and they are still there just like Israel and Palestin.

    • @top-gnews8333
      @top-gnews8333 11 місяців тому

      i am south africa we have never said we are superior i think people like u are jeleous u have a tendancy to think nigeria better untill u meet us who dont see anything special about u

    • @senzomazibuko1980
      @senzomazibuko1980 11 місяців тому +13

      Always remember that the grants u are talking about, are tax collection from big companies and from the working class, there are no free grants, but they come from a functioning tax collection government system - which also gives us free medication and building of more infrastructure, pension money for the elder people - so many other projects. The same resources that other African countries have, that what we working on - Look a Botswana, Namibia, Swaziland even Zimbabwe, Zambia, Mozambique, and Malawi ( these countries have identical cultures and the same style we don't complain but move forward, and we don't make unnecessary noise - Southern African countries are doing better than most West African countries.
      These countries are huge in size, but their population is way less than that of West Africa

    • @masjm7278
      @masjm7278 11 місяців тому

      Who is Building your Railways? China and Who is coming to South Africa and never Wants to return to their Fake Giant of Africa Country? your People !! South Africa is building its Railway Infrastructure and Roads by themselves and Skyscrapers. And you with over 200 million people Have not a single World Class Construction and Civil Engineering Company .Your buildings keep Collapsing because of Structural Failure . As for White South Africans they are our People , Born and Bred Who Contribute to our Economy and Cultural Diversity, like your situation with Fulani and Hausa, and many more, I Caution you !!STOP with your Racism/ Ignorance and Envy.

    • @jameslourens8691
      @jameslourens8691 11 місяців тому +6

      The black middle class has actually surpassed the white middle class in size in South Africa. South Africa is fully industrialised with a large manufacturing sector whereas Nigeria's economy is almost completely dependent on oil & gas revenues.

  • @bhekaninhleko9237
    @bhekaninhleko9237 11 місяців тому +11

    South Africa is leading that is why they call us the gate of Africa, if you want to enter Africa start with South Africa, that is why you won't find us desperate to leave our country because we are happy and loving our country

    • @adeyemilambo
      @adeyemilambo 11 місяців тому

      Mind you, Ghana too is claiming Gate of Africa, which country in Africa is the gate of Africa.
      It has shown that no country in Africa can replace Nigeria, Nigeria is the only country taking Africa to the world, if u go to any country outside Africa, before they mention any country in africa, Nigeria will be the first to mention.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      @@adeyemilambo Interesting... Ghana has same title. In fact if you type The Gateway to Africa on google Ghana should appear. Thanks for sharing though and hope you've subscribed

    • @bhekaninhleko9237
      @bhekaninhleko9237 11 місяців тому +4

      South Africa cause there are lot of things started in South Africa which other African countries desperate to achieve, hosting world cup, proper infrastructures

    • @AustineAK
      @AustineAK 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@toontumnetworkgate way when it comes to ghana was meant for black American attraction, which is not relevant in 2023

    • @AustineAK
      @AustineAK 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@toontumnetworkwith south Africa the gateway to africa is by investment, economy, business and business coming to the continent. They start in south africa first, and put their headquarters in south africa.
      Think of any western company they start in south Africa

  • @rushnande3731
    @rushnande3731 11 місяців тому +3

    There's no way 50% South Africans living below poverty line. Only 17% of South Africans live with less than $1 per day.
    Get your facts straight and mention sources it's annoying to listen to misinformation about one's country.

  • @observant23
    @observant23 11 місяців тому +2

    as a KENYAN, south africa is the GIANT of africa by far interms of everrything except population.

  • @KHWAHLAMBA
    @KHWAHLAMBA 11 місяців тому +4

    No poverty SA. South Africa is receiving more than 50 to 100 thousands impoverished Africans per week. This increases the ghettos and informal settlements. This widens the poverty gap, Our kids are fed at all govt schools and each child is paid R500 social grants to maintain their needs. We South Africans can see how impoverished our fellow Afro bros are the first time they arrive. Then boom they are now driving modern vehicles on paved clean 6 lined high ways of Mzansi. Pls bro you got western info about us. Come do the research process on the ground. I am not a govt stooge but a fact will always remain a fact😮😮😮

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 10 місяців тому

      whilst Nigeria is known as poverty capital, women giving birth in the bushes like animals coz of lack of health care facilities

  • @Dez20022
    @Dez20022 10 місяців тому +5

    As a South Africa I just wish we remain humble and keep building our nation for our future generations, leave the "giant" debate to others.

  • @avalonmars2598
    @avalonmars2598 11 місяців тому +14

    I'm South african🇿🇦, I don't think we as a people give too much attention to these lists because we are at odds with our government as we have high standards and expectations. I think to a large degree we are more or less aware of our influence in Africa but I am dissapointed we don't do more to unite the continent as I think some african countries will listen if we put a firm plan on the table. I do wonder where our friendly sibling rivalry with Nigeria comes from, especially cuz we are in different regions. It used to be just football but it's spilled over to music and other things too. The Ghana/Nigeria rivalry I understand because of the similarities and proximity. Overall though I don't think we should be in competition rather if we all have the muscles let's flex them to truly rid Africa of colonialism of all forms, and use each others strong points to get to the next level.

    • @mosalethoba5267
      @mosalethoba5267 11 місяців тому +4

      Sibling rivalry my guy ? South Africas siblings are other Southern African states

    • @disciplempilowaseshowe5702
      @disciplempilowaseshowe5702 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@mosalethoba5267Hhaibo! Is not Afrika one my brother?

    • @avalonmars2598
      @avalonmars2598 11 місяців тому +1

      @@mosalethoba5267don't get confused my brother, we have alot in common with the other regions of Africa. Yes, there are more similarities with our immediate neighbours like Botswana and Zimbabwe etc. Especially when it comes to languages, but if u take a good long look at history u will see that our interactions and influences spanned the whole continent and not just our immediate neighbours.

    • @mosalethoba5267
      @mosalethoba5267 11 місяців тому +1

      @@disciplempilowaseshowe5702 oh really when was it ever one ? Explain to me why theres so much diversity ? This is the most diverse continent remember

    • @mosalethoba5267
      @mosalethoba5267 11 місяців тому +1

      @@avalonmars2598 you capping

  • @blue.75photography38
    @blue.75photography38 11 місяців тому +11

    Mxm compare South Africa🇿🇦 with European or South American countries brother
    1. South Africa provide any unemployed person (age 19-59) with R350
    2. Everyone who is above (age of 59+) R1980
    3. Child from 1 month - 18 years receive R520

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I should bring that up next time. Thanks for that info and hope you've subscribed

    • @biggeststeppa1
      @biggeststeppa1 11 місяців тому +2

      being a welfare state is not a flex my guy

    • @triston9618
      @triston9618 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@biggeststeppa1, but at least the government helps those who are in difficulties it is not a bad thing hunny. I am sure your Nigerian government helps u as well since yl have such a big mouths.

    • @biggeststeppa1
      @biggeststeppa1 11 місяців тому

      @@jinmi7832 much as i agree with you Nigeria does not have a single world class city. I've been to Lagos, the best parts are worse than the worst parts of Joburg. Abuja is nice for what it is but it's hardly world class. Also, SA has 8 major metros

    • @biggeststeppa1
      @biggeststeppa1 11 місяців тому

      @@jinmi7832 I'm neither South African nor do I disagree with you. What I am saying however, is that Nigerian cities aren't anything. They couldn't hold a candle to Accra so to call any of them world-class is offensive to actual world-class cities.

  • @vuyosayasholento3714
    @vuyosayasholento3714 11 місяців тому +30

    As South African 🇿🇦 i have never think of comparing with other African. What i know is South Africans always fighting to grow and have better life!
    But thanks for video 🤝 nice to know

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      Thanks for sharing your opinion and hope you've subscribed

    • @afrikawewant5390
      @afrikawewant5390 11 місяців тому

      Please check music revenue according to PWC between South Africa and Nigeria in 2022

  • @alegbekehinde8753
    @alegbekehinde8753 11 місяців тому +10

    Honestly, if you want to compare please compare properly. Comparing Nigeria to south Africa is like Comparing Syria to Israel in the middle East. Who does not know that the current Economy, infrastructure and military was built by the west . The whites stole most of the land and kept our brothers in slums . Go see who really has the economic power on South Africa, majority don't look like you and me. So comparing am economy built by blacks to the one built by foreign land grabbers is not right In my opinion.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      Point well delivered. Thanks for your input

    • @nkazimulondlovu8056
      @nkazimulondlovu8056 11 місяців тому +2

      Youre in pain brother SA is better

    • @alegbekehinde8753
      @alegbekehinde8753 11 місяців тому

      @nkazimulondlovu8056 Yes am in pain because I need you to get out of your slum.

    • @dineomolapo9934
      @dineomolapo9934 6 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@alegbekehinde8753slum is jankara market how much is a human head there or mankonko slum in Lagos talk of people living inside dirty water chaaaaai rest aaaaa you can't can't use the word slum no you don't qualify mmm😂

  • @maburwanemokoena7117
    @maburwanemokoena7117 11 місяців тому +3

    If you are wondering where he got his statistics about South Africa he got them World Bank, these statistics were taken in 2014, 9 years ago!

  • @josephgbogbo7270
    @josephgbogbo7270 11 місяців тому +8

    It was a fair analysis. Congratulations to South Africa.
    ==From Nigeria==

    • @hopes9451
      @hopes9451 11 місяців тому +1

      It honestly doesn't really move us as South Africans it's actually boring! It's time we stopped this nonsense of comparing and contrasting instead of focusing on building and fixing our communities and countries! That's why in SA to this day we still fight with our government to stop the corruption and deliver services! The minute we lose that focus on them, they do what they please with our hard earned tax!!

  • @Mkym365
    @Mkym365 11 місяців тому +8

    The truth is the Vast majority of Nigerians don’t think about South Africans like you may assume, Nigerians aRe pan Africanist and consider all Our African brothers & sisters YES. However, our focus is competing with the rest of the World 🌎

    • @valentineisraelshabangu4069
      @valentineisraelshabangu4069 11 місяців тому +3

      Don't even lie 😂

    • @Mkym365
      @Mkym365 11 місяців тому +1

      @@valentineisraelshabangu4069 Lie about what?

    • @pump1180
      @pump1180 11 місяців тому

      😂😂😂that’s hilarious the only thing Nigerians ever do is compare against SA

    • @DavidOdusanya134.
      @DavidOdusanya134. 10 місяців тому

      ​@@valentineisraelshabangu4069did she or he stutter😂. U guys are dumb to think we are obsessed with u 😂. Many Nigerians don't even care about s.a 😂

    • @Locodadon-b
      @Locodadon-b 10 місяців тому +1

      Ur right we don’t think about SA and a lot of us don’t even look at them as real Africans

  • @naijakyimokhaitopic2720
    @naijakyimokhaitopic2720 11 місяців тому +11

    Well All should not forget that Nigerian is the black raise, God Bless us all Africans, one love ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ 11:37

  • @SouthAfrica7788
    @SouthAfrica7788 11 місяців тому +30

    South Africa is the best country in Africa 🇿🇦

  • @MichaelVumile-jb3lb
    @MichaelVumile-jb3lb 11 місяців тому +6

    We just want better life for people in SA and Africa as a whole. Giant or not 🇿🇦

  • @KhanyisaMhlaba
    @KhanyisaMhlaba 11 місяців тому +3

    Why you guys always compare with south Africa you can compare yourself with Egypt Morocco or Namibia not us

  • @babatundematthew806
    @babatundematthew806 11 місяців тому +15

    To be honest, Nigeria is still a primary economy while SA is probably a tertiary economy. What it means is that Nigeria is not close to South Africa at the moment but has a huge potential for triple or more the economy of south Africa. There's will be no comparison.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      Thanks for sharing and be kind to subscribe

    • @lovejoseph1899
      @lovejoseph1899 11 місяців тому +1

      When I here about SA, Whites come to my mind.

    • @ebee-s3w
      @ebee-s3w 11 місяців тому

      Please what economy are you talking about

    • @nkululekongwenya1766
      @nkululekongwenya1766 11 місяців тому

      Fact! Nigeria should be 3 times bigger than SA. Poor governance is Nigeria's downfall

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      @@nkululekongwenya1766 thanks for sharing that

  • @tkmore5986
    @tkmore5986 11 місяців тому +4

    As a South African, Nigeria can rank top in whatever and whenever... We dont care

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      Interesting and thanks for your input hope you've subscribed

    • @THE_MILLENNIAL_AFRICAN
      @THE_MILLENNIAL_AFRICAN 11 місяців тому

      You clearly do!
      South Africans are flooding the comments which proves my point..
      Nigerians don’t care at all (clearly).

    • @THE_MILLENNIAL_AFRICAN
      @THE_MILLENNIAL_AFRICAN 11 місяців тому

      You clearly do!
      South Africans are flooding the comments which proves my point..
      Nigerians don’t care at all (clearly).

  • @tebellohelen9246
    @tebellohelen9246 11 місяців тому +2

    And who cares about the leadership os Africa, we only care about quality life, that's access to education, health , food and good housing

  • @privateytaccount
    @privateytaccount 11 місяців тому +5

    Why are we still stuck in the cycle of comparing countries? Does it really serve any purpose other than stirring up tension and creating unnecessary divides? As a proud Nigerian who spent a decade in South Africa, I can attest to the fact that both nations have their unique strengths and flaws.
    Instead of perpetuating this 'A vs B' narrative, let's focus on the collective contributions each African nation brings to the table. We should be working towards fostering unity, building strong economies, and enhancing security within our continent, rather than relying on external influences.
    I have immense respect for South Africa and its people-they've taught me valuable lessons during my 10 years there. some great experience and some horribles ones too. But I'm tired of these comparisons that seem to add no real value. It's time to move beyond this divisive rhetoric and concentrate on the positive aspects that can benefit us all.
    You guys need to STOP this, WE DON'T NEED IT. You got your engagement, congratulations but this needs to stop.
    Thank you

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      Thanks for taking time to watch and give such detailed response. The idea behind this isn't to arouse anger and misunderstanding but rather to let other African nationals know whats going on on the other side of the continent. And I hope you've subscribed

  • @keletsomokone2663
    @keletsomokone2663 11 місяців тому +11

    The sooner you stop with the comparisons, the sooner you can start finding what works in SA and maybe be inspired to have it implemented in your own countries. These playground comparisons are boring and do nothing to propel Africa foreward. But knock yourselves out, we busy celebrating world champion things✌🏾🏆

    • @honordiamond2548
      @honordiamond2548 11 місяців тому +2

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💃💃💃🤸‍♂️🤸‍♂️🤸‍♂️🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🏉🏉🏉🏏🏏🏏🏏

    • @hopes9451
      @hopes9451 11 місяців тому +1

      🎤!!!

    • @valentineisraelshabangu4069
      @valentineisraelshabangu4069 11 місяців тому +3

      They obsessed with titles I always tell them they are not united these ppl they hate one another too.

  • @james56660
    @james56660 11 місяців тому +26

    My guy…..Concentrate on your own country Ghana 🇬🇭.Tell the world 🌍 about the hardship/impoverishment there. ☝️

    • @godsanointed3397
      @godsanointed3397 11 місяців тому +6

      My brother, don't be harsh to someone who has done an educative content like this. He is very objective without casting aspersions on both countries. Please, not all Ghanaians are like shatta wale, Sammy Flex and Kelvin Taylor. Let's watch and see if he will also toe the lines of those sworn enemies of Nigeria 🇳🇬 then we will go to own trenches and open fire as usual. For now, let brotherly Love 💕 continues. Shalom.

    • @samtislorh8529
      @samtislorh8529 11 місяців тому +12

      He's trying to compare black south Africans to Nigerians knowing fully well that both Ghanians and black south Africans are nowhere near us when it comes to achievements. He thinks by ganging up with black south Africans against Nigerians will give him an advantage. Good luck to your plans 😂

    • @james56660
      @james56660 11 місяців тому

      @@samtislorh8529 + You are so right with that assertion. Ghanaians are have this dark heart for the Nigerians simply because you Nigerians make them feel ordinary and insignificant.☝️

    • @laylandstanley4992
      @laylandstanley4992 11 місяців тому +2

      You just made me laugh so hard 😂😂😂 at least he compared Nigeria against black and white and colored south Africans 😂

    • @nkazimulondlovu8056
      @nkazimulondlovu8056 11 місяців тому

      ​@@samtislorh8529😂😂😂you make me laugh with these lies

  • @RaphaelNyaboga
    @RaphaelNyaboga 11 місяців тому +9

    Nigerians are always desperately yarning to be recognized but other African countries have refused to fallacy that Nigeria is the giant of Africa instead they see it as a rat of Africa because of more misses than hits

    • @barbarafadare9579
      @barbarafadare9579 11 місяців тому +3

      😂😂😂😂😂my dear, we are recognised, we are not desperate for it, We are it, When we come into a room you will know we have arrived, we don't need to say it, We are full of confidence, tenacity, ambition and swag, things you lack naturally, so are we surprised at your comments, No! That's typically what underachieving people do

    • @hopes9451
      @hopes9451 11 місяців тому

      ​@@barbarafadare9579😂😂😂😂there is nothing about you that makes anyone to stand up when you enter a room, except noise, not poise! Keep lying to yourselves like you say , giants😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @donaldmacdonald9993
    @donaldmacdonald9993 11 місяців тому +31

    A very balanced evaluation. South Africa is a subtle leader of the continent and I really like the way SA leads the continent, it is not in your face it always looks for consensus. Why are Nigerians so friendly in Nigeria but very aggressive and arrogant when they are outside their country?

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      Thank you for your comment.

    • @ROSALIA-e2e
      @ROSALIA-e2e 11 місяців тому

      Nigerian think conquer the world with this rubbish they are doing everwere smelling food mess with other country they must do their own corruption in Nigeria we welcome them they want to control were ever they are time is over for sa ons asmoog I wish one days all of them to leave

    • @THE_MILLENNIAL_AFRICAN
      @THE_MILLENNIAL_AFRICAN 11 місяців тому +1

      Because we receive hostility from our African brothers and sisters for just being Nigerian!
      It’s depressing to think that most of you just have stereotypes of us in your country and treat us exactly like an European would..
      Big shame.

    • @donaldmacdonald9993
      @donaldmacdonald9993 11 місяців тому

      @@THE_MILLENNIAL_AFRICAN Nigerians have themselves to blame with scams, shady businesses, drug dealing, human trafficking, I can mention a lot of other shady businesses they are doing in SA. Go to SA jails you will find Nigerians in huge numbers.

    • @nkululekongwenya1766
      @nkululekongwenya1766 11 місяців тому +8

      Fact! Nigerians in Nigeria are good friendly people, but the ones in other countries are horrible. It's something so strange to figure out

  • @Pilane892
    @Pilane892 11 місяців тому +3

    We don't care to compete with Nigeria as South Africa. Our developmenta goals are weell defined nationally and as members of multinational forums like BRICS and Nigeria features nowhere in our discourse. We will make our contribution to the development of Africa without competing with anyone - there's no need.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      You need to watch my reaction video on this matter. Thanks for sharing and hope you've subscribed

  • @alterlesego7780
    @alterlesego7780 11 місяців тому +5

    Me myself am surprised why jolloff guys flock 2 south Africa 😂

  • @aframaco9491
    @aframaco9491 11 місяців тому +18

    One can't argue or quibble with your paper analysis too much, because that's what it is !!
    It is all paperwork for certain!
    South Africa does start off with a near "first world" infrastructure from the nearly 370 years of European settlement in the country!
    And despite its previous apartheid policies , it had support from a great number of European countries in helping it build and retain its infrastructure over many decades!
    In fact there is no gainsaying that despite given up political power to Black South Africans, the whites still dominate and control the economy of South Africa!
    Fact!
    Also for various reasons and intentions, a huge Jewish, Asian and so called Coloured populations were allowed to thrive in South Africa!
    Leaving all that aside, Nigeria will NEVER do well on paper reports!
    And that is partially Nigeria's fault, as we ourselves fail to document a lot of our own processes and procedures!
    To put it shortly, Nigeria is missing out big time because of our inability to document ourselves and our modern existence!
    Nigeria for instance does not collect taxes from a great number of its citizens who earn income!!
    We only seem to focus on government workers and hoisting heavy bills on more reputable and established companies!
    From well diggers to roadside mechanics, to street corners vendors, to local cafeterias, none pay any viable tax to government!!
    Well none that the government can document for reference purposes!
    We need to man up and apply steely resolve to capture and document our taxes and duties as accrued!
    Property tax are rare for instance, and in a country where people pride themselves on building their own personal homes(often without mortgages)!
    So people are earning money without contributions into government coffers!!
    Nigeria is also very slow on touting the country as tourist destination!
    The potential is huge and it can be a viable alternative or additional option for great revenue!
    That also needs to be reformed as soon as possible!
    I can only agree that our style of governance even within the democratic process , still apes the myopic system of previous military regimes!
    We need to "exploit" democracy beyond elections, we need to begin to reap the benefits or dividends of democracy!
    But Nigeria is turning the corner, just like the presenter himself says, there has been movements of sorts in the past (most recent) 20 years!
    This ties in with the extent of time Nigeria became a democracy again since 1999.
    It is my belief that in another 20 years or so, Nigeria will tick more of the good points in the box!
    But as for the most influential country in Africa, I give that to Nigeria ANYDAY!!!
    Our vast population and its extensive diaspora across the world gives Nigerians untold leverage in this regard!
    Our movies, music and cuisine are now better known than South Africa's and gives us added relevance!
    Our Nigerian writers books have often featured on the school curriculums of many other African countries!
    Our various artworks of carvings, paintings and brass works of centuries old, grace some of the most famous and prominent museums of many countries of the world!
    Let me be clear, South Africa will always be a solid competitor for the most influential country in Africa, but we will always hold our own !
    Still we move!
    👊🏾🇳🇬👊🏾🇳🇬!

    • @InamMaqondose-ny8zf
      @InamMaqondose-ny8zf 11 місяців тому

      Love this from South Africa

    • @just_by_luck
      @just_by_luck 11 місяців тому +2

      Interesting" black owned" but yet their is no real benefit for an average Nigerian !
      Tell me which one is better for an average south African or Nigerian ?
      Because south African has
      1 . Better roads
      2.better airports and many but Nigeria has a larger population
      3. Better hospital
      4.better schools and universities
      5.free education
      6.electticity is better
      7.better infrastructure in general
      All of this are public services that average south Africans benifit from: not including social grants and old age grants grants for disabled and road accident funds
      Look at the geopolitics situation! South Africa is in BRICS ,G20 and everyone is interested in what we say and think ! I haven't heard anyone wanting to hear what Nigeria thinks !
      We are the best travel destinations in Africa Nigeria is not even in the top 10 .
      South Africa is the number 1 invester in Africa when it comes to other African countries!
      We just won the rugby world cup this is the 4th time !
      Cape town was voted as the most beautiful city in the world I mean miles ahead of any city in Nigeria
      South Africa has hosted rugby world cup,FIFA world cup, cricket world cup .
      We are the only country in africa manufacture and produce trains.
      Other than music ,movies and population their is nothing really because even if u take GDP u break it down to GDP per capita we better than u

    • @aframaco9491
      @aframaco9491 11 місяців тому

      @@just_by_luck Still white owned!
      You are merely regurgitating the same paper report as the presenter!
      All of it can be subjected to translation!
      China is not a member of the G7, but it stands only behind ( and threatens) America in terms of global influence!
      India , which is also in BRICS was for many years the poverty capital of the world!
      So these "weather reports" do not count for too much!
      As we speak there are still enclaves in South Africa that Black peoples can't visit let alone live in!
      Blacks are still being barred from restaurants and swimming pools!
      Most demeaning! And this is even happening in the supposedly most beautiful city of Cape Town!
      Of course I see that you are visually impressed by your white built South Africa!
      As a South African passport holder, you will be treated most differently from a white South African in many parts of Europe!!
      As for your country being more visited, that's all well and good!
      I as a Nigerian have a morbid fear of ever stepping foot in SA! I can't understand what my fellow Nigerians are doing there!
      Your "toyi-toyi" violent and vicious dancing mobs could be unleashed at any time.
      I never want to see that nonsense!
      But put it this way, two children from two households are watching tv!
      One is watching a big colour tv while another is watching a black and white tv!
      Yet the one watching the colour tv, is standing discreetly outside a window looking in into his neighbours house!
      But the one watching the black and white tv is seated comfortably in his own living room with his family all around him!
      Which child is going to grow up to be more confident and have more self worthiness?
      👊🏾🇳🇬👊🏾🇳🇬!

  • @afrikaborwanewschannel3214
    @afrikaborwanewschannel3214 11 місяців тому +7

    For me as a south african, i enjoyed your analyses, however i would like to see both this countries working together for the battement of this continent without competing.

    • @crisjoe6914
      @crisjoe6914 11 місяців тому +1

      ❤❤❤

    • @valentineisraelshabangu4069
      @valentineisraelshabangu4069 11 місяців тому

      Nigerians don't share same sentiments they love titles they are arrogant ppl so don't even start about this working together it will never stop forcing things.

    • @SANELEBOITSHEPHOMAPHALO
      @SANELEBOITSHEPHOMAPHALO 11 місяців тому

      How?
      Because their people are selling drugs in our country and killing our youth, they are killing the future of our country, yet you say we must work together🤷🏼‍♂🤷🏼‍♂

    • @nkazimulondlovu8056
      @nkazimulondlovu8056 11 місяців тому

      Nigerians are competing with South africa😂😂theyre in pain

    • @crisjoe6914
      @crisjoe6914 11 місяців тому +1

      @@nkazimulondlovu8056 when and how did we try to compete with you guys ??

  • @jayjay6239
    @jayjay6239 10 місяців тому +2

    It doesn't matter even if as South Africa we are number 10 on the list. The most important thing is to continue building this country for the next generation and restore the infrastructure that others try so hard to destroy.

  • @mixedtraveler3585
    @mixedtraveler3585 11 місяців тому +5

    Hi brother great channel and information. We as Africa need to unite and fight modern colonization.

    • @honordiamond2548
      @honordiamond2548 11 місяців тому

      Go and fight in your own ciuntry..... we don't have issues here🇿🇦

  • @Clintlesslort
    @Clintlesslort 11 місяців тому +13

    Im a Nigerian, your analysis is fair my brother, we will get there someday.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you... Truly appreciate your comment and hope you've subscribed

    • @KHWAHLAMBA
      @KHWAHLAMBA 11 місяців тому

      Never bro. Until you free your country from Neo colonial British mentality that define the modern Nigeria which is still controlled by Octogenarians while 70 percent are below 60. Rather forget and admit than fight just as the whole whole world is submitting to the springboks.wait for 100 yrs bro

    • @Clintlesslort
      @Clintlesslort 11 місяців тому +4

      @@KHWAHLAMBA Oh please stop! You that is living under a mordernized apartheid society is trying to lecture a truly free people on "colonial mentality." South Africans are a good example of modern-day slaves.
      Please don't make me write things that will make you consider suicide.
      "Never" is a word we Nigerians do not consent to, there is no limit to what we believe we can achieve. As I earlier stated, my brother's analysis is fair, we accept and appreciate where we are at the moment, and we are %100 convinced that we will get there someday, at least not in an apartheid society, at the end, we will beat our chest, and say, "everything we have built, we own"

    • @pump1180
      @pump1180 11 місяців тому +3

      @@Clintlesslortslaves? How so? Most of Nigerians lucrative markets are owned by the British and a few corrupt leaders 😅. The Nigerian people don’t own anything. At least in South Africa we build and own our own home grown companies that run our countries and lots of other African countries too

    • @kelugu3776
      @kelugu3776 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@pump1180Keep telling yourself that, boo. You don't even own most of your own land. Some Nigerians may be a bit delusional about how economically free they really are, but SAs are on another planet.

  • @tutonguni529
    @tutonguni529 11 місяців тому +11

    South Africa has more clout globally Nigeria is basically a failed state & has absolutely no clout in Africa

  • @emmanueldominic6219
    @emmanueldominic6219 11 місяців тому +13

    South Africa is not a true representation of Africa. South Africa is 6(% foreign and 35% Africa. They do not have much respect or value for West and East Africans. As a Nigerian, I have more respect for Ghana, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda than South Africa.

    • @ajewhiteajewhite
      @ajewhiteajewhite 11 місяців тому

      You are very correct

    • @sethkutoane2855
      @sethkutoane2855 11 місяців тому +13

      True, we don't need to be, we are unique like that, we don't fit in, we chart our own path

    • @sidahagarwal742
      @sidahagarwal742 11 місяців тому +4

      But South Africa standerd of living is far better than Nigeria

    • @thabo3866
      @thabo3866 11 місяців тому

      We really don't give a fvck about your respect

    • @dineomolapo9934
      @dineomolapo9934 6 місяців тому

      South Africa has 90% black Africans fact

  • @OKUHLEMZINYATHI100
    @OKUHLEMZINYATHI100 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm South African and we don't care about these things. We just want our government to work, reduce crime and dance to amapiano.

  • @muziwakhwekhoza9200
    @muziwakhwekhoza9200 11 місяців тому +4

    I'm a South African i love your content and comparison, because the 2 countries are best trading partners

  • @Youplant
    @Youplant 9 місяців тому +2

    I am Nigerian and it's a fair analysis brov. Keep it up

  • @valentineisraelshabangu4069
    @valentineisraelshabangu4069 11 місяців тому +4

    As the Chinese diplomat put it Britain (Nigeria) is not a competitor, is not an enemy but jut an important trade partner. We not in competition with them level of industrialization, Level of human development. Poverty ratio is not the same lets stop even comparing theres nothing to compare between SA and Nigeria

  • @rasachigayomah6389
    @rasachigayomah6389 Місяць тому +1

    Am glad now subscribe your UA-cam channel man with a radio voice good job done bro, keep on pushing

  • @mziwethumbotho3354
    @mziwethumbotho3354 11 місяців тому +7

    South Africa should not be compared to any country in Africa

    • @barbarafadare9579
      @barbarafadare9579 11 місяців тому +3

      Yes I agree, A European built and owned country, Oh yes!

    • @hlanganisambatha614
      @hlanganisambatha614 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@barbarafadare9579 still it's an insult to be compared to Nigeria

    • @barbarafadare9579
      @barbarafadare9579 11 місяців тому +1

      @hlanganisambatha614 Of course it is an insult! All of the business dealings my company in Nigeria had with South Africans, these South Africans were white, so it is an insult to be compared to the blacks because You guys are irrelevant in the grand skim of things! So I agree

    • @barbarafadare9579
      @barbarafadare9579 11 місяців тому +1

      @hlanganisambatha614 If it were the white people we are being compared to....ok, not you

    • @philizeed8938
      @philizeed8938 11 місяців тому

      @@hlanganisambatha614 love this

  • @xolisakoyana5763
    @xolisakoyana5763 11 місяців тому +11

    I love the video, my sir. As a proud South Ah, with Naija being the most traveled from country paints a grim image of what we think of our continent, we have fought through so many adversities however we do not have legacy planning, people boast about having the highest quality education but what has that done for your family, community, city, province, and country? I appreciate that no individual can change a whole land, having said that, we have a lot of art that we are showcasing to the rest of the world and it is at a standstill as they watch us flourish, with Amapiano and Afrobeats. it's good to dance but I refuse to believe that is only the handful of things we are good at as ABANTU. we no longer have a right to boast about past accolades; what are we doing and going to do as the land's current stewards. The old people are dying, the 65 to 100-year-olds, and they are leaving us with nothing, are we going to be foolish like them? They sold us out to save their families and friends. We are a people of innovators, inventors, and visionary thinkers, LET US BE THAT DREAM, we cannot be exporting people from the land when we have the ability to allow them to prosper but instead, we feed them to drugs and prostitution. THIS IS OUR LAND, this is how we should all feel about it. I am a South African before that I AM A CHILD OF THIS LAND.

    • @florarice592
      @florarice592 11 місяців тому

      Good insight, but when you feed them drug and prostitutions what do you mean about that? do you want to blame Nigerians for that? because you are always blaming everyone in your country, but you people do the worst,

    • @lozi4163
      @lozi4163 11 місяців тому +1

      Traveling? you confuse migration and travelling. most Nigerians don't afford to travel

    • @ayorinde5782
      @ayorinde5782 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@lozi4163 you are filled with hatred for Nigeria. You confuse migration with traveling. As it stands because of the population and bad economic condition in Nigeria. Nigeria is among the most travelled from country, that is not a good thing to be proud of anyway. However. You so much hate Nigeria that you refuse to use your head when reading things and responding.

    • @DavidOdusanya134.
      @DavidOdusanya134. 10 місяців тому

      ​@@lozi4163tell me ur a fool without telling me ur one 😂. Nigeria is ranked with the African nations with most purchasing power and the amount of Nigerians above poverty line are more than ur entire nation population 😂.

  • @alchemist001
    @alchemist001 11 місяців тому +4

    Toontum, I love what you are doing... good job! but it still remain that this stats site gives you old data, for example in 2023 nigeria military bugget is apr 2.5 billion dollars where sa keeps goind down yrealy now 3 billion dollars.

  • @caramelhoney9893
    @caramelhoney9893 11 місяців тому +2

    Try to compare us with Sadc countries they are much better in half of the things than Nigeria self

  • @godsanointed3397
    @godsanointed3397 11 місяців тому +35

    Good content no doubt; but you forget to tell us your audience that all the indices and advantages enjoyed by South Africa come from the White population of South Africa while the vices and disadvantages come from indigenous Black South Africans. Unlike its rival - Nigeria where everything starts and ends with its indigenous people. What if all the White population decides to move to its motherland in Europe, every advantage of South Africa will crumble like a pack of cards. Naija 🇳🇬 reigns supreme!

    • @peteruduevborho6939
      @peteruduevborho6939 11 місяців тому +8

      Yes a very point you made. Whilst the host has based his assessment on objective numbers there other factors which are necessary to be a true leader. Leader also requires soft skills like boldness, sacrifice, camaraderie and acceptance of leadership role. In all of these Nigeria has in the past played a great role in Africa. At moment the country is plagued with internal political and economic problems but without any doubt Nigeria's future looks bright and human capabilities too

    • @glitzbanulo
      @glitzbanulo 11 місяців тому

      There is so much bitterness written all over your comment. You are so bitter that the white South Africans used the South African resources to build South Africa whilst your own people squandered all the Nigerian resources and enriched themselves!

    • @samtislorh8529
      @samtislorh8529 11 місяців тому +8

      It's the typical Ghanian mindset against Nigerians and he's spewing out same bs as Sammy flex who is very pained by the success of the Nigerian entertainment industry

    • @InamMaqondose-ny8zf
      @InamMaqondose-ny8zf 11 місяців тому +31

      What are you talking about, every country in Africa was colonised, when Nigeria gained independence from Britain, the British (white) people left their infrastructure on the hands of the indigenous Nigerians, and it was then up to you to advance the given infrastructure on, but unfortunately the new black government in Nigeria lacked. Where as in South Africa between 1994(democracy) and till now (2023) South Africa’s new black government has taken up the responsibility of building up 60% of all infrastructure you see now in SA, so it has nothing to do with being white or black it has to do with responsibility of the government and unfortunately for Nigeria South Africa’s government(black ) does way more work than any other country on the African continent hans SA having the most infrastructure.

    • @brianmurathi3085
      @brianmurathi3085 11 місяців тому

      we r not barbaric we decided to live and work together to build this country since Mandela. This is a white man's world baby, they run Nigeria like a fuck while not living in it. wake up!!! Afrobeats, Nollywood....how helpful is that. Its a shame.

  • @SANELEBOITSHEPHOMAPHALO
    @SANELEBOITSHEPHOMAPHALO 11 місяців тому +2

    As a South African I want neither South Africa nor Nigeria to rule, we are perfect the way we are and the roles our countries play in the society are equally important and well recognised, but I still don't think Africa should have a ruling country.

  • @biggeststeppa1
    @biggeststeppa1 11 місяців тому +13

    There is no competition and there won't be one leader of any continent. Nigeria can't project power beyond its own borders and South Africa is mostly folding its arms and not doing much on the continent out of a need to build itself up. These are two countries in completely different stages of development. One can build entire tanks, missile systems, radar systems, full-size military drones, locomotives and BMWs - the other buys cars off Alibaba and calls them homemade.

    • @lozi4163
      @lozi4163 11 місяців тому

      what the f***k do you mean SA is folding its arms? do you even know what SA is doing for Africa? like there is no nation that has done what SA is doing for Africa and it continues to do so, son't just say things out of resentment and bitterness, speak from a position of research and reality

    • @davidenejo
      @davidenejo 11 місяців тому

      Nigeria build cars of it own,not assembly them,Nigeria supply electricity to noubouring countries, get ur fact right before talking rubbish.

    • @biggeststeppa1
      @biggeststeppa1 11 місяців тому +9

      @@davidenejo last I checked the cars were bought online from China and only 30% of Nigerians know what electricity is. Even then, that 30% experiences power for only ~4 hours a day.
      Patriotism is great, but base it on facts - for a country with 133 million people living in abject poverty, no access to basic services or education Nigerians are very mouthy.
      Just fyi, 133 million of you live in extreme poverty, 210 million live in poverty and the rest are supposedly middle class and up - but not enough for even Mazda to establish a presence there.
      SA and Naija are at very different stages of development. Get over it. But Niger is there so you guys can compare notes. I think Ghana is much farther ahead of you guys so don't bother them.

    • @menzimngadi6793
      @menzimngadi6793 11 місяців тому

      Period

    • @FictionHubZA
      @FictionHubZA 11 місяців тому

      The reason why South Africa doesn't do much intervention is because the government doesn't want to.

  • @ramasodimalete2699
    @ramasodimalete2699 11 місяців тому +2

    I respect Nigeria it is honestly a Giant in Africa. Together we can do more. Nigeria's people are respecable because despite your difficult history the nation stands tall.
    As a saffer, i will tell you that we are interested in developing Africa and South Africa. We have problems too, especially corruption. All these problems are our concern. We couldn't care less about titles.

  • @khanyisanimhlamvu
    @khanyisanimhlamvu 11 місяців тому +3

    This comparison is not wrong, it didn't come out of a negative point of view like some try to make it to look like

  • @discoveryonthego2539
    @discoveryonthego2539 11 місяців тому +2

    Nigeria remains a big brother in africa ....there are a number of african and non african nations that have been on our beneficiary list for decades ....we have the strength of more than one nation ....and in no time we will contain all the preasures they exert on us and earn our well deserved flower.....its green white and green to the marrows.🇳🇬

    • @Marysmmiiith
      @Marysmmiiith 10 місяців тому +1

      That is what you people are always saying! But your obsession with South Africa is disturbing

    • @Marysmmiiith
      @Marysmmiiith 10 місяців тому

      Your strength is in your arrogance! You are blinded to the truth by pride

  • @inftravels
    @inftravels 11 місяців тому +6

    These statictics are created from a western view or perspective on Africa, I think from an African view Nigeria would at least be the second most influential if not the first in Africa.

    • @Jay-rd3hn
      @Jay-rd3hn 11 місяців тому +1

      Seriously 😒!!!

    • @nmg1909
      @nmg1909 11 місяців тому

      Isn't SA economy control by the Afrikaans?

    • @lozi4163
      @lozi4163 11 місяців тому

      Nigeria is not more influential than SA, Egypt and Morocco, from 2023 they not even in top 10. When stats don't favour you, you complain but same western agent when they put you first, you glorify them, Nigerians are underachievers and you are use to people who kiss ass bracing you'll for nothing when reality say's something else. Nigeria is a glorified loser hence most Africans are not migrating to Nigeria but almost all Africans have Nigerian migrants simply because everywhere is better than Nigeria

    • @nkazimulondlovu8056
      @nkazimulondlovu8056 11 місяців тому +2

      SA has always been influencial 😊...remember music is not the only measure ....besides music what else yall have

  • @limpopoRiver
    @limpopoRiver 10 місяців тому +1

    Dear South Africans its our duty and responsibility to comment on the gazetted department of home affairs white papers. Our immigration, refugee act, asylum seekers etc need an overhaul amendment.....lets come out in our numbers to comment on the white, it can be done in all 11 official languages. Its high time we put our energy on protecting our country. Amandla!!!

  • @joye5761
    @joye5761 11 місяців тому +4

    What is this obsession with Nigeria 🇳🇬 and Nigerians, from presidents, to politicians , to entertainers, influencers, Academians etc everybody wants to dissect what it is to be a Nigerian, what makes us who and what we are. There is always a topic about Nigerians within Africa and outside Africa. You guys should give us a rest for once just once, we don’t care to compete with anybody we know who and what we are and that is how it has always been and will always be, WE MOVE.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      I don't think you watch the podcast. It's not just comparing but showing how each of these countries can improve. Thanks for your opinion

    • @joye5761
      @joye5761 11 місяців тому +1

      @@toontumnetwork oh I did watch it ☺️ my point is we got where we are as NIGERIANS on our own by ourselves, we don’t want nor desire to be analyzed, dissected or put under a microscope in any manner or form by external bodies. We get all the hate, comparisons, jealousies from within and without and though we have never been bothered about it, it gets tiring to being talked about by ALL. We have always known our priorities as a people and WHO WE ARE, our leaders are far from perfect but WE WILL GET IT RIGHT.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      @@joye5761 well noted and thanks for watching

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      @@joye5761 well noted and thanks for watching

    • @AfriPrincess411
      @AfriPrincess411 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@joye5761these people like this Ghanaian dude spend more time talking about Nigeria than their own damn countries. Its so annoying and they always speak about Nigeria with malice. If we Nigerians are so terrible, focus attention elsewhere! Goodness.

  • @valentineisraelshabangu4069
    @valentineisraelshabangu4069 11 місяців тому +2

    Nigeria is obsessed with titles give them number 1

  • @Anifundom
    @Anifundom 10 місяців тому +2

    I like the comments my south african brothers are posting like they said we really dont care about giant what-what of the continent we just want better lives & peace😊🙏

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  10 місяців тому

      Right and I appreciate all those comments.

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 10 місяців тому +1

      All this African failed nations of beggars are hating black South Africans for the lives they have in their own country forcing themselves on them mxm. Just wait for mass deportation to take place in SA you will se how all this ungrateful creatures will cry

  • @mthokozisigumbi4783
    @mthokozisigumbi4783 11 місяців тому +10

    Honestly we as South Africans dnt care about the giant of Africa "contest" Nigeria can take it, we have 50% of our people still living under the poverty line mostly being the people of color, particularly blacks and the idea that South African blacks are lazy and are too depended on the government is so unrealistic and foolish, for the government to function properly it has to be held accountable by the people who brought it into power and if you cannot understand....it simply means you are in a disfunctional partnership with your own government "disclaimer"South Africa is far from being perfect but many platforms have been created for any african to make it South Africa....yes its still not easy its but possible

    • @mthokozisigumbi4783
      @mthokozisigumbi4783 11 місяців тому

      *for any African to make it in South Africa.

    • @mthokozisigumbi4783
      @mthokozisigumbi4783 11 місяців тому

      *still not easy but possible.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      Thanks my brother... Your comment truly appreciated and hope you've subscribed

    • @adeyemilambo
      @adeyemilambo 11 місяців тому

      You're on point, though am from Nigeria, have watched a documentary on South Africa where citizen was complaining that d foreigners were taking the job that belong to them, I was so surprise that sa citizen can make such statement, if sa citizen are industrious no one can take your place,

    • @lozi4163
      @lozi4163 11 місяців тому +2

      Were you get your stats? do you know what is under poverty line? SA has 55.5% of upper bond poverty line, do you even know what that means? that is a standard of a nation that is developing, not third world standard like Nigeria. Upper bond poverty Line will be considered a solid middle class in countries like Nigeria. There is no data suggesting that SA has 50% of people living under poverty line, that's insane and only a person who is not well informed will type such. SA would have lost its status of been an upper middle income nation, it wouldn't even make sense. From world bank statistics, we have 23% of poverty rate as of 2022 and not under poverty or abject poverty but just poverty. The statistics on world bank comes from stats SA, keep in mind, SA measures a poor person by living below $4.8 a day while the rest of Africa uses $1.8 a day, so already even our standards to measure poverty are very high. What we usually call poverty in SA will be a low middle income in Nigeria and our stats disregard people in informal settlements while African governments consider people in informal settlement employed

  • @boxhd5686
    @boxhd5686 11 місяців тому +2

    Also mention that South Africa is has 4 world Cups

  • @sakhephikhanyile6544
    @sakhephikhanyile6544 11 місяців тому +7

    SA❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤uuuuuuuuuuu

  • @tawiahansen4108
    @tawiahansen4108 11 місяців тому +2

    I am a Ghanaian and I am glad to hear most South Africans do not care about being giant of Africa. SF have their own issues to deal with. I don’t think SF is even ready or Nigeria for that matter. A great leader of Africa must be smart and know what they are doing. They must not be influenced by external powers and all that so for me those to countries cannot be even though you are looking at their economy, land etc.

    • @toontumnetwork
      @toontumnetwork  11 місяців тому

      Thanks for sharing your thought and hope you've subscribed

    • @kelugu3776
      @kelugu3776 10 місяців тому

      I agree. Libya deserved that title before it was destroyed. Probably why it was destroyed.😢