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Why was South Africa included in BRICS and not Nigeria
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- in this video, I discussed some of the reasons why Why was South Africa included in BRICS and not Nigeria
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SA has a long standing relations with Russia. In 1997, SA was one of the 1st few countries in the world to severe relations with Taiwan for China. SA is a member of IBSA. To have a seat at the big table , a country has to work hard by networking , you dont just feel entitled because you are the most populated country in the continent. Geo-politics needs presence of mind and clarity of purpose.
True. BRICS was started in South Africa. When the delegation of South Africa went to Brazil and India to meet to establish an organization that can give developing nations a voice to the world, it became as IBSA then China and Russia joined to become BRICS.
South Africans even though their economic system is in the hands of whites. But when it comes to political systems, it's a champion.
Imagine what they can do with an economic system when it's in their hands.
@@siohonelson9078 The economy shall soon be in the hands of Africans,, ANC is on its way out . ANC has failed blacks very badly .
Well said.
Not many will pleased with your response.
@@siohonelson9078what do you mean BRICS started in South Africa. Brics was formed in 2001. South Africa only joined in 2010.
Let's admit south Africa is the direction of Africa period and a blessed country 😊
A Revolutionary nation. It's a voice of Africa.
It's not a debate
You mean a country controlled by Germany
@@Emeritus63s s/a will never be the direction of africa, know this and know peace
@@jyde50 Well it is
There's no way Nigeria can lead Africa. Although am from Ghana, I will 100% vote for South Africa to lead this continent. 👍
Ghanaian are always Jealous of Nigerians. This is why Nigerians are more better and going to the global chat.. Jealousy will soon Kill all you in Ghana. In case if you don't known we Nigerians don't see any particular reason in our life...
We’re talking about BRICS you’re talking about leading the continent… they’re two different things. You people think BRICS is some important union uh? Lol BRICS is a joke and Nigeria doesn’t join joke organizations. I’m also Ghanaian and I would have been disappointed in Nigeria if they had joined BRICS. Naija if you know them very well they don’t join organizations that are against the West since the time they gained independence.
@@goldboateng8073 you may have a point my brother. However, BRICS as an economic bloc will have more pros than cons to the participating States. Apparently, aside francophone States, Nigeria is one of the reasons why ECOWAS is less performing. You remember their policy of halting export of rice from other member countries whilst ECOWAS hold a principle of free movement of persons and goods. They're too nationalistic and not that opened to international affairs as compared to South Africa.
Then go and cast your vote.
@@Free_Africaow open is your country to Nigeria? Because the last time I checked, banning of foreign rice doesn't include ECOWAS countries.
You lot are only good at looking down on Nigeria as Nigeria is restricting your success.
West Africa countries are benefiting from Nigeria oil subsidy and Nigeria contributed 90% of Africa development bank that has benefit ECOWAS members.
Russia, China and South Africa have been friends before you were even born! Russia and China supported the ANC military with training and weaponry to topple the apartheid regime. Both countries played a significant role in liberation.
South Africa is a co founder. Nigeria is a British company. The president is just a manager of the company. As a Nigerian I hope someday we will have a President of Nigeria, not a manager of British company called Nigeria president 🇳🇬🇿🇦
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Thank you, you are one of the honest who also see clearly
Gbam
Drop mic...!😅
You say Nigeria is a big country in Africa, but it has nothing to show for it...
The size of Nigeria is smaller than that of South Africa though they have the biggest population
@@senzosolomon7732yohhhh that’s why they are fleeing out every second shme, yohh it’s much it probably looks like Belleville chaos 😂
Dangote Refinery
@@thembi9645 jealousy is killing you other Africans
South Africa is 30% bigger than Nigeria
The Nigerian economy is currently worth 451 billion dollars and must be shared by 218 million people
The South African economy is worth 400 billion dollars which is shared by 60 million people.
What this means is that even in terms of economic size, SA is much bigger in terms of per capita which is a better measure of an economy. You are also correct SA has a highly diversified economy and the most elaborate banking system in the world it's banks consistently being the most sophisticated in the world. It's going to take time for Nigeria to develop the systems which will allow it to be industrialised and developed like SA but their growing economy is a good start. One country that may join even before Nigeria is Kenya because of the rate of development and industrialisation that the country is going through. Egypt is the next most industrialised country after SA and they may be able to join quicker too
True true and true
Egypt should not be allowed to join but Saudi Arabia (gdp us$1.7tn ) would be better in BRICS+
The lions share of south Africa's GDP is accumulated and shared by the few, mostly white settlers and corporations which is why it holds the title of the most unequal country in the world. While Nigeria currently lacks pronounced banking systems and is not as formal when it comes to finances, that is not a big issue and is quickly overlooked when anyone looks at just the raw potential that Nigeria posses. Nigeria is already industrialized to a decent level on par with other african countries and this will only accelerate given its favorable situation where infrastructure, funding, demographics, culture and stability is on an upward trend. south africa has always had a head start due to its settler colony status but that is rapidly diminishing not only to Nigeria but to other african countries in general as it stagnate. the issue is nigerias sheer size and geography makes it a juggernaut and it holds huge potential, so as someone who is looking in from the outside, nigeria is a best bet because good investors and people with foresight invest early.
@@banks6591that's not how GDP work's. Is not a racial thing, when they say GDP Per Capita, they divide by population not race
@@banks6591black South Africans hold way more wealth than Nigerians even then there are 220million Nigerians while we are 48million, if what you said was true, we wouldn't be richer than you'll and keep in mind, the total wealth of Nigeria is just $228B to which is shared by Lebanon folks , Indians, Chinese and some Europeans and this is not spoken much. You should do more research before you use opinions to try to band reality. There is a reason why Nigerians are flocking to live in SA in numbers and you yet to find a South African who is interested to live in Nigeria
South Africa has more political influence in Africa than Nigeria. South Africa pushes the pan African agenda more. Nigeria is a british company, heavily influenced by West. The moment Nigeria moves away from the west, Africa would never remain the same. Nigeria would make a huge impact in influencing Africa more dan South Africa
Pipe dreams 😂😂😂😂
BRICS needs serious and committed members not just a country who only brag without any meaningful outcome.
Lmao, So who is bragging without meaningful outcome
@@trayway3014 Giants 🙄
@@Bbb-ml4gb😂😂😂😂
That's tough. 😂 Say it again for those seating at the back. 😂
Yet 80% of your lands belong to Europeans 😂😂😂
My brother South Africa was not included in BRICS we are part of the founding members.
Don't lie , we were invited to Join in 2010, it started as Bric in the year 2001 and then when South Africa was invited in the year 2010 that is when it became to be known as Bricks
True. BRICS is doing great now everybody is having their own analysis
True. BRICS is doing great now everybody is having their own analysis
Nigeria is not a functioning state at the moment. Nothing really works there. Currently, South Africa is in its worst state since the end of Apartheid, and yet even in this current state, it functions 100 times better than Nigeria. Very few South Africans would willingly move to Nigeria, yet most Nigerians wouldn’t mind moving to South Africa is an opportunity presents itself.
Keep deceiving your self, i know you are one of those poor SA who can't even afford a ticket to another country, the clever SA are running away, go to Nigeria and see SA citizen everywhere, but you will never see us announcing it
Just imagine ecowas bloc receiving an invitation to a summit to elect a strong person like the African President? Those ecowas thugs will collude to elect one of them and Africa will be a laughing stock again 🤔🤔🤔That region must be rid of western puppets to have a fresh start/smell/serious posture. How can you in 2023 raise an army of 230,000 in order to be an oppressor’s tool for your neighbour/brother trying to free themselves from economic/political bondage?? (please rise Niger the colonial master’s dogs next door are barking mad but you’ve friends around in shining armour )
SA dont have the money to travel, if not their poor people would have travel in millions
@@florarice592 we actually travel and SA has more black millionaires compared to te rest of Africa sweety
@@florarice592 How can South Africans not have money to travel, just look at these simple examples, an average salary of a school teacher in Nigeria is 194 000 naira per month, an avarage salary of a school teacher in south africa is the equivalent of 860 000 naira per month, a senior citizen in south africa gets a social welfare grant of the equivalent of 260 000 naira per month, an unemployed person in south africa gets a social welfare grant of the equivalent of 69 000 per month, that is in addition to free housing, access to free top notch medical facilities.
Nigeria will never be like South Africa
How is Nigeria influential when your president was sleeping there in France, we all heard who can speak for Africa.
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😂😂😂 The Nigerian President, TINUBU, has a drugs related court case in the US. He has also presented fake certificate from a US University. He is a 419 president.
You win on this one , yes our president was sleeping, but he will be back on is feet again
@@benbo7042😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@florarice592when ? And what about your former Presidents who did nothing to take Nigeria out of poverty, you have the greatest number of people living below the poverty line in the whole world followed by indi😮a
I don't like the "instead " part . I would like to know if Nigeria did apply for the Membership and they were snubbed ? All im sensing sounds like "jealousy " of some sort ...I maybe wrong though . Im trying to gage your sentiments but im failing . Why is it that some Nigerians likes competing with South Africa whilst South Africans don't view Nigerians as their competition let alone to think about Nigeria .Is it because of the countries are on the same continent ? South Africans don't like competing with another human beings they like collaborations. Oh they also like minding their own business too
Nigeria has this delusion that they are better than SA and should have been considered instead of SA
@@marshathomas6422No you using wrong words, people who are naturally infirior to you can't think the better than you, you making it sounds delusional. They don't think they bette then us, the reason they act the way they do is because naturally they feel like they are lesser than us which in reality is true
@@marshathomas6422while they are busy minding our business, we are busy behind the scenes working hard to improve our circumstances, without competing with ANYONE. We mind our business, fix our issues, work with those who are honest and like minded like us . All these accolades SA gained from a BLACK government which started at zero economy in 1994.😊
Always ....envy level100000
@@hopes9451 Their competing culture is an abnormality to our collaboration based culture . Ive realized that they like competing even amongst themselves . What I dont like is when they are projecting those ideologies on our lives ...I wonder why because we are not even their neighbours .They should compete with Cameroon ,Togo ,Ghana and others and just forget that we even exists . We don't spent much time trying to be better than them or envying what they do .
Instead of trying to compete with South Africa why don't you work with South Africa to UNITE the whole Continent of Africa
They seem to think that if SA is involved then they should be admitted too,it's the strangest thing because there's 54 countries in Africa and most of them are not this obsessed with SA 🇿🇦.There are many country wanting to join BRICS and nigeria should apply as well and that's the end of the matter.
Exactly!
They feel entitled period, and i dont know why. As what, giants of africa maybe😂😂😂???
@@Svig Nigeria being deemed as "The Giant of Africa " is in the context of its population. That's about it.
Cause whites own their country
South Africa has much more influence in Africa than Nigeria. Nigeria is too focused on their internal problems. And I believe there is a sense that Nigeria is still under foreign control
South Africa is under more foreign control than Nigeria ever was and will ever be. Nigeria played the kind of independent influence and power in the liberation of Zimbabwe and South Africa, that South Africa would never be able to. Let me give you a few open example. A) South Africa was forced to support the unAfrican and antiAfrican homosexual agenda of the US at the United Nations, where Nigeria was the first country to tell the Anglican Church that Africa would never accept such nonsense 20 years ago. B) South Africa is stuggling to say that it will not arrest President Vladmir Putin when he comes to the BRICS summit in Johannesburg next month, Nigeria wrecked the 1976 Montreal Olympics in Canada, when it led the African walkout of the Olympic village over the support South Africa was receiving from the white Wester countries. c) South Africa has never stood up against Western imperialism in the DRC, some say Nelson Mandela was in cahoots with the US on the issue, Nigeria arm-twisted Margaret Thatcher into holding the Lancaster House conference that led to the independence of Zimbabwe, rather than recognising the bullshit Zimbabwe-Rhodesia of Ian Smith and Abel Muzorewa.
Yeah , internal problems that started with Shell killing Nigerians
Also Nigerians love their colonizers. They leave the continent and go and stay abroad. It's always their main goal
@zilindogomes1767. Nigeria has more influence in terms of culture and music but more notoriety in regards scams. The last one has negatively affected innocent Nigerian citizens ( a significant minority ) as all things done wrongly and rightly are ascribed to Nigerians. With around 220 million citizens ( most populous African country ) the odds are stacked high against it as it easily eclipses other nations in widely traveled and entrepreneurial people.
When the situation stabilises in Nigeria, with leaders that care for the youth, it's going to be an economic juggernaut.
@@africanadage852 to be honest, I am rooting for Nigeria to be on top. It makes much more sense. I agree with you, the soft power of nigeria when it comes to music and business attitude is beyond words to me. I have spoken to people in Nigeria and I have noticed that they work at least 10 times harder than other countries in Africa. I dont subscribe to the scamming thing. White people have beem scamming us for centuries and we are still running to their countries and marrying their people. But I believe that since they have such an huge number of people and lots of resources, they deserve to be on top. Furthermore as a panafricanist, in order for Africa to prosper, we need the Giant of Africa Nigeria to be running at normal speed, we need DR Congo infinite resources to be under control of their own people and we need a much more stronger Ethiopia. This would make all the other countries to develop, turning Africa into a respectable continent
ANC has a long history with Russia goes back many years, some of the African National Congress leaders study in Russia and Cuba
If u know the history of Cuba, Russia, and Angola, and the struggle of ANC u will understand
Thank you for sharing this. I also mentioned the point about Russia history with ANC briefly in my previous video about why SA joined BRICS. Your comment is appreciated.
No that is not the issue, Nigeria has a long history with Russia. Angola has a longer and deeper history with Russia. Ethiopia has an even longer and deeper history with Russia. South Africa was invited because it has the most diverse and resilient economy in Africa. That is all
Thank you, answer is a light on this generation... people don't know where we are coming from...
South Africa have always been friends with China and Russia and we share political ideology unlike Nigeria
Nigeria is not a massive country, it’s just overpopulated.. as for influence in the continent? what is the influence exactly?
At BRICS they don't deal with drug dealers😂😂😂
What do you mean by that ???
You just degenerated, your mind it’s actually your downfall hence you type like you suffer from diarrhoea. I am South African 🇿🇦by the way and this has nothing to do with what clouds your mind but we are discussing mature topics now.
@@marcusdavidson5776 Nigeria is a drug dealing and financial fraud perpetrating country
@@marcusdavidson5776It means what it means,drugs drugs drugs.
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Nigeria has unstable politics and unrelisble systems and lots of internal conflicts. Nigeria goes through many unresolved human rights problems, such as abduction of school girls, which reflects poorly on the capacity to contain religious fanstics and terrorists. South Africa has always been punching above its weight, so to speak.
these people are comparing south africa with nigeria but nigerians are packed in south africa
just like SA are packed in uk., ireland, Korea, Nigeria, those are clever SA
They are many factors that were considered in including South Africa as part of BRIC member compared to Nigeria and some you have mentioned but we can start by mentioning that it has nothing to do with population because if that would have been the case Nigeria would have been easily considered but SA boast excellent infrastructure, its established corporate footprints, a culture of innovation, easy access to finance for business, a stable macro and micro financial climate, an advanced banking system, and functioning regulatory frameworks. Not to forget that South African currency is as the considered to be emerging market currencies.
loadshedding is not excellent infrastructure.
@@jyde50 and Nigeria doesn't have load shedding right and has the best roads.
@@jyde50And Nigeria doesn't have power cuts? You just had power cuts at your International Airport just the other day last month.
@@Mikeeassay Nigeria does not have electrical infrastructure to begin with.
As @Mikeeassay has said South Africa meets more international standards than Nigeria. Another factor is that the South African economy is very important not to just the SADC region (Southern African Development Community) but also to Central Africa and to some extent East Africa. South Africa also has an established manufacturing base, they are more educated and on average are wealthier than Nigerians.
🎉Nigerians love competing with South Africa and South Africans just just don't care.
Nigeria find someone to play with
NO body is competing with S/A nobody is trying to have 10 hours loadshedding
@@jyde50 yet your brothers dont wanna go back home ... ask yourself why
@@kamogelomakubetsa2451 when s/a talk "go back home", you will think 50% of the population in s/a is Nigerian, even thought they are not up to 50,000 in the last count out of 200million Nigerians, its hilarious
@@jyde50 life is so much better in SA that all of Africa prefer to experience 10 hours loadshedding in SA than stay in they countries, we also offer free health care to all Africans, did you know?
@@ichoosegodfromnowon847 80% of black south africa live in shacks.
Also South Africa 🇿🇦 is way more developed in terms of infrastructure and the its financial institutions
That's true brother.
South Africa has a bigger and better economy. That is just the truth
75% of the land is owned by whites
@@dimbwemazala8978 yes south africa has bigger economy because if your economy is smaller than its miraculously bigger, i get it.🤣🤣🤣
Own by the white people, how many of this company are own by blacks?
Pls don't say this nonsense. South Africa is really doing well up there more than Nigeria. If Nigeria is to lead Africa I myself as a Nigeria will vote against it. Our people are so corrupt to the extent that is affecting the country too much. We need reliable people to Lead Africa from Africa
Why my sister 🤣🤣
True, sometimes for the sake of progress you must leave behind sentiments and stick to the truth
Nigerian government has got no framework for good governance and policies compared to SA. For starters their nationals don't even have ID's from birth. SA has got a system that keeps track of its people from birth to death, every department can access ones details seamlessly up to banking system, health, social security, etc. It's got a sophisticated system, that's why criminals can be easily tracked as long as they are registered/documented: including those with fake fraudulent SA papers.
The brics is actually against the USA economy which is fighting against the dollar. All countries with Brics are against the dollar and us monopolies, and Nigeria was and is not against the USA partnership at that time. So your reason is wrong sir..
Your are right.
100% correct sir
BRICS MUST NOT STAND IN AFRICA SOIL, let them go else where
But you want join Brics? Let's wait and see on this one
Nigeria is a big country but politically is powerless
Wrong absolutely wrong
@@kevinemmanuel8525which part is wrong?
Big in population but the country is small let's be factual here
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Nigeria is not in top 10 of big countries in Africa but SA is. SA is 30% bigger than Nigeria
Nigeria is not chosen because she is more of a begging nation, very unstable without international clout compared to South Africa.
Also if you look at historical history all those countries have a long history and relationships going way back. The way you posed your question "why South Africa was included instead of Nigeria"
That’s exactly what I don’t understand about this video ,,, like why are we actually having this conversation
@@senzosolomon7732 they believe they are leader's "Giants"
They are very insecure considering how irrelevant Nigeria is even on the continent. Their citizens are forever migrating to live in other African countries
@@Bbb-ml4gb Well give them that title "Giants", we as South Africans don't need it and will never need it even in future. All that we are interested on is to further develop in all fields.
The most important fact is that South African economy is the most advanced economy in Africa...
My thoughts is that joining BRICS is a sacrifice. You're directly standing up against western countries. Many African countries aren't willing to do that. Joining BRICS means prioritizing trade within BRICS first not the West. This rubs western countries the wrong way, hence you always see their negativity towards SA.
It's also a matter of building relationships and diversity. We had Indian, Russian and Chinese people move to SA even before Apartheid. During Apartheid, Chinese People were labeled 'black' and were hated by the miniority rule government, even to this day, Chinese South Africans are still 'black' upon their own request. After coming to power, some African countries, such as Uganda, allowed their emotions to get the better of them and were hateful towards their Indian community, SA chose to forgive and move on. This also helped to built trust with India and to show that there is no bad blood.
The black South Africans were strategic with the manner in which they leveraged relationships. Even during Apartheid, black leaders would travel the world, building relationships with other countries. They believed that Apartheid would end, and planned an economy after Apartheid.
Lastly, South Africa has a policy of never taking sides during wars. We're always on the side of peaceful resolutions even if the country at war is an ally. This helps to keep both countries as your friend even after the 7:31 war.
one of the most lucid answers on here...SA is playing the long game. Even now ppl say take back the land riling Black SAns up...and none came to save Zim wheren Bit and US f%!ed them over when Black Zimbabweans took back the land by force. The land will be claimed back but it will be done stealthily or you f£! everyone...Mandela was no angel but he knew how fine the balancing act needed to be. he gifted SA with no right out enemies...even though we know the US and their minions UK, France, Germany et al wish to keep us semi developed and poor
South Africa is way bigger and better than Nigeria in many ways, thats why South Africa was included. Nigeria was never on the table, even if South Africa didnt exist. And do not forget, South Africa is more influential Than Any other African country..
Insightful points. Thank you for this contribution.
True
South Africa is not more influential than Nigeria, you black SA are full of your self and why will Nigeria Join brics, Instead of Africa to form Africa union and move forward , You SA are trying to Join Brics so you can control Africa right
Why do you always have to insert Nigeria in everything, You could have sad Why South Africa instead of the rest of Africa.
Because if you dont put Nigeria no one watch the channel
Nigerians are the ones always comparing themselves to South africans, and honestly we will keep saying this, South Africans generally just mind their business and keep their opinions.
South Africa is a power house bro. Don't even dream of Nigeria being a leading country, rather think of Ghana still it can't stand SA
Shut up SA can never lead Africa because SA is control by white so it can never be possible all Africa country we never agree for south Africa to lead
Nigeria doesn't think about some outcast slave black South Africans 🤣🤣🤣
The way you questioned why not Nigeria but South Africa?? Clearly u have chest pains...
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Nigerians you guys like getting the spotlight by downplaying South Africa
1)What if your reasons are all wrong
2)what if nigeria did not even ask to join bricks back then cause they saw no investment opportunities in BRICS
3)Now BRICS is about to launch new currency of exchange you feel like S.A should not even be there
come on guyz you should wish good things for other people too🤣🤣🤣
They must stop entertaining themselves with this obsessed content, it's sickening, and not good for unity.
Why on earth will BRICS nations want Nigeria as a member? You make it sounds like they were dying to get Nigeria. Nigeria is liability, they have applied recently and I doubt they will be approved. Nigeria is a sh*thole is not about them applying but does BRICS even want them
The point is that SA is a launching pad into the entire continent. Next month more African countries will be joining BRICS. There's Egypt, Gambia, Algeria to name a few. More countries from other continents have applied as well
Very true.
Ethiopia 🇪🇹 has formally applied to join BRICS as well.
That is meaningless, in fact Ramaphosa tried to use that position to milk the rest of Africa, with his bullshit suggestion that all Africans given their dollars to South Africa, and South Africa would then negotiate with Russia over supplies of fertiliser. Everybody looked at him as if he is crazy. Each African country can talk to Russia by itself. Many African countries produce their own fertiliser
They have applied but doesn’t mean they will get approved
@@IamAfrikanso why making your nonsense video. Leave Nigeria 🇳🇬 alone and face your lives. Why are other African countries always disturbing us ?. We don't bother you people
South Africa is more pan Africa, and stand against Europe and America but not Nigeria, Nigeria got her independent very cheap.😮
yea, but paid handsomely for the independence of South Africa, Namibia and Zimbabwe. go back and ask EX-Prez Thambo Mbeki to verify this assertion here.
Yet you are killing black Africa in your country, shame
@@florarice592 says who, one of those who claimed we had it cheaply? I woulda luv to take u more seriously, but I just can't. no doubt Nigeria is going thru a tough patch, but we are not killing Black Africa has you alluded to. its far more complex than you can fathom, am sure.
@@florarice592 blame Islam and Christianity for the killings in Nigeria
@@kolapoanimashaun You are killing black Africa , chasing them away, it open,it is on the media , you black SA are very negative people
Nigeria is a giant of poverty Google it .
India
@@Ayo-kr4kf nope Nigeria took over from India as poverty capital of the whole world.
@@hopes9451 whatever. Nigeria is the only giant of Africa. Know that and know peace
More envy by Nigerians. If you can explain why there are millions of illegal Nigerians in South Africa, and there are zero legal and illegal South Africans in Nigeria, you have your answer
@dimbwemazala8978 Be nice cousin. They should just admit that generally SADC is very clear on policy and well endowed in minerals, therefore has a lot to offer trade wise.
@@lebo5281 They already know this
@dimbwemazala8978 They really should leave us alone because we bother no one. We never even compare ourselves with others.
@@lebo5281 yep.. that is why I said "envy"
@dimbwemazala8978 Yep. It's as if they were lied to that they were the best in Africa in everything yet, the most silent region keeps proving them wrong without making any noise. Every odd day one country gets compared to the "giant" 😭
Truly speaking RoSA is the most influential country in Africa to the world. you will Crack your head trying to think why RoSA and not nigeria, nigeria is notorious not famous or popular, yes maybe in the west Africa region not around the world
South Africa has a bigger and better economy. Stop sugar coating the facts. Nigeria just like all attention to be on them, but we do not want to talk about Nigiria, as they say it
South Arica has no influence. Nigeria has cultural influence in the sense that most Africans have a fraternal love for Nigeria and its people. We may speak different languages, but Nigerians exhibit and exude African values. South Africans despise other Africans, and think that they are the black Americans of Africa, as if such a condition is advantageous in any sense. Nigeria has stood at the cross roads of important African political cross roads, and has never once betrayed the African agenda. Africans can trust the wisdom of the Nigerian government, but Africans understand that they follow and trust South Africa at their own peril. Nigeria does not need qualification in this regard, and its heritage is well known and has been long lived by Africa. On the other hand, Julius Malema, the dangerous political opportunist from South Africa, led a protest to the Uganda Highcommission in South Africa against the gay legislation Uganda recently passed. In that political position, Malema represented the universal political view in South Africa. The lesson here is that we know and can trust Nigeria; we do not know, and have to be careful with South Africa, lest we have to pull knives from deep out of our own backs
@@lisolomzimakabane It is the truth
@@dimbwemazala8978 🤣🤣🤣, i can't believe i read and finished your lengthy script about South Africa. Well, if it makes you feel good and sleep at night good for you.
In South Africa we move, yes we have our problems but we are paitriots. We love SA and will never run away from its problems.
@@dimbwemazala8978are you well in the head? Where have you seen this resounding love for Nigeria in the continent? It would be cool if it was true but wow, you’re off something
Its purely because SA has more gold. Way more gold. The BRICS currency is supposed to be gold backed or oil ?😂😂😂
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Plus it's GDP was bigger than Nigeria at one point
African countries should all join,I think South Africa was a ticket for all our sister countries to participate in bricks
Another reason why South Africa is part of the BRICS nations, it's that Nigeria was first offered to join it but turned down the offer Nigeria relies too much on the West.
When was the offer😂? You apply not given on silver platter..
But you are right about relying on West
Exactly, you apply😂😂. It really buffles me why these ppl feel entitled. As what????
Nah
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SAna will school you……Trust 😂😂😂😂😂
I think the word The Giant of Africa,causes confusion, hence the video,Nigeria might have big economy by GDP size but if you devide by population its far below compared to SA and SAfricans have higher standard of living and enjoy free basic needs etc...I ask who has better credentials
Nigeria is a giant in crime and corruption, and not in an economic or physical size
Talk with facts. Nigerian has the largest population in Africa, followed by Ethiopia and Egypt, the problem with Nigeria is poor leadership qualities and curruption, the day Nigeria realize her potential the continent of Africa will rise up to the bullies of the west and the American empires!!!
@@terhidegeorge2129 Yes Nigeria is a giant in population only
@@terhidegeorge2129 i am stating facts....SA also has social ills and poor leadership but the good is SAfricans stand up
@@dimbwemazala8978 Nigeria is the largest economy in Africa facts and like i said it's leadership roles is occupied by the cabals.i don't want to argue baseless things with you dude.
South africa has always had the biggest economy in africa, our economy was only surpassed by nigeria in 2014
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Because they peg their currency, in real terms, they are not big. Watch now they have just let the currency to float and it dropped by 36% that will throw them to 3rd biggest economy in Africa. South Africa will take over again as the biggest economy in Africa in the next few months.
@@justicetshovhota3940 Nigeria will still be the biggest economy in africa, and in like 5 years it will be 2 twice bigger than southafrica economy. And lastly, s/a will never reach 500 billion mark not even in the next 50 years.
@@jyde50 South Africa is Already at $440 billion GDP right now now you saying we won't reach $500 billion in the next 50 years? Mybe your hate should be directed to to your useless government mate stop to nonsense what you smoking...
Not per capita. 6 peope sharing 100 oranges is better than 600 people sharing 200 oranges.
In theory team b has more oranges but more poverty.
Politics is one of the biggest reasons Nigeria did not join brics.
And brics must not hold in Africa soil
GDP per Capita is the highest in South Africa. Less people sharing almost the same output as Nigeria.
south africa is not included but its a founding member of Brics.
SA joined later
SA not founding member
No, we were invited in 2010. We are the co-founders of the BRICS Bank, in fact, Zuma was the brains behind the BRICS Bank.
@@vat81It was invited & didn't have to apply for membership
Hey Brazil, Russia, India South Africa. That makes BRICS. I don't know how you say is not included.
This is a stupid question. Jacob Zuma campaigned to join the BRICS while Nigeria still doesn't want to join. That's why? Case closed.
Nope he didn’t he was invited to join
How do you not want to join something that you were never invited to join in the first place?
SA was invited, poached.
Imagine African continent was shaped like a Gun. Where would the bullet come out from? 😤 Exactly. 👊🏽🙂🇿🇦
Where would the trigger be? The trigger is the power
@@bofloa😂😂😂😂😂 bros trigger not dey for Niaja. Make u na wake up I beg.
South African Rand is one of the global major currencies the only one in Africa and even in BRICS.
South Africa is classified as an emerging market like India and Brazil.
Rand is very strong one of the few currency that is not pegged no matter what the market does to it
South africa is not an emerging market, its a stagnant market that wont grow even till 2100.
@@jyde50is nigeria an emerging market??😂😂😂😂😂
Nigeria is always making lot of noise
And for nothing 😂😂😂
Nigeria not included as it is a British puppet
Nigeria is massive in population, South Africa is bigger than Nigeria in land mass but Nigeria is three times the population of South Africa.
Very true
😃 you are not on SAs level in anything you can think of, and the sooner you realize that, the better. Nigeria is still not going to make it to BRICS yet; there's so much you still have to do before you can be accepted as a member. Countries who are serious about their membership application are doing something to make their countries stand a chance.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I think you are right about countries that want the membership are doing things that will make them stand a chance. Whether Nigeria is actually serious and interested in the membership is something we are not sure of.
@@IamAfrikanif I may ask, why is Nigeria never vocal about anything that happens in Africa? The President is never with other Presidents ? Why?
Even Citizens are not vocal about anything that concerns Africa, it’s like you guys are not free in a way
@@IamAfrikanNigeria worships America, they will never want to join BRICS and also SA was invited they didn’t apply for membership
@@thembi9645yet they say Nigeria is influential in the continent yet the leaders are missing in action
Nigeria is bigger than Brics. We don't need financial or security backing. We can always get what we want as a nation. When we proposed 14 years jail sentence for LGBT the west did not cough yet they pressurize you guys. We built an economy for Nigeria no space for west imperialism in Nigeria, so no need fighting them.
The title is a misnomer...SA is a founding member....
Yes it is a founding member, it started as BUSA or BSA and evolved to BRICS later on
No guys I'm South African. South Africa is not a founder member however we were invited to Join in 2010. We did not apply. Every other country however will need to apply. Remember the original group was BRIC and this was an acronym coined by some fellow in the IMF who had identified that the BRIC countries 2ould become the biggest economies in the world in the future because they had both the population and the natural resources to do so. In 2010 China felt that the discussion would be disingenuous if an African country was not part of the group and so they advocated for South Africa to be included because it remains the continent's most industrialised and developed country. The other countries were more than happy with SA because all of them have a history with SA. There are more Indians in SA than any other country in the world except for India. We have a long history with them, Ghandi stayed and mobilised in SA and they have been South African for 250 years from when they were taken to SA as slaves.
When SA was fighting for liberation, our soldiers were educated, trained and armed by Russia. China and SA, like India have a similar shared history but like Brazil share the same political identity. Communism/Marxism in both countries' is very central in their political identity. SA has also had links with Brazil stemming from the Lula days on the seventeen also engulfed by their common recognition of Marxism
@@luthovellem865 Please go and research this about a united front of South countries, it started as BSA, Brazil, South Africa and Argentina, it evolved into BRICS when China, India and Russia advised that a bigger more influential structure will be an appropriate formation
@@luthovellem865you really need to research before giving us novel of improper info
@@luthovellem865ell done🙏🙏. You sad it all. I wonder where the feeling of entitlment comes from, Nigeria you can do better than that.
If u have A GDP of 450BILLION in a population size of about 200 000000 and on the other hand u have a country that has a GDP 400BILLION in a population size of 60million, clearly the latter's GDP is far bigger on the basis of population size of respective countries.?
Truth of the matter is South Africa 🇿🇦 applied to be part of BRIC around 2006/07 it was a resolution on the ANC. IT was fully endorsed or incorporated in 2010. Similar to other countries who applied like 5yrs ago including UAE but haven't been formally integrated, difference is now that BRICS is becoming a new Global leader.
In My View, Nigeria is one of the top 3 Corrupted Countries like Kenya and Somalia in Africa. So, it is not reliable Partner at the present. The second group should be in BRICS are Saudi Arabia, UAE, Algeria, Iran, Turkey, Argentina and Indonesia. These 12 Countries are big in Economy and Politics. Then, the third group will be allowed after establishing the Economic foundation.
You South Africa talk too much,
Nigeria was celebrating being the biggest economy in Africa, that tells you how petty Africa is
Why not South Africa,?
Nigeria didn't apply to join Bricks
South Africa was invited
The relationship between SA and Soviet Union goes back a long time.
Nigeria lacks vision, they did apply not so long ago because that's only now that they wake up. I doubt BRICS will approve Nigeria. Nigeria is a liability with nothing to offer BRICS
SA didn't apply either they were invited by China
SA didn't apply either they were invited by China
BRCIS is now bigger than the g7. Did Nigeria ask to join before now?
Nigerians, we have a long history with Russia, Cuba, you won't understand anyway. They've helped us during the apartheid, they've sent their weapons and soldiers to fight the boers in Angola.
Dude stop explaining nonsense ... South Africa was included because they applied in 2009.. Nigeria did not... End of story the comparisons you are trying to make are irrelevant...
You are deceived, other african countries are over taking you while you are busy singing self worship songs every day without anything to show for it
You made some critical highlights as to why Nigeria isolated during the BRICS selection process. However, what you ignore is that that Nigeria lacks the basic infrastructures, be it road network , energy and constant supply of electricity to both public and industries for a trully functional states. Moreover Nigeria ,despite its huge infrastructure defiicit lacks basic maintenance culture. Even though it has a high level of highly educated people in the continent, this human capital resources has not translated into any major practical solution to aid the country into meanimful transformation. Instead corruption , humongous of looting , religious wars as opposed to innovation qnd development become the benchmark through which Nigeria is measured. You haven a lot of DR degrees holders from Harvard LSE Imperial College selling Lemon Market advise to the government without yielding any economic benefits. An economy not driven by manufacturing or export- led but got intoxicated with incessant currency devaluation with deficit widening by the hours.
Yes,as a Nigerian I welcome the BRICS decision not to include the rotten Nigeria into its project until it gets its house in order.
Thank you for the details in your comment. You said it all. Nigeria really need to fulfil her potential as quickly as possible because other giants are rising beside her and might be left behind. Again, I really appreciate your contribution to the conversation.
Most educated people in Africa are South Africans, Nigeria not even in top 10. Should speak from a position of facts not opinions. All leading best universities in Africa are from SAfrica none from Nigeria
Go with your BRICS , it is not for Africa
Because SAfrica's just better.
Nigerians are competing with themselves we South Africans are far from that , please stop this madness. We don't care about Nigeria's business so Nigeria must also see it self out of ours. We hate this competition , how are we going to help each other if we compete. All these competition videos are done by Nigerian you tubers. It's not right. Stop it!
Nigeria is called geant of Africa because of the size of its population, not because of development ,generally speaking Nigeria has the biggest GDP, and the largest economy in Africa but despite that Nigeria is still far behind South Africa in terms of GDP per capita.
Among all African countries seychelles is the wealthiest one in terms of GDP per Capita and South Africa still far ahead of Nigeria in terms of DGP per capita , so please next time do not try to compare South Africa with Nigeria, maybe you should try in the future but as things stand right now Nigeria is far behind South Africa, I can give you a lot of exemples, I know some people do not want to hear the truth because it is going to destroy their illusion but these are facts.
South Africa is among the top or maybe the first African country with the best quality of life index.
Having the biggest economy when you are over populated sometimes means nothing, for exemple India is the 5th economy of the world , France , uk , canada , italy are smaller economy compare to india but they are still richer than India in terms of GDP per capita.
So please you have to do your home work , I am a foreigner living in South Africa.
When it comes to Brics Nigeria is not a good fit as Tinibu is seen as a western puppet whereas the very purpose of Brics is to stay away from western hegemony.
BRICS + 209 countries. GOLD STANDARD
You still don't understand even now... SA is still by far even now when coming to gdp per capita which a country is easily measured by the gdp per capita
Is Nigeria a functioning country?
Nigeria is a sleeping Giant
Nigeria is a giant in population and corruption only
Naija also needs to join ASAP
More like a snoring giant, it will never be fixed, it’s too chaotic and envious of South Africa
@@Antiracist379 You cannot say never. Certainly Nigeria has far more educated people than South Africa has. For example, it has trained 100 000 doctors, to say nothing of the Nigerians doing well abroad
@@Antiracist379 these drug dealers messed up my
family!
I think the guy speaking is speculating. Go and gather more facts to notch up your understanding of South Africa and Brics.
Well said he doesn't really understand what is a giant in terms of gdp and gdp per capita
He needs to look deeper, this was a bad assessment.
Behind the scenes alot was done by the west not to lose another african country to brics.
Geopolitically, Nigeria has almost zero importance, unlike South Africa. This makes SA more important for the Russians, Chinese, Indians.
Nigerians will always try hard to compete with South Africa while South Africa is trying so hard to compete with the world. South Africa is very important, BRIC had to become BRICS because of SA's inclusion. That wont happen if other countries get included including Nigeria. The name will always be BRICS representing the key players which are Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. Instead of asking yourselves as Nigerians what is it you must do to qualify to be part of BRICS you want to know why was it SA that was chosen to be a key member of the organization. Nigeria doesn't even qualify yet, maybe Egypt, Morocco and Algeria will be considered.
There's no competition between Nigeria and South Africa. IT DOES NOT EXIST.
I do believe that South Africa is the PR representative of Brics.
Brazil,Russia, India and China are not English speaking population.
So,they needed a PR management that will obliquely Market the Brics and they chosen South Africa and the Brics became so popular.
They did not pick South Africa, but South Africa applied and was admitted.
@@Qotha it was recommended by China that SA join Bric and Zuma felt like it was a good thing to do.
@@nnmzulu.401 okey
@@Qothalies, South Africa never applied they were invited..
@@nnmzulu.401yes😂 they definitely didn’t apply
Has Nigeria applied to join? Or you are just ranting with no facts.south africa is a founding member of BRICS
SA is not a founding member we joined in 2010
@@mpumihamiltonIt started as BUSA or BSA under Mbeki and evolved to BRICS during Zuma's time.
😂😂😂SA is not the founding member
I think SA is mostly pushing for communism which China N Russia do the same..the west pushes Capitalism which the east hate. Nigeria is a Capitalist country which the west love.
The BRICS nations countries understand SA's political environment and historical experience, I failed to understand why Nigeria is crying about joining or which economies are better.
Nigeria doesn't came close to south Africa in any aspect.... stop the hate Nigeria is a dead country living on past glories
No matter how you try to decorate it brother deep down you know how unfluencial and powerful south afruca is.
China and Russia wanted an African country with influence in Africa to help them recolonize Africa, and South Africa became an easy target compared to Nigeria or Egypt!
Jealousy
And what about countries that are applying to join, some from Africa and some from other continents? Are they forced by South Africa to join?
All Arab countries, Egypt, Ethiopia, wants to join😂😂😂
Only puppets of the West can’t say anything coz they are captured 😂😂😂😂
@@thembi9645who cares If they join brics? Why does Nigeria have to join? Nigeria is the one whose standing independent not being chinas or usa lapdog
@@Ayo-kr4kfyou worship US please..
Standard Bank is based in South Africa and BRICS via China has taken over Standard Bank which has branches right across Africa.But above all Southern Africa has proven to be very politically stable in the 21st century.
Good question?
One of many answers is its mining industries?
I AM AFRAID THAT THEY HAVE A LITTLE POINT, SOUTH AFRICA NEEDS TO RECLAIM ITS OWN LANDVFROM THE EUROPEANS. PLEASE.
Nigerias are soooooo competitive by nature that iv jus noticed in almost everything & mongst themselves...
Advice: improve ur country & dont leave like u all do but fight until its one of the best
It's called jealously and witchcraft when overdone 😢😢
Bro, it's not only a matter of economical reason but the profile of ruling leaders in power.
No puppet is allowed among BRICS members.
As much as I know you appy for membership not being invited
Leave Nigeria 🇳🇬 alone and focus on your own country. Every African country and youtuber wants to trend withe Nigeria
This guy is a Nigerian
@lozi4163 yes i am
Don't need Nigeria to trend
@thandekamngqibisa84 Everyone, including Americans, is trending with the great name Nigeria 🇳🇬
South Africa was not included it was one of the 5 inceptors or originators of BRICS. Nigeria aligned itself with Western countries.
Nigeriais not SA competitor.Nigeria is underdeveloped country with extreme poverty.Talk about Egypt,Morrocco,Kenya Algeria.
Im south Africa 🇿🇦 and south Africa 🇿🇦 is very rare my brother
so your PIC own MTN , MULTI CHOICE AND SASCO?
Well said brother love from Pretoria
South Africa requested by herself to join earlier just one year after BRIC was formed. The ruling ANC had strong historical ties with USSR(Russia) and Chine formed during the struggle against Apartheid. The West then labelled ANC as terrorists and refused to sanction Apartheid RSA. ANC/SACP support came from the Eastern Block and Africa. The bond has since continued and RSA is politically stable with more westernised economy no major internal security problems than Nigeria. I think Nigeria will in future be accepted. Africa must unit from all fronts...
Its crazy how a lot of south Africans are talking big after apartheid. Before aparthied Nigeria its self helped them get out of it funding them with no return.
But we been working with Russia from long time than any other African countries was obvious.
Why are Nigerian complaining, you want to rule Africa, you took control of ECOWAS , why aren’t you building that, and if Nigeria is not involved, then you start to cry, you got your gas pipeline, aren’t you to supply that to Europe, you have all those debts loans from Texas Chevron oil and Gas, World Bank, international Monetary funds.. but you are not trying to pay that back, soon the western countries you how debt to will start calling you ok where the gas pipeline, interest is building, soon that gas pipeline will be European
Jacob Zuma is everything South Africa.......not GDP