13:00 or sooner, you only said mannimarco became a living God, you didn't mention he both ascended to godhood as the necromancers Moon and remained a lich/mortal mer which is why we killed him in Oblivion.
The Akaviri: We're going to spend six years literally setting history in stone, so that no one forgets it Also the Akaviri: Now we're going to seal it off so that nobody can find it, and eventually the whole world will forget it exists.
Maybe its because they realized that their order was going to be destroyed, the Empire would be shattered and in that process, the wall would be destroyed by the Empire's enemies. So they elected to preserve it in the hope that some of their order would survive and that the Last Dragonborn would realize his or her destiny to defeat Alduin.
@@adarshkamoda9183 well, they were canonically right to do so. Who knows where the hell did those Akaviri found all that info? They seem to understand the tower theory, and the wheel. There is so much knowledge of the inner workings of the TES lore. Did they have elder scrolls? Were they able to read them and understand them? My head cannon: The blades are remnants of the old akaviri, but i think that the moth priests also have some of the akaviri heritage. Think about it. They spend their entire lives divining out of them. They have intimate knowledge of the workings of the universe. And the first moth priest that comes to my mind is Dexion Evicus from the dawnguard quest line. Guess what is his weapon of choice? A blades Katana...
Esbern: *gushing about the Akaviri art* Delphine: “We’re not here for an art history lesson.” Me: “Delphine, shut the Oblivion up! That’s exactly why I’m here!”
Dragonborn: Oh, excuse me, Delphine, why don't you take some armors and sabers and go back to your the Sleeping Giant's Inn and recruit new blades there? I can give you the title of property to my house in Whiterun, if you're missing a base of operation. Because if you're not going to take advantage of this base's uniqueness, you don't need to isolate in mountains ridden by forsworns, do you?
It's hard to pay attention to the wall since you get kicked out of the temple by a pair of unkillable douchenozzles for not betraying your best dragonbro.
Another cool thing I just noticed: there seem to be three Blades holding their swords up in support of the Dragonborn on the wall. I believe there are only three blades in the game, correct? Delphine, the other guy, and Fultheim at the inn? If so maybe the wall also shows an abridged version of the fall of the Blades, literally showing their number by the time Alduin returns.
23:27 - "...a great hero, holding back the ferocity of Alduin, with the Blades kneeling in praise." This makes me think that you can only fully fulfill the wall's prophecy by using the Paarthurnax Dilemma mod. In vanilla Skyrim, the Blades don't end up kneeling before the Dragonborn in praise: You either kill Paarthurnax and thus effectively become Delphine's good little lapdog instead of an actual leader for the Blades, or you don't kill Paarthurnax, which results in the Blades ultimately shunning you. Only by Shouting some sense into Delphine, you fulfill even this last part of the prophecy.
@@THEJOKER-ii8wo especially since there's canon mechanisms that totally make any choice you have actually happen, no matter if you do choose to do it or not
Sorry, seems like my actual point flew over everyone's head. This was meant as a criticism of Bethesda's writing for the Paarthurnax quest specifically. Something like the option added by Paarthurnax Dilemma should have been available in this quest from the very beginning. I think there are other good arguments for that point, I only used the wall's symbolism to illustrate it here.
@@tarvoc746 I feel ya. I always felt annoyed that the blades were given new purpose by the Dragonborn. One of them was working at a backwater inn with a troublesome husband and the other was hiding in a glorified sewer drain. Yet the Dragonborn took them and gave them a noble purpose to fight Alduin. Not to mention that they had never been sworn to hunt down and kill dragons. They had assassins or scholars in a time without any dragons. Why in Oblivion are they so emotionally invested in killing a cool dragon buddy? And at the cost of telling their new boss and charge to fuck off???
@@left-2-write28 I don't think Delphine is invested in killing Paarthurnax. Not overly at least, not more than for any other dragon. She's invested in making _the Dragonborn specifically_ kill him. Delphine has been manipulative and controlling since the very first time you meet her, and she even outright lies to you straight to the face long before you even get to the Paarthurnax quest. I think it's pretty obvious that she wants to turn the Blades into her own personal army, and the Dragonborn into her loyal puppet. Paarthurnax is in the way because as a mentor character he has a very different, more subtle, but arguably stronger influence on the Dragonborn. For Delphine, killing him serves two connected purposes: First, it gets him out of the way. And second, letting you do it serves as a test of loyalty, to see if you're dedicated enough to her so she can mold you into her tool. If you don't let her control you that way, she knows that you're a threat to her authority over the Blades, and thus she'll kick you out as a risk to her plans. And if you do let her control you that way, she knows that she can goad you into committing outright immoral acts, and thus it's the first step to forming you to her will. It's similar to a mob boss telling a new recruit to perform a kill to prove his loyalty. Wanting the target dead is usually a very secondary concern for the mob boss. The real purpose is to turn the new recruit into a loyal killer.
He said "practically", not "does". I mean, this is how I'd explain the lore to someone that hasn't played any of the games, or at most, just skyrim, since the plots of each of the games is enough for such people to get them into the swing of things, and whet the desire to learn more themselves, hopefully by playing the other games
It’s unbelievable how much detail they put into the games. I’m speechless every time I watch a lore video! It’s all so confusing but that’s what makes it interesting. Great work Camel 👏🏻
@@Safetytrousers I'm not talking about the gameplay.... I'm talking about the story... Bethesda doesn't give a damn about the canon lore for some reason that eludes me
@@THEJOKER-ii8wo when they made fallout 3, they made a spiritual successor set in the same universe. It's a lot like the lore of Dungeons and Dragons in that sense. There have been so many writers involved that there are bound to be conflicts or mistakes. For the most part, fallout stays true to the old stories and lore. It's not like they rewrote Vault Tec to be an alien civilization on another planet.
@@MrOfTheSea I agree. Fallout 3 was a new different take on the Fallout Gameplay style, with a whole different cast of writers and creator as I seem to recall that the previous owners of the franchise went bankrupt. So the way i see it, Bethesda saved Fallout. For how long they take before they kill it themselves is another matter tho.
I have my own roleplays inside my head for all the Skyrim characters I've made over the years. The good, the bad, the True Neutral haha. But I've never, ever been able to bring myself to kill Paarthurnax. XD
One day I decided to test to see if it would be worth to kill parthanax, so I saved my game and killed him then I went to the blades and it was NOT worth it so I loaded my game to before I killed parthanax. Don't kill parthanax and you get this whole dragan saramoney on top of the throte of the world or you kill parthanax and you have some annoying twat saying good job, like she could not kill parthanax so she had the dragan born defeat him, like the dragon born should not be some lap dog to some spineless coward.
Ive been seeing alot of comments saying people roleplay skyrim, i personally dont and unsure how youd do that. So what i mean is, how do you roleplay in skyrim? Like, do you just play a different way each time you play it? Because i just replay the game over & over more or less the same way each time..?
I feel like Bethesda cut out a lot of the College stuff, as there's a lot that feels rushed or poorly presented. It wouldn't surprise me if the Auger was supposed to be more fleshed out.
Incredible how well made the games are. How they're all coming together in all kinds of different directions. Amazing video as usual Camel. Love how detailed and deep your videos are and how much effort you put into them. Thank you
This made me cry. The sheer beauty of this. I had my suspicions but you also called some things out I hadn't thought about. Whoever wrote this is a master craftsman at story telling and to be able to mold such a great story and lore into one piece or artifact in game must be so difficult for the average person. So this is why I say I tear up, the person who thought this up or people are amazing story craftsman. That is a gift that should be treasured.
Oh my god. Can you imagine going back to TES V to meet Sissel after playing TES VI in which she's like a super powerful seer. That would be so cool and intimidating.
@@daughter-of-loki1062 I raise you: Sissel *and* Paarthurnax both appearing and giving closure to that little throwaway dialogue Sissel gives about dreaming of a friendly dragon.
I know this must’ve taken awhile to produce, but I am very appreciative and grateful for the work you do. It’s always a good time watching Elder Scrolls detective Videos!
Here's the gist of it, at least the way I understand it through my own delves into the lore. Magnus is the God of Magick. He was the first of the Aedra/Magma Ge to abandon Lorkhan's Mundus creation project after they realized that they would lose most of their divinity during the process. The Eye of Magnus was said to be used in the creation of Mundus/Nirn. The way I understand it, it's essentially a magical toolkit of such. The Thalmor's ultimate goal is to unmake the world (not destroy the world, but rather unmake the world by reversing the process that used to create it). They believe that by unmaking the world that they can "return" to being Aedra/Gods themselves, as the Altmer claim to be direct descendants of the Aedra. Ancano found a shortcut through the Eye of Magnus.
i suspect that killing alduin will cause another timebreak, where the dragonborn supports the empire and the stormcloaks both causing their own repercussions
That's why Akatosh takes Alduin's soul back after you defeat him in Sovengarde. Also it would be kind of impossible. The reason why it worked in Daggerfall was because each faction was represented by a figure and not an army. All of those figures achieved what they wanted and thus time merged into one timeline again.
By the gods I love this series. I always learn something new from these videos even though I thought I knew every thing about the Elder Scrolls. Also the editing and music choice is just perfect. Keep up the awesome videos Camel!
Fnally, I've been waiting for a new video, been watching CCC and detectives all the time and behold another detective episode! I've been craving. I love your content, keep it up!
Wow this was phenomenal. The details they put in the smallest places always thrill me and I have you to thank for opening my mind to this world. Also by the nine I want alduins wall in my physical house
How did that meeting go at Bethesda? " So what's our next story?" " Well the world obviously goes to shit when dragonborns aren't around?" "Alright we have another game!"
Todd Howard, "Alright now that all the details are finished, the quests finished, the game finished... Let's wait one century before publicly announcing a teaser trailer of this game then wait another century to first sell a copy which we then make that game a Battle Royale which would turn into a massive flop. " It just works~ Todd Howard
Delphine : "You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy all the dragons, not join them! Kill Paarthunax, not leave him on the mountain! You were my brother Dragonborn! I loved you!" Dragonborn : "I hate you!" Edit : Wow I never got 100 likes, thanks guys :))
Imagine Camelworks telling his date that he runs a huge UA-cam channel, and she checks it out only to find a 26 video about a fictional wall of dragon lore.
I'm reminded of the headmaster of bards, Viarmo's statement. He says that despite one of the sides in the civil war winning, there is no real conclusion to be found. That leaders will come and go as time passes. That only the event of the dragons' return is something which definitely will be remembered. I believe the developers, by that, made sure that the next game doesn't have to provide us with any accurate detail or references to Skyrim and the civil war, just general points of it. The next chapter will likely revovle around a greater theme - the men versus mer conflict. The whole of the fith chapter in the Elderscrolls is practically leading up to it. But how it will unfold, time only will tell. Oh, but we do know of one heroine who will be present: Grandma Shirley Curry!
The lore of the Elder Scrolls universe is what drew me into the series. It's genuinely original (well, as original as anything can be when used in certain genres) and deeply thought out, interconnected, and just a little bit mind screwy.
I learnt all these things long ago. But the way you told the stories of the previous games and the rest was far more eloquent than I could have managed to tell it, so excellent job, my friend!!!
Was binging your videos. I watched some of your old stuff, and am back to your fairly new stuff. Wow you really got so much better. You are so amazing now at making these videos
What an amazing video. Having not played the games before Morrowind, finding the lore of the first two games was enthralling. If you'd do something like a full recap of those games (in regards to canon lore) I think others would appreciate it too.
This video is awesome man, I love it. I mean, your other works have been great, but this just seems really different & unique. The imagery, the clips, entire presentation is on point 👍. Many more like this please ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Camel we need another detective video about solving where the Dragonborn was before waking up on the carriage crossing the border. There’s a lot of confusion and contradictions with this one.
Thanks, man! You just made my day! Love these series! You even made me play the game in completely different way..I now stumble around looking suspiciously at every single bottle of mead, wondering how it came to it being there and whether there is a massive story behind.. :-D
I'd love to see you do an episode on the Bloodspring Den, as it seems the red water has something special to it and the origins are quite gorey as well. It's part of the Dawnguard DLC Vampire questline.
Slight correction regarding the death of High King Torygg: True, Ulfric Stormcloak's Thu'um knocked him on ass, but it was his sword stabbing him through the heart that actually killed him.
I think the period after what the wall depicts will be an era of dragon breaks, the breaking down of reality and barriers between Mundus and the other realms.
Wow, I have a lithograph of Alduin's Wall I got at Quakecon years ago, but never really knew there was so much such contained within in it. Great video.
I love the Dragonborn Prophecy and how it both simply and thoroughly sums up the major events of the series leading up to the events of Skyrim. The Towers is one of my favorite parts of the lore as well. And if you read into it, “The Wheel” isn’t just the wheel of time. It refers to the structure of the Aurbis. The universe itself is made ready for the last Dragonborn. He was fated.
My thoughts of him talking about the last dragonborn and my thoughts when seeing the iron helmet covered in the snow: "Who's Rapping-? Dovahkiin! Dragons?? I'm Not Over Keen I'll Dice 'Em Like A Knife Slicing Right Thru An Aubergine My Dragon Shout Flow Is Sweeter Than A Soda Stream, YOU WON'T BELIEVE YOUR EYES, I'm Like An Overload Of DOPAMINE A Broadsword In One Hand And A Magic. Spell In The Other. I'm The Last Of The Dragonborn, THERE IS NO OTHER MY BROTHER SO RUN FOR COVER! If You Got Scales Then I'm On Your Tail And I Will NOT FAIL Like A Free-Roaming SANDBOX-GAME I'm Off The Rails- I'll Walk The Trails- Thru Awful Gales- And Storms Of Hail- 'Til All The Nails- Are Knocked INTO YOUR COFFIN I'M NOT STOPPING 'Till You're Impaled And I've Prevailed- In The Name Of The Nords- I Pray To The Lords- You'll All Get A Taste Of The BLADE OF MY SWORD- I'M Taking On HORDES OF ENEMIES. I Face Them With HORDES OF WEAP'NRY They're Draining My Force- So Chemistry Comes Into Play With Retorts And Recipes Alchemixing Like A DJ Restoration, RESTORE MY ENERGY!!! My Legacy- Odyssey- Elegy- Prophecy's- Written In Heavenly Bodies- And Buried With E-ver-ry Body- That Ever Did Bother To Mess With Me- Deading Them Terribly- Horribly- I'M A CELEBRITY- HONESTLY YOU'RE A WANNABE I'M A PRODIGY- The Suggestion You're Better Than Me At Being A Warrior? Ha! Comedy It's A Gift To Me I Don't Just Spit Flames Lyrically But LIT'RLY And The Elder Scrolls Are Scripts In Which I've Written Your OBIT'RY I AM THE DRAGONBORN WEARING A HAT WITH BADASS HORNS! I'm Dovahkiin- Known Globally- YOU'RE NOBODY AT ALL!".-Danbull
I love when writers do stuff like this. They acknowledge events of past games and simultaneously retcon them by weaving them into the present narrative.
Okay this is a long and stupid theory but in the context of Skyrim itself, it may hold weight. I don't know if it's true but it's fun. My theory is that the Dwarves sent themselves forward in time on purpose, since we find the same Elder Scroll the ancient Nords used deep in Blackreach. Paarthunax calls it that, specifically. He says "the same Elder Scroll," and of all the ones for the Dwemer to hide away and sequester, that one makes sense since it covers their tracks. I also believe that they used the Snow Elves as a loophole for the Elder Scrolls, as Gelebor himself states he doesn't know how the Falmer were blinded. And what is the most common price for reading the Elder Scrolls? The readers eyesight. I'm not sure how and that weakens the theory, but it would make sense if the Dwarves used the Snow Elves to get out of losing their sight. Because something that's always bugged me is the fact that the Dwemer wanted the Falmer's eyesight. Like why? What would they have gained? This does give a motive. Also since Feldir had to invoke Kyne's name, and the Dwarves didn't worship Kyne, I think I know how they powered the scroll's magic. The Aitherium, it's the only thing in the game powerful enough to alter the Standing Stones, some of the most ancient magic in Skyrim. It could have been powerful enough to seal the contract needed to use the Elder Scrolls in such a fashion. It would explain how the Dwemer disappeared, but it doesn't explain why. And that really does weaken the theory, and makes it more of a headcanon, but honestly, if that's the main point of Elder Scrolls 6? The Dwemer returning in a full scale invasion force to a weakened Tamriel? That would be badass.
When the scrolls themselves lie sullied..... The second great war shall begin!!!! And ruin shall fall for one or the other... (The elder scrolls themselves are a representation of Bethesda... A plot device so they can interact with their world directly)
so i would like an episode on the anuad and the other various creation myths, or dragon breaks and the flow of time through the dawn and myrithic era i got tagged as my ESO guilds lore master and i don't know enough, this topic in particular eludes me and i have spent about a month going insane, please help!
I always knew that Alduin's wall mention events from the previous Elder scroll games but this video goes fully in-depth analysis I manage to relearn and fill in gaps I forgot or didn't know
13:25 How can conflicting timelines merge into one? All outcomes being true must mean that the same characters are both dead and alive at the same time. What am I missing here?
@ Leto85 Here's someone who hasn't achieved chim. Kappa Nah, I'll explain what I can. All events happened, but it's the merging and reconciliation from the 7 endings as time mended that's the sticking point; I know. I'm sure it would help to know the practicality-- What the end result *_after_* the dragonbreak was. For the powers feuding for control of the Iliac Bay, here's an excerpt from "The Warp in the West", a book found in tES4 Oblivion: "During the 'Miracle of Peace', according to official accounts, the formerly war-wracked Iliac Bay region was transformed overnight from a patchwork of squabbling duchies and petty kingdoms into the peaceful modern counties of Daggerfall, Sentinel, Wayrest, and Orsinium. The 'Miracle of Peace', also known as the 'The Warp in the West', is celebrated as the product of the miraculous interventions of Stendarr, Mara, and Akatosh to transform this troublesome region into peaceful, well-governed Imperial counties." As for the other two endings... The Underking likely claims the death he sought, and, given the Shade of the Revenant, it is possible that King of Worms did actually ascend to a godlike state, and he did claim the title of God of Worms if "Where Were You When the Dragon Broke? " (another in-game book) is to be believed. And for the process of how countless timelines are reconciled... Well, average out all possibilities and distill muddlingly homogenized aspects into disparate parts as you would a sample in a centrifuge, and you may be closer to the result than you might think. Perhaps the rest just falls into place naturally like a fine sediment as a result.
Hope you enjoy the secrets within Alduin's Wall
i will enjoy!
Camelworks Hope you enjoy a full night’s sleep, it’s late bro
You magnificient fucking bastard
13:00 or sooner, you only said mannimarco became a living God, you didn't mention he both ascended to godhood as the necromancers Moon and remained a lich/mortal mer which is why we killed him in Oblivion.
@@kirkfogg8366 Well "A living God" pretty much can be interpretated as that
it’s something for esbern and delphine to stare at while i never contact them again after they tell me to kill parthurnax
I just disable their essential tag and kill them after I finish the main quest
If you finish the main question without there help they're sort of pissed off because you don't have to kill him, but I kill the blades anyway
Get the Parthurnax Dilemma mod. That's what I do.
Sail Hatan how do you do that? 😱
Eva Olthof It’s something that can be done with commands on PC.
The Akaviri: We're going to spend six years literally setting history in stone, so that no one forgets it
Also the Akaviri: Now we're going to seal it off so that nobody can find it, and eventually the whole world will forget it exists.
Writes history book ... hides book behind lock impossible to open for few thousand years
Maybe its because they realized that their order was going to be destroyed, the Empire would be shattered and in that process, the wall would be destroyed by the Empire's enemies. So they elected to preserve it in the hope that some of their order would survive and that the Last Dragonborn would realize his or her destiny to defeat Alduin.
@@adarshkamoda9183 ya hide the best kept secrets for only those who know the importance of it
@@danielhughes8593 Thanks for the assist. 👍
@@adarshkamoda9183 well, they were canonically right to do so. Who knows where the hell did those Akaviri found all that info? They seem to understand the tower theory, and the wheel. There is so much knowledge of the inner workings of the TES lore. Did they have elder scrolls? Were they able to read them and understand them?
My head cannon: The blades are remnants of the old akaviri, but i think that the moth priests also have some of the akaviri heritage.
Think about it. They spend their entire lives divining out of them. They have intimate knowledge of the workings of the universe. And the first moth priest that comes to my mind is Dexion Evicus from the dawnguard quest line. Guess what is his weapon of choice? A blades Katana...
Esbern: *gushing about the Akaviri art*
Delphine: “We’re not here for an art history lesson.”
Me: “Delphine, shut the Oblivion up! That’s exactly why I’m here!”
@@cal2127 Haha me too!
Same that's one of the things I love about the Elder scrolls games, the lore it just Draws me in
BITCH!! DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!
Dragonborn: Oh, excuse me, Delphine, why don't you take some armors and sabers and go back to your the Sleeping Giant's Inn and recruit new blades there? I can give you the title of property to my house in Whiterun, if you're missing a base of operation. Because if you're not going to take advantage of this base's uniqueness, you don't need to isolate in mountains ridden by forsworns, do you?
@@quinnzykir I understood that reference
It's hard to pay attention to the wall since you get kicked out of the temple by a pair of unkillable douchenozzles for not betraying your best dragonbro.
www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/365
You're welcome 😊
@@Nixicated You missed the whole point.
@@yaasinm whoosh? 😅
Nixicated Whoosh. Happens to the best of us.
Esbern is a bad prick.
Alduin's wall predicts Raid Shadow Legends sponsorships.
Huh. Didnt think John was into fantasy games.
@@left-2-write28 Bet his favourite fantasy is not having to deal with Gaz's sassy ass.
@@Carbon2861996 his fantasy comes true thank-GOD
It predicted tik tok as well.
We should have listened
Does anyone even play that "game"?
Another cool thing I just noticed: there seem to be three Blades holding their swords up in support of the Dragonborn on the wall. I believe there are only three blades in the game, correct? Delphine, the other guy, and Fultheim at the inn? If so maybe the wall also shows an abridged version of the fall of the Blades, literally showing their number by the time Alduin returns.
That is a good point.
You can also recruit only 3 followers to the blades afaik
I’d think they’d be the three ancient nords who help you in Sovernguard
@@AvatarRiku Very possible
TES confirms hl3!!!
23:27 - "...a great hero, holding back the ferocity of Alduin, with the Blades kneeling in praise."
This makes me think that you can only fully fulfill the wall's prophecy by using the Paarthurnax Dilemma mod. In vanilla Skyrim, the Blades don't end up kneeling before the Dragonborn in praise: You either kill Paarthurnax and thus effectively become Delphine's good little lapdog instead of an actual leader for the Blades, or you don't kill Paarthurnax, which results in the Blades ultimately shunning you. Only by Shouting some sense into Delphine, you fulfill even this last part of the prophecy.
Prophecy is kind of a hard thing to grasp in the elder scrolls universe
@@THEJOKER-ii8wo especially since there's canon mechanisms that totally make any choice you have actually happen, no matter if you do choose to do it or not
Sorry, seems like my actual point flew over everyone's head. This was meant as a criticism of Bethesda's writing for the Paarthurnax quest specifically. Something like the option added by Paarthurnax Dilemma should have been available in this quest from the very beginning. I think there are other good arguments for that point, I only used the wall's symbolism to illustrate it here.
@@tarvoc746 I feel ya. I always felt annoyed that the blades were given new purpose by the Dragonborn. One of them was working at a backwater inn with a troublesome husband and the other was hiding in a glorified sewer drain. Yet the Dragonborn took them and gave them a noble purpose to fight Alduin. Not to mention that they had never been sworn to hunt down and kill dragons. They had assassins or scholars in a time without any dragons. Why in Oblivion are they so emotionally invested in killing a cool dragon buddy? And at the cost of telling their new boss and charge to fuck off???
@@left-2-write28 I don't think Delphine is invested in killing Paarthurnax. Not overly at least, not more than for any other dragon. She's invested in making _the Dragonborn specifically_ kill him. Delphine has been manipulative and controlling since the very first time you meet her, and she even outright lies to you straight to the face long before you even get to the Paarthurnax quest. I think it's pretty obvious that she wants to turn the Blades into her own personal army, and the Dragonborn into her loyal puppet. Paarthurnax is in the way because as a mentor character he has a very different, more subtle, but arguably stronger influence on the Dragonborn. For Delphine, killing him serves two connected purposes: First, it gets him out of the way. And second, letting you do it serves as a test of loyalty, to see if you're dedicated enough to her so she can mold you into her tool. If you don't let her control you that way, she knows that you're a threat to her authority over the Blades, and thus she'll kick you out as a risk to her plans. And if you do let her control you that way, she knows that she can goad you into committing outright immoral acts, and thus it's the first step to forming you to her will. It's similar to a mob boss telling a new recruit to perform a kill to prove his loyalty. Wanting the target dead is usually a very secondary concern for the mob boss. The real purpose is to turn the new recruit into a loyal killer.
Maybe the true meaning of Alduin's wall were the friends we made along the way
Again xD Man you rock xD
That’s a bluesbreaker haha
I swear on every video from camel has a "friends along the way" joke as top comment. I'm liking this trend.
I killed all mah friends. Needed the xp lol
Alduin's Wall was inside us all along!
No one:
Camelworks: *practically explains the entirety of The Elder Scrolls lore*
@woof Yeah, that's the thing.
_This is barely a tenth of the lore._
But also, EVERYONE!
No one:
Cares
This is hardly any of the lore...
He said "practically", not "does". I mean, this is how I'd explain the lore to someone that hasn't played any of the games, or at most, just skyrim, since the plots of each of the games is enough for such people to get them into the swing of things, and whet the desire to learn more themselves, hopefully by playing the other games
I never took notice of the wall before because honestly on vanilla Skyrim you can barely see anything on it anyway.
So thank you! Great video, Camel!
What?!... How? Esbern literally looks like a teacher in front of his chalkboard with it. Teaching you Dragonlore.
@@TheStygian he didn't play
Man your so underrated, you're arguably the best elder scrolls UA-camr even above fudge and Irish
Agreed
@@tunkki345 lol true but they are highly rated
Fudge is like a preschool "lore" teacher. Personally I stopped watching him due to false lore he tried to call factual.
Here are another 500 EpicNate Skyrim videos, that are complete garbage.
@@TeeteringTod Don't diss my boy Nate or i will 1v1 you Skyrim together.
It’s unbelievable how much detail they put into the games. I’m speechless every time I watch a lore video! It’s all so confusing but that’s what makes it interesting. Great work Camel 👏🏻
Yeah but when it comes to making the fallout franchise they just take a huge dump on the source material...
@@THEJOKER-ii8wo I watched Fallout 1 and played Fallout 2. I much prefer all the Bethesda Fallout.
@@Safetytrousers I'm not talking about the gameplay....
I'm talking about the story... Bethesda doesn't give a damn about the canon lore for some reason that eludes me
@@THEJOKER-ii8wo when they made fallout 3, they made a spiritual successor set in the same universe. It's a lot like the lore of Dungeons and Dragons in that sense. There have been so many writers involved that there are bound to be conflicts or mistakes. For the most part, fallout stays true to the old stories and lore. It's not like they rewrote Vault Tec to be an alien civilization on another planet.
@@MrOfTheSea I agree. Fallout 3 was a new different take on the Fallout Gameplay style, with a whole different cast of writers and creator as I seem to recall that the previous owners of the franchise went bankrupt. So the way i see it, Bethesda saved Fallout.
For how long they take before they kill it themselves is another matter tho.
I have my own roleplays inside my head for all the Skyrim characters I've made over the years. The good, the bad, the True Neutral haha. But I've never, ever been able to bring myself to kill Paarthurnax. XD
Good man/woman
I did it once to see what the blades rabbit hole looked like and it's not worth it. The blades fucking suck.
I only did it on my first playthrough because i thought i had to
One day I decided to test to see if it would be worth to kill parthanax, so I saved my game and killed him then I went to the blades and it was NOT worth it so I loaded my game to before I killed parthanax. Don't kill parthanax and you get this whole dragan saramoney on top of the throte of the world or you kill parthanax and you have some annoying twat saying good job, like she could not kill parthanax so she had the dragan born defeat him, like the dragon born should not be some lap dog to some spineless coward.
Ive been seeing alot of comments saying people roleplay skyrim, i personally dont and unsure how youd do that. So what i mean is, how do you roleplay in skyrim? Like, do you just play a different way each time you play it? Because i just replay the game over & over more or less the same way each time..?
Awesome breakdown man, I will definitely take my time at the wall thanks to all this info you detective'd.
Did it just for you sweetheart
I ship this. This is now my OTP. You cannot stop me.
I'm a simple man, I see Elder Scrolls detective I click really love this series
Do Augur of Dunlain, please. Who is/was he, how powerful he is etc.
LunaticPlays2Win Almost nothing is known except that he was probably a Reachmen (the race that the forsworn are just in case you don’t know)
@@baronofbahlingen9662 he was a breton.
My personal theory is that he's connected to the destruction of Winterhold, and the possibility of the College being the Snow Tower.
@@AdmiralAwsm That would largely depend on when he became the Augur of Dunlain. If it was in 4E 122, then I think it'd make perfect sense!
I feel like Bethesda cut out a lot of the College stuff, as there's a lot that feels rushed or poorly presented. It wouldn't surprise me if the Auger was supposed to be more fleshed out.
Incredible how well made the games are. How they're all coming together in all kinds of different directions.
Amazing video as usual Camel. Love how detailed and deep your videos are and how much effort you put into them. Thank you
It's not really "coming together" so much as it's just telling the events of the previous games in the newest one.
@@oxymoron02 Thats what I mean with coming together. Theres a link through them.
@@iGNONERA LOL!
@@nelcorazs what
This made me cry. The sheer beauty of this. I had my suspicions but you also called some things out I hadn't thought about. Whoever wrote this is a master craftsman at story telling and to be able to mold such a great story and lore into one piece or artifact in game must be so difficult for the average person. So this is why I say I tear up, the person who thought this up or people are amazing story craftsman. That is a gift that should be treasured.
“A brief history of the world of Tamriel told through Alduin’s Wall.”
yeah haha, I was disappointed because it was more about what previous games were about but I stayed because it's still interesting
One day Akatosh may allow Alduin to return to fulfill his mission of being the world eater or at least that is what Arngeir said.
you predicted the plot for elder scrolls 6
@@macksii I might have. In a way, I hope it aint but, who truly knows.
It happens in another timeline, it will not happen in ES6.
So it's a good thing I made my Dragonborn a vampire? He'll be waiting.
The Dragonborn defeating Alduin in this way might be a loophole out of the cycle, similar to Jyggalag and Shegorath now exist as separate entities.
I hope Sissel is some important seer who gives a new prophecy for the future games
Oh my god. Can you imagine going back to TES V to meet Sissel after playing TES VI in which she's like a super powerful seer. That would be so cool and intimidating.
@@Sera-F1nn Even better, imagine going back and meeting Paarthurnax again!
That's a great Idea
@@daughter-of-loki1062 I raise you: Sissel *and* Paarthurnax both appearing and giving closure to that little throwaway dialogue Sissel gives about dreaming of a friendly dragon.
I know this must’ve taken awhile to produce, but I am very appreciative and grateful for the work you do. It’s always a good time watching Elder Scrolls detective Videos!
I always wondered what the intended use of the eye of magnus was and if it was actually created/part of magnus it's self
Here's the gist of it, at least the way I understand it through my own delves into the lore.
Magnus is the God of Magick. He was the first of the Aedra/Magma Ge to abandon Lorkhan's Mundus creation project after they realized that they would lose most of their divinity during the process.
The Eye of Magnus was said to be used in the creation of Mundus/Nirn. The way I understand it, it's essentially a magical toolkit of such. The Thalmor's ultimate goal is to unmake the world (not destroy the world, but rather unmake the world by reversing the process that used to create it). They believe that by unmaking the world that they can "return" to being Aedra/Gods themselves, as the Altmer claim to be direct descendants of the Aedra.
Ancano found a shortcut through the Eye of Magnus.
Oh, I just found this lol.
ua-cam.com/video/v9AkIRsq4pc/v-deo.html
@@ink4852 Omg, that is one insanely cool/difficult/long-game plan from the Altmer
i suspect that killing alduin will cause another timebreak, where the dragonborn supports the empire and the stormcloaks both causing their own repercussions
That's why Akatosh takes Alduin's soul back after you defeat him in Sovengarde. Also it would be kind of impossible. The reason why it worked in Daggerfall was because each faction was represented by a figure and not an army. All of those figures achieved what they wanted and thus time merged into one timeline again.
@@AP13P Does that mean Tullius and Ulfric both live and die?
By the gods I love this series. I always learn something new from these videos even though I thought I knew every thing about the Elder Scrolls. Also the editing and music choice is just perfect. Keep up the awesome videos Camel!
This video is absolutely stellar. Weirdly felt emotional whilst you described the scenes on the Wall. Thanks for this :)
i adore that its all the games put onto a mural, its give me a fuzzy, nostalgic feeling
Fnally, I've been waiting for a new video, been watching CCC and detectives all the time and behold another detective episode! I've been craving. I love your content, keep it up!
Wow this was phenomenal. The details they put in the smallest places always thrill me and I have you to thank for opening my mind to this world. Also by the nine I want alduins wall in my physical house
22:21 general Tillius: legate I've never seen you wear that outfit so well
Rikke: by talos
Tulius: what was that?
Rikke: nothing sir
How did that meeting go at Bethesda? " So what's our next story?"
" Well the world obviously goes to shit when dragonborns aren't around?"
"Alright we have another game!"
Todd Howard, "Alright now that all the details are finished, the quests finished, the game finished... Let's wait one century before publicly announcing a teaser trailer of this game then wait another century to first sell a copy which we then make that game a Battle Royale which would turn into a massive flop. "
It just works~ Todd Howard
@@mantaminer6669 Him and James Cameron must be buddies
@@ReidGarwin They most certainly are
Delphine : "You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy all the dragons, not join them! Kill Paarthunax, not leave him on the mountain! You were my brother Dragonborn! I loved you!"
Dragonborn : "I hate you!"
Edit : Wow I never got 100 likes, thanks guys :))
NEW DLC : DARTH DRAGONBORN
Great parody....it really does work. Gave me a laugh at work when I needed it
r/AwardSpeechEdits
You might want to edit your edit.
The dragonborn might even say "ok boomer"
Camel, I just wanted to say a huge thank you for your content, you have no idea how therapeutic these are for me.. Happy holidays.
Imagine Camelworks telling his date that he runs a huge UA-cam channel, and she checks it out only to find a 26 video about a fictional wall of dragon lore.
how stoked would she be 😎 this guy can make even a wall sound interesting
I was drinking tea when I read this and now it's everywhere, good job nwah
@@Khaljiit i already know the plot of all these games and somehow him just saying the plot through the prophecies was ineresting.
Politikz yea yea awesome
What a lucky girl
Lowkey this is the best abridgement of the Elder Scrolls series...
I'm reminded of the headmaster of bards, Viarmo's statement. He says that despite one of the sides in the civil war winning, there is no real conclusion to be found. That leaders will come and go as time passes. That only the event of the dragons' return is something which definitely will be remembered. I believe the developers, by that, made sure that the next game doesn't have to provide us with any accurate detail or references to Skyrim and the civil war, just general points of it. The next chapter will likely revovle around a greater theme - the men versus mer conflict. The whole of the fith chapter in the Elderscrolls is practically leading up to it. But how it will unfold, time only will tell. Oh, but we do know of one heroine who will be present: Grandma Shirley Curry!
The lore of the Elder Scrolls universe is what drew me into the series. It's genuinely original (well, as original as anything can be when used in certain genres) and deeply thought out, interconnected, and just a little bit mind screwy.
I somehow noticed only Numidium and the Oblivion gate after all these years. Wow. Thank you so much for making this.
I learnt all these things long ago. But the way you told the stories of the previous games and the rest was far more eloquent than I could have managed to tell it, so excellent job, my friend!!!
I wasnt expecting a history lesson, but i appreciate it nonetheless. Thank you for expanding my knowledge of the elder scrolls games!
I was waiting for you to do this video for almost 9 years now. Still you did a great job!
I get so annoyed each time you first get there and Esbern has these super interesting things to tell you and Delphine just wont shut the hell up.
Watching this felt as though I would be quizzed after. Good work man, very well done.
Honestly this is just a really good recap of the entire Elder Scrolls series! No wonder that Bethesda have a full size version in their offices
This video is so good! It has all the summary of all the lore
Oh yeahhhh. Another Elder Scrolls Detective video. Thank you, Camel.
Was binging your videos. I watched some of your old stuff, and am back to your fairly new stuff. Wow you really got so much better. You are so amazing now at making these videos
I feel bad that I've never taken any notice of it.
I did the same I said what an amazing cool looking wall skip took all the blades armor and sword came back much later and took a closer look
What an amazing video. Having not played the games before Morrowind, finding the lore of the first two games was enthralling. If you'd do something like a full recap of those games (in regards to canon lore) I think others would appreciate it too.
The petty squabbles of Men and Mer lead to Alduin. Makes sense.
It details the major petty squabbles leading to Alduin, which in all senses is just a call-back to the previous games.
This video is awesome man, I love it. I mean, your other works have been great, but this just seems really different & unique. The imagery, the clips, entire presentation is on point 👍.
Many more like this please ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Oh my god I've been waiting for this one for so long!
Camel we need another detective video about solving where the Dragonborn was before waking up on the carriage crossing the border. There’s a lot of confusion and contradictions with this one.
YASSS, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE I SAW YOUR ALDUIN&PAARTHURNAX POST ON IG!
SO EXCITED
Thanks, man! You just made my day! Love these series! You even made me play the game in completely different way..I now stumble around looking suspiciously at every single bottle of mead, wondering how it came to it being there and whether there is a massive story behind.. :-D
I'd love to see you do an episode on the Bloodspring Den, as it seems the red water has something special to it and the origins are quite gorey as well. It's part of the Dawnguard DLC Vampire questline.
Your voice is perfect for storytelling!! Draws you in, cause you've got passion and emotion shining through.
Slight correction regarding the death of High King Torygg: True, Ulfric Stormcloak's Thu'um knocked him on ass, but it was his sword stabbing him through the heart that actually killed him.
Smartest stormcloak sympathizer 🐒
I just started playing Skyrim again. 👍 So more content and lore is always welcome. Thanks Camel!
I think the period after what the wall depicts will be an era of dragon breaks, the breaking down of reality and barriers between Mundus and the other realms.
Theres a mod that has thalmor trying to tear down reality by destroying the pillars of reality (towers throat of the world crytal tower etc)
Wow, I have a lithograph of Alduin's Wall I got at Quakecon years ago, but never really knew there was so much such contained within in it. Great video.
I love the Dragonborn Prophecy and how it both simply and thoroughly sums up the major events of the series leading up to the events of Skyrim.
The Towers is one of my favorite parts of the lore as well.
And if you read into it, “The Wheel” isn’t just the wheel of time. It refers to the structure of the Aurbis. The universe itself is made ready for the last Dragonborn. He was fated.
Ulfric has dialogue that states he didn't blow him to pieces but used his axe after shouting him
I love the Elder Scrolls for its lore and I like being engrossed with it
So this is an AMAZING recap of the game series... Thanks for that!
Aludin; I will rule the world!
wall; imma bout to end this man's whole career
How someone can dislike this video (or any TES detective video in general) is fucking beyond me. Top level, elite content.
I literally binged all the episodes and was kinda sad that it was over and all of a sudden there is this episode ❤ now im sad again that its over :(
My thoughts of him talking about the last dragonborn and my thoughts when seeing the iron helmet covered in the snow: "Who's Rapping-?
Dovahkiin!
Dragons??
I'm Not Over Keen
I'll Dice 'Em Like A Knife Slicing Right Thru An Aubergine
My Dragon Shout Flow Is Sweeter Than A Soda Stream,
YOU WON'T BELIEVE YOUR EYES, I'm Like An Overload Of DOPAMINE
A Broadsword In One Hand
And A Magic. Spell In The Other.
I'm The Last Of The Dragonborn, THERE IS NO OTHER MY BROTHER SO RUN FOR COVER! If You Got Scales
Then I'm On Your Tail
And I Will NOT FAIL
Like A Free-Roaming
SANDBOX-GAME
I'm Off The Rails-
I'll Walk The Trails-
Thru Awful Gales-
And Storms Of Hail-
'Til All The Nails-
Are Knocked INTO YOUR COFFIN
I'M NOT STOPPING
'Till You're Impaled
And I've Prevailed-
In The Name Of The Nords-
I Pray To The Lords-
You'll All Get A Taste Of The BLADE OF MY SWORD-
I'M Taking On HORDES OF ENEMIES.
I Face Them With HORDES OF WEAP'NRY
They're Draining My Force-
So Chemistry Comes Into Play With Retorts And Recipes
Alchemixing Like A DJ
Restoration, RESTORE MY ENERGY!!!
My Legacy-
Odyssey-
Elegy-
Prophecy's-
Written In Heavenly Bodies-
And Buried With E-ver-ry Body-
That Ever Did Bother To Mess With Me-
Deading Them Terribly-
Horribly-
I'M A CELEBRITY-
HONESTLY
YOU'RE A WANNABE
I'M A PRODIGY-
The Suggestion You're Better Than Me At Being A Warrior?
Ha!
Comedy
It's A Gift To Me
I Don't Just Spit Flames Lyrically
But LIT'RLY
And The Elder Scrolls Are Scripts In Which I've Written Your OBIT'RY
I AM THE DRAGONBORN
WEARING A HAT WITH BADASS HORNS!
I'm Dovahkiin-
Known Globally-
YOU'RE NOBODY AT ALL!".-Danbull
Wow, Camelworks should be hired as a consultant in TES6 development! 👍🏽🤺
This implies Zenimax won't just make it a slot machine
@@last_raven Please don't mention, or Zenimax & Betty will get some dreaded ideas! 🙏🏼
I love when writers do stuff like this. They acknowledge events of past games and simultaneously retcon them by weaving them
into the present narrative.
This has reignited my love for the elder scrolls and re downloaded skyrim
Okay this is a long and stupid theory but in the context of Skyrim itself, it may hold weight. I don't know if it's true but it's fun.
My theory is that the Dwarves sent themselves forward in time on purpose, since we find the same Elder Scroll the ancient Nords used deep in Blackreach. Paarthunax calls it that, specifically. He says "the same Elder Scroll," and of all the ones for the Dwemer to hide away and sequester, that one makes sense since it covers their tracks. I also believe that they used the Snow Elves as a loophole for the Elder Scrolls, as Gelebor himself states he doesn't know how the Falmer were blinded. And what is the most common price for reading the Elder Scrolls? The readers eyesight. I'm not sure how and that weakens the theory, but it would make sense if the Dwarves used the Snow Elves to get out of losing their sight. Because something that's always bugged me is the fact that the Dwemer wanted the Falmer's eyesight. Like why? What would they have gained? This does give a motive. Also since Feldir had to invoke Kyne's name, and the Dwarves didn't worship Kyne, I think I know how they powered the scroll's magic. The Aitherium, it's the only thing in the game powerful enough to alter the Standing Stones, some of the most ancient magic in Skyrim. It could have been powerful enough to seal the contract needed to use the Elder Scrolls in such a fashion. It would explain how the Dwemer disappeared, but it doesn't explain why. And that really does weaken the theory, and makes it more of a headcanon, but honestly, if that's the main point of Elder Scrolls 6? The Dwemer returning in a full scale invasion force to a weakened Tamriel? That would be badass.
Esberns voice actor went to sovengarde a few days ago. R.I.P
Thank you for all of the time and effort you put into your videos.
what really annoyed me in the original skyrim, even on pc's highest settings, you couldnt make shit out of the graphics for the wall
fse😂
Absolutely Love this series, never stop Camel
Interesting how they depict the broken staff accurately yet chose to show the throat of the world split in half
Metaphorically split in half. Stormcloaks and Imperials
Brilliant vid Camel! I always felt Alduin's Wall had hints into future titles but assumed I was just too stupid to figure it out =p
When the scrolls themselves lie sullied..... The second great war shall begin!!!! And ruin shall fall for one or the other... (The elder scrolls themselves are a representation of Bethesda... A plot device so they can interact with their world directly)
After binge watching your videos, having a new one is quite a treat. I enjoy your content, sir. Keep it coming!
Love the Eso footage! Really good job!
ESO cinematics are wonderful
Who knew this would be a whole rundown of the entire series.
18:41 *random stone wall slides open only for an assassin to emerge* Why not?
Plot convince? I think not.
From all your detective videos i think this one is the best, great job👌
I think Miaq will become Emperor and rule with a furry hand 😁
maiq would make a good fur lining for my robes.
@@thomasjenkins7506 lol now that was priceless
Nobody said M'aiq didn't rule anything
I've been a viewer since 2017 to your channel and I have to say you deserve more subs and views because your contents are awesome and great.
oh yes, the Brass Tower...the Brotherhood of Steel ending
Hah. Nice.
*DEMOCRACY IS NONNEGOTIABLE*
This makes me want to play again... have a family now so will be hard to play much but damn do I miss it. Truly a masterpiece. Thank you for video.
so i would like an episode on the anuad and the other various creation myths, or dragon breaks and the flow of time through the dawn and myrithic era
i got tagged as my ESO guilds lore master and i don't know enough, this topic in particular eludes me and i have spent about a month going insane, please help!
Dragon Breaks are a mess. They really went all in with the "unfathomable for most mortals" aspect of the Dragon Breaks.
@@Sera-F1nn true, but when you kind of NEED to understand the creation myth that's not super useful
I always knew that Alduin's wall mention events from the previous Elder scroll games but this video goes fully in-depth analysis I manage to relearn and fill in gaps I forgot or didn't know
So glad to know Camel is a stormcloak ;)
I can't wait to gut another one of Ulfric's boys.
I love your detective and the lore series so much they're my most favorite of all things to watch on youtube.
13:25 How can conflicting timelines merge into one? All outcomes being true must mean that the same characters are both dead and alive at the same time.
What am I missing here?
Bethesda: It justt works.
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Leto85
Here's someone who hasn't achieved chim. Kappa
Nah, I'll explain what I can.
All events happened, but it's the merging and reconciliation from the 7 endings as time mended that's the sticking point; I know.
I'm sure it would help to know the practicality-- What the end result *_after_* the dragonbreak was.
For the powers feuding for control of the Iliac Bay, here's an excerpt from "The Warp in the West", a book found in tES4 Oblivion:
"During the 'Miracle of Peace', according to official accounts, the formerly war-wracked Iliac Bay region was transformed overnight from a patchwork of squabbling duchies and petty kingdoms into the peaceful modern counties of Daggerfall, Sentinel, Wayrest, and Orsinium. The 'Miracle of Peace', also known as the 'The Warp in the West', is celebrated as the product of the miraculous interventions of Stendarr, Mara, and Akatosh to transform this troublesome region into peaceful, well-governed Imperial counties."
As for the other two endings...
The Underking likely claims the death he sought, and, given the Shade of the Revenant, it is possible that King of Worms did actually ascend to a godlike state, and he did claim the title of God of Worms if "Where Were You When the Dragon Broke?
" (another in-game book) is to be believed.
And for the process of how countless timelines are reconciled...
Well, average out all possibilities and distill muddlingly homogenized aspects into disparate parts as you would a sample in a centrifuge, and you may be closer to the result than you might think.
Perhaps the rest just falls into place naturally like a fine sediment as a result.
When a dragon break merges, the Jills repair it.
Really good vid. Loves all the work you put into it. Lots of lore and never once boring or stale. Keep it up and thank you
What about Sunderstone Keep and Mehrunes' Razor in TES IV: Oblivion?
Such juicy lore! I can't believe I didn't find this channel sooner! Subbed my dood!
"This is a story all about how..."
This was still shorter than the amount of time it took esbern to read the damn thing