Joshua, I had a terrible time getting my FRSky R-XSR receivers to bind with my brand new Jumper T16 Pro V2 transmitter. I sent days upgrading and downgrading firmware on both the receivers and radio trying to fix the problem. Turned out to be a frequency tuning issue. I had to set the frequency to -40 under the internal RF module section just to get it to bind. That solved the problem. I haven't found any videos or blogs talking about this. I have owned 4 different manufacturer radios systems and never had to do anything like this. I had no idea.
Makes me happy to hear that you prioritize flying and get in some packs. You are an inspiration and I have as a goal now in 2020 to always pack a small flybag and make sure that I sneak away at least a few times a week and burn off a few packs. Keep up the good work! Enjoy all the vids.
Hi JB. Im trying to update my Tango II MPM but when I browse to SD card contents I cant see the bin file I dumped on there. Is there a different way to do the Tango II MPM Firmware update?
Gonna follow this video tomorrow to flash my tango 2 mpm, and I seen in your other video description for the tango 2 that I have to select “inverted” firmware. So if I’m plugging in the radio to the computer to update the mpm , then I wonder what is the point of the usb-c on the back of the mpm module ?
Wow Joshua, I just did that myself on the taranis and compiled the module to 1.3.0.67.... had to update the bootloader of the module tho (oldie atmega with almost no memory, but it werkz;-) ) Nice vid!
Just had an odd one JB, i updated 2 Jumper t16s at the same time (mine & a friends). both flashed fine but one t16 now says "no multi telemetry detected"
In my t16 pro the module status was saying something like "no multi telemetry" I had to open the radio, and press on the plugs of the internal module and now I have telemetry again, as well as able to flash the firmware.
what exactly did you move .. just got my new jumper t16 pro V2 (15.04.2020) and there is in module status: no multi telemetry detected. tried to relink some connections but does not work so far.. :-(
What about the lua scripts page? Ex second main page we can setup to show beta lua script or crossfire on the x9d. I’ve try everything on my T16 but doesn’t recognise lua script for second page. Any thoughts?
Mr Bardwell I have the tango 2 pro and the mpm and it wont update. I get a error meeeage and it fails to find the module. Please help me and if you know any guys in the dallas fort worth area that knows things like you can you point me in the direction of them
Module Status shows the channel order of the current firmware on the module, but that is not guaranteed to match your actual channel order in the model.
If i was on the fence about buying a t16 pro for combat robotics and drones, Do you think i should jsut get it now, or wait till one of the new versions comes out? My understanding is Jumper is releasing one, and another company "radio master" is releasing a copy of that with some changes to buttons.
I would wait. The radiomaster has USB C and internal charging, and is $135 instead of $160. I expect that jumper will probably release a radio with the same features, and probably the same price, so I would wait.
lots of fun I have upgraded my jumper T16 pro from 2.2.3 to 2.3.7 everything working but cannot bind to frysky x8r now. This has a boot-loader. I noticed in the model set up page module status number says V1.2.1.25 followed video above to correct this new update is v1.3.0.76, but when I went to flash sd card, I only have flash external multi, copy rename and delete. help please.
New Mobula6 board today (Crazybee F4FS Lite) which won't bind to my T16 (external module), but binds to my Turnigy TX. My Mobula6 binds to my T16 and Turnigy fine. I've spent too many hours trying to get this sorted, so I tried updating the firmware of my external module as per instructions in this video, but there's no "Flash Internal Multi" or "Flash External Multi" when I long press the scroll wheel on the multi-stm-opentx-aetr-inv-v1.3.0.53.bin file :( Do I need to update my T16 also? I feel like I'm about to go down an update rabbit hole...
Yes, you need to be running OpenTX 2.3.3+ for those menu options to show. To bind your mobula maybe try tweaking the freq setting? (never actually had that problem, just throwing out random thoughts)
@Filip Radelic Aha! Thanks for the info, I've been stung too many times from firmware/software upgrades over the decades that I now only upgrade when necessary - looks like it's necessary :) I'm completely stumped as to why my T16 binds perfectly fine to the Crazybee F4FS Lite in my Mobula6, but not the new Crazybee F4FS Lite board I received today. Both bind fine with my Turnigy (FlySky) TX.
The TBS Tango 2 with V3 board & MPM bay install has the MPM as an external unit. The MPM bay also has a USB connector. Got to be there for something. How do we update teh TBS MPM? Thanks.
Got edge tx and comes up with internal module requires updating. Followed you video but it does not come up on radio in sd card firmware to flash to module. Helpppppp
Damn, now my flysky shows protocol invalid, and you can't even select flysky under normal menu box, it ONLY shows up when you turn internal module on and off, then shows protocol invalid on line below it.??? Zorro remote used CC2500
Did this yesterday on my T16! could you do a video for setting up sounds on switches. i have my custom splash screen and back ground (Matrix looks cool) but would like some custom or std sounds for arming/disarming. just no idea how to go about it
ua-cam.com/video/2xt623VAMEk/v-deo.html Use that method but instead of logical switch to trigger the sound, use the physical switch (like SA_UP or whatever)
This was and is stilla huge issue to?e. I had to send me radio back to vendor to look at cuz this issue as well as the toggle wheel were acting screwy.. So hopefully all is well and they could fix my radio so i can actually use it instead of a paper weight
Yes you can. But for bind-n-fly aircraft, they may require a certain channel order. Flashing the correct channel-order firmware lets the module re-arrange the channels so the model sees what it expects and you still get to keep your own channel order.
That channel order is not supported. If you are using only multirotors with programmable flight controllers, then it doesn't matter. Just set your channel map to AERT in your flight controller, and all is well. But if you want to fly bind-n-fly aircraft that expect a certain pre-determined channel order, you won't be able to do it.
It depends if you want something that they do. If using CRSF or ELRS, yes you need them. ua-cam.com/video/RCS72GVR0gs/v-deo.html&ab_channel=JoshuaBardwell
You say to download the module based on your channel order, but it's my understanding that Frsky and the DSM family have different channel orders. So... then what?
The channel order only matters for certain bind-n-fly aircraft that require a specific channel order. For typical multirotors with flight controllers, this isn't an issue. Bottom line: pick a channel order and go with it.
Hey i just got my new 2020 Jumper T16 Pro Hall Version2 with usb c connector. I tried to bind my DSMX receiver but in modul status there is: no multi telemetri detected. so i startet to flash to the newest OpenTX software.. didnt change this .. so i tried to update the internal modul via PC .. but the flashing enden in an error massage. any ideas? please help me^^
The newest radios should ship with bootloader installed so you shouldn't need your PC to update the internal module. You should flash it from the SD Card.
@@JoshuaBardwell so i did exactly what you did in your videos for that.. first updated to Opent TX 2.3.7, and then tried to flash the internal module. when trying to flash from the internal usb card in firmware folder and click flash (multi-stm-opentx-aetr-noinv-v1.3.0.88.bin = newest) it starts and ends on the display with the message: Firmware update error, NoSync (RTN). never startet to write. I would be sooo glad if you can help me further and will donate for your help too!!
Joshua Bardwell so finally i got it binden to my dsmx receiver and I can control my copter.. but still this module status .. and still I can not Flash the internal Modul .. contacted the jumper support .. let’s see what’s wrong
@@JoshuaBardwell so i contacted jumper and they replied to update the internal module with external USB connector as described in your video. but still the same problem.. "no multi telemetry detected" and not able to flash from sd card.
JB have yuou had the keystuck issue yet, can you reach out for fix that isn't just remove and replace the ribbon. how embarrassing I had to edit because I spelt JB wrong.
@@kreisflieger Odd. I just updated this morning. I will double check the channels are responding but I did see the signal strength indicator showed it was talking.
Okay, I confirmed the channels are still operational. I'm not sure why this happened to you. Do you have OpenTX or JumperTX flashed to your Jumper T16?
Do you have a video installation of the external version jp 4 in 1 module? Or a wiring diagram and where the wires go?
Joshua, I had a terrible time getting my FRSky R-XSR receivers to bind with my brand new Jumper T16 Pro V2 transmitter. I sent days upgrading and downgrading firmware on both the receivers and radio trying to fix the problem. Turned out to be a frequency tuning issue. I had to set the frequency to -40 under the internal RF module section just to get it to bind. That solved the problem. I haven't found any videos or blogs talking about this. I have owned 4 different manufacturer radios systems and never had to do anything like this. I had no idea.
Makes me happy to hear that you prioritize flying and get in some packs. You are an inspiration and I have as a goal now in 2020 to always pack a small flybag and make sure that I sneak away at least a few times a week and burn off a few packs. Keep up the good work! Enjoy all the vids.
Nice video! What if I was dumb enough to install the wrong firmware? Is there a fix for that?
Hi JB.
Im trying to update my Tango II MPM but when I browse to SD card contents I cant see the bin file I dumped on there. Is there a different way to do the Tango II MPM Firmware update?
Thanks Joshua saved me again,,,, mr PAINLESS explanation was so confusing
Gonna follow this video tomorrow to flash my tango 2 mpm, and I seen in your other video description for the tango 2 that I have to select “inverted” firmware. So if I’m plugging in the radio to the computer to update the mpm , then I wonder what is the point of the usb-c on the back of the mpm module ?
Hay Josh I just had to hit the subscribe button hell I've been a patron for 2 months
When you plugged in the Jumper to the PC, was the Jumper ON or OFF? Thank you for the video!!
On
Wow Joshua, I just did that myself on the taranis and compiled the module to 1.3.0.67.... had to update the bootloader of the module tho (oldie atmega with almost no memory, but it werkz;-) ) Nice vid!
Gday JB, thanks for helping me fix my t16 very awsome.👍🛸
Just had an odd one JB, i updated 2 Jumper t16s at the same time (mine & a friends). both flashed fine but one t16 now says "no multi telemetry detected"
Dude you're a life saver. How do you think to do a video on something like this and how do you figure this stuff out.
I read it on rcgroups
In my t16 pro the module status was saying something like "no multi telemetry"
I had to open the radio, and press on the plugs of the internal module and now I have telemetry again, as well as able to flash the firmware.
I had the exact same issue. I had to move things a little and then it was fixed.
same problem..didn't work. bs is what this is. jumper shit
what exactly did you move .. just got my new jumper t16 pro V2 (15.04.2020) and there is in module status: no multi telemetry detected. tried to relink some connections but does not work so far.. :-(
@@mariusfis2424 i dont remember. Just try an reseat some of the wires
I have a JumperT16 and when I long press the .bin on the radio I only get the cut/copy/rename/delete options.
What about the lua scripts page? Ex second main page we can setup to show beta lua script or crossfire on the x9d.
I’ve try everything on my T16 but doesn’t recognise lua script for second page. Any thoughts?
Mr Bardwell I have the tango 2 pro and the mpm and it wont update. I get a error meeeage and it fails to find the module. Please help me and if you know any guys in the dallas fort worth area that knows things like you can you point me in the direction of them
i learned where to find the channel order.
you can also see the channel order in model setup which i find easier. its next to module status
@@MoodyDemiGod in fact there is in various places but for me was different so i was confused
Module Status shows the channel order of the current firmware on the module, but that is not guaranteed to match your actual channel order in the model.
If i was on the fence about buying a t16 pro for combat robotics and drones, Do you think i should jsut get it now, or wait till one of the new versions comes out? My understanding is Jumper is releasing one, and another company "radio master" is releasing a copy of that with some changes to buttons.
I would wait. The radiomaster has USB C and internal charging, and is $135 instead of $160. I expect that jumper will probably release a radio with the same features, and probably the same price, so I would wait.
@@JoshuaBardwell thank you for the response. I'll be keeping an eye out for affiliat links from you for either of them.
lots of fun I have upgraded my jumper T16 pro from 2.2.3 to 2.3.7 everything working but cannot bind to frysky x8r now. This has a boot-loader. I noticed in the model set up page module status number says V1.2.1.25 followed video above to correct this new update is v1.3.0.76, but when I went to flash sd card, I only have flash external multi, copy rename and delete. help please.
Fantastic, Joshua! Thanks a lot! 😃
After updating appears "No telemetría (activa MULTI_TELEM
(My language setting is spanish)
Is this correct? How can I activate telemetry?
New Mobula6 board today (Crazybee F4FS Lite) which won't bind to my T16 (external module), but binds to my Turnigy TX.
My Mobula6 binds to my T16 and Turnigy fine. I've spent too many hours trying to get this sorted, so I tried updating the firmware of my external module as per instructions in this video, but there's no "Flash Internal Multi" or "Flash External Multi" when I long press the scroll wheel on the multi-stm-opentx-aetr-inv-v1.3.0.53.bin file :( Do I need to update my T16 also?
I feel like I'm about to go down an update rabbit hole...
Yes, you need to be running OpenTX 2.3.3+ for those menu options to show. To bind your mobula maybe try tweaking the freq setting? (never actually had that problem, just throwing out random thoughts)
@Filip Radelic Aha! Thanks for the info, I've been stung too many times from firmware/software upgrades over the decades that I now only upgrade when necessary - looks like it's necessary :)
I'm completely stumped as to why my T16 binds perfectly fine to the Crazybee F4FS Lite in my Mobula6, but not the new Crazybee F4FS Lite board I received today. Both bind fine with my Turnigy (FlySky) TX.
Will I need to re-bind all my models now?
I did not have to re-bind after update.
@@JoshuaBardwell Thank you, I just updated and yes, no need to re-bind. :-)
The TBS Tango 2 with V3 board & MPM bay install has the MPM as an external unit. The MPM bay also has a USB connector. Got to be there for something. How do we update teh TBS MPM? Thanks.
Same as this. Just flash it by putting the file on the internal module and "flash internal".
@@JoshuaBardwell You must mean External since the MPM is attached to the bay. The Tango 2's internal is the Crossfire.
This used to be a fun hobby. Not anymore
Done. I needed the USB to module method, but thankfully not the USB to TTL route.
Is it possible to change the back ground display on the T16?
Is there another solution to the "key stuck" issue besides switching the ribbons because that did not work?
Brilliant...... Thank you
Got edge tx and comes up with internal module requires updating. Followed you video but it does not come up on radio in sd card firmware to flash to module. Helpppppp
Make sure you put the bin file in the firmware folder. Not the zip file or anything else.
So is safe now to update the jumpertx to opentx no issues so far?
Damn, now my flysky shows protocol invalid, and you can't even select flysky under normal menu box, it ONLY shows up when you turn internal module on and off, then shows protocol invalid on line below it.??? Zorro remote used CC2500
Thank you! That message was driving me crazy lol
I'm getting a firmware update error NoSync. can you help please.
Thank you this fixed my issue I was having!
Did this yesterday on my T16! could you do a video for setting up sounds on switches. i have my custom splash screen and back ground (Matrix looks cool) but would like some custom or std sounds for arming/disarming. just no idea how to go about it
ua-cam.com/video/2xt623VAMEk/v-deo.html
Use that method but instead of logical switch to trigger the sound, use the physical switch (like SA_UP or whatever)
@@JoshuaBardwell thank you JB
You ROCK!!
When r u gonna post the giveaway winners :))))))
This was and is stilla huge issue to?e. I had to send me radio back to vendor to look at cuz this issue as well as the toggle wheel were acting screwy.. So hopefully all is well and they could fix my radio so i can actually use it instead of a paper weight
Very useful. thanks.
I seem to have a problem with my T16 pro...
When i scroll down or up, it will always scroll up. Any ideas ?
Open it up and Flip the ribbon cable. Sucks that you have to do it. You can always send it back to the vendor under warranty if you prefer.
@@JoshuaBardwell IT WORKS !!!
I've looked all over the internet for several hours with no luck...
THIS MAN KNOWS HIS STUFF :D
You called the jumper a " taranis" multiple times. I know what you meant.
@J.P. Sayer Sucks for them. Frsky can suck it.
Why not....taranis is still ok
@@M-H433 taranis is a different radio altogether.
Thank u jb for this video
How do I recover a lost boot loader on my T12. I flashed the Taranis boot loader and now the radio can’t even be turned on. Help!!
Feels good when i do this before jb
😂 same
Can you just change the channel order per each model like in er9x?
Yes you can. But for bind-n-fly aircraft, they may require a certain channel order. Flashing the correct channel-order firmware lets the module re-arrange the channels so the model sees what it expects and you still get to keep your own channel order.
which option do I choose if my channel order is AERT?
That channel order is not supported. If you are using only multirotors with programmable flight controllers, then it doesn't matter. Just set your channel map to AERT in your flight controller, and all is well. But if you want to fly bind-n-fly aircraft that expect a certain pre-determined channel order, you won't be able to do it.
do I need Lewis Scripts on my radiomaster tx16s
It depends if you want something that they do. If using CRSF or ELRS, yes you need them. ua-cam.com/video/RCS72GVR0gs/v-deo.html&ab_channel=JoshuaBardwell
You say to download the module based on your channel order, but it's my understanding that Frsky and the DSM family have different channel orders. So... then what?
The channel order only matters for certain bind-n-fly aircraft that require a specific channel order. For typical multirotors with flight controllers, this isn't an issue. Bottom line: pick a channel order and go with it.
I’ll remember this when I win the giveaway one! So stoked to get that new back T16!
un grand merci
Hey i just got my new 2020 Jumper T16 Pro Hall Version2 with usb c connector. I tried to bind my DSMX receiver but in modul status there is: no multi telemetri detected. so i startet to flash to the newest OpenTX software.. didnt change this .. so i tried to update the internal modul via PC .. but the flashing enden in an error massage. any ideas? please help me^^
The newest radios should ship with bootloader installed so you shouldn't need your PC to update the internal module. You should flash it from the SD Card.
@@JoshuaBardwell so i did exactly what you did in your videos for that.. first updated to Opent TX 2.3.7, and then tried to flash the internal module. when trying to flash from the internal usb card in firmware folder and click flash (multi-stm-opentx-aetr-noinv-v1.3.0.88.bin = newest) it starts and ends on the display with the message: Firmware update error, NoSync (RTN). never startet to write. I would be sooo glad if you can help me further and will donate for your help too!!
is says "device reset..." and then i have this warning
Joshua Bardwell so finally i got it binden to my dsmx receiver and I can control my copter.. but still this module status .. and still I can not Flash the internal Modul .. contacted the jumper support .. let’s see what’s wrong
@@JoshuaBardwell so i contacted jumper and they replied to update the internal module with external USB connector as described in your video. but still the same problem.. "no multi telemetry detected" and not able to flash from sd card.
Thank you so much!!!!!!!
JB have yuou had the keystuck issue yet, can you reach out for fix that isn't just remove and replace the ribbon. how embarrassing I had to edit because I spelt JB wrong.
Thanks buddy
Anyone know why my radio switches don't work on any simulator after 2.3.6 update?
So when are you gonna dump the Jump for the other 1......?..I wait in Awe..
then i mark my file and hold down the roller, i dont get those alternatives.... i get Copy, Rename and Delete only..
This means that the file is not a .FRK file or the file is not in the FIRMWARES folder on the SD card.
@@JoshuaBardwell Firmware folder on SD-Card. file name "multi-stm-opentx-aetr-noinv-v1.3.0.87.bin"
@@JoshuaBardwell but i have the version without bootloader, so i need to order and solder stuff..
After an update of the multimodule, all receivers have to bind again. Is there a solution for this?
I have full signal strength after the update with no rebinding. I was v1.3.0.48. Where you updating from this version as well?
Michael Muehr Yes I updated from 1.30.48 to 1.3.0.53.
@@kreisflieger Odd. I just updated this morning. I will double check the channels are responding but I did see the signal strength indicator showed it was talking.
Okay, I confirmed the channels are still operational. I'm not sure why this happened to you. Do you have OpenTX or JumperTX flashed to your Jumper T16?
Michael Muehr OpenTX
Youre about 1 month late joshua! I had to do this when I got my radio!
Quick and dirty 😂😂😂👍👊🤔🤘
You know you have a Taranis too long when you still call a Jumper T16 one XD
Bro this doesn’t work on Mac. Why is nobody using macs?????????!
no multi telemetry. what is this. hour and hours watching videos. tryiny to flash. nothing works.
Stephen Power same here since couple of days.. did you find a solution in the meanwhile ?