Came across this “fine-tuning” with the internal module of the Jumper T16 Pro for genuine FrSky (and other) receivers & did a little research. Wanted to pass on what I found to others. Let me know what your fine-tuning number is and what receiver you’re using so we can all compare! 👍😀Also, if you're wondering whether or not the multi module will bind to your receiver, here's a link to a very short video clip of me scrolling through all of the protocols displayed by the internal module. Keep in mind each protocol may have a few specific receivers within it (i.e. Hitec has Optima, Minima, Opt Hub). I obviously, have not verified myself that each one of these displayed protocols binds to the module. Here's the link: drive.google.com/file/d/1H_VGiwy7iQiOCDfWnJlxe3O1AfT-ob2d/view?usp=sharing
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This option is not listed in my radio. I have the exact same radio and firmware version but this freq tune isn't a listed option.
Ended up on the positive side 17 with my fhss Futaba micro receiver. Improved the performance significantly. Before fine tuning it would failsafe for nothing. Now there are no problem flying behind buildings and I get about 900 meters range with free sight between me and the quad. Great video. 💪🏻👌🏻
Thanks DDS LLC, that's great to hear! It's why I make them. Do my best to remember where I came from and make it easier for others to enjoy FPV flight! Have a great weekend 😁👍
@@TMacFPV newbeedrone. How would I be able to tell. Lol it's not here yet. But it does say compatible with jumper tx or open tx. Hey friend me on Facebook Danny McClinton if that's cool if ya don't mind me picking your brain on it when it comes in
@@fpvxtreem2011 went to "Friend" you and we already are!😁All you have to do to check is govtivRadio Setup menu and page over to firmware version. It will either say JumperTX or I'll bet you're gonna get one with OpenTX v2.3.2 on it
Just did this with my Futaba R2008SB S-FHSS receivers and the median number is 25. Raw numbers were -14 on the low side, and +65 on the high. Since you asked (and maybe you could be the central person to compile the info) I thought I'd contribute my data points. I'm flying DJI HD goggles and BF gives me RSSI readings, so will be able to confirm the values, perhaps as early as tomorrow. Be well!
Are you attempting frequency tuning because they do not bind? FlySky receivers should not require it. See procedures here www.multi-module.org/using-the-module/frequency-tuning
Your OpenTX operating system firmware is distinct and different than your multi-protocol module firmware. This video shows the difference and how they work together ua-cam.com/video/xAmCWIwzlKc/v-deo.html . The RF Fine Tune feature should be in your model setup menu near where you normally bind the receiver to your transmitter,just below receiver number under Internal RF Module. If your Internal RF Module is OFF because you happen to be using Crossfire (or an R9) system on that particular model, it will not be displayed.
Hey H2O- Lobo ! You're welcome, happy to share and thank you for your kind words. Welcome aboard! Perhaps check out my tmacfpv.com site for other beginner-friendly stuff, if interested. Take care friend & Clear skies! Happy Flyday!
All R-XSRs should "tune" the same. All XM+ should tune the same etc, It may be slightly different from an R-XSR to an XM+ but the process is so simple and quick you can always check it out (even for specific receivers) in just a few moments
No worries 👍 It's located in the battery compartment on the back of transmitter. Gently push it in and let go with fingernail (or I use a toothpick) and it pops out further so you can grab it and remove it
Hlo sir i am from Nepal i bought jumpert16 pro but the proble with Frsky x8r is its range is just too low its just 300 to 400 metres i am just confused what to do
Thanks for your question-there MAY be a slight difference between FrSkyD and FrSkyV protocols, however, I have no way of confirming that at this point. If you get a fine-tuning value for an FrSky R-XSR receiver then that value should be good for any other R-XSR receiver. Regardless, it only takes a couple minutes to perform this process. Would like to see what values you come up with!
Hello there Sir. Loved all your helpful vids. Wondering if you can make a video on how to compile or patch the file or firmware on T16 to resolve the issues on DSM / DSMX. Would really appreciate it very much. Thanks
hmmmm . . . what OpenTX AND multimoduile (the 2 different) firmware versions do you have installed? I believe the DSM was fixed back in version 47 or so of OpenTX. Also, in a more recent version of the multimodule firmware a "fix" was made for telemetry on DSM telemetry receivers. For clarification on differences between OpenTX and multimodule firmware,see this video: ua-cam.com/video/xAmCWIwzlKc/v-deo.html For the latest OpenTX firmware version, go here: www.open-tx.org/downloads For lates multimodule firmware go here: www.multi-module.org/ For how to update OpenTX firmware, see this video: ua-cam.com/video/BXhLk_l6280/v-deo.html For how to update multi-module firmware, see this video: ua-cam.com/video/EJx9mz-DI_g/v-deo.html Hope this helps!
@TMac Ok, thank you Sir. I’m gonna try and see if I can update the internal multi module in my T16. Yesterday I did update to the latest firmware. Thank you so much.
@TMac Under Model Setup, Model Status mine says “No MULTI_TELEMETRY detected” I’ve downloaded the latest firmware for the Multi Module, and when I go in my radio under SD Card, firmware to update it doesn’t give me the option to update the module internally. It gives me this option instead, flash External Module, Copy, Rename and Delete. For some reason I don’t know why Internal Multi is not showing up.
Thank you for a very good guide. However, I would like to suggest one change - if the receiver lies next to the transmitter, the range of both values will be very wide, because the signal is strong. If the receiver would be far away, e.g. 500m away - I think we would find the "centre" much more precisely (it doesn't always have to be the "mathematical" centre of the band)
You can set the module to low power - it's a checkbox further down. Remember to set it back after tuning - the radio will warn you when you turn the TX on in case you forget.
You should be able to tell when you lose signal connection with your receiver by watching the LED lights on it. So, if you use the process in this video and do not have "voice alarms" set watch for the LED lights on the receiver. The green LED light will turn red when signal is lost on both the "low end" and "high end."
Thanks for your video. I think you just answered my question about whether the T16 will bind with my hitec optima receivers. I’ve asked the question and received different answers or no answers at all. Just need a definitive answer before spending some dollars.
Hey Peter! You're welcome friend. I do not have a Hitec Optima receiver to test binding for you, however, here's a link to a very short video clip of me scrolling through all of the protocols displayed by the internal module. Keep in mind each protocol may have a few specific receivers within it (i.e. Hitec has Optima, Minima). At the 21 sec point of this short video clip you'll see the internal module does display Hitec Optima. Internal module also displays Opt Hub and Optima Minima (not shown in the clip though). That tells me it "should" bind to it, however, once again, I cannot confirm this myself. Here's the link: drive.google.com/file/d/1H_VGiwy7iQiOCDfWnJlxe3O1AfT-ob2d/view?usp=sharing
TMac thanks worked no problem. Thanks very much. I actually contacted a retailer and was told”we’ve checked the website and doesn’t look like it will bind”. Also searched and found a thread where part of the discussion said it would bind but you would have to manually tune as you have shown here. As I’m am out in country Australia and have to basically learn and buy over the interweb I really appreciate people like yourself so willing to share and help out. Looks like it will work together,so thank you so much again.
Don't have to do this with FlySky ;D With my new jumper T16 I get LITERALLy 13X-15X better range than with my FlySky i6. Where before I got 6 RSSI I now get 87, it's INSANE what a difference this TX has made!
This should be done for either the internal or external. The way I understand it if you do it for a Frsky rx then that number should work for all Frsky rx’s
Hey Gramps Ramblings! Thanks for your comment. 👍 That is my understanding as well. There MAY be a slight difference between FrSkyD and FrSkyV protocols, however, I have no way of confirming that at this point. Regardless, it only takes a couple minutes to perform this process
I go through the math at 2-4 minutes of this video. You want the number which is equidistance between the low and high endpoints (signal low lost & signal high lost). So, if your signal low lost is at -30 and your signal high lost is at +20. The number you want is -5 which is the same distance from -30 as it is from +20. Hope that helps
Hey My Drone Stories! Not sure if you're being serious or sarcastic, but let me give you my rationale. Well, for me I've had the Taranis Q X7 for over a year. then I dropped it down my stairs during a "durability test." I had been looking at the Jumper T16 for awhile because FrSky came out with ACCESS protocol which is more of a "closed", proprietary system (and on that I don't have with my Q X7). I was concerned that FrSky would be doing away with the ACCST protocol in their receivers and I would either by forced by FrSky to purchase new ACCESS gear eventually or go with something else. I held out for awhile because I was not comfortable with relying on Jumper support for their own "branch" of OpenTX (JumperTX). Jumper isn't known for their firmware/software. Then OpenTX (same folks who support FrSky transmitters) has announced they will be supporting firmware updates of the Jumper T16 soon with official releases. Nightly, unofficial releases are already out and being tried. That did it for me. The T16 has more switches (i.e. versatility) than the Taranis Q X7, has an internal multi-protocl module which will bind to most any receiver, has an external bay for Crossfire or R9M modules (long-range 900 Mhz systems), a big screen, AND OpenTX support?!? The price is right and I'm also not being "cornered" into purchasing ONLY CCESS protocol systems. I can't think of anything Jumper left out. Great value TX.
@@TMacFPV It was/is a serious question. I did some more research after posting my question and found essentially the same answer you gave. Kind of bummed because I just got an X7 to get started in the hobby...
@@thebikeracer no need to be bummed. It's a very good transmitter! I still have another one (not dropped downstairs🤪) that I'm using as a backup. I've even got R9M module connected with it. FrSky is still making receivers compatible with it and so are other manufacturers. Just be careful not to try ACCESS stuff with it and you've still got a VERY nice transmitter. You have actually made a very good choice! I personally would not be saying that if you purchased an ACCESS protocol transmitter. That's just my opinion as I'm sure others have and thoroughly enjoy their setup. I just prefer not to be restricted to one closed system. With your QX7 you can also add an external multi-protocol module which does the same thing as the internal module of the T16👍😁
Yeah, what TMac said. I have a QX7s and it's a really nice radio. I switched to the jumper for the reasons he mentioned and because I pinch the sticks and the QX7 just never felt comfortable for me because of how wide it is. I also fly planes, which are all spektrum and have a few toy-grade helis and stuff so the internal multi module was a big selling point since it can handle all of those and also leaves the module bay open to add crossfire without having to switch modules. It's a great all-in-one solution. Plus, that screen is pretty nice!
Came across this “fine-tuning” with the internal module of the Jumper T16 Pro for genuine FrSky (and other) receivers & did a little research. Wanted to pass on what I found to others. Let me know what your fine-tuning number is and what receiver you’re using so we can all compare! 👍😀Also, if you're wondering whether or not the multi module will bind to your receiver, here's a link to a very short video clip of me scrolling through all of the protocols displayed by the internal module. Keep in mind each protocol may have a few specific receivers within it (i.e. Hitec has Optima, Minima, Opt Hub). I obviously, have not verified myself that each one of these displayed protocols binds to the module. Here's the link: drive.google.com/file/d/1H_VGiwy7iQiOCDfWnJlxe3O1AfT-ob2d/view?usp=sharing
This option is not listed in my radio. I have the exact same radio and firmware version but this freq tune isn't a listed option.
Ended up on the positive side 17 with my fhss Futaba micro receiver. Improved the performance significantly. Before fine tuning it would failsafe for nothing. Now there are no problem flying behind buildings and I get about 900 meters range with free sight between me and the quad. Great video. 💪🏻👌🏻
Oh yeah! That's what I'm talkin' about!💪Nice👍Thanks for sharing your success 🙏😁
Thanks, TMac.....As a newbie, your videos have solved many of my issues.
Thanks DDS LLC, that's great to hear! It's why I make them. Do my best to remember where I came from and make it easier for others to enjoy FPV flight! Have a great weekend 😁👍
Appreciate your videos!!! Thanks for sharing the knowledge!
You're very welcome Bernard! Thank you for your support! 👍😁
Wow awesome brother!!! Great too for sure I just ordered the T16 pro
Thanks so much! 🙏Very cool you ordered one! 🤩Where from? It may come with a version of OpenTX installed
@@TMacFPV newbeedrone. How would I be able to tell. Lol it's not here yet. But it does say compatible with jumper tx or open tx. Hey friend me on Facebook Danny McClinton if that's cool if ya don't mind me picking your brain on it when it comes in
@@fpvxtreem2011 went to "Friend" you and we already are!😁All you have to do to check is govtivRadio Setup menu and page over to firmware version. It will either say JumperTX or I'll bet you're gonna get one with OpenTX v2.3.2 on it
@@TMacFPV lol that would be great. I messaged you
New sub awesome video! Thanks for the pointers! Got my like
Thanks TMac. Another informative video.
😁 Happy flying Vincent!
TMac non-stop rain for the past few days so my only flying is on Velocidrone. Good news is that all my crashes don’t matter. 😂
@@vincents3334 I know, right?! Storming here now. Got 1 flight in today
You Rock TMac, I also have a different picture for my splash page and a Mig 29 Fulcrum as my background thanks to you
Thanks Zaineman! Appreciate you sharing your success story! Clear skies friend!
Thanks, J. K. Simmons!
Sure!👍
Just did this with my Futaba R2008SB S-FHSS receivers and the median number is 25. Raw numbers were -14 on the low side, and +65 on the high. Since you asked (and maybe you could be the central person to compile the info) I thought I'd contribute my data points. I'm flying DJI HD goggles and BF gives me RSSI readings, so will be able to confirm the values, perhaps as early as tomorrow. Be well!
Outstanding Frank! You too stay safe, clear skies, and fly fearlessly 👍
Hola yo he echo lo mismo pero me da un valor de 44 en positivo,es normal por veo que el suyo da bastante menos
Gracias
Will this also work on spektrum rx?
Not necessary for Spektrum receivers - see this link: github.com/pascallanger/DIY-Multiprotocol-TX-Module/blob/master/docs/Frequency_Tuning.md
Thanks for sharing. I got a -12.5 setting my newbee drone acrobee lite. I just rounded it up to -13.
Sounds good HighMetal👍Have a blast🤩
Hello, I have the Radiomaster and 3 Flysky recievers… the option dosent enable… Do you have any idea?
Are you attempting frequency tuning because they do not bind? FlySky receivers should not require it. See procedures here www.multi-module.org/using-the-module/frequency-tuning
Strange, my Jumper T16 with latest opentx firmware does not show this option rf freg finetune. How is that possible?
Your OpenTX operating system firmware is distinct and different than your multi-protocol module firmware. This video shows the difference and how they work together ua-cam.com/video/xAmCWIwzlKc/v-deo.html . The RF Fine Tune feature should be in your model setup menu near where you normally bind the receiver to your transmitter,just below receiver number under Internal RF Module. If your Internal RF Module is OFF because you happen to be using Crossfire (or an R9) system on that particular model, it will not be displayed.
Great video but why does is this not necessary when using FRsky Transmitter.
Thank you! Due to multi-module. Check this out www.multi-module.org/using-the-module/frequency-tuning
Do you need to do this with spektrum receivers? Thanks.
No you do not, please see github.com/pascallanger/DIY-Multiprotocol-TX-Module/blob/master/docs/Frequency_Tuning.md
@@TMacFPV Thank you.
@@joeg986 You're quite welcome Joe! 👍
Great video thank very much I'll be following ur channel I'm new so I want to get the best out of my radio
Hey H2O- Lobo
! You're welcome, happy to share and thank you for your kind words. Welcome aboard! Perhaps check out my tmacfpv.com site for other beginner-friendly stuff, if interested. Take care friend & Clear skies! Happy Flyday!
Should each type of receiver have the same time? i.e. rxsr will always need the same tune? Or will all FrSky be the same tune?
All R-XSRs should "tune" the same. All XM+ should tune the same etc, It may be slightly different from an R-XSR to an XM+ but the process is so simple and quick you can always check it out (even for specific receivers) in just a few moments
Thanks for the info.
Hello, would you make a video of the trainer menu
VG
Artur
I hope this isn't a dumb question but how do you take out the sd card?
No worries 👍 It's located in the battery compartment on the back of transmitter. Gently push it in and let go with fingernail (or I use a toothpick) and it pops out further so you can grab it and remove it
Thank you very much!
@@emilgabl9069 Sure, anytime!😀
Hlo sir i am from Nepal i bought jumpert16 pro but the proble with Frsky x8r is its range is just too low its just 300 to 400 metres i am just confused what to do
How can you do this with a xm+ receiver and no telemetry? And shouldn't you be listening for rx signal lossed not telemetry loss
Hey GazB, please see multi-module.org for complete explanation of frequency tuning: www.multi-module.org/using-the-module/frequency-tuning
so this number is valid only for one Rx model? i would think all FrSky Rxs are tuned the same
Thanks for your question-there MAY be a slight difference between FrSkyD and FrSkyV protocols, however, I have no way of confirming that at this point. If you get a fine-tuning value for an FrSky R-XSR receiver then that value should be good for any other R-XSR receiver. Regardless, it only takes a couple minutes to perform this process. Would like to see what values you come up with!
how do you do it for xmplus receivers i tried it and could not get it to say telementry loss i'm confused
XM+ only output RSSI not full telemetry
Hello there Sir. Loved all your helpful vids. Wondering if you can make a video on how to compile or patch the file or firmware on T16 to resolve the issues on DSM / DSMX. Would really appreciate it very much. Thanks
hmmmm . . . what OpenTX AND multimoduile (the 2 different) firmware versions do you have installed? I believe the DSM was fixed back in version 47 or so of OpenTX. Also, in a more recent version of the multimodule firmware a "fix" was made for telemetry on DSM telemetry receivers. For clarification on differences between OpenTX and multimodule firmware,see this video: ua-cam.com/video/xAmCWIwzlKc/v-deo.html For the latest OpenTX firmware version, go here: www.open-tx.org/downloads For lates multimodule firmware go here: www.multi-module.org/ For how to update OpenTX firmware, see this video: ua-cam.com/video/BXhLk_l6280/v-deo.html For how to update multi-module firmware, see this video: ua-cam.com/video/EJx9mz-DI_g/v-deo.html Hope this helps!
@TMac
Ok, thank you Sir. I’m gonna try and see if I can update the internal multi module in my T16. Yesterday I did update to the latest firmware.
Thank you so much.
@@scrc511 Sure, scrc511! Today's video (Friday, April 24th) might be of interest. Posts at 2:00 pm EDT (UTC-4 hrs)
@TMac
Under Model Setup, Model Status mine says “No MULTI_TELEMETRY detected” I’ve downloaded the latest firmware for the Multi Module, and when I go in my radio under SD Card, firmware to update it doesn’t give me the option to update the module internally. It gives me this option instead, flash External Module, Copy, Rename and Delete. For some reason I don’t know why Internal Multi is not showing up.
Thank you for a very good guide.
However, I would like to suggest one change - if the receiver lies next to the transmitter, the range of both values will be very wide, because the signal is strong.
If the receiver would be far away, e.g. 500m away - I think we would find the "centre" much more precisely (it doesn't always have to be the "mathematical" centre of the band)
You can set the module to low power - it's a checkbox further down. Remember to set it back after tuning - the radio will warn you when you turn the TX on in case you forget.
Subbed!
Does it work with NON telimetry recievers, IE, Futaba 617 recievers
Hey paulinfrance5! The receivers which require frequency tuning are listed here: www.multi-module.org/using-the-module/frequency-tuning
How do you do this without rssi?
You should be able to tell when you lose signal connection with your receiver by watching the LED lights on it. So, if you use the process in this video and do not have "voice alarms" set watch for the LED lights on the receiver. The green LED light will turn red when signal is lost on both the "low end" and "high end."
Thank you answering this question @Tmac and thank you for asking the question @Big Willie FPV My xm+ ended up being -24.5
Thanks for your video. I think you just answered my question about whether the T16 will bind with my hitec optima receivers. I’ve asked the question and received different answers or no answers at all. Just need a definitive answer before spending some dollars.
Hey Peter! You're welcome friend. I do not have a Hitec Optima receiver to test binding for you, however, here's a link to a very short video clip of me scrolling through all of the protocols displayed by the internal module. Keep in mind each protocol may have a few specific receivers within it (i.e. Hitec has Optima, Minima). At the 21 sec point of this short video clip you'll see the internal module does display Hitec Optima. Internal module also displays Opt Hub and Optima Minima (not shown in the clip though). That tells me it "should" bind to it, however, once again, I cannot confirm this myself. Here's the link:
drive.google.com/file/d/1H_VGiwy7iQiOCDfWnJlxe3O1AfT-ob2d/view?usp=sharing
TMac thanks really appreciate your reply. Thanks again
@@peterlehmannl5972 try this new link above (made new one) & let me know if it works - had wrong permissions on old one, my bad
TMac thanks worked no problem. Thanks very much. I actually contacted a retailer and was told”we’ve checked the website and doesn’t look like it will bind”. Also searched and found a thread where part of the discussion said it would bind but you would have to manually tune as you have shown here. As I’m am out in country Australia and have to basically learn and buy over the interweb I really appreciate people like yourself so willing to share and help out.
Looks like it will work together,so thank you so much again.
@@peterlehmannl5972 You are more than welcome Peter. I understand your situation. I've been in remote places myself before!
Don't have to do this with FlySky ;D With my new jumper T16 I get LITERALLy 13X-15X better range than with my FlySky i6. Where before I got 6 RSSI I now get 87, it's INSANE what a difference this TX has made!
wow i love that drone where can I buy
Thanks! You can get the fully-built version here: usa.banggood.com/custlink/KGDYhVbYVQ or just the frame kit here: bit.ly/Arrow3Hyb
This should be done for either the internal or external. The way I understand it if you do it for a Frsky rx then that number should work for all Frsky rx’s
Hey Gramps Ramblings! Thanks for your comment. 👍 That is my understanding as well. There MAY be a slight difference between FrSkyD and FrSkyV protocols, however, I have no way of confirming that at this point. Regardless, it only takes a couple minutes to perform this process
Do you want the middle number or half the middle number?
I go through the math at 2-4 minutes of this video. You want the number which is equidistance between the low and high endpoints (signal low lost & signal high lost). So, if your signal low lost is at -30 and your signal high lost is at +20. The number you want is -5 which is the same distance from -30 as it is from +20. Hope that helps
Your name looks very familiar 🤔
That's Great! 😆👍
Why all of sudden is there so much hype about the Jumper TX?
Hey My Drone Stories! Not sure if you're being serious or sarcastic, but let me give you my rationale. Well, for me I've had the Taranis Q X7 for over a year. then I dropped it down my stairs during a "durability test." I had been looking at the Jumper T16 for awhile because FrSky came out with ACCESS protocol which is more of a "closed", proprietary system (and on that I don't have with my Q X7). I was concerned that FrSky would be doing away with the ACCST protocol in their receivers and I would either by forced by FrSky to purchase new ACCESS gear eventually or go with something else. I held out for awhile because I was not comfortable with relying on Jumper support for their own "branch" of OpenTX (JumperTX). Jumper isn't known for their firmware/software. Then OpenTX (same folks who support FrSky transmitters) has announced they will be supporting firmware updates of the Jumper T16 soon with official releases. Nightly, unofficial releases are already out and being tried. That did it for me. The T16 has more switches (i.e. versatility) than the Taranis Q X7, has an internal multi-protocl module which will bind to most any receiver, has an external bay for Crossfire or R9M modules (long-range 900 Mhz systems), a big screen, AND OpenTX support?!? The price is right and I'm also not being "cornered" into purchasing ONLY CCESS protocol systems. I can't think of anything Jumper left out. Great value TX.
@@TMacFPV It was/is a serious question. I did some more research after posting my question and found essentially the same answer you gave. Kind of bummed because I just got an X7 to get started in the hobby...
@@thebikeracer no need to be bummed. It's a very good transmitter! I still have another one (not dropped downstairs🤪) that I'm using as a backup. I've even got R9M module connected with it. FrSky is still making receivers compatible with it and so are other manufacturers. Just be careful not to try ACCESS stuff with it and you've still got a VERY nice transmitter. You have actually made a very good choice! I personally would not be saying that if you purchased an ACCESS protocol transmitter. That's just my opinion as I'm sure others have and thoroughly enjoy their setup. I just prefer not to be restricted to one closed system. With your QX7 you can also add an external multi-protocol module which does the same thing as the internal module of the T16👍😁
Yeah, what TMac said. I have a QX7s and it's a really nice radio. I switched to the jumper for the reasons he mentioned and because I pinch the sticks and the QX7 just never felt comfortable for me because of how wide it is. I also fly planes, which are all spektrum and have a few toy-grade helis and stuff so the internal multi module was a big selling point since it can handle all of those and also leaves the module bay open to add crossfire without having to switch modules. It's a great all-in-one solution. Plus, that screen is pretty nice!