the GMC doesn't have better brakes. The Lincoln was traveling at a faster speed and it is heavier. that means it takes longer to slow down. You guys just had to find SOMETHING bad about the Navigator to make this comparison sort of equal (Cup holders). The Lincoln is obviously the better one in this review.
2022 and Yukons are still everywhere but, I hardly ever see any Navigators on the road. GM still using the 6.2 and 5.3 in 2022. These Yukon XL are still going for good pricing all these years later. That’s says a lot.
The drag race wasn't a surprise to me. With the XL being heavier and both being over a mile above sea level I expected the outcome. Both nice trucks. I'd drive either if they were free because that's the only way I could get one.
no replacement for the twin turbo ecoboost. This engine is extremely capable of producing even greater hp and tq only with a little tune. Nathan is a hater for turbo engines and just loves the V8. I definitely sensed how Nathan was constantly "trying" to find points to prove Yukon is a better truck haha. Keep trying buddy.
The Fast Lane Truck You guys need to stop being so rude to your fans, all he did was ask where the review was because in this video Nathan says you already saw it on your channel. You dont have to immediately become hostile. I have watched every video you guys have posted on both your channels, and read many comments, and i appreciate the information you give, but you guys are really short tempered to your fans....when every any one asks about a video you explode at them like " do you even know how hard it is to make videos?!" Just calm down, not everyone knows your schedules.
i dont have a problem with how they upload, or their content, this is one of my favorite channels, the problem is how they respond to feedback from their community. They are very quick to get annoyed with people, even when someone points out a fault, they just get mad at the person instead of saying either nothing, or correcting the error. Maybe they just have an editor that answers comments on youtube and is a dick sometimes, but it would be better to just ignore people than to post negative things towards them. This isn't the best example, but i recall one time when they literally told someone to fuck off...thats just unprofessional from a channel of this quality.
I think it is understood that The Fast Lane Truck 's response to this comment was sarcastic, and I have no problem with that. I was simply wondering if they forgot to post it, considering they posted a video, then posted a preview for that video after. I agree with LoneSpartan that they can be rude occasionally; especially when dealing with haters/trolls - and being rude with those kinds of people gets nowhere! If you want a laugh, and learn how to deal with haters, go to @nenshi on twitter, and see how the Mayor of Calgary, Canada deals with his - I promise if you look for a bit you will have a good laugh. GO TFL Truck!
The reason why the hatches weren't opening (in case you were wondering) is because the radio frequencies from both remotes are clashing with each other
Is it me, or does this guy find every stupid reason to down play the clear winner when its put up against any product better then a chevy/gmc? Come on! Cup holders?!?! Gimme a break. Who puts there drink in the door on the driver side anyway? Not convenient or safe to be reaching for anyhow. Dunno about any other subscribers but I'm about done with these guys and there ridiculous reviews. Clearly they have favorites before a test. In my opinion you cant be like that to give a good review.
I prefer a little bit of bias and personal opinion on reviews. The style of reviews out there that I can't stand are when they just give you the facts like they are reading from an encyclopedia. That said, I do think they guys on FLC/FLT try much to hard to be neutral and not call a spade a spade when it clearly is. They just did a Passat review where Nathan inserted a compliment about something every time he had to say something negative about the car. Unbiased is cool but you end up with no strong feeling either way.
It's ok to have an opinion, just don't be biased and pick on the better suv and try to make it look bad by saying things like "it doesn't have cup holders in the drivers door" and " the remote doesn't open the back glass" just because ur a fan of a brand. He just took cheap shots at the navigator and made a big deal over very small differences that wouldn't even matter to anyone else and that just aggravates me
Like I said Nathan seems to have an inability to call it as it is without playing devils advocate. The door holders are never filled with anything other than garbage and empty cans when you need to clear space in your center cup holders. He not biased as much as he is trying miserably to give the Yukon redeeming qualities because he had to put it down. His catchphrase should be the adverb "However".
I agree. I don't want my cupholder in the door I want in in the console. He didn't even show inside the navigator but my f150 has two cupholders for the backseat in the console. I watched this and the GMC towing test and they never said anything or showed any footage of the navigator at all. I wouldn't even call this a comparison it was just a review of the Yukon.
What we've learned: a chubby guy incapable of opening lift-gates by remote, operating an onboard vehicle performance computer, and anal-retentive about cup-holders in…… door panels? Are we f-' kidding? The final statement about the less-expensive alternatives is true… and I cannot stand the Navi's penis-looking muffler dangling in the rear. Should be integrated in the bumper. But the Navi is the clear winner. Cheers.
+jreyman damn why does it need to be faster tf u trying to kidnap a nigga or something? if u can't wait to for a fucking electric door then you must have the attention span of a goldfish😴😴😛
Ford has done a tremendous job with the Ecoboost engines.The F-150 has out pulled and out accelerated the Silverado and Ram with the 6.2 liter and Hemi V8s..Ford does need to tune their brakes a bit better tho but that shouldn't be that hard.
m.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2015-chevrolet-silverado-vs-2015-ford-f-150-2015-ram-1500-2014-toyota-tundra-comparison-test-2015-ford-f-150-vs-2015-chevrolet-silverado-1500-2015-ram-1500-2014-toyota-tundra-final-scoring-performance-data-and-complete-specs-page-6 sorry, try again at sea level, these things are identical
Mike Samra um...ok?? I thought we were taking about power and speed, but um, sure....top rated AMI is a Toyota Camry. GM scores 3 in the top 10, ford scored zero. www.autoblog.com/photos/cars-com-2015-american-made-index/ Again...nothing to do with this video or my comment...but why not. I've owned Ford's, GM's, Toyota's, Chrysler's, and I've had a problem with only 1 company on reliability, which was Chrysler (specifically jeep). Once you take off the fan boi glasses, it's a very competitive field where basically everything is equal in virtually all classes, just pick the one that floats your boat and smile.
Rob Kahla I agree with what you are saying but I was just adding that in about the F150 being the most American full size truck and the Tundra being right close to it..I live 20 minutes from Flint,the birthplace form GM and a lot of people look upon them badly because of taking billions and then filing bankruptcy anyway..I have also owned all three and I haven't had issues with any of the brands..Of course I teach auto electronics and emissions and the automatic and drive lines class in the spring so that do I can take care of things when they happen but haven't had much issue to. I also have issues with Ford taking plants to mexico to build cars. My Mustang is made here as is the Lincoln but that's it as far as cars go and that's not good either.
The denali at sea level would obliterate the ecoboost. Its always been that way anything with turbos at a mile above sea levels will always have an advantage due to the turbos forcing air in than with the big v8 trying to suck in what it can.
As a side note, I pull an 8k lb. travel trailer all around the country with that navigator. Up and down mountains, etc. The engine braking was the only thing the gmc did better (we had a Yukon before). The navigator far outperformed the gmc pulling up hill AND had trans overheating issues... while the Ford offering has never come close to overheating, even up steep grades on hot days.
@tfltruck the reason I believe the trunk test didn't work out is because using both remits at the same time confuses the signal read by the cars essentially mixing the signals together. I could be wrong on that
The Denali is more edgy looking and the Navigator is more understated. All suv ' s this size are necessarily just big boxes on wheels though so I'd take the box that has a better drivetrain, ride, luxury amenities, visibility and towing capability and that is the Navigator. If I had money to burn I might have gotten an Escalade which is on another level from these trucks in terms of looks but quite a bit more expensive and probably not as practical or comfortable as the Navigator. Although still not cheap the Navi is practical for my needs (boat, kids, around town, vacations). Seems to me a truck that rides and handles more like a car but still has all the same truck capabilities is the better deal although I do understand the appeal of flashy v8 trucks and hotrods. I think the Navigator is way cooler looking than any crossover. It is big and bold although maybe not as much as the GMC or Caddy.
Speaking of cup holders, my '08 Expy seats eight people and has 11 cup holders....they're everywhere. Not sure if the Lincoln lost them...what a shame.
I like both trucks, and as a current owner of an '05 Navigator, I definitely think this Navigator looks better than the model replaced ('07 to '14). But IMO, the best looking SUV right now is the '15 Escalade. And thank you for pointing out why these are trucks. I talk to so many people that don't understand why these are trucks and their CRV isn't.
CRV is unibody. But then there are unibody trucks as well. i.e the Honda Ridgeline, or the new Ford Ranger being sold around the world, but not in the US. So what is the true definition of "truck"? is the Ridgeline a truck? LOL! Jeeps, new Explorer, new Pathfinder, Honda Pilot, GM small SUVs...all are unibody.
I didn't say anything about unibody. A CRV has a car engine, car transmission, car differential, car suspension, shocks, wheels, etc. Nothing is heavy duty on one, they are tall cars. Hell, I've owned cars with beefier drive train and suspension than a CRV.
Elemino Musgrove There are midsize trucks that come with the engine size just like the CRV, FYI. CRV is clearly not a "heavy duty" SUV, hence no need of all the heavy duty stuffs. But that doesn't make it "not" a truck. By your logic, if the Yukon is a truck, what do you call the semi and big rigs? All I am saying is, the automotive world has evolved. There are so called SUVs that are front wheel drive based. There are 4x4, 4wheel drives, all wheel drives... and they are all so closely similar and blurred now, i'd just go with whatever the car maker calls them.
SB N more of a cross over than anything. Trucks are made for hauling and towing. A Yukon or Navigator with the proper hitch will tow roughly 10,000 lbs. While a CRV could probably tow a motorcycle, so can most cars. They are strictly people movers, they aren't designed for off road use, you wouldn't haul anything heavy inside one, and you wouldn't tow anything heavy with one. Therefore it is not a truck.
Elemino Musgrove That's what I've been trying to point out in the last 3 replies. There are small, mid size and full size trucks. Then there are the light duty, medium duty, semi, big rigs...they are all trucks. Small truck tow/haul smaller/lighter stuffs. But that doesn't make them any less truck. Just because an S class Benz can carry 5 big adults comfortably, and the A class can only do 2, doesn't mean we start calling the A-class a golf cart. We call the S class a full size "sedan" and the A class a sub compact "sedan". I said before, the automotive world has evolved so much, and cater to so many different taste of buyers, it's hard to distinguish which is which some times.
Depending on how the seats are configured and whether you have the rear seat center console there is anywhere from 7 to 9 cupholders in the Navigator. So there is always at least one available for every passenger. Is the problem there are none in the door for left handed drivers?
Im a chevy lover i own a c7z and an 13 escalade with the 6.2 engine i rented a navigator a couple of time a for long trips and i got say the navigator is way faster than the escalade and gets way more mpg that 3.5 ecoboost engine is a beast
I love the GMC. But that new Navigator is just plain awesome. Hopefully it will be more reliable than most Fords. Edit: Whoops I commented before I watched the video and thought this was about the new Navigator. This old one doesn't even compare to the Yukon.
if you want to solve the GM mirror issue, go buy the tow mirrors for 2014+ year models and put them on yourself. they are really nice, and I think you can still get the BLIS on them. I'm not sure about that but I think so
I don't like where the reverse light is on the Navigator.. I'm a little picky on vehicles. I don't know why Lincoln just didn't put it in the white space above the current location of them. I'm rather have a 2007-14 Navigator over this, but I would also take a 2015 Expedition EL Platinum over the new Navigator also.
I had several Suburbans and 1 Tahoe. The mileage was less in the Tahoe. The Suburban had easier access to the second row seats because of the door design.
Ford needed to do more the Expedition and Navigator, yea the ecoboost is good, but the rest of it is the same truck as before. Why not base it on the new 2015 F-150 instead of the old one?
***** plus 10 speed auto and completely redesigned 3.5 EcoBoost rumored to have 450HP/500TQ in the Raptor, so I would assume the Navigator would get it too.
They're OVER a mile above sea level. The HP loss in that GMC has to be insane. and the lincoln's turbos negate all that loss. Proving an advantage? Sure. BUT, that still makes the validity of this test like... nonexistent. Run em at sea level; lets see a real contest lol
Nathan , despite all the negative comments below about how its idiotic to criticize a family/people hauler for having next to useless door pockets I completely understand where you're coming from . I have family with kids (toddlers ) and believe me it helps having more spacious door pockets now the gmcs don't look that big but certainly way better than what ford offers. Never the less that would not be an issue for me between these two SUVs . my biggest complaint is the hideous design of the Lincoln man that thing is UGLY ! In the looks department Cadillac escalade >GMC Yukon >almost anything else on 4 wheels> Lincoln navigator
Both are nice vehicles. The GMC Denali is much better equipped than the Lincoln Navigator is, for about the same price. It's not like people are going to be drag racing these anyway.
Escalade OWNER here ! Don't get the Escalade or Yukon my truck has had countless visits to the dealership for lots of common problems on these SUVs rear visibility is horrible very small windows and big pillers and even worst at 58k miles my truck interior is falling apart the dash and center console screen stoped working completely the leather I literally fading with regular suny days to the point I realize its fake leather and wood !!!!. Every time I hit a bump my truck squeaks really bad like an old truck. My brother has a 2019 navigator and that truck is like fking Rolls-Royce on steroids he hasn't gotten any problems with it other than he lost both keys and tinted the headlights and damaged them both but it was his fault.
Richard Wachtel So putting 225 more pounds onto the front of the Fiesta won't cause any problems? And do you really think a V6 is going to fit in there?
WuWei Xu if people can fit a GM LS1 into a Honda Civic, I'm pretty sure an EcoBoost V6 could be shoe-horned into a Fiesta. If not that, at least a Focus.
Entertaining though it may be there is no real information to be had here, first and foremost it would have to be the Yukon not the XL for it to be a genuinely competitive comparison. That being said , even during the last run where the vehicles were left and rear wheel drive the guy driving the Navigator spooled up the engine Before the Race, he did this because he was trying not to lose. Which makes sense from a driver standpoint, however it does not give a genuine indication of what would happen in the real world. most drivers do not sit at the red light with their foot on the gas and the break at the same time , even less people who are driving $70,000 SUVs so buying such a large SUV with a small displacement engine and turbochargers , there is most definitely going to be turbo lag in the real world. On top of which most people do not live a mile above sea level where the engine in the Yukon would be far less labored on a daily basis. me personally, I would not want to own a turbocharged V6 in a 3 ton SUV out of warranty.
Not fair if one is building boost and he going flat. Why can't he build rpms with the gmc. Would make a difference. I do it in my suburban when I want to take people at the light.
The guy driving the XL in the video shouldn't have been the one behind the wheel. My 15 Denali short wheel base does 0-60 in damn near 5.9 seconds on a good day.
We are on our 3rd Navigator and have Loved everyone . We buy a new one ever very few years Loaded. And we will keep buying one . I only wish Lincoln would make a Town Car , that looks like a BENTLEY MULSANNE . I just can't warm up to the new Continental . I have tried . My husband drives the Navigator and I need a New Town . I have driven Lincolns since I was 22 years old . My 1996 Lincoln Town car is the best Lincoln I have ever owned .But I want a new one.
little side note, that wiper on the back of the Lincoln covers much larger area, so you can see bit more.
Krzysztof Blach and the opening on the window is way bigger on the lincoln
the GMC doesn't have better brakes. The Lincoln was traveling at a faster speed and it is heavier. that means it takes longer to slow down. You guys just had to find SOMETHING bad about the Navigator to make this comparison sort of equal (Cup holders). The Lincoln is obviously the better one in this review.
Well, if you get the GMC with the big brake option, it's MUCH better than the Ford.
There's no way to judge how vigorously each driver applied the brakes.
Funny how the GMC totally jumped the start and the Navigator still smoked it.
Both trucks are very nice but I'm going to go with the Ecoboost.
Good luck with timing chains
2022 and Yukons are still everywhere but, I hardly ever see any Navigators on the road. GM still using the 6.2 and 5.3 in 2022. These Yukon XL are still going for good pricing all these years later. That’s says a lot.
The drag race wasn't a surprise to me. With the XL being heavier and both being over a mile above sea level I expected the outcome. Both nice trucks. I'd drive either if they were free because that's the only way I could get one.
Lincoln actually weights more
Lincoln was better period, he tried to do dumb ass tailgate lift race because he didn't wanna tell more about the nice stylish navi
Great work, TFL Truck!! Love your videos!!
420 horsepower and in Colorado? WEEEEEEEEEEED!
The Ford/Lincoln SUVs have almost no blind- spot! The mirrors are so big that they cover the institute side of the car.
no replacement for the twin turbo ecoboost. This engine is extremely capable of producing even greater hp and tq only with a little tune. Nathan is a hater for turbo engines and just loves the V8. I definitely sensed how Nathan was constantly "trying" to find points to prove Yukon is a better truck haha. Keep trying buddy.
FastLane Indeed, but I think the Yukon gets my vote on looks but the Navigator on style.
Nice video I like more the Lincoln.
Where is the GMC Ike Gauntlet towing review? I can only find a preview, posted after the Navigator review.
Geez, please give us some time to edit it. Thanks
I was looking for it too and couldn't find it
The Fast Lane Truck You guys need to stop being so rude to your fans, all he did was ask where the review was because in this video Nathan says you already saw it on your channel. You dont have to immediately become hostile. I have watched every video you guys have posted on both your channels, and read many comments, and i appreciate the information you give, but you guys are really short tempered to your fans....when every any one asks about a video you explode at them like " do you even know how hard it is to make videos?!" Just calm down, not everyone knows your schedules.
i dont have a problem with how they upload, or their content, this is one of my favorite channels, the problem is how they respond to feedback from their community. They are very quick to get annoyed with people, even when someone points out a fault, they just get mad at the person instead of saying either nothing, or correcting the error. Maybe they just have an editor that answers comments on youtube and is a dick sometimes, but it would be better to just ignore people than to post negative things towards them. This isn't the best example, but i recall one time when they literally told someone to fuck off...thats just unprofessional from a channel of this quality.
I think it is understood that The Fast Lane Truck 's response to this comment was sarcastic, and I have no problem with that. I was simply wondering if they forgot to post it, considering they posted a video, then posted a preview for that video after. I agree with LoneSpartan that they can be rude occasionally; especially when dealing with haters/trolls - and being rude with those kinds of people gets nowhere! If you want a laugh, and learn how to deal with haters, go to @nenshi on twitter, and see how the Mayor of Calgary, Canada deals with his - I promise if you look for a bit you will have a good laugh. GO TFL Truck!
I have actually hated cup holders in the door. I don't know why though.
who the hell puts coffee in the door? Most idiotic criticism i've ever heard.
It's the only cup he had you idiot! What a bunch of no show having haters!
Couldn't agree more. Cuz the cup holders in the center console won't work. Guy is a tool
The reason why the hatches weren't opening (in case you were wondering) is because the radio frequencies from both remotes are clashing with each other
Is it me, or does this guy find every stupid reason to down play the clear winner when its put up against any product better then a chevy/gmc? Come on! Cup holders?!?! Gimme a break. Who puts there drink in the door on the driver side anyway? Not convenient or safe to be reaching for anyhow. Dunno about any other subscribers but I'm about done with these guys and there ridiculous reviews. Clearly they have favorites before a test. In my opinion you cant be like that to give a good review.
My thoughts exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself.
I prefer a little bit of bias and personal opinion on reviews. The style of reviews out there that I can't stand are when they just give you the facts like they are reading from an encyclopedia. That said, I do think they guys on FLC/FLT try much to hard to be neutral and not call a spade a spade when it clearly is. They just did a Passat review where Nathan inserted a compliment about something every time he had to say something negative about the car. Unbiased is cool but you end up with no strong feeling either way.
It's ok to have an opinion, just don't be biased and pick on the better suv and try to make it look bad by saying things like "it doesn't have cup holders in the drivers door" and " the remote doesn't open the back glass" just because ur a fan of a brand. He just took cheap shots at the navigator and made a big deal over very small differences that wouldn't even matter to anyone else and that just aggravates me
Like I said Nathan seems to have an inability to call it as it is without playing devils advocate. The door holders are never filled with anything other than garbage and empty cans when you need to clear space in your center cup holders. He not biased as much as he is trying miserably to give the Yukon redeeming qualities because he had to put it down. His catchphrase should be the adverb "However".
I agree. I don't want my cupholder in the door I want in in the console. He didn't even show inside the navigator but my f150 has two cupholders for the backseat in the console. I watched this and the GMC towing test and they never said anything or showed any footage of the navigator at all. I wouldn't even call this a comparison it was just a review of the Yukon.
The YUKON XL Weighs More, so I'm not surprised at all. They should of tested short wheel base models.
Nav was heavier
+DJKiDDKlashez I had to google what Bill said, and he's right. The Navigator is about 200 pounds heavier than the Yukon XL with its 20 inch wheels.
+WuWei Xu And IRS instead of a solid rear end.
Although I am a Ford person, my entire family owns Fords.. I must say the front of the Lincoln looks like the "Grumpy Cat" lmfao 😂😂
What we've learned: a chubby guy incapable of opening lift-gates by remote, operating an onboard vehicle performance computer, and anal-retentive about cup-holders in…… door panels? Are we f-' kidding?
The final statement about the less-expensive alternatives is true… and I cannot stand the Navi's penis-looking muffler dangling in the rear. Should be integrated in the bumper. But the Navi is the clear winner. Cheers.
The power lift gate on the Yukon started after the Lincoln did and still won opening
+Jordan Sloan The Navigator's liftgate was obviously the winner.
+WuWei Xu; Nope. The Navigator's was still moving, after the Yukon's stopped, and the Yukon was started later.
+jreyman damn why does it need to be faster tf u trying to kidnap a nigga or something? if u can't wait to for a fucking electric door then you must have the attention span of a goldfish😴😴😛
They started at the same time just took the GMC longer to get the thing moving so in reality they're the same.
Ford has done a tremendous job with the Ecoboost engines.The F-150 has out pulled and out accelerated the Silverado and Ram with the 6.2 liter and Hemi V8s..Ford does need to tune their brakes a bit better tho but that shouldn't be that hard.
m.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2015-chevrolet-silverado-vs-2015-ford-f-150-2015-ram-1500-2014-toyota-tundra-comparison-test-2015-ford-f-150-vs-2015-chevrolet-silverado-1500-2015-ram-1500-2014-toyota-tundra-final-scoring-performance-data-and-complete-specs-page-6
sorry, try again at sea level, these things are identical
Rob Kahla
We can also add that Ford is the most American at 70% and Chevy is less than 50%..
Mike Samra um...ok?? I thought we were taking about power and speed, but um, sure....top rated AMI is a Toyota Camry. GM scores 3 in the top 10, ford scored zero.
www.autoblog.com/photos/cars-com-2015-american-made-index/
Again...nothing to do with this video or my comment...but why not. I've owned Ford's, GM's, Toyota's, Chrysler's, and I've had a problem with only 1 company on reliability, which was Chrysler (specifically jeep). Once you take off the fan boi glasses, it's a very competitive field where basically everything is equal in virtually all classes, just pick the one that floats your boat and smile.
Rob Kahla
I agree with what you are saying but I was just adding that in about the F150 being the most American full size truck and the Tundra being right close to it..I live 20 minutes from Flint,the birthplace form GM and a lot of people look upon them badly because of taking billions and then filing bankruptcy anyway..I have also owned all three and I haven't had issues with any of the brands..Of course I teach auto electronics and emissions and the automatic and drive lines class in the spring so that do I can take care of things when they happen but haven't had much issue to.
I also have issues with Ford taking plants to mexico to build cars. My Mustang is made here as is the Lincoln but that's it as far as cars go and that's not good either.
Love the videos guys! Keep em coming!
2007-2014 Surburban vs 2007-2014 GMC Yukon XL which one is more durable and reliable???? Great video as usual...
The denali at sea level would obliterate the ecoboost. Its always been that way anything with turbos at a mile above sea levels will always have an advantage due to the turbos forcing air in than with the big v8 trying to suck in what it can.
As a side note, I pull an 8k lb. travel trailer all around the country with that navigator. Up and down mountains, etc. The engine braking was the only thing the gmc did better (we had a Yukon before). The navigator far outperformed the gmc pulling up hill AND had trans overheating issues... while the Ford offering has never come close to overheating, even up steep grades on hot days.
I loved this comparison review. Please keep making reviews like this!
+Malifestro Cool. Will do.
Who would ever want to put a coffee cup in the door
@tfltruck the reason I believe the trunk test didn't work out is because using both remits at the same time confuses the signal read by the cars essentially mixing the signals together. I could be wrong on that
The cup holders in the expedition are in the center console
The Denali is more edgy looking and the Navigator is more understated. All suv ' s this size are necessarily just big boxes on wheels though so I'd take the box that has a better drivetrain, ride, luxury amenities, visibility and towing capability and that is the Navigator. If I had money to burn I might have gotten an Escalade which is on another level from these trucks in terms of looks but quite a bit more expensive and probably not as practical or comfortable as the Navigator. Although still not cheap the Navi is practical for my needs (boat, kids, around town, vacations). Seems to me a truck that rides and handles more like a car but still has all the same truck capabilities is the better deal although I do understand the appeal of flashy v8 trucks and hotrods. I think the Navigator is way cooler looking than any crossover. It is big and bold although maybe not as much as the GMC or Caddy.
Speaking of cup holders, my '08 Expy seats eight people and has 11 cup holders....they're everywhere. Not sure if the Lincoln lost them...what a shame.
Still would rather have the V8, Ford can take their EcoBoost engines back to where they came from.
Great review though guys.
Are you all going to post the other video with the Denali pulling the trailer? If you have posted it. I guess I just missed it.
When are you guys doing to make a 2015 Ford expedition off road test video
i have a 2001 navigator. its rides amazing and very powerful. good truck
Was the Yukon a 3/4 or half ton, just wondering with the brakes being so responsive, and the 6.2L
You can get one for 24k now
Maybe the trunks didnt open because of interfering radio frequencies coming from the remotes?
I like both trucks, and as a current owner of an '05 Navigator, I definitely think this Navigator looks better than the model replaced ('07 to '14). But IMO, the best looking SUV right now is the '15 Escalade.
And thank you for pointing out why these are trucks. I talk to so many people that don't understand why these are trucks and their CRV isn't.
CRV is unibody. But then there are unibody trucks as well. i.e the Honda Ridgeline, or the new Ford Ranger being sold around the world, but not in the US. So what is the true definition of "truck"? is the Ridgeline a truck? LOL! Jeeps, new Explorer, new Pathfinder, Honda Pilot, GM small SUVs...all are unibody.
I didn't say anything about unibody. A CRV has a car engine, car transmission, car differential, car suspension, shocks, wheels, etc. Nothing is heavy duty on one, they are tall cars. Hell, I've owned cars with beefier drive train and suspension than a CRV.
Elemino Musgrove There are midsize trucks that come with the engine size just like the CRV, FYI. CRV is clearly not a "heavy duty" SUV, hence no need of all the heavy duty stuffs. But that doesn't make it "not" a truck. By your logic, if the Yukon is a truck, what do you call the semi and big rigs? All I am saying is, the automotive world has evolved. There are so called SUVs that are front wheel drive based. There are 4x4, 4wheel drives, all wheel drives... and they are all so closely similar and blurred now, i'd just go with whatever the car maker calls them.
SB N more of a cross over than anything. Trucks are made for hauling and towing. A Yukon or Navigator with the proper hitch will tow roughly 10,000 lbs. While a CRV could probably tow a motorcycle, so can most cars. They are strictly people movers, they aren't designed for off road use, you wouldn't haul anything heavy inside one, and you wouldn't tow anything heavy with one. Therefore it is not a truck.
Elemino Musgrove That's what I've been trying to point out in the last 3 replies. There are small, mid size and full size trucks. Then there are the light duty, medium duty, semi, big rigs...they are all trucks. Small truck tow/haul smaller/lighter stuffs. But that doesn't make them any less truck.
Just because an S class Benz can carry 5 big adults comfortably, and the A class can only do 2, doesn't mean we start calling the A-class a golf cart. We call the S class a full size "sedan" and the A class a sub compact "sedan".
I said before, the automotive world has evolved so much, and cater to so many different taste of buyers, it's hard to distinguish which is which some times.
Actually the expedition has cup holders. It’s a styling thing in the navigator
Lincoln looks better in the the front gmc looks better in the back
Does the 2015 navigator have regular suspension or has a air bag suspension?
I'm rolling with the Yukon
Depending on how the seats are configured and whether you have the rear seat center console there is anywhere from 7 to 9 cupholders in the Navigator. So there is always at least one available for every passenger. Is the problem there are none in the door for left handed drivers?
lol the back glass portion was fords idea first
Zach Bergstrasser yep! Got it on my expedition.
our 96 suburban had it.
Im a chevy lover i own a c7z and an 13 escalade with the 6.2 engine i rented a navigator a couple of time a for long trips and i got say the navigator is way faster than the escalade and gets way more mpg that 3.5 ecoboost engine is a beast
I'll take the Lincoln.
Me too, lol
Johnson's GMC Yukon push rods vs Lincoln double head over
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"double head over"? I believe both engines have two cylinder heads...
You mean double overhead?
So a xl vs a normal navigator? And what were the axle ratios? Seems legit.
The problem with the lincoln is that it looks 10 years old...and has the technology to back it up.
2010drive Did you see the 2018 one it looks hella nice
How are you driving an all wheel drive Denali in 2 wheel drive?
I love the GMC. But that new Navigator is just plain awesome. Hopefully it will be more reliable than most Fords. Edit: Whoops I commented before I watched the video and thought this was about the new Navigator. This old one doesn't even compare to the Yukon.
if you want to solve the GM mirror issue, go buy the tow mirrors for 2014+ year models and put them on yourself. they are really nice, and I think you can still get the BLIS on them. I'm not sure about that but I think so
The 2014 mirrors were also dinky and too small. Plus putting the rounded 2014 mirrors on the new car would look terrible.
I don't like where the reverse light is on the Navigator.. I'm a little picky on vehicles. I don't know why Lincoln just didn't put it in the white space above the current location of them. I'm rather have a 2007-14 Navigator over this, but I would also take a 2015 Expedition EL Platinum over the new Navigator also.
I had several Suburbans and 1 Tahoe. The mileage was less in the Tahoe. The Suburban had easier access to the second row seats because of the door design.
Fairer test would be the regular Yukon vs Navigator
Or a Yukon XL to a Navigator L 😜
The navigators rear wiper looks like it is actually wiping a decent section. The Yukon not quite
Ford needed to do more the Expedition and Navigator, yea the ecoboost is good, but the rest of it is the same truck as before. Why not base it on the new 2015 F-150 instead of the old one?
This was just a refresh until the aluminum bodied version comes along. Imagine how quick this thing will be when it loses 500 lbs?
***** plus 10 speed auto and completely redesigned 3.5 EcoBoost rumored to have 450HP/500TQ in the Raptor, so I would assume the Navigator would get it too.
I do find it weird it doesn't have cup holders in the doors, seeing as my wife's '14 escape even does and it cost 1/3 of that Lincoln.
the great video of vs of full sizes SUV
He also neglected the fact that the lincoln has 9 cup holders without the need for the door ones! I know, I'm driving one now!
The expedition hasnt even changed since it came out
they're actually around 80k
I'm confused why they aren't comparing the Navigator L?
Remote works like most G.M. Stuff.
Doors not responding when using the remotes is one of the reasons why GM products drive me crazy. My body on frame SUV is a Toyota.
They're OVER a mile above sea level. The HP loss in that GMC has to be insane. and the lincoln's turbos negate all that loss. Proving an advantage? Sure. BUT, that still makes the validity of this test like... nonexistent. Run em at sea level; lets see a real contest lol
Tahoe and Suburban looked so much better than Yukon and Escalade since new redesign Escalade then Denali with the previous generation. My opinion.
I like both but the navigator is pretty nice looking
That eco boost is killer
Lincoln should've hidden the exhaust at the Navigator. Looks not good.
how come you didn't compare the durango
please tell me youre kidding...
+The Moe 😂😂😂
Hennessey Supercharged Yukon Denali. 'Nuff said.
I don't think any potential buyers care about a 0-60 lol
the GMC Yukon is the better car: sales show that.
Kenny M the 6.2l has 1/2 the failure rate of the Eco boost engines though.
Sanic im not talking about just engines
i couldn't agree more with him!
i own a lincolin and
i wont go back to the gm suburban/gmc/cadilac
the ride on lincolin and quality is so amazingly different!
Nathan , despite all the negative comments below about how its idiotic to criticize a family/people hauler for having next to useless door pockets I completely understand where you're coming from . I have family with kids (toddlers ) and believe me it helps having more spacious door pockets now the gmcs don't look that big but certainly way better than what ford offers. Never the less that would not be an issue for me between these two SUVs . my biggest complaint is the hideous design of the Lincoln man that thing is UGLY ! In the looks department Cadillac escalade >GMC Yukon >almost anything else on 4 wheels> Lincoln navigator
I'm rooting for the Lincoln Navigator but must admit, the GMC Yukon XL has a jem of an engine!
“Taking a screaming child and throwing them in there” 911 GUY NAMED NATHAN COMMITED CHILD ABUSE
Go navigator!!!
You should do the extended navigator vs the Denali. That's more fair
Needs a driver mod. Saw another video of 0-60 with a Gtech showing 6.7 seconds.
Both are nice vehicles. The GMC Denali is much better equipped than the Lincoln Navigator is, for about the same price. It's not like people are going to be drag racing these anyway.
Escalade OWNER here ! Don't get the Escalade or Yukon my truck has had countless visits to the dealership for lots of common problems on these SUVs rear visibility is horrible very small windows and big pillers and even worst at 58k miles my truck interior is falling apart the dash and center console screen stoped working completely the leather I literally fading with regular suny days to the point I realize its fake leather and wood !!!!. Every time I hit a bump my truck squeaks really bad like an old truck. My brother has a 2019 navigator and that truck is like fking Rolls-Royce on steroids he hasn't gotten any problems with it other than he lost both keys and tinted the headlights and damaged them both but it was his fault.
It's seems you left out the fact that the "car" of the group can actually tow a huge amount more then gmc
Navigator engine in a Fiesta. Just think about that for a second. 380hp, 450lb-ft, in a hot hatch from hell.
+Richard Wachtel Yeah, an engine so heavy that it might tip the Fiesta over.
WuWei Xu the engine is a lot lighter than you think.
Richard Wachtel So putting 225 more pounds onto the front of the Fiesta won't cause any problems? And do you really think a V6 is going to fit in there?
WuWei Xu if people can fit a GM LS1 into a Honda Civic, I'm pretty sure an EcoBoost V6 could be shoe-horned into a Fiesta. If not that, at least a Focus.
Pretty Yukon, great job to the Navigator, though.
I find this slightly unfair because of the yukon being the longer wheelbase
Entertaining though it may be there is no real information to be had here, first and foremost it would have to be the Yukon not the XL for it to be a genuinely competitive comparison. That being said , even during the last run where the vehicles were left and rear wheel drive the guy driving the Navigator spooled up the engine Before the Race, he did this because he was trying not to lose. Which makes sense from a driver standpoint, however it does not give a genuine indication of what would happen in the real world. most drivers do not sit at the red light with their foot on the gas and the break at the same time , even less people who are driving $70,000 SUVs so buying such a large SUV with a small displacement engine and turbochargers , there is most definitely going to be turbo lag in the real world. On top of which most people do not live a mile above sea level where the engine in the Yukon would be far less labored on a daily basis. me personally, I would not want to own a turbocharged V6 in a 3 ton SUV out of warranty.
Reason the gmc keeps losing is due to the big fella sitting in it.
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Battle of the big boys I like the Yukon XL
Not fair if one is building boost and he going flat. Why can't he build rpms with the gmc. Would make a difference. I do it in my suburban when I want to take people at the light.
i drove a 2015 suburban rental and the mirrors are terrible!!!!
The guy driving the XL in the video shouldn't have been the one behind the wheel. My 15 Denali short wheel base does 0-60 in damn near 5.9 seconds on a good day.
the upside down back wiper on the yukon is unsymmetrical and doesn't clear off that much
Maybe the key would've worked better if you actually pointed towards the vehicle...
+WuWei Xu the direction of an RF signal makes no difference.
Ford did take GM's styling cue if you've noticed. Look at the windows silhouette..
Off road comparison please!!!
Ford Built Tough!
We are on our 3rd Navigator and have Loved everyone . We buy a new one ever very few years Loaded. And we will keep buying one . I only wish Lincoln would make a Town Car , that looks like a BENTLEY MULSANNE . I just can't warm up to the new Continental . I have tried . My husband drives the Navigator and I need a New Town . I have driven Lincolns since I was 22 years old . My 1996 Lincoln Town car is the best Lincoln I have ever owned .But I want a new one.