Baldur's Gate Level 8 Arcane / Mage Magic Spell Guide
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- This is the eighth installment of my arcane magic spell guide for the classic PC game, Baldur's Gate.
This video covers Level 8 (EIGHT) mage spells.
The Level 1 spells video is here: • Baldur's Gate Level 1 ...
The Level 2 spells video is here: • Baldur's Gate Level 2 ...
The Level 3 spells video is here: • Baldur's Gate Level 3 ...
The Level 4 spells video is here: • Baldur's Gate Level 4 ...
The Level 5 spells video is here: • Baldur's Gate Level 5 ...
The Level 6 spells video is here: • Baldur's Gate Level 6 ...
The Level 7 spells video is here: • Baldur's Gate Level 7 ...
This series will take an analytical / rule / power game oriented approach to discussing the strengths and weaknesses, and use cases, for each spell in Baldur's Gate, BG2:SOA, and TOB. The spells are assessed across the entire saga and mainly using the unmodded Enhanced Edition releases (so no SCS, although I do touch on SCS frequently)
Thanks to:
Davaeorn - ua-cam.com/channels/4kj.html...
BG Wiki - baldursgate.fandom.com/wiki/B...
NearInfinity - github.com/Argent77/NearInfinity
0:00 - Intro
5:20 - Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Wilting (Rating: 9/10)
18:09 - Bigby's Clenched Fist (2)
32:40 - Improved Mantle (1)
36:00 - Incendiary Cloud (6)
46:28 - Maze (3)
58:43 - Pierce Shield (2)
1:04:04 - Power Word, Blind (3)
1:12:30 - Protection from Energy (5)
1:20:05 - Simulacrum (7)
1:33:45 - Spell Trigger (5)
1:46:41 - Summon Fiend (3)
1:56:05 - Symbol, Death (2)
2:08:42 - Symbol, Fear (1)
2:16:12 - Symbol, Stun (4)
2:22:27 - Conclusion and Review of Spell Ratings - Ігри
The lvl 9 and HLA arcane spell guide is probably the most awaited video on earth !
Horrid Wilting is exactly why Illusionists REALLY suffer in the game and Simulacrum (well, really, Mirror Image and Mislead) is the same for Necromancers.
I feel like Level 8 is a bit feast-or-famine of a spell level. Great look at these spells AND a fantastic look at the spell levels beforehand! Thank you for posting! You are awesome!
Thanks man… i enjoy your channel as well! Respect!
Thank you so much for making christmas come early this year! I am so happy you are still working on this series. Will watch this right away!
Thanks ! Merry Christmas!
I always look forward to these. Looks like Christmas and me both came early today!
Alternative uses for certain spells...
Maze is great as a "Oh Sh!t!!!" button. Imoen got isolated in the Mind Flayer dungeon, and surrounded. Chain Contingency Maze, Incendiary Cloud, Incendiary Cloud, cast on SELF, seeing enemy. With her low intelligence (due to brain suck) , she's immediately invulnerable, and the Incendiary Clouds left behind will slaughter the Mind Flayers, with a good chance of her only appearing after the clouds expire. 😈 Oh, Chain Contingency ignores acuity, so she'll pull off her disappearing act before she finishes casting. 😮😮. The ONLY downside is she gets no experience while Mazed. 😢
Summon Fiend is very useful for SCS Beholders. Their Death Ray instakills summons, so no mobs of Skeleton Warriors. But a nice Cacofiend, or Summoned Fiend will distract them while you cast Incendiary Clouds at them. I think you even get XP for your summoned demon, if you kill it...🤔 Cacofiend in vanilla is immune to Fire, so it will last longer as a Deployable Decoy. 😈
Simulacrum is nice, but the Helm of Vilator gives your warriors (who benefit the most) the same abilities. 😈🥷
Bigsby's Clenched Fist. The save, as you mentioned is save vs Death. Specifically, save vs Death/Poison/Paralysis. What's important is the hold effect is PARALYSIS. Bosses, like the Five and Demogorgon, have a large list of immunities, in SCS and Ascension. However, they don't have immunity to Blindness 😮and immunity to Paralysis😮. Please check the documentation. This is why PWB is awesome, because Demogorgon for example, is immune to level 1-3 spells. You NEED PWB. Blindness isn't going to cut it once you're fighting liches (who are NOT immune to blindness) who are immune to 1-5th level spells. If you're going to attack Demogorgon, for example, using a Spell Trigger of Pierce Magic (Lower Resistance doesn't work on him), and a Chain Contingency of Bigby's Clenched Fist (for melee fighters), Power Word Blind (for ranged fighters and spellcasters ), and Greater Malison is not the worst idea on the world. 😛🫡
I always enjoy your creative tips !!
Sweet! I've been looking forward to this video for some time now.
Damn you were fast with that comment, no prob and glad you enjoy the series!
@@WJ_24 UA-cam shoved it straight into my face. The algorithm know how much I've been longing for this video! Great stuff as always WesJ, thank you making and sharing it :)
Abi-Dalz: One advantage of Dragons Breath and Comet is that they pass through magic resistance. Great for killing drow etc.
Improved Mantle: Has one use case in the Chosen of Cyric encounter. Using Improved Mantle makes you immune to every weapon used against you except for Verduris Shortsword. First time I did the fight Improved Mantle made it much easier to not get Edwin popped while I was waiting for his contingencies to wake up.
Power Word Blind: Not every mage in your party will be wearing Robe of Vecna, for those that don't this spell is a decent option because of it's short cast time and small aoe. I keep 1 PwB in my spellbook at all times, on at least 1 of my mages. Having an instant cast, no save cc that can instantly remove a fighter or thief from the game is a life-saver in some situations.
Spell Trigger: I don't quite understand how you rate these spells so lowly. Are you rating them mainly from a soloing perspective? They are hard to rate in comparison to other spells but holy hell if they aren't powerful. Not every mage in you party is wearing Robe of Vecna and for those who don't the "store spells"-spells are their only way of surpassing the 1 spell/round limitation. When combined with Improved Alacrity they even allow for a non-Vecna mage to machine gun out some spells. I like playing parties with 4-5 arcane casters and having 4 people instantly cast three lvl 6 spells equals to 12 spells being cast in 0.6 seconds. Sure you Vecna-wearer might have better things to do, but that doesn't make Spell Trigger a mere 5/10 imo.
Agreed! Power Word Blind is awesome, not only for casting speed and no save, but because very few bosses resist it. Demogorgon can be blinded, but he's immune to Blindness Spell, so you need PWB. The Five and even Amelyssan are vulnerable to PWB. She's immune to Blindness, but not PWB. 😮😮
Spell Trigger, Spell Sequencer are awesome spells. They completely turn so-so spells, like Flame Arrow and Sunfire, into stupidity powerful attacks. And they give mages extra spells! (if you rest between casts and the battle) 😮😮
@@User_Un_Friendly Agreed. The best part about Trigger, Sequencer and the Contingencies is that the opportunity cost is zero. The only thing it costs you is a slight amount of time. It's literally free spells cast at instant speed with zero opportunity cost. I'd rank them all as 10/10 as there is literally no reason as to why you wouldn't use all of them on every single arcane caster after every single usage/rest.
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Excellent series :)
YES! I always eagerly await your videos. I've been playing BG3 recently but it sucks if you like to play solo, so probably gonna start a new solo SCS campaign again. Just a quick question: would you agree that because of your always higher level due to playing solo, the best strategy to dispel enemy protections is always lvl 3 remove magic? Thanks for your amazing content!!!
Yeah I think so. For very high level mages you need some secret word and breaches but I find remove magic works well given the level advantage you will have and also the fact that , before alacrity, it’s really hard to individually dispel enemy protections when you can only cast 1 spell per round. The AOE factor is huge even if you have to cast it a couple times.
I discussed this a lot in level 3 and also in the Ruby Ray part of the level 7 video
You’re welcome!
Waw a new BG video
Simulacrum is even more busted as Dual Fighter>Mage in BG2EE compared to Fighter/Mage Multi. Because of how it is coded it subtracts only 40% of your fighter class from your Mage class and NO levels from your Fighter class at all. So if you are a berserker>Mage 9/30, then your Simulacrum would be 9/27, which is almost an exact copy of yours. Even 13/28 would still make a 13/23 Simulacrum, giving it 3 level 9 spell slots
Great point! I had not realized that
@@WJ_24 Found that out very late too, it is considered a bug according to the wiki page. kinda funny, a 13/23 Simulacrum is a better mage than a real fighter/mage multi on max level, while not really being a much worse fighter
New version of SCS nerfs Horrid Wilting. Or, arguably, "fixes" it, it no longer affects creatures that don't have moisture to remove.
I find it silly that we're supposed to just ignore spell description.
Also, Dushai in Ulgoth's Beard has Ring of Free Action, you can easily kill her for it, no one else goes hostile and lost rep can be bought back. In party play, you can pass this ring around depending who spiders are going for atm.
@@Tumeqdamn I did not know this… thank you!! Cloakwood is a total bitch without free action and I like playing divine casters so a lot of time PC can’t use spider 2H sword…
@@WJ_24 Skull Trap also got nerfed...capped at 12d6. 😢
Another great spell lvl rundown and entertaining vid! I had a question too based on your experience. You mentioned that demons, planetars, and devas do not fall to Death spell or Death Fog. Do you know if Elemental Princes function the same way, or do they fall in the banishable category? Thanks for your efforts with Lvl 8, and excited for Lvl 9!!
SCS nerfed Death Spell, to insta-kill enemies below level 6 ONLY, an then nerfed summons to level 6. The documentation doesn't mention what's been done to Death Fog. So Death Spell still kinda works.
Demons, Planetars, Devas and Elemental Princes have ALWAYS been immune to Death Spell and Death Fog. SCS and vanilla. I can't remember if standard Elemental Summoning are immune, though...🧐.
The best thing about level 8, that you have AviDazym
The worst thing about level 8, that everything else feels mediocre agaisnt AviDazym.
Well put my friend. Kinda sums up the whole damn video…