The Most Controversial BEAUTY SCANDALS of 2021 (outfits, plastic surgery and more)
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- Опубліковано 19 гру 2021
- The most controversial beauty scandals of 2021 (outfits, plastic surgery and more)
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about ps, literally like 95% of idols have had it, including a lot of the members of the big groups
Exactly ~ You have to be delusional to claim that chins and noses I'll naturally become slimmer as you age. Is a toxic culture that "you will get older and glow up" EXACTLY INTO THE BEAUTY STANDARD magically, like Cinderella.
It's just so dumb, 2021, and people still believe in that bull****
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I do believe majority of these idols has got some sort of procedures done, idk if you're being serious or not but where did you get that '95%' percentage information haha
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true, a lot of their enhancements are about emphasizing their natural features more
Lmao logic of netizens: gets mad if they discover an idol has plastic surgery
Also netizens: call chaeryoung and umji visual holes and critique them for not upholding their own high standard of “beauty” sure mmmmmkay
Exactly those girls are beautiful naturally and their visuals need more praising
Exactly!!! They expect them to be perfect NATURALLY, it’s impossible.
True that!!!
In regards to the plastic surgery, 95% of all idols had have at least one on their career. The most common being the double eyelids and rhinoplasty. It’s sad because most companies force their idols to do so. But I honestly don’t get the hate.
Note: the percent really isn’t accurate. It was just a way to make it clear, with something that tends to happen so close doors, it’s impossible to know.
it’s just some idols are better at hiding the plastic surgery procedures by the surgery not being as obvious… but idols have definitely had at least one thing done to their face and it’s sad bc they’re expected to be perfect
Ummm no company force any idol, it's just myth
@@jihyoslove971 it could be true, we know idols are forced to do a lot of things so at least there could be 1 case out of thousands of idols
@@OldDannyDevito I personally believe that it’s the public perception of a “kpop idol” which is putting pressure onto idols to go under the knife. Unfortunately, it’s a pretty common mentality to believe they have to be good looking and, weirdly enough, it’s pretty risky to debut if you aren’t pretty/handsome.
Knowing how the “unattractive kpop idols” get treated online, I completely understand why they feel like it’s their responsibility to change just for others to respect and praise them more. This is clearly a problem within the country as a whole (not saying that to attack S.Korea; my country has the same problem).
@@jihyoslove971 well can and can’t be, they definitely put lots of pressure in this young idols so maybe is not force but definitely manipulated
I think that saying "Its all natural" when its plastic surgery is something that shouldn't be said at all, it puts an standard that's unachievable without it and there is nothing wrong with having PS, people just need to disclose it.
There is no such thing as "Matured" that will change your face to that. No way. There is some PS involved.
ikr puberty just make you look like a more mature version of yourself it doesn't reshape your bone structure, gives you double eyelids and a smaller nose
@@inseungwoonamewestan1196 actually it can give you double eyelids XD
Nah its no ones business if they get surgery lmao. They dont have to say if they've had surgery or not if they dont want to lmao.
@@caitlink.6475 It is, they are creating unachievable standards after all, is like Kim kardashian saying that its all natural. People believe her and get meltdowns when they can't achieve her looks because of how unrealistic it is, the same idea, different people.
@@OldDannyDevito nah its not anyones business what someone does to themselves. People are just obsessive freaks lmao
The definition of cultural appropriation has been so watered down in the last few years. Using items from other cultures is absolutely normal, and goes along with globalisation. It’s only appropriation if you deny the origin of said thing and seek to profit off of it, erasing the cultural background behind it.
Something has bad past
Yes I definitely agree! Some hairstyles in African/African-North American culture have abusive histories behind them so it makes sense why someone wouldn’t want others to use it
On the other side though, if someone is wearing a Sari, not to make it mock or make it trendy, but just out of loving that part of the culture, that isn’t appropriation, it’s beauty and respect.
If you like a hairstyle, you shouldnt have to research it and explain it to everyone who looks at it. We are free beings who may dress as we please, without explanation or apology.
@@makesparkzfly i met an Indian girl who told me if i like saris, i should just order one and wear it. She wasnt offended. I think being offended on behalf of other people is a strictly american thing and needs to stop. It is embarrassing and virtue signaling. Just do what you like. It doesnt have to be a whole ordeal.
in regards to ive, i understand the backlash. in korea the legal age is 19 (international age) and since yujin is 18 she was still underage at the time.
Is this the worst thing a minor could wear in kpop? No we seen way worse. but i do think wearing a bralette is a bit inappropriate so i think knetz had every right to feel uncomfortable!
But minors wear bras too... Sure, it's weird that stylists made her wear it outside the dress. But to me personally it wasn't even super reveling or anything, her chest was still fully covered. Just my opinion
@@marynapasko9627 oh ofc i been wearing bras since i was 11 😂 but it's like it's still lingerie and just having it outside the shirt is weird and just a bit inappropriate
" But to me personally it wasn't even super reveling or anything, her chest was still fully covered" agreed 100% i think that deserves more flake.
For me personally when I saw this incident i wasn't outraged or anything-it's more i understand where knetz are coming from even though i dont share the same feelings as them.
thats nothing wrong with her outfit 🤦♀️
Why do people always have to bring “being a minor” into what they wear? They can do as they please.
@@l.3857 when they performers and have eyes on them, you have bring “their a minor” to understand fully it would been deemed as inappropriate
Tbh I don't have any issue or against of aespa plastic surgery. its their choice but many young girls look up to them and they Karina looks so unrealistic beautiful almost like AI..they feel down and think they are not beautiful enough. And that's the main problem
More like the agency choice
@@joy0953 maybe..
@@namjoonsbonsai3817 bestie, in KPOP world idols don't get that much freedom like us
@@joy0953 yeah I am understanding. This is actually scary how companies are manufacturing idols 😬😬
@@namjoonsbonsai3817 95% of my fandom know they done ps. We just appreciate their visuals they r beautiful with or without. She is already gorgeous
I’m pretty sure Aespa has gotten work done
Yup they did
i mean yeah alot of idols do
@@koorooomie mhm!
Just about every idol has, even ones who really didn’t need it do such as Jisoo. One has to be willfully ignorant of the fact South Korea is the Mecca of plastic surgery
Rather than denying it we should remove the stigma. It also helps normal people feel better about themselves as to not always compare themselves to literal perfection
@SonderDAze X It’s done in mutile procedures too so you don’t notice any sudden change
Lisa is a good example of this. Her side profile isn’t the same as it was before
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easy explanation of the difference for those who still dont know:
APPRECIATION: is eating a dinner so phenomenal that you ask the chef for the recipe.
APPROPRIATION: is stealing the chef´s handwritten cookbook, changing the recipe names and publishing it as you own for millions and then leaving the restaurant an one-star review.
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this was actually BTS´ korean stylists´ fault because they refused to cooperate and giving out their measurements to the designer overseas who was in charge of making the outfits for them. so obviously they had the wrong fit.
Cultural appropriation is not a thing.
@@CXY96 ?
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@@CXY96 what do you mean by your comment? Sorry, I don't get your point
Thats such a good example lol
People blamed it on the girls. . when it was actually SME who did those..... To match their so called"AI concept ".....
And honestly they're all pretty with or Without plastic surgerys...
Agree, I don't get why people usually accuse idols and not companies or this industry as a whole, when it's them who are responsible for all of it. Also, something tells me that idols would still be blamed even if they didn't have anything done cause they 'don't fit the standards' and all. It's like you can never win
They were decent looking without surgery but we know damn well their visuals would've been made fun of if they didn't get it
It's just so hypocritical of criticizing idols for getting plastic surgery/surgeries when their society are basically advertising it, like I heard that it's normal of giving your daughter an eyelid surgery as a graduation gift lol
almost all idols have gotten something done, plastic surgery is so common in the industry and also the country itself. why deny it and act like it's an insult? it's obvious that aespa and chungha had it and there's nothing wrong with it. your faves probably did it, my faves as well, end of the story. about the outfits, i'm kinda tired of edgy teens defending companies who know exactly what they're doing with making underaged idols were the most "provocative" outfits and marketing them in a certain way.
The thing is people use ps AS an insult (wich is dumb) and that's why is a sensitive topic now, some stans wants their idols to be superior than others for have a "natural face"
In regards to Lisa I think the reason why this CA allegations was so bad this time is because Yg never addressed the CA accusations back in KTL era and not addressing the problem earlier caused the blowback to be even worse this time
when something happens several times yeah people naturally get more angry
@@ahnhyungseobhaveyoulearnth8286 atp I think yg is doing it on purpose
@@Tarrynmj this oneeee
I don't understand why Lisa's braids are CA, I though the african braids are from the root of the hair but she had a ponytail. Could someone explain me this pls?
@honey vanity not all braids from africa start from the roots. many styles have the top of the hair slicked down or tied up right and then braided. there’s so many different traditional braids. also the fact that she only ever has them when rapping or doing anything hiphop like makes it obvious.l that it is CA. there’s only a chinese clan that does have it similar to african american braids but halfway. thai culture doesn’t even have braids you literally find them where you find stuff like even native headbands. and their braids aren’t even the whole hair, just a few strands.
Why people always act like getting plastic surgery is something bad? It's totally fine to do it and when it comes to celebrities it's even more common because their face is a really important part of their job. Korea is known for plastic surgeries, so denying the fact that really big % of idols had something done is useless. It only makes people insecure about themselves. No, not everyone was born with a slim face, v-shaped jaw, small nose, full lips and big eyes and that's totally fine, but if someone decided to change something in their face it's also okay. Yes, aespa had something done, but does that makes them any less human? No. Chungha's face looks way different than few years ago - her face, her choice. You can have different preferences, but idols aren't your pretty toys. If you're againts plastic surgery great, don't do it, but don't dare to force your way of thinking onto other people.
Very well said
I feel the same when it comes to PED’s and dermatologist procedures
Nothing wrong in these things but we need to be honest about what beautiful people do. It will make society healthier
First of all cosmetic surgery is not medically necessary, so imo embracing ur own natural beauty is far better option cause surgery can be harmful from time to time. Secondly these idols are creating these absurd beauty standards for young minds which are detrimental and some of them are even denying having any procedure done. Yes, it is their choice but atleast they should come clean about it.
@@doremiborabora8051 they deny it because then they would be slapped arround by the masses. Because for some reason in this superficial society investing in your appearance with PS somehow diminishes your value as a person.
It is bad tho??
@@nayab3704 how is getting plastic surgery bad?
I used to care a lot about who wears what kind of hairstyle but honestly, there are so many problems in the world like climate change, world hunger, poverty, racism (obviously), that someone wearing a hairstyle of a different culture is not on my radar. As long as they are respectful and appreciative and not actively disrespecting the culture then fine yknow? Like there are real problems to fix, like the systemic oppression of African Americans and POC and women’s rights etc etc
I don’t know who even made the trend of wearing bra outside dress in the first place😂
Whether or not the idols have had plastic surgery should be up to them, but I wish they would admit it so that young fans don't compare their looks to the looks of idols (same applies to Western celebs)
True but most of the time they’re forced to get surgery by their company (especially in giant kpop companies like YG or SM.) IMO this is really toxic, this can really effect idols mental health and self image. Like imagine being told you have to “fix” your face or else you can’t debut no matter how talented you are. I’d be heartbroken if that were me, I can’t imagine how these idols must feel.
+ I do wish they were honest about their surgeries too! It’s unfair to young, insecure fans. But part of me feels like the companies may tell them to keep quiet about them. Just a guess, but we all know how strict these companies are.
@@hotsexyangel oh, 100% I bet the companies make them keep quiet. I mean, the only idol I know of who's admitted to having surgery is Jessi, and I'm pretty sure she's only able to do that because she's under P Nation
I mean I won’t get offended when a foreigner wears my culture traditional clothes or hairstyle, I just think I can’t change the past but I can change the future, I can’t change the sorrows of my ancestors but I can try improve what lacked in the past. I don’t want to stick around in the past because that’s not where we are, generation by generation we can improve this and make it better..
Somehow normalization of ps is not right for me. We should love ourselves more coz beauty is more than what we see on the surface. Let the world change their perspectives, dont let it destroy you.
tbh plastic surgery is something that always urks me since the very first korean wave started to go international like a couple of years ago. it's not the surgery itself that's problematic. it's the fact that they aren't honest with their fans they have one. which most of the time bcs being prohibited by their company. but this issue bleed out to another big issues.
first of all it become an unrealistic beauty standard that will affecting young audience. since they aren't honest, we were forced to believe that they are born with that perfect face. this mentality is damaging esp to younger audience. the concept is the same with kylie lying about her lip filler or kim k lying about her getting a bbl surgery. they weren't born with it. and if younger audience sees them and think "they are so perfect. meanwhile im just here... ugly af" it will def affecting their mental health
other issue will be we will questioning every kpop idol whether they have one or not. some people on the comment said 95% of idols did it, but what about the 5%? if they were asked and denied people would think they are lying bcs how common it is to have surgery and lie about it.
i consider myself as a new kpop fan. but this issue still wont sit right for me. until there're idols who wants to break this stereotype, it's still gonna b a long journey to battle this issue
I completely agree with this and I'm so glad you said it.
I think the internet is obsessed with THAT picture of karina she has better pictures before debut, she was literally an ulzzang yall 😭
Regarding plastic surgery, it’s common practice in South Korea. I have a Korean friend and she said a lot of teenagers (esp. aspiring celebrity) asked for some surgery as a graduation or birthday presents. It’s just like you asking for new laptop but for them it’s a surgery🤷🏻♀️ plus what’s wrong with plastic surgery? If they’re on the appropriate age, want it, can afford it and happy with it then good for them.
its not a secret that most idols if not every single one of them had plastic surgery, theres nothing wrong with it. whether you like it or not to become an idol skills arent enough, you need to have the visual as well its part of the job
and some of them don't even do plastic surgery and get hate on for using plastic surgery like bts the only members that use plastic surgery was suga and rm and it was for health conditions
@@temoywhite2751No. Stop being delusional and defending them like they're not millionares.
@@joontheestallion796 what💀 come again...
@@temoywhite2751 just stop thinking that other members didn't do ps lol y'all always use "they were poor" or "only health related surgery" excuses and for what.
@@joontheestallion796 i talked about just 2 members which is the truth suga did plastic surgery on his shoulders causehe was in a car accident and namjoon didplastic surgery on his nose because he couldn't breather and he was nearly gonna die kpop idols can do plastic surgery if they want i don't bring excuses to that ijust was stating something....💀
I still don’t find anything wrong with yuna’s black outfit for loco like- the girl literally wore more revealing clothes during every other era and nobody had a problem with that😩😭
As usual I love your videos.
I'm humbly requesting Billie, Kepler and IVE VS Korean beauty standards
It still shocks me how divided the black community was with the whole Lisa situation , most people were offended and most people weren't
Im black and i couldnt care less
@@yujinchu7132 yea cuz ur obsessed with koreans
@@kittyfries13 lmao im not pls u dont even know me
@@kittyfries13 ur cute tho
@@kittyfries13 They mean "ur cute" for thinking you know them.
KARINA has the most SUCESSUFUL plastic surg transformation EVER haahahha she became a video game character but in a "natural" wayt hahah
kinda the opposity oof PARK BOM who even got backlash for her plastics cuz ir was very artificial for the public .
I miss the kibbe videos 😭 there's still so many group's member's kibbe that i wanna know
im glad lisa acc apologized and took time to listen to fan concerns about the CA!
Plastic surgery isn't a sin!
Their face, their choice, their responsibility
Yuna's outfit was totally fine it was my favorite dress in the loco era , there be 13 year Olds wearing push ups and that's fine? But Yuna a 18/20yr old (international / korean age ) wears a black leather dress with a small deep cut it's not fine? Smh.
Both is not okay
The problem is not Yuna or the outfit. It's the sexualisation of women's body.
@@inconnuinconnu4927 yeah
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Kinda sad seeing Karina’s picture because that girl literally had many great photos and they pick the worst looking ones?? Like if someone used my worst looking photo for something I’m gonna cry
That's what i think tho, especially she was an ulzzang in her teenage days, she has a lot of good predebut pics but they picked the worst one lol
I have read that the girl in the photo is not even Karina, and it makes sense because Karina has other photos where she looks the same as now but being underage. The girl in the photo that Karina is being compared to is just someone who looks like her.
BTS's current stylist needs to be fired ASAP, they are not doing their job.
I really like ur contents ; >
People need to remember that 1 out of 3 women in korea(which is probbly over the 50percent) and men make up 20 percent of surgical patients and its ok theres nothing wrong with the surgery even i had some done and i dont blame the its a toxic industry and they have to live up to unreachable standards
1/3 is NOT 50% it's about 33%
people need to just accept idols get plastic surgery, almost every single idol has had some sort of procedure to enhance beauty (some are 100% natural though, which i love). idk why people still deny chungha and aespa had surgery... they literally all did. it's obvious, just acknowledge that it's fake instead of acting like it's natural, it's not. stupid beauty standards have such young people getting their faces cut open to please the masses, that's demented. my favorite thing about some idols are their personal visual traits that others don't have. for instance, twice mina's beauty marks, twice nayeon's bunny teeth (and soobin!), bts yoongi's gummy smile, dkb junseo's eyes..!!! gahhh they're adorable UwU. i wish kmedia was more uplifting to natural beauty and little quirks rather than enforcing a society where surgery is the only way to succeed. it's sad.
It‘s just so sarcastic that many netizens criticise idols who underwent plastic surgery but when an idol doesn‘t fit korean beauty standards they also hate..
They will never be satisfied, but it seems that „perfection“ matters the most nowadays.. it‘s just sad…
It's just so hypocritical, imagine if these idols wouldn't have gotten plastic surgery and for example have a bigger nose. They would probably be called ugly by those very same people who criticize them for getting plastic surgery. You can never win ugh
3:14 Winter before kinda looks like Yunho from Ateez
Ikr
You've done Karina dirty with that thumbnail that's for sure 🙄
hypocrite fans be like “omg yes ps is never bad ! It's their choice & their face " & say “No my fave never did any ps!! He/she is naturally soooo beautiful as fuck" and deny when their faves are accused for doing ps when it's clearly visible.
A Lot of love from Brazil🇧🇷💕
Almost all of them had plastic surgery and it shows, it still created a false stereotype for younger women that they can’t even achive without ps.
It’s okey if they have ps, it’s their money and health. Buy denying it is a no
please do stayc’s and weeekly’s kibbe!
Imo most idols did get ps and that's okay. It's just a matter of how obvious it is or not. Some might get it in one go so the before after are so drastic, and some others got it gradually so the changes are subtle
Omg it's the best 😍😍😍 I almost cried tho 😭😭
I don't have anything against plastic surgery and i don't really mind when they do it before debut but when it's after debut... I'm not saying i hate how namjoo & naeun looks like now but i can't get use to it, i don't see why would they do it when it's so much better before they did it
You cannot seriously be saying Aespa didn't have plastic surgeries like anyone can tell they've done it, then u have some dummies defending them lol plastic surgery is okay but denying it too sell horrible beauty standards to people is not okay
It’s pretty selfish to claim braids as theirs and no one is allowed to do it.
Excactly It has been used in my country for 1000 + years. (Scandinavia) i don’t see the problem.
*region
Not even a fan of lisa and im black but I wasn’t offended, why? Because I have my family and other important things to worry about instead of crying and getting offended over someone who I don’t even know wearing a hairstyle that isn’t hurting me in any way physically or mentally. I still don’t get why black people get offended over it because of the past if we weren’t there, we didn’t experience any of those things those black people from long ago experienced so why should we be the one to get offended like we are some victims? Then again I can’t speak for everyone.
Also, since when was black a culture? Black people can be from many other cultures but black it self isn’t a culture.
yes so now you minimise thé Feelings of black people because they feel what they feel. shame on you girl
Lmao you're so funny 💀
@@sunsetlover922 i literally said that I dont speak for everyone
@@R3atootall so what ? it change nothing
yes black isn't a culture but they take those stereotypes of us and make them look like "oh i make rap blabla i'm a gangster blablabla"
I feel like defaulting to plastic surgery is done too easily.. I can see saying many idols have had some sort of treatment done, though (whether it’s surgery, injections, or other non-surgery/injection treatments)..
You’d be surprised how effective fillers and Botox can be used to alter someone’s facial features to where it looks like they could have had surgery. It’s pretty amazing to see what all is out there now in terms of options for non-surgical procedures.
Appropriation to me is taking and mocking or making fun of something cultural
Like what? PS isn't a crime.....most idols have PS and it's totally normal.....I don't get it why they are hated so much....it's also sad most companies force them to have PS🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I really feel bad for this idols
Please do EXO (OT12) vs Korean Beauty Standards
I grew up in a country where there were practically no black people. (northern country). My mother and grandmother wore pigtails all their youth, but suddenly now I’m scared to do it, what if someone thinks the wrong thing (if my photo is seen in America). Probably everyone should understand the difference between dreadlocks and pigtails, which were made in many countries for a very long time. Or I don't understand something!
I can't take Lisa seriously anymore after her solo debut. It's not just the braids, it's the blaccent she uses in her raps, the lyrics that make her sound like a tryhard wannabe, it's everything. It's like she's trying to cosplay what she thinks are popular black rappers and it's just pathetic. Meanwhile she's said she had "educated" herself on these topics before her debut lmao. SOooo she did but knows she'll get away with it anyway so who cares?
Braids like that are used in most cultures tho.
I think when fans are mature about it talking about plastic surgery is a positive thing like what are we supposed to do? We can’t pretend that celebrities don’t have a huge influence on the beauty standards that we use every day to judge normal people… I think not talking about it and pretending everyone is natural is harmful to all of us. If you do plastic surgery you need to be prepared to receive some sort of reaction from the public. Also I think the criticism makes it less likely that someone will get addicted to plastic surgery and make choices that they will regret.
Ok they had plastic surgery, so ?
Who's fault is that ?
And is taking plastic surgery a sin ?
They wouldn't have made it as idols with just talents and even if they did let's see what all the netizens will say so stop.
this situation with braids is kinda annoying, first of all braids are not only a part of black culture, there are many places on the world having this hairstyle, even in my own culture (uzbek), people wear braids as national hairstyle; secondly, even if idols wear this style, they don't do it as a mockery but because they like it, that's why I don't understand where the hate is coming from; and lastly, the term of cultural appropriation is too exaggerated in recent years, living in the times of globalization, it's impossible to avoid cultural exchange and isn't it a good sign if your culture is praised abroad
Idc if idols get plastic surgery as long as they inform the public like jooe from momoland did.
Otherwise they are setting impossible beauty standards which young fans see and think of themselves as ugly like I used to. And thats very wrong.
U r right
Twice didnt set the outfit jyp did
JYPE* but yeah
stupid stylist/ designer created all this unnecessary drama around it
They can't be this perfect nobody's perfect remember that
can we just accept that they've had ps and move on please? it's so normal now why are we still making it a big deal
I personally don’t think Lisa should have wore the braids whether or not it’s part of Thai culture we know that’s not what they were going for.
Of course the Aespa members have had plastic surgery, they are idols in South Korea which is the Plastic surgery capital of the World... literally. Also there nothing wrong with plastic surgery and Idols DONT owe anyone an answer they don’t have to confess in having surgery it’s none of our business.
DubChaeng and Twice deserve better Jyp definetly did that on purpose, of course jyp have seen the modern hanbock BLACKPINK did so Im glad jyp faces backlash because the designer who did the modern hanbock is the one who actually called them out. Also jyp have a history of plagiarising
The provocative outfits and sexualisation of underage idols is disgusting but Clearly South Koreans and the kpop industry are not ready for that conversation which is so disturbing and I don’t know why this isn’t talked about more. I love how they have a rule that the idols can’t work past 11 and make them leave award shows where they literally sit and have fun, but sexualising minors is a okayy
When it comes to stylists I think we do need to give them a break but at the same time when theres clearly no effort put in like the creased clothing and over sized shoes then fans should call them out.
Looks like dresses and outfits are made for one people this day..... that mean all of my friends copying my school uniform 😒😝
i believe we are not ugly, we're just poor👏🏻
when ppl talk about the sexualisation of underage idols, they often only look at the female idols. yes, the poor girls go through so much that i could never imagine happening to me, but we can’t forget the sexualisation the male idols face.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with getting ps but if these idols pretend as of they didn't get it done then there's a problem. Alot of people may praise their visuals when it is not even natural. This why I belive in focusing on a person talent more than focusing on theie visual.
Sorry but modern cultural appropriation is just the Americans saying bullshit left and right
With Jimin and Ryujin's shoes, that's a thing that happens all the time. When things are ordered offline they might come a different size than on the label (I'm sure everyone's experienced this) and sometimes, it's too late to send them back and change them or get another pair of shoes.
Also, many of these styling choices/changing also happen last minute or there's a rush backstage, they don't come in time or there's no one there to prepare them before the idols get there, things like creased skirts, tops, etc happen.
And 90% of idols have had at least some type of cosmetic procedure (even if it's just braces to make their teeth more appealing or getting their teeth whitened.) Aespa's, Lisa's and Chungha's surgeries are undeniable but I don't think they deserve hate for it, it's their choice (and I think they look great!)
Idk, I see black people tattoo Chinese words and wear Qipao or use Chinese decoration numerous times, they don't consider that's cultural appropriation? I feel they are hard on others and give themselves a free pass. Honestly, we don't care if foreigners wear Qipao, as long they present it well, but I feel for black culture, they are strict, even when the presentation is pretty, they still got mad.
Bruh, 95% kpop idols done plastic surgery but people are acting like only aespa done it. So many groups especially big names done it it's their body their face they never received any money from you to do ps. Remember inner beauty is most important.
Not box braids, just braids.
Of Lisa's hair is cultural appropriation then I want all of you non-asians supporting this narrative to stop eating your sushi and dumplings with chopsticks. Ok???
Honestly despite plastic surgery or not they were already pretty or good looking since the start, k-entertainment demands perfection (i think without a decent base they won't look that good even with surgery lol). Even ones who didn't do the actual surgery would still do fillers or occasional treatments procedure...
I think one of the biggest arguments about Lisa hair is that Lisa wasn’t wearing braids when she was “embracing her culture” she did it on a hip hop song about money that was laced with slang used in the African American community. Regardless of the braids origins (same with Chaeyoung) just cause stylist try to find a loop hole to stimulate an image doesn’t mean they aren’t CA, they watered it down enough while still trying to portray a very important part of history that isn’t there’s
Alot of people hate me for this but i m going to say this every artist has undergone either surgeries or worst diet for achieving the unrealistic body or beauty standards. This is loop hole for all , even artist undergoes depression because of such stuff. Its concerning and dangerous not just for the artist but the people watching , sometimes it leads to person getting insecure about their own looks and then opting for worst methods to achieve that. Like iu diet for example , iu talked about how she developed eating disorder because of it yet still you might see people talking how they are going to try iu diet plan and schedule.
Since when was sampling not ok?
I never understood the thing with the braids i mean it's just a freaking hair style. And all ppl from different culture have braid's
PLEASE DO FROMIS_9 VS K BEAUTY STANDARDS PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's funny how people claim the accessories as their own race and others shouldn't wear. Like duh?
Yo esperando los subtitulos en español 🤡💔 bueno al menos aprendo ingles😂
I am MY and I would say that the only members with plastic surgery are Winter (nose and eyes) and Giselle (nose and maybe fat was removed from her face), but Karina looks the same as in her predebut photos when she was known as ulzzang for her beauty on Instagram, the girl in the photo they showed only looks like Karina but is not her, Karina's nose and eyes in her predebut photos look the same and she was also underage back then, she hadn't even entered SM when she took her photos. And Ningning looks the same as ever, only her skin looks much paler.
They are the ones who cause such problems becoz when you come too cute netizens just bash you
Eu acredito que essa foto predebut da karina é outra pessoa🤔
@V. yup
already a classmate who looks like a carina😉
It's good to be inspire by their talent but not by their looks or figure coz either they had plastic or they wear hip pad or workout alot ( no hate ) even if their company forces them we should not idealize them on basis of looks and body except hwasa 💗 queen ✨
2:30 that fan DM Min Hee Jin to let the members of Ador new gg (HYBE sub label ) about CA ..I don't think it was meant for entire industry as I saw it in her twitter
Some people really want to believe that their faves are naturally beautiful..Didn't they realize that their faves are in a country well known for ps..didn't they realize that their faves looks change so much overtime..changes that can't naturally happen to normal human being..
Fromis_9 vs Korean beauty standards please
I like your accent. Where are you from?
"we couldn't leave one of the biggest group" aight imma head out, not interested
The plagiarism ones makes sense. But come on serious?? Fan wars over that shit? That's so fucking stupid. Blame the companies and no one else. Also the over sized outfits and under age stuff. Everything else is just stupid
She kinda sound like that girl in k-buzz
O my goodness they literally copy blackpink 😮 and the designer .
But they can use facial exercises to change thier appearance
SM plastic surgeon is so good that it looks so natural, you will not be mistaken them of having a ps not until you see their pre-debut pics
just want to say this now because ik y'all are gonna be disrespectful in the comments. If you're not black don't speak on what is right or wrong in Lisa's situation. If a black person says they feel uncomfortable or upset by Lisa's hairstyle don't invalidate them but instead listen to their thoughts and use this as an experience to grow and understand a different side. Also Lisa has already acknowledged it and apologized so there's no need to get all riled up defending her from "haters" and being disrespectful by making up lies such as "Thai braids" it only makes Lisa look worse. If you are not black know your place and hear what black people have to say which shouldn't be hard but for some reason it's near impossible within the kpop fandom community.
Agree with you
But it's said that they are more famous for perfect beauty standards than their singing talent and overseas fanbase are more toxic than mainland fans in my country kpop fanbase freak out just mentioning anything about their favorite celebs if any youtuber or social influencer include 5 seconds of any of their videos Or clips their fanbase attention will only focus towards that tiny seconds of clips but if someone is criticising them in positive ways the video comments will be full of hate speech like haters gonna hate , You are jealous from their sucess
I don't want to target any fanbase this conclusion only emphasis what is happening in my country hope similar incidents are not happening in your country
Bro imagine people bashing on your face, your body and then doing something about it only to have people say the previous you was more "natural" like what do you want from these idols. Too fat, Too skinny, too tan, too cute, too sexy, not sexy enough, big nose, small nose, ..... just let it rest, it pisses me off because you have every right to find someone unattractive but why would say that shit to their face knowing they would get hurt and still bitch about it when they make changes.