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The MOST Criticized PLASTIC SURGERIES in Kpop
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- Опубліковано 16 січ 2022
- The MOST Criticized PLASTIC SURGERIES in Kpop
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Park Bom‘s case is so heartbreaking. It‘s obvious that she’s extremely anxious and insecure about herself. I really hope someday she‘ll learn to accept herself. She‘s seems like such a nice and humble person
She was so beautiful before plastic surgery she didn't even need it I feel so bad for her ... not that she isn't beautiful anymore
@@nenokedoken885 she also had a beautiful singing voice before she changed her style to fit YG’s standards
Actually she had face problem health
She has medical reason too.
@@nenokedoken885 she has medical reason too
I’m pretty much neutral towards plastic surgery, but my problem comes when celebs in general deny that they’ve had anything done as it can create really harmful and damaging beauty standards that others practically kill themselves over trying to achieve
Yes! If plastic surgery helps with your self confidence, go for it! Lying about it will only make things worse
ikr. then poor naive young girls on the internet believe it and that increases their insecurity that why those models are natural beauty but she isn't.. i hate that when they hide it and tr to manifest that they are natural. there is nothing wrong with surgery
I mean not all celebs have surgery lol. You can be naturally beautiful. Can't assume they're lying just because they're pretty.
@@mdorrdar3656 not everyone who is beautiful has plastic surgery. go to therapy
@@uui219 that is literally not the point here? "go to therapy?" tf you being mean for. they're clearly pointing at those that HAD their face done but is lying, not those who are naturally beautiful weirdo
I want to know who is the plastic surgeon of the sm... because the idols of that company always have the best features thanks to the surgeon, he does the best job in all of Korea.
True but then on the other hand they all end up with same noses, eyelids and chins. No wonder u can tell they are "sm idols".
@@killjoym6973 every idol who did PS did it to fit into the K-beauty standards, so most of the idols end up with the same features for me not just SM idols.
@@mounirdc5201 yeah but when u look at sm idols they have that specific look, maybe it's surgeon' signature lmao.
not just SM
JYP YG have good surgeons too
honestly i want to find the surgeons of big3
SM definitely send winter and karina to the same surgeon as taeyeon, while giselle to krystal's
Park bom is the lil kim of kmusic. Lil kim was mistreated bc of how dark her skin was. Park bom was getting bullied by her label and netizens bc of her visuals. And now they have extreme changes in their looks to fit a standard they weren't meant to fit in the first place.
Exactly
Great comparison, I haven't thought of it that way. Poor ladies
Wasn't Bom botched as well?
@@SebastiansLeftGlove0731 she's not botched, she has swollen lymph nods because of her illness
@@saya-mi Oh oK thanks 😲
It's so hypocritical: they call people ugly and tell them to change. Then they succumb to the pressure OR also get sth done because they genuinely want to, but the public still talks pure s*** about them. At this point, honestly, do whatever the hell you want, bc people are going to be toxic a.holes anyway, so you might as well do what makes YOU happy.
THIS!!! 👆👆 ppl bash others for their looks and get shocked when they do change them. What do they want?
4minutes went through that and that was heartbreaking
Yeah I'm agree. Ps or make-up shouldn't be a huge controversy imo (unless it becomes too harmful to the person, or being forced to do it). The reason why these topics always hot was because there are some people out there who like to pointing out idol's (or celebs in general) visuals. When the celebs deny or never pay attention to the rumors, that over concerned people talking sh*t about to the celebs. And there's also media or people who host a variety show that will make an "open iv" and want the answer, not considering about the people in concern's feeling.
this is so true!!! this comment should be pinned!!!
Yesss👍👍
I always laugh at the people saying “you’ve never heard of puberty??” Like yes.. but you can CLEARLY see that their face is very different from their childhood or pre-debut pictures. A lot of kpop fans likes to deny their idols having ps when it’s very obvious 😭
True. Puberty can't make a big,short nose becomes Super small, tall nose and A big face becomes small face. A single eyelid become Double eyelids and it can't make us look too different like two others pp . If puberty could do that All cosmetic surgery should closed
Or when they say it’s just makeup or weight loss lmao
All of ratmy's ..
@@minhtran-dc7nn or Square jaw to vline jaw. Almost all idols shaved their jaw it is sad. They also so focused on natural makeup but their face is not natural anymore is so sad and hypocritical.
exactly. and for the most part, even minor surgeries can make someone look better, and most idols do get work done. the only person i can think of who i really don't think had any work done would be seulgi of rv.
Its crazy how netizens criticize looks of idols all the time and then get mad at idols getting plastic surgery. They are the reason why kpop idols focus on visuals so much💀
The only thing I hate about it... is idols actively lying about it and blaming their changes on puberty. It just creates more insecurities in their young, impressionable audience and more unobtainable beauty standards that are impossible to achieve naturally. I understand is non of our business but I also don’t like it when they go out of their way to deny it.
EDIT: For the people asking me to name idols. I won’t. They already get enough hate as it is because of plastic surgery allegations and I won’t add to the fire. You, however, are very welcome to look it up.
Again, there’s is NOTHING wrong with plastic surgery, however, celebrities lying about it can be problematic because they are contributing to the already impossible beauty standards for women (men too).
ikr exactly. and fans defending that ugh are they blind?
They just don't say anything lol. I've only seen a few idols lie about it.
i haven't seen many idols lie and blame it on puberty... most idols don't even bring it up or talk about their surgeries. it's always the fans who make assumptions or say their idols are just "naturally good looking" or had a glowup... lmao
@@autumn_emerald3919 Not all obviously, but a lot..sometimes is not even the idols themselves but the companies pushing this idea of their idols being "natural beauty" ...
uhm don't you rather mean kpop fans? bc idols don't really talk about it. at least none of the idols i know well have ever talked about this topic. then again they've had nothing done so there's nothing to talk about or to deny lol
Plastic surgeries shouldn't be normalised but also we shouldn't be rude or disrespectful towards the people who has gotten them.
exactly this
Yup 👍🏽
I have really mixed feelings because I actually did get plastic surgery on my nose, and I'm very happy with it and it gave me a lot more confidence in myself. But some idols are being turned into looking like different people from pre-debut, and then denying plastic surgery and it doesn't make sense. But at the same time, they're pretty much forced into it by their companies and the pressure of wanting to adhere to korean beauty standards, so they shouldn't receive hate, they should just be honest about it.
yes but you probably already had a high nose bridge (judging from your photo) and you don't deny it either. The joke here is that Koreans change their faces to features that are, by default, not Korean. Look at Jessi or Chungha: they are becoming less and less Korean looking. Show current photos of them to anyone and people would say they look like South East Asians, Islanders, Natives of some Pacific Islands, you name it - everything but Korean. Actor Lee Minho, Ji Changwook (he used to be SO GOODLOOKING before, I almost cried when I saw him post-surgery), BTS Jhope, Aespa Winter noses are extremely non-Korean, and so are all those v-line jawlines. Koreans have by default square jawlines, low nose bridges, round noses, and darker skin. (Find me any Korean child with a bleached skin tone like Dahyun, Taeyeon, IU, Winter. It is simply not the natural skin colour of Korean genetic.) And them changing that and claiming that "they grew out of it" is the ridiculous part. (Grew out of ethnicity-defining features?)
You at least did not change yourself to look like from another ethnicity/continent and claim that you hadn't done any procedure.
@@NoctLightCloud genetics within a given ethnicity differ a lot and some people just have uncharacteristic features, and by all reason, the idol casting process will favour them if these features are considered attractive. It would be foolish to claim that they all must have darker skin, since they're most closely related to North Chinese and Japanese, who also have a very varying skin tone. There's basically no evidence to suggest that Dahyun or IU have a bleached skin, and some to the contrary (though obviously evidence can be manipulated), and the number of pale idols is not anyhow out of the ordinary. Nose and facial shapes can differ a lot too. Next you're gonna claim that people of my ethnicity (southeast European) can't be blonde, because it's not typical - well it's not, and I'm not, but it happens, and lighter skin than usual happens as well.
We don't usually see idols the way they actually look. Skin tones form a very distinctive line on the vectorscope, and editors habitually grab it and twist it brighter and less brown. So odds are the pale ones aren't actually pale, just a shade lighter than everyone around them.
Which is not to say that there isn't a large number of idols who had substantial cosmetic work done, I'm sure there are.
@@SianaGearz I agree with your last two paragraphs. I am also Southeast European and my mom and her sisters are all blonde and blue-eyed (which is kinda rare, but it exists) so why the hell would I say that? Don't put things into people's mouth like that. I have been a fan of Taeyeon since 2010 and what kind of camera technology makes her skin a few shades paler in moving (live performance, tv show) pictures, and only her and no one else? Deep fake tech, maybe? Idk I haven't seen her natural, 2010-skin colour for years now on any footage, thus I assume she has actually bleached her skin. Same goes for Dahyun and IU. Dahyun had the same skin colour as every other member yet she suddenly stands out in group photos as super pale. There is no way people only edit and photoshop her but no one else? I have lived in South Korea (luckily before Corona) and yes, "nose and facial shapes can differ a lot" but no Korean naturally has THAT high and straight nose bridges and v-shaped jaws, I am sorry. Or that is really pale-pale, like my Russian friends and me. (Look at North Koreans (although ps is also common there now), or at any 90s pics of Korean teens.) If you live there and actually see the naturally looking Korean, it hits you even more what the idols have done to achieve that look. Regarding the first half of your first sentence, yes, of course, I know that. I've also lived in Japan and the Japanese vary MUCH more in face shape and skin colour - they look like downright different ethnicities depending on where in Japan (e.g., Okinawa vs. Hokkaido - compare Namie Amuro to any Tokyo-born AKB48 member). In the end, it's their body and no one's harm and we shouldn't mendle, BUT the harmful thing to youngsters really is that the idols are denying it. (All of my Korean friends have major face complexes, some of them even cover their face 24/7 and say they want surgery while they look perfectly normal ("Korean") to me. It's soul-crushing and sad. There is no way that everyone there, even actors, have complexes and want to suddenly change their appereance, 5yrs into their career. It's systematic and unachievable, and we shouldn't support it.) These trends kinda give off the vibe of Koreans being ashamed of the Korean face. It makes no sense to compare Koreans to Europe as Europe is heterogenous while Korea is homogenous af, you can't get more homogenous than that unless you go to islands. Imagine a whole homogenous population wishing to artificially change their jaw shapes, nose shapes, and skin tones. (If I sounded rude, I apologize!)
@@SianaGearz You are right, it can happen but is unlikley. If you look to the predebut pictures of almost every idol they look so different. IU had a darker skin than now, Hyuna, BP members, I think Dahyun too. The majority of cosmetics that they have, have whitening chemicals , that's kinda weird too but is part of they beauty culture.
You talk about Southeast European, but I think is not the same as Asia, because you have more ethnic diversity than them.
@@minyoonjijj2325 "japan,China,Korea etc have a fair/white skin." I disagree. In Japan, if you go south, the people do not have a fair/white skin at all. (Japan is rather heterogenous for an East Asian country.) Same goes for China as soon as you leave the East coast. If you want to see real fair/white skin, come to Europe.
"she looks older" well she is now 27, not 16, obviously people grow, are they expecting grown women to look like a child?
She’s 27?? I thought she was in her mid 30s.. plastic surgery really ages some people.
@@th30dor49 kpop really brainwashed you all, people in their 30s don’t always look like IU( i meant like younger that her age bc she looks 20) (i love iu so don’t misunderstand me)
@@th30dor49 mid 30s isn't even old and not far off from 27 anyways
ok, but 30 is still young. you’re not supposed to even have wrinkles at that age… she did not look like how a natural 27-30 year old looks.
@@starbursting everyone grows differently
The only negative thing about plastic surgery is when people who did it deny it all the time (In GENERAL, *NOT* just Korea )
*Notes so there’s less misunderstandings*
Note 1: I mean it in a way where ppl try to promote fake beauty standards with things like “oh you just gotta be healthy to achieve this” when they actually did it with plastic surgery. For example some kardashians.
Note 2: you can be private about something without lying
Note 3: ps in general, not only in Korea or K-pop
I know that K-idols face backlash almost every day just for doing things every other human being does and that companies love forcing them to have ps and then force them to hide it so my comment is not directed to them. As I said before, they are hiding something without lying.
agree
Note: I didn't intend to write this much lol but the topic is very nuanced & I had a few points to share cause I analyze alot of the time lmao💀
I don't think it's a bad thing though. Not everyone who's had surgery wants the whole world to know nor do they need to tell it. It their own personal choice so whether someone talks about their surgery experience or not isn't the issue- it's people's reactions to it that is the problem. Yes people should be open about their surgeries but *only IF they want to* not because of demands of others pushing them to "admit" it. If they don't say so, it's their prerogative to do so & clearly a reason. Reasons you don't have the right to demand to know. Demanding any and every person who's had surgery is like asking them what their skin routine is; not everyone needs to know especially if that person themselves doesn't openly talk about it and is satisfied with the they have work done & it looks 1000% natural to their unique features. Did he/she have surgery or do they just have really great self-care habits or a dermatologist? Who knows?? but nobody let alone fans should care so much. In fact it's a compliment if someone assumes you had surgery sometimes because to put it simply alot of people's genetics are just that great that after phases of puberty and maturing and losing baby phat, even having healthier lifestyles than what's average, their features get sharper and more refined with age as they mature until they're much older.
It's okay if people don't want to disclose their surgeries if they don't want to. It's not promoting a false standard of beauty by any means it's just them keeping their private business and lives to themselves and that's okay. What is the problem is people's high expectations to live vicariously through these idols to feel good about themselves. Acceptance of the possibility that maybe people just quietly went through procedures and they just don't want to talk about it cause it not as a big deal for them should be common by now but because people want to relate to celebrities so much to the point where they purposely find insecurities that match theirs to say "see they're insecure about this or that too see they can relate to how I'm feeling about myself cause they want through it too" and keeping attachment to that mentality & expectation is why people feel so entitled to know who had surgery and who didn't still not understanding that at the end of the day it's none of the public's business. I think people who flat out hasn't had surgery or only minimal changes that still look natural don't need to talk about it because most of their changes are so subtle. Even if it is subtle though or isn't it's solely and ONLY that person's right to talk about their surgeries and if they don't doesn't mean they should be respected any less by no means.
If you consider a person exercising their right to not disclose their private matters as lying then there needs to be some reflection on whether or not you actually respect their boundaries & privacy. Not "this person lied about having surgery so I can't support them any more because they don't feed my entitlement to knowing allll their business & personal affairs". It's not your business to know unless the changes are so drastic to the point it's a concern. If that's not the case then it's not something you should feel entitled to have explained. They got surgery and live happily with their results so why is that not enough to just say ok and move forward?
@@angelonearthproductions1382 I didn’t mean it in a no privacy way, so check my new note hehe
@@angelonearthproductions1382 They don't have to tell us all their plastic surgeries that's not the problem, the problem is, if they do an interview or someone asks them and (how the Kardashians) deny it and say they're natural, when they're not, it's harmful for many girls and boys who see their content, if they don't want to admit that they had plastic surgery is better NOT TO ANSWER anything and stay quiet or change the subject. I don’t think is that difficult
1) they will get hate no matter what u say or say that it’s common. when people talk about beauty and the idols that admitted getting surgeries, most people’s first instinct is “oh A is prettier than B bc A is natural”
2) u guys say it creates unrealistic beauty standards but what exactly is unrealistic beauty standards? does being born naturally beautiful that’s very shocking = unrealistic? no it doesn’t
3) it will influence teenagers to have a mind set that “oh they got pretty after surgeries, i should get them too” which is basically encouraging ps but u guys re just picking sides
I see no problem with celebs (including idols) getting plastic surgery, but I think that they should be open about it. It’s nothing to be shamed for and young fans who don’t know their idols have gotten beauty procedures are trying to achieve unachievable bodies, which is not healthy
they should only be open if they feel comfortable taking abt it. at the end of the day, they owe us no explanation.
They do not owe fans that. They do not have to discuss what they have had done if they don't want to.
Or people should teach their kids and themselves self esteem and minding their own business then maybe people wouldn't feel as pressured into getting plastic surgery cause there wouldn't be an essay popping up about their looks every other week.
I hate the obsession with plastic surgery and fillers... It came to a point where surgically altered faces are now the new "Normal"... and normal girls and women like me only feel disgusted by themselves because we feel that we don't fit the standards of Instagram, Hollywood Kpop and the fashion industry!
And don't get me wrong... plastic surgery should have it's place within our modern society! A friend of mine for example had a really hard time with her very large breast... her brests very droopy and gave her so much back pain... she even had a hard time finding regular clothes... I was totally supportive of her getting a breast reduction surgery!
The problem is when completely perfected faces and bodies become the standard! That gives young people huge trouble with accepting themself... just like me
Exactly how I feel about it!!
I agree
tru bestie that’s how I feel too, it influenced my perception that I don’t fit in and that I meed surgery
@@ninadrangon Aww... I am sorry to hear that my dear... I am sending you a huge warm hug! We need to learn to love ourselves the way we are.
I agree! I feel like at this point with the technology and platforms we have it is easier to tell who has had surgery and what they did. This exposure, even if it is done with good intentions, I fear is only normalizing unrealistic and unattainable standards of beauty.
Now every celeb looks the same, no matter the race. A global beauty standard that takes features from all races and blends them into an appealing imagine, how is that not going to affect people negatively? Promoting literal unreal beauty standards.
There's no natural beauty anymore, it is not considered beautiful. It is instead talked about as features with "potential" that can be "improved".
It's really sad honestly. We have become very superficial.
i have mixed feeling about plastic surgery, i mean everyone should be allowed to do whatever they want to since it's their face and body. but i think it becomes problematic when underaged idols who aren't completely developed yet feel the need to get something done like wonyoung, yuna or yoon for example. it makes me sad how harsh the standards are that even teens are involved.
Did these idols you mentioned admitted they did plastic surgery?
@@myfingersarefingers9222 no, and they won’t admit that they have done plastic surgery because it would be controversial, but the changes are obvious, for example wonyoung got lip fillers, you can clearly see in her before and after photos, it’s not plastic surgery but the pressure to be “the beauty standard” it’s affecting young people.
I think it's SK society in general which has high pressure to be pretty. With rampant clinics around you, wouldn't you be enticed to go to one? Of course, the pressure is higher in the entertainment industry. Even in other countries, celebs have done procedures too.
Thing is, it is generally accepted to debut underaged idols in SK entertainment industry. When you put these young idols into a high pressure environment, they have no choice but to conform.
yoon? isnt she natural?
Karina definitely had plastic surgery no jaw is naturally that sharp and precise
Same with her nose and eyes
U think kpop idol never plastic sugery,lisa also get ps and many idol get ps
@@noname-st2br ik they do, I’m saying that she looks like she has it because all her proportions are perfect
I dont think Karina did PS tho. I am not aespa fans btw so I am not being biased.
I can't imagine the pain after wch surgery, it must have been very difficult for her.
personally, it’s okay to have any procedure cos it’s your body and it’s okay to be open about it.
it becomes somewhat of a problem for me when people deny it when they have unrealistic body standards that people will not be able to reach.
I’ve personally had a tiny bit done, evening out my double eyelids and honestly nobody has ever commented on it and I don’t really feel much different. It makes eye makeup quite a lot easier at least.
I think the issue is less with the act itself, and more to do with what drives a lot of people to do it, hide it or criticize it.
Also I can’t say thay this assumption is true, but I think pretty much everyone in the industry has at least a little bit done and that’s okay.
Yes it okay to have a ps but many of kpop fans there deny that their fav get ps while everyone knows that you can’t be a kpop idol until you touch something on their face
How much did it cost for you?
@@cammenprincessliang3434 I mean, it was nearly a decade ago so it’s probably no longer the same. It also depends on the place you did it. I went abroad to do it, bc 1. I’m East Asian so they understand my aesthetic better, 2. They have experience since its common there, 3. Cost.
I think it was around $1800, I got a reference to that specific specialist doctor from a family member who worked in the same hospital. It’s really minor as I just got one side evened out.
I’ve thought about doing something about my heavily hooded eyes for this exact reason
How was your healing process? Did you have any changes to the qualify of your vision?
@@princessjackson174 what are you talking about jeez there are many who have had nothing done.
A lot of people in the comments have said they have no issue with ps, but just wish that idols would be open about it. I agree with that however there's also sth else that bothers me. A lot of public figures (including idols) get ps just because they get a lot of negative comments and/or they feel really pressured by beauty standards, not because they really want ps, but basically because it seems like the only choice. Sometimes they look just fine before the surgery/procedure and worse after it when they overdo it. People really need to think more before making such changes to their faces and bodies, because while they can be corrected, you can never look exactly the same again (if you regret the procedures). I wish people would stop putting so much importance on visuals, especially with idols, who are expected to be perfect, but are humans as well.
its not true in all cases. take a look at sm groups for example aespa. i mean its clear they have done PS even before debuting so no one forced them through negative comments I think its more of a company thing that their idols should look appealing to the audience
@@mdorrdar3656 oh i didn’t mean to make it sound like i think all idols get surgery for the reasons i mentioned. i wrote “a lot of” so not everyone, maybe not even the majority, but a considerable number of idols. i was mostly thinking of the ones that get surgery long after debuting, i should have specified that. i also agree with what you said.
@@kejsik6374 oh yeah true . agree
@@mdorrdar3656 you know people get "negative" comments irl and not just online after their debut right? Also it's not weird for companies to suggest ps to future idols.
Chungha was one of the most beautiful people naturally and it’s sad to see it’s gone 🥺 But I hope she feels happy.
People are hypocrites. Neitzens demand idols to be honest about their procedures but if they will be they will call them “fake beauty” and then praise and show love to “natural beauty” idols more.
So true😔
I have a bigger issue with photoshop/filters to be honest.
These days companies use so much filters on them they stopped looking like humans (even in behind the scenes & such). The companies set the bar so high, not even their idols are pretty enough to go around without a filter.
There was also a case were fans had a negative reaction to a NCT photoshoot they did bareface (they all looked gorgeous, just yes humans have pores and little flaws) calling it ugly and saying the director was silly/disrespectful for making them do it. It's crazy to me that people would ask for artificial versions of their beloved idols but apparently they think it does look better. SK idea of beauty is really something else.
I was just watching a reel of mark using this filter he made faces like the emojis on ig and omg he looked so adorable bareface 😊
Let's be honest here idols using these filters by themselves a lot of times,fandoms love to blame the fansites for white washing the photos but when idols posting photos doing the exact same thing they don't say anything
The fact I was shocked when Taeyong (NCT) posted photos of his face without any filter on insta, you could see the texture of his skin perfectly well, says a lot when I myself don't use filters.... It's expected of idols to just have the perfect flawless baby skin as well as a porcelain tone.....
Honestly there is nothing wrong that idols are using filter.they post selfies with filter also.when general public can use filter then why not idol.I bet every person use filter for posting photos in instagram.even before kpop becoming big ,beauty cams were popular.
Good point!
All surgical procedures entail risks inside and outside the operation room, so if you're considering having one, PLEASE educate yourself first. Learn everything there is to know about the procedure, post-op, aftercare, etc. But always remember; "don't try to fix what is not broken".
I first saw Park Bom in Big Bang's We Belong Together and I find her beautiful. I was searching for her name thinking she's an actress. Turns out she is the one singing the chorus. I fell in love.
Brown Eyed Girls are insanely talented, loveable and creative. I'm just glad they are not being forgotten. Thank you for including them in your video hehe
I swear... I seen a lot of Korean models (not idols) on instagram, they are freaky obcessed with plastic surgery there. Some of the female models looks like anime plastic doll, its bizarre... those idols you named looks pretty natural.
Bruh, I really love how "old kpop make up style" looks on idols. These smoky-eyes and glossy lips are on top.
Honestly, I have more issue with photoshop, filters, excessive whitewashing, and everyone excepting that as standard. What a person decides to change on themselves is their prerogative, but the society asserting an unnatural and unnattainable standard even for celebrities to achieve is extremely problematic.
I thought GAIN was the only Brown Eyed Girls member that didn’t get plastic surgery cuz her mom told her NO ! After the company pressured her. There’s an interview about it.
The thing that disturb me so much is the denial of the fans itself. I know some of my idol have ps but I don't really care (if you into Kpop for a long time you can notice a ps trace on idol face (?)). But their fans will say like the idol is just lose weight or they just have heavy make up (no sis no...make up can't change the shape of idol's nose)
Makeup can literally change the shape of your nose tho...
@@uui219 yeah but not that drastic (I won't say the idol's name cause ppl will say I drag them down)
I just laugh at those kpop fans.. like it’s SO OBVIOUS and they still deny it with their heart 😭 Keep believing in a lie I guess
@@uui219 can't change the way it turns upward or downward tho
Yes the girl in the vid say that BTS did it
Also she didin t know that
Bts write a whole song for diss people who did the surgery
21 centuary girl + love yourself act
"Don t low ur value and change your face for people " BTS (21 centuary girl)
Plastic surgery is an industry that profits from people's insecurity and normalizing it will lead to serious body and face image issue, but on the contrary we shouldn't also hate people who did it since they are also victims of it somehow especially idols who are pressured to look perfect.
YEP
The most underrated comment in this thread.
Cosmetic surgery started as a way to help people suffering from physical disfigurements such as burns and blast injuries. Now it's a cynical, very lucrative industry that exploits insecurities relating to "imperfection". The more that popular entertainers can be persuaded that their looks "aren't good enough", the more fans can be exploited to copy their idols
Practically all of the surgeons are men. They are ultimately the arbiters of what women (in particular) should look like, not the paying client.
And the reason we have this is because of a long history of image manipulation in the fashion industry, giving vulnerable people totally unreasonable and unrealistic expectations. Ignorant people blame Photoshop, which is a just a complicated and powerful tool for processing digital images (that I've been using for the last 25+ years). The real villains have been the image manipulators in the fashion industry - real people who want to sell an idea of beauty that is unachievable without surgical intervention.
What gets talked about very little is:
1. All surgical procedures carry risks. The risks from many cosmetic surgery procedures aren't minor. And when it goes wrong it is never reversible or properly recoverable.
2. Cosmetic surgery for many is like a drug. One procedure leads to another, and another, and another... because "perfection" is actually unattainable.
3. Surgically altered faces tend to age very badly, necessitating a lifetime of expensive surgical interventions in a losing race to pretend to look "natural". You just end up looking more and more obviously artificial.
4. Cosmetic surgery is rarely the remedy for insecurity problems. It can and does lead to even more insecurity problems. A psychologist is a much better investment, and much cheaper... but obviously not as visible or fashionable.
5. The point of the cosmetic surgery industry in fashion and entertainment is to create dependency and addiction. It's a totally unscrupulous and exploitative industry.
I feel like youtubers exposing plastic surgery is good because it shows people, especially kids and teens, that most celebrities have gotten work done, and that you shouldn’t feel bad about yourself for not looking like them… and also that plastic surgery isn’t a bad thing and beauty is attainable… you just have to be careful because there is always the risk of something bad happening and it being botched
Park Bom was pretty before surgery. Everyone in the Korean entertainment all undegone surgery bec the beauty standard is just crazy high, ridiculous and addicted fans seem to have opinions about everyone. It's either their choice or the company. Prop to those admit it. There is nothing wrong with plastic surgery, but when it is so obvious yet they denied and blame on weight gain or loss, camera angles or even make up 🤷♀️
Akmu Suhyun hasn't heard anything done yet, at least nothing major. I hope she doesn't succumb.
Bom has medical reason tooo
Park Bom doesn't have a stong personality like Jessy for example. I think she is just afraid of getting more hate if she says that she has done plastic surgery, and she probalby did it because of low self esteem and the people that call her bad things. She is so cute and so talented, she deserves love and no hate.
@@gremmmlinn If I told you Jessi doesn't even have a strong personality like she potrays onscreen. Stop assuming things because of their personas on screen.
Personally I think there's wont be any denying or statement about ps IF NO ONE poke their fingers on the "difference" of the visual first, and then talk sh*t to the person in concern because of the ps. So I think both party at fault here.
I'm usually neutral about plastic surgery, except when idols deny having it done. As much as I would love to think that it's their life and their business, I can't help but recognize that it's also what is influencing a lot of kids and teenagers, and failing to speak about it could potentially cause damage to the ones looking up to them.
I also feel the same way about the extreme diets they have. Even though I know it's horrible, when you have teens comparing themselves to a person that is eating an apple a day and has gone under the knife multiple times, it's obvious that it will cause some sort of damage, because it's not clear from the get go what the idols have done to look the way they look, and they end up comparing their natural selves to something that the idols themselves couldn't attain without all of that.
100% agree!!
completely agree, with the diet issue overall. They often actually tell what diets they did and I think it's not great AT ALL, they know they have an huge influence on people so for some issues they must be really careful for how they talk
Yea but don't blame the idols about it because for the most part it's their companies that tell them not to say anything, besides it's not the idols job to monitor insecure kids it's the parents.
@@armyofthedead5443 I agree for the most part, but if it wasn't for idols that force the standards like talking about ps or being openly in a relationship like Hyuna and Dawn, the feelings around these things will never change either. I think that the first idols who speak up may face backlash from their companies (and I say may because Jessi for example is very open about all her ps and never had an issue I THINK), but once everyone starts talking about it more openly I don't think it will be an issue anymore. And regarding the parents comment, I agree with you on that, but we can't disregard the power that comes with being a public figure and I believe they should be held accountable as well. If they can talk about eating ice or an apple for a week like they have done and know the impact that it could have on people, they can surely say what they had done. I agree that at the end of the day it's the parents' who should be checking on their kids, but I don't think transparency on this matters would hurt either.
@@twomoons0606 yea the only issue I have is when they deny having any plastic surgeries because in my opinion they shouldn't be ashamed of that not the idea that they had plastic surgeries but also don't forget it's usually the companies that demand plastic surgeries and force idols to go on strict diets especially when idols are still minors and have no powers to say no to their company and also don't forget hiw judgmental the people are towards idols, they say idols push unrealistic beauty standards but look how much some idols get bullied for not fitting the "idol" look so no wonder they starve themselves and pursue plastic surgeries. After all I blame the companies about this and the people more.
I’m glad that some idols have been comfortable with opening up about cosmetic surgery but I feel the gp need to learn some boundaries as well especially when they body shame idols for doing so.
Park Bom is an amazing human 💙✨
As a blackjack I loved Park bom how she looked 2009 year after the mistake of her decision I was terrified
It’s the denial that is a problem for me. Do whatever you want with your face and body, it’s really none of my business. But as a public figure I think you have to be open about these things because you influence so many people.
Bom’s story is sad bc she debuted a song w lee hyori and was natural and she was HATED on. That affected her as well as yg calling 2NE1 ugly etc.
The most heartbreaking thing about this topic is minors feeling like they cannot succeed without it and the viewers getting used to these altered standards and more pressure on younger people
Where the heck did naeun get surgery??? Like how?? She look the same! She looks older? SHE IS OLDER. Smh
if its well done they will PRAISE YOU (winter,karina) IF it is not
they will drag u down....(park bom )
Namjoo’s was sooo sad... she was beautiful and adorable before and after her nose was completely BOTCHED it looked so bad and even she knew it
her plastic surgeon did her dirty
I think it was just bloated.. Now her face is already normal and she looked good.
Yeah …. Even naeun was better before, she looks older. But since she’s an actress now, maybe this looks will help her ?
they did a really good job on aespa though! if you havent seen their predebut photos its not even noticeable that they had ps
I honestly love chungha's both looks. She still has a certain charm in her fearures. I feel like plastic surgery becomes a problem for me when people lose their very distinctive features and of course when they deny it
sm ent have the best surgeon's i swear!
Jedsi went through so much and was FORCED to undergo surgery and she didnt even go out after a while and didnt want to contact her parents because she hated herself so much. Im so proud of her confidence now❤️
park jimin literally looks exactly the same as his childhood pictures
It’s not bad , it’s just promotes certain unattainable goals for young girls and boys when it’s completely denied by the person in question
Son Naeun didn't have to change anything I fell in love with her when I saw her in Cinderella and the Four Knights. Her cheeks were so cute🥺💖😭😭
people can get plastic surgery if they want, they just shouldn’t outright deny it because of the unrealistic and harmful beauty standards it can create. though, keep in mind that people age and when they age, they change. especially during puberty, the body and face can change extremely. at the end of the day, we don’t know these idols and as long that they’re happy, it’s not our business.
The fact that they’re all looked beautiful even before the ps
Park Bom is my favorite singer in the whole world. The problem with her is that she just doesn't want to disappoint anyone. Thousands of people will tell her she's beautiful, and one tells her she's not, and that's the one that matters. it's sad 😪
To each their own. Their body, their choice. I feel for Park Bom. Watching her on Coachella few nights ago, I noticed her face looks hella swollen. Whatever she’s going through whether it’s surgery or not, swollen lymph nodes or not, medications or not… as long as she’s accepting of her changes.
I just want all these idols and such to just take really good care of themselves cause if you don’t have your health, then you’re pretty much screwed.
Poor Park Bom, really, I'm sure she does have a host of issues due to water retention and medications that cause her appearance to wildly fluctuate. I'm sure she's had plastic surgery but I wouldn't be surprised if heavy makeup and prosthetics were causing some to assume it is the result of going under the knife.
For a lot of idols plastic surgery is something that is a kind of last step towards looking how they want to look. More idols than we even imagine have plastic surgery but it's not enough for most people to notice.
One idol I like got their cheekbones lifted a bit and it looks natural because their cheeks and jawline were already slimming down as puberty was ending. Their cheekbones would have been a bit more blocky but now they're perfectly round and that small change made their eyes pop more. I honestly don't care but I was just shook that they looked so different between eras. They have never spoken about it and I don't expect them to because they know that their fans have eyes and can see that something is different. 😂 No, I won't name the idol here or respond to guesses.
Im an ELF and thus far i like that every member that has done procedures has been open about it.
The only reason that i dont agree with plastic surgery is because is based on ideals or beauty standars that otherwise wouldnt exist if someone didnt invented them. Is sad to think that we are doing it based on standars that someone created. But the social pressure is strong so is mindset that we cant get rid of that easily.
At the end if anyone is going to have a procedure is nice that they actually admit, or keep it private but dont blatanly deny it. The worst is when they deny it and then list a bunch of things they did to achieve it when in reality it was a procedure. Many young people follows this celebrities and they can easily get fooled by this claims and feel bad with their own bodies because they dont look like the people they look up on. on other aspects is insulting that they deny it when is so obvious, they do think that the fans are so stupid or fool to not realize it.
Heechul was always beautiful tho
I don't trust a lot of idols with looks bc South Korea is known for plastic surgery and most idols probably got it so I can't tell who is natural anymore. It's either Korean people have naturally nice noses or they get it done. Plastic surgery is fine but denying it is not good.
ttelling them to have “less surgery” then criticizes them when their pre-debut pics of them come out or revealed💀
People will tease or bully you for not having ideal features but will also criticize you when you get something done. I usually see the older generation do this to young people. It’s about time to break this stigma and mind our own business.
If idols did or did not have plastic surgery we should still love and respect them
Honestly who wouldn’t get a PS if you had the money? I’d definitely will..
I think the most important thing is to stand behind your choices confidential. People are gonna talk anyways out of hatred or envy..
I once watched a UA-cam video about an ex trainee and about her experience... She wouldn't say what company she was in but she said she had to get ps inorder to debute. I don't disagree with ps but I do disagree with forcing them to choose to do it and debut or quit/get cut. There needs to be done kind of communication. I agree with telling the truth yes I did get it. We shouldn't hate on idols who get it done. That may leads to more emotional issues. These idols are beautiful.
I think the world goes crazy about lip fillers like, chill
Many celebrities have done some plastic surgery but I think some fans undertimate how much some people's faces change with weight lose and gain. Sure, it's hard to notice when is someone you see often because the change would be gradual but if it's after some months or a very fast change the difference can be huge.
0:37 Naeun one is actually sad... She used to be so charming looking!! Also, monolids are so attractive to me. My biases Hyunjin, Seulgi, and Yeji!
I love Seulgi, Yeji & Hyunjin too!
Yeji doesn’t even have monolids lmao
@@btstrasharmyexo-lbaekiesha2776 Really? It looks quite like that to me though. (btw your profile pic is a 10/10)
Agree with you, naeun didn't have to do it but it's her choice and i think she feels more comfortable and confident with her look now
It's not really on us to decide whether or not the idols can do plastic surgery as long as they're happy I respect that. For some idols you can't actually notice the procedures that they did to their appearance although it is kinda bad to deny they did get plastic surgery but there's nothing we can do about it but to accept them for who they are not just cuz of their appearance.
I think celebrities should be open about what they’ve gotten done while also discouraging their fans from getting things done
Plastic surgery isn’t a bad thing whatsoever but there’s a moment when it starts to look botched…
plastic surgery isn’t a bad thing at all and no one should feel ashamed for getting it. however, when one denies that they’ve had any procedures done, that’s when it becomes a problem.
why is it not a bad thing at all?
Nothing wrong with beauty features..in fact, talking about and admitting it should be more normalized. Not doing so is damaging to people.. setting that mostly unrealistic beauty standards.
God some of these girls are natural beauties... and I personally feel like many of them ruin it.
Whether it be lips plumped, a "little" nose work... it changes too much of the overall look.
You can't change one thing on a face without changing the overall entire look. Some people's "pieces" fit together beautifully as they are... i stress this so much to women - if you change one thing, it could possibly ruin the whole masterpiece.
I wish more surgeons would pay more attention and respect to the balance of shapes of faces, of what would fit on certain faces vs others, etc. Not every girl is going to look incredible with plumped lips or a "perfected nose". Their cheekbones, their natural cheek fat, the width & length of the forehead... these things must BALANCE eachother and ENHANCE eachother from EVERY angle... not just "oh let's put the so-called perfect nose on this face." That face may not hold societies definition of the perfect nose well at all. If you must edit it, edit it in proportion with everything else on the face.
I'm a portrait artist that might be why I feel this way.
i honestly don't care if people in general (celebrities or not) undergoes plastic surgery. their money, their body, i couldn't care less. also, i don't care whether they wanna hide it or be open about it. but, the most important thing is i don't think people should do ps because of others' opinions. if you wanna do it, make sure that decision comes from yourself. not because other people think you will look better with this kind of nose or that kind of butt etc etc. Jessi herself said that she regretted the surgery she did because her company wanted her to do it
wow bom looked so so beautiful !
f(x) is the only SM female girl group that I know has all natural beauties until today (don't know about S.E.S. and The Grace members)
Also, Chungha is very beautiful before her surgeries, also Park Bom.
I agree. After so many years, even after disbandment, i still think f(x) are all natural beauty. Everyone has their individuality and unique charm.
f(x) hasn't disbanded. Members have confirmed it. They are in a very long hiatus 😢
Chungha is beautiful in any case and also did one surgery, which is only filler .!
Lol how do you know f(x) never did plastic surgery? Did they tell you they’re haven’t do surgery?? 😂🤣
@@Iza580 we dont need them to us. Nothing can get pass human eyes of kpop fans especially if you’re into kpop for more than a decade.
Loved this documentary TULBUNGLEES pls make more vids like this
It’s ok to look not so beautiful or so perfect. It’s rare to to find plastic faces that don’t look plastic.
Well I would say before puberty my face was so good face angle was good but when I got in to puberty my face just got disfigured specially the jaw line it got so much broader. Most of the time it doesn't gives feminine look to my face 😐 I'm really stressed about it
I dont care at all, as long as everything is the person's own choice, and not based off of what the company or fans say. As long as it is what they want. And I would prefer if they didn't hide it or say they didn't have anything done. They don't owe us to tell us everything about them. But letting people know that it wasn't achieved naturally is kind of important.
I can never form a judgement about whether an idol did plastic surgery or just hit puberty real hard. Because lol I look nothing like how I used to as a kid. My looks changed the more weight I lost and the different hairstyles I used. My friends do see a similarity in high school me and 24 year old me but before high school is a complete different me.
It's already known that A LOT of people get plastic surgery. I don't see the sense in ppl who get it done, then deny it like it's something to be ashamed of. When you lie about getting work done, you're perpetuating the stigma.
I have no issue if it's their own choice and they love themselves like that. My issue is with lying and denying obvious plastic surgury. That's why I like JooE, she was very real about it and also BEC, good for them, they seem to like how they look and have been open about it. I want to see more from that.
But why are people forced to be honest about sugery? They owe us nothing
@@CanopusLux they are influecers, trendsetters, they know how much power they have over their fans. It's the bare minimum to be sincere to their fans about things that affect them so much
Lisa looks like a different person
Definitely she’s do surgery on her whole face 😂
and even IF idols consider PS why judging them, its THEIR CHOICE and only THEY have to LIKE IT. Sometimes people also gaining/loosing weight wich changes your jawline and shape of face drastically(I was really chubby and had a natural double chin but was always slick enough to hide my problem-zones w/clothing so much that no-one noticed, after I lost much weight my jawline became really clear/sharp and my face shape looks way more defined now)
netizens always tells idols to not do ps but when idols doesn't fit the beauty standards they hate on them
Why is this even a thing? I mean, even artist from my poor country have plastic surgery to look better, to look like celebrities, of course Kpop idols, living and working in the country of THE plastic surgeries... I mean, why are we so obsessed with the fact that celebrities have to be incredibly beautiful 24/7? Why we want them to be perfect? It is ok to accept that you make some improvements and we should leave them alone, of course they are going to deny it! They are constantly judged....
Naeun and Namjoo look so perfectly fine right now. They might have been changes in the past ( I mean every kpop idol does ) I just don't know why they are paying too much attention and criticize the idol. It hurts their feelings too.
I just feel bad that these people feel they need it... when most of them are absolutely beautiful
I appreciate informative channels that used their real voice instead of the robotic ones.
Let my Namjoo live in peace please
She is so pretty
Stop criticizing
I literally adore all the idols in this list and I think their changes were unnecessary but the hate they got for their appearance before the PS was insane.
I mostly feel a bit sad for Namjoo. Don't get me wrong she is my bias for a long time, I wasn't sad at the fact that she wanted to go under the knife but the doctor she went to made her dirty and now she is insecure because of the haters.
She's prettier before the surgery even Naeun. They just ruin their faces
@@eniddeltacross4410 people like you are the ones who make them insure. Did you get any reward by saying this?
@@grappling-wd7ic its the truth though. you can't deny that they both look better before they got the surgery. its sad that they thought they needed that.
When everyone normalize ps and then people get insecure about their real face then everyone wanna try to do ps. Think about the consequence too please before do it.
I'm against it so much bcs it is not normal to change our face when our face don't have any problem.
I've learned that if someone's looks makes you wonder if they had plastic surgery, they most likely had plastic surgery
I don’t see any change in the mentioned EXO members , they look the same , they probably look different because of the weight losing, matured face , make up and hairstyles, otherwise I don’t see PS here , it’s just my opinion :)
Denying you had ps when it's pretty obvious and associating it with weight loss makeup is what's damaging if the young ppl seeying them knew they weren't natural and all you need was money to achieve the look depression, body image and eating disorders wouldn't be as prevalent
THANK YOU... They most certainly play a role.
Lol even if they said the truth you think netizens will welcome them with a warm hug? They instead will recieve criticism for doing ps and even If they dont they recieve it. So the problem is not about whether it is true or not problem are the people.
I am one who supports surgery and think if you want it, no one should stop you. I would love to get some myself but I absolutely some of these are just the case of getting more attractive over time. I look back at photos of my in middle school/ high school vs now at 24 and I AM COMPLETELY different person good god. Learning what styles suit you, losing weight, what makeup suits you, hair, etc you can change your appearance so much
I have no problem with anyone doing plastic surgery. Like I would love to do my lips since I’m not so confident with them. But the problem is that a lot of idols say that they didn’t had plastic surgery although they did and let people think that they looks are all natural which they aren’t. If they would be able to just openly talk about and say that they did something it would be fine but they let people believe that they were born with perfect features which is not true
99% of celebrities, even just online influencers, have procedures. Why even bother to lie about it 🙄
Take Jessi for example. She's so upfront about it that it's not a weakness that others can use against her. That's definitely much better than denying the obvious
Where are you getting the 99%? Sounds like a made up statistic.
Hyolin too, I like that she's upfront about it
@@uui219 of course it's a made up one, but that's realistic to assume near all of them have done stuff.
Who whose career is linked to their looks, and have the money to afford cosmetic procedures wouldn't be tempted to do it?
@@uui219 it's made up of course. But I know people who are barely even considered to be part of the entertainment industry. Older generation and younger generation. They all have some procedures done.
My respect for Brown Eyed Girls and Jessi📈
Plastic surgery is okay if it helps your self-esteem BUT never ever ever deny it. This is the problem I have with idols or celebs denying plastic surgery.
I’m not too fussed by it, I find in SK they make it looks more natural. Yeah, a straight v jaw and nose may not be entirely natural, but it’s not as obvious? In comparison to in the UK (where I’m from), where it is obvious straight away if someone has had surgery. If that makes sense.