Im a 43 year old man from Pittsburgh. So I was born in 81. I've watched the Penguins go to 6 Stanley cup finals and win 5 of them. They have had 3 of the top 10 best players in the history of hockey. The Steelers went to 4 Superbowls and won 2 of them. They have had more Hall of Famers than I can count off the top of my head in my lifetime. The Pirates.... man have they fuckin sucked. I remember those early 90s teams and the meltdown. The best thing that happened to the Pirates since then is when Cueto dropped the ball. The owner is a fuckin disgrace and I wonder and doubt if I will ever see them win a playoff game, let alone the World series before I die.
Such a shame considering the great team they had for the whole 60s and 70s. They had a great team in the early 90's. Bonds, Bonilla, Van Slyke, Drabek, Bell, Merced, and the criminally underrated Don Slaught
I'm a HUGE Braves fan of 49 yrs and I'd gladly give anything for the Falcons to win a Superbowl and the Hawks an NBA CHAMPIONSHIP. You're so lucky to have other relevant teams in your city. I'd trade you my teams for yours in a heartbeat.
Funny how pittsburgh can compete in the sports with a salary cap where they don't have to operate as a farm team for the big cities. THis is why baseball is trash.
@@planepirate When you have the lowest, or close to it, year after year you will never keep star players or actually win. Look at Skenes. He'll probably get paid more per season than the entire Pirates roster this season when he hits the end of his contract.
19:58 Pirates? worst owner? you can't be serious how bout the old man in Chicago who has one one championship in 44 seasons the Pirates aren't going to lose over 120 games this season
I've been a Pirate's fan for so long that my older brother and I used to stand outside Forbes Field with a transistor radio during games as little kids, and one usher who was our friend's dad used to let us in the outfield bleacher gate for free at the 7th inning stretch if it wasn't a sell out, and we would yell stuff down to Clemente. So I've been a fan through the good and bad. By far the most catastrophic thing that ever happened to the Pirates is Bob Nutting. The cheapest,. least involved or interested owner in all of professional sports. He has made the Pirates nothing more than a farm team for everyone else willing to invest some money into player for their teams, The man is a disgrace. we have the most beautiful field in the majors, and fans like me that still love the team. The only salvation I can see for this team is a new owner, hopefully Pittsburgh native Mark Cuban could buy the team and actually pay players to stay. Paul Skenes will be the next to go in a couple years under Nutting.
I hated Pittsburgh for beating the Orioles in 1979 after the Orioles had taken a 3-1 series lead, but man, I really felt for them after Game 7 of that 1992 NLCS. The team was already breaking up with the departure of Bobby Bonilla the previous offseason to free agency and the preseason trade of John Smiley to Minnesota. And after that game, with the imminent departures of cornerstones like Bonds and Drabek, you knew their best chance at making the World Series had come and gone.
Cincinnati and Pittsburgh were/are one of the best rivalries in sports. Unfortunately, both have sucked at baseball for 30 years, and the Bengals sucked at football before Joey B.
The greatest World Series was 1960. The Yankees were a great team. They actually broke World Series scoring records against the Pirate. The game the Pirate won were only by a few runs. The Pirate started the Series by losing the first two games, but coming back in game 3. The series went to the 7th game. The score was tied and went into extra innings. In the 10th inning, Bill Mazeroski hit a home run to win the World Series. Pittsburgh went crazy. The fans left Forbes Field in the Oakland section of Pittsburgh and walked downtown to celebrate all night. It was the greatest World Series, especially beating the Yankees.
@@dicky7600 Well, the Yankees can't win every World Series. The 1961 Yankees were voted the Best Yankees Team ever, the 1960 team and the 1961 team were the same.
68 yrs old. Born and raised in Pittsburgh. I have watched the Pirates go from maybe not always great,but at least good and always competitive. The last 20 yrs they have been a laughing stock and a pipeline to better teams for any decent players they get. The owners suck and are to cheap to field a winner.😢
That wild card game was a hell of a night, I will cherish that memory for the rest of my days. I can still hear the quato chants like I'm there. But a wild card win doesn't count as a winning season. it's the same thing as a participation trophy. So, it's been longer than 20 years.
Nate Sexauer made a great 2 part video series about the Pirates during the 20 year losing streak. It's called "Come See Us Play". It's long but definitely worth a watch.
Nah we remember. Only memeber of 400 /400 club. But besides a since a newspaper write up, it got no attention. A first ever career mlb achievement, ignored. Bonds made sure they didn't ignore his next achievements
Even though Cabrera only played 17 games that year, his skill set actually matched up well against Belinda. There's some ESPN program about the Braves highlighting that.
I was a Huge Andy Van Slyke fan. I still carry his baseball card in my wallet today. I remember game 7 and the image of him out in center field slumped over in your thumbnail is forever etched in my memory. I remember it off and on every year at some point for some reason. It is very hard to be a Pirates fan honestly. The city really deserves a better owner for the team. I'll die in Pittsburgh before ever seeing a World Series here I think.
I met Andy on numerous occasions his nephews went to school with me and his dad was a principal and judge in our town in New Hartford, NY. He was a fantastic defensive outfielder before Griffey Jr probably the best in baseball for a time. He had injuries after 1994 that ended his career but he was a great player, best my hometown has ever seen
@@peterrukavena4955 i cried watching him break his collarbone in Wrigley. He was never the same after. Thankfully I also have a vivid memory of his diving catch in left field at an ASG to offset this dejection.
@@foxmolnar6258 Yes I remember in June of 1993, he seemed to recover as he made it back that year in September and played really well. However he got hurt again in early 1994 and that was it, he played 1995 in Baltimore and Philly and he was done
Ran across this here while knowing yesterday was the 32 year anniversary of the Sid Slide(October 14, 1992) and as a Braves fan I must thank you Barry Bonds. I must thank you for never stopping being a prick and always letting your giant ego stand in your way of achieving anything other than individual accolades. No rings for Barry!!!!!!!!!
I hate to break it to you, but Atlanta is over 4 degrees of latitude farther west than Pittsburgh. In fact, Atlanta is farther west than almost the entire state of Ohio (a state which is completely to the west of Pittsburgh).
The only thing worse than 108 years of no World Series wins-it’s 20 losing seasons in a row. The World Series is the hardest set of MLB games to even make it to much less win. Having a winning season is not as hard and MLB teams should be able to do it once in awhile.
17:08 Umm, yeah, Adam LaRoche compared trading guys to fellow soldiers getting killed in a war. Meanwhile Jack Wilson created a Nate McLouth shrine. They weren’t traded for nothing, and really maybe if both of those guys lived up to the hype, they along with other players never would have been traded.
The 1986 Boston Red Sox also rallied from a 3 games to 1 deficit to defeat the then California Angels in the ALCS one year after the Kansas City Royals did the same to the Toronto Blue Jays. The 1992 Pirates made the playoffs after losing Bobby Bonilla and John Smiley following the prior season. I believe the present day Pirates can be competitive if they keep their young core together for a longer period of time, especially Paul Skenes.
Good catch. That was the famous "one strike away" homerun by Dave Henderson off Donnie Moore in Game 5 of the 1986 ALCS. I also believe that the 1985 Royals were the first team to rally from 3-1 in both the LCS and the Series. They were also the first team to win the Series after losing the first two at home. The Mets would replicate that feat the following year against the Red Sox.
I remember needing to take about a four hour walk in the middle of the night after this game, it hurt so much. Chico Lind making an error he never made started the sense of dread. But all Belinda had to do was step off the mound; Bream had a gigantic lead and would have been easily caught. Good thing to mention the selective strike zones of the umps in that series though.
I feel Pittsburgh's pain, aside from 1971 and my 1979, the latter involving my Orioles historic face plant. We have not had a title since Cal caught Maddux's line drive in 1983....
Can't remember what exact year it was but they acquired Reggie sanders and Kenny lofton.theses new players balled out what should have been a playoff run ended in disaster as the null pen lost 52 games down the stretch.just another losing season and left n and sanders moved on.
player one: 139 OPS+ 6.4 WAR player two: 160 OPS+ 7.3 WAR Which player deserves the MVP in 1991? One of the most egregious MVP votes of all time. Sportswriters couldn't keep their egos in check, and wanted to punish Barry Bonds for giving them attitude. Sad and borderline criminally negligent.
Maybe. But he also lost that pennant by going for a meaningless complete game for Drabek, and by not bringing in his closer until the bases are loaded.
@@FerdinandCesaranoIt worse the night before, letting Tim Wakefield go the distance and not pull him in order to have him ready for game 7 just in case.
This along with "America's Team" not having been in ONE "Final Four" (NFC Championship Game) in nearly 30 years has got to be the most embarrassing playoff droughts at least in fairly recent memory. Oh yeah, the Mariners are still the only MLB team to never appeared in a World Series.
Isn't that over 30 years??? The last few years, they have not been CLOSE to being a Playoff team. Add insult to injury, Bonilla and Leyland would celebrate a World Series Victory...in Florida.
Did Drabek pitch all the way through 8 innings? I think so. Unheard of now, but then letting a pitcher try a complete game was at least plausible. Didn't Jack Morris go 10 or even eleven innings to secure a World Series for the Twins? Especially after losing in the NLCS the previous 2 years, i would have let Drabek pitch until 2 men got on base or something like that.
Jack Morris went 10 innings. Tom Kelly went out to pull him from the game and Morris talked him out of it. Tom Kelly basically told him it’s just a game, go get them.
Nah, Leyland was a great manager, but he punted this one. It was pretty obvious that Drabek was running on fumes in the 8th inning. I know you want to give your star pitcher the chance to finish off his shutout, but he had nothing left, and Leyland would have been better off bringing Belinda in to start the 9th. The other thing that ticked me off was that once he did bring Belinda in, he wasn't sharp. Yes, you want to leave the game in the hands of your closer, but this was Game 7...you do what you gotta do. Leyland had both Bob Walk and Tim Wakefield ready in the pen and never went to them. Still, if the usual slick-fielding Chico Lind doesn't boot that double play ball, Drabek finished the game and Leyland looks like a genius. Meanwhile, Sid Bream continued to live in the Pittsburgh area for a long time after...in fact, he may still live around here, I don't know. I have run into him a couple times, and he is really one of the nicest people you'd ever want to meet.
The Sid Bream play had nothing to do with the Pirates stinking out the joint for 20 years after that. It had more to do with a) The team being in one of the smaller markets, and b) Having ownership use that as an excuse for running the club on the cheap....first Carl Barger and his ownership group, then Kevin McClatchy, and now the absolute worst of the bunch, the Cheapskate Hillbilly Prince Bob Nutting.
The whole 9th inning of the 92 NLCS game 7 was one bad thing after another. Cabrera’s hit was the only hard hit of the inning. Pendleton’s double to Lead off should have been caught by Cecil Espy. If the 92 pirates win the WS, Pittsburgh could have been a destination
Wait. Braves and Marlins? The most heated rivalry...? In sports ...? Is the voice serious? Gotta be a joke. That's no joke that Bonds flipped off teammate 😆 Andy Van Slyke who had the nerve to suggest Barry move in (You can't tell Bonds what to do !) and then the base hit right to Bonds who can't throw out Sid Bream because Bonds was playing too deep? Classic Bonds ego. He is more important than the game Fast forward and he is a "juicer' cuz he must be the HR king. Best team? Nah. HR king? You bet.
I was raised in the Pittsburgh area, but prefer the Yankees, they have the history and 27 world series and plenty more pennants and championship and playoff runs. The Pirates have been garbage for years and I don't see them getting any better any time soon, and the Steelers aren't too much better nor the Pens.
The Pirates Marketing Department is probably working on a big "FIFTY YEARS SINCE WE WERE LAST IN A WORLD SERIES!!!" celebration for 2029. I see zero chance of them being in one between now and then. Heck, I see a zero chance of them finishing a season above .500 in the next five years.
Imagine what could have been if Barry bonds had actually tried hard to win baseball games instead of grotesquely inflating his skull with anabolic steroids
I remember feeling disgusted as a NYY fan that season, the worst record they've had in my lifetime. But I wrote because the icing on the cake was watching the Reds and Pirates playing in the NLCS led by Jose Rijo and Doug Drabek, two pitchers who the Yankees traded in the worst of the George days. Worked out by the id 90's but damn that was awful to watch.
from 2010-2013 the astros lost 100 games each year...the owner got serious, changed the team from top to bottom, they got the astros from the national league to the american league and made them leave spring training from florida to arizona. the astros have not not made the playoffs since.... pirates need to do the same thing....just go radical...look what the tigers did in 2024...55-63 and they just took off to the playoffs...cant nutting see that?....the Pirates in the playoffs would be so great for baseball and the city of pittsburgh.....anyone want to loan me 6 billion dollars? i'll buy the team and make it a winner...
I can tell you one thing the owners cheap and doesn't want to spend a lot of his money to make him a contender the real problem in Pittsburgh is the owner
Barry is the GOAT, but also the reason behind the curse. The Pirates apparently were unwilling to give Barry Bonds a 5 year/$5 million per year extension. Even in 1992 dollars, whole that would have set a record, it wouldn't have been anything WAY out of range for his contribution to the team. Particularly with the way contacts have expanded since then. It was also nowhere near what bonds ended up making at free agency!
The problem for the Pittsburgh pirates is the owner not being able to sign franchise player's to long term contracts and the luxury tax... Because they are low market they don't have the money to keep they're super stars ... Pittsburgh is a football town not a baseball town.... That's why they haven't won anything since 1979!!!
Im a 43 year old man from Pittsburgh. So I was born in 81. I've watched the Penguins go to 6 Stanley cup finals and win 5 of them. They have had 3 of the top 10 best players in the history of hockey.
The Steelers went to 4 Superbowls and won 2 of them. They have had more Hall of Famers than I can count off the top of my head in my lifetime.
The Pirates.... man have they fuckin sucked. I remember those early 90s teams and the meltdown. The best thing that happened to the Pirates since then is when Cueto dropped the ball. The owner is a fuckin disgrace and I wonder and doubt if I will ever see them win a playoff game, let alone the World series before I die.
Such a shame considering the great team they had for the whole 60s and 70s. They had a great team in the early 90's. Bonds, Bonilla, Van Slyke, Drabek, Bell, Merced, and the criminally underrated Don Slaught
I'm a HUGE Braves fan of 49 yrs and I'd gladly give anything for the Falcons to win a Superbowl and the Hawks an NBA CHAMPIONSHIP. You're so lucky to have other relevant teams in your city. I'd trade you my teams for yours in a heartbeat.
Lol crying over 7 world championships in your lifetime. Be grateful.
Funny how pittsburgh can compete in the sports with a salary cap where they don't have to operate as a farm team for the big cities. THis is why baseball is trash.
I'm 29 and the only thing separating you and me is that you saw the early 90's. Other than that, it's been the same
NL Central was stacked in 2015: 100-win Cardinals, 98-win Pirates, 97-win Cubs; the top 3 records in the entire MLB that year.
And none of them won the World Series. Congratulations 👏🏽
@@sanchezjr13 ok? that has nothing to do with what I said.
2015 was all Kansas City Royals
Didn’t the N.L. East Division Mets win the Pennant that year?
Who knocked out the Division Champion Cardinals in 2015?
@@Jiltedin2007idk why don’t you check, you seem unsure.
R.I.P.: Tim Wakefield
He was very valuable playing a key part in the Red Sox World Series Championships of 2004 and 2007.
hell of a guy too
I still can't believe he's no longer with us
@@stephengrinkley9889
😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥
WTF when did he die?
@@southsidecompton9668 Almost a year ago
The Pirates have an ownership curse. The Nutting curse.
Absolutely, Nutting is the worst owner in all of professional sports. I keep hoping Pittsburgh native Mark Cuban will buy the team.
Sure Nutting sucks, but how does that explain the years and years of losing before he became owner?
@@planepirate When you have the lowest, or close to it, year after year you will never keep star players or actually win. Look at Skenes. He'll probably get paid more per season than the entire Pirates roster this season when he hits the end of his contract.
19:58 Pirates? worst owner? you can't be serious how bout the old man in Chicago who has one one championship in 44 seasons the Pirates aren't going to lose over 120 games this season
Spend Nutting, win Nutting
I've been a Pirate's fan for so long that my older brother and I used to stand outside Forbes Field with a transistor radio during games as little kids, and one usher who was our friend's dad used to let us in the outfield bleacher gate for free at the 7th inning stretch if it wasn't a sell out, and we would yell stuff down to Clemente. So I've been a fan through the good and bad. By far the most catastrophic thing that ever happened to the Pirates is Bob Nutting. The cheapest,. least involved or interested owner in all of professional sports. He has made the Pirates nothing more than a farm team for everyone else willing to invest some money into player for their teams, The man is a disgrace. we have the most beautiful field in the majors, and fans like me that still love the team. The only salvation I can see for this team is a new owner, hopefully Pittsburgh native Mark Cuban could buy the team and actually pay players to stay. Paul Skenes will be the next to go in a couple years under Nutting.
Nice job covering all that. Was a huge Braves fan when Sid made that slide, but still for you guys on that one. OUUUUCHHHH
I was a Yankees fan while stationed near Jacksonville FL so I saw all the Braves games in 89-92. They were gamers.
I remember when sid slid as it was my first memory of playoff baseball in ATL
Yeah, NONE of the Braves fans want to remember getting B1TCH-SLAPPED by the ‘69 Mets!!!
It was ALL Jose Linda’s fault!!
Sid.
I hated Pittsburgh for beating the Orioles in 1979 after the Orioles had taken a 3-1 series lead, but man, I really felt for them after Game 7 of that 1992 NLCS. The team was already breaking up with the departure of Bobby Bonilla the previous offseason to free agency and the preseason trade of John Smiley to Minnesota. And after that game, with the imminent departures of cornerstones like Bonds and Drabek, you knew their best chance at making the World Series had come and gone.
The Marlins and Braves were the biggest rivalry in sports?!?!?! That's laughable
I think it was sarcasm.
Cincinnati and Pittsburgh were/are one of the best rivalries in sports.
Unfortunately, both have sucked at baseball for 30 years, and the Bengals sucked at football before Joey B.
After Eric Gregg gave the Marlins that series win singlehandedly with his atrocious and one sided strike zone.
He was being sarcastic
Living in Pittsburgh i can tell you that Sid Bream still haunts us lol.
If Bonds listens to Van Slyke, the Pirates throw him out and probably win in extras. 90%
Probably doesn’t help that he still lives in the area.
Funny thing is the Cubs just inducted Aramis Ramirez into their Hall of Fame.
The greatest World Series was 1960.
The Yankees were a great team. They actually broke World Series scoring records against the Pirate. The game the Pirate won were only by a few runs.
The Pirate started the Series by losing the first two games, but coming back in game 3.
The series went to the 7th game. The score was tied and went into extra innings.
In the 10th inning, Bill Mazeroski hit a home run to win the World Series.
Pittsburgh went crazy. The fans left Forbes Field in the Oakland section of Pittsburgh and walked downtown to celebrate all night.
It was the greatest World Series, especially beating the Yankees.
55-27 Yankees runs to Pirates runs. Mantle cried afterward.
@@dicky7600 Well, the Yankees can't win every World Series.
The 1961 Yankees were voted the Best Yankees Team ever, the 1960 team and the 1961 team were the same.
@jamesmooney8933 oh they were damn good. If they could have put Ford on the mound 1 more time in game 7 we'd probably have a different result.
1991 was the greatest world series.
@ericandrew9214 Was it one in the 7th game? Was it a great come back?
My best friend and I was at game 5 and watched Bob Walk's gem of a game. We didn't think we could win that with Bob on the mound.
Remember Walt Terrel (ible)
Nice Randy Marsh reference
Sid Bream should ask Barry Bonds to autograph his wooden leg.
You can tell he would give his middle finger at Bream just like he did towards his former teammate Van Slyke.
😂😂😂😂
I remember Bream chugging around the bases that game!
Leyland with the Mike Diaz Rambo poster on the wall held on with trainers tape 😂
68 yrs old. Born and raised in Pittsburgh. I have watched the Pirates go from maybe not always great,but at least good and always competitive. The last 20 yrs they have been a laughing stock and a pipeline to better teams for any decent players they get. The owners suck and are to cheap to field a winner.😢
That wild card game was a hell of a night, I will cherish that memory for the rest of my days. I can still hear the quato chants like I'm there.
But a wild card win doesn't count as a winning season. it's the same thing as a participation trophy. So, it's been longer than 20 years.
Nate Sexauer made a great 2 part video series about the Pirates during the 20 year losing streak. It's called "Come See Us Play". It's long but definitely worth a watch.
I was at game 5 of the 1992 NLCS. There were a lot of empty seats for a playoff.
Good job. Glad I found this channel. Subscribed!!
Sid Bream was nice enough to sign both a Pirates and Braves card. Good guy.
Oh, well there was always Bill Mazeroski in game 7 of the 1960 World 🌎 Series
Barry bonds before the steroids as he looks different because much smaller. You actually forget how good he was. All you remember is the steroids.
Real good on the throw to the plate
Nah we remember. Only memeber of 400 /400 club. But besides a since a newspaper write up, it got no attention. A first ever career mlb achievement, ignored. Bonds made sure they didn't ignore his next achievements
Bonds had a terrible playoff batting average
@@1USACitizen192 Looked like the St. Louis Arch
@@1USACitizen192 If it were a good throw it would have gotten Bream out.
Awesome video. I want to attend a game in PNC Park one day.
Fransisco Cabrera was the last guy on Bobby Cox's bench. The next pinch hitter wouldve been Tom Glavine.
I remember that at-bat. Probably his only great feat in baseball and it depended on the fleetness of foot (!) of Sid Bream.
@@marktoken6052 Barry Bonds would have played center and not left if he had a better arm
Even though Cabrera only played 17 games that year, his skill set actually matched up well against Belinda. There's some ESPN program about the Braves highlighting that.
I was a Huge Andy Van Slyke fan. I still carry his baseball card in my wallet today. I remember game 7 and the image of him out in center field slumped over in your thumbnail is forever etched in my memory. I remember it off and on every year at some point for some reason. It is very hard to be a Pirates fan honestly. The city really deserves a better owner for the team. I'll die in Pittsburgh before ever seeing a World Series here I think.
I met Andy on numerous occasions his nephews went to school with me and his dad was a principal and judge in our town in New Hartford, NY. He was a fantastic defensive outfielder before Griffey Jr probably the best in baseball for a time. He had injuries after 1994 that ended his career but he was a great player, best my hometown has ever seen
@@peterrukavena4955 i cried watching him break his collarbone in Wrigley. He was never the same after. Thankfully I also have a vivid memory of his diving catch in left field at an ASG to offset this dejection.
@@foxmolnar6258 Yes I remember in June of 1993, he seemed to recover as he made it back that year in September and played really well. However he got hurt again in early 1994 and that was it, he played 1995 in Baltimore and Philly and he was done
he went into coaching for a bit as well. Fun side note is when he visited Pgh he did a KDKA weather report segment too
Ran across this here while knowing yesterday was the 32 year anniversary of the Sid Slide(October 14, 1992) and as a Braves fan I must thank you Barry Bonds. I must thank you for never stopping being a prick and always letting your giant ego stand in your way of achieving anything other than individual accolades. No rings for Barry!!!!!!!!!
I hate to break it to you, but Atlanta is over 4 degrees of latitude farther west than Pittsburgh. In fact, Atlanta is farther west than almost the entire state of Ohio (a state which is completely to the west of Pittsburgh).
Further west than Detroit too
Good thing this isn’t a geography documentary
RIP wake
The only thing worse than 108 years of no World Series wins-it’s 20 losing seasons in a row. The World Series is the hardest set of MLB games to even make it to much less win. Having a winning season is not as hard and MLB teams should be able to do it once in awhile.
17:08 Umm, yeah, Adam LaRoche compared trading guys to fellow soldiers getting killed in a war. Meanwhile Jack Wilson created a Nate McLouth shrine. They weren’t traded for nothing, and really maybe if both of those guys lived up to the hype, they along with other players never would have been traded.
The 1986 Boston Red Sox also rallied from a 3 games to 1 deficit to defeat the then California Angels in the ALCS one year after the Kansas City Royals did the same to the Toronto Blue Jays. The 1992 Pirates made the playoffs after losing Bobby Bonilla and John Smiley following the prior season. I believe the present day Pirates can be competitive if they keep their young core together for a longer period of time, especially Paul Skenes.
Good catch. That was the famous "one strike away" homerun by Dave Henderson off Donnie Moore in Game 5 of the 1986 ALCS. I also believe that the 1985 Royals were the first team to rally from 3-1 in both the LCS and the Series. They were also the first team to win the Series after losing the first two at home. The Mets would replicate that feat the following year against the Red Sox.
I remember needing to take about a four hour walk in the middle of the night after this game, it hurt so much. Chico Lind making an error he never made started the sense of dread. But all Belinda had to do was step off the mound; Bream had a gigantic lead and would have been easily caught. Good thing to mention the selective strike zones of the umps in that series though.
I feel Pittsburgh's pain, aside from 1971 and my 1979, the latter involving my Orioles historic face plant.
We have not had a title since Cal caught Maddux's line drive in 1983....
Can't remember what exact year it was but they acquired Reggie sanders and Kenny lofton.theses new players balled out what should have been a playoff run ended in disaster as the null pen lost 52 games down the stretch.just another losing season and left n and sanders moved on.
player one: 139 OPS+ 6.4 WAR
player two: 160 OPS+ 7.3 WAR
Which player deserves the MVP in 1991?
One of the most egregious MVP votes of all time. Sportswriters couldn't keep their egos in check, and wanted to punish Barry Bonds for giving them attitude. Sad and borderline criminally negligent.
War and ops + weren’t stats back then
Jim Leyland smoked Marlboro Reds. He was a badass.
Maybe. But he also lost that pennant by going for a meaningless complete game for Drabek, and by not bringing in his closer until the bases are loaded.
Yes and he also challenged Bonds to a fight in spring training 1991. Don’t make them like that anymore.
@@FerdinandCesaranoIt worse the night before, letting Tim Wakefield go the distance and not pull him in order to have him ready for game 7 just in case.
@@crowtservo Should have started Mcclendon in G7. Go with the hot hand.
Imagine if he smoked Newport then
Picksburgh - super farm team for the MLB
This along with "America's Team" not having been in ONE "Final Four" (NFC Championship Game) in nearly 30 years has got to be the most embarrassing playoff droughts at least in fairly recent memory. Oh yeah, the Mariners are still the only MLB team to never appeared in a World Series.
Robert Nutting is the worst thing to happen to the pirates. They'll never win the NL as long as he's the owner.
Keep it going bob! Nutting ventured. Nutting gained
Nice finish with Javy Baez making the Pirates' first baseman look like a total idiot. 🤣
As a big time Pittsburgh sports fan, I can confidently say that Public Enemy #1 to us is a tie between Bob Nutting and Tom Brady
Isn't that over 30 years??? The last few years, they have not been CLOSE to being a Playoff team. Add insult to injury, Bonilla and Leyland would celebrate a World Series Victory...in Florida.
If Leyland would have pulled Belinda for Walk. They would have won that game. And probably swept the Jay's in the 92 series.
I remember when chico lind made that error i was watching it live on T.V
Did Drabek pitch all the way through 8 innings? I think so. Unheard of now, but then letting a pitcher try a complete game was at least plausible.
Didn't Jack Morris go 10 or even eleven innings to secure a World Series for the Twins?
Especially after losing in the NLCS the previous 2 years, i would have let Drabek pitch until 2 men got on base or something like that.
Jack Morris went 10 innings. Tom Kelly went out to pull him from the game and Morris talked him out of it. Tom Kelly basically told him it’s just a game, go get them.
@@crowtservoThat was game 7 of the 1991 World Series against the Braves
@crowtservo when a guy has adrenaline and the finish line in front of him, let him go. It was NLCS game 7, not a late June game.
Nah, Leyland was a great manager, but he punted this one. It was pretty obvious that Drabek was running on fumes in the 8th inning. I know you want to give your star pitcher the chance to finish off his shutout, but he had nothing left, and Leyland would have been better off bringing Belinda in to start the 9th.
The other thing that ticked me off was that once he did bring Belinda in, he wasn't sharp. Yes, you want to leave the game in the hands of your closer, but this was Game 7...you do what you gotta do. Leyland had both Bob Walk and Tim Wakefield ready in the pen and never went to them.
Still, if the usual slick-fielding Chico Lind doesn't boot that double play ball, Drabek finished the game and Leyland looks like a genius.
Meanwhile, Sid Bream continued to live in the Pittsburgh area for a long time after...in fact, he may still live around here, I don't know. I have run into him a couple times, and he is really one of the nicest people you'd ever want to meet.
Tough to imagine where baseball would be without
that Braves-Marlins rivalry 😂
I was one of the guys that had "MUCK THE FETS" signs in '91.
And i still dont allow anyone to say the name "Sid Bream" in my house.
It's actually been 32 years... And only two words need to be said... Sid Bream 🏴☠️
Beaten by Francisco "Clutch" Cabrera. A nail biter ending and Pittsburgh baseball was never the same.
God this is painful..not just bream..all the 1 run losses while drabek and smith were so good
The curse of Barry Bonds is real.
Just imagine how many enemies Bonds made in his entire lifetime. Way too many.
No it's not. It's the curse of Bob Nutting and his being such a cheapskate.
The Sid Bream play had nothing to do with the Pirates stinking out the joint for 20 years after that. It had more to do with a) The team being in one of the smaller markets, and b) Having ownership use that as an excuse for running the club on the cheap....first Carl Barger and his ownership group, then Kevin McClatchy, and now the absolute worst of the bunch, the Cheapskate Hillbilly Prince Bob Nutting.
Nutting buying the team is the play?????
I love how you added Rowdy Tellez as a building block.
They released him...like any self respecting Pirate team would lol
The whole 9th inning of the 92 NLCS game 7 was one bad thing after another.
Cabrera’s hit was the only hard hit of the inning. Pendleton’s double to Lead off should have been caught by Cecil Espy.
If the 92 pirates win the WS, Pittsburgh could have been a destination
Wait. Braves and Marlins? The most heated rivalry...? In sports ...? Is the voice serious? Gotta be a joke.
That's no joke that Bonds flipped off teammate 😆 Andy Van Slyke who had the nerve to suggest Barry move in (You can't tell Bonds what to do !) and then the base hit right to Bonds who can't throw out Sid Bream because Bonds was playing too deep? Classic Bonds ego. He is more important than the game Fast forward and he is a "juicer' cuz he must be the HR king. Best team? Nah. HR king? You bet.
I was raised in the Pittsburgh area, but prefer the Yankees, they have the history and 27 world series and plenty more pennants and championship and playoff runs. The Pirates have been garbage for years and I don't see them getting any better any time soon, and the Steelers aren't too much better nor the Pens.
The Pirates Marketing Department is probably working on a big "FIFTY YEARS SINCE WE WERE LAST IN A WORLD SERIES!!!" celebration for 2029. I see zero chance of them being in one between now and then. Heck, I see a zero chance of them finishing a season above .500 in the next five years.
John McSherry leaving the game is some eerie foreshadowing :|
Imagine what could have been if Barry bonds had actually tried hard to win baseball games instead of grotesquely inflating his skull with anabolic steroids
Stan Belinda Carlisle😂😂
Hey at least you have Mr. Livvy Dunne now!
That Barry Bonds curse is real.
As a pirates fan I enjoy those 6 dollar tickets but man I would like to see them do something instead of stat padding other teams 😂
I remember feeling disgusted as a NYY fan that season, the worst record they've had in my lifetime. But I wrote because the icing on the cake was watching the Reds and Pirates playing in the NLCS led by Jose Rijo and Doug Drabek, two pitchers who the Yankees traded in the worst of the George days. Worked out by the id 90's but damn that was awful to watch.
from 2010-2013 the astros lost 100 games each year...the owner got serious, changed the team from top to bottom, they got the astros from the national league to the american league and made them leave spring training from florida to arizona. the astros have not not made the playoffs since.... pirates need to do the same thing....just go radical...look what the tigers did in 2024...55-63 and they just took off to the playoffs...cant nutting see that?....the Pirates in the playoffs would be so great for baseball and the city of pittsburgh.....anyone want to loan me 6 billion dollars? i'll buy the team and make it a winner...
Good vid..but its no curse..the owner is cheap..even if nutting payed mid level payroll... Its still hard to compete
When the BIG money clubs treat you like their FARM team…you’re DOOMED!!
At 3:59 you say they were facing a team farther east than them. Look at a map dude.
That was sarcasm dude. I think that was a reference to the fact that the Braves were in the NL West at the time.
Is Andy Van Slyke still worshipped in Pittsburgh?
@@jonyb123a He was pretty damn good
It was all down hill for the pirates once they joined the central. Haven't won a division title since then.
I have zero faith in the Pirates. This was supposed to be a competitive season and instead, they may not even improve from last year's win total
Randal Simon hit the mascot with the bat right? Guy had an uneventful career outside that
And then they did the most Pirates thing ever with Rowdy Tellez…
The Pirates are the Detroit Lions of baseball.
Did he say the Braves and Marlins were the most heated rivalry in sports? Had to be sarcasm.
Phillies fan here. Born in 1987. Goddamnit I hate the Braves
I can tell you one thing the owners cheap and doesn't want to spend a lot of his money to make him a contender the real problem in Pittsburgh is the owner
And the Pirates acted like the Pirates again by releasing Rowdy Tellez and screwing him out of a performance bonus.
Damn Barry the 🐐
Barry is the GOAT, but also the reason behind the curse. The Pirates apparently were unwilling to give Barry Bonds a 5 year/$5 million per year extension. Even in 1992 dollars, whole that would have set a record, it wouldn't have been anything WAY out of range for his contribution to the team. Particularly with the way contacts have expanded since then. It was also nowhere near what bonds ended up making at free agency!
@@kingezrareis6322there’s no mythical curse just a bozo in charge
Go Braves!
Lol, the Reds and the Pirates kicking 3 field goals! 🤣
In trading Jason Kendall in 2003, they didnt do themselves ANY favors!
20 years? After Bob Nutting took over ownership the team will never be a winner.
You had me up until 12:39. Dang AI voice.
How do you get in a Randy Marsh joke, but not do the same for Bobby Hill ?
You mean 32 years not 20.
Apparently Madonna is a Pirates fan. 😊
It was Jose “Leaned” not Jose “Linned”
1992 Barry Bonds half asses it and Sid Bream scores...
Skip:
Braves Winnnn
Braves Winnnn
Braves Winnnn
Braves Winnnn
The problem for the Pittsburgh pirates is the owner not being able to sign franchise player's to long term contracts and the luxury tax... Because they are low market they don't have the money to keep they're super stars ... Pittsburgh is a football town not a baseball town.... That's why they haven't won anything since 1979!!!
Ever hear of the Penguins? 5 time Stanley Cup winners in that period of time...
Are you saying if B bonds was doing steroids then things would be different?
Jim Leyland, a lifetime .506 manager.
That's two points worse than Don Zimmer
How long before Skenes is traded for a handful of magic beans?
Maybe you can't count but the early 90's was 30 + years ago
yeah trading Kenny Lofton tended to be bad for the team losing Kenny Lofton
I would not call Marlins and braves a rivalry
Man, this guy talks fast.