Mark, thank you so much, I am just making the Transition to Classical / Flamenco from Steal String and was lucky enough to find one of these used at my local shop and I love it! After seeing your review I know I made the right decision . Thanks and Best Wishes , J... ( Toronto )
Thanks for the nice review Mark. I played for a lot of years before I really gave Yamaha guitars a chance... I couldn't get past a motorcycle company building guitars... I was on a trip, needed a guitar, got an FG730S and finally understood. They are perfect and consistent right out of the box, stable and reliable, comfortable playability and great tone... I'm picking up a new CG172FS tomorrow, actually learning flamenco... go figure.
Yamaha was a musical instrument company way before it became a motorcycle company. In fact they are one of the world's oldest musical instrument company and they started as a musical instrument company and later diversified into varying other businesses. Their very logo depicts tuning forks owing to them originally being a musical instrument company. Yamaha was established in 1887 as a piano and reed organ manufacturer in Japan.
It's my favorite sounding guitar for under $1000. I have small hands so now I'm sticking with crossovers and nylon electrics. My current guitar is a Cordoba Stage and it's very practical for me for a lot of reasons, but I prefer the sound of this little budget flamenco guitar
@@marekmarek2700 Yes, sir! The spruce sounds good. I lowered the action a bit n the strings are a little to close at the nut for me, but I think it's an awesome guitar for the price. I think it's probably the best guitar for someone to try flamenco, before investing in a student or concert model.
I played one of these today and couldn't believe how good it sounded for $286. I love the low action too. How do you find it compares to other spruce top classical guitars-- guitars that are less designed for flamenco and more designed for classical?
The sound is very punchy and cuts nicely. The other Yamaha classical guitars I have played have a longer sustain, and a slower attack in sound. I think a mellower sound overall. Spruce is my favorite sounding wood for a top as opposed to cedar.
@@markkeatingmusic interesting. What is the action at the 12th fret on the cg172sf? I measured a couple of their CG192S guitars and it was around 4.5mm for both high and low E.
@@rxw5520 Good question. Did you ever find out whether there is a difference in the action between the CG172SF and the CG192S? I'm asking because I'm looking at purchasing either a CG192C or the new CG182SF.
@@mikeritlop yes, I purchased both the flamenco 172sf, and the cedar top 192c. The actions at 12th fret: cg172sf: 6th string: 3mm, 1st string: 2.6mm. cg192c: 6th 3.8mm, 1st 3.6mm. As you can see the treble string action on the 192c was quite a bit higher. I also had two cg192s guitars with about the same action. I wanted to get the action lowered by sanding the saddle, but the saddle on the cedar top was already about as low as it could go. This is actually unusual for these guitars. On both of the two cg192s (spruce tops) they had the same action and plenty of saddle left to sand down from adjustment. Basically what I think this means is that I got unlucky to get a cg192c that was slightly defective and had to have the saddle sanded way down at the factory. It was put together slightly differently at the neck joint and they had to sand the saddle all the way down to get the action to the standard point, which is very unusual and unlike the 192s guitars I had. I would guess that if you ordered one it would probably have sufficient saddle left to sand down and lower the action. Just make sure you get it from someone with return policy. I ended up returning all mine except the 172sf. I plan on ordering another cg192c and expecting it won't be defective this time! I loved the sound of the 192c the most of any of the guitars.
@@rxw5520 Thank you very much for your detailed response! I appreciate it. Many years ago, I used to play classical guitar and I'm now returning to it. But now that I'm on in age, my fingers don't have the same dexterity that they use to have and I'm considering the 182SF simply because of the lower action. Btw, out of the box, is there any more noticable buzz in the 182SF (because of the lower action) compared to the 192C?
Mike, are you playing this guitar left handed? I’m a leftie, but I have played right - my sister in law has this guitar and I love it - I want to study classical and I want to learn to play left...
CG172SF from Yamaha is a flamenco guitar ... not a classical guitar. They are different in sound, build, materials and are set up differently. Do NOT assume one is like the other. It is NOT true. Watch this well-made video about both types : ua-cam.com/video/fE0aTCtM9hs/v-deo.html
Mark, thank you so much, I am just making the Transition to Classical / Flamenco from Steal String and was lucky enough to find one of these used at my local shop and I love it! After seeing your review I know I made the right decision . Thanks and Best Wishes , J... ( Toronto )
Yamaha are good at everything they do...period
Thanks for the nice review Mark. I played for a lot of years before I really gave Yamaha guitars a chance... I couldn't get past a motorcycle company building guitars... I was on a trip, needed a guitar, got an FG730S and finally understood. They are perfect and consistent right out of the box, stable and reliable, comfortable playability and great tone... I'm picking up a new CG172FS tomorrow, actually learning flamenco... go figure.
Yamaha was a musical instrument company way before it became a motorcycle company. In fact they are one of the world's oldest musical instrument company and they started as a musical instrument company and later diversified into varying other businesses. Their very logo depicts tuning forks owing to them originally being a musical instrument company. Yamaha was established in 1887 as a piano and reed organ manufacturer in Japan.
Thanks for the post! It’s so nice to get a review.
It's my favorite sounding guitar for under $1000. I have small hands so now I'm sticking with crossovers and nylon electrics. My current guitar is a Cordoba Stage and it's very practical for me for a lot of reasons, but I prefer the sound of this little budget flamenco guitar
Sounds great. I just ordered one. What is the piece at the end titled? It sounds great!
Do you enjoy playing your Yamaha?
@@marekmarek2700 Yes, sir! The spruce sounds good. I lowered the action a bit n the strings are a little to close at the nut for me, but I think it's an awesome guitar for the price.
I think it's probably the best guitar for someone to try flamenco, before investing in a student or concert model.
@@crissixstrings thank you! I’m thinking about buiyng one as well ;)
Btw. The piece is fragment of jorge cardoso - milonga
@@marekmarek2700 Cool! Thank you
Great review !!
I played one of these today and couldn't believe how good it sounded for $286. I love the low action too. How do you find it compares to other spruce top classical guitars-- guitars that are less designed for flamenco and more designed for classical?
The sound is very punchy and cuts nicely. The other Yamaha classical guitars I have played have a longer sustain, and a slower attack in sound. I think a mellower sound overall. Spruce is my favorite sounding wood for a top as opposed to cedar.
@@markkeatingmusic interesting. What is the action at the 12th fret on the cg172sf? I measured a couple of their CG192S guitars and it was around 4.5mm for both high and low E.
@@rxw5520 Good question. Did you ever find out whether there is a difference in the action between the CG172SF and the CG192S? I'm asking because I'm looking at purchasing either a CG192C or the new CG182SF.
@@mikeritlop yes, I purchased both the flamenco 172sf, and the cedar top 192c. The actions at 12th fret:
cg172sf: 6th string: 3mm, 1st string: 2.6mm.
cg192c: 6th 3.8mm, 1st 3.6mm.
As you can see the treble string action on the 192c was quite a bit higher. I also had two cg192s guitars with about the same action. I wanted to get the action lowered by sanding the saddle, but the saddle on the cedar top was already about as low as it could go. This is actually unusual for these guitars. On both of the two cg192s (spruce tops) they had the same action and plenty of saddle left to sand down from adjustment. Basically what I think this means is that I got unlucky to get a cg192c that was slightly defective and had to have the saddle sanded way down at the factory. It was put together slightly differently at the neck joint and they had to sand the saddle all the way down to get the action to the standard point, which is very unusual and unlike the 192s guitars I had. I would guess that if you ordered one it would probably have sufficient saddle left to sand down and lower the action. Just make sure you get it from someone with return policy. I ended up returning all mine except the 172sf. I plan on ordering another cg192c and expecting it won't be defective this time!
I loved the sound of the 192c the most of any of the guitars.
@@rxw5520 Thank you very much for your detailed response! I appreciate it. Many years ago, I used to play classical guitar and I'm now returning to it. But now that I'm on in age, my fingers don't have the same dexterity that they use to have and I'm considering the 182SF simply because of the lower action. Btw, out of the box, is there any more noticable buzz in the 182SF (because of the lower action) compared to the 192C?
Bruh your playing is so awesome. How long have you been playing ?
Great review, just ordered one. I plan on uploading some stuff with it soon :)
How is your Yamaha? :)
Your playing is nice and smoothe..Nice
Mike, are you playing this guitar left handed? I’m a leftie, but I have played right - my sister in law has this guitar and I love it - I want to study classical and I want to learn to play left...
Thank you. Great review
These are great guitars. . .my D string buzzes a little but $350! a great deal
Thank you so much. Wonderful wonderful video. Very helpful.
sounds almost as good as your more expensive yamahas , ie the gc 32, 22
Hello, whats the title of the last melody?
Nice playing!
I noticed that the price dropped on these. I might try to grab one before they disappear
What do they run?
Good idea
Where can I buy this gitar please, I saw a few online shop out of stock,
What the first melody in the video?
Is it better then cg182s?
Dose any one now what the bridge marital is on the Yamaha cg172sf ?
Urea!
What's the name of the melody in the intro??
It sounds so familiar but I can’t place it. Did you come across the title yet?
I think its Milonga. Check out the version by Tatyana Ryzkova
Make nxr one louder can't hear it...
What pickup do you use?
I have a highlander mic/ust combo in there right now, but it broke so I have to get something else..
Yamaha flamenco guitar I have it's not good sounds I sold
It's too bad that you recorded in a live room. UGh!
Its tones not genuine or not sound like spanish guitar. If you are serious flamenco guitarist, i dont prefer this guitar.
CG172SF from Yamaha is a flamenco guitar ... not a classical guitar. They are different in sound, build, materials and are set up differently. Do NOT assume one is like the other. It is NOT true. Watch this well-made video about both types : ua-cam.com/video/fE0aTCtM9hs/v-deo.html