I don't have a problem. Though, it's her relationship with Ezra that's been on my mind more than Sabine tapping to the force. Considering her actions to find him, I could agrue she'd develop strong romantic feelings for him and it makes her rash descisions to find him even more understandable. Perpashps she felt guilt over not returing Ezra's attraction to her in Rebels, realzing she is mutually feeling those same emtoions when she realized Ezra saw her more than just some hot girl he wants to date, but a person, someone who'd treat her well and enough to be equal raher eitheir a subbornite wife or a timid husband. That's a compelling relationship and we saw great glimpses of how it could turn out and it really forcasted a healthy relationship. It brings to mind the relationship of Fry and Leela from Futurama, a comdey yes, but the chemisrty between the two was both heartwarming and emotional as well being something the audience takes seriously and even feel for. I'm much more invested on that arc than even Baylon's arc, cause of the history those two share and the build up shown in Ahsoka.
@coletrain583 I agree! And I think that the the dry and leela example was really good! I definitely think Ezra and Sabine will end up together by the end!
I don't think it was so easy for Sabine to help Ezra in his jump. If you watch the scene again you will notice Sabine's hands trembling. She was straining to help him.
My take was that Sabine handled the training and warrior aspects of being a Jedi, but she was blocked from truly accepting the force. I chalked it up to the fact that she trusted her abilities and it was tough for her to let go and trust something else. That is why when she finally let the force in, it was going to be like turning on a faucet. Luke was the last Jedi from a certain point of view. Ahsoka had left the order, Sabine and Ezra were trained by people who hadn’t completed their Jedi training and others could have been cut off from the force or hiding where yoda couldn’t sense them.
Good analysis. I'd say Sabine's ability to use the Force is like a writer overcomint writer's block: a whole lot of frustrating nothing, then suddenly the writer's block is broken through and possibilities come flooding into existence. If she can pull a lightsaber, she can push a man. She believes it, and that's what matters. Sabine's an artist, and I'm hoping that Season 2 will show her using the Force through her art. Maybe premonitions through spray-painting, or force illusions through perspective trickery...?
I honestly agree, it was rewatching Kanan train Sabine that made me accept that Sabine could use the force, but because of her background and mental state as a mandalorian, she closed herself off. So Kanan already sensing that Sabine keeps herself closed off of course would let him know that while she has a lot of potential, as a jedi he can't and won't force it out of her. It honestly just surprised me that she was able to help launch Ezra with this being her next force attempt after seeing how much of a struggle it was just to get the lightsaber. I am very interested because I know very little about mandalorians and how there was only one mandalorian jedi before it's going to be interesting to see how sabine being the second mandolorian jedi will turn out.
@@mothergoose275 Honestly, her relationship with Ezra Bridger is what's on my mind. Hopefully, they reunite and develop their relationship like we expected to do. Honestly, the two have strong feelings for each other and that needs exploring.
I agree with you whole heartedly. There were many hints throughout Rebels that I noticed since the Ahsoka trailers came out in July. As for Kanan not noticing or training her may be due to her being blocked and being very Mandalorian in their dogmatic views of the Force, not that Sabine is or was who can say before Rebels started. Kanan may not have had the time or luxury due the rebellion and he was still training Ezra. He can't take on another Padawan while still teaching Ezra. Plus he may not have picked up on it because it is not always easy to sense those who do especially with minor abilities as Sabine. Also on a side note I do feel that Sabine might be the key to Thrawn's undoing due to their interest in art and combat.
Also don’t forget the way the force worked, at least in Rebels. When it is needed most, it comes to someone. Ezra’s most powerful moments were when he was protecting his family, such as when he rose the giant beast in Season One. Sabine had the same experience of being more connected to the force in a time of need.
I got the impression that she finally shed her mandolorian sensibilities and connected to the force. Her roots are in being a warrior who attacks on the front foot, (which troubled both ahsoka and jarrus). The moment she starts to manipulate the force she is protecting herself and Ezra. This to me kinda sets her future role as an incorruptible force wielder despite the doubts harboured by her master! As an ‘heir to the empire’ project will not include Luke and Leia; Sabine and Ezra will step into their dynamic.. or so I speculate
Oohhh that’s such a good point! I hadn’t thought of that! But I think you’re right about here shedding her mandalorian sensibilities! I do hope we see Luke and Leia in the heir to the empire movie though!
@@mothergoose275 thanks man! I do love what Filoni is doing, he seems to leave us with plenty to talk about.. As for Luke and Leia; I would like to see them play a major part but I don’t want anymore AI. Sadly I can’t see Disney coming to their senses and recasting. Maybe Filoni is setting up his rebels/mandoverse characters to be on the front line for the new republic in a Thrawn movie project? Less ‘member’ more ‘berry’ ha!
Same, overall the Mandoverse has been amazing! And I completely agree about the CGI and just recast the OT gang. I even hope they bring back the actor for solo I know that wasn’t everyone’s favorite movie but I liked it and believe he deserves another chance
@@mothergoose275 yes mate! I really liked what he did in solo and the same goes for Donald glover as lando.. The twins could easily be written out as Luke disappeared to search for secret Jedi dogging spots and Leia was too busy in the senate enjoying the smell of her own farts haha 😉
Ya I think Luke could be “too busy” starting his school, and Leia would be focused on senate and her son, which I don’t think Ben is old enough yet to have gone to Luke’s school.
I think Sabine's story is the inverse of the Old Republic's Jedi General Meetra Surik, from Kotor 2. Meetra was one of the strongest Jedi and fought valiantly beside Revan against the Mandalorian invasion of the Republic several thousand years before the Galactic Empire came along. During the war a great tragedy happened that Meetra was partly responsible for - at Revan's behest she used a superweapon to wipe out in an instant entire armies and fleets of both Mandalorian and the Republic. Thousands died in an instant and that broke Meetra, broke her so badly she severed her connection to the Force and spent the next several years in exile. After time goes on and she begins to travel with others, forming strong friendships and takes on a mentor of sorts, she reestablishes her connection to the Force to once again become a very powerful Jedi again. Compare that now to Sabine, which is Meetra's story in reverse. When she was still a child (she's a genius) Sabine created a super weapon at the Imperial Academy, not knowing that the Empire had plans to use it on her own people - on Mandalorians. So she destroyed the machine, destroyed her research, destroyed a good chunk of the Academy and was exiled not just among Mandalorians but by her own family. She was essentially told: "You come back? We'll kill you." And Sabine couldn't have been more than ten or twelve at this point. During her exile though she would meet up with the Ghost crew from Rebels and find herself a new family, seeing Hera and Kanan as surrogate parents and later becoming very close with Ezra. Throughout all of this Sabine is Force Sensitive and we see hints of it throughout Rebels (Bendu, the Owls, Loth Wolves, Darksaber, etc) but she never shows any aptitude for it because - like Meetra - in order to survive she has cut herself off from others. But just as she is starting to put her life back together and open up tragedy strikes again for her; she returns to Mandalore with the Darksaber to aid her people only to learn that the superweapon she had created as a child was rebuilt by the Empire and used - killing dozens of Mandalorians by incinerating them in their own armor. It's another kick to the face but she eventually rises up and redeems herself, destroying the superweapon and giving the Darksaber to Bo Katan. She splits her time between her surrogate space family (Ezra and the others) and tries to reconnect with her family on Mandalore - that is until the Rebels series finale where (once more) tragedy strikes. Within the span of the week, Kanan is killed and Ezra makes a sacrifice of his own to send both himself and Thrawn far far away with no way to learn of where he went nor if he would ever return. So Sabine stays on Lothal, keeping a promise to Ezra to watch over his planet and (as pointed out in the video) later Ahsoka shows up to train her. And I suppose she was showing aptitude but - as we've seen numerous times again and again - tragedy strikes in the Night of a Thousand Tears. Mandalore is bombed and her entire clan and family are killed. Pile this on top of everything else that's happened and the girl (who is only in her early 20s by this point) and it all begins to take a toll on her. Ahsoka is her master but more than ever Sabine needs Ezra, who is stranded in an entirely another galaxy - though we did at one point see her hear his voice while she was sleeping, which just goes to show how strong their bond is. Given all the tragedy and recent loss of her family, Ahsoka makes the choice to stop training Sabine which while may have been the correct choice (Sabine is a Mando and she wants revenge) Sabine still sees this as just another person giving up on her, and at this point I don't see how anyone can fault her for thinking that. Like Meetra she continues her exile up until the events of Ahsoka take place, when at long last we see her drop her walls and open herself up again when she is reunited with Ezra. And when his life is on the line (twice) she is able to access the Force and save him. She still has a lot of issues from her past to deal with, but she has at long last connected with the Force and all those years of trying and failing at her training have paid off. She may be stranded in an entirely different galaxy but she knows Ezra is okay and with Ahsoka by her side she is no longer alone. I wish the Ahsoka series could have delved a bit more into her backstory and explained how some Force Sensitives can actually cut themselves off from the Force, but what's done is done. I think that Sabine's story is far from over but thankfully her days of being alone and cutting herself off from others has come to an end. Now it's time for her to heal.
I said at the beginning of the series when it was revealed that Sabine had trained with Ahsoka previously, that if she unblocked her connection to the force, she would use it in a big way, and she did. Then I went and rewatched rebels and I found that there were quite a lot of times when Sabine displays abilities that showed she had a force ability without even knowing it. You have to understand Jedi and Mandalorian's are polar opposites so it goes that Sabine would have this psychological block to the force, then when Ahsoka connected with Sabine in episode 7 of Ahsoka and then Sabine trusting in the force more, giving herself over to it, she was able to access it easily once she had opened up to it.
It's not her using the force that bothers me. Its her going from barely being able to pull a lightsaber to being able to push Ezra across a substantial gap in a matter of minutes.
That’s fair! I can definitely see why that bothers people! I’m okay with it just because she did have so much training, but I think a more natural progression through her using the force may have been better!
We should not forget that there must be a Mandalorian Jedi - because the Darksaber was destroyed and only a new Jedi can make it. And only way to make a new Darksaber is knowledge by Huyang. Information about which crystal exactly goes into the Darksaber and how it is made. And it happens to be next to Sabine. I wouldn't be surprised if he has parts for it in his drawers.🤓
Oh shoot! I wasn’t even think about that fact that he was probably there when it was built! And another commenter pointed out that Sabine was the rightful owner of the Darksaber! She could totally be the one to rebuild it or make a new one! Great point!
I agree with most of what you said except for the more potential than Ezra part. That’s not what Kanan said, he said that Sabine is a more capable warrior than Ezra which is true because she’s a mandalorian and a former student at the imperial academy. But that does equate to potential in the force Ezra is more powerful in that regard. Good video though
From a story stand point.. now that they are all Jedi.. so what now? Having all the Rebel or MC characters being a Jedi were kinda redundant imo.. there should be a reason why she needs to become one. Also kinda hate that Sabine didn't even break a sweat after using the force versus Grogu which is an established force sensitive.. well it is what it is.. I still like Sabine in Rebels which is just a badass Space Punk Mandalorian.. coz we know in all 4 seasons she can handle herself well without any force powers. Coz she doesn't need it imo.
That’s fair! I’m ok with all the main Characters being Jedi, if it were the only show we had ya maybe it would be redundant, but we have other series as well. And I think the grogu thing is probably down to him still being a child, but I could be wrong
Funnily enough, there is a precedent for this, of those without 'prior force training' but being able to tap into it. KOTOR- There were several individuals that would eventually rebuild the order and each of them were force sensitive, but due to the nature of what they went through, many closed those parts of them off, or didn't know how to properly take that next step. A lot of people giving this crap, I am honestly going to chalk it up to the SJW bullshit that much of Star Wars has become, so many likely have bad faith and scorn for it, but this? This has happened before. Atton Rand, Brianna, Mical, Mira, Bao-Dur, and Visas Marr. This isn't new and honestly? This felt more natural then most of the shit Disney has done.
@@whateverwhatever4476 look, the writing for the new sequels was wasted potential, I can get behind that, but the actors weren't bad, and I could feel they were at least apart of the universe they were in. But thats a distinction I made- I blame the writing team, not the actors. They had so much potential for good story telling and I feel they dropped the sack. But I am a minority here. The designs and special effects? Great. The concepts? Interesting. The execution? Flawed.
The major problem is, the ahsoka series doesn't exist in a vacuum. Its basically a continuation of rebels. A really boring, bad continuation of Rebels. There's absolutely no reason for Sabine to be force sensitive.
To be fair, pretty much none of the Star Wars projects exist in a vacuum😅 even andor exists as a prequel to Rogue one. And like I said I think Dave was leaving small hints in rebels she was force sensitive and is finally paying that off, but I totally get it’s not for every one😃
No, we do not understand. Does she love Ezra? Does she not? Does she view him as a brother? Or is she really in love him? After all, this, Dave needs to own this stuff. He put the blueprints. So now he has to work with it. Sorry, but the two being platonic just won't work anymore, not after what Sabine had to do.... Just to find ONE person, at the expense of the rest of the galaxy. If anything, it just makes her more interesting as a character, someone who intially brushed off the flirations of one guy, only when slowly getting to know him, she becomes more interested to the point she ends falling for him even harder, yet both were too shy to confess. That's a set up of a powerful relationship.
I was really excited when I saw her use the force but that’s just a personal preference, but I think in terms of Ahsoka and Ezra they was just too much stuff going on😅 but I agree I think we need some more emotion from these character and I’m really hoping we get it next season
That’s fair! I liked the action, especially the fights between ahsoka and Baylan! But I’ll have to go back and look at the laser shots actual speed, it’s not something I was really paying attention too!
I wasn’t looking forward to the acolyte for a while and then I watched an interview with the main lady either producing or directing it and she was asked a lore question, one that i see even hard core Star Wars fans get wrong and she got it right and that completely changed my opinion, this is someone who clearly knows her stuff and I think it’s gonna be great!
@@mothergoose275Tbh, I kinda hated it, in fact I don’t see the purpose behind this series. I mean. What was the point? I felt this was such a waste of characters, lacked true plot and character development, unfortunately.
And that’s fair! I don’t think this series will be for everyone. And I do think it’s ending was less of an ending and more of a set up for future shows and movies which can definitely be frustrating but I personally still really enjoyed it!
@@mothergoose275True, and it’s also frustrating that for all that it’s a show called Ashoka, it seemed the titular character was more Sabine than her, the same happened with Obi-Wan’s series. I just feel I can’t recognize or connect with these characters anymore 😢
I had similar thought until I saw someone made a graph showing how much screen time each character got in Kenobi. And obi wan by far had the most which was really nice to see! And I think the world between worlds section really was the highlight of Ahsokas arc here
Actually the series established Ashoka was training her long before the series starts. There is no time period mentioned on how long that training was.
That’s fair! and while I brought up stuff from rebels I tried to mainly focus on just what Ahsoka presented us. Its stated in ahsoka that she had some training with kanan and then she trained with ahsoka for a while. The show tells us where she got her lightsaber, it shows us her training, it shows us her failing repeatedly, it tells us that anyone can use the force it just takes dedication and training. All of this is established in ahsoka so I don’t think you need a deep dive to understand it all. But I agree I do think having an understanding of the lore probably does make for a better viewing experience!
you said maybe not perfect. lol. really... Obi-Wan and Ahsoka are garbage. take a look at Admiral Thrawn he looks like a clown, and he seems way more menace [in rebels] and more clever. when my daughter watched Thrawn for the first time that he appeared on this show, my daughter was like wtf. who wrote this sht she told me that Thrawn looked more intimidating in rebels. from his point of view. in this show, he is a laughable and foolish character my daughter is 10 years old and she loves stars war but no this garbage sorry This TV series is an endless nonsense bad writers, lazy script, and very predictable, and so on.
I definitely recognize the flaws these series have had but in my opinion they have still been good! Something we say on the podcast is that “Star Wars is like a restaurant, there’s something on the menu for everyone, but most people aren’t gonna like the whole menu” if that makes sense😅 I personally really liked Thrawn in Ahsoka, I think this series did a great job at showing his tactical genius. His goal was to load up their cargo and escape to the main Star Wars Galaxy without Ahsoka and the gang, while at the same time not expending too many of his limited resources, and besides Ezra he was able to pull off that plan perfectly.
You're in the minority there, sometimes when you bring a character from animation to live action it doesn't come across so well, but it's the same guy playing Thrawn so for me it works. Totally disagree with your last comment, there seems to be penchant for people to hyper critical these days, so to say it's garbage, nowhere near it.
What do you think of Sabine being a Jedi?
She's great!
Right! I really like Sabine!
I luv it with all my heart
I don't have a problem. Though, it's her relationship with Ezra that's been on my mind more than Sabine tapping to the force. Considering her actions to find him, I could agrue she'd develop strong romantic feelings for him and it makes her rash descisions to find him even more understandable. Perpashps she felt guilt over not returing Ezra's attraction to her in Rebels, realzing she is mutually feeling those same emtoions when she realized Ezra saw her more than just some hot girl he wants to date, but a person, someone who'd treat her well and enough to be equal raher eitheir a subbornite wife or a timid husband. That's a compelling relationship and we saw great glimpses of how it could turn out and it really forcasted a healthy relationship. It brings to mind the relationship of Fry and Leela from Futurama, a comdey yes, but the chemisrty between the two was both heartwarming and emotional as well being something the audience takes seriously and even feel for. I'm much more invested on that arc than even Baylon's arc, cause of the history those two share and the build up shown in Ahsoka.
@coletrain583 I agree! And I think that the the dry and leela example was really good! I definitely think Ezra and Sabine will end up together by the end!
I don't think it was so easy for Sabine to help Ezra in his jump. If you watch the scene again you will notice Sabine's hands trembling. She was straining to help him.
I agree! That’s a really good point!
Same here.
My take was that Sabine handled the training and warrior aspects of being a Jedi, but she was blocked from truly accepting the force. I chalked it up to the fact that she trusted her abilities and it was tough for her to let go and trust something else. That is why when she finally let the force in, it was going to be like turning on a faucet. Luke was the last Jedi from a certain point of view. Ahsoka had left the order, Sabine and Ezra were trained by people who hadn’t completed their Jedi training and others could have been cut off from the force or hiding where yoda couldn’t sense them.
Ya that’s a very good perspective!
I love Sabine bc she is a mandalorian Jedi and has pure beskar armour
Good analysis. I'd say Sabine's ability to use the Force is like a writer overcomint writer's block: a whole lot of frustrating nothing, then suddenly the writer's block is broken through and possibilities come flooding into existence. If she can pull a lightsaber, she can push a man. She believes it, and that's what matters.
Sabine's an artist, and I'm hoping that Season 2 will show her using the Force through her art. Maybe premonitions through spray-painting, or force illusions through perspective trickery...?
I honestly agree, it was rewatching Kanan train Sabine that made me accept that Sabine could use the force, but because of her background and mental state as a mandalorian, she closed herself off. So Kanan already sensing that Sabine keeps herself closed off of course would let him know that while she has a lot of potential, as a jedi he can't and won't force it out of her. It honestly just surprised me that she was able to help launch Ezra with this being her next force attempt after seeing how much of a struggle it was just to get the lightsaber. I am very interested because I know very little about mandalorians and how there was only one mandalorian jedi before it's going to be interesting to see how sabine being the second mandolorian jedi will turn out.
Agreed. Sabine's journey is way more interesting and more realistic.
It really is!
@@mothergoose275 Honestly, her relationship with Ezra Bridger is what's on my mind. Hopefully, they reunite and develop their relationship like we expected to do. Honestly, the two have strong feelings for each other and that needs exploring.
@coletrain583 I see you really care about them getting together! 😂
@@mothergoose275 Pretty much. It.... Moved me. I mean after all that.
I get it! They would make a great couple!
I agree with you whole heartedly. There were many hints throughout Rebels that I noticed since the Ahsoka trailers came out in July. As for Kanan not noticing or training her may be due to her being blocked and being very Mandalorian in their dogmatic views of the Force, not that Sabine is or was who can say before Rebels started. Kanan may not have had the time or luxury due the rebellion and he was still training Ezra. He can't take on another Padawan while still teaching Ezra. Plus he may not have picked up on it because it is not always easy to sense those who do especially with minor abilities as Sabine. Also on a side note I do feel that Sabine might be the key to Thrawn's undoing due to their interest in art and combat.
Ooooh that is a really interesting connection between the 2 of them that I hadn’t considered!
Also don’t forget the way the force worked, at least in Rebels. When it is needed most, it comes to someone. Ezra’s most powerful moments were when he was protecting his family, such as when he rose the giant beast in Season One. Sabine had the same experience of being more connected to the force in a time of need.
That’s a really good point!
I got the impression that she finally shed her mandolorian sensibilities and connected to the force. Her roots are in being a warrior who attacks on the front foot, (which troubled both ahsoka and jarrus). The moment she starts to manipulate the force she is protecting herself and Ezra. This to me kinda sets her future role as an incorruptible force wielder despite the doubts harboured by her master!
As an ‘heir to the empire’ project will not include Luke and Leia; Sabine and Ezra will step into their dynamic.. or so I speculate
Oohhh that’s such a good point! I hadn’t thought of that! But I think you’re right about here shedding her mandalorian sensibilities! I do hope we see Luke and Leia in the heir to the empire movie though!
@@mothergoose275 thanks man! I do love what Filoni is doing, he seems to leave us with plenty to talk about..
As for Luke and Leia; I would like to see them play a major part but I don’t want anymore AI. Sadly I can’t see Disney coming to their senses and recasting. Maybe Filoni is setting up his rebels/mandoverse characters to be on the front line for the new republic in a Thrawn movie project? Less ‘member’ more ‘berry’ ha!
Same, overall the Mandoverse has been amazing! And I completely agree about the CGI and just recast the OT gang. I even hope they bring back the actor for solo I know that wasn’t everyone’s favorite movie but I liked it and believe he deserves another chance
@@mothergoose275 yes mate! I really liked what he did in solo and the same goes for Donald glover as lando..
The twins could easily be written out as Luke disappeared to search for secret Jedi dogging spots and Leia was too busy in the senate enjoying the smell of her own farts haha 😉
Ya I think Luke could be “too busy” starting his school, and Leia would be focused on senate and her son, which I don’t think Ben is old enough yet to have gone to Luke’s school.
I think Sabine's story is the inverse of the Old Republic's Jedi General Meetra Surik, from Kotor 2. Meetra was one of the strongest Jedi and fought valiantly beside Revan against the Mandalorian invasion of the Republic several thousand years before the Galactic Empire came along. During the war a great tragedy happened that Meetra was partly responsible for - at Revan's behest she used a superweapon to wipe out in an instant entire armies and fleets of both Mandalorian and the Republic. Thousands died in an instant and that broke Meetra, broke her so badly she severed her connection to the Force and spent the next several years in exile. After time goes on and she begins to travel with others, forming strong friendships and takes on a mentor of sorts, she reestablishes her connection to the Force to once again become a very powerful Jedi again.
Compare that now to Sabine, which is Meetra's story in reverse. When she was still a child (she's a genius) Sabine created a super weapon at the Imperial Academy, not knowing that the Empire had plans to use it on her own people - on Mandalorians. So she destroyed the machine, destroyed her research, destroyed a good chunk of the Academy and was exiled not just among Mandalorians but by her own family. She was essentially told: "You come back? We'll kill you." And Sabine couldn't have been more than ten or twelve at this point. During her exile though she would meet up with the Ghost crew from Rebels and find herself a new family, seeing Hera and Kanan as surrogate parents and later becoming very close with Ezra. Throughout all of this Sabine is Force Sensitive and we see hints of it throughout Rebels (Bendu, the Owls, Loth Wolves, Darksaber, etc) but she never shows any aptitude for it because - like Meetra - in order to survive she has cut herself off from others.
But just as she is starting to put her life back together and open up tragedy strikes again for her; she returns to Mandalore with the Darksaber to aid her people only to learn that the superweapon she had created as a child was rebuilt by the Empire and used - killing dozens of Mandalorians by incinerating them in their own armor. It's another kick to the face but she eventually rises up and redeems herself, destroying the superweapon and giving the Darksaber to Bo Katan. She splits her time between her surrogate space family (Ezra and the others) and tries to reconnect with her family on Mandalore - that is until the Rebels series finale where (once more) tragedy strikes. Within the span of the week, Kanan is killed and Ezra makes a sacrifice of his own to send both himself and Thrawn far far away with no way to learn of where he went nor if he would ever return.
So Sabine stays on Lothal, keeping a promise to Ezra to watch over his planet and (as pointed out in the video) later Ahsoka shows up to train her. And I suppose she was showing aptitude but - as we've seen numerous times again and again - tragedy strikes in the Night of a Thousand Tears. Mandalore is bombed and her entire clan and family are killed. Pile this on top of everything else that's happened and the girl (who is only in her early 20s by this point) and it all begins to take a toll on her. Ahsoka is her master but more than ever Sabine needs Ezra, who is stranded in an entirely another galaxy - though we did at one point see her hear his voice while she was sleeping, which just goes to show how strong their bond is. Given all the tragedy and recent loss of her family, Ahsoka makes the choice to stop training Sabine which while may have been the correct choice (Sabine is a Mando and she wants revenge) Sabine still sees this as just another person giving up on her, and at this point I don't see how anyone can fault her for thinking that.
Like Meetra she continues her exile up until the events of Ahsoka take place, when at long last we see her drop her walls and open herself up again when she is reunited with Ezra. And when his life is on the line (twice) she is able to access the Force and save him. She still has a lot of issues from her past to deal with, but she has at long last connected with the Force and all those years of trying and failing at her training have paid off. She may be stranded in an entirely different galaxy but she knows Ezra is okay and with Ahsoka by her side she is no longer alone.
I wish the Ahsoka series could have delved a bit more into her backstory and explained how some Force Sensitives can actually cut themselves off from the Force, but what's done is done. I think that Sabine's story is far from over but thankfully her days of being alone and cutting herself off from others has come to an end. Now it's time for her to heal.
I said at the beginning of the series when it was revealed that Sabine had trained with Ahsoka previously, that if she unblocked her connection to the force, she would use it in a big way, and she did. Then I went and rewatched rebels and I found that there were quite a lot of times when Sabine displays abilities that showed she had a force ability without even knowing it. You have to understand Jedi and Mandalorian's are polar opposites so it goes that Sabine would have this psychological block to the force, then when Ahsoka connected with Sabine in episode 7 of Ahsoka and then Sabine trusting in the force more, giving herself over to it, she was able to access it easily once she had opened up to it.
It's not her using the force that bothers me. Its her going from barely being able to pull a lightsaber to being able to push Ezra across a substantial gap in a matter of minutes.
That’s fair! I can definitely see why that bothers people! I’m okay with it just because she did have so much training, but I think a more natural progression through her using the force may have been better!
Dang. Even I was a tad cheesed about the massive force push Sabine did, but the way you laid it out honestly makes sense. Good stuff!
Oh good! Happy to help!
We should not forget that there must be a Mandalorian Jedi - because the Darksaber was destroyed and only a new Jedi can make it. And only way to make a new Darksaber is knowledge by Huyang. Information about which crystal exactly goes into the Darksaber and how it is made. And it happens to be next to Sabine. I wouldn't be surprised if he has parts for it in his drawers.🤓
Oh shoot! I wasn’t even think about that fact that he was probably there when it was built! And another commenter pointed out that Sabine was the rightful owner of the Darksaber! She could totally be the one to rebuild it or make a new one! Great point!
@@mothergoose275 I wouldn't be surprised if she found the black kyber crystal right on Peridea.
That or maybe she finds a clear one and when she connect to it it turns black! I would love to see it!
I agree with most of what you said except for the more potential than Ezra part. That’s not what Kanan said, he said that Sabine is a more capable warrior than Ezra which is true because she’s a mandalorian and a former student at the imperial academy. But that does equate to potential in the force Ezra is more powerful in that regard. Good video though
From a story stand point.. now that they are all Jedi.. so what now? Having all the Rebel or MC characters being a Jedi were kinda redundant imo.. there should be a reason why she needs to become one.
Also kinda hate that Sabine didn't even break a sweat after using the force versus Grogu which is an established force sensitive.. well it is what it is..
I still like Sabine in Rebels which is just a badass Space Punk Mandalorian.. coz we know in all 4 seasons she can handle herself well without any force powers. Coz she doesn't need it imo.
That’s fair! I’m ok with all the main Characters being Jedi, if it were the only show we had ya maybe it would be redundant, but we have other series as well. And I think the grogu thing is probably down to him still being a child, but I could be wrong
BASED and ACCURATE take! Agreed 100%
Thank you😂
Said honestly and beautifully well done
Thank you I really appreciate that!
Well said sir.
Thank you!
thank you, i needed that
Happy to help!
Disney never fails to sh*t on Star Wars wirh every new show they come out with.
Idk I think the shows are were Disney has done the best, maybe not perfect but still amazing
Funnily enough, there is a precedent for this, of those without 'prior force training' but being able to tap into it. KOTOR- There were several individuals that would eventually rebuild the order and each of them were force sensitive, but due to the nature of what they went through, many closed those parts of them off, or didn't know how to properly take that next step. A lot of people giving this crap, I am honestly going to chalk it up to the SJW bullshit that much of Star Wars has become, so many likely have bad faith and scorn for it, but this? This has happened before. Atton Rand, Brianna, Mical, Mira, Bao-Dur, and Visas Marr. This isn't new and honestly? This felt more natural then most of the shit Disney has done.
Ppl just chose to ignore parts of SW lore
@@whateverwhatever4476 I know, like the crossguard lightsaber. That first came out in 2004. Its not a new concept.
@@joemomma2189 yeah, Nobody hates Star Wars like other Star Wars fans
@@whateverwhatever4476 look, the writing for the new sequels was wasted potential, I can get behind that, but the actors weren't bad, and I could feel they were at least apart of the universe they were in. But thats a distinction I made- I blame the writing team, not the actors.
They had so much potential for good story telling and I feel they dropped the sack. But I am a minority here. The designs and special effects? Great. The concepts? Interesting. The execution? Flawed.
The major problem is, the ahsoka series doesn't exist in a vacuum. Its basically a continuation of rebels. A really boring, bad continuation of Rebels. There's absolutely no reason for Sabine to be force sensitive.
To be fair, pretty much none of the Star Wars projects exist in a vacuum😅 even andor exists as a prequel to Rogue one. And like I said I think Dave was leaving small hints in rebels she was force sensitive and is finally paying that off, but I totally get it’s not for every one😃
Finally found a good fan the understands
Thank you! Also I love your pfp! Star Wars republic commando is one of my favorite video games!
No, we do not understand. Does she love Ezra? Does she not? Does she view him as a brother? Or is she really in love him? After all, this, Dave needs to own this stuff. He put the blueprints. So now he has to work with it. Sorry, but the two being platonic just won't work anymore, not after what Sabine had to do.... Just to find ONE person, at the expense of the rest of the galaxy. If anything, it just makes her more interesting as a character, someone who intially brushed off the flirations of one guy, only when slowly getting to know him, she becomes more interested to the point she ends falling for him even harder, yet both were too shy to confess. That's a set up of a powerful relationship.
I agree I think they are going to be a really great couple! I just think it’s going to be a slow burn especially after this seasons ending
@@mothergoose275 I know. You ought to do a video talking about this.
I just might!
@@mothergoose275 Cool. Hope you describe every noticable detail.
Ya I will do my best!
Sabine was so dull and so boring as a protagonist. I felt nothing when she used the force. Even Ahsoka and Ezra felt nothing when it happened lol
I was really excited when I saw her use the force but that’s just a personal preference, but I think in terms of Ahsoka and Ezra they was just too much stuff going on😅 but I agree I think we need some more emotion from these character and I’m really hoping we get it next season
@@mothergoose275 Maybe Ezra and Sabine will reunite. They would need to. Otherwise, all that build up would've been all for nothing.
I agree!
This show is for kids. The action is slow even i could block those lasers. The action is poop. Just my opinion.
That’s fair! I liked the action, especially the fights between ahsoka and Baylan! But I’ll have to go back and look at the laser shots actual speed, it’s not something I was really paying attention too!
It's not terrible but I'd like a more mature approach to star wars like the old republic
I do love the old republic! I’m really curious as to how the dawn of the Jedi movie will turn out! I hope it has a lot of old republic vibes
@@chrisdavis94than you might enjoy the acolyte
Apparently it is supposed to be theost mature star wars live action show yet
I wasn’t looking forward to the acolyte for a while and then I watched an interview with the main lady either producing or directing it and she was asked a lore question, one that i see even hard core Star Wars fans get wrong and she got it right and that completely changed my opinion, this is someone who clearly knows her stuff and I think it’s gonna be great!
Far too many mental gymnastics 😅.
Well what did you think of Sabine and her story?
@@mothergoose275Tbh, I kinda hated it, in fact I don’t see the purpose behind this series. I mean. What was the point? I felt this was such a waste of characters, lacked true plot and character development, unfortunately.
And that’s fair! I don’t think this series will be for everyone. And I do think it’s ending was less of an ending and more of a set up for future shows and movies which can definitely be frustrating but I personally still really enjoyed it!
@@mothergoose275True, and it’s also frustrating that for all that it’s a show called Ashoka, it seemed the titular character was more Sabine than her, the same happened with Obi-Wan’s series. I just feel I can’t recognize or connect with these characters anymore 😢
I had similar thought until I saw someone made a graph showing how much screen time each character got in Kenobi. And obi wan by far had the most which was really nice to see! And I think the world between worlds section really was the highlight of Ahsokas arc here
She's cute. Smart. But terrible, killed many of her people. And also..she wasn't training for 2 weeks bruh.
Ya that is fair, she did get a lot of her people killed. And I wouldn’t be surprised if some of her tech was used in the mandalorian purge
Actually the series established Ashoka was training her long before the series starts. There is no time period mentioned on how long that training was.
Right! It’s never specified for sure but I think we can make a good guess on how long she was training!
Numbers are just not on your side dave dropped the ball and disney is kicking themselves over it damn shame they should have focused on luke
I agree we need more Luke content but what do you mean by numbers aren’t on my side?
Dude it's not our job to understand this stuff. Shouldn't have to deep dive into lore in order to enjoy a show on Disney+
That’s fair! and while I brought up stuff from rebels I tried to mainly focus on just what Ahsoka presented us. Its stated in ahsoka that she had some training with kanan and then she trained with ahsoka for a while. The show tells us where she got her lightsaber, it shows us her training, it shows us her failing repeatedly, it tells us that anyone can use the force it just takes dedication and training. All of this is established in ahsoka so I don’t think you need a deep dive to understand it all. But I agree I do think having an understanding of the lore probably does make for a better viewing experience!
you said maybe not perfect. lol. really... Obi-Wan and Ahsoka are garbage. take a look at Admiral Thrawn he looks like a clown, and he seems way more menace [in rebels] and more clever.
when my daughter watched Thrawn for the first time that
he appeared on this show, my daughter was like wtf.
who wrote this sht
she told me that Thrawn looked more intimidating in rebels.
from his point of view.
in this show, he is a laughable and foolish character
my daughter is 10 years old
and she loves stars war but no this garbage
sorry
This TV series is an endless nonsense
bad writers, lazy script, and very predictable, and so on.
I definitely recognize the flaws these series have had but in my opinion they have still been good! Something we say on the podcast is that “Star Wars is like a restaurant, there’s something on the menu for everyone, but most people aren’t gonna like the whole menu” if that makes sense😅
I personally really liked Thrawn in Ahsoka, I think this series did a great job at showing his tactical genius. His goal was to load up their cargo and escape to the main Star Wars Galaxy without Ahsoka and the gang, while at the same time not expending too many of his limited resources, and besides Ezra he was able to pull off that plan perfectly.
You're in the minority there, sometimes when you bring a character from animation to live action it doesn't come across so well, but it's the same guy playing Thrawn so for me it works. Totally disagree with your last comment, there seems to be penchant for people to hyper critical these days, so to say it's garbage, nowhere near it.