I put one on and it helped a little bit. The real issue is that crappy aluminum steering box. I pushed them and got it exchanged for the steel steering box. Wow what a difference. I reinstalled the synergy steering stabilizer just for good measure. The real fix is the steel steering box. The aluminum box has slop made into it to stop excessive wear. You don't need that slop in the steel one.
No joke if you have a 2020 take it in and get the steering box ordered under warranty and you will not believe the difference. No play what so ever. I thought I was going to go nuts thinking it was me but the all steel box did the trick. Good luck and your welcome.
11/25/2020 I own a 2020 Jeep Gladiator . I called the Jeep dealer and asked about the wandering or Jeep sway, if there were TSB’s or recall. The service writer said yes. I’m bringing it in Friday.
Great install video for an obvious Jeep steering issue. Jeep is in denial about the whole thing, "can't fix a problem if there isn't one" I just installed the Synergy Front Track Bar/Sector Shaft Brace on my 2019 Jeep JLU. First impressions are, the steering is very stable driving down the highway with a gusting crosswind and there is no need to constantly correct steering from bumps in the road.
I installed this fix today. Fairly easy, just took some time, make sure you have the right tools, what they list needs updating, but overall a good unit and it's a very nice quality.
After having my trackbar bushings wear out and getting approved for them to replace under warranty, i’m gonna be looking at the brace and a synergy track bar. It shouldn’t be so trivial to keep a jeep straight. I’ve driven super duty’s, and cummins that have great steering so having a solid axle isn’t an excuse for a jeep.
Good to see someone finally fixed this. I have seen a lot of cool jeeps on the trade in lot for this reason! Shame dodge didn’t get real and correct this! I’ll be sharing this with all the jeep owners I know!
Did you have really bad drifting in your JK? I ask because I have a 4" lift and 35" tires on my JK and it drifts all over the road and no one can tell me why.
It's great you bring this subject up for the JL JT folks. I can vouch for the products, I am currently running full Synergy steering components with the sector shaft on my JK unlimited that has a 3.5 inch lift with 35inch tires. It drives pretty solid in the city and highway and at speeds up to 80mph.
The term “Jeep Sway” is exactly what goes on with the Jeep Gladiator. You have to constantly steer the Jeep, just to keep it in its lane. I talked with the service writer with the dealer, about the TSB’s or recalls with my 2020 Jeep Gladiator. The service writer had me bring the vehicle in, to ensure that it’s a factory problem. Not a fourwheeling problem that damaged my steering. I brought the Gladiator in the day after Thanksgiving for the Jeep Dealer to diagnose. THE SERVICE WRITER AT THE DEALER, SAID THAT THEY ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO ORDER A STEERING GEAR BOX EVERY 7 DAYS ! I’m 8th in line at the Jeep Dealer, to get a steering gear box ordered. After the wait, I’ll be in to get my new steering gear box.
Great video. While I was waiting for my jt that I had ordered, I was ordering the lift and tires and wheels that I wanted for it. I saw an article on this very item. I had it added to the parts I was getting. The jt drove great before the lift was installed, but I still added it because I went with 37's and it worked out great, it drives true at all speeds and conditions.
The music was reminiscent to a 80’s movie where a kid is training in the gym to fight a bully in a later scene lol. Sounded like Dokken. Jeep part is probably ok. I dunno, gonna go watch No Retreat, No Surrender now. Love the positional marking of the bolts...nice touch
It sounds exactly like when I Didn’t know how to adjust the Track bar that I installed… I was having the same issues.. Until I got the chassis squared up.. and properly adjusted the Steering linkage..problem solved.. not to mention the difference in tire wear….👍
Thanks for the video. This is exactly the same problem i have with my 2019 JL. Parts are ordered and I will update once the install is complete. Thanks again!
@@simoneales2568go to your dealer and change your steering box. If you have an aluminium steering box they will swap it to steel if you are under warranty
use and love Synergy's stuff, this one looks like they hit it out of the park! wish you showed the sector shaft connection more, but it looks like this part kills 2 rabbits with one stone! reinforcing both, the sector shaft and the trac bar bracket! im already looking it up for mine! thx for sharing.
So this is not for a stock JLU Sport? I've had the steering issue since I took delivery. It feels like excessive dead zone in the steering. You get used to it over time but when you drive it after driving something else it feels really bad and you have to relearn how to steer it. My wife avoids driving it at all because of it.
Looks like a nice part to put on even if you don't have the problem. I have a 2018 JL Rubicon 3" lift and 35's and I've been lucky with no steering issues. I do have an adjustable front track bar and I heard that helps as well. It looks like this Jeep still has the stock fixed track bar.
htweelz in our experience it’s not the track bar but the frame that is flexing. This should stiffen that up and prevent the “wander”. Hit us up if you ever need it!
@@Exodus4x4 I can believe it. They are trying to build them as light as possible to handle a certain amount of stress. Of course we as Jeep owners say well we are going to put 40's, take it on trails and beat the hell out of it. Thank goodness for a healthy aftermarket for these vehicles. There are lots of things on my list for my Jeep and this did get added. Oh and I subscribed as well. :)
I have a 2018 JLU and put a 2" spacer lift on with Rubicon takeoff wheels and tires (slightly larger than the sport comes with). It seems that the steering is looser now than when it was off the lot. I now have 45k miles. Would this product help or is there something else I should be looking at?
Why hasn't keep done a recall on this??? That's crazy that a car company hasn't stepped in and fixed this issue. Instead customers are left spending money out of pocket themselves. Was really considering a Jeep Wrangler Sahara but after hearing this. I'm not so sure I want to go thru all that.
They have a recall built to my knowledge, it isn’t the fix. It’s just a placebo to make you feel like they care. I honestly wouldn’t let it deter you from buying a JL or JT.
I just bought a 2020 JL instead of a 4Runner. I have 732 miles on it and hate the steering I’ve almost wrecked it a half dozen times. I really hope your fix works because I don’t have the patience to deal with dealer bs. My 19 Raptor drives glued to the road, then I drive the JL and pray,
I test drove a Gladiator on Friday and I did notice the steering was very "Soft" and required more movement to keep centered than I'm used to in my F150. I really really want the Gladiator, but I'm not sure if this is a major issue or not. It's a lot of money to spend being a test monkey for Jeep.
Great video. My stock JlU has excessive play in the steering wheel. When parked and engine running, I can move the wheel several inches without the tires moving. How would that be attributed to the frame flexing when the vehicle isn’t even in motion? I think this could help with the wandering issue but not the excessive play in the steering wheel issue.
John Yanopolous I’m 99% sure my issue has to do with the steering box or electronic assist. When driving, I can turn the wheel left and right a couple inches and the Jeep will continue driving straight at all speeds. I had someone moving the wheel while I checked under the hood. The intermediate shaft response was spot on. The response on the other side of the steering box was not. The pitman arm showed no movement for the first couple inches of steering wheel input. I will do a test and see if the steering box has movement on the frame while the wheel is turned to rule that out.
I have this issue with my 2018 JLU sport. My local Jeep dealership performed the recall. Once I picked up the Jeep I went to Joshua tree (Berdoo canyon) and the trackbar which they weld back on the frame... well it breaks off the frame and nearly flipped in the highway. The Jeep is back at the same dealership. The frame bracket are slipt/broken. Idk what to do ?
I've only had my JT Rubicon less than a month, and it has been a big worry of mine, especially since Orlando has a lot of highway construction now with concrete divider walls and narrow lanes. The last thing I want to do if drift into one of those in a brand new $58k vehicle. I'd heard jeeps in general will have looser steering, but after seeing the videos from others, and now this part fixing the issue, I'm thinking it was just the sales guy trying to keep me from getting cold feet.
NOTED!! Thanks for this upload. Im at just over 1k miles in my JTR and havent experienced this issue yet thankfully. I have seen @wizzard005 post about it and hoping its just a rarity as opposed to an expectation. I guess only time will tell. Is the sector bracket an acceptable upgrade for stock suspension configuration or just a lifted applications?
@@Exodus4x4 Im gonna come check yall out next time im out that way visiting my buddy Brad. He owns the Comal Crawfish company down the road from you. Thanks again!
I would call Synergy and ask them. They are located in San Luis Obispo and can have it installed in the Poly Performance building, or recommend another shop.
Will this kit work no matter who's (what name brand) track bar is currently installed? I have a teraflex set up...just making sure before I order it because...I really need it...getting dizzy.
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Don't know if I'm wrong or not but it seems to me it puts a drag on the steering box shaft keeping the steering from being so sensitive. That's what you hydraulic assist did as well. It added more resistance to the steering thus less wandering. Am I right or completely wrong?
The track bar brace stiffens the frame supporting the gearbox, which seems to be the issue. Too much flex in the frame. Yes adding hydro-assist stiffens the steering because the ram doesn’t allow the steering to “wander”.
@@Exodus4x4 Took it in and they said they were going to order parts. I'll take it back to have them installed under warranty. Can't hurt. Definitely going to add the Synergy brace however.
What does this mean exactly? Stock track bar needs 2" of bump stop, does that mean I would loose 2" of wheel travel? "If using the stock front track bar, a minimum 2” of bump stop spacing is required."
hey Tony i just got a 13 rubicon and drove it home on the high way and was white knuckle driving, i probably looked like i was drunk. is that the same thing that happens to your jl?
Just got a 2014 rubicon have 4’inch rough country lift and 35” tires noticed it’s terrible over 45mph any movement side to side and I fight to keep it straight have to keep my hands on the wheel at all times or it’s going off... would this be the way to go?
I have a 2018 JLUR with the same steering issue. Running 35's with no lift. Wondering if this would fix the issue even though I have no lift and running factory sway bar and suspension?? PLEASE HELP!!!
Most people that install this part report back that it does in stiffen up the steering. I can’t guarantee it’ll fix your problem since I don’t know your Jeep personally, but I’d bet you’ll see huge difference.
Hello boss, I recently bought Jeep JL 2018, 78000 kms on it. It has 33’ tires, 2.5 inch skyjack lift kit. It makes clunk sound on slow big bumps mostly on the turns.My Drag link was having little play I have change it but still it makes the same sound. Technicians had taken a look on it but he was unable to find any thing.there’s nothing loose even. What can u suggest. Thnks
I put a 3" FabTech lift, 295/60/20s and upgraded the shocks and steering stabilizer on my wife's Jeep and there is still a lot of play in the steering. I'm getting ready to upgrade the control arms, track bar and panhard bar. It sounds like this part would be beneficial as well to help stiffen up the suspension. Is this something you would recommend for a 2020 Wrangler JL 4 door with this lift and tire combination?
I ended up upgrading the drag link, tie rod, put adjustable track bars on the front & rear and installed a sector shaft brace. I put the Steer Smarts parts on mine and it took care of the issue.
Thanks for the vid. I have a JT, stock, and I’ve noticed the wandering. I plan on doing a Teraflex 1 1/2” level for the front, this should help out, correct?
Have you ever checked your tire pressure? They come from the factory with about 45 pounds in them. Drop it to 32 and most of your problem will go away. Yes your tire pressure light will come on because it's set at 37 but it will drive a million times better. Hope that helps.
John Yanopolous thanks for your comment. Actually there is video by several JL and JT owners that shows the frame flexing at the gear box. Judging by the other comments you made and then erased, it seems you have an agenda here. Do everyone a favor and move on.
John Yanopolous, not sure what you s as re talking about. My friend did a lift with new brackets to drop the arms, track at relocation bracket, dropped pitman arm and alignment and still has the issue.
John Yanopolous I think you’re not getting the issue. A lot of the JT and JL owners are having this issue stock off the dealer lot with no lift. That’s why they’re complaining. The guys with lifts aren’t bitching at Jeep, they know with a lift there’s issues. But this wondering issue is from a stock truck.
So just to clarify; the slop in the steering that I've been hearing about was due to some sort of flex in the frame in the area of front steering components? Nearly all of the online car channels that have a vested interest In hyping the new jeep products have stated that this slop in the steering wheel was designed for reasons they described as compensating for off road terrain driving or something like that. This must all be marketing BS then. Do you know if this new component itself will begin to wear loose and then gradually allow that steering wheel slop to come back? Also: does installing this component require a wheel alignment after installation? (for us do it yourselfers)
Actually, the bronze bushing and special nut that pair with the sector shaft could eventually wear out, just like any other bushing or bearing. Especially if you don't keep it clean and well greased. There are no seals or dust boots. I have this setup in a box and will be installing in place of my Rusty's track bar brace. One thing I noted while inspecting the parts (I'm a machinist & fabricator) is that there is more play in the bushing/nut set than I expected, I'd say about .0005"--pretty good for this application.
@@ethanturner5567 Yea I was just wondering outloud. I've been looking at both the Jeep Gladiator and the Toyota off road truck. I drive a toyota now but I'm toying with the idea of maybe taking a jeep for a test drive first. The slop in steering is the only thing that had me concerned.
Do you own a JL? Many JL owners (not all) are experiencing this and by the time they get to this product they’ve exhausted all means of remedying the problem.
I have a 2008 jku Rubicon. And also have psc big bore kit. Wondering actually got worse. Contacted psc and got no response. Think the bracket for the jk could help this out?
This has been a problem with Jeeps forever. But what's amazing is they have not designed a fix from Jeep. No they say good win it leaves, that's good . Let the buyer worry with it down the road.
I have 2-3" of play in my 2018 jl steering and have retorqued all bolts and taken it to dealer twice with no solution. What if the electric steering box is the main culprit like most people believe?
We have a lot of customers that have installed this and had great success. The real problem is the frame itself flexes where the steering gear box mounts. This will stiffen that up and reduce play in the steering in return.
SteerSmarts JK trackbar reinforcement bracket grinds on the coil constantly, a waste of time and money, just installed on my 2016 JKU, and its sitting due to direct contact with the coil, until I get it off. Still have stock coil buckets and seat, running 4" lift. Curious if the Synergy reinforcement bracket does the same. They probably work great on rigs with coil overs, but thats not in the description or fine print of the part. Class action suit exists now for that JL/JL bump steer issue.
maybe the Synergy track bar bracket is designed better. On the SteerSmarts site you can compare the JK vs JL trackbar bracket and see where they cut off the coil facing metal so it does not contact the coil, which tells me they know about the issue with the JK track bar bracket. Northridge 4x4 also stated they received complaints about it.
Chrysler needs to fix this shit Period! Iv owned numerous wranglers throughout my life and until I bought the JK back in 07 the handling went to shit! With the technology of today your telling me they cannot address this major liability? You pay 60k but still handles like a log wagon? 😳 maybe we all should lawyer up and sue Chrysler. I broke the track bar bracket on my jeep JK before, glad I was down the street from my house ... it was a fun ride!! Always pay attention to your welds! If you see rust it’s usually a crack!
That’s a great question. I don’t know why it wouldn’t but to be safe, give Synergy a call and verify. I know in the past there were some issues with them working with some other brand of track bars
And here I thought these JL/JT guys were a-holes for not waving, they were too busy holding onto their steering wheel!
Too good!
Sell the idea to Jeep, so they can fix all of ours under recall, win win
I put one on and it helped a little bit. The real issue is that crappy aluminum steering box. I pushed them and got it exchanged for the steel steering box. Wow what a difference. I reinstalled the synergy steering stabilizer just for good measure. The real fix is the steel steering box. The aluminum box has slop made into it to stop excessive wear. You don't need that slop in the steel one.
Took my JT 2020 to Jeep 3 days ago. They got a fix New steering box on made of steel and it’s perfect. No cost to me at all.
No joke if you have a 2020 take it in and get the steering box ordered under warranty and you will not believe the difference. No play what so ever. I thought I was going to go nuts thinking it was me but the all steel box did the trick. Good luck and your welcome.
11/25/2020 I own a 2020 Jeep Gladiator . I called the Jeep dealer and asked about the wandering or Jeep sway, if there were TSB’s or recall. The service writer said yes. I’m bringing it in Friday.
Great install video for an obvious Jeep steering issue. Jeep is in denial about the whole thing, "can't fix a problem if there isn't one" I just installed the Synergy Front Track Bar/Sector Shaft Brace on my 2019 Jeep JLU. First impressions are, the steering is very stable driving down the highway with a gusting crosswind and there is no need to constantly correct steering from bumps in the road.
Thanks for your feedback on this. It is pretty sad that Jeep won’t own up to this, but I’m not surprised.
David Jaski both
Did the synergy bracket really change up/solve the issue of the steering play and walking of the steering left/right??
I installed this fix today. Fairly easy, just took some time, make sure you have the right tools, what they list needs updating, but overall a good unit and it's a very nice quality.
I have a 2018 JL unlimited sports s which one of my buying? It was kind of confusing on the website.
After having my trackbar bushings wear out and getting approved for them to replace under warranty, i’m gonna be looking at the brace and a synergy track bar. It shouldn’t be so trivial to keep a jeep straight. I’ve driven super duty’s, and cummins that have great steering so having a solid axle isn’t an excuse for a jeep.
Did this today in my 2020 JL helps out.
Thanks for putting this together. I hate the drift in my JT.
This is why I am having you guys build my jk,I can't wait
Good to see someone finally fixed this. I have seen a lot of cool jeeps on the trade in lot for this reason! Shame dodge didn’t get real and correct this! I’ll be sharing this with all the jeep owners I know!
Thanks!
I've got a JK and I've got the Synergy track bar/sector shaft brace. It's needed and a great upgrade.
Did you have really bad drifting in your JK? I ask because I have a 4" lift and 35" tires on my JK and it drifts all over the road and no one can tell me why.
Peace Unity Progress I’ve got a 4” lift and 35’s too. The only time I had drifting was when my shocks were bad
It's great you bring this subject up for the JL JT folks. I can vouch for the products, I am currently running full Synergy steering components with the sector shaft on my JK unlimited that has a 3.5 inch lift with 35inch tires. It drives pretty solid in the city and highway and at speeds up to 80mph.
I have no lift but am running 34 inch tires on my JT. i plan to install the steering stabilizer by Teraflex. Would i also need this to cure drifting?
@@dqsimpson5331 Steering stabilizer is for bumps shock to not travel to your steering whereas this is to remove that play in your steering
The term “Jeep Sway” is exactly what goes on with the Jeep Gladiator. You have to constantly steer the Jeep, just to keep it in its lane. I talked with the service writer with the dealer, about the TSB’s or recalls with my 2020 Jeep Gladiator. The service writer had me bring the vehicle in, to ensure that it’s a factory problem. Not a fourwheeling problem that damaged my steering. I brought the Gladiator in the day after Thanksgiving for the Jeep Dealer to diagnose. THE SERVICE WRITER AT THE DEALER, SAID THAT THEY ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO ORDER A STEERING GEAR BOX EVERY 7 DAYS ! I’m 8th in line at the Jeep Dealer, to get a steering gear box ordered. After the wait, I’ll be in to get my new steering gear box.
I just bought my 21 glad Rubicon its all over the rd, 18k miles ,calling dealer on monday
You guys are awesome. I just bought a 2020 Rubicon and noticed some steering wandering and now I’m definitely gonna buy this part! Thank you!!!
Did you buy it? If so, how has it helped?
@@scraphaulin I never ended up buying it. It doesn’t have that bad of a steering issue so far and I’ll probably buy it once I install a lift kit.
@@mike_paschos thanks for the reply
Great video. While I was waiting for my jt that I had ordered, I was ordering the lift and tires and wheels that I wanted for it. I saw an article on this very item. I had it added to the parts I was getting. The jt drove great before the lift was installed, but I still added it because I went with 37's and it worked out great, it drives true at all speeds and conditions.
Awesome, thanks for sharing your experience!
The music was reminiscent to a 80’s movie where a kid is training in the gym to fight a bully in a later scene lol. Sounded like Dokken. Jeep part is probably ok. I dunno, gonna go watch No Retreat, No Surrender now. Love the positional marking of the bolts...nice touch
Lol, thanks
It sounds exactly like when I
Didn’t know how to adjust the
Track bar that I installed…
I was having the same issues..
Until I got the chassis squared up.. and properly adjusted the
Steering linkage..problem solved.. not to mention the difference in tire wear….👍
It makes a huge difference. Like ginormous. Ya. 💪
That’s a cool idea good stuff nice looking Jeep 🚙 as always be safe
Thanks for the video. This is exactly the same problem i have with my 2019 JL. Parts are ordered and I will update once the install is complete. Thanks again!
I have same issue...did it work?
@@simoneales2568go to your dealer and change your steering box. If you have an aluminium steering box they will swap it to steel if you are under warranty
use and love Synergy's stuff, this one looks like they hit it out of the park! wish you showed the sector shaft connection more, but it looks like this part kills 2 rabbits with one stone! reinforcing both, the sector shaft and the trac bar bracket! im already looking it up for mine! thx for sharing.
So would you say this is for JTs that have been lifted, or would it be beneficial for a stock JT? THANKS 👍 GREAT VIDEO!!!
Well done, thanks for the informative video. Looks like a solid part! I'll put it on the to-do list and hit you up when I'm ready for it.
Glad we could help and let us know when you’re ready!
So this is not for a stock JLU Sport? I've had the steering issue since I took delivery. It feels like excessive dead zone in the steering. You get used to it over time but when you drive it after driving something else it feels really bad and you have to relearn how to steer it. My wife avoids driving it at all because of it.
Terry Waters yeah it’s unfortunate, but you’ll need at least 2” of bumpstop to avoid interference
They had problems with the steering box on the jl’s so they loosened the steering gear box. You can try tightening it the steering box, it helps a lot
Wow I knew there was something wrong with my jl same simtomps thank u guys!!
I’m gonna need to know what that music is… gonna listen to it every time I’m under the Jeep.
Looks like a nice part to put on even if you don't have the problem. I have a 2018 JL Rubicon 3" lift and 35's and I've been lucky with no steering issues. I do have an adjustable front track bar and I heard that helps as well. It looks like this Jeep still has the stock fixed track bar.
htweelz in our experience it’s not the track bar but the frame that is flexing. This should stiffen that up and prevent the “wander”. Hit us up if you ever need it!
@@Exodus4x4 I can believe it. They are trying to build them as light as possible to handle a certain amount of stress. Of course we as Jeep owners say well we are going to put 40's, take it on trails and beat the hell out of it. Thank goodness for a healthy aftermarket for these vehicles. There are lots of things on my list for my Jeep and this did get added. Oh and I subscribed as well. :)
Thanks, glad we could help!
Again please what it’s the name of the part and where can I get it?
Thank you this video is a saver
Great news! Will the new bracket work(eliminate the wandering) with a non-lifted stock wheels JL Wrangler two door?
I have a 2018 JLU and put a 2" spacer lift on with Rubicon takeoff wheels and tires (slightly larger than the sport comes with). It seems that the steering is looser now than when it was off the lot. I now have 45k miles. Would this product help or is there something else I should be looking at?
Definitely worth trying
Jeep needs to do a recall and upgrade. My Gladiator wanders for two reasons - likely this poor mount and the backlash in the steering box.
KILLER VID EXODUS!!!!!!
Great Product Dave!
ya Dave, you will be getting my order shortly, i like the looks of this one A LOT!
Why hasn't keep done a recall on this??? That's crazy that a car company hasn't stepped in and fixed this issue. Instead customers are left spending money out of pocket themselves. Was really considering a Jeep Wrangler Sahara but after hearing this. I'm not so sure I want to go thru all that.
They have a recall built to my knowledge, it isn’t the fix. It’s just a placebo to make you feel like they care. I honestly wouldn’t let it deter you from buying a JL or JT.
I just bought a 2020 JL instead of a 4Runner. I have 732 miles on it and hate the steering I’ve almost wrecked it a half dozen times. I really hope your fix works because I don’t have the patience to deal with dealer bs. My 19 Raptor drives glued to the road, then I drive the JL and pray,
The thing is you need to swap the axle housing, shaft, drag link, tie rod, track bar, arm, bushing, suspension, pretty much everything under your jl
Lol, pretty much!🤣🤣
I saw a video how to tighten up the steering box. Fixed the sloppiness.
I test drove a Gladiator on Friday and I did notice the steering was very "Soft" and required more movement to keep centered than I'm used to in my F150. I really really want the Gladiator, but I'm not sure if this is a major issue or not. It's a lot of money to spend being a test monkey for Jeep.
Just about every person has reporters back that this solved the issue. I wouldn’t sweat it.
Exodus 4x4 but can you put this on a stock JT Rubicon?????????? Thank you! Tell me what I need & I’ll buy!
Great video. My stock JlU has excessive play in the steering wheel. When parked and engine running, I can move the wheel several inches without the tires moving. How would that be attributed to the frame flexing when the vehicle isn’t even in motion? I think this could help with the wandering issue but not the excessive play in the steering wheel issue.
The excessive play is probably due to the frame flex. I would try this out.
John Yanopolous I’m 99% sure my issue has to do with the steering box or electronic assist. When driving, I can turn the wheel left and right a couple inches and the Jeep will continue driving straight at all speeds. I had someone moving the wheel while I checked under the hood. The intermediate shaft response was spot on. The response on the other side of the steering box was not. The pitman arm showed no movement for the first couple inches of steering wheel input. I will do a test and see if the steering box has movement on the frame while the wheel is turned to rule that out.
Good video! I am going to try it, thanks.
Looks like it works. How much is the part and how long did it take to install?
Jeff Hamel this part retails for $200 on our website and the install time really depends on you. Shouldn’t take more than a couple hours though.
www.exodusjeeps.com/JLJT-Front-Track-Bar-Sector-Shaft-Brace-18-WranglerGladiator-Synergy-MFG_p_3660.html
I have this issue with my 2018 JLU sport. My local Jeep dealership performed the recall. Once I picked up the Jeep I went to Joshua tree (Berdoo canyon) and the trackbar which they weld back on the frame... well it breaks off the frame and nearly flipped in the highway. The Jeep is back at the same dealership. The frame bracket are slipt/broken. Idk what to do ?
Holy cow are yall in New Braunfels? I recognize 337 anywhere.
Yep!
@@Exodus4x4 Wow what a coincidence. Just got my JT from Bluebonnet today, you can be sure I'll be stopping by soon!
I've only had my JT Rubicon less than a month, and it has been a big worry of mine, especially since Orlando has a lot of highway construction now with concrete divider walls and narrow lanes. The last thing I want to do if drift into one of those in a brand new $58k vehicle. I'd heard jeeps in general will have looser steering, but after seeing the videos from others, and now this part fixing the issue, I'm thinking it was just the sales guy trying to keep me from getting cold feet.
Mine is the same way! JT Rubicon! 😡😡 It seems like you need a lift tho. 🤷🏻♂️
Change your steering box to steel. The dealer will do it under warranty
NOTED!! Thanks for this upload. Im at just over 1k miles in my JTR and havent experienced this issue yet thankfully. I have seen @wizzard005 post about it and hoping its just a rarity as opposed to an expectation. I guess only time will tell.
Is the sector bracket an acceptable upgrade for stock suspension configuration or just a lifted applications?
This is something you can definitely add to a stock vehicle if you are experiencing the same effects out customers was having.
@@Exodus4x4 Im gonna come check yall out next time im out that way visiting my buddy Brad. He owns the Comal Crawfish company down the road from you. Thanks again!
Mine did it stock and now a little worse with 37s, I'm definitely going to give it a try.
john hartel awesome man, looking forward to it!
Jeff Jensen let me know how it goes and if it helps you out!
Much need it product any info about shops in southern Cali that can do the job ?
I would call Synergy and ask them. They are located in San Luis Obispo and can have it installed in the Poly Performance building, or recommend another shop.
4wparts has them and will install them, I just ordered mine, ya I live in cali too
A ti i live in Downey California can you give me the info of the place please, thanks for the response
@@DJAllex231 off-road evolution
1837 W Commonwealth Ave, Fullerton, CA 92833
Will this kit work no matter who's (what name brand) track bar is currently installed? I have a teraflex set up...just making sure before I order it because...I really need it...getting dizzy.
Don't know if I'm wrong or not but it seems to me it puts a drag on the steering box shaft keeping the steering from being so sensitive. That's what you hydraulic assist did as well. It added more resistance to the steering thus less wandering. Am I right or completely wrong?
The track bar brace stiffens the frame supporting the gearbox, which seems to be the issue. Too much flex in the frame. Yes adding hydro-assist stiffens the steering because the ram doesn’t allow the steering to “wander”.
Will the brace worth with another brand track bar? Because the Rancho track bar is cheaper.
It’ll work with just about any track bar.
So the TSB is pretty much a waste of time or what? I'm supposed to take mine in to the dealer tomorrow for the TSB on the steering box.
Just saw this. This video old though, long before the TSB. That is the ultimate fix and you should be able to tell an amazing difference
@@Exodus4x4 Took it in and they said they were going to order parts. I'll take it back to have them installed under warranty. Can't hurt. Definitely going to add the Synergy brace however.
Could this still be used on a factory stock JL having the same problems?
Does this only work if the Jeep is lifted? Also will it work on a gladiator rubicon?
What does this mean exactly? Stock track bar needs 2" of bump stop, does that mean I would loose 2" of wheel travel?
"If using the stock front track bar, a minimum 2” of bump stop spacing is required."
Yes, thats what that means. www.synergymfg.com/synergy-jeep-jk-jl-snap-lock-bump-stop-spacer-system.html
Description says you need 2” bump stop with factory track bar. Is that necessary? Why?
Interference at full bump without a 2” lift.
Thanks for the video!! I’m ordering it right now. Dealer keeps saying there’s nothing wrong with it!! BS!!
hey Tony i just got a 13 rubicon and drove it home on the high way and was white knuckle driving, i probably looked like i was drunk. is that the same thing that happens to your jl?
Is this needed if you do the hydraulic assistance and the big bore steering kit?
Just got a 2014 rubicon have 4’inch rough country lift and 35” tires noticed it’s terrible over 45mph any movement side to side and I fight to keep it straight have to keep my hands on the wheel at all times or it’s going off... would this be the way to go?
I have a 2018 JLUR with the same steering issue. Running 35's with no lift. Wondering if this would fix the issue even though I have no lift and running factory sway bar and suspension?? PLEASE HELP!!!
This piece will solve the problem of the loose steering wheel or just the problem that pulls to the right?
Most people that install this part report back that it does in stiffen up the steering. I can’t guarantee it’ll fix your problem since I don’t know your Jeep personally, but I’d bet you’ll see huge difference.
The problem is due to the frame flexing some. Wish I had the video link. I’m sure this would help a ton.
@@matthewmorgan1263 can you find the video? That would help alot
Hello boss, I recently bought Jeep JL 2018, 78000 kms on it. It has 33’ tires, 2.5 inch skyjack lift kit. It makes clunk sound on slow big bumps mostly on the turns.My Drag link was having little play I have change it but still it makes the same sound. Technicians had taken a look on it but he was unable to find any thing.there’s nothing loose even. What can u suggest.
Thnks
I've never had this issue in my 2020 JLU. Is this something that was fixed by Jeep for the 2020 models?
There’s a TSB out right now to fix the steering gear box.
I put a 3" FabTech lift, 295/60/20s and upgraded the shocks and steering stabilizer on my wife's Jeep and there is still a lot of play in the steering. I'm getting ready to upgrade the control arms, track bar and panhard bar. It sounds like this part would be beneficial as well to help stiffen up the suspension. Is this something you would recommend for a 2020 Wrangler JL 4 door with this lift and tire combination?
Have you upgraded the steering box from aluminium to cast iron? The dealer will do it for free
I ended up upgrading the drag link, tie rod, put adjustable track bars on the front & rear and installed a sector shaft brace. I put the Steer Smarts parts on mine and it took care of the issue.
Was that put on with a stock trackbar? Would it work better with synergy adjustable trackbar?
The Synergy front JL/JT trackbar compliments this brace nicely 👌🏽
@@daveschlossberg5138 How much is it to put on that hydro steering, which is bester
Which hydro steering set up A ti ?
@@daveschlossberg5138 any for a jlu Rubicon 2018, or the obese for your gladiator
Thanks for the vid. I have a JT, stock, and I’ve noticed the wandering. I plan on doing a Teraflex 1 1/2” level for the front, this should help out, correct?
Yeah it seems to be working for most people. It never hurts to beef up the steering components anyways!
Have you ever checked your tire pressure? They come from the factory with about 45 pounds in them. Drop it to 32 and most of your problem will go away. Yes your tire pressure light will come on because it's set at 37 but it will drive a million times better. Hope that helps.
John Yanopolous thanks for your comment. Actually there is video by several JL and JT owners that shows the frame flexing at the gear box. Judging by the other comments you made and then erased, it seems you have an agenda here. Do everyone a favor and move on.
John Yanopolous, not sure what you s as re talking about. My friend did a lift with new brackets to drop the arms, track at relocation bracket, dropped pitman arm and alignment and still has the issue.
John Yanopolous I think you’re not getting the issue. A lot of the JT and JL owners are having this issue stock off the dealer lot with no lift. That’s why they’re complaining. The guys with lifts aren’t bitching at Jeep, they know with a lift there’s issues. But this wondering issue is from a stock truck.
I have a JL with Rubicon Springs/Struts, will this work for my Jeep?
Needs a 2” lift!
They say out of stock.... Do you have any on hand at your shop?
I do but they’re all sold to future builds! I do have an order in with Synergy to restock.
Dang I was going to see if you could install that when you do my regear next week. But I will keep a look out for when you restock then.
I’ll see if we can spare one.
Which version am I supposed to buy????
Hello cN that fit on 2013JK as well good product
Nasser Al-Ghamdi we sell one for the JK as well!
@@Exodus4x4 plz link to your site
www.exodusjeeps.com/JK-Front-Track-Bar-Brace-Sector-Shaft-Brace-Kit-07-18-JKJKU-Synergy-MFG_p_3659.html
So just to clarify; the slop in the steering that I've been hearing about was due to some sort of flex in the frame in the area of front steering components? Nearly all of the online car channels that have a vested interest In hyping the new jeep products have stated that this slop in the steering wheel was designed for reasons they described as compensating for off road terrain driving or something like that. This must all be marketing BS then.
Do you know if this new component itself will begin to wear loose and then gradually allow that steering wheel slop to come back? Also: does installing this component require a wheel alignment after installation? (for us do it yourselfers)
TIM MONTANO no it will NOT wear and allow for slop.
Actually, the bronze bushing and special nut that pair with the sector shaft could eventually wear out, just like any other bushing or bearing. Especially if you don't keep it clean and well greased. There are no seals or dust boots. I have this setup in a box and will be installing in place of my Rusty's track bar brace. One thing I noted while inspecting the parts (I'm a machinist & fabricator) is that there is more play in the bushing/nut set than I expected, I'd say about .0005"--pretty good for this application.
@@ethanturner5567 Yea I was just wondering outloud. I've been looking at both the Jeep Gladiator and the Toyota off road truck. I drive a toyota now but I'm toying with the idea of maybe taking a jeep for a test drive first. The slop in steering is the only thing that had me concerned.
@@MrTjmk, I have an '18 JLUR and have had zero issues since purchased new.
Does it work on the JK??? Since my lift it drifts a lot I tell the shop and no one knows the answer
What if you have this issue on a gladiator that has not been lifted. Will this product still work?
Sorry but the extra beef requires at least a couple inches of lift
@@Exodus4x4 Any suggestions on something else that I can do.
Sorry I don’t, and it doesn’t look like Jeep is interested in fixing the issue.
dmr1152 so frustrating ! I’m going to get rid of mine! Crazzzzzy!
Do you happen to know if there is a version of this for a JK?
There is
Does anyone run thinner not lager tires... Cant even find 17x7 17x7.5 steels... What the hell fella.
Great product. But bumps on a highway is bump steer. (Air pressure)
Do you own a JL? Many JL owners (not all) are experiencing this and by the time they get to this product they’ve exhausted all means of remedying the problem.
Exodus Jeeps yea I have a new rubi on 37s and a sport s on 35s. Fortunately they’re fine. But I’m going to instal this bracket on my rubi anyhow
So the steering issue is when u put bigger tires on???
Not always but that’s where it can start
Would like to know where I can buy that
I have a 2008 jku Rubicon. And also have psc big bore kit. Wondering actually got worse. Contacted psc and got no response. Think the bracket for the jk could help this out?
No I don’t. Your caster at 4*?
@@Exodus4x4 the pcs instructions i got said to have it around 6 to 7
For a D44? No, 6-7* for a D60.
@@Exodus4x4 okay yea I'm not there yet to run dana 60s. Also have enough saved. I even asked psc about my setup and they said 6 to 7
This has been a problem with Jeeps forever. But what's amazing is they have not designed a fix from Jeep. No they say good win it leaves, that's good . Let the buyer worry with it down the road.
Will this effect death wobble?
Do y'all make it for a TJ
Hi does this fit a right hand drive (eurospec) jl Rubicon in Australia? Thanks.
Do you know when they will be back in stock?
Not really. Got plenty on backorder and I’m hoping in the next 2 weeks.
stop with the music. Great vid. Don't need 80's rock. Sorry for the neg comment.
Before video should have been done. I have a 3.5" lift and mine goes down the road just fine.
I have 2-3" of play in my 2018 jl steering and have retorqued all bolts and taken it to dealer twice with no solution. What if the electric steering box is the main culprit like most people believe?
We have a lot of customers that have installed this and had great success. The real problem is the frame itself flexes where the steering gear box mounts. This will stiffen that up and reduce play in the steering in return.
Why are so many people pushing this band aid of a fix to the world like they are the experts.
where would i buy this
Good video with obnoxious sound track id much rather hear the wrench turning.
Anything for an 09 wrangler jk?
SteerSmarts JK trackbar reinforcement bracket grinds on the coil constantly, a waste of time and money, just installed on my 2016 JKU, and its sitting due to direct contact with the coil, until I get it off. Still have stock coil buckets and seat, running 4" lift. Curious if the Synergy reinforcement bracket does the same. They probably work great on rigs with coil overs, but thats not in the description or fine print of the part.
Class action suit exists now for that JL/JL bump steer issue.
We’ve installed a bunch on JK’s and JL’s and haven’t seen that.
maybe the Synergy track bar bracket is designed better. On the SteerSmarts site you can compare the JK vs JL trackbar bracket and see where they cut off the coil facing metal so it does not contact the coil, which tells me they know about the issue with the JK track bar bracket. Northridge 4x4 also stated they received complaints about it.
What do you expect from a Jeep! I have owned 3 Jeeps
Would you recommend this for a stock Jeep JL or one that has aftermarket parts already added?
Sure, you can add it to a stock JL/JT.
Actually I take that back, added bumpstop would be required for this.
Our stock JL walked like crazy. And it’s worse now with the lift and bigger tires. Can not wait to get this on our Jeep.
Where does the bump stop go?
Samuel A Muñoz same place it is now. They advise a minimum of 2” of lift and bumpstop accordingly to mit gate any contact with the added parts.
Chrysler needs to fix this shit Period! Iv owned numerous wranglers throughout my life and until I bought the JK back in 07 the handling went to shit! With the technology of today your telling me they cannot address this major liability? You pay 60k but still handles like a log wagon? 😳 maybe we all should lawyer up and sue Chrysler. I broke the track bar bracket on my jeep JK before, glad I was down the street from my house ... it was a fun ride!! Always pay attention to your welds! If you see rust it’s usually a crack!
Anyone try this on a gladiator with the ecodiesel?
Anyone think Jeep will ever recall this?
Anyone else notice how short his linkage is?
Would this work with a rock krawler front trackbar?
That’s a great question. I don’t know why it wouldn’t but to be safe, give Synergy a call and verify. I know in the past there were some issues with them working with some other brand of track bars
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Hydraulic steering