When you failed the cast for MMMWP, use a warpstone spark to re-roll it. So glad you didn't manage to cast the Vortex first turn, you'd only have hit yourself. Usually it goes, skitterleap, then WLV, then zip back to safety through a gnaw-hole. Don't know if you found setting up the WLV a pain, I made myself a triangle from sprue 7 inch lengths to help speed up the setup process, having to be 1 inch away from models is a PITA. I'm still watch so don't know whether to congratulate or commiserate yet :D
It is so funny you brought this up. The first time Michael cast this spell was in battle round 2, but after 10 minutes,he realized he couldn't place it because of how specific the set up is, so we edited it out and let him cast something else. It is a good spell , but tricky to use 😄 🤣
Great report, enjoyed it a lot! Big time agree with the swingy-ness on the big pig, I had my first game with him and he did absolutely no damage on his first combat lol. Fun and interesting mechanics though!
Absolutely ecstatic that you got a big pig so quickly, let alone 2! I have been wanting to see you play the new units and get your thoughts and see some rolls
Remember Enhancement (command traits, artifacts) does not affect the mount unless specified. Armour of Gork doesnt give the maw-krusha +1 to hit only the megaboss. Anyhow always watch your games and enjoy them very much. ❤ So any new brutes on the way?
So excited! Not only Ironjawz BUT Ironjawz with new models !!! Going for David on this one also there doesn’t seem to be closed caption options for this one? Stay frosty 😊🙏
@@BattleshockWargamingyeah it’s not a huge thing , I wondered wether it was UA-cam issue or not. I burst my eardrum so hard to hear 👂 😂 should be fine for the next one 😊🙏
How can you have your clanrats on a line? Shouldn't the coherency rules kill all of them since the ones on the edges are always only 1" away from 1 rat and not 2? Or does the base size make it so he "reaches" the next 2 in line?
You answered your own question lol. The bases are 25mm which is less than 1 inch, so the base on the end of the line is within an inch of the next 2. This is the only base size where this is possible 😉
one of the best channels out there, but my one feedback would be how frequently you cut off filming rounds 4 + 5 most bat reps. Yes not much necessarily happens, but for this one there was a huge score swing that we never saw happen and stops people learning how that can be achieved. Just my 2 cents!
If u reinforce a unit maw grunta gougers "big pigs" how many do u feild if reinforced? Just curious if they can be feilded in units of 3, and wondering how many points that costs. Thank u u guys are amazing big fan of ur battle reports
They are 160 per pig. You could have up to 3 in a unit, for 480 points. They are great little movement pieces in units of 1 though. You could violent fury the whole unit if you ran 3 tho, which would be pretty sweet! Thanks for watching our videos, we appreciate you 😀
@BattleshockWargaming thank u for the clarification. I ran a list yesterday with 2 units of 2 big pigs and they were so killy with vilent fury. Thanks to u guys for tying them out on camera. It inspired me to build my big pig list it's a blast to ply
Go to youtube and pick one of our videos. Down by the comments hit "more" to expand the video description box. The link to become a channel member is the first one in the video description. Hope that helps:)
Regardless of the type of Orruk Warclans army you chose, you can pick 1 ORRUK WARCLANS HERO with a mount in your army to have 1 of the following mount traits
as a skaven player myself who is sad about our place in the meta right now I hate to kick Thanqol when hes down but... you dont get clubbing blows if you go with the braziers, clubbing blows is the melee profile if you go with the warp fire projectors.
The big pigs are sooooo cool, I want like 10 of them, hopefully the points drop a touch, as they are very swingy, the momentum thing is pretty cool though. They do not bracket, which means they can still slap with even 1 wound left. I made some sad whale sounds when my general went into Thanquol with violent fury and did 0 damage tho lol
Totaly love this battle report , at the end we always don't know how is going to win, i like soo much the colors of skaven army ; orange end blue was wonderfull !!! Continue with you battle report and keep your spirit, like that ! ++ from France
Thank you Theo! If you didn't know my full name is Dave Deveraux, French heritage, but I've never visited. One day I will get to visit the motherland, and I'll make sure to bring my warhammer army lol
Hi Guys. I have a rules question I can't find a solid answer to, only suggestions. This weekend I'm using Khorne, and have taken the sub faction to give my unit "Strike first" if I roll a 8+ on the charge. Tonight I charged with three units. Two of them got a 8+, but skarbrand didn't. So I played my two strike first abilities, then I went to activate skarbrand as my normal activation. My opponent said I can't do that, as the rules on page 69 simply state strike first goes first, but you alternative afterwards. So I can't activate skarbrand, and so skarbrand then died. However I've seen you guys play it as "Strike first" happens, then 'Starting with the player who's turn it is', you alternate activation. Can you guys explain what's right, and point me to the rules section that covers it please. Many thanks
You activate all fight first units, then you activate normally starting with the ACTIVE player. This means you get to pick Skarbrand before he does his first activation. To put it bluntly, your friend is wrong, or he just didn't want to get wrecked by Skarbrand lol
@@Willireallyamstrike first and strike last effects are detailled in section 12.4 and 12.5 of the core rules. Here is the section 12.5, which explainer the position of those effects during a fight phase:
12.5 STRIKE-FIRST AND STRIKE-LAST SEQUENCING 1. Start of combat phase abilities are used 2. Units with strike-first effects attack 3. Units without strike-first/strike-last effects attack 4. Units with strike-last effects attack 5. End of combat phase abilities are used
Thank you! We are filming Big Waaagh vs Avengorii tomorrow :) Is a member report, but we also have a secret monster mash match up for Halloween coming for the community as well ;)
Voting on pigs. I Like that you Run meelee Thanquol but skaven warbringer is the real Punch and fight on death is super good. I am Not a huge Fan of stormfiends in General but lets See how this Battle unfolds. Skaven are still bottom Tier Army 🙂 8:19 deathfrenzy can only be Cast on non Heroes super good on plague censor bearer Glass canons. You need dreaded death Frenzy for Heroes, so Another Point for the warbringer (hardest puncher that there is)
Michael was like Jon Snow at battle of the bastards, pinned in and suffocating, and then by the grace of God was able to pull it out. One of his most impressive comebacks imo
Why are they increasing there save by more than one in some cases and the rules clearly state a save canot be modified by more that +1. iv seen them do this in multiple battle riports hope i must b missing something..
The save can be plus 3, just never more than plus 1 of the characteristic. Example my save is 4+, I have mystic shield and all out defense active, the rend of the weapon is -1 rend. I add ALL modifiers, so the rend and pluses to save. That leaves me with a plus 1, so my save is 3+. Now if the weapon in the same activation has no rend, the save is still 3+ as it cannot be modified by more than 1, so the all out defense is not necessary. This is a rule that new players frequently make more complicated than it really is. To confirm, hop on you local games facebook or discord and ask some experienced players. Hope that helps, this is a very common comment we get. Keep in mind, we have both been playing for years and play competitive tournaments as well 😉
This clarification explains alot thank u. i was confused because iv been plyin ironjawz for a bit and is one of my favorite army's to ply was never shure how that works when my megaboss get hit with a rend -3 attack i was under the impression that ur save could only b modified by a max of plus one i didnt know that u could stack them when defending agenst a rend -3 attack good to know thank u. u guys are amazing and i love watching ur battle reports. This is where i go to watch and learn this amazing and fun game
@@cardiac777 because it’s the new hotness so everyone is going to do it. I’m weird like that. 😁 I like gor-gruntas. I will probably end up liking the big pigs after everyone and there moms are done jumping on the wagon.
Never use the melee weapons on thanquol, the warpfire throwers are so much better. Especially with his ability to double command, they’re incredible for unleash hell alongside the stormfiends. You could have basically thrown up to 20 mortals at that 5 man pig squad when they charged.
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When you failed the cast for MMMWP, use a warpstone spark to re-roll it.
So glad you didn't manage to cast the Vortex first turn, you'd only have hit yourself. Usually it goes, skitterleap, then WLV, then zip back to safety through a gnaw-hole. Don't know if you found setting up the WLV a pain, I made myself a triangle from sprue 7 inch lengths to help speed up the setup process, having to be 1 inch away from models is a PITA.
I'm still watch so don't know whether to congratulate or commiserate yet :D
It is so funny you brought this up. The first time Michael cast this spell was in battle round 2, but after 10 minutes,he realized he couldn't place it because of how specific the set up is, so we edited it out and let him cast something else. It is a good spell , but tricky to use 😄 🤣
@@BattleshockWargaming48:36 If you Hit the 6 on the WLV its D6 damage ⚡⚡⚡
Great report, enjoyed it a lot! Big time agree with the swingy-ness on the big pig, I had my first game with him and he did absolutely no damage on his first combat lol. Fun and interesting mechanics though!
They are soooo cool, but yeah, the Tuskboss kind of betrayed me late game. It was fun to 1 tap Thanquol tho!
new to the channel but instantly a big fan. Recommend maybe an over head camera for the table!
Thank you for watching our channel! Lots of great stuff on the way 😉
Absolutely ecstatic that you got a big pig so quickly, let alone 2! I have been wanting to see you play the new units and get your thoughts and see some rolls
Omg David, the turn 2 megaboss 12" charge with mighty destroyers may have clinched you the game.
Michael your slap back with thanquil LMAO I'm so sorry
Absolutely brutal. Can't believe the outcome! Congratulations on a well piloted victory
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We both had turns of doing NO damage with our centerpieces lol. Was a bizarre game
Remember Enhancement (command traits, artifacts) does not affect the mount unless specified. Armour of Gork doesnt give the maw-krusha +1 to hit only the megaboss.
Anyhow always watch your games and enjoy them very much. ❤
So any new brutes on the way?
Good catch! We hope to add some brutes in the near future :)
So excited! Not only Ironjawz BUT Ironjawz with new models !!! Going for David on this one also there doesn’t seem to be closed caption options for this one? Stay frosty 😊🙏
I dunno what happens with the captions sometimes, anyhow, thanks a lot for watching! We appreciate you :)
@@BattleshockWargamingyeah it’s not a huge thing , I wondered wether it was UA-cam issue or not. I burst my eardrum so hard to hear 👂 😂 should be fine for the next one 😊🙏
Thx for the report. Ps: can we see some more skaven.
Especially some list without stormfiends
More on the way! Thanks for the comments :)
How can you have your clanrats on a line? Shouldn't the coherency rules kill all of them since the ones on the edges are always only 1" away from 1 rat and not 2? Or does the base size make it so he "reaches" the next 2 in line?
You answered your own question lol. The bases are 25mm which is less than 1 inch, so the base on the end of the line is within an inch of the next 2. This is the only base size where this is possible 😉
one of the best channels out there, but my one feedback would be how frequently you cut off filming rounds 4 + 5 most bat reps. Yes not much necessarily happens, but for this one there was a huge score swing that we never saw happen and stops people learning how that can be achieved. Just my 2 cents!
Thanks for the feedback! We will keep this in mind moving forward. Thanks for watching our channel :)
Can I ask if there are any member-reports with Sylvaneth in the current GHB? I've watched all the free ones.
There is at least 1, and we have a community one coming vs Idoneth Deepkin on the way :)
If u reinforce a unit maw grunta gougers "big pigs" how many do u feild if reinforced? Just curious if they can be feilded in units of 3, and wondering how many points that costs. Thank u u guys are amazing big fan of ur battle reports
They are 160 per pig. You could have up to 3 in a unit, for 480 points. They are great little movement pieces in units of 1 though. You could violent fury the whole unit if you ran 3 tho, which would be pretty sweet! Thanks for watching our videos, we appreciate you 😀
@BattleshockWargaming thank u for the clarification. I ran a list yesterday with 2 units of 2 big pigs and they were so killy with vilent fury. Thanks to u guys for tying them out on camera. It inspired me to build my big pig list it's a blast to ply
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How could I join up to get more battle reports from you guys? I am on your website but can't really see a sub button or anything like that?
Go to youtube and pick one of our videos. Down by the comments hit "more" to expand the video description box. The link to become a channel member is the first one in the video description. Hope that helps:)
What are those jezzails? Conversion? Or 3d?
Those are 3d print 😉
Does the big pig get mount traits? I didn’t think he did. I am new to AOS and Ironjaws from 40K so I’m not up on all the rules
Regardless of the type of Orruk Warclans army you chose, you can pick 1 ORRUK WARCLANS HERO with a mount in your army to have 1 of the following mount traits
This is the text from the tome :)
@@BattleshockWargaming ok so the app is just messed up then. I have yet to get a game in with these guys. I’m excited to play them though
Isnt Armour of Gork for the bearer only? the +1 to hit doesnt apply to the mount right?
Yes, I messed this up. Fortunately, he wasn't around very long to make the mistake repeatedly lol
WOOO! Big Pig!!! So hyped to see a BR with the new models!
Hope you enjoy the carnage!
best damn battlereports out there, love the hero cam
Thanks alot for the comment, and thanks for being a member! Lots of good stuff on the way :)
as a skaven player myself who is sad about our place in the meta right now I hate to kick Thanqol when hes down but... you dont get clubbing blows if you go with the braziers, clubbing blows is the melee profile if you go with the warp fire projectors.
Thank you for the clarification:) Thanquol is still a beast, if you roll well lol
You do get crushing blows with warp fire braziers, read thanquols warscroll again at the top where it tells you loadouts he can have
@@BattleshockWargaming oh shit the other guy was right my bad. Crushing blows is tied to boneripper.
Those boars definitely do hog the limelight!
The big pigs are sooooo cool, I want like 10 of them, hopefully the points drop a touch, as they are very swingy, the momentum thing is pretty cool though. They do not bracket, which means they can still slap with even 1 wound left. I made some sad whale sounds when my general went into Thanquol with violent fury and did 0 damage tho lol
Totaly love this battle report , at the end we always don't know how is going to win, i like soo much the colors of skaven army ; orange end blue was wonderfull !!!
Continue with you battle report and keep your spirit, like that !
++ from France
Thank you Theo! If you didn't know my full name is Dave Deveraux, French heritage, but I've never visited. One day I will get to visit the motherland, and I'll make sure to bring my warhammer army lol
Sure come and i will share with my association and my brotherhood@@BattleshockWargaming
Hi Guys. I have a rules question I can't find a solid answer to, only suggestions.
This weekend I'm using Khorne, and have taken the sub faction to give my unit "Strike first" if I roll a 8+ on the charge.
Tonight I charged with three units. Two of them got a 8+, but skarbrand didn't. So I played my two strike first abilities, then I went to activate skarbrand as my normal activation. My opponent said I can't do that, as the rules on page 69 simply state strike first goes first, but you alternative afterwards. So I can't activate skarbrand, and so skarbrand then died.
However I've seen you guys play it as "Strike first" happens, then 'Starting with the player who's turn it is', you alternate activation.
Can you guys explain what's right, and point me to the rules section that covers it please.
Many thanks
You activate all fight first units, then you activate normally starting with the ACTIVE player. This means you get to pick Skarbrand before he does his first activation. To put it bluntly, your friend is wrong, or he just didn't want to get wrecked by Skarbrand lol
@@BattleshockWargaming excellent, thankyou
@@Willireallyamstrike first and strike last effects are detailled in section 12.4 and 12.5 of the core rules. Here is the section 12.5, which explainer the position of those effects during a fight phase:
12.5 STRIKE-FIRST AND STRIKE-LAST SEQUENCING
1. Start of combat phase abilities are used
2. Units with strike-first effects attack
3. Units without strike-first/strike-last effects attack
4. Units with strike-last effects attack
5. End of combat phase abilities are used
'Two of them got a 8+, but skarbrand didn't.' - Even if he did roll 8+ the strike first subfaction ability only applies to mortal units
Damn those jezzails look amazing, where can I get those?
Cults3d.com :)
warp lightning spell if you roll a six it does d6 damage
Oh snap! Good call, we will know this for next game
@@BattleshockWargaming and you had that juicy 6 for damage roll !
Also when the warlock bombardier uses the +1 damage on 3 slryre unit.
Those 3 skryre units and him himself get the +1 damage buff
That is good to know! More damage before he commits suicide is helpful :)
did they fix the app so you can give mount traits to the big pigs?
No, I just did it anyway. Lol
Massively excited for the Big Pigs!!! Letz go Ironjawz!!
They definitely brought the bacon lol
No cheese dice for the skaven??? Check out the barons warp cheese dice.
We need to have him send us some new swag!
Great battle! Love both of the armies!
Thank you! We are filming Big Waaagh vs Avengorii tomorrow :) Is a member report, but we also have a secret monster mash match up for Halloween coming for the community as well ;)
thank you guys for an awesome batrep :)
Thank YOU for watching, this was a very swingy back and forth game, great match up 😀
Voting on pigs. I Like that you Run meelee Thanquol but skaven warbringer is the real Punch and fight on death is super good. I am Not a huge Fan of stormfiends in General but lets See how this Battle unfolds. Skaven are still bottom Tier Army 🙂
8:19 deathfrenzy can only be Cast on non Heroes super good on plague censor bearer Glass canons. You need dreaded death Frenzy for Heroes, so Another Point for the warbringer (hardest puncher that there is)
Michael was like Jon Snow at battle of the bastards, pinned in and suffocating, and then by the grace of God was able to pull it out. One of his most impressive comebacks imo
Why are they increasing there save by more than one in some cases and the rules clearly state a save canot be modified by more that +1. iv seen them do this in multiple battle riports hope i must b missing something..
The save can be plus 3, just never more than plus 1 of the characteristic. Example my save is 4+, I have mystic shield and all out defense active, the rend of the weapon is -1 rend. I add ALL modifiers, so the rend and pluses to save. That leaves me with a plus 1, so my save is 3+. Now if the weapon in the same activation has no rend, the save is still 3+ as it cannot be modified by more than 1, so the all out defense is not necessary. This is a rule that new players frequently make more complicated than it really is. To confirm, hop on you local games facebook or discord and ask some experienced players. Hope that helps, this is a very common comment we get. Keep in mind, we have both been playing for years and play competitive tournaments as well 😉
This clarification explains alot thank u. i was confused because iv been plyin ironjawz for a bit and is one of my favorite army's to ply was never shure how that works when my megaboss get hit with a rend -3 attack i was under the impression that ur save could only b modified by a max of plus one i didnt know that u could stack them when defending agenst a rend -3 attack good to know thank u. u guys are amazing and i love watching ur battle reports. This is where i go to watch and learn this amazing and fun game
love the paintjobs. Insane, as usual
Thanks a lot! Michael spent a lot of time on his new Skaven army 😀
I think I said that un another vidéo...
It shows!
Love to see skaven pull this one out
This game was wild, hope you enjoyed it 😉
@@BattleshockWargaming not gonna lie Michael almost had me in the first half then what a turn around
This is tough for me. I like both armies. But I don’t like big pig. So I have to side with the skaven
Why don't you like big pig?
@@cardiac777 because it’s the new hotness so everyone is going to do it. I’m weird like that. 😁 I like gor-gruntas. I will probably end up liking the big pigs after everyone and there moms are done jumping on the wagon.
@@Averagejoepainting fair enough 👌 it is annoying when that happens
The big pig overheard you, then he sadly trotted away into the horizon lol
@@BattleshockWargaming 😂
Never use the melee weapons on thanquol, the warpfire throwers are so much better. Especially with his ability to double command, they’re incredible for unleash hell alongside the stormfiends. You could have basically thrown up to 20 mortals at that 5 man pig squad when they charged.
These are great points, thanks for taking the time to comment, more rats on the way soon!
Both armies look great. I have to root for the Orruks because I’m a Seraphon player and we hate chaos.
They definitely put in some work this game, a couple whiffs and turn order gave the rats opportunity to counter strike as well. This was a close game!
I will say geting to see the new pigies was ausome
They are amazing models! Pointed a bit too high, but when they go off, they can do some serious work :)
Thanquol cant death frenzy himself cause hes a hero.
Only Works with warbringers dreaded death Frenzy
Good call, we missed that! Thanks for watching :)
I predict pigs smashing rats
What did you think? Crazy game right?
@@BattleshockWargamingtruly a crazy game, I thought the pigs were going to slaughter the rats
Nice Job
Thanks Ansgar! Cheers 🍻
*ahem*
*clears throat*
BIG PIIIIG!!!!!!!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
rooting for pigs
Go pigs! Trample them with those trotters!
pOrktober!
Unfortunately, it turned into a Luau lol
BIG 🐖
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Wait did thanqoul skitterleap?
Just so it is mentioned.
Thanqoul can’t skitterleap himself.
He has too many wounds to be able to do so
Thanquol did not skitterleap :) The grey seer did in turn 3 though. Those extra points payed off big late game!
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W for them 🐀