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I got my Alienware X17 fully specced out but chose the 360hz screen and I absolutely love this beast. Overall aesthetics was the reason I chose the Alienware over the GE76 or the Legion7i. Great video!
Thanks Paul! Yeah that was my thought process as well. All 3 beasts will satisfy anyone who hasn’t upgraded for a few years but they definitely appeal to people in different ways
@@steeveabitbol2466 I chose the 1080p 360hz display because I play the usual FPS games mainly and the fast refresh rate is amazing for that genre. I did consider getting the 4K 120hz display, but the GSync and Advanced Optimus on the 360hz display sold me. I also use a 27” Alienware external display that’s QHD 1440p 240hz when I use the laptop at home so I have the best of both worlds for now.
@@steeveabitbol2466 the loss of FPS is pretty significant between the 4K display and the 1080p 360hz display if you really want all the competitive advantage in shooters. I would have preferred that Dell allowed for a QHD 240hz display because it’s really the best of both worlds. Beautiful image and super fast refresh rate. I’d recommend doing a little bit of research on the 4K … lots of info on here.
Awesome review! Agree on both, what concerns RGB & styling and that the crucial criteria is actually gaming performance . For these are Gaming laptops. Kudos & please keep'em coming 😎👍
Hey! I currently have the GE76 Raider 3060 144Hz. Costco had it for 1199.99. Went for the sale of the x17 R1 3070 165Hz at 1999.99. The GE76 3070 is now on sale for 1999.99. Ughhhh… now I’m torn…
i got the x17 after having the 17 r5 for 5 years, the x17 cooling is so good! i stay around 80c while gaming all day compared to the 17 r5 90c which i had to repaste a few times.
Same here came from the 17 R5 with a 1070 Sitting on the X17 R2 i91200HK 3080 ti. You know what's crazy? I feel like we had higher quality laptops before..... And I actually didn't have the worst temps with the 17 R5 once I get repasting down
I'd love to see the r2 x17 go head to head like this with the updated ge76 raider. I'm especially interested in the 4k screen options to do my creative stuff (if I can pry the gamer on the house off of it). I love the design of the x17 & that lovely cherry keyboard, but they seem to have degraded the speakers on the r2 & apparently the 4k screen is both dimmer & warmer (yellowish whites) than the r1. So if the speakers on the new ge76 are a touch better & the 4k screen is decent, I might think about that one. I really dislike the look of the msi but that's the least important thing for me on the list. By the way I've only just found your channel & wish I'd come across it sooner! You do outstanding reviews. Found you through a mention by Dave from MashIT (also a good'un)!
Thank you Mad Catter! Yeah David is a great guy! We’re doing another LIVE collab on the new Alienware m17 R5 this next month. Working on a video for the new GE76 right now but yes I definitely will be doing another 2022 vs video of the newer versions of these two here soon!
I bought a m15 r4 about 6 days ago I really enjoyed it but I felt the screen was too small for me my original Goal was to get a x17 but I didn’t want to wait a month for it was so random but I was on Best Buy website my local Best Buy had a few x17 in stock I though it was a mistake sure enough I ordered it and it said it was ready for pick up so I picked it up I was lucky I was able to return the m15 but overall am so much happier with the x17 gaming look a lot better on a bigger screen this is the first time I have owner a Alienware and ur videos really helped me, am a Alienware fan now there are a lot of great gaming laptops but for the build quality and overall experience Alienware is at the top
Full size keyboard should be a norm for 17 inch laptops or even a 15 inch. It is easier and faster to type when you have number pad at the same time you can use one hand typing with laptops that has number pad while you need two hands to type numeric keys at the top to laptops that has no number pad. So MSI for me.
I got the MSI cuz of the rtx 3080 Ti 16gb capabilities and 32 Gb ddr4 ram, if those 2 are happy your laptop is happy. I guess same would go to X17, it's a nice rig too. 👍👍👍
@@birdyashiro1226 chip shortages, better to get a refurbished Alienware from Dell outlet. I had the 17r 5 and it had so many issues Dell replaced it with the area 51m r2 with some upgrades.
I ordered my x17 R1 on July 31, 2021 and they “lost” my laptop from dell HQ to fedex…. Had to call in myself inside of them reaching out to me about this situation… Did a replacement order and they told me it will ship to me in 8 business days and found out today that they don’t have parts in stock…. Now the eta is end of September….. Dell FTW
@@90jaemin Exactly, they delayed my shipping date three times. They don't give a sh*t.🤷🏻♂️ I am glad I cancelled the order. And I will never buy any Dell again😂
Nice content Justin! Also I have a question, which laptop gpu is worth going for, rtx 3050ti or 3060 because I don't have stretched enough budget for 3070 and 3080 though. Another one is does Alienware still maintain its Area 51m lineup anymore?
I recently jumped on the Alienware train from msi with a m15 r4. I absolutely love it so far. But the biggest deciding factor for me was dell's extended warranty. It's absolutely amazing.
got to love the alienware, before razer if not rog is the choice of most people as well as msi but today alienware they step up their gaming design to the level where i think they have the best design for gaming laptop side by side with the rog zephyrus if not razer (mostly just because razer is very thin and build like apple product).
Yeah The Old Fashioned one of the biggest downfalls for Alienware has been the overheating but this new cryotech cooling technology has changed all that
Thank you for the video, I noticed that after enabling the Mux switch for X17, the benchmark score increased significantly (as per Mash IT), just wondering if you have tested X17 on an external screen?
Hey Raymond, yes the tests that I did were on an external screen so I could see what the max possible would be. Just didn't do any undervolting or GPU overclocking
@@JustinTechTips Does your x17 have high density or low density ram? One of the youtubers put low density ram into his x17 and was able to increase his benchmark scores.
Hey justIN I have heard that the r12 3090 version had some sort of bottleneck issues Can you explain? Reviews read that the performance does not go as standard to the 11th gen i9 and 3090..
Could you test out the HP Omen 17 (2021) with the RTX 3080, I would love to see a comparison to either of these laptops as the HP also offer 165 watts of gpu power.
which external numpad can you guys recommend??? ...Just got my new X17 after watching these videos and I went to Justin's link in the description but there was so many choices
Hey Jason, did you get the normal keyboard or the mechanical keyboard? I would try and get a NumPad with a similar feel so that it feels balanced between your two hands
The X17 webcam has lower resolution but has the advantage of being able to use Windows Hello for Windows login. I agree with the conclusion though that the GE 76 is the better of the 2. Both are fine machines.
Yeah Windows Hello is a pretty good feature that I didn't realize I would miss until I transitioned to the GE76 and have to type in a pin again. As if I'm back in 2018 or something!
Reading the comments should I hold off on the x17 and wait to see if they iron out the quirks? If so what's the average timeline for the upgraded versions between the release of the first version to the upgraded version?
@@JustinTechTips I bit the bullet and ordered the 3080 x17 r1 cuz I needed a new gaming laptop and 3d graphic design capable laptop for my electromagnetic physics courses. I was just reading comments about some heat issues with first round 10 and 20 series gtx cards so I wasnt sure if the 30 series came out flawless with that issue but I can't wait but dell is taking forever with mine.
@@octavius9685 don't the x17 r1 3080's only come in lunar light? If you show me otherwise I'm gonna be pissed as hell lol I wanted that darkside of the moon all black but beggars can't be choosers.
Just about to get my x17 3060. From what i have read online, element 31 is not in 3060 configuration. Will there be any thermal difference in 3060 vs element 31?? 3060 might have been applied with ordinary paste.
Hey karma, think one of the reasons they don’t need better more expensive thermal paste on the 3060 is because it won’t get as hot naturally than the 3070 and 3080. I wouldn’t worry too much about thermal throttling with a 3060. At least not on a machine with great cooling technology like the x17. Just FYI the RGB touchpad is only available with the 3080 model
Thank you very much for your video💖. I want to buy a laptop for heavy rendering with softwares like blender and ue5. Do you think msi ge76 is a good option? I'm worried that in a long rendering, for example, 2-3 hours, the device will get very hot and damaged. Thank you very much 💖
Hey Sara, yes the MSI GE76 will be amazing for rendering. Because it doesn't obsess over thinness like many other gaming laptops, it also has great thermals. You'll be fine rendering for 2-3 hrs. If you do get the MSI GE76 for rendering though, I recommend the latest 12th gen version. 2022 MSI GE76 with i9 and 3080Ti: bit.ly/MSI_GE76_Raider_12900HK (The Most Powerful) 2022 MSI GE76 with i7 and 3070Ti: bit.ly/MSI_GE76_3070Ti (Best Bang for your Buck)
This IS the video I was looking for. I was thinking of retiring my MSI GE75 and unfortunately MSI GE76 Raider has a limited stock availability. I might just get the Alienware X17.
Hey XXinvincibleproXX_YT these tests actually showed the GE76 with a little more FPS but there’s a few other factors that make me like the Alienware better
I've had my x17 for over a month now and let me tell you, it was worth every fucking dollar. The 4k screen is buttery smooth and turns heads when I use it at work. I run cyberpunk at 4k for hours and it never goes over 73c. Yes it gets a bit loud, but with the power its putting out, it's not a big deal. The only real complaint I have is the lack of a number keys on the side, but I understand why they needed the extra vent space. I added a 2tb NVME and this bitch is loaded. 4k 17" i7-11800 32GB 3466mhz 2tb NVME This gonna be my daily for a couple years.
Overall for all intents and purposes they are fairly even. The main difference is that the X17 looks and feels more premium with a much thinner profile, reminiscent of Apples Macbook Air.
I have one X17, I totally agree, this machine has the best look and feel, very solid and premium. The only thing that disappoints me is the quality of the FHD display, reading text on Windows 11 is a terrible experience.
Interesting comparison. I have the x17 R2. Previously I had the 17 R4. I liked the R4 much better. The 17 came with the number pad. Plus you could read the shift characters unlike the x17. I felt more comfortable with the 17 than the x17.
Yeah Cross Hairs it kind of does come down to personal preference based on all the pros and cons of each that I mentioned. My personal preference is on laptops that perform the best for creative software which is in this case different than the best laptop for gaming
Hi nice video so I like both of them but I don’t know which one should I buy it, in Best Buy they have the Alienware X17 3070 16gb price $2.549 In B&H they have the GE76 3070 32bg for $2.499 I just play one game fifa 22 soccer, So please witch one should I buy it ?…
sorry for the late reply guillermo! Are you talking about this specific GE76 on B&H? bhpho.to/3Fi5PkL I would go with that one for the best gaming performance
Nice comparison thanks.I got Ge76 raider. First day after hours of simulation then 10+ hours of gpu rendering it is goddamn overkill machine with zero bloating, zero regret. Best cpu, best gpu, best ram, best ssd, best cooling. Beside X17 is also real competitor for serious business not only for gamers. Was my second choice.
I wanted to ask this, on the noise level for the fans. Is the fans stay on most of the time running strong or will they settle down to a whisper quiet if just working on the internet?
@@justin427aex Yes they're always quiet for daily works internet, adobe software works etc. You can hear them only with high cpu or gpu load works such as rendering and heavy gaming.
Guys don’t buy any of them if you see in some parts of USA the prices are going down why?… because the new models are coming soon the msi it’s gonna be amazing with 4 fans and the design it’s not gonna be like plastic it’s gonna be a better material and the logo which is in the front now it’s gonna be rgb you can change colors, and the new 17 Alienware now it’s gonna como in 3 colors white grey and black and with some more changes, i started working in Best Buy so that’s why I know that ..,.
I was trying to decide between these two computers and your review could not have been more timely. I’m going to go with the GE 76 and I will use your affiliate link. Thanks!
Hey by the way is there any option for buying RTX 3080 version of x17 from India…..and what’s ur opinion about them not giving a qhd panel and a 1TB storage for their 3080 version within the price included
I am contemplating getting an X17. They have a screen option for the 1920x1080 FHD 360Hz monitor of the UHD 3840x2160 4ms 120hz. I game primarily in addition to doing some work stuff, which does not include any form of rendering or content creation. Just wondering your take on it?
MSI GP76 is better laptop because only 2000€ (2000$~). For gaming you wanna go for 1080P and preferably 240hz screen. 1080p 3070 140W > 1440p 3080W 165W.
I will dissagree about design. Having rgb logo on the back and rgb on air exhaust is absolutely pointless. MSI makes more sense having rgb at the front and nothing at the back. In my opinion it also just looks better.
Justin , once again another great content. It is clearly showing that you are a hardworking person and care about videos that you're making , keep it up.👏 Do you have any idea of Dell's guarantee? Is it worth it to get their services? Your big fan from iran🇮🇷
Thank you Ali! I really appreciate that! I purchased a 3 year warranty/support from them when I got my m17 r3 but I personally haven’t had to use it yet so I’m not sure how good it is
@@kernoleary1394 yes still waiting.....been absolute joke. Nearly cancelled the order twice but that isn't going to help the situation. My problem is the i9 proccesser 98k. I've managed to contact dell direct and find that out for myself.
You just randomly got recommended to me when I was searching Aphex Twin (what?) but this was a great comparison. I personally have a beef with MSI right now because the RTX 2080 in my flagship GT76 Titan died after 13 months (one month out of warranty), so I'd definitely consider Alienware next time. I'm waiting for RTX 4000 before my next big purchase though. Anyway, nice vid and I'm subbing for future content. Cheers.
I have the legion 7 2080 super same as what this video shows as having extremely good thermals. which is weird because my legion burned out about 1 month over a year. I started seeing problems with my graphics and cpu after only about 8 months of using it. so I knew it was likely going to burn out soon after. which it did. 2300$ this company wiped their ass with my money. but from my experience my legion got pretty hot, i couldnt run doom eternal, i gave up on that game after a few nights letting it get super super cold in my house during the winter and I could only play 20 minutes of that game at most and I couldnt get my cpu to be less than 80c to 86c. so I couldnt play doom eternal at all even when I turned the settings as low as i could. got to about lvl 3 and uninstalled the game, didnt want to trash my laptop. And it normally ran games like warzone and coldwar at around 74c to 81c and i tried to keep it lower but couldnt always get down below 80. too hot imo. im looking for a laptop that can do much better as far as thermals go. id like to run at 60c always. seems like even the best laptops of 2021 are even hotter and would priobably burn out much much faster than my legion. is laptop gaming actually a thing or is the industry a scam? ive been having a hard time keeping one running. And I cant get the information out of these fucking youtubers. and the information I do get, they all have wildy differing information and benchmarks. one youtuber will give thermals on a laptop being super good like in the 70c range and then another youtuber will give thermal readings on that same laptop that look way worse. seems like these youtubers fill the airspace and make it hard for consumers to get an accurate measure from any real voices out there, and they are extremely biased with trying to make sales probably. its hard to get a real dude whose used the pc for his own personal and just give us his run down. fuckn hate youtubers for this reason. theyre so full of shit and contradict each other on just about every facet of their reviews.
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Thank you! Such quality and a superbly satisfying review of two titans. Subscribed! Picking between the both for black Friday deals and the MSI(for being cheaper at just $1999) looks like the winner to me!
You should include some of the negative aspects as well . On one You tube channel I recently finished watching had more of Technical side and unlike most channels with bogus reviews . The lighting for these so called Gaming Laptops is without a shadow of doubt Lame. Obviously built for individuals who live in never never land . Alienware X17 Laptop is just butt ugly . The software issues have never been ironed out and the speakers aren't any better than a low spec smart phone.
Yeah angus young, I definitely wouldn't agree the x17 is ugly. I did talk about negatives in this review as well. Also compared benchmarks for the technical side, but I guess I can do more of that in the future for these comparisons. My full reviews on each of these machines go a lot more in depth
Either purchase will delight. It is important to note the compromises on each machine. The secondary key function lighting drives me bonkers, but the keyboard feel is worth it.
Yeah Christopher, I agree. I absolutely love the feel of the mechanical keyboard. Definitely worth the $50 upgrade, not sure why it was so hard to make it all glow
@@JustinTechTips Likely an oversight I think. The original videos showed the other functions glowing. I think they got the keys made, realized the problem and already had orders. Supplier shenanigans?
I think its because people like gaming where ever they want with ease, screen included, and want a fast computer for other things other than gaming as well.
Let's be real with the better cooling on the X17 if you enable the mux and throw a slight undervolt on the cpu you're looking at pretty much identical performance for gaming. Not to mention the lottery difference in your test units with high density ram on the X17 vs the low density on the raider. If it was apples to apples with low density on both, the X17 would probably be near identical out of the box.
Dude I had a zephyrus g14 and It just melted awful laptop it overheated so much, I'm trying to buy one of these Wich will you recommend me, I play dota and warzone
O wow it melted?! That's awful! The GE76 had slightly better performance than the x17. Also right now it seems the 3080 of the x17 is sold out and even the 3070s are taking forever to be delivered from Dell so you'll want to order from Amazon amzn.to/3m8LzLo or Best Buy bestbuy.7tiv.net/qnEezb. You can still get the GE76 3080 version from Amazon if you can afford the best of the best amzn.to/3jQiMZt. I like the design of the x17 a little better but if design isn't a factor in your choice I would go with that maxed out GE76 for best frame rates in those games.
Hey Joe! Yes I think you will be a lot happier with that machine. However unless you are doing 4k editing or rendering I wouldn't waste your money on an i9. An i7 should be just fine
Hey Atticus, the thought crossed my mind that some people would think that but then I figured that "tech tips" was so generic and not a very original phrase. I have been thinking about modifying the channel name a little though since you're not the first person to say that. Definitely want to keep JustIN as it's my name but also referring to tech just in
These laptops gets really good when you reinstall Windows. All of that bloatware does a number on the system, even with those specs. Would be curious to see what your results are after that.
I would think just uninstalling the bloatware or not having it run would be sufficient enough. I don't think they bring down the performance that much when they aren't running
Hey Mudassar, unfortunately I can't afford to giveaway computers yet as my monthly income is only like 1k right now. The giveaway that I do is for an Amazon.com Gift Card. I am doing a review for the Acer Nitro 5 though. This laptop is only $750! Hopefully it performs well since a lot of people have been requesting more affordable laptops to be reviewed
I think overall experience the x17 has my vote. The GE76 is just slightly faster with gaming but the x17 is faster with creative apps that I use more often
What about the resize bar support for the rtx 3080 on the laptop? Have you looked into that? So many people keep making video comparison on these laptops but no one can address the resize bar support on them when I ask about it. I guess I'll figure it out my self once I recieve my x17
With the Alienware, getting the low density (double-sided) ram gives you a ~15% boost to performance in all areas. So you were comparing a gimped version here. It comes with the low density ram if you get the 32GB version. Not sure why some ram options use high density ram. But it can also be upgraded by the user.
Yeah Jesse, I'm starting to do multiple tests with my reviews now with upgraded RAM to show people what new machines really are capable of with just a little more RAM love
@@jessestewart5109 interesting it would have been great if they listed this on their website when i specd the laptop out with my gf. It just says 3200 vs 3466 ram. Since shes using it exclusively for gaming i told her 16gb would be fine. Wasnt expecting a 15% performance difference from a few hundred mhz... :/
@@kernoleary1394 Yeah, it's really weird. 16GB is a very popular option and should come with low density too. But, even though it's annoying, you can upgrade very easily yourself in the future.
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Hey!! Love your videos bro, Can u make a comparision btw MSI Raider 76 and MSI Stealth 76?
Either one will do just fine!
@@steveugly1 Yep!
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"UA-cam just dont pay that much" got me LOL!! Def agree with the GE76 overall winner, it was butter smooth~
lol yeah Vivian hopefully as the channel gets bigger it’ll be more able to pay the bills
@@JustinTechTips go for it champ
Got the X17 and loved every minute of ownership, to be fair, the MSI will probably be just as good... Both machines are pretty brutal :)
Yeah no one will disappointed with either honestly
Would it be good for editing 4K on premiere pro ? 🤙
@@lifewiththeplatts Yeah it will handle it buttery smooth
What screen did you wind up getting?
@@kylerobinson6102 4k every single time man, its gorgeous and if u wanna game just use XLSS or play on QHD for that juicy FPS, no problems with 120hz
The way you present all info about the systems was amazing
Thank you Belvin! I really appreciate that!
I got my Alienware X17 fully specced out but chose the 360hz screen and I absolutely love this beast. Overall aesthetics was the reason I chose the Alienware over the GE76 or the Legion7i. Great video!
Thanks Paul! Yeah that was my thought process as well. All 3 beasts will satisfy anyone who hasn’t upgraded for a few years but they definitely appeal to people in different ways
why not get the 4k screen? Im about to pull the trigger on the fully loaded model as well!
@@steeveabitbol2466 I chose the 1080p 360hz display because I play the usual FPS games mainly and the fast refresh rate is amazing for that genre. I did consider getting the 4K 120hz display, but the GSync and Advanced Optimus on the 360hz display sold me. I also use a 27” Alienware external display that’s QHD 1440p 240hz when I use the laptop at home so I have the best of both worlds for now.
@@paulpatrulescu9976 is the loss of FPS that significant on 4k for FPS ??
@@steeveabitbol2466 the loss of FPS is pretty significant between the 4K display and the 1080p 360hz display if you really want all the competitive advantage in shooters. I would have preferred that Dell allowed for a QHD 240hz display because it’s really the best of both worlds. Beautiful image and super fast refresh rate. I’d recommend doing a little bit of research on the 4K … lots of info on here.
Very helpful video my school just replaced the MacBook Pro with the MSI GE raider
NIce! Full Sail University I'm guessing? That's where I went to school
@@JustinTechTips yes I attend full sail
Awesome review! Agree on both, what concerns RGB & styling and that the crucial criteria is actually gaming performance . For these are Gaming laptops. Kudos & please keep'em coming 😎👍
Thanks Alexander! Much more videos like this and better coming every Friday
There were multiple reviews and forums that mentioned the X17's RAM was slowing it down, just wanted to mention this.
Yeah it would be faster with dual sided RAM for sure. Still pretty dang fast though
I heard the 16 gb ram has high density while 32 ram up has low density ram
Hey! I currently have the GE76 Raider 3060 144Hz. Costco had it for 1199.99. Went for the sale of the x17 R1 3070 165Hz at 1999.99. The GE76 3070 is now on sale for 1999.99. Ughhhh… now I’m torn…
Hey Jeremy what will you be using the laptop for primarily?
@@JustinTechTips thanks for replying and happy thanksgiving.
I will be using it mainly for gaming. Some content creation, but nothing crazy.
Your transparency on commission is good. Never heard any other guy declare it so clearly.
Yeah I definitely want to be as open and honest as I can for you guys Rahul! Trust is super important!
i got the x17 after having the 17 r5 for 5 years, the x17 cooling is so good! i stay around 80c while gaming all day compared to the 17 r5 90c which i had to repaste a few times.
Same here came from the 17 R5 with a 1070
Sitting on the X17 R2 i91200HK 3080 ti.
You know what's crazy? I feel like we had higher quality laptops before.....
And I actually didn't have the worst temps with the 17 R5 once I get repasting down
I'd love to see the r2 x17 go head to head like this with the updated ge76 raider. I'm especially interested in the 4k screen options to do my creative stuff (if I can pry the gamer on the house off of it). I love the design of the x17 & that lovely cherry keyboard, but they seem to have degraded the speakers on the r2 & apparently the 4k screen is both dimmer & warmer (yellowish whites) than the r1. So if the speakers on the new ge76 are a touch better & the 4k screen is decent, I might think about that one. I really dislike the look of the msi but that's the least important thing for me on the list. By the way I've only just found your channel & wish I'd come across it sooner! You do outstanding reviews. Found you through a mention by Dave from MashIT (also a good'un)!
Thank you Mad Catter! Yeah David is a great guy! We’re doing another LIVE collab on the new Alienware m17 R5 this next month. Working on a video for the new GE76 right now but yes I definitely will be doing another 2022 vs video of the newer versions of these two here soon!
Wow I’ve been waiting for this! You rock! 🤘🏻Thanks
Glad I could help Chris!
I bought a m15 r4 about 6 days ago I really enjoyed it but I felt the screen was too small for me my original Goal was to get a x17 but I didn’t want to wait a month for it was so random but I was on Best Buy website my local Best Buy had a few x17 in stock I though it was a mistake sure enough I ordered it and it said it was ready for pick up so I picked it up I was lucky I was able to return the m15 but overall am so much happier with the x17 gaming look a lot better on a bigger screen this is the first time I have owner a Alienware and ur videos really helped me, am a Alienware fan now there are a lot of great gaming laptops but for the build quality and overall experience Alienware is at the top
Congrats Kj33! You are way more fortunate than a lot of people! I've heard so many stories about people waiting months for theirs directly from Dell
@@JustinTechTips thank you sir
Alienware fan here, so I would go with the X17, simple. 😁
Yeah me too Duhawma!
Full size keyboard should be a norm for 17 inch laptops or even a 15 inch. It is easier and faster to type when you have number pad at the same time you can use one hand typing with laptops that has number pad while you need two hands to type numeric keys at the top to laptops that has no number pad. So MSI for me.
Yeah Nathan, I figured it probably would be a deal breaker for some
Keep up the good work. I love your detailed reviews!!
Thank you Geofrey! Glad you like them!
I got the MSI cuz of the rtx 3080 Ti 16gb capabilities and 32 Gb ddr4 ram, if those 2 are happy your laptop is happy. I guess same would go to X17, it's a nice rig too. 👍👍👍
Yeah Golden Ratio you really can’t go wrong with either. Really excited to dive into the new GE76 here soon
I prefer the design of alienware but overall msi rocks....🤘
Yeah I agree 100% KUNDAN
Hey Singh - have you seen the TIAMAT Edition MSI? Holy smokes.
@@kylerobinson6102 yah the graphics on that is very cool ...
I prefer GE76. But now there is GE76 12UHS. It has intel i9-12900hk
Yeah Sudha Bhat, super excited about that one! I should be getting one in here soon to review!
Its impressive how alienware manages all that performance in such a thin profile. I would definitely pay more for the x17 compared to the raider
Its impressive that 👽 still didn't ship my stuff after 2.5 month
@@birdyashiro1226 chip shortages, better to get a refurbished Alienware from Dell outlet. I had the 17r 5 and it had so many issues Dell replaced it with the area 51m r2 with some upgrades.
@@etoirandolph665 So they should tell customers on the web before letting people pay🤌🏻
I ordered my x17 R1 on July 31, 2021 and they “lost” my laptop from dell HQ to fedex…. Had to call in myself inside of them reaching out to me about this situation… Did a replacement order and they told me it will ship to me in 8 business days and found out today that they don’t have parts in stock…. Now the eta is end of September….. Dell FTW
@@90jaemin Exactly, they delayed my shipping date three times. They don't give a sh*t.🤷🏻♂️ I am glad I cancelled the order. And I will never buy any Dell again😂
Nice content Justin! Also I have a question, which laptop gpu is worth going for, rtx 3050ti or 3060 because I don't have stretched enough budget for 3070 and 3080 though. Another one is does Alienware still maintain its Area 51m lineup anymore?
I recently jumped on the Alienware train from msi with a m15 r4. I absolutely love it so far. But the biggest deciding factor for me was dell's extended warranty. It's absolutely amazing.
Yeah Dan, I personally got the 3 year for my m17 R3. Haven’t had to use it yet though thankfully 🤞
@@JustinTechTips great review btw. I'd still be on the msi crew but a good warranty sold me. Keep up the good work sir!
Thank you Dan O’ will do! 🙂
got to love the alienware, before razer if not rog is the choice of most people as well as msi but today alienware they step up their gaming design to the level where i think they have the best design for gaming laptop side by side with the rog zephyrus if not razer (mostly just because razer is very thin and build like apple product).
Yeah The Old Fashioned one of the biggest downfalls for Alienware has been the overheating but this new cryotech cooling technology has changed all that
X17 is bogos binted 👽
not sure what that means Andrew, but it sounds cool!
Thank you for the video, I noticed that after enabling the Mux switch for X17, the benchmark score increased significantly (as per Mash IT), just wondering if you have tested X17 on an external screen?
Hey Raymond, yes the tests that I did were on an external screen so I could see what the max possible would be. Just didn't do any undervolting or GPU overclocking
@@JustinTechTips Does your x17 have high density or low density ram? One of the youtubers put low density ram into his x17 and was able to increase his benchmark scores.
Hey justIN I have heard that the r12 3090 version had some sort of bottleneck issues
Can you explain? Reviews read that the performance does not go as standard to the 11th gen i9 and 3090..
Yeah the R12 was fast but not as fast as it should be. I believe it was probably due to the smaller custom version of the 3090 that the R12 uses
Could you test out the HP Omen 17 (2021) with the RTX 3080, I would love to see a comparison to either of these laptops as the HP also offer 165 watts of gpu power.
That's a great idea Tyler! I can add that to my list. Not sure how long an Omen 17 would take to arrive though
Amazing machines! Curious tho, what kind a wall is that? It's cool
Thanks Riddick! I used a green screen :) I got the background from Envato 1.envato.market/vnDArv. Just search "Hexagon Glow"
@@JustinTechTips Thank you. Well you put great quality videos! 👍
which external numpad can you guys recommend??? ...Just got my new X17 after watching these videos and I went to Justin's link in the description but there was so many choices
Hey Jason, did you get the normal keyboard or the mechanical keyboard? I would try and get a NumPad with a similar feel so that it feels balanced between your two hands
The X17 webcam has lower resolution but has the advantage of being able to use Windows Hello for Windows login. I agree with the conclusion though that the GE 76 is the better of the 2. Both are fine machines.
Yeah Windows Hello is a pretty good feature that I didn't realize I would miss until I transitioned to the GE76 and have to type in a pin again. As if I'm back in 2018 or something!
@@JustinTechTips I suspect most gamers do not care much about the webcam anyway. Heck, my Asus G17 Scar laptop does not even have one!
I wonder if the x17 would perform a bit better now with the mux switch that has been enabled in the BIOS update...
Yeah D Grant, it helps a little bit
The design on the x17 elite NGL!!
is that good?
What is the fasting ram clock speed it's capable of? The stock is 4800. Can it be upgraded to 5600?
I won't, that's why clearly the MSI is the winner. MSI has more TDP W on their GPU which makes it even better.
Yeah Raven McClaw, super excited to test out the 12th Gen in a few days
Are msi laptopa reliable all in all? Ive read many bad reviews for the msi i.e. dangerous heating issues, cracking hinges, poor ventilation and so on.
Hey Mario, I wouldn't say they are less reliable than other big brand laptops
@@JustinTechTips thx gor the response, i guess ill have to pray that it gives me at least 5 years of quality performance
Woah! I have seen all your Alienware x17 reviews and it looks awesome! Hope i can get it soon :O
Yeah it is pretty great Bocay! Are you just waiting until Dell shows that they will deliver sooner? I know they are delayed quite a bit right now
Reading the comments should I hold off on the x17 and wait to see if they iron out the quirks? If so what's the average timeline for the upgraded versions between the release of the first version to the upgraded version?
Hey bluestratos what quirks were you concerned about? I don't think there is any bug or feature lack that would keep me from purchasing
@@JustinTechTips I bit the bullet and ordered the 3080 x17 r1 cuz I needed a new gaming laptop and 3d graphic design capable laptop for my electromagnetic physics courses. I was just reading comments about some heat issues with first round 10 and 20 series gtx cards so I wasnt sure if the 30 series came out flawless with that issue but I can't wait but dell is taking forever with mine.
@@JustinTechTips I'm getting it on Oct 13th I wish bestbuy had them but they don't :/
@@bluestratos1901 or took me over a month after ordering to get mine. Get a good cooler
@@octavius9685 don't the x17 r1 3080's only come in lunar light? If you show me otherwise I'm gonna be pissed as hell lol I wanted that darkside of the moon all black but beggars can't be choosers.
Great comparison 👌🏾
Thank you Stanley!
Hello how is ComfortView Plus activated alienware x17?
Sorry for the late reply Miguel Chong! Comfortview is always on by default
Just about to get my x17 3060. From what i have read online, element 31 is not in 3060 configuration. Will there be any thermal difference in 3060 vs element 31?? 3060 might have been applied with ordinary paste.
Hey karma, think one of the reasons they don’t need better more expensive thermal paste on the 3060 is because it won’t get as hot naturally than the 3070 and 3080. I wouldn’t worry too much about thermal throttling with a 3060. At least not on a machine with great cooling technology like the x17. Just FYI the RGB touchpad is only available with the 3080 model
Thank you very much for your video💖. I want to buy a laptop for heavy rendering with softwares like blender and ue5. Do you think msi ge76 is a good option? I'm worried that in a long rendering, for example, 2-3 hours, the device will get very hot and damaged. Thank you very much 💖
Hey Sara, yes the MSI GE76 will be amazing for rendering. Because it doesn't obsess over thinness like many other gaming laptops, it also has great thermals. You'll be fine rendering for 2-3 hrs. If you do get the MSI GE76 for rendering though, I recommend the latest 12th gen version.
2022 MSI GE76 with i9 and 3080Ti: bit.ly/MSI_GE76_Raider_12900HK (The Most Powerful)
2022 MSI GE76 with i7 and 3070Ti: bit.ly/MSI_GE76_3070Ti (Best Bang for your Buck)
@@JustinTechTips thank you very much 💖💖💖
Hi guys, I just bought the msi ge76, do anyone know where could I get the laptop case cover for it? Please let me know. Thank youuuu
Hey Nguyen, convertible laptop bags like the one I got are the way to go! I love mine amzn.to/39D4pDv
Bravo... Both are gaming beasts.... Kong v. Godzilla in Tech ...
Yeah thats a great comparison Ahsan! Two gaming monsters!
This IS the video I was looking for. I was thinking of retiring my MSI GE75 and unfortunately MSI GE76 Raider has a limited stock availability.
I might just get the Alienware X17.
Hey siLvercross! Not sure if you saw my community post today but I just recieved word that B&H just got a few GE76 machines in stock! bhpho.to/2XFFrkl
can use windows hello in MSI ge76? you didnt mention it
Hey Sina, you're right sorry about that! No unfortunately Windows Hello is not available with the GE76. It is on the Alienware x17 though
How many decibels fan noise on both laptops?
Great info content.
Thank you so much Angry As Hell! I really appreciate that! 🙂
Great video as always
Thank you Jojo!
New subscriber here! Great review keep it up 🔥
Thank you Jakuza! Glad to have you on the channel!
Alienware x17 is clearly a better option in my opinion FPS wise it would run more and all gamers do need high FPS so yh I prefer x17 tbh
Hey XXinvincibleproXX_YT these tests actually showed the GE76 with a little more FPS but there’s a few other factors that make me like the Alienware better
I've had my x17 for over a month now and let me tell you, it was worth every fucking dollar. The 4k screen is buttery smooth and turns heads when I use it at work. I run cyberpunk at 4k for hours and it never goes over 73c. Yes it gets a bit loud, but with the power its putting out, it's not a big deal. The only real complaint I have is the lack of a number keys on the side, but I understand why they needed the extra vent space. I added a 2tb NVME and this bitch is loaded.
4k 17"
i7-11800
32GB 3466mhz
2tb NVME
This gonna be my daily for a couple years.
Yeah Cutz usually all the haters a ready to jump on Alienware since they are popular and rip them apart, but I’m hearing crickets on this new series
Are you using the 3070 or 3080
@@jimmyjoe1591 pretty sure you can buy it customized to 2tb
Just to let you know, the X17 actually has a mux switch, you just have to enable it, so that would bring extra performance.
Yeah I saw they added that in the BIOS! 🙂
@@JustinTechTips so overal the x17 is better now?
@@Roughneck484 yeah I wonder it as well
@@JustinTechTips can you do another review
Alienwaress performance should be pretty close to MSI after switch is enabled. I also think Alienwares warranty Superseeds MSI.
Thanks for the great reviews. I'm focused on the MSI. No keypad on the Alienware takes it out of the running for me.
No problem TexMan11! Yeah I figured that would be a deal breaker for some people!
I actually rly like the fact that it doesnt have the keypad i never use them so it feels better for my fingers
Been loving all of the x17 content you’ve been putting out. Really helped with my decision, thanks!
No problem Logan! Love making this content for you guys!
Thank you,you helped me decide which laptop should I get, and i decided msi ge76 with qud display and 165hz.
Thanks bro ❤
Congrats MTJ! You are going to absolutely love that powerful BEAST!
Overall for all intents and purposes they are fairly even.
The main difference is that the X17 looks and feels more premium with a much thinner profile, reminiscent of Apples Macbook Air.
Yeah Ingaz, it really does have premium feel to it
Is it metal ?
The x17 is a head turner. I've had a number of co-workers see my shit and say, "wtf is that?" Most people don't know how good it gets.
@@octavius9685 🤣🤣🤣
I have one X17, I totally agree, this machine has the best look and feel, very solid and premium. The only thing that disappoints me is the quality of the FHD display, reading text on Windows 11 is a terrible experience.
Interesting comparison. I have the x17 R2. Previously I had the 17 R4. I liked the R4 much better. The 17 came with the number pad. Plus you could read the shift characters unlike the x17. I felt more comfortable with the 17 than the x17.
The two are not much different from each other the choice is according to taste ... I prefer MSI GE76 I love this company
Yeah Cross Hairs it kind of does come down to personal preference based on all the pros and cons of each that I mentioned. My personal preference is on laptops that perform the best for creative software which is in this case different than the best laptop for gaming
Hi nice video so I like both of them but I don’t know which one should I buy it, in Best Buy they have the Alienware X17 3070 16gb price $2.549
In B&H they have the GE76 3070 32bg for $2.499
I just play one game fifa 22 soccer,
So please witch one should I buy it ?…
sorry for the late reply guillermo! Are you talking about this specific GE76 on B&H? bhpho.to/3Fi5PkL I would go with that one for the best gaming performance
Nice comparison thanks.I got Ge76 raider. First day after hours of simulation then 10+ hours of gpu rendering it is goddamn overkill machine with zero bloating, zero regret. Best cpu, best gpu, best ram, best ssd, best cooling. Beside X17 is also real competitor for serious business not only for gamers. Was my second choice.
Congrats cem gul! Yeah you're going to have some great years with that beast. What kind of simulations do you do?
@@JustinTechTips TurbulenceFD stuff, explosion, smoke, clouds. Soon gotta get my hands dirty in Houdini.
I wanted to ask this, on the noise level for the fans. Is the fans stay on most of the time running strong or will they settle down to a whisper quiet if just working on the internet?
@@justin427aex Yes they're always quiet for daily works internet, adobe software works etc. You can hear them only with high cpu or gpu load works such as rendering and heavy gaming.
Guys don’t buy any of them if you see in some parts of USA the prices are going down why?… because the new models are coming soon the msi it’s gonna be amazing with 4 fans and the design it’s not gonna be like plastic it’s gonna be a better material and the logo which is in the front now it’s gonna be rgb you can change colors, and the new 17 Alienware now it’s gonna como in 3 colors white grey and black and with some more changes, i started working in Best Buy so that’s why I know that ..,.
Thanks for the advice guillermo! Love all the tips from insiders! 🙂
I was trying to decide between these two computers and your review could not have been more timely. I’m going to go with the GE 76 and I will use your affiliate link. Thanks!
Thank you Johnathan! 🙂 Yeah it’s kinda creepy how UA-cam knows what videos to put on your home page. It’s like they can read my mind!
The best channel I ve seen on reviewing….I am really impressed with your way of presenting…..LOVE FROM 🇮🇳
I really appreciate that MinhaM 7! Thanks for the love from India! 🙂
Hey by the way is there any option for buying RTX 3080 version of x17 from India…..and what’s ur opinion about them not giving a qhd panel and a 1TB storage for their 3080 version within the price included
I am contemplating getting an X17. They have a screen option for the 1920x1080 FHD 360Hz monitor of the UHD 3840x2160 4ms 120hz. I game primarily in addition to doing some work stuff, which does not include any form of rendering or content creation. Just wondering your take on it?
I would buy the MSI GE76, The Lenovo Legion 7 is also a beast for gaming.
Hey Tessie, I’ve got a Legion 7 AMD coming in soon!
@@JustinTechTips Damn, bro! Waiting heavily!
Estimated Delivery date is the 30th so the following week I'll be doing an unboxing and then a full review and LIVE benchmarks the week after that
Great comparison! I don’t regret choosing the Alienware x17. Your channel is awesome! Best wishes!!
Thank you Ninja! 🙂
MSI GP76 is better laptop because only 2000€ (2000$~). For gaming you wanna go for 1080P and preferably 240hz screen. 1080p 3070 140W > 1440p 3080W 165W.
I prefer the Alienware for the design as well. Although the secondary functions not lighting up is a little annoying.
Yeah Gareth, for such an amazing machine it was kind of weird taking a step back with that feature
I will dissagree about design. Having rgb logo on the back and rgb on air exhaust is absolutely pointless. MSI makes more sense having rgb at the front and nothing at the back. In my opinion it also just looks better.
Yeah that's a good point MaDDex. I also really appreciate the secondary key illumination on the GE76. It's just stupid not to have it in 2022
Justin , once again another great content.
It is clearly showing that you are a hardworking person and care about videos that you're making , keep it up.👏
Do you have any idea of Dell's guarantee?
Is it worth it to get their services?
Your big fan from iran🇮🇷
Thank you Ali! I really appreciate that! I purchased a 3 year warranty/support from them when I got my m17 r3 but I personally haven’t had to use it yet so I’m not sure how good it is
Unfortunately this beast are not available in my country. Should I go for gp 76 ? My main priority is gaming and programming.
Still X17 for me. Looks so premium 😍
Just waiting for the damn thing to be delivered 🙄
Hey Lee how long ago did you order yours?
@@JustinTechTips hey man. Around 4 weeks ago. Like a kid waiting for Christmas 🤣
@@JustinTechTips Just recieved a email stating been a further delay for the 9th of September 🙈
@@leechurchill5182did you ever receive it? My girlfriend is waiting on hers as well, ordered July 12th
@@kernoleary1394 yes still waiting.....been absolute joke. Nearly cancelled the order twice but that isn't going to help the situation. My problem is the i9 proccesser 98k. I've managed to contact dell direct and find that out for myself.
Thanks for the review. I have purchased the MSI GE76 Raider.
congrats Lary!
The ventilation on the x17 is amazing!
No
Yes
I miss my number pad tho, but I understand why they removed it. With a good cooler, this shit still runs at good temps.
You just randomly got recommended to me when I was searching Aphex Twin (what?) but this was a great comparison. I personally have a beef with MSI right now because the RTX 2080 in my flagship GT76 Titan died after 13 months (one month out of warranty), so I'd definitely consider Alienware next time. I'm waiting for RTX 4000 before my next big purchase though. Anyway, nice vid and I'm subbing for future content. Cheers.
Thanks Killer Ra! Oh wow that's some bad luck right there. Sorry to hear that. I can't wait to get my hands on RTX 4000 machines!
I have the legion 7 2080 super same as what this video shows as having extremely good thermals. which is weird because my legion burned out about 1 month over a year. I started seeing problems with my graphics and cpu after only about 8 months of using it. so I knew it was likely going to burn out soon after. which it did. 2300$ this company wiped their ass with my money. but from my experience my legion got pretty hot, i couldnt run doom eternal, i gave up on that game after a few nights letting it get super super cold in my house during the winter and I could only play 20 minutes of that game at most and I couldnt get my cpu to be less than 80c to 86c. so I couldnt play doom eternal at all even when I turned the settings as low as i could. got to about lvl 3 and uninstalled the game, didnt want to trash my laptop. And it normally ran games like warzone and coldwar at around 74c to 81c and i tried to keep it lower but couldnt always get down below 80. too hot imo. im looking for a laptop that can do much better as far as thermals go. id like to run at 60c always. seems like even the best laptops of 2021 are even hotter and would priobably burn out much much faster than my legion. is laptop gaming actually a thing or is the industry a scam? ive been having a hard time keeping one running. And I cant get the information out of these fucking youtubers. and the information I do get, they all have wildy differing information and benchmarks. one youtuber will give thermals on a laptop being super good like in the 70c range and then another youtuber will give thermal readings on that same laptop that look way worse. seems like these youtubers fill the airspace and make it hard for consumers to get an accurate measure from any real voices out there, and they are extremely biased with trying to make sales probably. its hard to get a real dude whose used the pc for his own personal and just give us his run down. fuckn hate youtubers for this reason. theyre so full of shit and contradict each other on just about every facet of their reviews.
Did he talk about game performance like FPS and ping??
I talked about FPS but not ping
I don't know why I always watches tech UA-camrs , and I don't have any gaming laptop or desktop.
I have only one laptop that is too old the processor is
Intel Celeron N2840 with Intel HD Graphics
No dedicated graphics card or GPU
Ram is 4gb
Display 1366p
I would like to take this opportunity please give me a change to win this giveaway and i live in africa
Hey Cabdi, I really wish I could afford to giveaway a computer. The giveaway I do every week is for an Amazon Gift Card
Thank you! Such quality and a superbly satisfying review of two titans. Subscribed! Picking between the both for black Friday deals and the MSI(for being cheaper at just $1999) looks like the winner to me!
Thank you! Glad you're liking the videos BAM Dad!
You should include some of the negative aspects as well . On one You tube channel I recently finished watching had more of Technical side and unlike most channels with bogus reviews . The lighting for these so called Gaming Laptops is without a shadow of doubt Lame. Obviously built for individuals who live in never never land . Alienware X17 Laptop is just butt ugly . The software issues have never been ironed out and the speakers aren't any better than a low spec smart phone.
Yeah angus young, I definitely wouldn't agree the x17 is ugly. I did talk about negatives in this review as well. Also compared benchmarks for the technical side, but I guess I can do more of that in the future for these comparisons. My full reviews on each of these machines go a lot more in depth
Either purchase will delight. It is important to note the compromises on each machine. The secondary key function lighting drives me bonkers, but the keyboard feel is worth it.
Yeah Christopher, I agree. I absolutely love the feel of the mechanical keyboard. Definitely worth the $50 upgrade, not sure why it was so hard to make it all glow
@@JustinTechTips Likely an oversight I think. The original videos showed the other functions glowing. I think they got the keys made, realized the problem and already had orders. Supplier shenanigans?
yeah seems like a lot of shenanigans going on lately with supply "due to covid" and possibly some cutting corners
I don't get it what's the problem ? The numbers doesn't glow ?
@@reboucasdev5192 Secondary key functions are not lit. So 4 is it, but not the $ on the same key. It's rather silly.
WHy pay $3000+ for a gaming laptop when you can buy XBox Series X for under $1k on Amazon?
I think its because people like gaming where ever they want with ease, screen included, and want a fast computer for other things other than gaming as well.
Dang it, I really want a X17. Love all the info you are putting up. Maybe I will buy one :D
Hey Emil, if you get one what config do you think you’ll get?
@@JustinTechTips I think I would go for the i7, 1080 165 hz screen, ddr4 xmp 32 gb ram 3466 mhz, 1 tb hard drive. What do you think? 😀
So your telling men if I'm working on Adobe/Maxon programs I should get Alienware X17 but if I'm a gamer I should stick to MSI GE76? Ugh!
Hey Sullivan, according to the performance numbers yes that's what I recommend
This is content that I was looking for a while and finally it's here.
Glad I could help anoojlal!
Let's be real with the better cooling on the X17 if you enable the mux and throw a slight undervolt on the cpu you're looking at pretty much identical performance for gaming. Not to mention the lottery difference in your test units with high density ram on the X17 vs the low density on the raider. If it was apples to apples with low density on both, the X17 would probably be near identical out of the box.
Yeah I wish I had better RAM at the time of this recording to test that theory out with
Dude I had a zephyrus g14 and It just melted awful laptop it overheated so much, I'm trying to buy one of these Wich will you recommend me, I play dota and warzone
O wow it melted?! That's awful! The GE76 had slightly better performance than the x17. Also right now it seems the 3080 of the x17 is sold out and even the 3070s are taking forever to be delivered from Dell so you'll want to order from Amazon amzn.to/3m8LzLo or Best Buy bestbuy.7tiv.net/qnEezb. You can still get the GE76 3080 version from Amazon if you can afford the best of the best amzn.to/3jQiMZt. I like the design of the x17 a little better but if design isn't a factor in your choice I would go with that maxed out GE76 for best frame rates in those games.
Loving these videos..keep up the amazing work
Thank you Rajiv! More coming every Friday!
Im getting Msi Ge76 i9 11th gen with Rtx 3080gpu to replace my M17 r3 2080 super. Do you think its a good decision?
Hey Joe! Yes I think you will be a lot happier with that machine. However unless you are doing 4k editing or rendering I wouldn't waste your money on an i9. An i7 should be just fine
Great video as always :)
Thank you Adam!
Bro justin "tech tips"? You will never be a thing with that name because it's too much of a shameless rip off
Hey Atticus, the thought crossed my mind that some people would think that but then I figured that "tech tips" was so generic and not a very original phrase. I have been thinking about modifying the channel name a little though since you're not the first person to say that. Definitely want to keep JustIN as it's my name but also referring to tech just in
That dragon edition tiamat is unreal, you should've used that one 😂
Yeah that one is legit!
same internal is it not?
I will get mine tomorrow!
Congrats!
I probably won't even look at all the rgb lighting while playing games on these. For me I feel like take 300$ less but give me same config :)
Yeah AsHu, I figured there would be some people that don't care about any of that and just want great functionality for the lowest price
These laptops gets really good when you reinstall Windows. All of that bloatware does a number on the system, even with those specs. Would be curious to see what your results are after that.
I would think just uninstalling the bloatware or not having it run would be sufficient enough. I don't think they bring down the performance that much when they aren't running
My friend I am very fund fund of gaming but couldn't afford money to buy any gaming PC or console I hope I won this gaming laptop
Hey Mudassar, unfortunately I can't afford to giveaway computers yet as my monthly income is only like 1k right now. The giveaway that I do is for an Amazon.com Gift Card. I am doing a review for the Acer Nitro 5 though. This laptop is only $750! Hopefully it performs well since a lot of people have been requesting more affordable laptops to be reviewed
Man can somebody help get the Alienware stock wallpapers back on my laptop. I must’ve forgotten how to do it
Yeah GROOVYFERNY 90, here you go! www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000178189/alienware-wallpapers
Among X17, GE76 and Legion 7, if you had to rank these based on overall perspective (performance, price, build, ergonomics, etc), how would you do it?
I think overall experience the x17 has my vote. The GE76 is just slightly faster with gaming but the x17 is faster with creative apps that I use more often
What about the resize bar support for the rtx 3080 on the laptop? Have you looked into that? So many people keep making video comparison on these laptops but no one can address the resize bar support on them when I ask about it. I guess I'll figure it out my self once I recieve my x17
Hey Sam, I’ve already sent the x17 back since recording so I’m not able to check that unfortunately:/
I like the alienware better....the design is more superior😍😍
Yeah I agree Erickson
With the Alienware, getting the low density (double-sided) ram gives you a ~15% boost to performance in all areas. So you were comparing a gimped version here.
It comes with the low density ram if you get the 32GB version. Not sure why some ram options use high density ram. But it can also be upgraded by the user.
Yeah Jesse, I'm starting to do multiple tests with my reviews now with upgraded RAM to show people what new machines really are capable of with just a little more RAM love
Does the 16gb version have the high density ram? Or only 64?
@@kernoleary1394 The 16GB has the high density. The 32 and 64 have low density, which is faster.
@@jessestewart5109 interesting it would have been great if they listed this on their website when i specd the laptop out with my gf. It just says 3200 vs 3466 ram. Since shes using it exclusively for gaming i told her 16gb would be fine. Wasnt expecting a 15% performance difference from a few hundred mhz... :/
@@kernoleary1394 Yeah, it's really weird. 16GB is a very popular option and should come with low density too. But, even though it's annoying, you can upgrade very easily yourself in the future.