Why Putin Doesn't Need To Follow The Rules Of War
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The Rules Of War That Must Not Be Broken
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Having rules of wars kinda resigns us to the idea that there will always be war and the world will never really know peace.
Your pronunciation of words are terrible "Hague" "mercenaries" just to name two. Would maybe suggest looking up how to say words that you are no familiar with instead of just reading them. Good video though, broke the topic down well.
@@lukemurray4950 English isn’t his mother tongue, have some respect. Try speaking a couple languages.
@@lukemurray4950 oh and by the way, the Hague, which is “den Haag” in Dutch, is pronounced like he pronounces it in its original language.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Luke
@@Stellar-Cowboy why you so offended? Who hurt you? I was pointing out mistakes. It's nothing to be offended over you sad little person.
"It's not a war crime if you won."
US Army is an Army of angels who are run by angels as well.... they came to our countries in the middle east shot flowers, freedom and democracy, then they went back home very happy ... and we are very happy as well.
and that's why I love USA unlike the evil RUSSIA
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- Winston Churchill
Victor's write the Story.
That's rule one
Its not a war crime if you the goodguy (usa, isreal, eu)
Your war crimes when you win:
"Wow, thats so weird, they just disappeared."
hahahaha this is sadly true
What war crimes? We won!
Ww1 canada is the perfect example they really loved mustard gas
@@xavierm5258 And strapping German teens to the front of their tanks as they drove around.
Japan and Turkey be like: Yeah what he said.
LESSON: You can avoid answering for your crimes if you’re powerful enough. That’s equality for you.
If you're powerful enough, you make the rules
@@boslyporshy6553 correction: if you’re powerful enough you can have a total disregard for morality without any consequences.
Supreme Ally Law, you can't punish yourself
USA 1945
USSR 1945
Briton 1945
(Germany, Japan, China, Africa, Asia, Latin America) :fairness please
Allies: We will try our best
World: Our heroes😃✨
With power comes great responsibility. If you are not responsible enough, then, who cares, you have the power to change things.
Also by not signing on to international agencies such as the International Criminal Court, by passing laws in your own country allowing your military to use whatever means necessary including force to free any member of your armed forces or citizens as well as those of allied nations (even if they are signatory to lCC) from lCC custody or enabling your government to sanction any member of the lCC for investigating your war criminals.
USA
Rule 0 of the rule of War. They are completely non-enforceable. On the international stage, there is only 1 rule and that's the rule of diplomacy. international relations dictate. On the international stage, rules are guidelines. They are only apprehended by the interest of both parties, both being equal. When interests shift, and power changes, these guidelines falter. Laws that are not enforceable are not laws. they are guidelines. There is no law. There is no justice. There are only agreements, partnerships and the law of Power.
Opinion: The international stage is therefore more like the wild west than anything else (How would a society without laws look, pretty much like the united nations). Laws don't exist, but people do have morals. However, interests of individuals/nations go above morals and above all else. To solve "the problem of the rules of war" (it being non-enforceable), we must therefore first make laws enforceable internationally. However, this would go against the principle of the sovereignty of nations. To solve the problem of the rules of war, we must therefore solve "the problem of nations" first.
@@mauritsbol4806 its as simple as "the guy with the biggest stick is in charge". And good luck trying to get rid of countries without causing WW3 lol.
@@mauritsbol4806 Great explanation. I always compared it to the wild west as well.
They are completely enforceable if the countries responsible for them are capable of such power projection, and sufficiently driven by interest. Anything can be enforced if one has the power to do so, it's not just some magic area of politics which lacks enforcement capability.
Another way of putting this, for instance, is that NATO can't really prosecute Russia for war crimes, they can however justify military support to places like India, China and their own populations to Ukraine.
"I had no idea they existed before making this video"
Me: damn, did I do the right thing in subscribing to this channel for anything related to geopolitics?
Fact: US did not sign to be a member of ICJ in Haugue, which means any war crime dony by them cannot be trailed at ICJ.
Fact: USA saved Europe from German power, saved Asia from Japanese power.
The good with the bad with the reality.
@@Tethloach1 I would rather live under third reichs regime than current US one
@@invasion8318 No you would not. You just would not. The US has ruined multiple countries and commited loads of unjustifiable invasions and crimes, but the Nazis actively exterminated millions of people due to racial ideologies. As bad as the US is currently, the Nazis were ten times worse
@@invasion8318 😂😂says someone living in sum 3rd world country tht secretly admires the US🤡
@@Tethloach1 The USA didn't do anything meaningful In Europe, although they played a key role in Asia
For thousands of years, the rules of war were present to provide your own soldiers with a code of ethics that would both make them more mentally durable in the field, more effective, and make it more likely that they can be integrated back into society once war is over.
This is less of an issue if you:
- are not intending to bring your soldiers home. That is, have a desired goal of killing much of your own army, because they are compromised of ethnic minorities that you wish to cleanse, or other undesirables, and
- you are waging total war with a goal of completely eliminating your target population, either by directly killing them, or deporting them.
You mean like America has been doing for 50+yrs?
Lol no, rules of war are not actually real, and more like unspoken rules. I won't kick you in the nuts or try to poke your eyes out, if you don't do the same to me. It's just based on honor. Lol "mentally durable" rural people don't go through PTSD their whole life is like military training, only urbanite city dwellers experience that
Total wars of conquest
1940s Germany
1940s Japan
19th Century USA
@@hassanalbolkiah127 what a load of shit
Source: trust me bro.
Who enforces the rules? Whoever has the power and interest in doing so.
You have a point..
At the moment no-one
UN at the International Criminal Court in The Hague, Netherlands. But ICC not recogised by US or RU afaik. And it's because genocide and stuff is bad... "The most prominent people charged with committing war crimes during the Bosnian War were Slobodan Milošević, who died in prison before his trial ended, and Radovan Karadžić, Ratko Mladić, and Slobodan Praljak, all of whom were convicted"
The americans have a Special Master - that we just have to marvel at!
What about GW Bush or J Biden?
War crimes are for losing side
Feels like I watched this on another channel weeks earlier.........
Why There's Rules In Content Creation, That OBF Does Not Follow
What about American war crimes in Vietnam and in other countries? Basically it boils down to who has power.
Power in media.
or in iraq
6:20 It has been fairly common in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Libya for insurgents to use hospitals, schools and apartments to shoot at soldiers.
I knew there were some war laws, just because it's hard to not come by someone talking about war crimes, and that's why I knew there were war laws, though I didn't know they were categorised nor did I know what laws there are. But thanks for making the video, you certainly taught me something new today
Wait a minute, did he just say there was 100 million active mines laying around the world.
I remember at boot camp they taught us the rules of engagement…. And we didn’t follow anything we were told to put civilians at risk (U.S. army)
Everyone is equal but lets make some exceptions for USA, Europe, and major powers. Because they are perfect but human, their mistakes don't count.
USA war record clean. Yep.
Sure, I’m sure you did Chinese bot
I wouldn't doubt that for a second
@@hollister2320 silence anime pfp
Morals aside, committing war crimes left and right isn't actually good for the party commiting them.
The best thing a commander can hope for is for the enemy to surrender, ideally as soon as possible. Fighting is risky and costly, so a surrendering enemy means you've just saved yourself a whole lot of hurt.
But that's a whole lot less likely to happen if you've built a reputation as someone who tortures or kills POWs. Enemy soldiers are far more likely to fight to the bitter end if they believe they truly have nothing to lose...
That and war crimes might eventually come back to haunt you if you're ever called to answer for your actions...
Yeah, true. But the thing about that last sentence is, what's really annoying is when a country, like Japan, refuses to acknowledge and continue to deny the atrocities they committed.
the list in the start of the video looks like a checklist the russian miliatry hands out to its soldiers before sending them out
Putin:Break all these laws
@@heidirabenau511 Bush: invade 2 nations over "false intel"
and US as well
More like Ukrainians back in 2014
Thank you for finishing my to-do list.
Simply, these rules weren't made by world countries, but by the dominant superpowers.
Anybody stated these rules to America when they invaded iraq and Afghanistan?
Geneva Convention. but yknow, they got the money, the bully wins
I guess nobody told these rules to Russia
@@chaosXP3RT Considering the low civilian casualty number in this size of conflict, I would say they are following them pretty well. Might wanna look in to those totally innocent and not nahtzee ukrainians
I honestly was shocked to realize throughout this that not everyone is aware of or understands even loosely about the rules of war and war crimes. Having said that, I specifically focus on History, Politics, Empire, and War, in my studies... so I often don't remember what normal people know on these subjects.
if the ICC hands out 14 year sentences for genocide, its no wonder such war crimes continue. How can deterrence occur with such paltry consequences that may or may not be enforced
Would the nuking of Japan be considered a war crime?
Can't tell for sure but those locaions were militart industry hubs.
Yes. The Japanese had already sued for peace.
Yes but rule one says if you win it doesn't count
After that the US destroyed 95% of buildings in korea, and so on and so forth.
@@driedbrainfreeze2149 No, Japan refused to surrender to either The Soviets or the Americans unless they got to keep some of their empire (most importantly to them, Korea).
Bro really did an ad for a WW3 Game 💀💀
War breaks out
“I’m a civilian ! You can’t kill me !”
…good luck with that.
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the idea of rules to war kinda just makes it sound like a game honestly. like i understand we dont want missiles fired out of space stations but at the same time i think the threat of mutual destruction via nukes is enough
There's no rules if you're the winner in the end.
The question is not who committed war crimes but how Russia will pay for it
NATO: "The first rule of war is to have fun!"
“Striking civilians is forbidden”
Funny that the rules made by the US don’t apply to them.
When I say “funny”, I mean revolting, obviously.
Was it made by the US? They only voted for it
corn ball
The one rule that nobody has broken to my knowledge is blades/knife's must be flat so a person's life can be saved. No 3 or 4 sided knife's.
Like the unwritten rule of "no hitting the nuts" in a fight between two men.
Henri Dunant was those historical figures we took for granted.
Cynics might mock humanitarianism and Geneva Convention as being useless in realpolitik until they became war victims first-handed.
And still be useless. Unless I'm mistaken, unless they are planning to charge Russia, it does nothing to dictators. Lives are statistics after all.
"Everyone follow the rules of war until they are at war" -mickey mouse
Nice video
Rule 1 of warfare, if you are not winning, you are not using enough force. And rule number 1 of warfare as well. There is no such things as overkill. And rule 1 of warfare again, there is no such things as war crimes unless you lose the war. And rule number 1, if conflict is unavoidable, hit preemptively and as hard as possible. And number 1 rule finally, never show your hand and keep the best poker face
Last rule, if you are going to lose, make sure no one wins
That kind of analogy would have ended the world during the Cold war.
@@arrly means the opponents on both sides were cowards
Oh, it's hard to remember/ care for rules when bullets are flying and bombs are dropping.
Where is the best place for a military installation?
Under a hospital.
Or in a childrens park
Don't shoot medics, don't shoot fleeing; and no mines, gasses, cluster-munitions,or even shotguns ;)
Also, not reporters ☝
Don’t shoot media members.. Unfortunate that it is still hard to see the big “PRESS,” sign from far away and that bombs/artillery does not discriminate
Seeing videos for example that even Ukraine had technically committed war crimes of killing fleeing Russian forces.
@@tristanbackup2536 "even Ukraine"
Why you say this like it's an unusual thing for them? This country literally committed a gen*cide in 2014
As a certain infamous pirate quote it:
"The 'code' is what you'd call guidelines than actual rules."
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it's like someone went through all the checkmarcks pen-in-hand
one of the rule is to not kill health care workers, as its against the geneva convention after ww2, also as a front line healthcare worker, i am happy but also terrified as i feel that i have a mark on my head
*Rule of War exists*
American : *I can't see that I have oil in my eyes*
"All Is Fair in Love and War"
"To the Victor, Go the Spoils"
"The Winners Write The History Books"
The winners don't write the history books
Like Caeser
just checking, does anyone know if this has been plagerized, if so Id like to watch the original videos. But I know OBF does also produce original content which is why I'm asking
Whenever i see a thing about war rules and war crimes, i imagine putin and his generals in a room, playing bingo on the ones they broke.
Lesson one of international law: There's no such thing as international law... Unfortunately
In war there aint no rules🤷
Geneva Suggestions
Wait how the hell didn't you know there are rules for war?
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Talks about war crimes and civilian casualty starts...
USA slowly and awkwardly left the building.
And more importantly, is a war crime even enforceable, and if it is not enforceable, what's the point.
To what extent is it a law, rule, or is it more like a guideline.
Laws that are not enforceable are not laws. they are guidelines.
The point is to punish your adversary if you have power to do so.
Rule 0 of the rule of War. They are completely non-enforceable. On the international stage, there is only 1 rule and that's the rule of diplomacy. international relations dictate. On the international stage, rules are guidelines. They are only apprehended by the interest of both parties, both being equal. When interests shift, these guidelines falter. There is no law. There is no justice. There are only agreements, partnerships and the law of Power.
@@julius43461 no, the point is to put pressure on those who have power to do right, and to be a guideline for what is morally right. To make distinction between acts that are acceptable. It for example helps ukraine to deal with prisoners of war. How should they prosecute them? How to distinguish a soldier from some1 who committed a genocide in Bucha? These guidelines help local governments what to do. How to prosecute, and determine what is 'fair'.
@@mauritsbol4806 I was just referring to how it serves as a nice way to stick it up to your enemies. Every war, just accuse your enemy of committing war crimes, do some photoshots, tell your ally to bomb some civilian buildings themselves and you are all set.
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But Russia got voted out of UN, is there a different council about the security Council at 11:40?
In a war, nothing is off the table.
All Rules are for Small Countries Only.
You can't get Prison time for war crimes if you aren't alive for the time
More like rules you have to follow unless you could get caught and there is actually someone willing to hold you accountable for it while having the power to do so. And any rule can be bypassed with excuses as per Karl Schmitt's State of Exception which is much more easier to utilize now by liberal democracies thanks to the power of mass media influence. Schmitt must be rolling in his grave right now seeing how the "liberal democracies" that he criticized for their seemingly religion-like rigidness when it came to following rules actually managing to make even better utilization of his idea to break laws and get away with it.
Holding someone accountable for warcrimes = asking to get nuked by the US because you would have to invade it to get to bush and obama and clinton
That is why you have ROE's (Rules of Engagement), given to us from our Commanders. I was in Iraq in 2003 and the ROE's were kill anything that moves, my last deployment in 2006-07, the ROE's had changed to; you can only shoot at someone if you see them actually engaging you.
In the US, I know of two cases of a group of Army and Marines that were charged and convicted of these crimes; they where crimes that you see here committed in the US, the difference is that they add "WAR" to those crimes and that makes it so much worse; and I don't know about the rest of the militaries around the world but in our military we have a "catch all" that even if you get acquitted... Article 134 of the UCMJ.
War is hell and there are no rules in hell.
Rules are to be broken, not to follow
War is the disregard of rules
4:30 War is for the warriors...and ONLY the warriors.
This rule should also include that civilians will not be targeted in cyber attacks
says who? tech companies are the only one fighting against constant cyber attacks, gov't kinda just there in physical warfare
I'm suprise the rule of war existed, I never knew war has rules. I didn't expected it.
War crimes are only enforced if you lose
Sound soo good on paper. But.......
what an abrupt ending
There is only one unforgivable war crime, losing.
victor's justice
they need to put him down, one way or the other if he does not go to trial
10:58 only 14 years?!?!
Russia: Gotta break 'em all.
as a aircraft enthusiast Russia destroying An-225 is biggest war crime
rules of war? 12 years for crimes against humanity isn't rules of war its a meme of a punishment
02:50 It's a French name, you're pronouncing it in English insteaad of French. Hope this bit helps.
There is only one rule of war: "Win and nobody is going to be able to judge you"
Edit: In Ukraine the "Geneva Convention" became the "Geneva Checklist"
its sad but there’s only 1 rule in war its to win
12 and 14 years for crimes against humanity. Less than your average murder sentence for far more human suffering than your average murder.
Everything is fair in love and war....
There is only 1 rule: Might makes right.
Might rules right
valefisk moment
Basically the community guidelines no one follows
Yes & no. I had family who served in the Australian Army, so much look at a civilian funny has a F*CKTONNE of paperwork. A few of our special forces that did in Afghanistan, got life in prison, it was a huge controversy here a few years ago when the story leaked. Rules of engagement is very strict here in our military.
*See Israel
If only the UN Security Council worked :(
It can't really work if one country can nullify the votes of 100+
My solution is to just disband the council entirely. One nation, once corrupted, can veto any votes that serve justice, and the permanently serve as "superior" to others.
@@lekevire any nation is corrupted and must be corrupted if it means following it's interests
Have never been so early
Great video!
Here's hoping that the coming nuclear winter lasts for a solid two centuries.
The first rule of warfar is to get a drink and a snack.
I see what you did there
War itself is biggest crime to humanity
We all have seen what the Russians did in Syria, along with western complacency, Ukrain was unfortunately inevitable
look at what the americans did to north korea 70 years ago!!!!!
Carpet bombing of North Vietnam cities, Laos, Cambodia and Thailand, chemical warfare via Agents Orange and Blue, carpet bombing of N Korean citiesbombing retreating lraqi forces in Kuwait War, mass targeting of civilian infrastructure in Desert Storm etc etc
Lol they did what? Almost single handedly destroyed a major threat to the world?
Ah my bad, I forgot ISIS dudes are your allies.
4:05
Are these rules followed by nato in Afghanistan or in Iraq or Syria and Yemen????? So rules only applies if its a European countries like Ukraine???
ok
The only rule is to win, because victory demand no explications. Just look at what the US did to Serbia in 99, today almost no one remember and care, well Russia ofc remember, and intend to the same in Ukraine..
The US prevented a genocide in Serbia. It's the exact opposite of the Ukraine war, unless you're sorely misinformed.
@@Emanon... Prevented a genocide ? hahahahahaha bombarding civilian for 3 months with 37 465 raids with a median at 480/day, i mean, if you kill everyone it's not a genocide anymore just a dirty war, typical US strategy xD
@@Emanon... That's the exact same pretext Russia used for it's miliatry operation in Ukraine. Protecting Donbass from genocide. Very one sided here aren't we?
The main question is not what about Putin but what about Bush, both of them. Once the world answer that, we can proceed. There are 2 set of rules, therefore no rule at all. Law for thee but not for me.