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Fixing Muddy Well Water, Chemical Cleaning & Liner Install.
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In this video I try to Rehab a 50+ Y/O Water Well. Using Chemicals to break down the iron & other bacteria that's present. The goal to install a 60ft liner wasnt achieved due to a small borehole. Although I was able to raise the well above grade & seal off 17ft of the upper portion of the well (the old galvanized casing). The end result was still a success!
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Saved that customer a lot of money great job.
I did my first well and it was for my friend. His family was with out water for over 2 weeks and he could afford the price the company want for the pump or to do the service. We got a pump from tractor supply bc that what he could afford. The old wire was still good, but it did have 1 splice. 2 hots no ground wire, so i ran a ground wire. The black roll pipe had 1 splice, too. I crimped, then rubber tape, then electrical tape like u did. The wire was not taped very well to the pipe, so I taped it every 2 or 3 feet.. that took a long time. I also added rope and tied off to the pump. Then I taped the rope every few feet like I did the wire bc I watched a video when u explained how the rope can make it hard for the pump to be removed. So I taped to prevent the bunching up effect. My buddy had water now. When I first started it the water was nasty red and brown. It's clean and clear now. Thank you for all your help and education. It is valued very much.
Getting ready to replace my well pump. It was installed 49 years ago! It has never been used continuously. It has a pitless connection coupled to galvanized pipe. 😳 Your videos have given me the confidence and information that I know will greatly help with this project!!! And I also subscribed! I know the videos help a large number of people curious about doing their own work. Keep up the great work!
Damn I can’t believe y’all pushed that seal down. I always used the rig or crane with pulleys. Nice job fella
those weird lines on the camera are because some part of the monitor was designed to used in a backup camera on a car/truck/etc. they are grid lines. There should be a switch on the video cable that dangles off the LCD. (It might be hidden by some electrical tape but you should be able to feel it. Just flip the switch, power cycle the unit and you should be grid free.
2:34 Those weird lines come from the maker using a chipset and driver that's meant for back-up cams. That's a parking aid. My friend had it show up on an... *eastern* security camera after it was suddenly disconnected from power and rebooted lol
Man y’all know how to work! All by hand. I have been a pump installer for just short of 17 years and in my area it is all with equipment. I average 600 ft deep and deepest I have found is 2,000 ft. You run acid, chlorine and brushes just like we would except for the sand line we have for brushing. Keep it up it is a though industry but someone has to do it.
GREAT WORK! Glad you are feeling better.
Well that was really interesting on how you put a liner in
Mixing citric acid and chlorine reduces the effectiveness of either. You either want to clean with the caustic or you want to clean with it acidic but combining both you end up with version of both kind of canceling each other out.
For the want to be chemists, there is no danger to adding chlorine to citric acid. You've made Kool-Aid before with city water, same thing. Besides you neutralize an acid with a base and you neutralize a base with an acid.
Depends on the concentrations. City water is safe because of dwell time, you aren't drinking it straight after the dosing
i thank people in your aria ar lucky to have someone like you to help with the water. you are a one . thanks for your time.
I've got iron in my well water. But I've also got a bacteria that converts it to a sedimentary form that I can filter out. Basic 10 micron filter lasts about a month.
Iron is good for you
my thought during the job was camera down to where the brush stopped to see why! I agree there should be a lid. and all that chlorine is bad for those trees. But you are my hero, you make me think I could at least assess my well issue better than my local guy, who charges $750 to video inspect, after the pump is removed, which is extra. (NorCal) Thanks for the interesting videos
You could use a jetter just like a plumber would use to clean a drain line
You were saying how the water looked like tomato soup.
We had to have a wire spliced on the deep well before we could resume using it [did not fix any other problem, just the wire, so its still jam packed full of iron] and when they turned it on, it came out somewhere between the color of chocolate milk, and black coffee, it clogged up three 1 micron filters the first day after the splice, then one the 3rd day, then one the following week, and still, 9 months later, it clogs up a 1 micron filter every month, so this problem is never going away without some serious work.
Again, I only hope I can make money from it doing foundry work.
I got over 4 pounds of solid iron from the well so far, all sucked through the draw screen, and more than 90% of it is magnetic.
If I were to mix it into coffee grounds, visibly, it would not be discernible.
I'm estimating there is a good 20 tons of iron in the hole, so I have devised a method I hope will muck out the hole which involves both an auger and a magnet inside of an encased tube, but it will be thoroughly tested in some 275 gallon water tanks before I try to use it in my well and get it stuck down there and ruin the well completely.
That is good reason to bring well pipe above ground level!!!
Glad to sea you back on your feet feeling better.
It’s what makes lemons sour!
I love the measuring spoon for the acid
Another fine job!
The best of the best!
Thanks for sharing. 👍's up
Many thanks!
putting pipe down there reminds me of Uncle Ivans farm in PA the donkeys were used to grind grains and walked in endless circles Gosh the 2 of you work hard for that money Since you are near me I wrote yur info down so for future reference .The plumber that put my wel pump did notice lots of loose tape stuck to the pump where it pulls water in at I guess . It was all around the middle of the pump and the wires and the wires to the pump down the black pipe had pieces of tape broke and off them 4 thumbs up
My water looks the same as the customers did to start with. I would be very happy with how the water turned out.
I had to dump 42 gallons of muriatic acid down a well over the course of three days while spinning 1/2” schd. 40 black pipe with the first 6” nipple having an 1&1/2” wood auger bit welded onto it and a bunch of holes drilled in it. Then a full 21’ section of pipe with more added as needed All this is done to eat it’s way through the well that got clogged up with chlorine pellets from a pellet feeder and a well pipe with torque snubbers that had feet of this stuff all built up and bridge together. When you mix chlorine and acid you get a green chlorine gas cloud fuming up out of the well and killing all of the bushes in front of the house. I was sent to this job after my boss had sent the well man to pull the pump and it was froze tim there solid like poured in concrete. After the three days and we’ll man finally pulling the pump the acid had practically almost destroyed the pitless adapter so I was sent bang to dig down an nice big roomy hole that you can work in to about a foot below the adapter. Then we’ll man reinstalled everything correctly and I regraded everything. The pellet feeder was removed and a liquid chemical feed system added inside the home in the well area. All of this is due to all housers in this area have a tremendous methane gas problem. You can actually light their water on fire before it goes through the system my boss designed the make good water for them. I was sent to this job because of money. I was an apprentice at the time but mainly because I could always come up with these crazy ideas to get this stuff done. I hat a dollar an hour raise from this job and two more within a month because of the journeyman I was working with telling my boss you better pay this guy more do he didn’t loose me. I stayed until another apprentice got in trouble at another shop so they swapped shops with the two of us. I had fun there and learned a lot. I’m now a retired. I carried a Pipefitters card a state plumbing license and a back flow license I retired out of the Belvidere Assembly automobile plant where out UAW CARD for skilled trade was for Pipefitters, Plumbers,Steamfitters, and Sprinkler fitters card. So I’ve led a good life
This and seen a lot of shit that I can’t believe the way it’s done and never tried to do it the way always trying to do correctly but sometimes had to do the old Rube Goldberg trick myself. This is why I watch things like this I like to see what they run into and the special tools they make to help out. I’ve made a bunch myself. 🐢11-14-2023
The 2 guys running around the hole part is so cool lol.
Cleaned many well using the rig to twist the pipe around brush on some N W rods , it works good to recirculate your water
What's a new rod? New water?
So I’m British and I have to double take every time he says ‘cement’ it literally sounds like he says Seaman.. “we have to fill that hole with seaman” WHAAAT 😂😂
here in ny i agree with you . i guess in the south they pronounce stuff oddly.
when you remove the metal shield as the wire cover every time the pump activates it will rub the wires eventually cutting through them as I’ve had happen twice now from the previous owner removing the cover… just to help ya out
Great narration/explanation. Thanks for the content.
Bath water only! Later rinse with the good stuff!
My old 5 T pump rig would really help to develop that well.
My well [it wad drilled before I inherited the land] went through a vein of iron, so a lot of hematite and magnetite come up through the pump screen, which is eroding the impellers.
I was given a different pump, I am hoping the impellers on it are good and that I can just swap them out, but first I have to much the hole down just about 85 feet [out of a 475 foot deep well].
I just spent the last hour roughing in a sketch which I plan to make into a CAD file so I can build it at my shop as a tool to muck the well out with, provided I don't run into some other problem, such a seismic shifting r cave-ins, since we are pretty high up and this area is just riddled with caverns, some a big a an airplane hangar.
If anything, since I have 2 other wells on the land [shallower, and maybe not in the middle of the same vein] I am hoping to get one of them operational [one is tied to the house, another to the shop, but since the deep well had been drilled within 50 feet of the shop [and about maybe 4 feet from the nearest well] I aim to trench over and tie them together with some splitters, in an underground, full access service.
If I am successful, I will have 2 separate wells to redundantly keep water going while I pull the deep well.
And if I do find a major deposit of minerals, I might just take the main well off line permanently there, and sink a shaft.
It is way too soon to say at this moment though.
Could have used this to show us running amps at open discharge to see if motor/pump was running at correct levels.
I'll bet it's stopping your brush right where the pump sits. That's where it builds up the most. On a metal liner at least that's always the case.
Did you lube the packer before installing,if so what did you use? Thanks for your time making the videos.
So have you given any thought to using a vegetable shortening on the bottom of your liner (seal), or poring a small quantity of Wesson oil from the top to aid in setting the liner? I used to repair Fire Truck Pumps and used a lot of Crisco on the O-rings and seals in place of petroleum type lubes which damage rubber and plastic. Love your channel.
hmm Info they also have what is called horizontal under ground boring and it uses similar type of Equipment of Well drillers and I think those rigs could put in a vertical well if one wanted to with them
I have 2700 feet of water lines on the farm. Would it be advisable to periodically shock the well and run it out the farther hydrants from the well? I use a lot of water for a pair of water source ac units but some of the pasture hydrants are only used at most a few hours a year.
Great work. Also enjoyed the video.
Good job.
Forgot to mention in previous text that I was blowing air down the pipe I was using to blow the drilled through pellets out of the way.
Presser wash the pump and pipe b4 installing pump?
Just curious. Why didn't you put the brush on the bottom of the tube? You could have attached the brush and then poured portland cement in the tube and it would have been compact.
I have been thinking the same ... The brush on the bottom of the tube*
looks like a back up camera with the car grid to keep you from hitting it lol...
Yea! One day they just Appeared on the screen! Was not like that the first few times I used it. I reckon it "Identifies" as a Backup camera 😆
@@h2omechanic It's a setting in the display. Try digging around in the menus.
Nice work guys
Wow. This was pretty cool
You are using a backup camera for a car. Your lines are there to let you know how close the next car is, its also why the cable is 17ft
Man watching this makes me want to fix my old system up and stop paying 100 bucks a month
You can also airlift a well like that.
Do you have any videos addressing pump recovery rate or overheating pumps? With heavy use my well pump will occasionally stop producing water. If I turn the breaker off for 1 minute, it's fine after that. Trying to figure out if it's the pump or the well. Do you ever do work in Henry County? I love your videos!
Sounds like the pump is over heating
I put my modulr house up in 2004 and well driller put a 3/4 hp pump and a 20 lb pressure tank and it burned out less than 2 years later and was replaced by a 1 hp pump better but pressure tank was not big enough and I guess by what plumber said (??? so not sure ) it was making the pump work to hard so pressure tank and pressure switch were replaced 40 gallon proflow all; bought at same time from fergusons plumbing supply . I am just learning that some plumbers are not the best . But these videos are great . GEEZE this is a really learning curve for me , But H20 is really helping to explain it better . I grew up with a jet pump well but that was a long time ago , I am 69 years old now and have had city water in NJ since i got married at 19 and it will soon be 50 years now
What prevents these above ground connections from freezing and cracking during winter?
Hello and thank you for your videos.
I have a similar problem, but I went to your store and don’t see the packer, do you sell them? If not where can I buy it?
Thanks again
He should put in a spin down filter it will save him on filters
Have you considered hydro blasting the well bore in place of the brush.
I never knew or have seen well pump hanging on poly pipe. Min is scheduled 80 white PVC well pipe. How often do they recommend torque snubbers on ploy hung pumps and the wiring runs through the torque snubber correct?
Interesting been watching son of your videos great content but I've never seen so many wells that are above ground you must not have winter there where I live everything has a frost head that buried at least 6 ft in the ground
Here in the South we don't worry about that too much. We have probably 21 days of below freezing scattered over our whole winter, at least where I live in west central Georgia.
And we can easily mitigate it with something as simple as a heat wrap or an incandescent light in the well enclosure.
Is this something that a homeowner can do
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Excellent. Need availability of Liner you showed in video for 5 inches pvc pipe
Pretty shallow we’ll. I live in the northeast and my well is over 700 feet deep.
what size motor? 3hp? im sure thats expensive to replace
@@ThunderBirds255 had to replace it once about 25 years ago. I think it was between 2 and 3 thousand dollars. I have pvc in 20 foot sections that screw together so it’s it’s labor intensive.
Question, what about them liners that they put in sewer pipe, they blow it in and it sets up hard , I know u could not concrete after but seem it would work on something like that we’re traditional liner couldn’t work
It's funny to see this video from Germany, nobody is using water wells here.
What kind of wrenches you using?
Might Fine!!
We put chlorine in our old well and we are still trying to flush the smell out( it’s taking forever) would it be safe to use in our RV anyways just for showers and washing dishes or do we need to flush until absolutely no smell? It’s not a strong smell just very light.
It's fine to use & bath, just don't consume it until the smell is gone.
@@h2omechanic funny I lived in hong kong and the company lieson told us to fill sink water add 1 cap of bleech soak vegetables..NO KIDDING.. they used human sheet water on farms.. yes they did i saw them do it.. open half pipe sewer and stream right next door..(see turds float by on way to dinner)one of islands homes looked western style. man used 2 big steel oil containers on an yoke filled in stream for farming.. yes the smell, but after a few years what smell!!!
What brand of well cameras you use ?
How much did this job roughly cost pretty handy new water tank and fittings and hose and labor
How much would a job like that normally cost
I don't think well companies in my area would ever put the effort in that you do. They would have just sunk another well. Contractors here - easiest and most $$ for them is the answer to everything.
it's a backup camera.
I know right! I said the same thing 😆. The lines randomly appear.
@@h2omechanic It must think it's in reverse. I have a camera that does the same thing. There is a connection someplace that you're supposed to connect to the backup light.
Can you tell me were you are form I need help with my well
Interesting... 🙂
maybe fashion a well-brush with a flexible weight (chain?) for those banana wells
...and with a brush you can change in the field between 6 and 4"
its metal casing.. its always going to rust
Hi. Can you make a video about water hammer when the pump stops? Thank you
Where do you get those packers from?
Where did you source the well casing packer? Trying to clear up an old 1969 cast iron well 120’
Why not just put a pitless below grade on your extension piece to bring it above grade? Install a 2" Grundfros submersible.
Whats a Grundfros sub
mersible and a pitless ?
Google each of them and you'll see.@@elenapalmieri9136
I have a question though.... the part of the video doesn't match with the location of the repaired pump and pipe. Earlier it was all new white colour pipe, after pumping for an hour and half, the outlet pipe looks brown and that hand-press handle...where does that come from !!?? IT IS CLEAR TO ME, is it the same pipe at the same property !!?? I DON'T KNOW, MAY BE MY EYES PLAYING TRICKS !!!!!!!!!! Any comments !!??
How much acid
Can a 3 inch liner be placed in 4 inch steel casing and then a submersible 3 inch pump be paced in 3 inch liner?
So long long term or after the chlorine
How much did that job cost the homeowner, you should start putting the price of the job in the description.
I don't disclose prices bc I've learned I'm cheaper than the national average, I don't want to be the person who sets a base price for arguments sack. But typically a liner like this can range from 2400-4000 depending upon depth & number of trips to the customer's property and the distance. So many factors & too much to touch on in a video. My videos are to help others find their own fix & ask the right questions to their local service provider/s
food great citric acid, go ahead and give that a snort, lol
It tastes like sweet tarts lol. Not super strong
What is the name of this chemical and what quantity is required for 120ft well
Order you Super Pool Shock (Calcium hypo) (don't buy the Sodium Hypochloride) pay attention to the ingredients. It's for chlorine pools, not for salt water pools.
If you have bad iron, use 1/3 of the bag on each treatment, then flush the well for 1 hr the next day. Do not consume the water until all the chlorine smell has gone away, but its fine to bath in.
Nc here close to hickory. How old do you think that well is? I have a buried well steel casing that was drilled to the best of my knowledge in 1966 according to my uncle. No tags no records. Water is crystal clear I only use it for irrigation. Well use to feed 100,000 chickens and 4 residential homes. According to him when it was drilled it produced 75gpm.
Static water level is 48 feet well is 215ft pump sitting at 193ft. I pump it 7 hours straight at 15 to 25gpm and water level drops to 118 to 119 feet just wondering what a liner would cost just in case something ever happened to mine probably will never get another well as good as it! It does have some sediment in it after 7 hours straight maybe a teaspoon full to tablespoon that gets trapped in my filter.
Thanks!
Supposed to be a 1952 cable machine well. (That's what I was told)
Liners range from $2200-3500 depending on the depth it's installed.
@@h2omechanic thank you that’s actually way better imo than it would be to drill a new one and take a chance of not hitting enough imo. Not sure what the price per foot is to drill a new one now.
@Primetime Fescue $18 per ft. Supply costs & fuel has made everything double or triple
@@h2omechanic sorry I replied on my other account lol. That’s actually not as bad as I was thinking! If something ever happens I will message you if you service this area. Also I have steel drop pipe but it’s new replaced it and the pump with a goulds constant pressure system. My well guy passed away last spring only person around here that I knew of that was able to pull steel drop pipe.
Do they make packers for 4 inch steel casing old wells(4 and 5/8 in. OD)????Liners for the same????
Not from my knowledge
Why isn't the well seal in the casing
How would you do all of this with a 4" pvc well? Tks
The same things apply.
Oh lining a 4" well isn't possible. Best to drill a new one or try chemical cleaning
Could you put a bigger pump on in order to flush it out? Could you have cut it lower and put a lid on.
"There is a layer of protective film"
Awesome
Hey- I just replaced my well pump. My well has a bunch of iron. The casing has all junk on the sides. Now for 2 days my water is rusty. How can I get rid of that? Is there anything I can do about this or should I just leave it and keep pumping off the well until the water get back to normal?
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You need to do this!
Take notes as you watch this video, it'll help with the iron issue. You can get the Chlorination pool shock it on Amazon be sure to get the correct kind. Or you can crush up chlorine tablets into very tiny pieces.
I’ve seen this process done in Pakistan 🇵🇰 and they’re doing it on the cheap, where you’re having special staged piping, they have a guy heat up the end on the mating pipe and swage it wider. Very red neck
What's the name of the tool you used to push the pvc down the well?
I believe you said somewhere that you lived in jVirginia, I was wondering where, as I may need your services.
No torque arrestor at all?
I need to hire this guy but I have no idea what area he is in
I was told I have a shallow well about this property family it was my grandmother's
Does grading around the well help to keep ground water out more effectively on situations where the casing has failed and you can't sleeve it all the way down?
It can help a little but if the casing is leaking then water that sweeps through the dirt can make it in there weather you grade or not because some of the water will penatrate through the dirt
Who makes the well packers you use ?
2:55 are you backing down the well?