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What You Dont See! Discolored Well Water & Why it's Happening to Your Well.
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Had a plumber guy that Lowe's sent to my house wanted to charge me $2500 to swap out my well pump but i had to get the pump and everything else as well as prep the area including pull the pump. Im a disabled older woman. All he told me about what to purchase was "get a 1 hp 2 wire submersible pump, if you get a 3 wire get the box too". I had a 3 wire originally and knew nothing else of the well, it's the first time i had any problem with it, other than replacing the pressure switch a few years back, since i bought the place. I went straight to UA-cam and found your channel to give me an idea of what i needed to get and thought if i gotta do all that i might as well do it myself. Needless to say that guy will never get my business, my son works for a grading co and borrowed the crane and between he, his wife and myself we got the job done. Went with the same thing i had .
That’s crazy expensive! I replaced one for a friend last year and his son helped me and pulling it out and going and getting the replacement took about five hours by the time we turned the new one on and I know I was cheap but I charged him 350 labor
I don’t know why I watch these videos as I don’t even have a well… but damn I enjoy them!!
Me too😅
I considered expanding my spring water tank from 500g to 2500g.
The contractor gave me a rough price of $4k. He said it would take longer than a 12-hour day, so it would be two days. He broke down the costs: labor, machine costs, and materials. I did not do it as it was not worth it to me.
This was one of the first jobs he quoted me. Since I understood his costs, I have had him out several times for 1 and 2 day jobs. It was because of his openness and the way he finishes jobs that he comes out twice a year for a day project. (He slips me between his bigger jobs, so I get a better rate, but I only get a 2 or 3 day notice.)
Always GREAT to watch someone who knows exactly what he is doing AND that he enjoys his work!! That’s worth its weight in gold!!
Yep, We Texans love a good well. We love talking about them, looking at them, drilling them, etc.
And yes a lot of stuff from Vevor is really good. Vevor is really just a big marketing distribution company in China, its kind of like a Walmart + Granger/Uline that started with tools and commercial equipment in 2008. They go to factories that just make products and simply provide marketing, warehousing, shipping, packaging, etc to sell that product inside China and internationally. But at the same time they assess the need of products and what does well and they circle back to those factories to help them adjust the product to fit the market. Of course now they've expanded from just tools/commercial stuff to all sorts of goods.
Love your videos , I always think I’m going to watch for a minute and go to something else, but I always stay to the end .so educational.
enjoyed the video, Make sure you do one of the installing the liner, that will be interesting to watch. Also as a business owner it's nice to see someone that really knows their business and can explain it to the customer without throwing the other guy under the bus. That would have been very easy for you to do. I like that you made it clear what he needed to resolve his problem but at the same time made it clear he got what he paid for. So many people try to make someone else look bad thinking it's making them look better. Nice JOB!!!
I enjoy listening to your southern speak.
I don't have a well, but I have learned alot about them from you.
Great work man!!! Love the way you layout the truth to the customer so that they’ll be informed as to the process…very honest work
I've always installed a pitless adapter on the well casing below the frost line or at a depht regulated by lical plumbing codes.
Yes!
Apparently they are in a southern zone where you do not need to go to that length . Here in
NH and ME we us pitless adapters and they are usually about 6 feet deep .
I work in environmental consulting and I just cringed a little when the bolts on the sanitary seal cap came out. I’m glad you were able to recover it. I do a lot of groundwater remediation systems with downhole Grundfos pumps.
Makes me wonder what the bentonite seal looks like above the screen.
In areas where I live in SC, lots of wells aren't but about 25feet, very high water table, some areas on my property most times of the year, water only about two feet below surface. In other words,lots of people around here are drinking surface water.
Thanks for making these vids. Learned so much. Just had well drilled. 50 gpm, basalt, solar pump going in.
I also watch you videos all the way from South Africa
Crazy how people do things differently in different places. Here in Maine we always use 1" black polyethylene and pitiless adapter at least 6 feet deep.
Only time I see a cap like that is an old well someone has in the basement
But you are in Maine where you have what some people call a “frost line”. Where I live, most people have never heard of a frost line and our wells are always capped above ground like this video.
I'm still surprised there isn't a pitless adapter if there is a chance of freezing. You aren't adding that much to the cost of the well, but you never have to think about the outside portion of the well.
The 3/4" pipe mentioned in the video would have an internal diamter of what... 1/2"? Not going to get much through that!
Instead of a weld blob restricting travel along the thread of that bolt thread, use a nylok nut at the end.
Damn, but I love that you explain things so well! Wish more guys were like you & knowledgeable!
Hard to believe there’s places that are seeing wells THAT deep and he’s still getting rain water intrusion! 😮 Geez!
Will the well further need a shock treatment at the end to purify it, since so much intrusion & cloudiness has happened?
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I'm watching videos on deep well pumps because in a few hours I'll be attending to fix one for a friend. Never worked on water pumps so I'm getting a new education at 65 years old. So thanks for sharing... Carey in North Carolina...
Have a few people there to help you!.
Remember that if you lift it up & see that it's on pvc, do not pull it out like I do the black pipe or it will break. Pvc must be pulled straight up in 20ft sections bc its too ridged.
3/4 is likely used as a false money saving function. In my area in older houses it would not be uncommon to find 1/2 inch to the house in older houses built pre-code. Many people did their own construction. The mind set was--if water comes out of the faucet in the house---all is good and we ain't spending no more money!!
I find plenty of those cost saving measures around our poorly built house. Just got done removing a kitchen sink slip ptrap from the shower. I presume it was an extra that they had lying around.
Dude you have been such a big help to me as a service plumber! Is there any way that you could do a video on testing the condition electrical insulation of the submersible wire and motor windings down the well casing, after you disconnect the wires running underground from the house, with a multimeter or megger? It would be nice to be able to tell my customers that either A: you’ve got a problem with the submersible wire, or B: you’ve got a problem with the pump motor itself. Is there a number, say in ohms, that I should be looking for… like if it’s below 1.5 ohms your pump or cable has (or is going bad). Teach us you ways professor!
Simply use a clamp style amp meter. If you have 240v at the well head & 0 amps, it's a broken wire. If you get amps above 9.5-16 then it's a bad pump.
If you get 7 amps & 240v & no water, then its broken pipe down the hole. If you get 3.5amps, (low) then the pump splines are stripped out.
I never do it any other way.
I’m about an hour and a half north of you. I live in a Town that starts with an “L” and ends with “burg” can I start referring you to some of my customers?
@@robtheisen5844 that's a little too far for me.
You are the man!
We put a crimp on the bottom of the bolt thread so they can not be unscrewed out of the bottom plate. very quick and painless with a crimp tool. We also use 316 stainless steel bolts and aluminium seal plates.
we up north in ny use all metal casing 6 in welded lengths
That's what my driller put in (PA)
I never heard of plastic well casing up here in Maine all use steel casing
Wow , you use pvc risers in your wells , no way here in NH ! We sink 8” steel pipe here from bedrock all the way to the surface .
The way you say cement, makes it sound like seamen...had me chuckle there.
High quality video, as always. This is great info to have.
Love your video's and showing what you do. I've never met anyone locally who does groundwater wells and similar.
Thanks for the video. Do you have a video explaining how you determine the amount of water that a well produces?
My husband and I are having an issue with our well and we both agreed that we would love to have you inspect and work on our well but unfortunately we live in Ohio. Excellent content🫡🤌🏾
Hello Sir. Live in California. Like your show. So me know what you do Plus hoke lot more! Started at 15 on oil rigs. Spent 22.5 yearsdoing everything you could do to a hole in the ground. From 0’ to 26,000’ and bank to 0’ . I started with abandoned wells drilled, cable pounded in 1910”s We cut down /pulled over the last ten standing wood derrick’ in Kern Co. got my first Rig as a driller/operator in in 1978. Double Ideco drive in 220ft derrick 225,000 pull. 40,000 pound draw works 1’ line 6line blocks three man crew that just the start less than three years at 18 a position like that in 1970’s oh 64 now retired!
Hi I watch your videos from orange nsw Australia
Wet air from the well will enter the metal splice box and corrode the connections. The problem should be on the driller, They can set up the drill rig and remove the casing and re bore the concrete seal out.
Texas, its like a whole other country! 🤠👍
I'm glad I watched Your videos, I would have taken the bolts out too!
We need you in Scotland co.
I don't understand why the well cap mfg don't deform the bolts so they don't come out!
You want a way to remove the bolts. It looks like it's holding the rubber seal in place. You want that to be replaceable, unless you replace the entire cap.
They can use the ss deflon/ nylon seal nut .
@@arthurr8670 I'd take that inplace of having the parts drop in a well and jamming something up.
@@2wwwilly and they still can be removed and parts dropped in well by the uninformed person.
Hello..I have aquwstion..how do I check if my well pump is bad .
It's interesting to see well systems in other areas.
I have never seen yellow water. Just red iron algae and black manganese. Water camera do you use ?
Every time I have to run a camera we have to pull the whole set out.
Vevor sells this camera on there site. I have a Video on the camera on my channel. Well pump q&a playlist
Also that's PEX-B so the ID of the fittings are smaller than 3/4" so that's an additional restriction. If it was PEX-A the ID of the fittings would be the same as the pipe.
You reach New Zealand as well 😀 Cheers
I subscribed to your channel, so the ratio of watched to those who subscribed may have dropped .1%!
The only thing I don't like are the commercials I can't skip, especially the ones that are in a language I don't speak or understand.
H20 you have some great video's, I enjoy watching your channel. Do you have any videos on how to relocate a well tank. Right now my brothers tank is under his cabin, he has to go into a crawl space to get to it. Looking to move it into a basement that was added into his cabin. So it would be a lot easier access. I have an idea what to do but not sure what materials I would need. Thanks if you could help. Keep up with the great video's
Interesting. My well is pretty shallow but still good to know.
This would be a Great place to work as a Driller / welder/ pump Mechanic/ cdl driver etc etc etc.
Do you ever use pitless adapters for the plumbing connections on the wells there?
Only when asked by customer.
State law requires water sample port at well head. Install a pitless then requires me to install a yard hydrant. Just more expensive. If I drive 4 hours north, all wells become pitless.
@@h2omechanic , it's good to see you're feeling better. You mentioned "state law" which made me think about code & inspection. I wondered, you suggest that whoever ran the supply piping from the pump to the house undersized it & I would agree but I would've thought this would be regulated by code. So how can it pass an inspection with undersized piping or is this more about "minimum to meet code" versus "ideal"? Btw great to see Mandy and Ginger! ^_^
Another way to keep the bottom plate from is to run the bolt through and weld a blob on the threads at the end of the bolt
I just "Trash" the end threads with whatever's handy, hammer & chisel, BIG pliers, jamb nuts...
There's nothing wrong with the design. The problem is the homeowner who thinks he should unscrew all four bolts all the way. Even as a newbie, years ago, I never made that mistake.
HI. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS AND I'M READY FOR THE SECOND EPISODE OF THIS WELL
I have a 750' well pump at 600' with a 100' sleeve so I feel your pain!
I’m in Perth Western Australia. You definitely drill a bit different to us in Western Australia
I put rain X on the end of that camera lens. I had a huge improvement on mine when I hit it would rain. It keeps the water off the lens.
Reppin the AMA recycling sweatshirt lol. Cool to see local stuff with someone as popular as your channel!
It's actually my Diesel mechanics Hoodie lol. He left it at my shop a year ago. So I grabbed it lol
Up here by me in NYS, i use caps that are held on with set scews on the side.
4th, having pump and hydrant put into my new well on Monday.
I just got my well put in and the water is brownish color. Hadnt had time to actually let it run for wile yet due to working everyday late. Im let it run some this weekend to see if that clears it up
I love your videos, informative and easy to watch. However I have a small issue with you calling out the 3/4” supply pipe. The well plate says it’s a 2 gpm well. So why waste $ on a 1” or whatever to flow at 10-12 gpm when you’re not meant to flow more than 2? Perhaps they sized the pipe based on the rated flow and not on the ideal 10 gpm.
It creates unnecessary head pressure against the pump trying to force water thru that small pipe. 3/4" pex is cts which means it's actually smaller than typical 3/4" black roll & 3/4" pvc. Think of it as 1/2" pvc. Bc 1/2"pvc beside 3/4" pex look the same size. Pex is measured by cts (copper tubing size) . It works, but its really undersized. The pump here can provide probably 9-10gpm with proper plumbing
That PEX water feed looks totally unprofessional. Each PEX fitting further restricts the flow since the fittling is designed to go inside the pipe. Also, I'm pretty sure PEX is not supposed to be direct burried in the ground either.
@@davebrunson125 You're right about it being a dry hole. The stated well capacity is 2 gpm, most of that water looks like it's being produced from overburden leaking into the bottom of the well casing. If he seals off the bottom of that casing, the well will produce little if any water. That is probably the reason the drillers didn't cement up the casing, they suspected it was a dry hole.
you guys and your plastic well casing.
I just found your channel and enjoy how you explain what you're doing.
2 tips, if you smoke, please stop and the words "floor joists" is not "floor joistes". Maybe you hear ppl saying it in 2 syllables, but the word joists is ONE syllable. Please don't say joist-es.
Keep making your quality videos. Thanks
Get a life
Yankees shouldn't be allowed to comment on Southern folks videos.
watching here from 🇵🇭
I wonder if they ran the 3/4" line to the house as a flow restrictor, seeing as the Well only made 2 GPM. If the demand is great enough, it could easily run the well dry.
Regarding the 3/4” diameter pex tubing from well to house. Can you send a steel cable through the line, connect it to a tubing cutter, split the existing tubing and follow it with 1” diameter pe tubing? This method is commonly used to update lead service connections to water mains.
7:47 wow your voice sounds soooooo cool. I need to record some vocals and whatnot with that effect!
I read your comment at the 6:24 mark
caught me off guard 😂
And also the effect from his voice did sound cool!!
Like reverb in a small room
He was talking thru the well pipe, so I guess it would be:
*the depth of the well + the inner diameter of the pipe*
That would = the dimensions for the “room” of his reverberated voice
@@ohokayofficial You are the coolest person ever. Have you heard of the Cooper Time Cube? I think it was a reverb made by UREI from the 70s. It was a box with a 50 foot roll of garden hose that had a speaker on one side and a mic on the other. Kind of reminds me of the way this effect from this video is created. This though right here in this particular video is soooooo much more unique. Thanks for reminding me about it!
If I ever can afford the best home audio studio ever, you better believe it will have a well drilled someplace near by. :)
Great video not sure why I am watching well videos but here I am
Watching holding a 2 yr old and tv in background but your audio could really use a mic
I know video and sound is secondary to the professionalism of talking to your client not the camera did make it tough to keep up with what your were saying
Great videos just small suggestion
Up in NH I've only seen metal casing all the way to ground level. Is PVC used just for cost savings?
I had my well hydrofracked 2 months ago I still have cloudy water 😢 any thoughts? Suggestions would greatly be appreciated.
I was running the well dry for the first month everyday. Put back in the filters a week ago, lots of sediment dark brown very dirty mud like filter.
Vevor always pleasantly surprises me
Vevor has some good products - but they have their fair share of junk also. That well camera appears to be working out, and I have a Vevor chamber vacuum sealer that works great. But they also sell a stand-alone vacuum pump that doesn't work (see the HVAC Guy channel about that) and they sell a man cage that goes over pallet forks that is a lightweight piece of garbage (Good Works Tractors reviewed that gem).
With Vevor products, I take the approach of looking for review videos on UA-cam from folks that have had/used the product for a period of time before I decide to buy it.
Take care and God Bless.
I love your channel. I am in NJ and this is my first house with a well. The well is actually in my basement! I am confused, you said his pump pits down about 400 feet but his casing only goes ~ 70 feet. what is between end of casing and the pump? And how come casing isn't required all the way down to the pump? Thx for all your great content!!
the crack is at 70 ft any crack above the 400 may leak in ground water
They set casing down to bedrock , below that it's a rock casing.
⚠️ CORRECTION - “People’s Republic of New Jersey” and NOT “NJ”.
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(I grew up in Essex Fells and moved to Morris County years back)
One quick recommendation… I’m an electrical contractor and have a bunch of customers with wells.
Most of them were installed by the same well co. working for a developer.
They were all given Berkey Black gravity water filter units (I believe they are the “Royal Berkey” models).
There were apparently no contaminants detected but they all state that the drinking water tastes much better using the filter vs. without.
After seeing this and speaking with most of the residents, I bought one for my own home.
We have municipal water and it’s supposedly “tested & OK”, but it really smells horribly like chlorine.
The water is actually drinkable when using the Berkey filter. I think we got the larger model??
I never could drink the tap water here and used to buy spring water for drinking and cooking.
Now, I drink the water and love it!
Good luck. 👍🏼😀
I have a job for you, over here in Australia, all the best mate
Nice to have man’s best friends with ya isn’t it.
Keep up the good work man!
They should use dome top lag bolts that cant be undone from the top.
I really enjoy your videos, you explain everything so well.
Have you tried to Rainx your well camera lens?
Might help with viewing.
I need a well installed on my new ranch. Does anyone have any recommendations for a driller near Henryetta, OK ?
My JD 3320 had them, current Kioti CK4010 has them!
I would hire you in Colorado
Thanks for the video.
Queensland Australia
Watching from the island of Cyprus in the Eastern Mediterranean sea.
Why don’t you guys use a pit less adapter? You have a facet on top of a line coming out the well head. Do you not have a freezing problem?
Hey I got a situation here in North Carolina I got a deep well pump that sits down in the aquifer it's sleeved for 70 ft it opens up into the aquifer I have a broken sleeve and I'm trying to pull my well pump out I've lost two well pumps in the third one is stuck now are the two that I lost that fell are they gone because of it being an aquifer and second question how do I fix the broken sleeve please SOS.
So why did they stop using all steel casings I never would of thought pvc would handle the abuses
I have a house that has a well. On the cap it says the flow is 2.5 gallons a minute.
15 miles away, I lived at a rental that had to have the well re drilled. When they tested the well, the pump could only pump at 50 gallons a minute. The well flow was more than 50 gallons a minute.
Funny hearing you say, cement
Amazing brother, respect. Free the tates.
I just want to know, if you're well can freeze, why isn't a pitless adapter used in that area? We have water all year, don't worry about the well casing, or underground piping, even when the temperature goes negative. I understand you don't get that cold, but i feel like someone would pay extra not to have to deal with making sure the well doesn't freeze.
⚠️ As an electrical contractor for over 30 years, I shuddered when I saw that “1900” (4” square) electrical junction box being used OUTDOORS! I know virtually nothing about wells and water pumps used in a residential environment as my work area is a suburban metro area with municipal water supply.
Great channel and video.
Thank you.
Not sure about where they are at, but in my area, Wells are required to have an electrical disconnect at the location of the well itself. Normally just the well pump control box works, as you lift the lid and it separates the connection, but I had a 2 wire pump 110v and my uncle who is a licensed electrician used a simple light switch to make the disconnect until I could upgrade to a 3 wire pump and use the well pump control box with the capacitor.
But we also have a shed the well, pressure tank and electrical are all in.
I would recommend this guy build a small shack to protect the well, instead of using that igloo as a cover.
@@cybernoid001 yes.. an enclosure would be very advantageous.
The 1900 style junction box is only approved and safe to use in indoor and where no moisture exists.
They are constructed of steel and have multiple holes for mounting screws and grounding screw(s).
They also have a ton of knockouts that offer ample room for water to pour right in.
I’d use uni-strut to build out a “frame” to mount all of the electrical and control gear.
I’d also add a service receptacle (GFCI protected of course) which is a NEC requirement for service personnel AND a fused disconnect for the pump motor itself.
Like you mentioned…
The use of an overall protective enclosure makes tremendous sense and would keep the weather out, keep animals away, keep the damn evil neighbor kids out 🤡, etc.
I had someone call me and a would plumber dropped both half moon pieces on top of the pump. I used a ten foot piece of angled iron and a rope to knock it loose it took a couple hours to get it out of the well. Kept locking up in well. They had been without water for over a month
Yup, it's actually the most common problem, that's why I only use 1 percent well seals. Glad you got it free
@@h2omechanicone percent seals?
@@earlestes8649 I think he meant to write 1 piece and the auto-correct did it wrong
Well drillers up here in Canada use steel pipe casing all the way. No plastic.
Not true here in Alberta many newer wells use plastic as it will not rust out.
@@roballan4944 it takes a long time for schedule 40 to rust out. I've pulled pumps out of wells 40 years old still in good shape that are steel casing. I'm in Ontario
@@roballan4944 I'm in B.C. and never, ever seen plastic. It's steel well casing only. It doesn't rust out; one of mine is over sixty years old and looks like new. I'm not saying plastic is a bad idea, but I would rather spend the money on steel.
Example of a customer who doesn’t know W. T. F they’re doing and is shocked to hear a tech pointing out important things he’s doing wrong.
In the north we use 1-piece well head caps and all hardware is on the Outside diameter of the well head. No chance of any bolts falling down the well. Can 1 piece caps be used in the southern states too?
Great video and problem solving, I've had a well installed in the UK , but 150ft down and I get 5 gallon a minute, they put a 6inch perforated pipe at the bottom 30ft then a normal 6inch pipe on top, my question is why don't you guys do that
Your probably in a coastal region, the slotted casing is used in specific areas. Just not needed here bc we find water in rock, not sand
@H2o Mechanic thanks for your reply, we are on Cornwall, and your right they went through Granite
Then why don't you use steel casing?
We had a well done at our cabin 7 years ago and I was surprised to see that he used steel casing. I asked why and he said in this area of PA there is a lot of rock and the plastic casing will not hold up.
Sounds like what im dealing with now, cept it started with a decent amount of sediment type stuff in the toilet tanks, which isnt really an issue anymore.
In a climate that freezes I can’t believe that you are not required to use pitiless adapters and bury the water line below the frost line
What's the process for sealing the bottom of a well casing during the installation of a new well? Is it somehow supposed to be glued to the stop of the rock bore hole to seal it from any such leakage as is shown in this video??
I noticed a lack of a union at the wellhead. I'm only familiar with wells in Florida. Ron W4BIN
What if he hooked up a ozone system in the well.would that clear it up.
Screen says, (There is a layer of protective film)
LOL. Ginger looks like she is ready for a nap on the way home.
Why are plastic casings used instead of steel, and why not pit less adapters? Cost I imagine. We're way up north, I have only ever seen steal casings used here. If a sanitary top seal is used, the top of the well is either buried 4 feet or in a heated well house.