Enjoyed your family's experience,hoping to one day join you as I desire to own my own ev. Your analysis on the relative pros and cons of ev ownership reflect my anticipated outcomes do thanks again
Thanks for the videos. I have a MG5LR and loving it and I totally agree with you running costs is not the reason I went ev but the sheer pleasure in driving them, of course saving money on fuel is a bonus.
Iain, I am awaiting my delivery of a new MG ZS EV. I have been looking at various reviews but your videos of your road trip have gone really far in convincing me that I have made the correct decision!! Well done!
I wish I could home charge, but due to lack of government legislation in the UK, building management companies don’t feel any pressure to install chargers for apartments that aren’t brand new.
@@eviain I definitely hope so. The rollout of chargers overall seems to have stepped up a bit, so not all bad news. Just need electricity prices to stabilise/come back down now!
Thanks for your video. So from what I gather, it costs 7-8 pence per kWh for home charging; and anywhere from 50p to 83p per kWh to charge at public EV chargers. One thing I'm worried about is, as a newcomer and visitor, how easy is it to be able to use (ie, to pay for) public EV chargers? There seems to be lots of membership cards or RFID cards needed. Can anyone just rock up and pay with a credit card? Also, I'm currently visiting England and just cannot find a good hire company to get an EV. Eventually, I thought I got an EV (Renault Zoe) at Enterprise but then they cancelled on me when I arrived to pick it up. Very poor service. To compare, it is so easy to book an EV in Australia. I had the pleasure to drive an MG ZS EV in Australia, and it was a fantastic experience.
You’re right there are a lot of different cards or apps. However most points work via an app so you can get a charge with some minor faff. The easiest are insta volt and osprey as they both take contactless card payments. Shame you can’t get EVs on hire more easy it would be a great service to offer.
Hi thanks, Indeed 250 would probably be a good yard stick, in summer. Winter probably 200, as it lacks a heat pump. it’s always better to miss trust the manufacturers claimed range. However it’s a lot closer than I imagined. The range is beyond what we need for daily use and for those rare cross country trips it’s further than our normal rest stops.
This trip its twice cheaper with EV car than with the diesel. We are waiting for the same car as this in the video. Home Charging is the back bone of the electric car let alone that some employers offered free charging at work.
Whilst there was a three pin plug in the accommodation did the holiday park specifically say you were allowed to charge. I understand to not want a trip hazard though, so I have bought a couple of 1m pavement cable covers as an Amazon delivery driver nearly tripped over mine on my front drive (an MGZSEV LRT).
I think it’s fair to say they haven’t even registered EV existence. No specifics either way. It would be a good opportunity for them to establish a charging hub on site or to have some lodges fitted with dedicated chargers.
Good analysis and real life data/experience. I don’t have an ev yet, but hope to next year (incidentally looking at the MG ZS R or Niro). I have used the analogy of motorway services, I very rarely fuel up my car at a motorway services as they are so expensive, so if I really need to I will just put in another to get me to my destination. The same with fast chargers! I intend to charge my ev with my own Solar and cheap (overnight) electricity the vast majority of the time and only use fast chargers on long journeys and add just enough to get me to destination (home or slow destination charger). Maybe I’m in cloud cuckoo land but I don’t think so. Also curious (power is exceptionally expensive just now - world events etc.) but just wondering as ev chargers become more numerous surely they will start to compete with each other for business and will need to be competitive otherwise we will just seek out the cheaper (or more reasonable) chargers!? However I don’t have an ev!
Stephen I think your spot on. These are not normal times inevitably competitive markets will emerge on charging. However I wonder if they will be able to compete that much on price, it may be better on quality, location (Amenities) and speed
The difference between home charging and public charging is shocking! £6 (give or take) for a full charge (circa 70 kwh) at home vs £35 for 47kwh at a public charger?!
It is, If you can charge at home most of the time it’s not a big part of owning an EV. High energy prices haven’t helped, as well as VAT being charged on pubic charging . You are also paying for the speed of delivery. Home charging takes much much longer. Charging at home overnight during the cheap rate may take a couple nights if the car is very low (although that’s unusual in my case).
Interesting feedback. On the assumption you have a 7kw charger at home, the MG ZS should in theory charge in about 10 hrs shouldn't it? So from empty to full in one night (between say 9pm and 7am)?
@@mattstambach5401 yes but the cheap rate electricity (on my current tariff (other tariffs available)) is between 00:30 and 04:30. So only 4hours. In reality it’s not an issue as we never run it to empty.
Was interesting to hear your story about ev charges till the end , little bit political there paying sheikh but if you didn’t have the option for the EV then whO would you have paid instead? If British people thought about that then there would be no oil in UK .
We just have alternatives now, so why continue to place out energy security on unstable or ethically different parts of the world. Before you even get in to the number of per year people who die in the uk from air pollution
I can assure you I’m not. But I did say.. mine cost £100. I think they made more than one model. You probably have a different one. Mine could also go to Cornwall with out stopping I never said it couldn’t. Either way the fumes would still cause people harm and fund unsavoury powers in foreign lands
As a petrol head I think we need to put things into perspective. Yes it will cost more to do a long journey in an EV. There is an inconvenient truth, however, as these journeys will only ever account for 5-10% of most people's journeys it's almost certainly always going to be cheaper to run an EV charging at home for the other 90-95%.
Enjoyed your family's experience,hoping to one day join you as I desire to own my own ev. Your analysis on the relative pros and cons of ev ownership reflect my anticipated outcomes do thanks again
Thanks for the videos.
I have a MG5LR and loving it and I totally agree with you running costs is not the reason I went ev but the sheer pleasure in driving them, of course saving money on fuel is a bonus.
Yes Keith the driving experience is something I’m so used to now I don’t even mention it that much anymore!
Iain, I am awaiting my delivery of a new MG ZS EV. I have been looking at various reviews but your videos of your road trip have gone really far in convincing me that I have made the correct decision!! Well done!
I wish I could home charge, but due to lack of government legislation in the UK, building management companies don’t feel any pressure to install chargers for apartments that aren’t brand new.
Definitely a problem, let’s hope this energy crisis pushes some thinking around this area
@@eviain I definitely hope so. The rollout of chargers overall seems to have stepped up a bit, so not all bad news. Just need electricity prices to stabilise/come back down now!
I 100% agree with your reasons for driving an Electric car .
Thanks David 😀
Thanks for your video. So from what I gather, it costs 7-8 pence per kWh for home charging; and anywhere from 50p to 83p per kWh to charge at public EV chargers. One thing I'm worried about is, as a newcomer and visitor, how easy is it to be able to use (ie, to pay for) public EV chargers? There seems to be lots of membership cards or RFID cards needed. Can anyone just rock up and pay with a credit card?
Also, I'm currently visiting England and just cannot find a good hire company to get an EV. Eventually, I thought I got an EV (Renault Zoe) at Enterprise but then they cancelled on me when I arrived to pick it up. Very poor service. To compare, it is so easy to book an EV in Australia. I had the pleasure to drive an MG ZS EV in Australia, and it was a fantastic experience.
You’re right there are a lot of different cards or apps. However most points work via an app so you can get a charge with some minor faff. The easiest are insta volt and osprey as they both take contactless card payments.
Shame you can’t get EVs on hire more easy it would be a great service to offer.
Great set of vids, was interested it didn't do 270ish on the way down would you say it can go 250 on a full charge average motorway drive?
Hi thanks, Indeed 250 would probably be a good yard stick, in summer. Winter probably 200, as it lacks a heat pump. it’s always better to miss trust the manufacturers claimed range. However it’s a lot closer than I imagined. The range is beyond what we need for daily use and for those rare cross country trips it’s further than our normal rest stops.
This trip its twice cheaper with EV car than with the diesel. We are waiting for the same car as this in the video. Home Charging is the back bone of the electric car let alone that some employers offered free charging at work.
100% hope it’s turned up now!
@EvIain Didn't, but we have changed the order to MG5 and collected the car 4 weeks ago.
Whilst there was a three pin plug in the accommodation did the holiday park specifically say you were allowed to charge. I understand to not want a trip hazard though, so I have bought a couple of 1m pavement cable covers as an Amazon delivery driver nearly tripped over mine on my front drive (an MGZSEV LRT).
I think it’s fair to say they haven’t even registered EV existence. No specifics either way. It would be a good opportunity for them to establish a charging hub on site or to have some lodges fitted with dedicated chargers.
Good analysis and real life data/experience. I don’t have an ev yet, but hope to next year (incidentally looking at the MG ZS R or Niro). I have used the analogy of motorway services, I very rarely fuel up my car at a motorway services as they are so expensive, so if I really need to I will just put in another to get me to my destination. The same with fast chargers! I intend to charge my ev with my own Solar and cheap (overnight) electricity the vast majority of the time and only use fast chargers on long journeys and add just enough to get me to destination (home or slow destination charger).
Maybe I’m in cloud cuckoo land but I don’t think so.
Also curious (power is exceptionally expensive just now - world events etc.) but just wondering as ev chargers become more numerous surely they will start to compete with each other for business and will need to be competitive otherwise we will just seek out the cheaper (or more reasonable) chargers!?
However I don’t have an ev!
Stephen I think your spot on. These are not normal times inevitably competitive markets will emerge on charging. However I wonder if they will be able to compete that much on price, it may be better on quality, location
(Amenities) and speed
The difference between home charging and public charging is shocking! £6 (give or take) for a full charge (circa 70 kwh) at home vs £35 for 47kwh at a public charger?!
It is, If you can charge at home most of the time it’s not a big part of owning an EV. High energy prices haven’t helped, as well as VAT being charged on pubic charging . You are also paying for the speed of delivery. Home charging takes much much longer. Charging at home overnight during the cheap rate may take a couple nights if the car is very low (although that’s unusual in my case).
Interesting feedback. On the assumption you have a 7kw charger at home, the MG ZS should in theory charge in about 10 hrs shouldn't it? So from empty to full in one night (between say 9pm and 7am)?
@@mattstambach5401 yes but the cheap rate electricity (on my current tariff (other tariffs available)) is between 00:30 and 04:30. So only 4hours. In reality it’s not an issue as we never run it to empty.
@@eviain Ah, fair enough. That makes sense. Thanks for the info and great video series. Keep up the good work 👍
Was interesting to hear your story about ev charges till the end , little bit political there paying sheikh but if you didn’t have the option for the EV then whO would you have paid instead? If British people thought about that then there would be no oil in UK .
We just have alternatives now, so why continue to place out energy security on unstable or ethically different parts of the world. Before you even get in to the number of per year people who die in the uk from air pollution
You're talking rubbish, my volvo d5 cost £88 to fill up 3 days ago, I could drive from Ipswich to Cornwall easily without stopping
I can assure you I’m not. But I did say.. mine cost £100. I think they made more than one model. You probably have a different one.
Mine could also go to Cornwall with out stopping I never said it couldn’t.
Either way the fumes would still cause people harm and fund unsavoury powers in foreign lands
Calm down Volvo dude! Are you thinking of buying an EV vehicle or are you just on here to make rude and obnoxiously arrogant comments?
As a petrol head I think we need to put things into perspective. Yes it will cost more to do a long journey in an EV. There is an inconvenient truth, however, as these journeys will only ever account for 5-10% of most people's journeys it's almost certainly always going to be cheaper to run an EV charging at home for the other 90-95%.
You put in kWh not kW
Annoying isn’t it
What a ball ache to keep stopping to charge
Let me know when you watch the video.