The Final Conclusion of the Dune Series
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- Frank Herbert wrote over 30 bestselling books during his lifetime, including the now classic six novels set in the Dune universe. The first book, Dune, won both the Nebula and Hugo awards and is still the worldΓÇÖs bestselling science fiction novel. When Frank Herbert died in 1986 he left behind the outlines for the continuation of the Dune saga, though they were hidden in two safe deposit boxes for over a decade. Following his death his son Brian Herbert compiled a massive Dune concordance and then, with writer Kevin J. Anderson, completed the saga with two trilogies and most recently Hunters of Dune. Herbert and Anderson will be here to discuss their collaboration on these books and their final grand climax to the Dune Chronicles, Sandworms of Dune, where key figures from the Dune saga continue to fight for the survival of the human species.
The best thing about the original series were Frank’s little writings at the start of each and every chapter. They were brilliant. Although Brian carried on this tradition the pieces were never as poingant or meaningful as Franks
after 10+ books is not gonna be fresh - they are cute at first as you start learning to lore but not needed later on
Next:
"Paychecks of Dune"
Hilarious! 😂
Underrated
Also dune messiah is brilliant and did what he meant to do... Again people disappointed in messiah aren't getting the message. I actually read messiah first and I was blown away.. Started a two decade love affair with dune
It’s my favorite 💗
I read Dune Messiah as a teenager and didn't like it...I was shocked at what Paul had become. Now, 30 years later I get it. Herbert very much intended for Paul to become an anti-hero. As I got older, I finally "got" what he was saying. It was all brilliant.
I have trouble thinking of theses books as canon. It seemed pretty clear that Daniel And Marty are independent and highly evolved face dancers in Chapterhouse, as opposed to thinking machines in these books.
Yeah, that whole thinking machines plot is weird to me, nothing pointed to that in previous books.
See I disagree, who better than the old enemy? A face dancer army wouldn’t have been as scary
Kris Macneil
No, the only "obviousness" in that statement was that the couple were clearly not "normal humans"
Kris Macneil
And that they were not to be trusted.
Sorry for the flippant remark, but i cant stand hearing that shit
@@hungarianbeast well~ it was supposed to be an unknown enemy if you could guess. You don't think the god bloody emperor would be able to guess?
I see where John C. Riley got his inspiration for Dr. Steve Bruhl! 🤣😂
watch old interviews of Frank Herbert... and then watch this... its not comparable.
Dune sadly ended with Frank Herbert's death.
After that, just potboilers.
@Erasmus the blasphemous They're utter fucking trash that miss the point completely, and you've assumed the handle of a character who might be the ultimate representative of that fact, so it's clear that you're just too fucking stupid for that to even register.
@@scufftop778
.... yeah. What you said !
@Erasmus the blasphemous
They are terrible potboilers. The very definition of the word.
@Erasmus the blasphemous
The expanded dune novels contradict the originals in many ways. They are fan-fiction. The butlerian Jihad was NEVER a war between humans and machines.
I listened to this very interesting video while sipping Rossak tea with a slight touch of fresh Melange.
Get a life nerd !
@@moejaime2654 hater
Want to see my crysknife?
cinnamon?
Is this a vhs from the mid 90s??
This looks like it was taped in 1992.....
lol
I can’t imagine being given life as Frank Herbert’s son, and spending it to gain a reputation as dollar store rip off of Frank. I would be too embarrassed to do what he does so proudly. If any other person on the planet did what he does, society literally wouldn’t let him publish it. It’s sad that if Brian has any respectable talent, very few will know because of what he decided his career would be. Sad.
'Eyyyy! Here in Seattle! I forget Brian still lives in this region.
As someone who lives in Tacoma it was a delightful to learn that Frank Herbert was born here in 1920!
'Sold so much , sold that' .So many millions of copies here ',,,,Pfff. Sad.
Brian Herbert is a 'bread writer lacking his fathers talent.
Frank Herbert created a multi layered universe with complicated characters, He wrote relatively few books in his life. Most of them classics. Brian & Anderson wrote at least (?) Dune book a year. But sadly he reduces the story tol 'simpel 'good versus evil '. the art of Franks Herbert's fine tuned Dune universe, reduces to fast written 'young adult' S.F ' series.
@S.M.C. Kennels : Thank you for pointing it out. My brain has dyslectic tendencies, I will correct it.
I enjoy them but they most certainly lack the depth and voice and layers of thematic and technical brilliance and unbelievable pace.. As in just the rhythm in which the words hit your brain... Goddamn it herbert was brilliant
I hate that they changed marty and daniel and the strong enemy of the honored matres, from facedancers into thinking machines 😔 it was really disappointing.
Oh no! So I shouldn't read Hunters of Dune & Sandworms of Dune? Just finished Chapterhouse.
@dustinneely no, I think you should. I look at them as an alternative ending ( sry for lack of a better word).
Like i said, I was disappointed by their choice of enemy and whatnot. But I don't regret reading them.
I've read all of the dune books twice. I don't take Brian and Kevins books as the real story, but I've still enjoyed reading them.
If someone is interested, the Matrix movies lift heavily from DUNE mythos.
Morpheus is stilgar.
Neo goes blind by eyes burning but still could see thru inner vision.
Tau orgy is also in reloaded.
Dune influenced a lot of pop culture scifi than given credit.
What is this Terrance McKenna melody of voice 🤔
2 scammers.🤣🤣🤣
Watching Brian open up genuinely about his father and hearing a weasle-y voice cut in and say, and you can buy the book to learn more ahaha, multiple times made me cringe a little.
Justice for the Fenrings!
Don't go to a mind reader. Go to a palmist. I know you got a palm.
Bring in more authors, but only if they are 100% PC, because we don't want to hear the truth.
You can tell these two are 70's babies
I have read all of Frank’s work and loved them . However, It’s shameful to see a son profit from his father’s work when he clearly doesn’t have the talent. I read the prequels and they were bloody boring and awful. Refused to read the others.
Every writer knows the end of his/her story, I know Frank knew his and definitely told Brian how it all ended. I know in my heart a son would definitely finish his father’s story exactly as his father wanted. As far as I’m concerned Hunters and Sandworms of Dune IS CANON!!!!!
I agree with you. He has more say about it then anyone else since he is the son.
You're foolish to say that when the evidence says otherwise.
@@VogtTD you honestly think he didn’t tell his family the end? Really dude?
@@Dude_on_a_Map yes.
1:50 starting off with a solid facepalm
Edit: 2:39 dayum, he ain’t disappointing
No shit! Immediately discredited him regarding my search about Marty and Daniel
You two are one of the best people on Earth. I've enjoyed reading your books.
Why all the hate?! I thought the novels were awesome! Very exciting!
Just cause the son of the original author isn't as educated or as experienced in other fields of study which inspired his father to make one of the greatest books to have ever been written does not mean that you can discount the prequels, the conclusion books of the Dune series or even the BJ-MC-BoC books as not canon. Saying what Brian has done, as son and legal heir to the franchise, is not part of the Dune universe as many many many idiots do and discounting his works is exactly the logical equivalent of dismissing anything Christopher Tolkien has done to add to his own father's legacy in the LOTR universe. The owners of the series are the ones who dictate what is or is not canon especially when they are the biological son of the original author and uses notes directly from their own father's archives. The new books do lack the sophistication and layers of nuance that the originals had because they are written by very different people with different backgrounds. Brian is basically just a writer is father was more than just that because he brought his knowledge of many different subjects and wove it into the narrative. His son is just continuing that legacy however lack-luster people may feel it is in comparison. But again discounting the new material as non-canon is not your choice to make no matter how important you think your opinion is. The legal owners of the franchise dictate what is and isn't a part of the narrative's universe or not --- that goes for Star Wars and their decision to not include any works in the extended universe because they own the rights to it. End of Story.
Quite the opposite. It's all my choice. I mean, how can someone impose the duo's novels canonicity on me if I haven't even read them? An author dies in the process of reading, all that matters is just a reader and their experience.
Non-canon.
Yep exactly I don't like Disney canon star wars but that is just simply Canon. They dictate that. I don't watch Disney canon I stick to the expanded Universe now redubbed legends but I would never tell a Disney fans there shows not canon because id be wrong
@@trashboat6670you can head canon however you want that is your right as a fan. But factually by a legal standpoint the books written by Brian are canon you can ignore them which is your right. But they are canon. Now you can simply ignore them and pretend they aren't. And simply enjoy franks works and that's also completely valid. But it would be factually Incorrect to argue with someone who likes Brians works and say it's non canon. Fanfiction......... Because it isn't
Lies.
The ending these two wrote make sense in the context of the overall story, so it was most likely based on his Dad's notes. Bioenginnering a superhuman over thousands of years in order to save humanity from Terminators actually makes sense considering these ideas were written years before they became cheesy Hollywood tropes. Ignore the book neckbeards gatekeeping Dune.
21:42 "... These guys are just copying the Terminator movies!.." ;))
Dune came first...
@@mzm4574 Yes, and that was written by Frank Herbert. Neither of these two men is Frank. The expanded Dune universe did not exist until after Terminator.
22:08
A great model for collaboration between two amazing brains... Something that's not easy: ideas, prose style, plot, to make justice to the genius of Frank Herbert🤯. It's a huge responsibility and show a great deal of understanding. My total admiration ❤️❤️❤️
Talks at Microsoft. Tells them h uses apple ipod
Very interesting. Good to hear about their vision on writing more dune books.
Hacks. Does anyone consider this garbage to be canon?
only mental midgets
I was impressed by the importance finally given to Dr Kynes. He was the avatar for the reader of Dune, and his involvement in terraforming dune was the starting point of the story. Did you read it?
Are you really going to support Brian Herbert and Anderson ?
I stopped reading the books these guys wrote when it became painfully obvious to me that they are pulling these stories out of their asses. The magic died when Frank Herbert did.
Pot Boilers of Dune......
The worst female voice I have ever had the misfortune to hear. Thank you.
What year was this ?
bebeoploki it looks like it's from 1976
Right? Published 2016 BUT this video has to be from 2004-2005 and most likely it was filmed on videocam film.
2007 - they talk about seeing the first copies of "Sandworms of Dune" the day before. The book was published in 2007.
Paul of Dune, first published: Sep 16, 2008, and Kevin made a reference to it being the next book. Im thinking late 2007, early 2008.
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siht si raey tahw
May Shai Hulud cast their water into the sand
HAAAAAAAAAAACKS
Why not do the complete series of Dune from start to finish I'm getting sick of seeing the remake of the first book an Children of Dune really sucked Do them all from first to last it's epic just do it
The Alonso Fernández de Avellanedas to Frank Herbert's Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra.
Melange is definitely dmt
"On Calidan, we ruled by air and sea." How about the story of the Atraedes line's rise? Another story line in the "world" might be the legend of moidib, the "teacher of boys."
That was wonderful!
Paul of Dune is an excellent book.
WTF
How can Erasmus be dead in Mentats of Dune And Alive in Sandworms of Dune?
Its a different Erasmus, one of the copies that the original Omnious beamed to know where in desperation during the assult on terra. Thats why he still the evil bastard not the one who evolved.
It's basically Erasmus without the character development
Apart from the first book, dune is shite.
Sez you. Here's a thing....Nobody cares what you think. How about you go play in traffic now.
If that's your opinion, you obviously didn't read the other books.
I like the first one the best, my second favorite is Children, than Heretics, than God Emperor, than Messiah than Chpaterhouse.
Another attention seeker