Would have been nice to give a basic overview of differences between Gold and Silver, TK and RL for those not in the know. Just a thought! Love your content, keep it up!
@@marthamryglod291 alum would be way lighter and would wear faster if poorly maintained but I'm sure both are coated to resist wear. However who knows.
I notice long term trends, (As we get older, we should.). In 95 when I was working in the manufacturing of Ti. Bikes (Nuke Proof when in Michigan), and riding a lot the 3" travel fork (about 80mm) was considered too long, to much movement for the frame geometry and bobbing when climbing. Full suspension and disk brake for XC? No way, never happen. :) Today they have around 5" of travel for XC, are not stiff, (some may still have lever on the fly lock outs, lie my old Duke 3" fork), and the head angles they worried about being slack from a taller fork,---ended up going to about 71 degrees to a very slack 65 degrees,---like a chopper. I can turn my little Nuke Proof on a dime compared to the modern chopper I also have. The Trek Marlin is a tank compared to old school. :)
Great explanation! My e-mountain bike has the Zeb and my all-around mountain bike has the Reba. Never really knew the different models or their specific purposes. Thanks.
Being new to mtb, I left it up to the bike shop to choose the fork best suited to my size, bike and local trails. I understood the fox lineup for the most part, but was lost looking at rockshox. Ultimately went with the 35rl gold.
I think the downhill Boxer,---is the same name of the fork since they first made it decades ago. From the first fork, type/usage/style, to today, it is rare that up grades did not change the name.
You seem to know quite a bit about shocks. I'm doing a budget build and I need shocks. While I'm not intending to do any extreme jumping, I would like to do some jumps with it, and will probably ride this bike hard. (That's what she said). I weigh 220, I'm 6'2. What's the bare minimum shock I could get away with? I'm open to any brand. I was looking at the Recon silver RL but I don't think it's tough enough for what I would like to do, or is it? My price cap is $500 but I would like to spend less than that if I can. Thanks man!
A lot of work went into presenting the information in this video. And his voice over was done pretty flawlessly and also takes a lot of preparation and work.
@@weekendmountainbiker9457 I know what it takes, I can edit and do sound design etc. It actually doesn't take as much work as you may think. It's quite easy. Btw, that was random, were you intending to reply to someone else?
I think either a revelation or 35 gold will do it for you, if you feel that its too soft try using 2 tokens and a bit more air in it see how it feels, hope I did not come too late for this.
You forgot to mention that the first fork, the RockShox 30, is a fork for retro wheel "drop outs". But unfortunately, also only has disk brake mounts. Mistake for a large retro market). I guess with out V-brake mounts on the sliders, I would have had to rebuild my old Dukes anyway. Think again RockShox. Kids forget the past too quickly today, so it is harder to pick a good future direction. "Know where ya been, to know where you are going", kind of thing.
Thank you for this.You have told me more than i could get from the supplier. I've just turned forty and bought a fathom 1, which came with the Rockshox 35 silver tk. I was told they were a upgrade to the Giant standard. But they are very soft and make a sucking noise. Any chance you can help?
Sounds like a setup issue. If it's too soft you can add more air or harden the compression on the damper. As for the sucking noise that's called top out and it's caused by having your rebound too fast. Hope this helped!
@@EverydayBiking top out is not sucking. Top out knock is when the fork returns to full travel and hits the bumper. The noise is the oil moving around or the seals moving on the uppers and is normal, the 35 is a basic emulsion damper. If you don’t know how a fork works you shouldn’t be telling people the differences.
@@Adam-vm8kp You could've just given him the advice without being an ass. If you know something, teach it, but don't act like you are so much better for it.
No need to. If you live in a country where their workshops are present, try to go to an NDTuned shop, they can make just about any fork feel and handle like a 1000€ fork, i took my Judy RL there and they replaced the paint on the stanchions, the damper and a few other internals and now it's more comfortable than a Rockshox Reba, and feels about the same as a Sid, just heavier
A recon has a very basic emulsion damper. Going to a 35mm pike or lyrik will be stiffer with a much plusher damper, better seals, better air spring etc Ignore this other guy he has no idea, stanchions are not painted and you cannot get a cheap damper to operate like a top shelf one. Replacing the damper is normally not cost effective unless you can find a cheap 2nd hand. I used to have a pike and it’s a mint fork.
@@Adam-vm8kp They are not if you happen to get one that matches your weight .... the chance of that are about one in a hundred (and that is a conservative estimate).
@@Chris-de2qc well…when you buy a proper coil shock, let’s say a fox dhx2 for example and you have got the correct eye to eye and stroke you then pick the relevant coil spring weight for your body weight+kit. Or you can get aftermarket ones, linear or progressive, varies materials. You’d think you’d have just looked this up first, I’m not talking about cheap nasty coils on a £200 bike here.
What makes you say that? I'm looking at upgrading my Growler 20 (bought because of this channel) soon and the 35 was on my list of maybes. Unfortunately when upgrading components its hard to try before you buy. It seemed a good budget option.
@@TylersChannel1000 I believe the rockshox 35 is a great option for upgrading and just in general as a high performance budget fork. However you got to keep in mind, there are different versions of the 35, that being the 35 Gold rl and the silver tk. The silver has an option of a coil spring, or a solo air air spring, however the 35 Gold RL, has a debon air spring aswell as rockshox motion control dampening, it also gets aluminium stanchions, where the lower model 35s get steel stanchions. Big difference between the 35 gold, and 35 silver. If you were upgrading, its defined worth getting the 35 gold as it just performs much better! I am also glad that you liked the growler series and are now building your own! Make sure to follow us on instagram, post a picture of it when you are done so we can see how it looks!
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Would have been nice to give a basic overview of differences between Gold and Silver, TK and RL for those not in the know. Just a thought! Love your content, keep it up!
Ah yes I maybe should have went a bit more into detail on that. Thanks for the feedback!
What do they mean?
@@daispatrick Gold is aluminum stanchions on the fork and Silver is Steel stanchions i believe.
@@b17derpy is that just a weight difference or is there a performance difference?
@@marthamryglod291 alum would be way lighter and would wear faster if poorly maintained but I'm sure both are coated to resist wear. However who knows.
Thanks for this video. It was well pit together. As a new rider it cleared up a lot of things.
I notice long term trends, (As we get older, we should.). In 95 when I was working in the manufacturing of Ti. Bikes (Nuke Proof when in Michigan), and riding a lot the 3" travel fork (about 80mm) was considered too long, to much movement for the frame geometry and bobbing when climbing. Full suspension and disk brake for XC? No way, never happen. :)
Today they have around 5" of travel for XC, are not stiff, (some may still have lever on the fly lock outs, lie my old Duke 3" fork), and the head angles they worried about being slack from a taller fork,---ended up going to about 71 degrees to a very slack 65 degrees,---like a chopper.
I can turn my little Nuke Proof on a dime compared to the modern chopper I also have. The Trek Marlin is a tank compared to old school. :)
Great explanation! My e-mountain bike has the Zeb and my all-around mountain bike has the Reba. Never really knew the different models or their specific purposes. Thanks.
Great video I had no idea what type of shock I got on my gurilla gravity smash I got the lyric at least I know I didn’t buy junk. Much appreciated
Congrats on 1k!
Thank you!
Brother, God bless you for this short but really helpful video.
That is what i was looking to understand because i am trying to figure out which ebike is best equipped for the same money
Congrats on almost 3K!!!! Update when?
Being new to mtb, I left it up to the bike shop to choose the fork best suited to my size, bike and local trails. I understood the fox lineup for the most part, but was lost looking at rockshox. Ultimately went with the 35rl gold.
I want more colors for rockshox
I think the downhill Boxer,---is the same name of the fork since they first made it decades ago. From the first fork, type/usage/style, to today, it is rare that up grades did not change the name.
Super helpful.
Thanks, this made me understand the difference!
You seem to know quite a bit about shocks. I'm doing a budget build and I need shocks. While I'm not intending to do any extreme jumping, I would like to do some jumps with it, and will probably ride this bike hard. (That's what she said). I weigh 220, I'm 6'2. What's the bare minimum shock I could get away with? I'm open to any brand. I was looking at the Recon silver RL but I don't think it's tough enough for what I would like to do, or is it? My price cap is $500 but I would like to spend less than that if I can.
Thanks man!
A lot of work went into presenting the information in this video. And his voice over was done pretty flawlessly and also takes a lot of preparation and work.
@@weekendmountainbiker9457 I know what it takes, I can edit and do sound design etc. It actually doesn't take as much work as you may think. It's quite easy. Btw, that was random, were you intending to reply to someone else?
@@dangerous8333 My comment was just a compliment to the channel 🍻
100mm air shock
I think either a revelation or 35 gold will do it for you, if you feel that its too soft try using 2 tokens and a bit more air in it see how it feels, hope I did not come too late for this.
Thanks! Very helpful.
Thanks ! Really helpfull
You forgot to mention that the first fork, the RockShox 30, is a fork for retro wheel "drop outs". But unfortunately, also only has disk brake mounts. Mistake for a large retro market).
I guess with out V-brake mounts on the sliders, I would have had to rebuild my old Dukes anyway. Think again RockShox. Kids forget the past too quickly today, so it is harder to pick a good future direction. "Know where ya been, to know where you are going", kind of thing.
can anyone please tell me what is the price diffference between judy and judy silver
But Tora is like mother of all fork, Domain father of enduro.
And you forget them lol
Good info! Thanks.👍👍👍
What about RockShox Domain 302 is the father of Enduro
What is the difference between a trail fork, and an enduro fork? Both are trails. I don't understand the modern terminology. Not sure if anybody does.
Hi! what is the real difference between the Rock Shox 30 Silver and the Judy silver Coil? Thanks
I wished I would have watched this before I bought the Pike. I have a heavy ebike and I'm over 200 lbs. Plus I am more of an enduro rider.
How about ricksox totem and domain?
Nice job. That scrip took some edits before voicing, I bet🔥
Liked and sub'd 🙌
Thank you for this.You have told me more than i could get from the supplier. I've just turned forty and bought a fathom 1, which came with the Rockshox 35 silver tk. I was told they were a upgrade to the Giant standard. But they are very soft and make a sucking noise. Any chance you can help?
Sounds like a setup issue. If it's too soft you can add more air or harden the compression on the damper. As for the sucking noise that's called top out and it's caused by having your rebound too fast. Hope this helped!
@@EverydayBiking top out is not sucking. Top out knock is when the fork returns to full travel and hits the bumper. The noise is the oil moving around or the seals moving on the uppers and is normal, the 35 is a basic emulsion damper. If you don’t know how a fork works you shouldn’t be telling people the differences.
@@Adam-vm8kp You could've just given him the advice without being an ass. If you know something, teach it, but don't act like you are so much better for it.
@@Adam-vm8kp dude calm down, he was just trying to help the other dude, no need to get aggressive.
are the sektors compatible with 2.8 inch tyres v
i bought the xc 30 gold is it good because i cant find a clear enough answear
Is it true that Rockshox SID have issues?
You missed the xcwc with carbon uppers and steerer tube... or maybe mines a prototype
xcwc?
Recon rl or judy gold which are Better?
The "carbon inverted XC fork",---is not compatible in the "XC community"? Are you sure your commune is big enough? Maybe missing a mechanic. lol
I had a boxxer pro without caliper bosses. I know rochshox
Where does the rhythm fit in? I heard it's OEM?
Lol… brooo that’s fox! This is Rockshox
Is it possible to put the sid sl on a 24" cruiser?
It is possible to put the Sid SL on a coffee table if you wanted.
Should I upgrade from a recon to a pike or lyrik?
No need to. If you live in a country where their workshops are present, try to go to an NDTuned shop, they can make just about any fork feel and handle like a 1000€ fork, i took my Judy RL there and they replaced the paint on the stanchions, the damper and a few other internals and now it's more comfortable than a Rockshox Reba, and feels about the same as a Sid, just heavier
A recon has a very basic emulsion damper. Going to a 35mm pike or lyrik will be stiffer with a much plusher damper, better seals, better air spring etc Ignore this other guy he has no idea, stanchions are not painted and you cannot get a cheap damper to operate like a top shelf one. Replacing the damper is normally not cost effective unless you can find a cheap 2nd hand. I used to have a pike and it’s a mint fork.
Is the fox 35 a air fork?
Yes
You neglect to mention if said shock is crappy Coil-Spring or useful air-spring.
Coil shocks aren’t crappy apart from what you’d find on a very cheap bike. The feeling of a coil is what air shocks are chasing.
@@Adam-vm8kp They are not if you happen to get one that matches your weight ....
the chance of that are about one in a hundred (and that is a conservative estimate).
@@Bonjour-World what? You buy the relevant spring for your weight….
@@Adam-vm8kp since when are coil customizable
@@Chris-de2qc well…when you buy a proper coil shock, let’s say a fox dhx2 for example and you have got the correct eye to eye and stroke you then pick the relevant coil spring weight for your body weight+kit. Or you can get aftermarket ones, linear or progressive, varies materials. You’d think you’d have just looked this up first, I’m not talking about cheap nasty coils on a £200 bike here.
rs sektor is better than 35 gold?
Yes, I think
Depends on model and what use
Forgot the domain
the video would have been better if with each model you would have ride the way the fork is intended to be used.
The RS 35 is garbage all around, the Bomber Z2 is much better for the same price.
Maybe it is! But for the purpose of this video we're just covering forks coming from RockShox! 🙂
What makes you say that? I'm looking at upgrading my Growler 20 (bought because of this channel) soon and the 35 was on my list of maybes. Unfortunately when upgrading components its hard to try before you buy. It seemed a good budget option.
@@TylersChannel1000 I believe the rockshox 35 is a great option for upgrading and just in general as a high performance budget fork. However you got to keep in mind, there are different versions of the 35, that being the 35 Gold rl and the silver tk. The silver has an option of a coil spring, or a solo air air spring, however the 35 Gold RL, has a debon air spring aswell as rockshox motion control dampening, it also gets aluminium stanchions, where the lower model 35s get steel stanchions. Big difference between the 35 gold, and 35 silver. If you were upgrading, its defined worth getting the 35 gold as it just performs much better! I am also glad that you liked the growler series and are now building your own! Make sure to follow us on instagram, post a picture of it when you are done so we can see how it looks!
@@TylersChannel1000 you can’t upgrade the 35 range to a charger damper