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  • @neptunedawn7121
    @neptunedawn7121 Рік тому +17

    I just love it when a criminal who thought he got away with murder gets a blast from his past by the police.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS 6 місяців тому +1

      It’s even worse when those victims are kids

  • @sunkissed1974
    @sunkissed1974 Рік тому +42

    Thank you for treating their remains like people. Their lives were taken but you give them back their humanity.

  • @nanaman
    @nanaman Рік тому +18

    Forensics experts have such amazing abilities

  • @MsFunology
    @MsFunology Рік тому +70

    Everytime they showed how the coroner had to examine the bodies that were already with maggots, with some liquid, etc., my tummy just swirl. I cannot imagine the smell and all the things that they had to deal with everyday. Salute to people working in forensic fields.

    • @clairebear206
      @clairebear206 Рік тому +6

      I was eating when I read ur comment and it made me feel more sick than when I’m actually watching these things 😂

    • @MsFunology
      @MsFunology Рік тому +11

      @@clairebear206 I watched many of these shows while eating. I don't know what's wrong with me 🙈😁.

    • @luzvisaworkman4797
      @luzvisaworkman4797 Рік тому +1

      I don’t think it smells death anymore because it’s 14 years old ?

    • @synergisticcollusion134
      @synergisticcollusion134 Рік тому +7

      ​@@luzvisaworkman4797 Bodies are found in different stages of decomposition. The OP is referring to those remains found when there's still flesh and fluids present, thus the smells they typically encounter. Although, most professionals in this field usually tend to go nose blind and not notice that "death" smell after so many years.

    • @tans6207
      @tans6207 10 місяців тому

      Anything that is still moist , smells bad believe me . Bones out in the fields or bush for years generally don’t smell as they are dry . Bless all the dead. 🇦🇺🦘

  • @zuzellogan5613
    @zuzellogan5613 Рік тому +6

    Great detective work in all cases of these episodes, really awesome. 👍 Thank you Detectives for your hard work bringing to justice dangerous criminals, it is appreciated. 🙌👏

  • @GlamRockCowboy
    @GlamRockCowboy 2 роки тому +76

    Jackson Carraon Villarta's third parole petition was denied in August of 2021. His wife divorced him in 2017. Given the viciousness of his crime, it is unlikely that he will ever be released.

    • @cynthiatolman326
      @cynthiatolman326 2 роки тому +23

      So his wife, Chris' mother, stayed married to the man who killed her son for years after he was convicted? Explains why she allowed him to treat her son so badly to begin with. I don't have much sympathy for her.

    • @Guifross
      @Guifross 2 роки тому +1

      @@cynthiatolman326 she’s disgusting

    • @ggh167
      @ggh167 2 роки тому +9

      So unthinkable of him to go what he did!! His poor mom! No smell coming from the crawl space?? What a monster she married!! I pray he never sees the light of sun ever again! No parole ever!!! 😡🇨🇦

    • @Flamsterette
      @Flamsterette 2 роки тому +1

      What did he do?

    • @feliciajenkins5041
      @feliciajenkins5041 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@cynthiatolman326 exactly

  • @deborahphillips9034
    @deborahphillips9034 Рік тому +3

    I’m so thankful for forensic science. If I could change my profession, I would be a forensic firearms expert. But I’m 69, & I love to see bad guys get caught.

  • @karencaring3356
    @karencaring3356 2 роки тому +77

    Genetic genealogy is another forensic tool. We just had two 40 year old murders solved up here in Canada using genetic genealogy. The murderer was found and arrested two days ago!

    • @susanhowe163
      @susanhowe163 2 роки тому +4

      YAAAA, FOR OUR SIDE.

    • @edinacloud5968
      @edinacloud5968 2 роки тому +10

      That'd be a great technique to use to bring Jonbenét Ramsey's brutal killer to justice.

    • @marshapieroni6677
      @marshapieroni6677 Рік тому +3

      That's great! Is that the same thing as Familia DNA? We are having great results w that too. I wish the funds were available for solving all the crimes. Especially rape, murder, and attempted murder.

  • @teresamize743
    @teresamize743 Рік тому +25

    I'm glad that man got life, even though he should have gotten the death penalty, for making the mother be near her son, hoping he was still alive. My heart goes out to this mother. I lost my son and it's the worst losing the love of your life, prayers for the family

    • @michellepollard3591
      @michellepollard3591 Рік тому +1

    • @sinneadfert
      @sinneadfert 3 місяці тому

      That man is evil personified. Just the thought of what he did disturbed me beyond belief. I have to admit I am glad they didn't include the mom's reaction when she did find out. And I cannot begin to imagine what you went through.

  • @PHBRNTGGR2
    @PHBRNTGGR2 Рік тому +17

    As a mother of three boys…all grown up, the case about Chris just pisses me off.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому +3

      I’ve read the actual details of the case and they reveal very disturbing details. Dale (Chris’s mother) is also to blame because she was to inept to question Jackson’s power of authority. Just because he was strict, that didn’t mean he had to be so harsh on Chris and Cherie (Chris’s sister). Jackson liked running things in anyway he sees fit (regardless if his rules were inhumane).

    • @starchild352
      @starchild352 Рік тому +6

      I commented somewhere else on this about the boys mum and I got harassed online for it
      I totally agree I’ve got 2 boys and the thought of not seeing them for even a week would make me terrified
      She’s just as bad she put that man before her children
      And I refuse to believe she didn’t smell her sons body rotting underneath the house
      Makes my blood boil

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS 11 місяців тому +1

      ⁠@@starchild352 Most divorced parents are often negligent when it comes to them bringing their kids into a blended household. All parents are supposed to put their children above everything else (including new relationships) but Dale (Chris’s mother) was a coward for putting her marriage to Jackson ahead of Chris and Cherie (Chris’s sister).
      What bothers me even more about Dale, she was aware of that odor but took Jackson’s word that it was a dead snake 🐍 (which was why Dale and Cherie made the same statement to police when they were asked about it).

  • @theresastang6054
    @theresastang6054 Рік тому +5

    I highly admire the team of experts !

  • @pamelahanson49
    @pamelahanson49 2 роки тому +20

    Thanks for your efforts to bring justice for the innocent death.

  • @MarthaAnderson-ex9yb
    @MarthaAnderson-ex9yb 3 місяці тому

    I love these episodes of New Detectives awesome 👍😎👍

  • @janicehill5605
    @janicehill5605 Рік тому +3

    Incredible detective and police work 😮

  • @eileenlocke7877
    @eileenlocke7877 Рік тому +1

    So sad 😢 .forensics are so clever thank goodness

  • @AllTheCritters
    @AllTheCritters Рік тому +13

    Cops rush to the scene where the skeleton was found as if it would flee the scene😂😂😂

    • @nbsoboleski
      @nbsoboleski Рік тому

      Hahahahahahaha!!

    • @nbsoboleski
      @nbsoboleski Рік тому +1

      20:30 Yes! Anddddd... after 15 years pass by, the arresting officers still race like hellcats, turning corners on two wheels to make a speedy arrest. After 15 years, every second counts...

  • @zuzellogan5613
    @zuzellogan5613 Рік тому +11

    The case about Suzette Troutman was sad. She thought she was going to have an exciting life making good money, traveling around the world, but never accomplished that at the hands because of a con artist, lying, deceiving man who was also a murderer. Very sad and tragic along like the other young ladies that this evil monster killed. May all the victims Rest in Peace always 🙏
    On a lighter note:
    My niece happens to have the same name, Suzette. And she is as pretty as the name is. 😊♥️

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому

      Plus the Chris Denoyer is another case of blended terror

  • @karencaring3356
    @karencaring3356 2 роки тому +5

    Forensic botany is fascinating!

  • @simplygem8449
    @simplygem8449 2 роки тому +62

    I'm not dumb, this mother was willfully ignorant. You COULDN'T tell me that my baby JUST RAN AWAY. He would've awakened with a gun to his head being pressured to tell me where my baby was. You mean to tell me, she didn't suspect anything, knowing the history. She didn't smell rotten flesh... GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK... SHE'S A CULPRIT
    RIP TO HER BABY ☝🏾🙏🏾

    • @sarat6723
      @sarat6723 2 роки тому +12

      The body smell fir days and weeks
      What kind a mom been pregnant she should have smell everything!!!
      It’s just hard to say she didn’t know !!!!

    • @elizethompson8627
      @elizethompson8627 2 роки тому +9

      The police came speeding, did he tell them it is a skeleton?

    • @LadyEowyn
      @LadyEowyn Рік тому +10

      I think she was denial. It's easier to believe he's okay and staying distant than dead.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому +6

      @@LadyEowynBut why tell police that she thought it was a dead snake 🐍 (the same story that they got from her daughter Cherie)?

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому +4

      @@sarat6723 Dale (Chris’s mother) actually did recall smelling it and she told police the same story her that her daughter Cherie told them, that they were told it was a dead snake 🐍.

  • @mistermagnifico
    @mistermagnifico Рік тому +7

    05:31 A body is found in a shallow grave but its finding a bullet for the police to believe it may be a homicide

  • @GlamRockCowboy
    @GlamRockCowboy 2 роки тому +15

    Arohn Kee is currently serving three consecutive sentences of life without parole.

  • @GlamRockCowboy
    @GlamRockCowboy 2 роки тому +9

    Thomas Lee Harte's appeal was denied in June of 2000. I have not been able to find any other information about him.

  • @anthonymontana6758
    @anthonymontana6758 2 роки тому +17

    We love these new uploads of the new detectives case studies in forensic science

    • @gib59er56
      @gib59er56 Рік тому +1

      It shows cases from 25 years ago. Good stuff though.

    • @treasurehunteruk9718
      @treasurehunteruk9718 Рік тому +2

      Aren't these very old? The computers with the large backs are ancient.

    • @anthonymontana6758
      @anthonymontana6758 Рік тому +1

      @@treasurehunteruk9718 yes there old but not cold right?

    • @anthonymontana6758
      @anthonymontana6758 Рік тому

      @@gib59er56 indeed

    • @treasurehunteruk9718
      @treasurehunteruk9718 Рік тому +1

      @@anthonymontana6758 I LOVE Forensic Files. Can't get enough of them. They are not as good without with the new presenter, though. The oldies are perfect.

  • @JDKelleherMusic
    @JDKelleherMusic Рік тому +2

    The reconstructions are very good on this show.

  • @britth5333
    @britth5333 2 роки тому +124

    How heartbreaking for that mom knowing she had been right near her son that whole time and had hope all that time he was alive. So sad. What a monster of a stepdad.

    • @cynthiatolman326
      @cynthiatolman326 2 роки тому +21

      I always think how could they allow another person to live in their home when they have so much hate and hostility toward my child. Even if it doesn't get to murder.He obviously moved in and decided he was the boss of the family and if a teen-age boy didn't realize that he had to go. Monster

    • @angeesteiner8493
      @angeesteiner8493 2 роки тому +1

      It does not seem to me like the mother was all that concerned, it did not appear that she, according to the show, put in much effort to try and locate her missing son. She seemed to be stuck up her husband's butt.

    • @starchild352
      @starchild352 2 роки тому +16

      I don’t feel sorry for the mum at all she let this man systematically bully her children and did nothing about it
      My mum did that to me and my brother he made are life hell
      I left at 15 because of him and was homeless
      Rather that than be abused by a stranger in what was supposed to be my safe place
      I have 2 sons me and there dad split up they have never had a stepdad
      This is there home and there ain’t no way in hell I’m going to let some dude abuse my kids
      I think I’d actually go to prison
      And I don’t care about people saying not all men are the same blah blah blah
      I ain’t even taking the risk
      At the end of the day all step parents secretly resent there step kids because they are a constant reminder of that persons past
      This mum failed her kids
      And how can you just except that your son has ran away and not even look for him
      Absolutely heart breaking poor boy

    • @brendahennesseereger8609
      @brendahennesseereger8609 2 роки тому +15

      Mom put her need for a man over the safety of her children.

    • @Shejejfjd
      @Shejejfjd 2 роки тому

      .
      ,,,
      Maatappa

  • @dawnmancell2330
    @dawnmancell2330 2 роки тому +11

    That's a shame that someone would do this to someone. That'd sadden my heart 💔

  • @davidrichardestradad.e.6394
    @davidrichardestradad.e.6394 2 роки тому +7

    Wow Robinson is a monster. how very sad & tragic for all of the woman.

  • @MannyBots
    @MannyBots Рік тому +12

    I don't think the young lady from the start first episode has ever seen a horror movie 😂 Going under the house alone to verify a claim of human remains has to be one of the horror movie esque intros out there lol Horror tropes aside though, I am glad that she did check...No-one deserves to be gone from the world with no final resting place, and no family should have to question their loved ones whereabouts nor their status of life. Because he was found he can finally be placed to rest, his loved ones can finally have a place to visit and mourn, many of the "what ifs?" have been answered, and justice was finally served. Justice Delayed can often become Justice Denied...I relieved that wasn't the case here when all was said and done.

  • @laurallama73
    @laurallama73 11 місяців тому +1

    Wow! That last case!

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS 11 місяців тому +1

      Plus the first case involving parental negligence

  • @petroonajourney3503
    @petroonajourney3503 Рік тому +9

    Jackson really was the worst stepfather ever. Tom Hart looks really creepy in his photograph. John Robertson was a true monster, feel so sorry for all his victims and their loved ones.
    Thank you to everybody that helped bring them to justice.

  • @ylocoslovakia
    @ylocoslovakia Рік тому +8

    17 years only for a life taken? wow RIP Chris

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому +2

      Jackson is still in prison today after his 3rd bid for parole was denied on August 10, 2021

  • @Stacie-uk7uk
    @Stacie-uk7uk 9 місяців тому +1

    When Jackson gets out I'll be waiting

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS 9 місяців тому +1

      He’s been denied parole a total of 3 times and won’t be getting out soon

  • @GlamRockCowboy
    @GlamRockCowboy 2 роки тому +22

    One of John Robinson's murder convictions was overturned in 2015 on an unspecified technicality. His remaining murder conviction, which carries a death sentence, remains in effect. However, since it is in Kansas, which has not carried out an execution since 1965, it seems likely that he will die in prison. His wife divorced him in 2017.

    • @cynthiatolman326
      @cynthiatolman326 2 роки тому +5

      I was thinking the other day just how effective a death penalty can be when most who sit on death row die of other things, such as cancer, or even old age. Wonder what the percentage is.

    • @rocioaguilera3555
      @rocioaguilera3555 2 роки тому

      Thanks, Mr. Nicol.

    • @l7846
      @l7846 2 роки тому +2

      Ummmm. Its not Kansas... California, land of the eternal death row.

  • @ChristineAustralia74
    @ChristineAustralia74 2 роки тому +58

    I refuse to believe the mother had no idea of Chris's whereabouts. He decayed under her feet, 100% she could smell that! I don't understand how they even entered the house 🙎‍♀️

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому +6

      Dale (Chris’s mother) was to negligent to call the local news or even the producers of Unsolved Mysteries. She could’ve done that if the pigs weren’t going to help her in 1984. Plus she also neglected to call a home inspector to investigate the odor
      On January 19, Dale did notice 😮the words "BYE" written on a chalkboard in the kitchen. She also noticed $3 or $4 nearby and saw that some tuna and ramen noodles were missing from the kitchen. Dale found several boxes containing Chris's clothing packed in the garage but the clothing was not clothing that Chris regularly wore. According to Dale, Chris did not usually eat tuna or ramen noodles and he never paid Dale for food. There’s no doubt Jackson did all that because he knew Chris wasn’t coming back because he killed him
      Plus what reason did Dale have for listing Carlotta Davis (Chris’s girlfriend) as a contact reference on a missing persons report?
      She didn’t deny it was there and she told the same story that Cherie told them that they thought it was a dead snake 🐍

    • @phyliciapellew6368
      @phyliciapellew6368 Рік тому +7

      That is so true because when a body is decomposing it smells badly

    • @marshapieroni6677
      @marshapieroni6677 Рік тому +1

      There's always that one....or two

    • @helenachase5627
      @helenachase5627 Рік тому +3

      Good point

    • @cruisepaige
      @cruisepaige Рік тому +5

      She chose some guy over her baby

  • @taleandclawrock2606
    @taleandclawrock2606 Рік тому +1

    His poor mother😭😭😭

  • @marypatten9655
    @marypatten9655 Рік тому +2

    Great series. The DNA actually proves the unreliability of eyes witnesses identification.
    Thank you for sharing
    God bless

  • @birdyelke775
    @birdyelke775 Рік тому +2

    Thanks to that good caring mother, that the Cruel son of a gun, John was a killer and was caught, and caged. Awesome tasks by you all. Kudos

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS 11 місяців тому

      But Chris Denoyer’s mother Dale, failed to put Chris and Cherie (Chris’s sister) ahead of her marriage to that prick Jackson.

  • @cynthiatolman326
    @cynthiatolman326 2 роки тому +18

    This is the 'hey honey I think there's a dead body under the house, will you go down and check that out for me? Sure babe, hand me that flashlight' story. The police actually thought it was a mistake or a prank when they got the call about it. Tom Hart told police his fantasy when talking about the last time he saw Mark, saying he told him, 'you're wife's leaving you for me', sure she was, (so why aren't they living together now?) then talked about him like he was a homeless bum who didn't own a car and needed a ride to the store to hang with his other homeless pals.

  • @marilynh.5227
    @marilynh.5227 2 роки тому +21

    He was convicted and sentence in 2000 but the wife didn't divorce him until 2017. What took her so long to divorce him? This was a very sad story. It seems the mom was kind of glad her son left to be with that murdering partner.

    • @Texas_Made_
      @Texas_Made_ 2 роки тому +1

      Mmmm hmmmmm,happens all the time

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому +2

      It was still in process at the time of the trial but why it took 17 years for it to be official is an bigger mystery.

    • @EllenLeah-pv2yw
      @EllenLeah-pv2yw 4 місяці тому

      @@INDLIS She was in the process of obtaining the official divorce during his trial. She expressed intense anger and disgust with the man who murdered her son as soon as she found out, and that never changed for a second. Never visited him in jail. Never expressed anything but profound hatred for him. You can look up these details online and see for yourself. If what you’re saying about when the divorce was finalized is true, and I’ll definitely look that up, maybe he refused to sign the papers in jail or something. It’s sick how eager true crime fans are to blame mothers at every opportunity, regardless of their actual complicity or lack thereof, regardless of absolutely anything.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS 4 місяці тому

      @@EllenLeah-pv2yw Dale’s (Chris’s mother) failure to put her parental duties ahead of her marriage to Jackson was what got him killed. Even Carlotta Davis (Chris’s girlfriend) has own questions about Dale such as why did she list her name on the missing persons report (as someone to contact)? Jackson was a control freak and that he chose not to run things with proper precision when it came to Chris and his sister Cherie. I’m aware that Jackson humiliated Dale after the original investigators closed off the investigation (based on the phone mail gram). She tried to look for Chris on her own and that made Jackson angry. One of Dale’s coworkers did state how Jackson went off “Dale is just wasting her time trying to locate that punk when she should be taking care of me”. By the time was body found and after Jackson’s interview with police didn’t give Dale any comfort and instead ran up to Dale and said, "They said I killed Chris, and I didn't do it."

  • @Flamsterette
    @Flamsterette 2 роки тому +1

    I think that's awesome!

  • @Casperlina96
    @Casperlina96 Рік тому +7

    So, the case with Aaron Key...
    They couldn't run the DNA comparison bc the database was too large? But they already narrowed down the possible options to at least one murder case, right?
    So why didn't they do a quick comparison of that one to him to establish cause to keep him locked up? They ended up letting him go and of course the rat ran.
    This incompetence almost cost the life of another woman.

  • @eleanorwilson39
    @eleanorwilson39 Рік тому +3

    The Detective,s deserve a medial they work so hard to solved this case. Thumbs up them

  • @maryamtdr1826
    @maryamtdr1826 Рік тому

    Amazing but scary job

  • @jasmindumalay2002
    @jasmindumalay2002 Рік тому

    God Bless his soul!Amen

  • @ShabbyChicBoho
    @ShabbyChicBoho Рік тому +41

    RIP to those who lost their lifes. Prayers for the families even though these are old cases. I'm sure it never gets easier over the years. 😢

    • @marshapieroni6677
      @marshapieroni6677 Рік тому +2

      Yes although to finally find out what happened to them has to be some solace

  • @minecachair
    @minecachair 2 роки тому +31

    First story-it's like those horror films where the teenagers,alone in an old house, hear a strange noise in the attic then actually go and investigate.Who in their right mind would do that?If I thought I'd found a body under my house,no way would i go crawling around after it!

    • @richardkranium2944
      @richardkranium2944 Рік тому

      Why not go down there to make sure it’s actually a body before calling police? What’s it going to do, become a zombie?
      I probably wouldn’t call the police, I’d bury it right with the backhoe and cement just to avoid paying my attorney to be present while I talked to police. I also wouldn’t want the police in my house being a crime scene while I get to foot the bill at a hotel and continue to pay the bills at my house.
      Call it obstruction of justice, I call it avoiding calling people that like to throw me under the bus.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому

      @@richardkranium2944​That’s because Eric and Diana Carbajal had actually gotten a letter from Salinas PD (who were in the process of clearing out missing persons reports) regarding Chris Denoyer being reported missing from that residence (the same day the police got the call about the body under the house) The crawl space was only about two inches deep and it would’ve been difficult to dig an even bigger hole in such a confined area. A short handled back hoe was also recovered at the crime scene and that a tool of that nature was used in the demo tape.

    • @treasurehunteruk9718
      @treasurehunteruk9718 Рік тому +2

      I thought the same thing. Spiders and snakes could be under the house.

    • @KilliansMom1
      @KilliansMom1 Рік тому +1

      Not to mention a dead body😮
      Sad. When people are killed, we never know what they could have achieved! 😢😢😢

  • @ellenthom34
    @ellenthom34 2 роки тому +6

    In my state you can't sell a house without inspectors going over Everything!!

  • @agems56
    @agems56 Рік тому +1

    I can't understand how anyone can move into a house and not explore everything such as a crawl space! Even forgotten treasures could have been forgotten there!

  • @judibiggerstaff8054
    @judibiggerstaff8054 2 роки тому +13

    Why are police racing to a skeleton?

    • @noeltimm246
      @noeltimm246 2 роки тому +5

      yeah, tires skidding, sirens ?

    • @cynthiatolman326
      @cynthiatolman326 2 роки тому +4

      They did in the reconstruction, lol, but I actually heard an officer say in another documentary somewhere they thought it was a prank and didn't believe it at first.

    • @steelhurricane4041
      @steelhurricane4041 2 роки тому +2

      Lol 😂 yeah the skeleton isn't going anywhere.

  • @barrykennethdaniel7411
    @barrykennethdaniel7411 2 роки тому +26

    Sorry I feel for the mother, but if my son disappeared under those circumstances I'd be doing everything in my power to point the finger at the step father and I'd be divorcing him immeadiatly. First they said she knew he didn't run away, then that she thought he was alive. They should have searched every inch of the property right away.

    • @barrykennethdaniel7411
      @barrykennethdaniel7411 2 роки тому +11

      I mean he was convicted in 2000 but she didn't divorce him till 2017. WTF!!! ain't no way I'd stay married to the man that killed my son one second longer then it would take to get a divorce.

    • @JaneDoe-xn3ct
      @JaneDoe-xn3ct 2 роки тому +1

      How did she not notice the extreme stench and foul fucking smell of a decomposing body? That house must have smelled terrible for many years.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому +1

      @@JaneDoe-xn3ct Cherie (Chris’s sister) stated at trial that everyone complained about it (including her mother Dale) and Jackson kept saying that he didn’t smell anything. He would later go on to say that it was a dead snake 🐍 (which was why Cherie and her mother told that to police when asked about it).

    • @EllenLeah-pv2yw
      @EllenLeah-pv2yw 4 місяці тому

      @@barrykennethdaniel7411She was in the process of obtaining the official divorce during his trial. She expressed intense anger and disgust with the man who murdered her son as soon as she found out, and that never changed for a second. Never visited him in jail. Never expressed anything but profound hatred for him. You can look up these details online and see for yourself. If what you’re saying about when the divorce was finalized is true, and I’ll definitely look that up, maybe he refused to sign the papers in jail or something. It’s sick how eager true crime fans are to blame mothers at every opportunity, regardless of their actual complicity or lack thereof, regardless of absolutely anything.

    • @EllenLeah-pv2yw
      @EllenLeah-pv2yw 4 місяці тому

      When did they say she knew he didn’t run away? You can’t tell me because it didn’t happen. She got that fake letter from him, in which he explained why he left, and she believed that it was he who sent it.

  • @ChrisGroggyCreaser
    @ChrisGroggyCreaser Рік тому +3

    Esp Glad Robinson was caught!!... :( *The Death penalty Isn't used Often enough in horrible,premeditated murders!!.... :(

  • @mikecheck5711
    @mikecheck5711 Рік тому +6

    Have seen enough of these to know immediately that Chris was murdered by his step-father.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому +2

      I knew it had to be him but from what I read from the actual details, it was during his interview with police that he gave himself away. He was the only person to describe Chris in a negative manner and contradicted everyone’s claim that he didn’t smell any bad odors in the house

    • @marshapieroni6677
      @marshapieroni6677 Рік тому +1

      As soon as they said "stepfather" and "strict"

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому

      @@marshapieroni6677 He was actually the ultimate control freak

  • @abocas
    @abocas 2 роки тому +15

    First case: her teenage son and daughter had problems adapting to her new husband. What?? What a mother is she ....

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому +6

      Dale (Chris’s mother) was actually to negligent to care about Chris and Cherie’s (Chris’s sister) needs (since divorcing their father Michael). Jackson was a total control freak and he would impose very harsh rules (which were mostly inhumane). He was known to put post-it notes on his favorite foods and drinks. The notes contained statements such as "Don't eat this. Property of Jack's. Don't touch." If Chris or Cherie ate appellant's food, drinks or touched his things, he’d get very angry. Although Dale did manage to seek family counseling, Jackson only attended one session and decided not to go back. Dale’s biggest downfall was not giving Jackson an ultimatum, that he either go back to counseling or she would leave him.
      Jackson was actually resentful of Chris and Cherie (even telling several other people that he didn’t want them around) and at one point he told both Dale and Annis Denoyer (Chris and Cherie’s grandmother) "if you don't get these kids out of here, I will. . . . I can't stand it anymore."
      What kind of mother would list her son’s 14-year-old girlfriend as a contact reference on a missing persons report?

    • @kriskalmer8832
      @kriskalmer8832 Рік тому

      Ok... hello

  • @cindyf5335
    @cindyf5335 2 роки тому +4

    What about the other women john Robinson killed? We’re more bodies found on the farm or elsewhere?

  • @donnac.1609
    @donnac.1609 2 роки тому +12

    Sad that the mother stayed with this guy through court and long after before divorcing. Perhaps denial played a part; or a deep fear! It's hard to believe she did not suspect foul play.

    • @Lucian_Media
      @Lucian_Media 2 роки тому +2

      Probably the fear

    • @eh-i1841
      @eh-i1841 2 роки тому +8

      He only got 17 years,for 3rd degree murder,with possible parole,after9 years.His first attempt was denied,in 2009.How can murdering a 16 year-old,by shooting them,in the head,from behind,and again in the chest,no be premeditated,after the first shot.The sentencing is crazy.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому

      @@Lucian_MediaThe fear started after the 1984 investigation was closed off based on the phony mail gram. Jackson humiliated Dale (Chris’s mother) for wasting 8 years trying to find Chris on her own

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому +6

      @@eh-i1841That’s because the first trial went deadlock but don’t worry he’s still in prison after being denied parole on August 10, 2021 for the 3rd time

    • @clairebear206
      @clairebear206 Рік тому +1

      @@eh-i1841they probably played the “in the heat of the moment” game

  • @barrykennethdaniel7411
    @barrykennethdaniel7411 2 роки тому +5

    How does a body lay right on the side of the road decomposing for a year an a half in a residential area and nobody notice it. It would stink like hell, at least for a while. Plus why the hell didn't they search the car and house of the very obvious suspect right away.

  • @mrsr003
    @mrsr003 Рік тому +2

    Love the way the cops come speeding in with lights and sirens. As if they can still help this poor soul!I get they don’t want anything disturbed. But it’s already been there for years.

    • @julieloucalcote1368
      @julieloucalcote1368 Рік тому

      It’s a tv show. They play to the dramatic. No way to know if the actual cops acted like that.

  • @reynaldoalcala8164
    @reynaldoalcala8164 Рік тому

    Oh I love this program because of live video posted in this very showed time

  • @Paul-mq5yn
    @Paul-mq5yn 2 роки тому +5

    don't bother with your sirens boys its been down there for years another 5 minutes won't hurt

  • @sarat6723
    @sarat6723 2 роки тому +3

    Lady case : they had him in jail and they toke all the coffee cups ?
    They they let him go ?
    Then he get out again ?
    All they had to do mark his spoon for lunch or diner!!! And they just had so much look getting him but they keep to slow -

  • @CissyBrazil
    @CissyBrazil 2 роки тому +7

    I’m surprised there was no odor shortly after burial under the house. Poor mom 💔

    • @marilynh.5227
      @marilynh.5227 2 роки тому +1

      Really? John Gacy the serial killer had 27 bodies buried in his crawl space in which his neighbors did in fact complain about the foul odor.

    • @cynthiatolman326
      @cynthiatolman326 2 роки тому +2

      Pretty dry area I believe. It's a big farming area, but they use irrigation.

    • @koalamanda8299
      @koalamanda8299 2 роки тому +4

      There was but he explained it off as a dead snake under the house or something and who's going to think that it must be a dead body?

    • @kenyattaclay7666
      @kenyattaclay7666 2 роки тому +2

      @@marilynh.5227 actually that’s not true. In fact that’s how the police were able to get a warrant to search under his house. First though, people would point out the smell & he would tell them that there was something wrong with the sewage.
      However after he came under suspicion because of his last victim the police began to follow him. One day Gacy invited them in his house & one of the detectives said when he was in the bathroom & the heat kicked on he could smell the oder of death so they left & was able to get the warrant.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому

      It was long gone at the time it was discovered but when police did ask Dale (Chris’s mother) about it she told the same story that her daughter Cherie said to them that they thought it was a dead snake 🐍. Jackson was the one who denied smelling it

  • @bonibon9317
    @bonibon9317 Рік тому

    This is a very good documentary is also told good

  • @sarat6723
    @sarat6723 2 роки тому +3

    Where this man as a life time criminal was getting money ?
    Day time busy with the woman’s
    Night time busy with his families.. living in a modern home ?
    and why his activities didn’t make the cups to look after him ?
    It was not a first woman who was missing by him ??? He should be under watch list already - sometimes the low is to easy for criminals . and if the mom was not after her daughter seriously,,,, he was still free ... the more they talk about him , the question comes why he was free ??? Why no one was after him ?

  • @christinesimpson6529
    @christinesimpson6529 Рік тому +2

    12yo homeless in Sydney both homeless people and gangster looking people were very good either giving us food or money for food or a cheap room (no strings) but business men in suites would offer a lovely room at their place even offered to fly us to Japan for good jobs!!!
    Just get in the car hahaha
    Only thing to do is RUN!!!
    DON'T believe ANY offers of a job or a home
    Nothing for Nothing

  • @conniekiers9554
    @conniekiers9554 Рік тому +1

    Why do the police need to go racing with the sirens blaring for a skeleton in a crawlspace? If it had been there for a long time already, i doubt it'll be going anywhere

  • @marcadams6397
    @marcadams6397 Рік тому +3

    Wow mr hart looks like he’s 80 instead of 52 damn

  • @INDLIS
    @INDLIS Рік тому +10

    This is the actual telegram that Jackson created after the murder.
    "Mom, I am fine. I am on my way to Newport Beach. Stop. Sorry. I had to leave too soon. I wish I could have stayed. Stop. I wish I could have continued to go to school there, but other circumstances came up. Jack was right in some things. I'm sorry for being very rude to you. Please take care of my things for me. Stop. I will either come for them or send for them. Stop. Later, Chris. P.S. See you when I'm in the NFL."
    Why didn’t Salinas PD investigate that phony telegram back in 1984? How could the original investigators be so stupid to believe that a 16-year-old would even know how to send a telegram?

    • @neptunedawn7121
      @neptunedawn7121 Рік тому

      Aren't telegrams billed by the word? Would Chris have so much money that he would be able to send such a long telegram?

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому

      @@neptunedawn7121 I wouldn’t know how they work. He wouldn’t have even known how to send one but the original investigators (back in 84) were to lazy and they just closed it off as a runaway
      First off, Chris hated Jackson and he wouldn’t have said that his stepfather was right.
      Second, Chris didn’t even know anyone in Newport Beach
      Finally, Chris had no plans of playing football 🏈 in any professional league even though he enjoyed playing it high school.
      Jackson wrote those things in that mail gram as his way of degrading Chris of his human nature. Chris was the victim of Jackson’s psychological abuse and that he was killed because Jackson couldn’t break him (even though it was stated at trial that he was killed for calling Jackson a dog killer).

  • @melissaclark7734
    @melissaclark7734 Рік тому +1

    Speaking on the first case, to all that love these shows like me. How many of you would still stay in that house ? And how many of you would have moved? I would have gone to the realtor's office and told them, " Hey! You should have said during the walkthrough that it also comes with a dead body. I want all my money back 😂😂

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому +2

      Perhaps that should’ve been done before giving that house to Eric and Diana Carbajal (the owners of the former Villarta residence). By the way it was actually Diana’s sister who went in and discovered the body.

  • @bluefaery1865
    @bluefaery1865 2 роки тому +1

    That Robinson guy is like that movie "The Dead Girl".

  • @brookescarletamesbury5892
    @brookescarletamesbury5892 Рік тому +1

    My brother in law is going to school right now so he can be the first examiner at the scene of the crime, I can’t imagine what kinds of things he’ll see but I’m glad he’s going to become a person that will aid in catching murderers

  • @madratter
    @madratter Рік тому

    That one detective sounds like Philip Seymour Hoffman 😅😎

  • @toforgetisagem8145
    @toforgetisagem8145 2 роки тому +1

    I wish the sirens weren't so loud. The voice is clear and audible. Then the siren sounds trying to blast my ear drums.

  • @sarat6723
    @sarat6723 2 роки тому +3

    17 years for a very young man ?
    That’s over cheep
    Some court they just don’t get there was a life stolen

    • @AnyCitrusTree
      @AnyCitrusTree 2 роки тому

      if you think that is too little jail time (I agree) then how about the low sentences men get for killing anyone they can claim as having been their 'partner' even if that was years ago and mainly in their fantasy?

    • @Lucian_Media
      @Lucian_Media 2 роки тому

      Sigh

    • @greenie2390
      @greenie2390 Рік тому +1

      It was 17 years to life. So when he reached so many years in prison he is eligible for parole. That does not mean he will get out. he entered in 1996 and as someone else said his latest parole in 2021 was denied so thankfully he is now reaching 27 years in prison.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому

      The first trial ended in a hung jury

  • @samsngdevice5103
    @samsngdevice5103 2 роки тому +1

    New detective starter kit:
    BUT THAT WASNT IT!

  • @teresasully3561
    @teresasully3561 Рік тому

    Yes I get it....grave .....secrets

  • @rosievasquez4378
    @rosievasquez4378 Рік тому +1

    Thank God that at least his mother now knows that her son never Her Never left her husband was the one that killed him. His stepdad will like he was asking that young man to respect him how in the world did he expect that young man to respect him if he didn’t respect him respect goes both ways if he did not respect that young man that you were insured and respect him. May he rest in peace

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому

      Because Jackson was a control freak and he was mentally abusive towards Chris and his sister Cherie. He put locks on cupboards, the master bedroom along with a cupboard in the garage plus put post it notes on just about everything around the house (including food and drinks in the refrigerator).

  • @nicholonhaughton1687
    @nicholonhaughton1687 Рік тому +2

    Who said, "Dead men tell no tales?" They're dead wrong!

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому +1

      Dead Men do Talk (which is the 2nd episode of the first season)

  • @derekbaker777
    @derekbaker777 Рік тому +3

    I watch these homicide documentaries to give me better insight to how the human psyche thinks, reasons and operates. I already possess extensive Bible knowledge through the gift of the Holy Ghost, and these documentaries adds more tools to my box of wisdom and knowledge.

  • @sunflowerz54
    @sunflowerz54 Рік тому +6

    I think getting to know the man Before you marry him and take him around your kids !! Just a thought. :(

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому +1

      Perhaps that’s a reason why Cherie (Chris’s sister) was feeling uneasy about Jackson prior to him marrying her mother Dale.

  • @sarat6723
    @sarat6723 2 роки тому +4

    Spend rest of his life in jail sick man , instead get the job or do something with his life
    Goes and destroy the life of the girls who were better then him , they were going somewhere study snd work to be someone bright girls life was taken for a sickness of a dark man - last case forensic was perfect, but cups I believe they had him and could do better but kept making mistakes.

    • @AnyCitrusTree
      @AnyCitrusTree 2 роки тому +3

      many so called 'partner' murders are actually all about the envy.. they pick the bright, the kind, the beautiful and then they hate them for fallin gfor their scam, resent them for not loving them for who they really are and for they love they had whch the killers lacked in early childhood..
      (no excuses for the deeds, but if we want to stop raising murderers we need to understand why some kids turn bad and others do not)

    • @eh-i1841
      @eh-i1841 2 роки тому

      *cops.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому

      @@AnyCitrusTree But what about the case of divorced parents who end up bringing their kids into a chaotic blended marriage

  • @christinaphillips5933
    @christinaphillips5933 Рік тому +7

    Horrible 😔 better to stay alone with your children and leave men alone v!

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому +3

      Most divorced parents tend to attract new partners who are abusive towards their children.

    • @timothyanderson2108
      @timothyanderson2108 2 місяці тому +1

      Trust me its the same for us men too

  • @marapalavra
    @marapalavra Рік тому +1

    17 years to life what the jock.

  • @richardkranium2944
    @richardkranium2944 Рік тому +1

    They must not have gotten a mortgage on the house with the body under it. An inspection is required and the inspector definitely goes in crawl spaces. I was unable to buy a house because it didn’t pass inspection due to foundation problems I would have not noticed myself at that time in my career.
    Of course now I would just fix it and have no need to get mortgages or loans.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому +1

      But that kind of inspection should’ve been made prior to the house being sold to owners Eric and Diana Carbajal.

  • @karenpool1524
    @karenpool1524 2 роки тому +8

    Shame on mom for giving her son such a step father.

    • @AnyCitrusTree
      @AnyCitrusTree 2 роки тому

      Agreed.
      But also: shame on societies where women have to stick to a monster just to keep a roof over their children's heads for lack of proper access to affordable childcare, don't you agree?
      after all, most of the crimes are committed by men, look up the statistics..
      so why do we raise our daughters in the firm belief their lives are neither complete nor worthwhile untill they tie such a murderous swine to their legs?
      (the same goes for men, of course, why do we tell our sons they need to trick an unsuspecting woman into becoming a free houshold maid/unpaid sexworker for the rest of her life?)
      read a little about what a scam 'romantic love' actually is and what purpose that buddy system really serves..

    • @samanthagomez7074
      @samanthagomez7074 2 роки тому

      Ik right Sick Monster For Real

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому

      @@AnyCitrusTreeBasically most divorced parents tend to live their lives in the fast lane.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому +1

      Shame on Dale for not standing up for Chris and her lack of responsibility could’ve gotten her daughter Cherie killed too and buried next to her brother

    • @melisentiapheiffer3034
      @melisentiapheiffer3034 Рік тому

      Was probably with the evil pig for financial reasons.

  • @DavidGooch-og9co
    @DavidGooch-og9co Рік тому +1

    😂❤on

  • @GrieseTrailCams
    @GrieseTrailCams Рік тому

    oooh ! Big filming blooper there in the first one. Can you find it?

  • @Jacqueline2279
    @Jacqueline2279 Рік тому +2

    A decaying body has a very distinctive smell. The mother had to know! That poor boy 😔

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому

      Dale (Chris’s mother) knew about it but she took Jackson’s word that it was a dead snake 🐍 (A story that she and daughter Cherie told police when they were asked about it). Everyone knew about it but when police asked Jackson about it, he denied it was ever there.

  • @gnarlykarle7763
    @gnarlykarle7763 Рік тому

    As some one who lives in Salinas, it’s very much a place of murder. New one everyday

  • @peekaboo991
    @peekaboo991 Рік тому

    It's somebody he knows
    They Knew when she'll be alone sad 😢😢

  • @mistermagnifico
    @mistermagnifico Рік тому +2

    07:32 the bullet found indicates the victim had been shot! Really?! As apposed to burying their family heirloom bullet with the body?

  • @mapachehombre1581
    @mapachehombre1581 Рік тому +1

    Second degree murder ? 17yrs for cold blooded murder 😒

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому

      That’s because the first trial ended in a hung jury. He’s still in prison today after being denied parole for the 3rd time in 2021.

  • @l7846
    @l7846 2 роки тому +1

    Ummmm. Why code 3?

  • @jamesautomajorjimmy7895
    @jamesautomajorjimmy7895 Рік тому

    It's like dead talk

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому

      Dead men do talk (the 2nd episode of the 1st season)

  • @ghoststardancer5030
    @ghoststardancer5030 Рік тому

    There’s not a spot on this globe that doesn’t have a dead body or creature occupying it. 😂

  • @rosievasquez4378
    @rosievasquez4378 Рік тому

    With the bugs and the vines ya won’t be able to tell how many years or how long ago it’s been that that person’s been dead. It’s weird that nobody ever smelled it people going by there by that road so many times in their cars or walking like that man

  • @jamesautomajorjimmy7895
    @jamesautomajorjimmy7895 Рік тому

    I play for Kenya DCI to see how. Investigation is done

  • @karencaring3356
    @karencaring3356 2 роки тому

    Why on earth would you leave barrels containing bodies out in the open? With all the storage lockers he had why not store the barrels in one of them?

    • @Lucian_Media
      @Lucian_Media 2 роки тому

      Smart people

    • @eh-i1841
      @eh-i1841 2 роки тому

      Probably someone would smell the decomposition,in the storage place.

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому

      Same with the killer on Murder by Numbers

    • @petroonajourney3503
      @petroonajourney3503 Рік тому

      This probably speaks to Robertson's self confidence that grew with each case he had gotten away with before, he never thought he was going to be found out.

  • @ccyang7039
    @ccyang7039 Рік тому +1

    The second story when 5he police said Turn and face the female officer 😅 how would he Know which way to turn? The police didn't say Lett or Right? 😂😅😂

    • @antonynkanata1834
      @antonynkanata1834 Рік тому +1

      When ten cops all but one pretty female cop checks in ua premises,draw guns en take positions any man en especially a womaniser will take note of the female cop.

    • @ccyang7039
      @ccyang7039 Рік тому

      @@antonynkanata1834 True! 💯

  • @helencook5414
    @helencook5414 Рік тому

    Lit response for a skeleton!!!!!

  • @birdyelke775
    @birdyelke775 Рік тому

    I felt bad for the mother, betrayed twice, by the man he chose to bring in her child home, and probably he lived in that house, knowing that her son was just under her, all the time. Glad, he was busted....

    • @INDLIS
      @INDLIS Рік тому

      It was Dale’s (Chris’s mother) fault for staying with that lowlife control freak in the first place. She knew Jackson had no respect for Chris or his sister Cherie but she was to naive to question why Jackson had to be such a different person when it came to his stepchildren? Cherie stated at trial that she hated Jackson from the beginning and wished her mother hadn’t married him.