We Need To Talk About MADAME WEB... | Geek Culture Explained
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Dakota Johnson was recently cast as Madame Web and the internet did what the internet does... rage! In this video, "We Need To Talk About Madame Web", I explain the Madame Web situation in the sense that two versions of Madame Web exist so this casting of Dakota Johnson isn't entirely out of left field. What do you guys think of the casting of Madame Web? Do you think Dakota Johnson is a good fit for Madame Web? Let me know down in the comments below!
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I think Dakota Johnson would have been a good Jessica Drew.
Helen Mirren would make for a good "Old" Madame Web.
Was thinking Helen also
Should have definitely been Helen Mirren
Madame Web is better suited in animation. She could be a character in the Spiderverse films.
Finally. I suggested you talk about this ten years ago!!!
bruhhh, saaammmeee
This channel wasnt around ten years ago! Lmao jp, ik what you mean.
True fan.
How do you remember this
@@Yaboi89 marvel explains😎
I’m still not sure about a standalone Madam Web film, but this is likely going to be Sony’s foot in the door to act as a way to guide their audience through the spider-verse that they’re building into. She’ll likely cross over between their live action films and animated projects they’re working on. In addition, this will be pivotal to their steps to replace Peter Parker with Miles Morales. So I’m not 100% on board yet, but I’m open to the idea as long as they do it right.
Hold up this is gonna be a stand alone movie just with her?
They can't afford to replace Peter just like they couldn't in the comics. He'll just be another Spider-Man in the world
Madam Webb enables multiversal travel and Sony needs a character to facilitate that (ie like MCU'S Dr Strange, America Chavez, etc.)
I don't think the problem is Madam Web seemingly being cast as a young woman, rather the issue is a Madam Web solo movie in the first place. Makes little sense honestly.
Completely agree with you!! Just another reason why I don't trust Sony's decision making process.....
You all say that about venom and look at it now smh
@@bradleyward361 Say what about Venom? Those movies suck. They look cool as hell but the story is all over the damn place.
Amen. She should only be featured in a movie/s. Not a standalone story.
Sony just thinks every Spider-Man character warrants a solo movie. Sounds like corporate doesn’t read comics
I always liked Madame Web in the Spiderman animated series, and I'd love to see her in the movies......but *I. DON'T. TRUST. SONY* to not screw this up 😩
It's the spider women version
Madame web is, at best, a supporting character to spider-man. I don’t care who the actress is but I don’t believe this character deserves a stand alone movie with her as the main focus, she doesn’t work without the different spider characters and she’s only useful as a sage for advice. If any female deserves her own movie, it’s Gwen Stacy.
Right?!
We don't need or want Madame Web or Spider Gwen. Want to give us more Spiderverse, really Mobius already for Christ's sake, and introduce Miles Morales live action. At least those movies, people WANT to see.
@@God_of_Calamity we do need spider gwen i'd rather have her before miles if its an only one or the other kind of situation
for Web yeah she'd be a kind of nick fury at best but they could use her to introduce all the others
@@coreyhale6660 Not more people than want to see Miles Morales, Spiderman Vs. Venom, or more Maguire/Garfield Spiderman. Even the new D+ series with the exceptions Moonknight/She Hulk/Armor Wars are heading the wrong way. You get more D+ subs giving the fans what they want, not what you feel they need or what makes the most equitable platform.
@@God_of_Calamity who is this "we" you are talking about? Speak for yourself.
Miles Morales and Madam Web's Web Warriors vs Knull The King In Black and his multiversal horde of symbiotes 😐 that's a crazy ass franchise concept, great Rob
"Twitter loves to be angry"
Truer words were never spoken Rob lol.
Shout out to Stan Lee's wife Joan for voicing Madame web🕸🕷🤘
I'm beginning to think that when Kevin Feige began this quest of Comic Book franchises that his ultimate goal in this adventure would be crossing over the MCU with the DCEU with a 30 year plan!!
They could do all of these side characters the way they did "Split" for the "Unbreakable" universe. That was compelling and well executed 4 the tone of their universe.
Just make a really good story and get ppl invested. The rest of the work does itself.
Ever since the announced Madame Web movie like f****** five years ago or whatever I couldn't wrap my head around how they possibly were going to make a solo movie about that character so your guess is as good as any I'm at this point in
I hope the movie is Carpenters origin, the passing of the mantle (so we get some classic Madame Web for a bit) and some kind of finale battle. I have no idea who the villain would be
Best I can think of is Morlun and the Inheritors
I live the face you’re making in the thumbnail.😂😂😂😂
I just finished watching the animated series from the 90's and wow, that show really ramps up in season 5.
Rob just nails that outro every time lol
Honestly, we all deserve a stand alone Spider-Man 2099 film
Great job Rob!! U killer it on that one brother
i never expected i'd hear rob shout "THEY GAVE HER LSD!". that caught me so hard. so funny
My knowledge of Madam Web is purely from the animated series. She's not really a character I needed to have.
What would Rob’s Iconic item be? Captain America has he’s shield, Wolverine has his claws, iron man ha was bucket helmet, what would Rob’s be????
I believe that Helen Mirren would make the perfect Madame Web.
Dude if it sets up Knull as the next major MCU villain I'm all for it!
Because of the Multiversal nature of the character, I wouldn't be surprised if we find out Dakota Johnson filmed some scenes for Multiverse of Madness way before this announcement, especially if they are truly wanting to set up a Web Warriors/Spiderverse story, which it definitely seems like they are.
I kinda wish all these movies would just turn into a streaming shows.
Been saying this for years
Just remake the 30min the episode tv show and use humans
That way we can get all the good villains like the Spot and an actual Hydroman
Disney having to put up with Sony.
Thanks for the video Rob! I liked the younger madam web that was in the Mattie Franklin Spider Woman run where she got hold of the power of eternal youth I think it was ? She was stuck in the wheel chair but so is professor x and they both were functional psychics. What is your take on that?
I was waiting on this since the announcement
something else that's interesting apart from the rumor mill from Sony and Marvel, is the wonderfully interesting mind of Rob. Thank you Rob for another excellent video!
Fifty shades of web
Welp, I applaud your optimism at the time of recording this
Remember Madame Web from Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions? Good times.
Perfect timing
I genuinely think Disney and Sony watch Robs videos, your giving them so much information to work with!
My boi Rob 💪🏾💎
Wow about Tom Holland's midlife crisis. I hope that if they go with a "Knull invades Earth" storyline like in King in Black, that they have built up characters like the Fantastic 4 and the Sentry. A shot of the sentry ripping apart carnage and then having Knull rip him apart will be quite shocking for audiences
That theory would be AWESOME!!
I was basically saying this today! Before watching, discussing madame webb and more of the spiderymans and the cartoon universe merging. oh very excited
I’ve been wondering a while when they were gonna play Madame Webb into a Spider-Man movie I thought she was a cool thing from the 90s animated series that they were just not touching on
This hive mind thing just had me thinking in the movies how they separated the venom symbiotie from it or basically how when the others are looking for him why not use the hive or could the venom access his on multi verse couterpart
*Talk about Knull they could be connection with Thor Love and Thunder (Gorr powers)!*
unrelated note : I would love to see black cat in the mcu
I don't care what tom holland said, he isn't done. that would be crazy, he's only been in the mcu for half the amount of time RDJ was and he was twice his age. I would be pissed if tom holland bitched out like that. he's got ten more years in him, but less than five would be a disservice to the fans. Like a slap in the face. Don't get me wrong, I can't wait for what they do with andrew garfield, tobey Maguire and miles morales etc. but we need the main spiderman too for a little while longer.
P.S.- I didn't even think of hugh! 17 years!
I just hope they dont start doing too much with the multiverse. Its very interesting to me personally but i know a bunch of more casual fans and they just get confused and think its too outlandish.
Twitter : " but but...only old people can be blind! "
jesus im so glad i havent touched that shit since like 2012
just re-wathed this episode of Madame Web looking to see if you saw the film yet. iam very anxious to heard your thoughts on it....
I think they're going real spider-verse direction. First thing I thought was they might make Madame Web into the Master Weaver or a role like that and use it to begin kicking off the inheritors and the real spider-verse, not that cheesy anime one.
Rob out here doing the Lord's work by telling people about Julia Carpenter. I grew up watching reruns of the 90's Spidey and didn't think they were gonna try to pull off Dakota Johnson as a senior citizen. That said, I don't think anyone is asking for a Madame Web solo movie. Sony has fumbled one too many times, but there's not much fans seem to be able to do about it, so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Love this channel. But I try to take your theories with a grain of salt. They sound so grandiose and exciting, but I’d be disappointed if we didn’t get something close to that. Sony seems to have taken notes in their continued partnership with Disney. To see a culmination of the spider verse would be like the turnout of Avengers end game or Spider-Man no way home.
The knull idea is great but the problem is spiderman cannot take down knull and his army if you even include a huge spiderman army
I really do hope this is Julia Carpenter. I like the fact that she was .gov agent and a 30's something single mom. She went by a couple of code names as Spider Woman and Arachne, and is now known as Madame Web, since old Madame Webb transfers her powers to Julia. Maybe this movie is Julia's origin to being Madame Web?
Marvel is shifting it's way into the mystical and supernatural and Spider-Man has some link to the magical world.
I think Madame Webb will be that link.
Makes sense to cast someone younger to play a role so they can bring them back for many years...
i maybe the only one, but i don't totally agree with you rob. like at all. a friend of mine touched on this on facebook yesterday. so what i don't want them to do is make the knull a spiderman issue when spiderman has nothing to do with knull himself per say. the story was about how eddy and venom learned and overcame him in the end. i don't want that kind of movie where it's only focused around spidermen from different realities fighting knull because that's not at all happened in the comics. rob if we take what you said and use it here's what we're missing: silver surfer getting to flex his muscles and show his powers, the overall backstory of knull and the symbiotes, eddie and his son dylan and their involvement, the other heroes being affected by knull, thor fighting knull, and finally venom getting an insane power boost and becoming the new king in black. we would sacrifice all of this, just to make a cash grab for spiderman. i dont not agree.
Madam web be spinning the web of life to my music 🕷
I think Tom Holland saying he's basically done being spiderman is a not so subtle hint that they are going to bring in miles morales as mcu's main spiderman. I think cinematicly miles will be cooler on screen
Rob there's a rumor going around that Zack Snyder is gonna direct World War Hulk. Can you put this in the Rumor Roundup please
Not happening.
It legally cannot happen, or at the very least is highly unlikely to happen, at least not for the MCU. Reason being is while Marvel does own the film rights to Hulk, Universal still has the Distribution rights, basically meaning Marvel can put Hulk in anything they want to, but if they want to make a Hulk specific movie (which World War Hulk would be) they legally have to get Universal involved in making it and putting it out there, and Marvel and Disney don't really seem interested in doing that with Universal right now, especially since they're shifting focus to She-Hulk. It's sort of the same thing with what Star Wars had, where while Disney owned Star Wars they at that time didn't own Fox, and Fox had the Distribution rights to Star Wars, so if Disney wanted to rerelease the old Star Wars in any sort of way back then Fox legally had to be involved.
To simplify, it's not likely to happen just because it would be too much of a legal headache for Marvel and Disney, and possibly a monetary headache as well. So I'd say ignore that rumor completely, unless an announcement of Universal being involved with it happens.
Casting Dakota Johnsson is like the casting Marissa Tomei as May Parker. Aunt May was portrayed in the comics as an old woman, which works fine for an adult Peter, but Tomei was great as the aunt of a teenager.
My mind went straight to totems.
Tom Holland isn’t done playing Spider-Man.. The whole point of casting a young actor is so he can play all the different phases of Peter Parker (High school, College, Adult) He still needs to crossover with X-Men and Fantastic Four too
Amazing
Morlun and the inheritors are coming lol
Yeah theres 1 Madam Web we all know and love and that's Stan Lees wife in Spiderman TAS from the 90s.
I'd like to see them do a version of Mayday Parker from the Marvel 2 comics.
Been waiting to see her in the mcu
They would have to SEVERELY Nerf Knull if they did a spiderverse movie with him cuz he's a literal god and can one shot spidey in an instant so honestly i really don't see how having a bunch of Spider-Men would help fair any better. He would easily kill or take all of them over
FINNNAAAAAALLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYY
She’s in the next Spider-Man movie and she’s also going to be the gateway as to how the Sony characters get in and out of the MCU. Sony also wants in on Secret Wars and they’re building up to Knull and he’s is also coming to the MCU.The properties of Hela’s Crown as well as Gorr’s Necrosword will all lead back to him and it will be explained. It was part of the new deal. Don’t gotta believe me just wait and see.
I like the inheriter idea.
Tom Holland said recently he wants to keep playing Peter
Is this in the MCU? Or the Sony Spider-Verse?
Fingers crossed they bring in Leopardon
Bro. Let me tell you, let me tell you.. thank you for this video.
We’re about to have like 40 spider people fighting a shit load of kangs
would be cool if they make a Disney+ show where the forces of knull go hunting a different spider each episode ending with Webb deciding to make the team
I hope she can be more a supporting character that can hold her own like a spider but that she is much like the master weaver not that she makes it but she has a connection and can have a cosmic awareness through the web of Life and Destiny eventually leading to a Spiderman that ascends to cosmic Spiderman becoming one with the Web if they don’t introduce the Enigma Force as Knulls polar opposite even if it didn’t help against the Inheritors it is the most effective counter to Knull it would also work so well if the darknesses Arishem spoke about revealing the truth would be knull in the MCU being more like the Chaos King on a multiversal scale trying to absorb everything in the multiverse back to primordial darkness with the living abyss the symbiots.
Let’s talk about this invincible Comic we’re all waiting for !!!!
For people that play MCOC. Knull! Is a beast!!!
It’s too soon for Knull. They need to build him up the way Thanos was. If not, it would seem cheap. We don’t need cheap for Knull.
I am trying to understand why every obscure character gets their own solo movie nowadays, it's like none of these producers wants their favorite character settling for being just the supporting cast.
I've always loved Julia Carpenter but i would like to see her as spiderwoman not the later stuff. I wouldn't mind the actress playing a younger cassandra Webb idk maybe go into the stuff when they introduced the spider totem and stuff.
I can imagine them to have Madame Web as Peter's new mother figure throughout the next trilogy, as the multiverse thing seems to be a big 'arc' so to speak.
With the way the MCU condenses down stories I think your idea is very credible
I honesty thought the older woman from the Fast and the Furioius, idk her name, who is Shaw's mom would of made a perfect Madame Web looks wise being an older attractive woman also due to her acting chops.
Yeah, that's Helen Mirren, one of the older ladies he suggested at 4:37 in the video.
Man, just the thought of Knull appearing cinematically has me 🤤.
Finally some madam Webb attention... I still say she was in into the spiderverse but they didn't call her it.
333rd comment! I believe the producers will want to make their own Nick Fury type of character to further the Spider-verse in live action, while also using the opportunity to remaster and simplify the character and her origin. Her chair will likely connect her to the live action Spider-verse and we'll see what they've got in store for Venom and Knul, the villain spin-offs like Morbius and Kraven, and the three known live action Spidermen universes. I bet this film will show us a live action Miles as well as Spider-Gwen played by the actress from the Amazing films.
No people are prob mad becuz they know her from the animated series.
But shes not a char that should even have her OWN movie
Jessica Alba was seen dying her hair blonde again :)
Confirmed Rob doesn’t like blind people💀😂
Tom Holland came out and said he isn't ready to stop playing spider-man but isn't sure if he is going to be in the next spider-man movie... So to say he said he is done is a falsehood sir.
I think we should get both the Inheritors & Knull that’d be dope
Do you know who should play madame web: person who played aunt may from Tobey spiderman
When did Tom say he was done playing Spider-Man?
Ive been waiting for this for years...madame web and the spiderverse was my favorite
Madame Web has significant importance in Spiderman the series is like a Watcher of the spiderverse. Hopefully the live adaptation lives up to the expectations of the fans.
Isn’t gorr the god butcher gonna be in Thor if so wouldn’t that confirm knull exists in the mcu unless they retcon Gorrs origin
I realize that this is a stupid question, because it will never happen, but how big would Sony’s Spider-Verse have to blow up before Disney would just say, “Hey Sony, I’ll trade you the entire Star Wars franchise for the whole Spider-Man universe of characters that you own. It will just make it easier for both of us. How about it?”
I realize that, as of today, Star Wars is a more valuable franchise, but how many more blockbuster movies are they getting out of Stars Wars really?
I hope we get a "venomized" MCU where each character gets a symbiote!
The Daredevil actor isn't blind and no one says a thing about it