Behringer UB-Xa Synthlegends sounds
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- Опубліковано 1 гру 2023
- This UB-Xa Demo was shot end of April 2021, when we already were testing the UB-Xa for two months. This model is Rev. 3; in the meantime I also got the improved Rev. 4, on which I reprogrammed all legendary original factory sounds. Right now there is another improved Revision, which gets in the shops. We Beta Tester always measured, discussed and got each week new Firmware Updates, also based on ideas we gave to the team. So over the last 2 years the UB-Xa improved not only with its hardware but also very much with the software. So in this Demo you get an impression of this synth in a medium stage and not final. Of course it also sounds great, so our progress was around getting the sound as close as much to the original and also get useful features inside of this really incredible synth. In this demo you can hear my programmed sounds for this synth. Other beta testers contributed also a lot of very great sounds, some of them are in another style, more classic and some also very modern. In this demo I demonstrate a lot of softer sounds and some ambient stuff but also some classic brass patches and typical 80 ies lead sounds, many arpeggios and such else. I also take use of the polyphonic aftertouch you can send to a lot of modulation sources like panning, filter, LFO, envelopes etc. This demo I recorded without any effects and no progressing at all. You just listen to a two stereo output signal. Just the pure, dry and raw synth. All sounds are from the UB-Xa expect the drums in the intro track. I am very excited that finally this synth gets to the market. You really had to wait very long, but waiting was worth, absolutely. Thanks for watching and listening, again, Cheers.
what i find amazing about this behringer project is they got so much input from beta testers, the real owners of the vintange gear, listened to them, implemented change requests. I don't see roland or the other big ones doing this. A work of love
Yes that was really exciting and also exhausting.
@@vintagesynths Thanks for your hard work! It sounds incredible.
What I find amazing is nobody from testers asked to place LED screen to the center and make characters modes per preset (not global).
Thanks for a demo without talking, fancy preamps, reverb or mastering. It sounds amazing!
Great song & superb sounds, Rüdiger! It was a real pleasure to work with you in the Beta tester team !
❤thanks Bernd, me too. Maybe soon on other projects together like Prophet 5.
I think you guys should work on the ppg
If it sounds good, it *is* good, and this sounds amazing. Oh yeah, your musical choices are pretty awesome too.
It's almost like the music and sounds have went full circle back to the early 80s, which for me who lived through it when i was young and who wanted one of those big unreachable (too expensive) analog poly synths, is a good thing,
I'll need to get one of these, the sounds coming out of this synth are superb.
Sounds solid hope we get even more reviews and demos soon.
2.08... "Jigsaw", very nice.
Yes marrillion fugazi
@vintagesynths yep. Instant recognition. One of my favorite albums. Let's have the she chameleon solo....
It would have been fun to hear same patch between obxa vs ubxa. Not everyone is in a position to do this sort of thing....
DO THIS
Sometime of course
Well, we get your point, however, what does it tell you that synth A can recreate sounds synth B produces. And frankly, if you have the budget to buy an OB Xa, you most likely arent looking to buy a Behringer.
SUBDIVISIONS!!!! 😍
Love the interface and layout, really appealing
Nice! This is definitely on my wishlist. :) Take care, Sam.
Thanks mate
Sounds so killer - I have one coming next week and I’m beyond psyched.
how do you like it so far?
As an older guy who admired everything that came from the original, I’m so happy this synth has made its way back into the modern world. All the talk about thin sounding and the like, come from people who probably didn’t make music on the original boards. We tweaked, compressed, affected the mess out of those synths! Nothing new here. If you’re a synth enthusiast and you can’t make good music with this….. you’re probably a drummer. And I love good drums!!! ❤
You are absolutely right. I also own a Jupiter 8. It really sounds not impressive, but with some delay or reverb it shines. The UB-xa really can stand a blind test. Only those who own both and have very good ears will find minor differences, maybe.
what do you do to make it sound in tune?
@@cloud0funknowing531lol! Q-Tips! 😂
I'm an older guy too. This is a fine sounding keyboard with some cool features and a true bargain, but it simply does not sound like an Oberheim OB-XA. There are countless amazing demos of the more expensive OB-X8 on UA-cam, which does succeed in capturing the original's magic tone. If Behringer is going to precisely copy the design and look of an instrument it's only fair to discuss if they have also copied the sound of the thing.
You give a nice demo, tanks. The sound sounds tin with less harmonics but good for the prise, as for all heir products....almost
Very Nice! I think they pulled it off!! Looking forward to the Neptune!!
Superb. Mine's on order.
Sounds and looks amazing!And just when I was about to buy Novation Summit this has been released…wow!Guess I’m gonna own both👍
wow-sounds GREAT!
2:39 Simply having a wonderful Christmas time
This synth will be in my hobby-studio sometime 2024 for sure !
Sounds incredible, imagine a bit of reverb and delay, wow great work thank you
WOW! THAT SOUND
Great video thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Sold!!! Sounds amazing!
This synth will become known as the "GameOverheim" and finally squeeze the nostalgia analog synth market back to realistic prices. Thank you Behringer! Still lovin' my DeepMinds.
GameOverheim *epic mic drop*
It will try, we only hope, it's been insane and I've been sitting on the sideline. I have mine pre-ordered from Sweetwater.
@@odmusicman. May I know how many days your getting it include shipping?
At this point I am told by my rep Q1 2024 for shipping. My pre-order cost w/shipping is $1,032. Can't wait. @@neilmonisit8781
Thank you for the sounds demo. Any comment on the keybed?
I’ve heard good things - not a Fatar obviously, but decent. I’ll post when mine arrives!
thank you
Thank you for posting! Wondering if it needs to be transposed down? because listening on a speaker system it sounds really harsh and brittle yet muddy at the same time but seems like lacking solid low end. From what I’m hearing this sounds nowhere near as big and smooth as my Obx8. What are your thoughts so far? Thank you
Sounds phenomenal. Great work
Thanks
I'm gonna buy one in two years. Not getting burned beta testing equipment out of my own pocket for companies again. But will definitely buy one somewhere down the road.
100%
If they come out with a table top version; I’m on it! Like it a lot. Just plan to spend some time with it, that’s all.😌🎹🎶👍🏾
3:16 this reminds me of a patch I created with my Reface CS but so much deeper and more textured ...and no weird note-snatching which the CS does on very long envelopes.
Cool video, sounds really good and that you for the use of no effects, could you make a video of the UB XA vs the OB Xa ? Same room same converter/mixer
Sometime there will be such a vid
Sold. I'm in.
Is there a 'panel mode' button to make the sound reflect front panel controls position instantly?
Hi @synthlegends - thanks for the video. If you don't mind me asking, how does the keybed feel? can you advise a similar feeling keyboard as an example. I have the Hyrdasynth and it feels very different from say the korg opsix and summit for example. I personally really like the feel of Fatar keyboards is it like that at all? thanks
I like the keyboard very much. It’s my go to keyboard for polyphonic aftertouch. I made a video with it for the OB-X8 and microwave
@@vintagesynths
Which other polyphonic aftertouch keyboards do you own, as alternatives … ?
@@kierenmoore3236 I used to have a ensoniq sampler, it was too hard and later a GEM S2. This was great. I sold it once I had the UB
I always like those meow hi-Rez filter sweeps as on 5:18 but it sounded kinda drunk / out of tune ) Did it also use LFO on pitch ? And from different videos I still couldn't understand wether ADSR envelopes on UB-XA are Ok to live with or maybe somehow slower/softer then for example on original oberheim or on OB6...
Does this synth have a 'pan spread' where each note goes somewhere new in the stereo spectrum ?
Pretty sure it has stereo VCAs under digital control (unlike the manual pan trim pots per voice on the original)
@@Wagoo so what does this mean that it can be modulated in the matrix ?
Great demo and sound thanks a lot. One question that I didn't find yet in the comments. Looking at pictures of the UB-Xa online : on the rear panel, in addition to the air flow openings left and right in the upper portion of the panel, there is a round grid next to the power socket. This can only mean that this synth has a fan. Hence my question is : how noticeable is it ? I really hope that after 6 years in the making they didn't screw up this great synth with a noisy fan. By experience the fan on some other musical instruments like for example the Yamaha A5000 sampler is really a problem but that was 25+ years ago, so I hope it doesn't feel the same. Thank you in advance for your answer.
In June, I got a Deepmind 12. It has a fan and running at 65%. It was hardly noticeable. So I imagine this has a fan, and is pretty quiet too.
Yoy can turn off the fan
Thanks. The fan is very quit and you can turn it off also
Good work 💯
Marillion! ❤
How does the keybed poly-AT feels?
Hallo einfach unglaublich 😂 sprachlos fetzt 🎉❤
That are the sounds I'm waiting for😍👍
Thanks mate
I am very curious how this stacks up sound wise to the Oberheim OB-X8. I absolutely adore my OB-X8, however the Behringer offers so many nice modern features, I have my doubts that in person it will sound as absolutely lush as the X8 does but I am curious since I know you had/have one of those as well.
The OB-X8 has the SEM included. That’s a big advantage. Here you have 16 voices, poly at and a great mod matrix.
@@vintagesynths oh so the behringer doesn't include the SEM filter?
Awesome
instant 80's vibe love it, definitely want one
Thanks a lot
Glad they didn’t make it 49 keys.
Amazing
How does it compare with the original OB-Xa or OB-X8 (build quality, sound, key bed, etc)? I had an OB-X8 for a while and liked the sounds, but it was a bit too big and limited for the cost for me in my tiny studio space. I'm hopeful Behringer will release modules of their upcoming poly synths. I'm interested in a module version of this or the potential "UB-X". Thank you for any insights you can share.
@11:27 just melted me. Couldn’t leave my car.
The patch at 2.53 👌🏼
I'm torn between the UB-Xa or the Korg Wavestate 2 for my next purchase. Both fantastic but both very different. Love the old school vibe of the UB-Xa and the modern vibe of the Wavestate 2. Due a bonus from work in a couple of weeks so that will be buying one of these.
You can also get free obxa plugins lol, moot point. Wavestate should be cheaper, honestly is a very different and unique synth, like an experimental workstation without a traditional sequencer. This ones just a good analog poly with a full keyboard. Depends what your studio needs
This thing will appreciate like an Aston Martin car. £899 now, in 2yrs it'll be worth twice that.
@@Johnnyjawboneno it won't. Behringer name attached man
@@Johnnyjawbone not sure it will. It may do for a while if there is any kind of supply shortage but once that is over I doubt it will.
@@mutablebodyGood shout on the OB-Xa plugin. I already had one which I forgot about. I do prefer hardware over VSTs though but, the VSTs may help me decide which one is more for me.
It’s December 2023 as I comment. The UB-Xa is currently tempting me as much as the Take 5 by Sequential (Circuits). Considering everything the UB-Xa is loaded with compared with Take 5, what could stop me getting one versus the other? Portability. The ability for me to carry that in one hand from one place to another without needing a private automobile is somehow a bigger priority than having triple the polyphonic notes or the polyphonic aftertouch.
Edit: I understand that it is still smaller than the original Oberheim rendition from 1981. However, it might still be a tough one to lug around.
Get the desktop version, it's coming soon. Have you seen the Pro-800 desktop $400?
It is a consideration,@@_thevaporz.
I own a Take 5, it’s great
The first 16 voice, 61keys, poly AT, extensive modulation options and stereo options analog polysynth in the world that costs less than 1333€.
Hmm yeah.. for some reason it seems to sound a bit harsh and thin compared to most of the demo's I've heard all over youtube. If I listen to Matt Johnson demoing is OB-Xa it just has that sound we all know and love in everything you do with it. It sounds warm and has a nice presence. In this demo I'm kindof looking for that sound, bit it never really clicks. Maybe it's the way it was recorded or the presets, or maybe there's something wrong with me. I'd sure love to hear an A-B comparison with the real one, which apparently is right there underrneath it.. lol.. can we have that?
I mean it's an awesome machine, especially for the asking price, and to then get a 16 voice VCO analog machine with poly aftertouch is crazy. I just really hope the sound is there :)
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I disagree with your appreciation. Actually I like this more how it sounds than the OB-X8, I find this more creamy, warm, and I disagree that it sounds thin. But I also like OB-Xa more than OB-X8. Don’t get me wrong, I like OB-X8, but I still don’t find that demo which convince me 100%.
Maybe it is a matter of tastes…
@@questforfire2023 Right, well for me to really get a sense of a synt I need to play and mess with it myself. It could be a whole different ballgame. I listened to the video again and I do hear some promising stuff in there. I guess I'll just have to try it myself one day :)
@@payt01 agreed
@@questforfire2023 This comment must be intended to keep us laughing for the rest of our lives!!!
you cant go on a youtube video and there is a plethora of sound adjustments that cant be replicated in a couple of minutes..
I ❤ Behringer
1:39 Subdivisons!
I have made all these sounds with my prophet 08
and the prophet 08 used will cost as much as this will cost new.
2:08 Jigsaw!
Sounds as good as it looks
So, mid?
not mid to me !@@thedarkestrainbow
It's a ghost! I saw his hands be transparent for a few seconds! I really like the doubling of patches. Also the fact that you can change octaves and hold down the keys is nice. That is not present on the deepminds
oh my... As a professional keyboardist, and Prince fanatic, I am salivating at this
Sweetwater is listing it at $1199
$1199
SOLD!!
awesome! I bet Tom Oberheim is so proud
Just to be clear… that’s sarcasm.
The joys of capitalism behaving exactly as designed ...not sarcasm. Patents give the inventor a head start but then it's a free-for-all to provide maximum value. I'm not a laissez-faire capitalist but it's what people keep telling me is the panacea. 🤔
@@oldunclemick patents have nothing to do with trying to take the man’s name or imitate his products trade dress… legality and morality are certainly separate concepts.
For this price they better have spent some serious time on their best keybed ever. None of their synths so far have had respectable keybeds. It sounds amazing for sure, but before dropping that much on a synth I want to know that’s up to par with others in that price range; Moog, Sequential etc as far as the keybed goes.
Yeah - Honestly though, I don't know why everyone uses the TP9S instead of the TP8S, which feels like the best keybed to me personally. TP9S is good, of course.
I don't know what Behringer uses in theirs, but it feels more akin to my Prophet 12 and Prophet 08 keybeds.
@@MIDERAit is a complete new developed poly after touch keybed, but you are right the tp8s is a dream to play
The problem is that you are expecting the quality of a keyboard that Moog, Sequential, Oberheim, Waldorf… sell for at least 3 times the price (or way more if you think about the One) on a 1300€ synth. Even if it is not “cheap”, in a relative way it is for a big poly synth.
@@vincewizz8534 I understand this… there are still Moogs and Sequentials under $1000 and the build quality is still fantastic regardless. Hell, all of Yamaha’s keybeds, even on their digital practice pianos, were fantastic. It seems that many newer keyboards have lesser keybeds these days, even on higher end synths.
@@KBizzy yes, the keyboards on my humble Yamaha Refaces feel the same as those on my DX27 and DX7 IID.
you have a real obxa there, did you buy the ubx to stack voices with the original?
I already have this in my studio.
Looks like the price of the UB-Xa has increased to £999 now. It sure has on Andertons.
After the success of the Pro 800 and Deepmind, skeptics still not willing to give this thing chance or Behringer a break. What’s the opposite of “Fanboi”? 🤔
The opposite is a hater
The magic of 16 voices: you can create a reverb effect without a reverb effect!
You could create it with envelopes even with an AJ or Poly-800...
@@vintagesynthesizers
Of course, you can do it with any polysynth with long VCA or DCA envelope release times. But the voice stealing will become apparent much more quickly than with 16 voices at your disposal.
but why would you.@@vintagesynthesizers
Think this B might be great for pads and complex textures etc but for me, it feels like there is no real sharp transient?!
If I listen to the original OBxa I always think even one voice & one osc could be easily used for bass sounds where you would usually take a solid mono synth. With that quality, pads can shine just super premium deluxe, like many monosynths connected to a huge poly, what they acually did back then.. what I hear from this behringer is actually far away from that quality. Especially when people use the arp in these videos, it sound pretty toyish to my ears, idk if its just me.. the original or many other old synths are just clicky like machineguns.
You own both, you feel the same?
Actually its something I notice with almost all newer synths that are not that pricey, lack of transients and "organic sound" only by complexity. Somehow noone is really speaking about that.
Will these be stock patches?
Maybe yes
@vintagesynths if they are it would definately be worth it. They're great
@@nelnich4445 thanks, they were in the bank b and c. Hopefully Behringer let them and didn’t oberwritet
To be honest... It sounds very thin. Even the unison sounds don't sound powerful (there are 32 Oscillators!)
I believe this video was shot before the vintage modes were implemented.
So I have a little hope for more warmth in the final synth.
DM is the same, you need it unison 2 to sound remotely like a Juno.
Why not compare the two seeing as you have an original OB-Xa sitting right there? Wouldn’t have taken much to do. Does it not compare well and you didn’t want to open the UB-Xa to criticism before it finally goes on sale?
Relax and enjoy 17 min. of nice sounds. Not everything needs to be a competition. And you could even try reading the description. Nobody needs a big shootout with a years-old revision of the Behringer.
This is from 2021, Sir.
2 or 3 versions ago
So just... imagine the tweaking they did FROM HERE
Yeah just use your immagination! LOL@@keysthomas1966
I compared the later revision D which is improved with the OB-X8 side by side. In OB-Xa mode I could hear almost no differences. Both, UB-Xa and OB-X8 are very close to the original. As you might know I made a vid ob-xa vs OB-X8.
Probably means a miracle happend in this latest revision D. Im hoping! Audio here is nowhere close to OB-X8 or OB-Xa videos (like many people notice). Not sure why you would post it
This thing is £899.99... That's insane. It's like they missed putting a 1 in front of it!
For this what you get the price is a joke
That’s outstanding 🎉 imagine how cheap the desktop will be!
Where do you see that? It's €1,350 in Thomann with delivery in 3 weeks
@@fincorrigan7139 Andertons. Behringer have slashed £300 off the RRP. If you've purchased for £1350, I would ask for the difference.
“The entire Behringer team has decided to donate their earnings and even more to the charity “Playing for Change” as they share our vision to empower less fortunate people.
We are offering the UB-Xa for a price way below the actual value. If you can, please consider donating the balance or any amount in between to the foundation, and we will double your donation up to an additional $1,000,000.
We believe there’s a musician in every human being. Our mission is to empower those who have not and cannot.”
@@fincorrigan7139Andertons
whats the preset name 4:25
Sounds like OB-Xa to me
why does the UB xa say OB xa ?
He has an actual Oberheim on the bottom there. He’s playing the Behringer
Yes. I see the Oberheim on the bottom clearly marked OB xa but if you look at the Behringer board in the top left corner it reads OB xa and not UB xa. I froze the video at a couple of points to try and be sure I wasn't seeing it wrong but the Berhinger does not read UB xa in the top left area. Was just wondering why and who made it that way. Behringer to try and disguise a prototype? synth legends maybe put a sticker on it? just curious @@KBizzy
@@1899Dan time marker? On my phone it seems always cropped below the name.
12:34 it can be seen@@oldunclemick
This is obviously an early revision of the casing when Behringer was still trying to get the rights for the Oberheim name and logo (before August of 2021).
🏴☠️
I don't think we should have heard anything about this instrument until Behringer was in production and ready to ship. I am a customer and have have many Behringer synths (Pro One, Pro 800, 2600, Odyssey, RD-8, RD-9, Poly D). Sure, we want to hear about the effort a manufacturer puts into a project, but almost no one wants to hear about what might, one day, eventually, potentially and probably will get released.
Then just ignore all news about synths until you see something new listed at your local retailer. Good things come to those that wait.. and it's valuable frankly to have some degree of input into forthcoming designs
it serves several purposes to do it this way, one being, getting feedback from people while the company can still implement the changes. Also it's good marketing. If it hurts your feelings, Behringer is very sorry about that.
I love that Behringer communicates what it's working on. It helps you appreciate the journey it has gone through, and the passion the people working on it have for making it happen. I am so very grateful that I have been able to afford to order this synth. Its sounds bring pure joy! Thank you Behringer!
Drums are too loud man, lovely sounds though!
Noticing an OBXa there too, for you to give it the approval is saying a lot. These are going to sell like crazy!
Sorry, but he UB-Xa doesn´t sound near a OB-Xa , just listen to Matt Johnson´s Video.There i can immediatly recognise the typical Oberheim Sounds that i known from so many 80´s records.
I have the Pro 800 ,that improved a lot after two firmware updates and now it sounds very much like a Prophet 600, that i used to own in the 90´s.
sounds tinny
Impressive features and price but no matter how many demos I hear I do not become friend with its sound. Too harsh and bright and far from what I expect to be fat and warm. When I hear any demo of the Arturia Polybrute I immediately love it. Seems to be a matter of taste in the end.
What would shut critics is a comparison between this and the real thing. This would prove them right or totally wrong.
For the money, it’s ok. Not the best sounding synth in the world, but the poly after touch can make it a good midi-keyboard
It sounds like an Oberheim I would say, as good as. The best sounding or not the best sounding is a subjective topic.
They really get very close. Most sounds hardly indistinguishable. The OB-Xa is just legend, but technically poor
It would still be good for twice as much.....
Frankly, it sounds no different from an Old Alpha Juno too me.
I've been watching and following the whole Behringer UB-Xa story from the beginning. Because I've owned the OBX and OB8 back in the 80's. So I bought the UB-Xa. But honestly? I bought the Novation Summit years ago when it came on the market. The UB-Xa sounds good, but doesn't come near the Summit. Not in depth, fatness, wideness, FX, Matrix Modulation and much more. The Novation Summit costed 800$ more than the current UB-Xa price, and that is the difference in quality you can hear... Sorry. Many people are blinded by the Oberheim-ness of this clone. It's a good synth, no doubt, but it is certainly is not a flagship... and not an Oberheim at all!! Sorry, but that is reality, despite look-a like and sound-a-like video's. People want to believe what they see...
Both synths are very different. The summit is, of course an insane synthesiser.
Solid, but imo lacks the gritty sound of the original. That ole fuzz...
I wanna get one but I know I'll be lowkey pissed that I have a Behringer among my other original 80s synths.. it's cool but it's not authentic
sniff more cork. you'll feel better.
I didn't hear anything even vaguely like Geddy, Eddie, or Prince--does not pass "GO."
Hmmm
Sounds thin..
Yep.
I would say it sounds very precise, all the imperfect nuances of each vintage model unfortunately can't be replicated easily by cloning a few chips here and there .
It is what it is . I like it still.
@@AdamTheAd-vanc3d 100% it sounds very controlled. Still good..... but a bit too perfect.
@@DanglyLingham BDS spotted
Well that was underwhelming to say the least…..
No comparison….😑 both in the video and existentially.
Harsh, thin and out of tune....
You should get your ears checked.
The part starting at 5:17 really sounds a bit out of tune...but that's quite possibly on purpose (pitch modulation?).
@@sauermusicDE It has different modes, one such like that....could be that, or not....no way to know sadly.
@@sauermusicDE yep, sounds deliberate to me.