Yeah more disgusting lies about friends that were like brothers and were bounded by the sacred bond of friendship in ancient t Greece, so deviates like you can feel good about their abnormality.
This is a perfect scene. These actors played their characters so well. They did manage to manifest the essence of their personalities. And they are so handsome.
@carlkirsch6949 21 minutes ago Agree. But, In the movie, Alexander and Hephaestion do not have sex. So, were homosexuals? I don't know, because there is no eyewitness history. Reply Carl Kirsch Aristotle taught both boys since age 6. He watched them grow into manhood. He never said their love for one another was physical. He said only that they were inseparable throughout their their lives. Did they love one another? Yes. Aristotle described their love as if one soul inhabited both men. They knew each the thoughts, even before they were stated. They could finish the others sentences, though respect for the other often restrained them from doing that. Both men were 32 years old when Hephaestion died. Alexander's grief was inconsolable. Grief stricken over the loss of one of the only person on earth who always told him the truth, Alexander died 8 months later.
Back in 2004,being in the closet, when he said to Hephaistion "I need you" it was like an electric shock hearing those emotions in a main stream film and from a macho actor like Colin Farrell (at the time)
At the time, especially in makedonia, it was more of a manly thing to have a gay lover, kind of like a manly thing, I'm not trying to offend homosexual people of today but they ain't like the homosexual males of today, they were very masculine, and enjoyed nothing more than being with their boys, drinking until passing out, and then going on the battlefield and spilling as much blood as possible. Thr famous theben band eas supposedly filled entirely of gay lovers, the idea being you would fight harder side by side if you were romantically involved with the person next to you, this is before Christianity, and homosexuality was almost a norm in this time, Alexanders father, the most manly man of the time, had 2 famous guys, both with the same name, in fact it isn't shown in the movie, but the dude that killed Phillip and was umm whatever that was at the wedding is based of his real life gay lover
I was never the same after this scene it's engraved to my memory with their glorious eyes and breathtaking way they call each others names what a love they carried
Man it feels so different watching this absolute legendary childhood movie after discovering Jared Leto is actually a child predator:( Rest in peace memories of better times. Truly fantastic time to be alive it was and still is in my memories but never the same anymore🥲
In my imagination, and since no one can prove me wrong, this is me watching the true Alexander and Hephaestion back in the 350s BC. Those are their real faces, their real traits, and their real conservation. The viril and sweet Alexander and the ever more sweet, handsome and always loved Hepheastion. Love is eternal
@@carlosangulo3035this is what you don’t understand - it wasn’t a war movie by any means, it was a story of a great man who happened to be a great warrior and military commander and yes he undertook the impressive conquest of Asia but it wasn’t a war movie. It was way more than that. And I love how Oliver Stone fleshed him out and how scenes like these showed his dreams, motivations and aspirations no matter if they were historically accurate or not because this is Stone’s perspective and take on Alexander. As for his sexuality, to be honest no one can know for sure about his sexual preferences so I don’t know where you take your “he was straight as an arrow” from. Don’t tell me it’s because he married three women, because that proves and means absolutely nothing (not saying he wasn’t into women just saying that it marriage is no proof of heterosexuality). One thing is sure, dude needed an heir so marriage was a must for him. But in the end, it doesn’t even matter if Alexander or Hephaestion were sexually intimate or just platonic, they were incredibly close and they deeply loved each other. There is not much known about their relationship except that Hephaestion was his closest friend and knew all his secrets. However, Alexander’s reaction after Hephaestion’s death is pretty telling. Apparently his grief was uncontrollable. He had the doctor executed And he threw himself on Hephaestion’s body and cried over him for a day till he was pried away by his companions. Afterwards he spent three days lying on the floor grieving without touching food and not caring for his appearance. In other words, dude had a complete mental breakdown. Eventually he organised a magnificent funeral for Hephaestion that cost around $250,000,000 in nowadays money and paid him countless tributes, declared mourning etc. He never appointed anyone to take Hephaestion’s place as a commander of Companion cavalry and Hephaestion’s image was always carried in front of it. He went even as far as to the oracle of Siwa in Egypt (that previously declared him as a God) if they would permit to worship Hephaestion as God which they wouldn’t but they permit that he would be worshipped as a divine hero. There is a presumption that Alexander did this in order to secure that they would find each other in afterlife (they believed that the common men went to the Underworld ruled by Hades but Divine heroes would go to the Elysian Fields). Interestingly enough, Alexander himself died shortly after receiving this answer from the oracle. I mean judging by his reaction to Hephaestion’s death, he loved him deeply (and they didn’t have to be at all intimate with each other). Aristotle is believed to have described them as “one soul in two bodies” and apparently they thought this way of themselves as well. When the mother of Darius came to beg Alexander for mercy (in the movie there is a scene with his daughter Stateira instead of his mother) and adressed Hephaestion instead, Alexander said that she was not wrong because “this man is too Alexander”. This suggest he considered Hephaestion to be his soul mate or his alter ego. Take whatever you want from this but no matter if they were homosexual, bisexual or straight, they seemed to have the closest bond possible. And Oliver Stone captured this bond and love between them masterfully.
@@carlosangulo3035 it's not war movie, there is an aspect of war yes. It's a historical fiction depicting imperial politics and personal life of Alexander
I watched this movie and never understood why it was so heavily criticized. It's far from perfect-the constant jumps between time were distracting to be sure, and there were a few historical changes that bothered me-but I find more scenes in it which I like than those which I dislike, and this one is among the best. The movie brings to life the emotions and the dreams of these people and the world in which they lived.
@@jdos5643 I mean that the constant back and forth between Alexander as a grown man leading his armies to him as his adolescence were somewhat annoying.
@@tradcathgroyper7411 i didn’t pay attention to that honestly. I thought that the best part was when Alexander tamed Bucephalus as a kid and galloped the fields with that majestic vangelis music. Loved the gardens of Babylon exquisite and beautiful I think how the movie was captured.
Most negative reviews come from the 2004 theatrical release (the homoerotic themes, historical innacuracy, the cast, the acccents etc) The Ultimate Cut version is what we need to watch, because it gives much more context
Definitely an aweinspiring, powerful, impressive and just absolutely beatiful scene. A little bit off the topic but Alexander's with his 'tendencies to 'fly high', or how it calls, an ability to see prospective things like through and through and and the aura of the 'solar deity' splendour and glory' surrounding him brings me, as strange as it souds, to think about Jim Morrison, who, at least to my knowledge, has been strongly inspired by the character of Alexander, took after him and wanted to be perceived this way. I'm not sure whether this sense of affinity between these two has been created purposely or not in the movie yet this seems me so much obvious that almost intrusive and so perceptive.
I switched on the T.V. one night and it just happened to be this scene that was on. I had no idea what film it was for a while but just knew it was so beautiful - one of the most romantic scenes I've ever seen.
Actually this is a great "love scene" as opposed to a" sex scene" (that was with Roxanne). Alexander the Great was in love with Hephaestion from the time they were boys. It was not a platonic "bromance" they had sex and were acknowledged by all his contemporaries and his mother as "eromenoi" aka lovers. Alexander had a nervous breakdown after his lover Hephaestion died. It contributed to his own death barely three month later. If you want to be educated about what same sex relationships were like in ancient times read Mary Renault's Alexander novels .BTW there was no ancient Hellene word for" gay" as we know it 2000 years later.
You say there was no word for gay 2000 years ago ? That is a new level mate. Let me tell you a fact, Bible is 2000 years old and it talks about homosexuals, sodom.
It is very moving. Imagining what it must have been like then to march in as conqueror of this great desert city of high culture with someone who knows you all too well.
This film has many Flaws,but the honest depiction of Alexander the Great as a Bisexual and Hephastion as his Love is worth Commending. I Honestly would love to see a full hbo mini series with this relationship
I'm from the future of 2024 and guys we finally got them as a couple there is a tv show called Alexander the making of a god!!! And they kiss etc, they finally show the love that these two people shared
This is why Stone's Alexander was a bit too ahead of its time. This was almost the same year Brokeback Mountains left people shock with gay cowboy romance. If this Alexander could've been released today, people wouldn't hate it that much. Just an opinion, some aspects from the Netflix Alexander is incomparable in term of budget with Stone's Alexander. I don't really like the Netflix version's of Macedonian costumes & war scenes.
@@Roadtoinferno yea totally understand that! We are in a new time now so that would explain Netflix choice of costumes etc but yea if this version was released today more people would've loved it
there are still people out there who want to deny Alexander loved Hephaestion. ignoring the fact t that when Hephaestion died Alexander went nearly crazy with grief and started to drink himself to death.
Doesn't really matter what someone thinks about Alexander and Hephaestion's relationship. It's been attested by pretty much all historical accounts that their emotional bond was very deep. Alexander mourned Hephaestion not just as a friend or a consort. He mourned him as his soulmate.
This scene makes me crave for a remake of Troy the film... My heart aches every time when I hear Brad Pitt uttering the line "Patroclus, my cousin". They should be more than that...
Greek here, for all the potential naysayers, same sex relationships in ancient Greece were, for the most part, inconsequential. They were only "bad" for the passive one in the relationship and the only thing he had to worry about was the gossip. And before some "smart guy" jumps and points to Solon's laws, these were for male prostitution, not same sex relationships.
If this were in any way accurate, I agree with his ideas, but NOT with his methodology. To unite the people of the world, for all to learn to read, write, sing, live with dignity and greatness and power and gentleness in unity...these are the goals. But he executed--pun intended--them in utterly the wrong way. You can't unite by dividing. You can't unite by force.
This is so frustrating, there is line that i don’t have in my movie version, and there is line that i have and who is not here !! Can they just give us the whole scene ? Beside, this is probably the most pure moment of love in a movie, and nobody can make me believe that is not real love lover ! ❤️
At a DVD rental store, the guy at the front desk was telling people who rented this movie that they were getting a gay porn movie because of this scene. He was quite serious when he said it, lots of passionate hate.
@@Moszan kings had so many babies , Alexander's father King Philip was executed by his ex bf and had more male c0ncubin3s . Alexander who had feminine side since his childhood was seen as a threat bcoz future kings were supposed to procreate and spread their genes as much as they could that is why his mother and Philip made him sleep with high class c@ll g1rls when he was literally a kid . Still he had no babies throughout his life only one after his death , there is proof of his relationship with Bagoas who was known for his beauty and Hephastian on the other hand was a tall handsome strong general unlike in movie , and Alexander had very intimate relationship with him , he felt open to explore his feminine side with him and was very open to him . And people still believe he was straight lmfao . His father was a red blooded warrior still he wasn't straight but bi but have to make Alexander straight who was clearly more feminine .
@@Moszan these Christians don't even know that all these events happened before Jesus even came into existence lmao . That why is in BC aka before Christ , woke is not good understand but these people throw and have thrown their own agenda
They came out of the closet they said. Farrelleto they have a deep love for each other. They were kissing on Pinterest. Both had same fatherly childhood hurts. They need each other. The love is real and genuine❤
Alexander married roxana Hephastian married a persian princess Ancient greek word for lover and best friend is the same Conclusion=they are not gay. They are Best Homies
Ik Hephastian and Alexander had wives but Alexander was bisexual he had male concubines , don't push your heteronormative agenda , i think Bagoas was his lover.
This is going to sound absolutely crazy, I’m 55, since I was a small boy I’ve had the same reoccurring dream thousands of times, where my gay lover was ripped from my arms, and tortured to death in front of my eyes, with the exact same setting and scenery as you see in this clip. I never understood it, ironically, I’m gay in real life, but part of me, despite being happily married for 35 years, desperately yearns for that ancient lover from so long ago. I don’t know if it’s a past life, I’m not sure I believe in that, but I can’t explain it. Watching this clip has me in tears, as though I was reliving the whole thing personally, as though I was there, only it wasn’t a happy ending. From the first time I had that dream when I was 4 years old, I’d wake up crying and screaming hysterically, five decades later, I still do. That person was my soulmate, that’s what I believe, I know I’m contradicting myself, because I can’t explain it or understand it. Have any of you had the same or similar experience? Please tell me I’m not alone, because when I wake up from those dreams, I feel like I’m losing my mind and I’ve lost everything that means anything to me.
Only straight women would think that this is a gay love scene. It is an antiseptisized straight "comfortable" version of a woman's fantasy about gay love.
what they said in the end was beautiful... how can you say that to just your "friend" 🤔 there are a lot of people triggered with this... I think gender fluidity is pretty normal back in the days.. unlike now.. so it's not impossible that they have romantic relationship. If Alexander and Hephaistion we're alive to day they're might already get cancelled for being gay...🤔😏🙄
It's a weird world we live in today that thinks every man who is emotional is gay and has immense love for his brothers and friends is gay. In Ancient times, men would kiss each others lips, shower naked, exercise naked and had immense brotherly love for one another but married women. Now men suppress their emotions in fear of being called gay for being affectionate and outward with their emotions because society will call you gay for doing so. We have no understanding of true brotherly or sister love anymore like people did in Ancient times
@@ottomanachiever3493 well it came from a lot of factors.. from religion, beliefs to those haters of those who goes to the other side. And men were thought not to be weak and women should be weak... so people have a hard time showing their true emotions. if only people were just free to express themselves without being criticized.
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This is the Patroclus and Achilles scene that we needed in Troy.
Yeah more disgusting lies about friends that were like brothers and were bounded by the sacred bond of friendship in ancient t Greece, so deviates like you can feel good about their abnormality.
Facts
No
@@byzer1 nice argument you decadent barbarian, truth hurts.
Romance between two male cousins is what you needed? God you're a filthy fucking degenerate
The eye candy is beyond gorgeous… blond hair/brown eyes…. Brown hair/blue eyes… the contrast is stunning.. this scene even today is epic.
This is a perfect scene. These actors played their characters so well. They did manage to manifest the essence of their personalities. And they are so handsome.
This was one of the purest representations of love in cinematic history.
This whole movie was so beautifully made. Love it. I still remember the music Roxane’s dance it brings memories and the music by vangelis
This is such a fucking lie. Its DISGUSTING and lustful
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Agree. But, In the movie, Alexander and Hephaestion do not kiss, do they? So, were homosexuals? I don't know, because there is no eyewitness history.
@carlkirsch6949
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Agree. But, In the movie, Alexander and Hephaestion do not have sex. So, were homosexuals? I don't know, because there is no eyewitness history.
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Carl Kirsch
Aristotle taught both boys since age 6. He watched them grow into manhood. He never said their love for one another was physical. He said only that they were inseparable throughout their their lives. Did they love one another? Yes. Aristotle described their love as if one soul inhabited both men.
They knew each the thoughts, even before they were stated. They could finish the others sentences, though respect for the other often restrained them from doing that.
Both men were 32 years old when Hephaestion died. Alexander's grief was inconsolable. Grief stricken over the loss of one of the only person on earth who always told him the truth, Alexander died 8 months later.
Back in 2004,being in the closet, when he said to Hephaistion "I need you" it was like an electric shock hearing those emotions in a main stream film and from a macho actor like Colin Farrell (at the time)
Totally relate, 100 percent since I was also closeted in 2004 when I saw this movie
Shoulda stayed that shit made me sick
At the time, especially in makedonia, it was more of a manly thing to have a gay lover, kind of like a manly thing, I'm not trying to offend homosexual people of today but they ain't like the homosexual males of today, they were very masculine, and enjoyed nothing more than being with their boys, drinking until passing out, and then going on the battlefield and spilling as much blood as possible. Thr famous theben band eas supposedly filled entirely of gay lovers, the idea being you would fight harder side by side if you were romantically involved with the person next to you, this is before Christianity, and homosexuality was almost a norm in this time, Alexanders father, the most manly man of the time, had 2 famous guys, both with the same name, in fact it isn't shown in the movie, but the dude that killed Phillip and was umm whatever that was at the wedding is based of his real life gay lover
I was never the same after this scene it's engraved to my memory with their glorious eyes and breathtaking way they call each others names what a love they carried
I don’t know who you are friend but I feel the same way. Also WangXian forever.🙏🏼❤️
Man it feels so different watching this absolute legendary childhood movie after discovering Jared Leto is actually a child predator:( Rest in peace memories of better times. Truly fantastic time to be alive it was and still is in my memories but never the same anymore🥲
THEY REALLY HAD TO GO TEARING APART MY HEART IN MENTIONING THEMSELVES AS ACHILLES AND PATROCLUS
I know right seriously. I feel the same
This is a fantastic scene. Written beautifully and acted so well. Some parts of this film were weak but these moments are magical.
In my imagination, and since no one can prove me wrong, this is me watching the true Alexander and Hephaestion back in the 350s BC. Those are their real faces, their real traits, and their real conservation. The viril and sweet Alexander and the ever more sweet, handsome and always loved Hepheastion. Love is eternal
exactly
My heart just melted, im in love with this scene
Mmmm
This is a war mivie not a love story lady,this never happened alexander was straighter than a arrow
@@carlosangulo3035this is what you don’t understand - it wasn’t a war movie by any means, it was a story of a great man who happened to be a great warrior and military commander and yes he undertook the impressive conquest of Asia but it wasn’t a war movie. It was way more than that. And I love how Oliver Stone fleshed him out and how scenes like these showed his dreams, motivations and aspirations no matter if they were historically accurate or not because this is Stone’s perspective and take on Alexander.
As for his sexuality, to be honest no one can know for sure about his sexual preferences so I don’t know where you take your “he was straight as an arrow” from. Don’t tell me it’s because he married three women, because that proves and means absolutely nothing (not saying he wasn’t into women just saying that it marriage is no proof of heterosexuality). One thing is sure, dude needed an heir so marriage was a must for him.
But in the end, it doesn’t even matter if Alexander or Hephaestion were sexually intimate or just platonic, they were incredibly close and they deeply loved each other. There is not much known about their relationship except that Hephaestion was his closest friend and knew all his secrets. However, Alexander’s reaction after Hephaestion’s death is pretty telling. Apparently his grief was uncontrollable. He had the doctor executed And he threw himself on Hephaestion’s body and cried over him for a day till he was pried away by his companions. Afterwards he spent three days lying on the floor grieving without touching food and not caring for his appearance. In other words, dude had a complete mental breakdown. Eventually he organised a magnificent funeral for Hephaestion that cost around $250,000,000 in nowadays money and paid him countless tributes, declared mourning etc. He never appointed anyone to take Hephaestion’s place as a commander of Companion cavalry and Hephaestion’s image was always carried in front of it. He went even as far as to the oracle of Siwa in Egypt (that previously declared him as a God) if they would permit to worship Hephaestion as God which they wouldn’t but they permit that he would be worshipped as a divine hero. There is a presumption that Alexander did this in order to secure that they would find each other in afterlife (they believed that the common men went to the Underworld ruled by Hades but Divine heroes would go to the Elysian Fields). Interestingly enough, Alexander himself died shortly after receiving this answer from the oracle. I mean judging by his reaction to Hephaestion’s death, he loved him deeply (and they didn’t have to be at all intimate with each other). Aristotle is believed to have described them as “one soul in two bodies” and apparently they thought this way of themselves as well. When the mother of Darius came to beg Alexander for mercy (in the movie there is a scene with his daughter Stateira instead of his mother) and adressed Hephaestion instead, Alexander said that she was not wrong because “this man is too Alexander”. This suggest he considered Hephaestion to be his soul mate or his alter ego. Take whatever you want from this but no matter if they were homosexual, bisexual or straight, they seemed to have the closest bond possible. And Oliver Stone captured this bond and love between them masterfully.
@@blackmamba6046That was such a heartfelt quasi essay. You said it all brilliantly and beautifully 🥺
@@carlosangulo3035 it's not war movie, there is an aspect of war yes. It's a historical fiction depicting imperial politics and personal life of Alexander
I watched this movie and never understood why it was so heavily criticized. It's far from perfect-the constant jumps between time were distracting to be sure, and there were a few historical changes that bothered me-but I find more scenes in it which I like than those which I dislike, and this one is among the best. The movie brings to life the emotions and the dreams of these people and the world in which they lived.
This movie is a masterpiece. Beautifully made. I did not find any scenes that were skipped.
@@jdos5643 I mean that the constant back and forth between Alexander as a grown man leading his armies to him as his adolescence were somewhat annoying.
@@tradcathgroyper7411 i didn’t pay attention to that honestly. I thought that the best part was when Alexander tamed Bucephalus as a kid and galloped the fields with that majestic vangelis music. Loved the gardens of Babylon exquisite and beautiful I think how the movie was captured.
Most negative reviews come from the 2004 theatrical release (the homoerotic themes, historical innacuracy, the cast, the acccents etc) The Ultimate Cut version is what we need to watch, because it gives much more context
@@tradcathgroyper7411 I kinda agree with this. The timeline jumps is indeed a bit annoying, especially for those who watch it the first time.
Jared Leto is sooooo beautiful *_*
❤
“You never lose me, I will be with you, always til the end”.❤ I use these words with my boyfriend, because It’s my promise. And I will never break it.
This scene can be interprete as friends love, brothers love and even lovers together at the same time!
Historically they were lovers.
@@Erin-Thor there is still a debate tho
@@zeff8820 - Of course, many still swear Rock Hudson was heterosexual as well.
@@zeff8820….Not really…. Lol
@@Erin-Thor actually no historically they were never mentioned as lovers in any reliable source
If only this movie was made 10 years later. We could have gotten more than a chaste hug. That’s how you hug your big brother, not the man you love 😂
I think that's what made this scene so painfully beautiful. So much longing and love expressed through words and eyes and body language 🥰
And they wouldn't have reacted the way they did in Greece lol
Broke back Mountain was literally released a year after.
@@mrpontyboi and it was mocked by most people
Alexander literally made out with a guy in this movie tho
I love hephaestions robe. . its gorgeous. This scene was absolutely perfect.
Definitely an aweinspiring, powerful, impressive and just absolutely beatiful scene. A little bit off the topic but Alexander's with his 'tendencies to 'fly high', or how it calls, an ability to see prospective things like through and through and and the aura of the 'solar deity' splendour and glory' surrounding him brings me, as strange as it souds, to think about Jim Morrison, who, at least to my knowledge, has been strongly inspired by the character of Alexander, took after him and wanted to be perceived this way. I'm not sure whether this sense of affinity between these two has been created purposely or not in the movie yet this seems me so much obvious that almost intrusive and so perceptive.
No it is not only from the movie. Jim Morrison was openly inspired by Alexander also for his look and haircut
Lmao shut up
Jim Morrison later became Rush Limbaugh.
I've never seen this movie, but the love between these two is beautiful 💜
A must -see! You’ll love it!
I love your photo's profile it's Hayley ♡
Apparently its fake lol
One of the most beautiful of all love scenes, superbly brought to life by Mssrs. Farrell, Leto, Stone, and Vangelis.
Jared looked like a God here, i loved this movie and their love was great
Alexander’s mother knew him so well, if he would have married a Greek woman, Haephastion wouldn’t have been poisoned
Never thought of this but I agree.
Such a touching love scene. Thank you for posting this here.
"wont this smiles you?"
"All this gold couldn't bring my father back..."
❤Gorgeous, gorgeous, beautiful people❤ Two legends❤love from Finland❤❤❤
I love Alexander ❤
I switched on the T.V. one night and it just happened to be this scene that was on. I had no idea what film it was for a while but just knew it was so beautiful - one of the most romantic scenes I've ever seen.
The best love scene in the world
You just can't get enough gay love scenes can you?
xDDD Velvet Goldmine and Brokeback Mountain and Alexander xDD
Amazing...I just can't imagine how you will end up... :/ lol
You do know this was rape right? She never agreed to this. ANd he did this right after killing her husband.
disgusting
Actually this is a great "love scene" as opposed to a" sex scene" (that was with Roxanne). Alexander the Great was in love with Hephaestion from the time they were boys. It was not a platonic "bromance" they had sex and were acknowledged by all his contemporaries and his mother as "eromenoi" aka lovers. Alexander had a nervous breakdown after his lover Hephaestion died. It contributed to his own death barely three month later. If you want to be educated about what same sex relationships were like in ancient times read Mary Renault's Alexander novels .BTW there was no ancient Hellene word for" gay" as we know it 2000 years later.
all ancient greeks uded to believe it was a great honour to worship a man's body first...before they make family....the male body was a blessing
You say there was no word for gay 2000 years ago ?
That is a new level mate.
Let me tell you a fact, Bible is 2000 years old and it talks about homosexuals, sodom.
"SheElohim yevarach otha Oshit
il magnifique
It is very moving. Imagining what it must have been like then to march in as conqueror of this great desert city of high culture with someone who knows you all too well.
Leto's perfomance here is a much needed detox from his overacting in "Suicide Squad" and "House of Gucci" 😆
God want to see them together again
0:52 this just this love it so much
History would say they were really good friends
This film has many Flaws,but the honest depiction of Alexander the Great as a Bisexual and Hephastion as his Love is worth Commending.
I Honestly would love to see a full hbo mini series with this relationship
No he was mostly gay , he was into women just bcoz he was the king
@@gaygachad8305 If he was gay he would not get turned on by women.
Of all the actors who have played Hephaestion, Jared Leto is the most perfect!
He swore by Aphrodite, the goddess of love and beauty
I'm from the future of 2024 and guys we finally got them as a couple there is a tv show called Alexander the making of a god!!! And they kiss etc, they finally show the love that these two people shared
GOOD you gave that info!!! (Some bitter commentators here need to see that!).
@@mikaelb7735 haha I just love that the haters can't say crap now😭😭😂🙌🏽🙌🏽
SO right you (we) are. Keep well!!@@roshafam3477
This is why Stone's Alexander was a bit too ahead of its time. This was almost the same year Brokeback Mountains left people shock with gay cowboy romance. If this Alexander could've been released today, people wouldn't hate it that much.
Just an opinion, some aspects from the Netflix Alexander is incomparable in term of budget with Stone's Alexander. I don't really like the Netflix version's of Macedonian costumes & war scenes.
@@Roadtoinferno yea totally understand that! We are in a new time now so that would explain Netflix choice of costumes etc but yea if this version was released today more people would've loved it
Soulmates aren't just lover's newbie friends are yet reading this learning
Amazing and agreed on the most beautiful love scene!
Just Beautiful ...
there are still people out there who want to deny Alexander loved Hephaestion. ignoring the fact t that when Hephaestion died Alexander went nearly crazy with grief and started to drink himself to death.
THE MOST BEAUTIFUL LOVE SCENE... SO MUCH GLORY!
Doesn't really matter what someone thinks about Alexander and Hephaestion's relationship. It's been attested by pretty much all historical accounts that their emotional bond was very deep. Alexander mourned Hephaestion not just as a friend or a consort. He mourned him as his soulmate.
Such a beautiful video. I cryed really hard 'cuz even more beautiful makes it the reality of that story!
Jared Leto ❤ always perfect!
Historians: and they were roommates
Us: tHeY WeRe RoOmAtEs
How they made this movie back in 2004
Their action: 💪🏻🗡️⚔️ 🦅
Their words: 🏳️🌈💞👨🏼🤝👨🏻👨🏼❤️💋👨🏽
This is too perfect ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
I'm so proud to call myself Greek
This is soooo beautiful and real !
This scene makes me crave for a remake of Troy the film... My heart aches every time when I hear Brad Pitt uttering the line "Patroclus, my cousin". They should be more than that...
This was such a sad and beautiful love story
I agree. Mr Stone was at least 10 years ahead on marriage equality :)
Greek here, for all the potential naysayers, same sex relationships in ancient Greece were, for the most part, inconsequential.
They were only "bad" for the passive one in the relationship and the only thing he had to worry about was the gossip.
And before some "smart guy" jumps and points to Solon's laws, these were for male prostitution, not same sex relationships.
THE MOST BEAUTIFUL LOVE SCENE IN THE WORLD
Remember people this was in the ancient days and there no Christianity or No Laws on Homosexuality's. He born in July 356 BCE
Esse filme é hépico... porém mais hépico são os olhos de Jared Leto,oh homem lindo pai amado❤
So sweet!
I like very much this beautiful secne
If this were in any way accurate, I agree with his ideas, but NOT with his methodology. To unite the people of the world, for all to learn to read, write, sing, live with dignity and greatness and power and gentleness in unity...these are the goals. But he executed--pun intended--them in utterly the wrong way. You can't unite by dividing. You can't unite by force.
Beautiful
Ahh such good friends
Woefully blind….. lol
I'm not woke but I love this scene
Being woke has nothing to do with this.
@@Moszan Supporting gays is woke kid. Get used to that fact. Support for same sex relations is dropping.
All these stupid ppl call everything woke these days, gays have always existed
@@kulio1214 you pull up on gay romance scene on YT just to talk shit. In the closet much
Hugs but no kisses??! Nice eye shadow, boyz! Two Canucks in Mexico 😊
This is so frustrating, there is line that i don’t have in my movie version, and there is line that i have and who is not here !! Can they just give us the whole scene ?
Beside, this is probably the most pure moment of love in a movie, and nobody can make me believe that is not real love lover ! ❤️
We need a remake but this time show this love the way it deserve
I AGREE
Excellent
I wished they had kissed so much instead.
At a DVD rental store, the guy at the front desk was telling people who rented this movie that they were getting a gay porn movie because of this scene. He was quite serious when he said it, lots of passionate hate.
Kirli kalpli...😊
I’ve always wanted to find the European version of Troy as it reportedly contains an actual love scene of them. 😎
Woooowww❤❤❤❤
Omg I'm crying
Essa parte que eu mas gosto,declaração de amor.lindo❤❤❤❤
Bana inanan genc generaller var oldugu muddetce😊
Well said and spotted.
So great love
Joker and penguin
Omg why do people have to try and gayify everything? Love isn't always romantic or sexual. It can be a strong love just as a friendship.
Alexander was gay u don't know anything
Yall have to straight ish men everywhere
Sure, love can be neither romantic nor sexual. However, do keep that same energy for heteronormativity.
@@Moszan kings had so many babies , Alexander's father King Philip was executed by his ex bf and had more male c0ncubin3s .
Alexander who had feminine side since his childhood was seen as a threat bcoz future kings were supposed to procreate and spread their genes as much as they could that is why his mother and Philip made him sleep with high class c@ll g1rls when he was literally a kid .
Still he had no babies throughout his life only one after his death , there is proof of his relationship with Bagoas who was known for his beauty and
Hephastian on the other hand was a tall handsome strong general unlike in movie , and Alexander had very intimate relationship with him , he felt open to explore his feminine side with him and was very open to him .
And people still believe he was straight lmfao .
His father was a red blooded warrior still he wasn't straight but bi but have to make Alexander straight who was clearly more feminine .
@@Moszan these Christians don't even know that all these events happened before Jesus even came into existence lmao .
That why is in BC aka before Christ , woke is not good understand but these people throw and have thrown their own agenda
Movie so underrated
2:24 to free the people of the world that has covid
DCAT Dareshni was here lolz ;)
Great love. Forever. ❤️💗💖
It looks like a beautiful scene. Too bad the video volume is so low that we can't hear the dialogue... and no closed captioning. 😕
Джарет ❤
"It is you I love Hephaestion, no other." Just how gay can you get without making this gay? Because to me, that is Achilles and Pratroclus kinda gay
They came out of the closet they said. Farrelleto they have a deep love for each other. They were kissing on Pinterest. Both had same fatherly childhood hurts. They need each other. The love is real and genuine❤
Ridley scott should have done this movie
Burda saadece kuklarar polisler ve askerler var😊
well that happened comleptly trying to flip at how cute that was yet still e=very confused
Alexander married roxana
Hephastian married a persian princess
Ancient greek word for lover and best friend is the same
Conclusion=they are not gay. They are Best Homies
Ik Hephastian and Alexander had wives but Alexander was bisexual he had male concubines , don't push your heteronormative agenda , i think Bagoas was his lover.
Is that.... Jared Leto?
GimmeBubbleGum he is lol
GimmeBubbleGum no
@@nothingtoospiffy7913 Yes it is.
@@Moonewitch no it's not
Ben her seyimi seviyorum😊
Zack snyder wants to make a movie about alexander the great and hephaestions love story
...no shade...but good luck to him...
I'd personally prefer to see a film about Achilles and Patroclus instead, but I doubt people would like that one
Yaslilar cok sey...😊
Looking for the “it’s morbin’ time” meme right now.
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This is going to sound absolutely crazy, I’m 55, since I was a small boy I’ve had the same reoccurring dream thousands of times, where my gay lover was ripped from my arms, and tortured to death in front of my eyes, with the exact same setting and scenery as you see in this clip. I never understood it, ironically, I’m gay in real life, but part of me, despite being happily married for 35 years, desperately yearns for that ancient lover from so long ago. I don’t know if it’s a past life, I’m not sure I believe in that, but I can’t explain it. Watching this clip has me in tears, as though I was reliving the whole thing personally, as though I was there, only it wasn’t a happy ending. From the first time I had that dream when I was 4 years old, I’d wake up crying and screaming hysterically, five decades later, I still do. That person was my soulmate, that’s what I believe, I know I’m contradicting myself, because I can’t explain it or understand it. Have any of you had the same or similar experience? Please tell me I’m not alone, because when I wake up from those dreams, I feel like I’m losing my mind and I’ve lost everything that means anything to me.
Avrupada benden baska asker yok su an😊
Only straight women would think that this is a gay love scene. It is an antiseptisized straight "comfortable" version of a woman's fantasy about gay love.
what they said in the end was beautiful... how can you say that to just your "friend" 🤔 there are a lot of people triggered with this... I think gender fluidity is pretty normal back in the days.. unlike now.. so it's not impossible that they have romantic relationship. If Alexander and Hephaistion we're alive to day they're might already get cancelled for being gay...🤔😏🙄
It's a weird world we live in today that thinks every man who is emotional is gay and has immense love for his brothers and friends is gay. In Ancient times, men would kiss each others lips, shower naked, exercise naked and had immense brotherly love for one another but married women. Now men suppress their emotions in fear of being called gay for being affectionate and outward with their emotions because society will call you gay for doing so. We have no understanding of true brotherly or sister love anymore like people did in Ancient times
@@ottomanachiever3493 well it came from a lot of factors.. from religion, beliefs to those haters of those who goes to the other side. And men were thought not to be weak and women should be weak... so people have a hard time showing their true emotions. if only people were just free to express themselves without being criticized.
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I’m so in ❤️