Original 1983 Footage will RUIN Yoda for you…
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Star Wars: Return of the Jedi | Yoda's Alternate Death (Deleted Scene)
In this Star Wars Episode VI Deleted Scene, Yoda would have revealed a critical piece of information right before his death... Why was this cut?!
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Yoda is all knowing, he is 900yrs old!
@@zaklowry5791 I mean he didn’t realize Palpatine was the Sith Lord so… his judgement is definitely still clouded by the dark side
Dude how did u find that Yoda clip, you're channel is so full of interesting tid bits I never knew of ,this is my go to place ,great job ,keep the info coming,ty keep up the great work
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It's a shame that we never saw yoda fight in the original trilogy, it was planned, but then they realized that making a puppet fight would be too difficult, anyway i hope for a cameo of Joda in the kenobi series.
The reason for not telling Luke was still there when Yoda says “not ready for the burden…” also it was implied that they had together agreed to protect Luke from the terrible truth.
Having Yoda control Kenobi is too similar to the Sith where palpatine controls what Vader can and cannot do. Also Jedi don’t follow orders when they know what the right thing to do is different.
Instead both yoda and Kenobi have their own agency and both choose to protect Luke because they both know it’s the right thing to do.
Not true. The Jedi Council gives implicit instructions and expects them to be followed. Yoda was the Grand Master of the Jedi Council. He led the council. Obi-Wan would have continued to view him as such and would have obeyed his Master's instructions.
Or we could just acknowledge the truth - that Lucas later decided to make Vader Luke's father, and so what Ben told Luke had to be retconned.
@@Malt454 It wasn't really retconned. It was always the truth- from a certain point of view.
@@alliesoapway1076 - Just like Solo "returned fire" on Greedo. There are no mistakes in Star Wars... only "things that some people don't understand".
@@alliesoapway1076 100% retconned, similar to leia being Luke’s sister - that was never originally intended (they even had that infamous kissing scene). Lucas changed his mind over a lot of Star Wars lore
"I can't kill my own father."
I've always assumed that was *why* they never said it.
They probably figured that Luke would have to kill *both* Vader and Palpatine, somehow...
Had Luke found out after killing Vader and palpatine it would have definitely turned him to the dark side. I think they wanted to tell him once he had the perception of a Jedi.
Somehow and Palpatine in the same sentence and yet its not cursed.
Yes it would have been nice to know Obi-Wan wasn't being heartless but I always suspected something like this. That's also why they split the twins up, to reduce the chance they would both be found and converted by Palpatine.
That would have been really good if they had kept Yoda’s dialogue from this in in the final cut. Nice to see it here.
It may not be included but it’s canon in my eyes
Yoda has always has been my favorite and I always thought there should have been more that he needed to tell Luke before he died like something was missing. Glad to know I was right and it was just edited out. Thanks for the content.
I always agreed with Obi's decision not to tell him he wasn't ready for that info in New hope.
That he didn't tell Luke is not the problem. That he acted in such a manipulative a$$hole way like a lying schmuck when called out on it is the issue. You ask yourself, "If he seemingly had no trouble doing THIS, what OTHER manipulative lies has he spewed out? How can he be trusted at this point? Is this how a Jedi behaves?".
but not telling Luke that Anakin became Darth Vader made it all the more painful for luke when he found out in The Empire Strikes Back
@@CsRj2854 what crap you chattin he was perfectly fine and have no issues with kenobi lol
I can’t wait for the kenobi series. There is literally so much potential for many awesome ideas and scenes that can happen and i think it’s going to be an epic addition to Star Wars
I think it’s going to be Disney+ most successful series yet. If they thought the Mandalorian pulled in a lot of new customers just wait for Obi Wan.
I completely forgot about the Kenobi series. There's a lot of potential for this series and Book of Fett. I think both of them will be as highly popular as The Mandolorian, if not more. Kenobi and Fett are my favorite characters, so I have hope for each series. I know the Mandolorian got myself and others hooked to Disney+. These next two will bring in more folks and hopefully bring balance to the fandom.
If I'm not mistaken, isn't the show supposed to follow Obi Wan after he left Luke to his "uncle" on Tatooine?
@@johnvermette9466 yes, many adventures to be had in the jundland wastes are a wild and dangerous place
Disney will find a way of destroying it
That deleted scene almost gives the whole movie a new meaning.
no it doesnt
I liked your story about how you refused to watch ROTJ because you heard that Yoda died and had to get coached into watching it by your Dad. I think a lot of Star Wars fans have fun and interesting memories from their childhood like this that we take with us for the rest of our lives.
This is very very true. So many of us are so passionate about Star Wars because of how nostalgic it is for us… thanks for the support!
@@StarWarsAnalyst Absolutely, your channel is great! You're always finding new and interesting things that I didn't even know of and I'm a huge Star Wars guy. It's always nice to see fun and positive new content like this.
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@@StarWarsAnalyst Of Course 😊
Did you mean 'coaxed' rather than 'coached'?
It was really cool to see this deleted scene. You are right about how Yoda's dialog regarding Luke being told Vader was his father should have been left in the movie.
I've always wondered how Luke would have reacted if Yoda had told him about Leia then... But, seeing and living under the Empire's rule all his life, he knew (or perhaps thought) that he was the galaxy's last hope and would have stayed focused, or would he have followed the dark side... For myself, I've always perceived Luke as being truly a Grey Jedi , just like Qui Gon Jin was . Loved your analysis of this question. I hope we'll have some answers in the Kenobi serie
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I think what George Lucas wanted to point out is that we are all capable of crossing both lines, that none of us are perfect. But in the end, to those who choose to walk in the light, good things are bound to come. Victory. Triumph.
That would have been such a game changer in the trilogy that I believe Luke would have faced Vader in a different way. Not to save his father but to destroy him and the Emperor to redeem Yoda. Love this deleted clip. Hope there is so much more.
Hope to win this Yoda sword to carry on the Jedi tradition
Redeem Yoda?
The only one in need of redeeming is Yoda, if only he listened to Anakin
When I first saw this as a young child, I lost a lot of respect for Obi Wan when I found out that he’d lied about Anakin/Vader. For me back then, being a liar was one of the worst things you could be, so how could Obi Wan have been good if he was a liar? Amazing how a child’s mind works, isn’t it?
"Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is." - Yoda
Because Luke wouldn't have wanted to learn to become a Jedi
I think I was either 12 or 14 when I saw ROTJ. I didn't loose any respect for Obi-Wan at all. When he said Darth Vader killed his father he was actually right in a twisted sort of way. Also I understood why he didn't tell him the complete truth also, it was to protect him. If he would've known the truth at a young age Vader would've seeked him out.
He,did that to protect Luke remember he said certain point of view,he was remembering Ankin as he was before turning to the dark side he made a clear distinction between Vader and Ankin in how he told Luke the story .
but what he told Luke was true...... from a certain point of view......
The explanation you gave on why Yoda forbid obi wan to not reveal the whole story to luke about his father was spot on.
I know if I found out my pop was one of the best and most powerful jedi/war hero, and he was alive, I for sure would of dropped everything and ran off to locate him.
And in the case of luke the jedi would be no more if obi wan prematurely spilled the beans to luke. Cause i 100% agree that Sidius and Vader would of trained luke in the sith way. And it would of been handed to them on a silver platter.
And it might have been hard for a young man to learn that his father was evil. It brings up questions of destiny that Luke shouldn't have to bear.
Great video. It would have been nice to see that line in the final cut, or at least in the Special Edition, but it really wouldn't change much for me. Even as a kid, I understood that Kenobi was holding back info due to a bigger plan for the fall of the Sith. Plus, it inferred that Luke had to understand that a Jedi must act carefully due to different ways of understanding a situation. Again, great find with that dialogue
I always thought it odd that Ahsoka, Obi-wan, and Padme, failed to comprehend how vulnerable Anakin might be to the Darkside. All the clues were there, and Darth Maul and Dooku even talked about the plot. Yoda seemed to foresee the errors of the Jedi Council and decided to let the plot play out; he certainly sensed what was going on after his encounter with the Whills. So it is not surprising that he resorted to deception to prevent Luke from thinking Anakin was still alive and could simply be talked out of the grip the Darkside had on him. When Ahsoka realized Anakinn was alive, she was lucky to have survived her compassion for Anakin. Obi-wan is going to discover in the new series that he can't access Anakin either. Yoda seemed to be preparing Luke to find the strength to defeat Vader and not strike out at Palpatine in anger. This was a clever play by Yoda to train up Luke this way. It always seemed like his training left him unprepared, but obviously by design. Luke knew just enough to get the job done, and then harmonize some of light and dark to avoid the mistakes the Jedi Council had made.
I think Padme didn't really understand the whole light-dark side thing, but the other two just didn't want to believe their brother could ever fall to the dark side, let alone be so entrenched so quickly.
I have watched the Star Wars movies for all of my life. That little tidbit was something I had only guest at. Thanks.
I think something that we are learning from today's movies that make them a little better is that things are not always black and white, that there are some gray areas.
I think that it would've been cool to see Luke struggle more with the dark side, to find justifications for going dark and come back to the light. Some of this stuff is just glossed over too quickly for the sake of time.
Truly enjoyed learning about that deleted scene. Always interested in seeing what doesn’t make the final cut of movies. Especially Star Wars. That seems to me that that would’ve been an important enough scene to leave in
That’s actually awesome that you found that. Can’t believe there’s more that we haven’t seen. Keep up the great videos bro!
I appreciate you taking the time to post these videos! They are awesome and extremely entertaining! Looking forward to seeing your new ones as they come out. May the Force be with you!!!
Thank you for the support! I’m glad you enjoy
Thanks so much for the adding footage. It changes much of my train of thought.
Awesome video!! This would have changed my perception of Obi-Wan.. although I always knew their was a purpose for him not divulging that information to Luke, this would have made it clear to the character himself, not just the viewer.
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That was very interesting and yeah, it could have considerably changed the way many of us ended up viewing Kenobi. What made George remove such an important line of dialogue from the finished cut? It's not as if it would have affected the run time.
Great deleted scene. Great analysis. Thank you.
May The Force be with us always.
When I first saw return of the jedi my mom took me out of school so her and I could see it together on opening day, since then Luke's green lightsaber instantly became my favorite.,Darth Vader is the best.
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Would have changed some people's views for sure but Yoda knew what he was doing and Obi-Wan had to of been convinced of the same and why Luke followed same path with Rey
"... had to have", not "... had to of"
I just found your channel and really found this video very interesting. I was seven years old when a New Hope was released in 1977 and I’ve been hooked ever since. I am absolutely looking forward to the Obi-Wan Kenobi series.
More to come 😎 glad you enjoyed
My little green friend was out of his league ahahaha
It was the most informative best deleted scene I've seen in a long time keep up the good work and PS you know how to wield that lightsaber alright
Thanks for the support I’m glad you enjoyed 😎 and yeah I actually have been training in martial arts for over 10 years. I have a black belt in both Shorin-Ryu as well as Chun Kuk Do. My specialty isn’t the sword though it’s the bo staff… this is me at a tournament a few years ago ua-cam.com/video/Cj_x3UrYkMI/v-deo.html
As Yoda being the wisest of all jedi masters, all his decisions worked out how he hoped. What I think is interesting though is I wonder if Yoda really did have such a knowledge of the force that he predicted everything even the final destruction of the emperor and the end of the final order on the sith home world, or was is just destiny that the will of the force was to prevail over the darkside..
Remember how he warned palpatine that his faith in his new apprentice was misplaced? As painful as Anakin’s turn was, yoda knew he’d eventually turn back.
So Yoda could see that Vader destroyed the Emperor, but really didn't destroy him since the Emperor would be cloned and have his essence enter........I'm tired.
I like the way you explained why obi had not tell all and the missing clip your showing explains why. Nice job I really in joyed
New to your channel. I really enjoyed this deleted scene and how it impacts the series. Thank you for posting.
Idk man, I kinda think it's perfect just the way it is. But seeing Yoda train Luke with a lighsaber, that would most definitely be dope af!
Thanx for breaking everything down for us Star Wars nerds!👍
Love the fact that you are doing these.
I love seeing these behind the scenes and deleted scenes material as I like the “HOW” of how they did it back then versus how films and television is done now. Much like the majority here, I cannot wait to see the new Kenobi series in May. I even recently acquired an Obi-Wan Kenobi ROTS hilt that is empty in hopes of getting the parts to make it a working replica in time for the show.
Seeing these Deleted Scenes is just MIND BLOWING! It's like you are finding ANCIENT SECRETS for us!!!!
Hey, I just found this channel. These Original Trilogy deleted scenes are awesome!
I agree with you that should have been in the film. In 1977 I saw star wars about 100 times in the theater. Yes I was obsessed.
I feel you man!
Definitely agree with your insights regarding this deleted scene from Return of the Jedi and your whole synopsis of what might have been.
There is a series of books called Star Wars Tales, a type of Star Wars 'What If', and in one of them there's a story about Yoda as a Padawan chasing a Sith in a fighter. He shot the Sith ship and crash landed on Dagobah. I don't remember the exact details as this was long ago and I lost my books, but whether the Sith died in the crash or was defeated by Yoda, where the Sith died, Dark Side grew around it. This is the area where Luke has his vision (Starkiller as well, but that doesn't count... yet). Supposedly this was the reason why Yoda picked this planet specifically and made it his home when he went into hiding from the Empire. What a better place to hide from the Dark Side than a place surrounded by it. Like "The closest we are from danger, the farthest we are from harm" kind of a thing...
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Thanks for all the cool info you bring to us old time SW fans.
Yoda failed the Jedi Order. His arrogance blinded him.
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The Fact Yoda can but doesn't Kill is a major factor in why these scenarios are a issue when it comesto a Final Duel. Just a thought and Cheers to the Awesome Video👊😎.
There are so many questions out there that fans want to see answered. Personally what John Favreau is doing is really good, and I hope he really expands the gaps that are in the universe. Keep doing what your doing, it’s very interesting to watch!!
Great find on the footage. It truly does change your perspective of Obi.
As a veteran SW fan - it seems to me that live action Tv series portrays the SW universe in a way that fans of the original films and those that have come into the universe much later, can truly feel the force flowing through us as Lucas intended.
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It’s very powerful, good stuff.
It’s things like this that make the kenobi series full of potential. It can fill in a lot of things we fans wanted to know or see. Great vid by the way.
Exactly what I am thinking… thanks for the support! 😎👍
Very important aspect covered in your video. Thank you!
Stumbled upon your channel bay accident, but you have a new subscriber. Looks to be a great channel. Will have to recommend it to my older children as 4 out of 5 are dedicated Star Wars fans.
Wow! What a piece of information to be sure! I'm glad they left Return the way it was!
Thanks for revealing unheard words from Yoda! Incidentally I saw the original Yoda puppet body in the Museum of Television and Radio in Astoria Queens NY.
Thanks for the new outlet for more Star Wars info. looking forward to checking out more videos
I agree would have been a good line to add/keep. Now at 900 ish years and about to die, can't reveal everything.
Wow that's amazing about Yoda he is far mine of my favorite Star wars character and long with obi wan and Anakin are my favorite I say you did an amazing job on making this video great job
Thats some info i would have loved to have while seeing the movies. Great job.
A welcome deleted scene. Yoda still had power right unto his death. Amazing character.
I would have liked that version a lot better. They could have solved issues with the deleted scene you showed. I enjoyed this content. May the force be with you.
Glad you enjoyed :)
The dialoge about Obi-Wan wanting to tell him is in the novelization
You definitely got me with that thumbnail and headline..
Wow great video and great find on them deleted scenes
Thanks bro 😎
Nice vid. Can’t believe they left out yoda’s dialogue . Obi wans comments about Vader’s death always seemed like such crap. Now it makes sense.
I’m hyped for the Kenobi show, I hope they do show some Luke scenes as he did watch over him during his days on Tatooine from start to beginning. Maybe we will see some Star Wars Rebels stuff. Who knows, we’ll see soon!
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Lucas dropped the ball with that cut. Thanks for bringing it to light
Awesome ... I really wish that they would have kept this scene ... Great channel dude .. I just subscribed
Wow I never new any of this. Thank you.
Awesome breaking down all these deleted scenes and showing them ! 👍 and the giveaway what a great chance
Great video love that you get into the details!!💪
Such a good video . Never knew of the extended scenes before..
are we gonna talk about how stylish your lightsaber twirling was
Thank you 😎😎 should I do a tutorial series??
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I love your videos keep them coming. Star Wars reflect what’s going on today, but it’s always a plane in the background to overcome evil and prejudice.
I never thought of Obi-wan as an asshole, I always figured it was necessary to keep the truth hidden from him until later. And the cool thing is that even though it wasn't even planned at the time the first film came out, Alec Guinness was such a great actor that when he told Luke what happened to his father he gave Lucas the opening to make the plot twist in the first place. He was talking about Anakin as if Episode 3 was already written and he knew how it ended when it wasn't even fleshed out yet.
Dont know how I found this but really enjoyed this. Subbed! The first movie I ever saw in the cinema was Jedi in 83, I had just turned 4 and vividly remember the experience. Been in love with Star wars ever since! Look forward to checking out more of these deleted scenes I haven't seen!
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May the force be with you!
Idk why some scenes are left in,and what seems to be more important parts are left out,you're right this would've made Kenobi look less like an a hole
Amazing video mate
Glad you showed us this, will make me look for more stuff... Thanks
Don’t worry I’ll have more to come 😎
Totally changed Obi-Wan to have him just following instructions to not tell Luke. Really makes sense though
Yoda and vader will forever be my favorite light and dark side characters
That line of diaologe would have been right up with "I am your father". Total game changer.
Very true
I never once thought of Obi Wan as a liar
Fair enough
I remember the sadness when I first saw this scene at the movie theater
Cool to see that alternate Yoda ROTJ footage!
The hype for the Kenobi series is too real! Cool video.
Happy that your channel came up for me!
Like your sidetracked story...My eldest son was in love with Anakin being 2 when Clone Wars started and so watched that 1st. When he finally saw the Revenge of the Sith movie, he was absolutely devastated by the killing of the younglings. Even now as a 15yr old I think he is a little crushed as Anakin was his Hero
That’s too funny 😂😂
You have some great points & I like the idea of Obi Wan being able to tell Luke straight up.
A fan edit with that scene added would be great to see.
Thank you for that little treasure of knowledge!
This was an awesome video. Opens up your eyes to what could have been
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I wish they would release all of the old footage, no matter what state of completion its in. Any fan would love to see it!
Oh come on, in A New Hope when Luke asked what happened to his father , Obi Wan had to come up with something quick. You could see the look and his mannerisms he was lying. That was a dead give away. We all knew something was up and needed to keep watching to find out what was coming. There was no shock for me when Vader revealed he was Luke's father and I was 6 during A New Hope and 9 when Empire came out. Holy crap I'm 50 now...😳