What If Fives EXPOSED Order 66 To The Jedi Council?

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  • @obi-wankenobi6498
    @obi-wankenobi6498 Рік тому +974

    Hello there
    Dave Filoni created this arc just to cause pain in our hearts. To know how close Fives was to uncover the plot, but knowing full well how bad it would end.
    Good what if.

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  Рік тому +85

      Thanks mate good to see you again. Filoni definitely toying with our feelings.

    • @gamergamer8149
      @gamergamer8149 8 місяців тому +11

      this should be the main plot! espeacilly for me, who watched the movies from 1 to 6 and then the clone wars.

    • @GiratinaofFury
      @GiratinaofFury 6 місяців тому +6

      What is most tragic about this arc is that it effectively shows that the Clones had no choice. Just the phrase "Execute Order 66" and their free will was gone.

    • @davidlewis5189
      @davidlewis5189 6 місяців тому

      ​@@GiratinaofFury They were nothing more than Droids to the Republic, despite what some may say...

  • @lordofpain3476
    @lordofpain3476 Рік тому +2462

    What if the jedi were actually intelligent enough to realize that finding a convenient clone army just when they need one isn't a coincidence.
    And then decide NOT to bring them into the Republic ?

    • @Abygoneage
      @Abygoneage Рік тому +271

      The issue is that the Republic literally had no standing military at the time. It was debated heavily in the senate for decades as small conflicts arose in the galaxy.
      And with the separatists already having a prepared droid army, The republic would stand no chance while they spent months conscripting and training soldiers.
      Not to mention the war vehicles and funding needed to even support such an army.
      The Jedi and the Republic literally had 0 choice.

    • @Kingneo0053
      @Kingneo0053 Рік тому +59

      ​@Abygoneage A "What if?" where the Republic realized it's probably not wise to allow Corps to build up large martial forces while the Republic has nothing, and so decide to build up their own drone forces just in case.

    • @Abygoneage
      @Abygoneage Рік тому +1

      @@Kingneo0053 and do what? be a dictatorship that tells Companies, Corporations and Neutral worlds what to do?
      The very reason the war happened in the first place was because the Republic was over taxing the outer rim to support the use of para militaries to fight off pirates.
      The corporations had no choice but to make their own armies for self defense since the Republic refused to remove the "Ruusan Reformation act" which prohibits any organized military to be formed.
      All of this stems from the Sith secrectly causing discourse throughout the galaxy, Encouraging insurgents to fight the establishment and causing chaos, corruption, confusion, and complacency in the Senate.

    • @darthbane3937
      @darthbane3937 Рік тому +21

      Another reason along those lines would be a morel reluctance to use slave clones since they are Jedi so Yoda refuses to go to Kamino.

    • @Matt-yg8ub
      @Matt-yg8ub Рік тому +27

      LOL……Just when they need it….is literally about two days before the outbreak of the war.
      The Republik didn’t have an army and they needed an army because the separatist had an army, the only way this works is if The Jedi have the common sense to maintain the Highground at Geonosis and Prevent the separatist leaders from leaving the planet instead of engaging in a ground battle… otherwise they are forced into having to keep using the clones out of necessity

  • @ironpulse3658
    @ironpulse3658 Рік тому +650

    This is probably the happiest ending of the Clone Wars I've ever wanted😊

  • @lordofpain3476
    @lordofpain3476 Рік тому +779

    What if the jedi grew suspicious of Obi-Wan because he " discovered " both the clone army AND the Geonosian Droid army ?
    After all , Obi-Wan was Qui-Gon's apprentice and Qui-Gon was the apprentice of the leader of the confederacy .

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  Рік тому +147

      Interesting, I don’t think their investigation would amount to much tho…

    • @lordofpain3476
      @lordofpain3476 Рік тому +95

      @FantasyFolklore Let's be perfectly honest , the council weren't that intelligent.
      Look at what they did to Ahsoka.

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +5

      Interesting idea

    • @JediMasterZim
      @JediMasterZim Рік тому +28

      @@lordofpain3476 Yeah, that's a good point, the Jedi High Council collectively were rather stupid, to say nothing of full of themselves.
      Although that all said, I do have to disagree on the Ahsoka thing due to one small detail. As stupid as they were, I think the Council KNEW fully well that Ahsoka Tano was innocent...they just DIDN'T CARE whether she was innocent or guilty. I think the Jedi High Council also knew fully well-or at least had plenty of reason to believe-that Ahsoka would not receive a fair trial and she would be executed on circumstantial, even outright phony "evidence" for reasons of petty, stupid politics. I think the Jedi Council recognized that Ahsoka would be wrongly executed...but they made that decision anyways because at the end of the day they didn't care about Ahsoka Tano and her well-being. On that note, I would argue that at the end of the day, when the chips were down, the Jedi High Council didn't care about ANY of their subordinate Jedi, not just Ahsoka.

    • @gilesm5716
      @gilesm5716 Рік тому +5

      Yeah the council would not be able to put 2 and 2 together. Anything that required critical thinking wasn't really their cup of tea.

  • @MrMonkey2150
    @MrMonkey2150 Рік тому +455

    Anakin was kind and was loyal to the clones throughout the entire clone wars, he even stood by them when he killed the Jedi in the temple. I can absolutely see this happening and him protecting fives and listening to him. Anakin fought side by side with the 501s on countless missions and knew fives and would want to get the bottom of it

    • @Kamikazi91127
      @Kamikazi91127 10 місяців тому +3

      Who then killed any Clones who found out the truth of him being Anakin (while in the suit) and his care for his troops drastically went downhill. Keep in mind the 501st did the majority of the work, Anakin (dubbed Vader) didn't go rushing in like he did during TCW battles...

    • @MrMonkey2150
      @MrMonkey2150 10 місяців тому +18

      @@Kamikazi91127 I think you missed the entire point of someone falling to the dark side. Anakin died, he was killed by Darth vader. Darth vader literally says this himself many times

    • @mouse3872
      @mouse3872 10 місяців тому +9

      Only thing I can say is that I don't know if Anakin would choose Fives over Palpatine. Palpatine was a friend and mentor to Anakin at this point which is why Anakin got heated when Fives implied that the Palpatine was responsible for it and the fact Anakin sounded angry that Fives tried killing Palpatine

    • @MrMonkey2150
      @MrMonkey2150 10 місяців тому +4

      @@mouse3872 he would at least listen and trust him

    • @snipingflute4346
      @snipingflute4346 6 місяців тому +1

      Before the inhibitor chip reasoning, you could say he was the proto-Daenerys Targaryen or Grey Worm, commanding his Star Wars equivalent of the Unsullied. Except he wasn’t ever a king or emperor, rather, a former slave leading a band of loyal, disciplined, professional, slave soldiers.

  • @jenniferbrewer5370
    @jenniferbrewer5370 Рік тому +2123

    What if Commander Fox helped Fives fake his death?

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  Рік тому +433

      That would be sick

    • @youssefmesrati340
      @youssefmesrati340 Рік тому +262

      @@FantasyFolklore what if Thanos invaded the star wars galaxy

    • @Wheatleybuggygames
      @Wheatleybuggygames Рік тому +49

      @@youssefmesrati340hilarious

    • @TNT_Golem
      @TNT_Golem Рік тому +42

      ​@@youssefmesrati340the infinity stones only work in their original universe

    • @youssefmesrati340
      @youssefmesrati340 Рік тому +21

      @@TNT_Golem who cares they can still work they never said they only work in the mcu

  • @Mustang-wt1se
    @Mustang-wt1se 11 місяців тому +395

    Two minor thoughts. Fives was injected with a neuro toxin that made him act iraddictally so it would’ve passed by the time he talked to the council. And if Fives was sound of mind he may have been able to work something out with Anakin to save himself from Palpatine. I could see them dressing up a dead clone and giving him to Palpatine saying he didn’t survive without his chip

    • @monke9572
      @monke9572 10 місяців тому +15

      Also there was the part when destroying the main ship of the separatist fleet shut down all the droids. After that happened on Naboo, all of the droids could operate with out the capital ship.

    • @Kamikazi91127
      @Kamikazi91127 10 місяців тому +7

      Not likely to succeed as Fives had unique features that other Clones didn't have, simply trying to masquerade a fallen Clone wouldn't have worked. Keep in mind Palpatine's plan was designed when his master was still alive. Now did it run into unseen circumstances (Anakin for instance) yes, but it still played out to the letter (give or take)

    • @TheTurtlebot
      @TheTurtlebot 8 місяців тому +3

      A sound of mind fives is truly intimidating

    • @geronimo5537
      @geronimo5537 8 місяців тому +4

      It always bugged me fives never said they drugged him. Or that neither skywalker or rex really took fives serious. Even in season 11 where rex says find 5's the info is so watered down.

    • @geronimo5537
      @geronimo5537 8 місяців тому +1

      It always bugged me fives never said they drugged him. Or that neither skywalker or rex really took fives serious. Even in season 11 where rex says find 5's the info is so watered down.

  • @victortardue29
    @victortardue29 Рік тому +641

    I would love for Disney to make a What-If based on this. Would 100% be sick

    • @coreymckee4844
      @coreymckee4844 11 місяців тому

      Lol never happening. 😂 thanks to KK and her pathetic agenda

    • @NecrosisInTime
      @NecrosisInTime 11 місяців тому +48

      It would be sick, but Disney would ruin as they do with every Star Wars thing they make

    • @tiobridge841
      @tiobridge841 10 місяців тому +15

      @@NecrosisInTime I dunno, the Marvel What If series is one of the only good Marvel things they make anymore. It could be really good

    • @aldo1871
      @aldo1871 10 місяців тому +7

      @@NecrosisInTimeI feel like Disney wouldn’t touch the what if series , I think it’d be good like tales of the Jedi

    • @justinhansen9355
      @justinhansen9355 10 місяців тому +8

      They are. It was just annocues and the same peope doing the marvel one are doing it. So disneys finally lsienting

  • @taladon6420
    @taladon6420 11 місяців тому +108

    The members of the 501st really were some of the most independent clones out there. You have to take into consideration that Fives and the other members of Domino squad were regular clones - no Null ARCs, Commanders or something else - Regs. To achieve such independence is very remarkable when you're geneticly engineered to be loyal above all

  • @enderemp
    @enderemp Рік тому +64

    You can’t possibly tell me that as soon as you watched this ark you didn’t have that slither of hope…

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  Рік тому +18

      Legit why I made this video haha

    • @kobaltmyst8074
      @kobaltmyst8074 3 місяці тому

      YEA even tho u already know how the prequels end it hurts so much when fives inevitably gets killed

  • @TemmieContingenC
    @TemmieContingenC 9 місяців тому +21

    For how upsetting yet necessary it was to see Fives get sidelined like that when he was SO close to unravelling this age old plot, this what-if does it justice enough to heal my heart a little. God I love the Clone Wars, hasn’t changed since I was a kid watching it.
    Good work

  • @TheGhostOfRazgriz23
    @TheGhostOfRazgriz23 11 місяців тому +40

    What if Count Dooku actually went back to the light side? If you remember in episode 2, Count Dooku talks about how Qui Gon always spoke highly of Obi Wan and how he could use Qui Gon’s help “right now” showing how he feels regret taking the path he took, only for Obi Wan to shut him down with “Qui Gon would never join you.” What if Obi Wan actually listened to him and tried to help him?

  • @witherwolf3316
    @witherwolf3316 Рік тому +214

    Do you think Dooku knew about Order 66? He never really seemed to resent the Jedi enough to stage a genocide against them, but seemed more unhappy with the corruption within the Republic, which is why he was willing to lead the Separatists in a bid for independence. I feel like Palpatine never would have told him about Order 66.

    • @buchan448
      @buchan448 Рік тому +29

      i don't think he knew about it either to be honest.

    • @curriphacreator
      @curriphacreator Рік тому +14

      Wow, I never thought of that. Then again, he was perfectly willing to orchestrate and then watch the Jedi get slaughtered in the Geonosian Arena.

    • @Slayer398
      @Slayer398 Рік тому +22

      @@curriphacreator That was just a few (what he felt sacrifices) Jedi to the cause of the Separatists, not a wholesale slaughter of thousands which is an entirely different scale.

    • @curriphacreator
      @curriphacreator Рік тому +2

      @@Slayer398 sorry, but it says that where? All I've seen and read testifies that Dooku is as crafty and bloodthirsty as the worst Sith out there. He never hesitates to kill or otherwise get rid of anyone in his way. And in the canon Revenge of the Sith novel by Matthew Stover, Dooku plans on obliterating the entire Jedi Order to create an Empire led by him and Sidious. Besides, how many massacres did he commit during the Clone Wars? Dooku was done with the Republic and the Jedi. He was a full-on Sith, with all the evil that comes with the Dark Side.

    • @saber2802
      @saber2802 11 місяців тому +9

      @@curriphacreator Nope, that's been declared non-canon and legends material.

  • @Great_Cthulhu
    @Great_Cthulhu Рік тому +94

    What if Obi Wan didn't follow Jango Fett, but instead decided that if the clones were ordered by the jedi, he had a duty of care to them.

    • @COMMANDER_FOX
      @COMMANDER_FOX 11 місяців тому +3

      That would have Been very sad for me and my brothers

  • @soularprimestudios5930
    @soularprimestudios5930 Рік тому +259

    What if the Kaminoains betrayed Sideous and stayed loyal to the Jedi?

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  Рік тому +56

      Interesting…

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +14

      How interesting

    • @Slayer398
      @Slayer398 Рік тому +17

      Not meaning to rain on your idea, but there needs to be reason for that beyond "because", then it becomes interesting and we can speculate because the Kaminoans weren't "loyal", so much as they had common interests with the Jedi.

    • @Tofu6969
      @Tofu6969 11 місяців тому +12

      The kaminoans were businesspeople they wouldn’t unless they got a benefit from it

    • @fives.
      @fives. 11 місяців тому +3

      The Jedi knew the Clones were child soldiers, ergo they would've had to then arrest the Kaminoans on principle and as long as they were prostrating themselves trying to find the Sith Lords under their nose, they didn't have to have THAT conversation. It's the true ideological fallacy behind this that Sidious utilized to hollow-out the Jedi Order's capacity for decision making from the top down, done while they were at their most confused.

  • @96111thomas
    @96111thomas 8 місяців тому +19

    Palps had a direct intercom at hand which he would have activated preemptively, only reason he waited in canon was to get Anakin.

  • @berrylarkinpark
    @berrylarkinpark Рік тому +88

    What if Ahsoka figured out order 66 and told anakin

  • @Only1199
    @Only1199 Рік тому +105

    What if Commander Thorn survived and joined Rex's clone rebellion?

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +6

      Nice one

    • @COMMANDER_FOX
      @COMMANDER_FOX 11 місяців тому +4

      No that was not who he was you fans only saw him die honorably you did not see him kill hundreds of protesters just by hitting them with his gun

    • @The_Foxy2039
      @The_Foxy2039 11 місяців тому +1

      @@COMMANDER_FOXI mean if anyone would know it would be you as you served as his captain before his death then you were appointed commander of the Courscant Guard

    • @The_Foxy2039
      @The_Foxy2039 11 місяців тому +1

      @@COMMANDER_FOXalso it was nice serving by your side Commander

    • @The_Foxy2039
      @The_Foxy2039 11 місяців тому +1

      @@COMMANDER_FOXsorry I got my facts wrong, you were the main commander the whole time, thorn was a commander under your command. I apologize, Fox

  • @skynet3542
    @skynet3542 11 місяців тому +23

    That battle would be HUGE. Whole CIS fleet vs whole Republic fleet fighting over one planet. Thousands of destroyers, cruisers and battleships in a single finale battle

    • @microbiteplayz2338
      @microbiteplayz2338 4 місяці тому

      That would be amazing

    • @kobaltmyst8074
      @kobaltmyst8074 3 місяці тому

      coruscant would be destroyed, it would be like the battle for Terra at the end of the Horus heresy in Warhammer 40K

  • @mcrobielord1503
    @mcrobielord1503 Рік тому +63

    What if a chancellor, Palpatine was assassinated by the separatist during attack of the clones?

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  Рік тому +19

      This would be cool, I think I might integrate this into a different idea

    • @curriphacreator
      @curriphacreator Рік тому +2

      Oops… 😬😂👍

    • @mcrobielord1503
      @mcrobielord1503 Рік тому

      Cool

    • @microbiteplayz2338
      @microbiteplayz2338 4 місяці тому +1

      It wouldnt be possible, dooku knew palpatine/Sidious was the chancellor, if he didnt, most likely a different story, but yeah

  • @Achuidian179
    @Achuidian179 Рік тому +12

    Day 9 of my list.
    What if; Anakin never gave into his feelings for Padme, Aayla Secura was the chosen one and became Darth Talon, Shme Skywalker was adopted by the Tusken Raiders, Boba Fett saved his Tusken family, Count Dooku was a regular count for the CIS, Jabba the Hutt supported the Jedi at the Start of the Clone Wars, and finally, what if Sabine and Ezra fell in love?

  • @benjaminparker671
    @benjaminparker671 Рік тому +55

    What If Shaak Ti left the Order with Ahsoka
    What If Ahsoka and Barriss left the Order and joined Ventress
    What If Bastila Shan trained Anakin SkyWalker
    What If Satele Shan trained Luke SkyWalker

    • @fullaregrets5015
      @fullaregrets5015 Рік тому +6

      Oh, I like that 2nd one.

    • @gilesm5716
      @gilesm5716 Рік тому +7

      Actually, what is Anikan trained Barriss Offee would be a good addition (instead of Ahsoka)

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  Рік тому +8

      Could form their own little band

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +9

      These are great story idea's. I hope they get made into video's one day. Also you could add in "What if" Ashoka was trained as a Nightsister?

  • @AustinFoss00
    @AustinFoss00 8 місяців тому +15

    I mean, the Jedi Council didn't even believe one of the most respected and honorable Jedi to ever live, Qui-Gon, when he said he ran into a Sith Lord. What chance did Fives have to convince them of anything?

  • @jamesondonnell4054
    @jamesondonnell4054 11 місяців тому +20

    You know what’s interesting? Those shock troopers were still there when palpatine confirms that he is involved for the plot against the Jedi, and they acted like they didn’t hear it, I know they are loyal to palpatine but I think when hearing this it would be enough to do something

    • @ehrlichgesagt863
      @ehrlichgesagt863 7 місяців тому +1

      But thats the thing why nobody would belief him. Even of it was logical you would question why the other clones didn't hear anything, making everybody belief he just hallucinated

  • @OuterRimPride
    @OuterRimPride 11 місяців тому +6

    The Grievous, Dooku, and Sidious trio all at once has got to be a scene

  • @disneyknightspadilla1406
    @disneyknightspadilla1406 11 місяців тому +27

    That would make fives as the living protagonist. He wouldn’t just save his brothers, but also the Jedi members.

  • @lmn222002
    @lmn222002 11 місяців тому +87

    What a great story....well done!

  • @BlackMarvel25
    @BlackMarvel25 11 місяців тому +6

    I miss 5s so much. Out of all the stories his was the saddest of the clone wars. He was so close and then just gone. Super sad.

  • @timothyvanhoeck233
    @timothyvanhoeck233 3 місяці тому +1

    12:58 Didn't know the Gungans joined the CIS🤔
    Darth JarJar: "Mesa Bombad Sith Lord"😂

  • @MrElmo54321
    @MrElmo54321 11 місяців тому +9

    Ehhhh idk, I have a couple of notes:
    1: I’m certain palpatine might’ve activated order 66 early since it is scorched earth and not wait for the senators and Jedi to arrive.
    2: Palpatine would’ve most likely gone underground maybe taking Dooku but sacrificing Grevious and the droid army to help him escape. No way would he decide to fight at the front lines unless he was confident he’d win.
    4: I really doubt the Jedi would trust the senate, viewing how much control Palpatine had by that point, they most certainly would see it as a rabbit hole and they wouldn’t know who to trust.
    5: Palpatine in the prequels is always written to be 5 steps ahead, call it bullshit, call it plot armor, but palpatine losing all his plot contrivance in a series of brain farts doesn’t seem in character. Had that happened and had palpatine needed to accelerate his time tables, he certainly would do so upon realizing Order 66 was compromised. Imagine the chaos alone activating order 66 as the separatists invade, imagine the chaos as the very army protecting the republic turns on the Jedi and the senate that sided with said Jedi, the droid army descending below to further stretch the Jedi thin as they attack the surface. Surely the Jedi couldn’t survive those odds and perhaps the galaxy would become a worse place as the galactic republic is sacked, the Jedi are eradicated and scattered failing to save coruscant, the senate and the people massacred, and palpatine forced to become a warlord over ash and brimstone as the remaining separatists are placed under his thumb of rule while the galaxy falls into chaos.

  • @kellerweskier7214
    @kellerweskier7214 8 місяців тому +5

    why would Dooku still be on Palpy's side. He played Double Agent. He switched sides to find the Sith's plans. He told Obi about the plot and that Palpy was a sith.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +10

    A lot of this was fairly plausible and I liked it. Nicely done video.

  • @Mimic_Lord
    @Mimic_Lord Рік тому +54

    Day 30: What if General Grievous was secretly a Republic spy?

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  Рік тому +6

      36 more days my friend. The video is coming

    • @Mimic_Lord
      @Mimic_Lord Рік тому +1

      @@FantasyFolklore And I will be there to watch it

  • @richardbarrett4488
    @richardbarrett4488 Рік тому +13

    What if Anakin lost to Obi Wan on mustafar and lost his limbs.
    What if Palpatine won the clone wars.
    What if Yoda exiled himself to dagobah after Revenge of the Sith?
    What if LUke and Leía were separated at birth.
    Cmon man I’ve been asking for these since 2005

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  Рік тому +5

      You had me in the first half icl

    • @goliathgar4985
      @goliathgar4985 Рік тому

      More like What if Anikan lost to Obi-Wan on Mustafar, limbs lost but not burned by the lava

    • @rahh-dunk
      @rahh-dunk 4 місяці тому

      @@goliathgar4985he would rule the empire, lost limbs are no big issue since he has mad midichlorians, but without the need for life support? He could take on sidious.

  • @googley2668
    @googley2668 5 місяців тому +2

    This is probably one of my favourite fan scenarios for star wars

  • @MrMonkey2150
    @MrMonkey2150 Рік тому +49

    That moment when you realise that they could have just stunned fives instead of killing him 😂😮🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @COMMANDER_FOX
      @COMMANDER_FOX 11 місяців тому +7

      No no I killed him becuase I wanted to and if he missed me he could have hit kevin Kevin he was my favorite trooper and all the coruscant guards

    • @UltraPancake-qe6vh
      @UltraPancake-qe6vh 11 місяців тому +1

      @@COMMANDER_FOX kevin is goat

    • @COMMANDER_FOX
      @COMMANDER_FOX 11 місяців тому

      @@UltraPancake-qe6vh he is

    • @COMMANDER_FOX
      @COMMANDER_FOX 11 місяців тому

      @@UltraPancake-qe6vh he is better than me

    • @abramsullivan7764
      @abramsullivan7764 11 місяців тому

      ​@@COMMANDER_FOXKevin?

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +7

    "What if" The Jedi discovered that the Sith Temple under their own on Coruscant was corrupting them?

  • @caseymcpherson5658
    @caseymcpherson5658 Рік тому +18

    So, in theory this is nice, and I usually really like happy endings, but I would like to point out that the Jedi Order in its entirety was slowly drifting towards the dark side without realizing it during the republic era. I say this primarily due to their rejection of attachments, not only because it denies the concept of love, which is the most important aspect of the light, but also because of their reason for rejecting attachments, that being fear. I think if they had been given an abundance of time without being destroyed, the Jedi would have turned to the dark side in their own unique way, not becoming Sith, at least not by name, but I think their need to intertwine themselves with politics would gradually draw them into wanting more power "for the sake of peace."
    Ultimately the perceived need for power would drive them towards the dark side, and the fear which they were unwittingly allowing to control the order's policies regarding attachment, and the apathy that would develop towards others as a result of not allowing attachments would ultimately lead to the Jedi Order becoming just as bad if not worse than the empire. A new order of force users would have to develop in opposition to it, and it would have a far more difficult task fighting an order that controlled a unified republic with a clone army than the rebel alliance had fighting the empire. The turn would be gradual, but there would be a turning point when the Jedi would decide that it would be to dangerous for force sensitive children to be left to develop on their own, and either take them from their parents regardless of consent, or kill them if they were deemed too old and by extension, too dangerous to train.
    Granted, I think a new order would eventually form, something closer to what the Jedi were originally supposed to be, and light would eventually triumph over darkness, but the Jedi from the age of the galactic civil war were on the road to ruin with or without Sith interference.

  • @Averageracingfan
    @Averageracingfan Рік тому +7

    What if Kit fisto, Obi-wan, Anakin, Windu, And Ashoka went to arrest palpating before order 66

    • @tommytwo-times9053
      @tommytwo-times9053 Місяць тому

      kit and ahsoka would have died leading anakin down the same path. could honestly be an interesting comic

  • @Kingpizza21
    @Kingpizza21 8 місяців тому +4

    13:00 by that time the droids wouldn't need a control ship to operate.

    • @CrystalClear5617
      @CrystalClear5617 8 місяців тому +1

      Well they would still panic without orders considering their commanders are dead

    • @CASA-dy4vs
      @CASA-dy4vs Місяць тому

      @@CrystalClear5617”well what do we do now?” “I’m in charge!” “Roger roger”

    • @user-us7el6ss2l
      @user-us7el6ss2l 27 днів тому

      @@CASA-dy4vs No Im in charge!!!

  • @lottieparish1715
    @lottieparish1715 Рік тому +19

    What if Ahsoka got the powers of the daughter

  • @NerfMason
    @NerfMason Рік тому +30

    What if windu survived the fall and forgave and understood anakin and why he did it, then goes on to redeem Vader and lead him back to the light and try to make things right between them

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  Рік тому +23

      Hmm I think if Windu survived he wouldn’t follow this course of action, but it’s interesting to think

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +12

      This would be very interesting. But Mace Windu wasn't normally the forgiving type.

    • @L2EAG
      @L2EAG 11 місяців тому +2

      @@brokenbridge6316should have become darth vindos

  • @darthyetgon
    @darthyetgon Рік тому +5

    And then enters Maul, Venturess, Savage, and Talon The new sith and throws the rule of 2 away for a stronger order at least thats what they think

  • @Maplecakes1221
    @Maplecakes1221 11 місяців тому +1

    videos like these make me wish there was a what if series for star wars with the clone wars style animation, really loved the deep dive dude!

  • @luciferneverchanges5841
    @luciferneverchanges5841 Рік тому +4

    They offered the one thing we couldn't refuse, *money*

  • @SartixFilms
    @SartixFilms Рік тому +4

    Dude this was great. Imagine if Disney was willing to do a what if show for the clone wars. This would be one episode I would kill to see.

  • @pip_SMM
    @pip_SMM Рік тому +2

    Ironic how Dooku's old age getting the best of him results in his death by YODA

  • @paulnicholson5997
    @paulnicholson5997 Рік тому +4

    Wow, ill have to say this is a very well thought out and put together video. Very interesting to be sure. Even though this would erase Lukes entire arch and the OT, id be down with watching a "What if" offically put together anamated or filmed version, even though thats basically what we just got. Good job, truly. Only someone that really loves Star Wars could have put this much attention to detail together. Thank you.😊

    • @SithMaster184
      @SithMaster184 Рік тому

      True, I would love it if there was a Star Wars What If series.

  • @gl0bal7474
    @gl0bal7474 Рік тому +3

    This is very well done. Part of me wishes this was canon

  • @ph4ntom_39
    @ph4ntom_39 Рік тому +9

    Great video! I would like to see what if Jango Fett killed Mace Windu in AOTC

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  Рік тому +2

      Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed. Definitely need to do some Jango Fett videos soon

  • @simrandeol5101
    @simrandeol5101 Рік тому +2

    What if general grievous and his 2 Magna guards helped count Dooku fight Anakin and obi wan on the invisible hand.

  • @shinypokeAce
    @shinypokeAce 8 місяців тому +2

    If hevy didn’t die he probably would have taken fives character arc

  • @churchofmadness
    @churchofmadness 4 місяці тому +1

    Ah yes, another "what if Anakin grows brains to think with" scenario

  • @scuffedspartan5144
    @scuffedspartan5144 7 місяців тому +8

    Free my boy Fives!

  • @signorelephant
    @signorelephant Рік тому +2

    I didnt think the newer models of droids needed a command center, but were instead independent thinkers?

  • @Dragon_gamer6989
    @Dragon_gamer6989 10 місяців тому +1

    6:00 SEDUCE ANI TO THE DARK SIDE?!? WHAT WAS PALPATINE PLANNING AT FIRST

  • @dontmindme1025
    @dontmindme1025 Рік тому +1

    Bro imagine an entire clone army thousands of them like hundreds of thousands of them being led by one man Rex himself, what a giga chad.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +3

    "What if" Metra Surik didn't go to find Revan after defeating the Sith Triumvirate?

    • @Panther-Strife4724
      @Panther-Strife4724 Рік тому

      Then he is forever trapped, unless he can change Scourge to his side.

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому

      @@Panther-Strife4724---Possible. But then again.

  • @kingchaos4255
    @kingchaos4255 Рік тому +7

    What if Darth Plagueis was a Jedi or palpatine fell in love with Padme when she was pregnant 😂

    • @kingchaos4255
      @kingchaos4255 Рік тому +2

      What if Leia was the chosen one

    • @kingchaos4255
      @kingchaos4255 Рік тому +3

      What if Dumbledore was a Jedi

    • @kingchaos4255
      @kingchaos4255 Рік тому +4

      what if Darth Revan trained Luke Skywalker

    • @kingchaos4255
      @kingchaos4255 Рік тому

      What if Luke contacts all Jedi high council members force ghosts for training and confront Vader and palpatine

    • @kingchaos4255
      @kingchaos4255 Рік тому

      What if Luke time travels back to the time of order 66 at Jedi Temple attack

  • @Lilblack-mq7yf
    @Lilblack-mq7yf 5 місяців тому

    This was hands down the best what if with the best visuals good job man

  • @MisterDanger01
    @MisterDanger01 2 дні тому

    In some point, you can see CT-5555 Fives as the FIRST rebell, he tried to warn everyone and gave his life so Rex could start investigating deeper. Saddest part is apart of Rex no one believed Fives, not even Anakin.

  • @miroatanasov
    @miroatanasov Рік тому +7

    Please make What if Padme Amidala was a Sith Lord? Part 4

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  Рік тому

      Tbh, I think that story is kinda finished. I don’t see myself adding to it any time soon. I am uploading the combination of the 3 parts soon - and I’ve redone parts 1 and 2 with better images and audio quality.

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому

      That's probably not going to happen. Sorry, friend.

    • @user-us7el6ss2l
      @user-us7el6ss2l 27 днів тому

      Anakin would have a meltdown

  • @bluefin844
    @bluefin844 9 місяців тому

    Should've seen this sooner. It actually makes me quite sad knowing how easily the tides could have shifted.

  • @jaffinator2166
    @jaffinator2166 8 місяців тому

    Very great story! I’d love a sequel to this where you go over the one lingering thread, Maul.

  • @Zinj1000
    @Zinj1000 8 місяців тому +1

    Man I really miss the original story. No secret cop out chip, no hidden order, no conspiracy. Just soldiers following orders.

  • @DoritoBob777
    @DoritoBob777 7 місяців тому

    one flaw i noticed, by the end of the clone wars all of the separatist battle droids were individually controlled. it was only in the beginning of the war that if a separatists control ship was destroyed all the droids would shutdown. since they changed it, when the control ship is destroyed it wouldn't affect the droids on the ground, meaning the battle would continue. possibly a better outcome would have been to use some sort of EMP to shutdown the droid army. although many other civilian and republic droids would be shut down too, they could be reset so that they return to working order.

  • @RMV1560
    @RMV1560 5 місяців тому

    Oh man, this is epic. One of my favorite fan fics and probably the best ending of the clone wars. I would pay to see this animated.

  • @Badgey32
    @Badgey32 Рік тому +4

    What if full potential Anakin and full potential Luke fight

  • @shaypatrick2831
    @shaypatrick2831 10 місяців тому

    bro i could brush past the fact one of the pictures show a clone was shooting his blasters sideways lol

  • @JavelinAngel1295
    @JavelinAngel1295 11 місяців тому

    This is the greatest What if that no one in Disney and Marvel could've ever thought of. Masterful plot here.

  • @sipioc
    @sipioc 11 місяців тому +2

    What if the Red Astromech didn’t have a bad motivator?

  • @QuantumZer-0
    @QuantumZer-0 10 місяців тому +3

    Fives almost accomplished this 😭

  • @Sienna6164
    @Sienna6164 10 місяців тому +2

    Wouldn’t Palpatine also be charged with conspiracy to commit genocide?

  • @petergohan
    @petergohan 11 місяців тому +1

    Man, Star Wars really need an "What If" series, with the close inspection of Filloni of course, so Disney can't mess it up more.

  • @SoftJun0
    @SoftJun0 7 місяців тому

    I'm so sad this isn't what happened :( I would've cried for the happy ending. The Jedi Council made it known to viewers that they were on the slow side and chose to be blind. Also you do a amazing job at telling a story.

  • @ebonaparte3853
    @ebonaparte3853 8 місяців тому +2

    Droids didn’t rely on control ships after the Battle of Naboo.

  • @raldrid8264
    @raldrid8264 6 місяців тому

    Honestly I hope they do a what if movie like this. It would be absolutely superb content.

  • @lincolnross9000
    @lincolnross9000 Рік тому +1

    They probably wouldn’t believe him with their track record of bad decisions.

  • @benperry8058
    @benperry8058 7 місяців тому

    this is exactly why we need a what if for star wars. imagine a battle of corusant that would go crazy

  • @jacobunderwood5206
    @jacobunderwood5206 10 місяців тому +1

    And then, like a month later, Darth Maul invades Mandalore and they all have to deal with that

  • @It_was_perfect
    @It_was_perfect 8 місяців тому

    Damn! I want this ending so bad! A final battle in Coruscant while Palpatine, Dooku and Grievous fight all the other jedis is just amazing!!

  • @memeboyr6177
    @memeboyr6177 Рік тому +3

    What if Tup's inhibitor chip never malfunctioned?

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  Рік тому +3

      I think this would have an effect on Ashoka during order 66, Rex would never tell her to look for Fives and thus, never remove his inhibitor chip

    • @gabrielaj2066
      @gabrielaj2066 Рік тому

      @@FantasyFolkloreoh yeah Rex would have killed ahsoka tano.

  • @NolDragon
    @NolDragon 3 місяці тому

    "Execute Order 65"
    "Yes Senator"
    Sounds quite different !

  • @tinobemellow
    @tinobemellow 21 день тому

    Fives should have started shouting "he's behind it" when Shaak Ti came in. That was literally all he had to do.

  • @Ducko852
    @Ducko852 Рік тому +3

    What if Captain Rex raised Leia and Luke

  • @Dragon0fDeath
    @Dragon0fDeath 10 місяців тому

    Five's: The nightmare, the endless nightmare. In all of our dreams.
    Jedi Council: Say no more

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +1

    "What if" the love of Qui-Gon's life didn't die?

  • @BosstyGaming_YT
    @BosstyGaming_YT Рік тому +1

    There’s got to be a long sreres of WHAT IF’s we would love love that

  • @Whoami691
    @Whoami691 29 днів тому

    The jedi: Wow! A clone army right when we needed to find an army! Howutterly convenient! Lets use it!
    Rahm Kota: you're all idiots...

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +1

    "What if" Sabine Wren discovered that she was Force-Sensitive at the same time Ezra did in the SW: Rebels series.

  • @Acoolnamme
    @Acoolnamme Рік тому +4

    What if maul snitched on Palpatine after his brother's death

    • @GodOfWar05100
      @GodOfWar05100 11 місяців тому +1

      I think he was really close to tell Ahsoka but thing escalated too quick and they started fighting.

  • @mutolover3851
    @mutolover3851 6 місяців тому +1

    1st: Great storyline, would have been an epically climactic Battle of Coruscant.
    2nd: They stopped using droid command ships after the events of Episode I, so that plot point is flawed.

  • @John.S92
    @John.S92 10 місяців тому

    Coruscant has a planetary shield that prevents enemy ingress from orbit, and the droids was made self-propelled (as in not requiring a specialized control station or ship to function) after the events in Episode I, lastly, "parts of the planet was destroyed" except the city-planet is hundreds of kilometers tall (counted from original surface to tip of the tallest buildings, as Coruscant has multiple sections beneath the "surface" including an entire city-structure beneath), so, destroying a part of even "just" a section of the surface would likely not be even plausible if as much as an entire super-stardestroyer crashed down on top.

  • @brocktonbishop5874
    @brocktonbishop5874 Рік тому +2

    It’s absolutely and perfectly beautiful! If Fives didn’t die and exposed the truth to the Jedi, the Clone Wars would’ve ended even more heroically especially with the deaths of Darth Sidious, Count Dooku and General Grievous.

    • @COMMANDER_FOX
      @COMMANDER_FOX 11 місяців тому

      I would still kill him afterwards

  • @jayj9440
    @jayj9440 6 місяців тому

    They need to make a Star Wars "What if" with these storylines

  • @drewluna143
    @drewluna143 Місяць тому

    Dude this would be amazing to watch in live action or even as a part of the clone wars. This is so crazy bruh I would love to see this

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 Рік тому +3

    What if the Clone Wars reached earth during WW2?

  • @novaleostreamvods3192
    @novaleostreamvods3192 3 місяці тому

    This makes WAY MORE SENSE

  • @thatcrazyguy1208
    @thatcrazyguy1208 8 місяців тому +1

    wait, didn't the Kaminoans think Darth Tyranus was a Jedi?

    • @percysriptide2345
      @percysriptide2345 6 місяців тому

      Nah they were working directly with the separatists at least at the high levels

  • @danielrock7818
    @danielrock7818 11 місяців тому +1

    This needs to be an animated movie