I have mine hooked up to a 70 inch 4k hdr samsung tv and it's mind blowing! No lag no screen tearing no input problems, only thing is I'm limited to 60 hz. Why would you use a monitor? Giant screen all the way, PC MASTER RACE ALL THE WAY!
same, laptop plugged in to tv. wireless m&k. child can cuddle up next to me. i was console gamer all my life, but last 4 years, i now mainly purchase on pc. you always have it, and steam controller settings work well with almost any controller!
I have a second monitor wall mounted over my bed for cozy PC gaming, if Microsoft was smart they'd invest more into windows gaming, I'd like the ability to boot my PC with my controller
@WeightlessFlex I play plenty of FPS on a controller lol. Now some older games have no controller support, MW2, MW3, Dead Rising 1 and 2, Devil May Cry 1-3. What really annoys me is games we grew up playing split screen have no split screen option on PC. Left 4 Dead, early CoD, Borderlands etc.
Being a 90s kid I grew up with a PC in the house. I switched to PC from Xbox years ago. I didn't like paying to use the internet I already pay for. And trying to use the internet browser on console was a nightmare. The learning curve is there. But in my opinion it's worth it. I'll never go back to a console. You don't have to go overboard with a pc to have a great experience. Take your time pick what you want to meet your needs. Most of all gaming is all about the fun. Whatever platform you have the most fun with that is the answer.
1:57 I can assure you people do hook up there PC to there TV, I'm one of them. If you connect game controllers to your PC as well it's like being on a console.
Every person I have helped move to PC had this same stupid argument. I guess they have never heard of big picture mode. YOU DONT NEED TO SIT AT A DESK, I use a tv as a second monitor with all wireless peripherals.
I dont get why people keep saying you cant play on tv with pc. It works the same as a console. Its total nonsense. Plus some tv's are better than a lot of monitors
I play on a tv and it’s honestly great, I just got a mini keyboard and mouse on my coffee table and use it when I need to switch games and use controller
I play a lot of games on my PC but typically will buy long single-player games on my PS5. Good balance for me both are fantastic at what they do and serve their own purpose.
I switched to pc and haven't regretted it. I have My main rig and a steam deck for most of my indies. This has simplified my decision to play on one ecosystem. Having to choose which system to play on was kind of annoying me since all games, for the most part, run better on my rig, so I didn't see the reason to game on my PS5. I know not everyone has this luxury, but ultimately it's so much nicer.
I play almost exclusively on Steam, no issues there about the games being spread out with me. They have a large catalog and most anything you will want or need. I just don't bother with other store fronts because I like everything to be together. I know what you are saying though, but I think if you do make the leap, you will likely neglect the other store fronts too. They are just there, some use them, and some have a few things Steam won't have, but it is few. You make a lot of really good points, sometimes I miss consoles. My pc is a bit dated and can't play a lot of newer games now, not to mention I have worn out and bought keyboards and mice, it gets pricey. Once I adapted to pc though, I never really looked back. I love older consoles ps3 and down, but the modern console experience does little to draw me in, still a lot of love for consoles, especially Nintendo with the Switch being a unique exception. Ask around with your console friends and chances are they may have delved into pc already too, if you need them to play with. I totally understand that, I mostly an independent player, untied to others, but I would have a hard time disconnecting from players I know, etc. Learning keyboard and mouse is a small barrier that gets easy to get used to fast. Actually I am so used to it that I struggle anytime I try to use a controller now, even on the Steam Deck, my thumbs just are not able to handle the analog sticks as well now. Anyways good luck, and enjoy whatever path you go. Game on and keep on keeping the debate Zen, some people can't and that is a shame.
I think it’s important to bring up that just because nobody does something doesn’t mean you can’t. Get a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse just to control the pc from your couch. A tv lunch stand is great for it to rest on, then just use steam big picture. Big picture mode is essentially the same as the steam deck. Steam input allows for you to custom bind anything to a controller so you can actually play more games on a controller on pc than console. I’m not sure if you knew this but you can launch non steam games from steam if you really wanted to.
Even before the start of the video, I bet myself the comfort on couch vs monitor and desk would come up. It's not the 2000's anymore, plus your PS5 is taking up as much real estate as a tower pc would. And the controller argument isn't worth discussion when blue-tooth is always an option. Just know, these arguments always fall to the wayside in the end. I sometimes think it's some kind of personalized guilt trip for some for red-pilling the console space and breaking orbit. Once the console shackles come off, the realization of the true freedom of gaming becomes clear.
I play pc on my tv with a controller all the time. I never use a keyboard and mouse if it can use a controller. The official xbox adapter supports 4 controllers with the one adaptor and its more stable than blutooth. You can use steam big picture or playnite or launchbox for the full screen interface with a controller. Theres display fusion which is what i use for swapping between the monitor or the tv in the office or the living room tv which are all connected directly. Also if you want to own things theres gog and piracy lol. I pirate games i buy so i have a drm free copy thats also portable. Any drm free game that is installed is totally portable other than the save files which have to be manually transferred but the game still creates new saves automatically if you copied it to a new machine. PC is its own thing and it can be made to do about anything.
i really dont care about this channels opinion that no one uses a tv and controller ... but may i ask you want pc game is not better with a mouse/kb? tell me some of your favs.
@@fujisan-zu4nd its not about playing with the most skill or accuracy for me. I play for relaxation and comfort. I find the controller more couch/relax friendly.
@@fujisan-zu4nd oh ok. I'm in the minority because as I said I play most everything on a controller. But the ones that are flat out better on a controller imo are any platformers/racing/character action games(Playstation ports etc)/puzzle games like Terri's effect/vr games/most Japanese developed games like the various role playing games. Games that most would agree are better on b/m are fps/stretegy/rts/point and click games. I still play most single player fps games on controller but thats just me.
@@danpatrick7176 so you can name tetris ...and that is it...but it is a classic for sure. i dont even think the russian knew what a mouse was back then.
Why are you discrediting playing PC on a TV or lean on others not doing it when saying that's what they want? You know the solution to your problem but are actively rejecting it. I personally do play PC on a couch in my game room on a TV. I am replying to your video right now on said couch on said tv from my PC.
You would be VERY surprised how many people play PC with a controller on their couch lol. Or they stream games from their PC via steam link to their TV and play on their high spec PC remotely in the living room.
I have a Nvidia shield and I use Moonlight client and sunshine server on my PC and playnite to put all my games under one interface and it has been fantastic I hook my controller to my Nvidia Shield then boot up moonlight that can take me straight to playnite and start playing my PC games just like I'm on a console
I'm Gen X, my first console was pong, I've had a lot of other consoles after that and moved to PC after PS1. A few months ago I retired my 11 year old gaming rig and it still had better specs than a PS5. With shopping smart and upgrading gradually i kept it alive for cheap. I could reuse my GPU in my new rig and am safe for the next 6-7 years with lots of room for improvement to keep it alive after that. When I'm interested in a game I put it on wishlist and buy when its on sale, I spend maybe 200-300$ a year on games and got a massive backlog in my library. I got GTA 5 for 15$ and RDR 2 for 30$, I played the Switch port of RDR 1 in an emulator in 1440p and 60fps. At least half of my playtime is on Indiegems not available on consoles, not to mention the modding scene. I also use the PC for photo-, audio- and videoediting and manage my musiclibrary. With all the money I don't have to spend on subscriptions, overprized games and new consoles I could easily afford a PS 5 controller, a massive beanbag and a beamer. Actual consoles are underspeced and overprized PCs and their OSes are designed to wall you in and rip you off. Move to PC, you won't regret it
Buying a PC in 2018 changed my mindset on everything, I then went down the linux rabbithole in 2021 and realized that consoles are just locked down cucked PCs. The death of the console cannot come soon enough.
Hey that's nice of you to taking a step and going to try a new frontier, PC gaming is not per fect it has it's own problem. But now the community is stronger than ever almost any problem is solve either by community or the dev in a really short time frame. It might be hard at first but when you get comfortable with it, it really easy to setup multiple way to play games. For example you wanna play from the couch no problem controller support is there hdmi 2.1 is already on most new gpu except for the lowest end. you want to connect a third party controller to match your game like a flight controller that's good too. Or if your game have couch co-op like older game, Steam have these amazing feature that allowed you to do that with your buddy across the world. One thing I like to point out is the cost of getting into PC gaming, Yes it's expensive when you see PC enthusiast throw around $1000 like it's nothing. But actually you can start way lower with a nice budget build now that there is DLSS and FSR upscaling 4k 120hz are more accessible than ever. something like amd 7800xt or 4070ti super is a nice investment and absolutely future proof. There are many many more scenario and way to enjoy PC game. like for me I can remote my PC from my IPAD to download a game even before I arrived at home(or if I'm too lazy I remote just to change youtube video when I'm on my bed 2 meter away LOL). But hey console has it's own advantage and I would love for more people to love gaming and not a platform. For now I stick with my Indies game on Steam which is cheap and a lot of fun to play with.
Thanks for the comment! I would probably play controller with some games but I really wanna learn to use mouse and keyboard proficiently too.and Indies are the best! I made a game and published it on Steam called Banished Sir. Check it out! Haha
i get your points and that leap to pc can be quite overwhelming and even scary to some degree especially if you consider the time and investment in the hobby itself so that jump shouldn't be underestimated. I switched to pc at the end of the xbox one/ps4 lifecycle around a year before the xbox series and ps5 came out. Have been playing on console since i was 5 and am 26 now so around 16 years of only console experience but i personally am very happy with the switch to pc. I got a pc that is a bit stronger than the current gen consoles for 1440p ultrawide gaming so i did keep my ps4 and series s when i got my pc but i couldn't use them properly since i have also gotten a ultrawide monitor so i eventually switched over completely. I was hooked to the extra amount of screen space and i have a hard time going back to 16:9 at this point (my monitor is 21:9). Controller support is essentially the same as console.. so basically any game that you can play on console with a controller (with the exception of exclusives of course) will also support controller on pc and to a certain degree a pc like the steam deck can basically emulate a controller into any game even if doesn't support controller.. Quite fascinating since i got my steam deck oled at the beginning of this year and it might be a good way to get into pc gaming without losing your comfort if you don't have a comfortable pc gaming setup yet. I don't think a full on switch is necessary so don't go all in afterall pc gaming is not for everyone even though people come up with this pc master race crap and it being "the best way to experience games" and yes to a degree that might be true due to it's almost limitless nature but unfortunately that also takes away from the comfort of not worrying too much about tech, upgrades and so on.. complexity and options doesn't necessary make life easier and sometimes it's just nice to not care and worry too much about it.
don't do it just mod your consoles - PC has very high maintenance and compatibility issues with OS - Consoles keeps it simple to play video games by turning it on and playing the game with controller in hand. The experience will never be the same turning on a PC login closing emails and notifications etc and boot up a game through steam or epic games etc. Consoles are easier to organise gaming nights and friends can bring their controllers over and have a great time playing your favourite games - if a PC costs $3000 just imagine the amount of games you could buy with that money. - Consoles removes having shitting windows running in the back ground - consoles is more family friendly nothing beats having your son or daughter playing a console game together more memories
@@sirvern7825 thanks man and welcome to the dad club - I have a daughter she's 4 years old and she love playing video game with me. Nothing will beat seeing your children play Mario 64 or Super Mario World on snes. You have an amazing setup for your children to play while you sit in that big bean bag with a beer in Hand and watch them play games.
I've been making sure to game on GoG Galaxy. The games run better, and if you want to copy it on a USB to another system, you can do that. You'll litterally free to do what you did back in the 90's.
I find the debate "PC vs Console" to be useless. They're options, for different needs, that's it. It's not about "what's better" (spoilers: nowadays they both suck). If you want convenience, you get a console. It's cheaper, it's great for kids, you plug it in and that's it. If you want a more powerful rig, that squeeze the shit out of your games, and if you want to tinker with your games, you get a PC. Or at least, IT WAS like this, before both consoles and PC started requiring access to the internet, day one patches, incomplete files on discs or no discs at all. These are the real problems, not keyboards, controllers, achievements and chairs used. Today, you can use a controller or a mouse+ keyboards on both, PC and console. I know a lot of people that hook up their PC's to a TV (they use it just for gaming and movies). You didn't find a lot of kids that were playing on a PC, 30 years ago. Kids used to play on consoles. A console was way cheaper than a brand new PC, and more child-friendly (didn't have an internet connection and most games were toned down as far as mature content goes). It was also great for family and friends to sit on the couch and have some fun. PC's, on the other hand, were for another audience entirely. They were more expensive, those who bought them, used them primarily for working and less for gaming. Also, PC games were for a more mature audience, you could access the internet (I still believe that's a bad thing for children), and required you to sit in fron of a desk. Have you seen 2 people cramped around a keyboard, trying to play something (Mortal Kombat 4 comes to mind) ? Wasn't fun. Of course, LAN gaming became a thing eventually, but that was years later, but that required for you to either have more than one PC in your house, or having cables dangling to your neighbours.
Best comment on this video, totally unbiased and a lot of great points. I play a lot of games on PC but save the big budget single player games for the PlayStation.
I don't think your exactly qualified to discuss the pros and cons here. Your offering opinions and judgments on PC gaming that you don't have firsthand experience with. Some of the Cons you brought up regarding PC are true and i do agree with, but some things you mentioned are completely wrong and its obvious you don't have firsthand experience with gaming on pc and your only relying on observation and secondhand information. I think you should buy a gaming PC, use it for a few months, and give us an update video. You can still game on PC on your big screen TV while chilling on your beanbag with a ps5 controller.
@@sirvern7825 You talking about the rig you got 7 years ago with only 2 gig Vram!? You need to treat yourself and get a real gaming PC. New GPUs are are expected to release close to the end of this year or early 2025 and that will be a good time to buy. You can upgrade that 2 gig Vram to 24 gig Vram.
@@sirvern7825That still doesn't make you qualified to judge the quality of both lmao. The fact is that the PC is the superior option and will always stay this way no matter the preference.
I keep a pirated version of any of the games I own on pc, when possibile. I'm not 100% sure is that useful but storage is cheap and compact so it doesn't bother me too much.
depending on the game it can be quite needless, unless you're playing some of the more niche or hard to pirate stuff there will almost always be copies to download online. Not that i'm saying you shouldn't, i can imagine it's quite nice having access to dozens or hundreds of games at a whim.
I never understood the whole couch vs setup thing, me personally I like having a setup playing on a couch feels lazy I hate playing on a big tv especially for competitive games. Learning a keyboard is very easy it’s really not that hard to learn. Also I hate when consoles guys say “ohh to play older games on pc they never work or they’re troubleshooting” involved in actuality it’s pretty easy to get older games to work on windows 11/10 it’s called PC wiki and mods if you don’t know how to use a operating system in 2024 that’s a you problem. And I hate when consoles guys come up with these imaginary prices on pcs not every pc cost over 2,000 dollars. Also you can use PlayStation controllers on none support games with DS4 windows.
At this circumstances where exclusive almost dissapeared, PC is the most sensible and logical choice as the long term investment. Also PC for me isnt about flexing specs but enjoying your setup. My PC isnt the most powerful ,but playing games in 1080p even the latest one are as smooth as butter with more than 60 FPS achievable. My nephew even only plays at 768p television on his PC and he is probably much more happier PC gamer than me (because he is still in college and have all time in the world to play..lol... While someone like us with responsibility, one or two hour a day of uninterrupted play session is a bless )
People overcomplicate this because they think you need multiple platforms still. Nowadays one is fine. Back in the day you almost had to have the latest Playstation or Xbox and even the Sega and Nintendo consoles for the latest exclusive games. They are all basically the same now with just a few differences. Gaming is about having fun imo, and it's really hard to do that when you have to stress over having all these different platforms. BTW i like PC, Xbox and Playstation still, but i am done trying to have all of them lol.
Plenty of people couch game on their PC’s, I did it exclusively for years and used a lap desk setup for shooters. These days I have my desk below my TV so I can easily swap over depending on what I’m playing.
I built my pc and I only use controller 🤷🏽♂️ I like having control over my graphics, and almost every game uses controller. But I do miss trophies, I have a feeling PlayStation is making there own launcher
My number 1 reason for switching from my PS3 to PC back in 2013 because I wanted to use the mouse and keyboard for games, and the PS4 was underwhelming spec-wise (we waited 7-8 years to finally go from 720p to 1080p, but the PS4 still struggles at 900p a lot of the time). I did bought a PS5 just for 4K HDR Blu-Ray and streaming but there is no reason for me to go back to playing games on a console anymore (apart from Persona Dancing games which is still exclusively on PlayStation).
Well PC support most controllers,Xbox controllers are the official PC controller since windows XP and PS5/PS4 controllers are supported . playstation games have trophy and most games that was on Xbox have Xbox achievements on PC.and one last thing,PC have emulation.
I game on PC because I don't see the need for a console these days. Years back I'd always have both but the Xbox 360 and PS3 era was the last time I felt the consoles were unique. Xbox GamePass means I can play every new Xbox release and Sony might take two years but even their games are coming to the PC now. I have a low end PC connected to my TV just as a GamePass system, it's essentially an Xbox. When consoles gave up the put in a game and play aspect, they just became hardware locked PCs.
Nintendo is the only console company I'll buy from now personally. I pretty much exclusively use it for party games when I go to a friend's/families house.
@@Giliver But you can run all Nintendo Switch exclusive games on your PC / TV and SteamDeck for portability. It's a better value than a Switch console currently
The biggest deal breaker for consoles to me is having pay to play games online. I really feel like the subscription services from the consoles are huge scams New consoles not being able to play all my old games gets frustrating as well. Recently got a Steam Deck and am now working to build my own PC. I love not having to pay to play online and having all my old PC games from 2011 while being able to build that library up again for really cheap. No more consoles for me! (I have tbe Xbox 360, Wii, Xbox One X, 3DS, Switch, and now Steam Deck)
I play my PC on my TV, which also has my consoles hooked up to it. Before this current setup I had 4 screens, 2 for my PC and 1 HDTV for my modern consoles and 1 CRT for retro consoles. I wanted to simplify my setup and streamline it, sold a lot of my retro stuff that didn't get much play, that I can and sometimes do emulate on my PC with better graphics and framerates, and I got an OLED TV and a monster gaming PC. One screen now, feels a lot smoother. Games that need a controller, or games that I just like better with a controller, I can and still do it. IMO, go to PC, or at least get a rig that's MORE powerful than a PS5/Xbox Series X. If your PC isn't going to outclass the consoles, its not worth it, unless you play some specific genres that are just better on PC like RTS or MMO or w/e else. Also, get an OLED TV if you don't have one. Made this comment about after 8 minutes of watching, I also have a large physical collection. I miss big box PC games, I actually started getting some of my favorite PC games from Ebay just to have them on my shelf. Games like Command and Conquer, Starcraft, Bioshock etc. Very few games still even have a case you can get, usually just the AAA games like Elden Ring and CyberPunk 2077 and even then its just a download code inside the box.
I say yes and no to getting a system more powerful than the consoles. while its nice to have, it isn't necessary. For example, a 3060 is just a little weaker than the PS5, however due to a lot of games having a locked framerate on console, the 3060 will pull ahead in framerate. Most console games also don't have to option to turn off dynamic resolution scaling. spiderman 2 in performance mode for example, the resolution is as high as 1440p, but can drop as low as 900p to maintain a certain framerate. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it does result in worse image quality versus playing on a 3060 at 1080p or 1440p. the resolution will never change if u dont want it to. with console you dont have that option, at least for the 60fps mode. Then you have access to DLSS which is superior A.I. upscaling to the console's own upscaling technique, and DLAA which is better than typical TAA found on consoles. this all further increases image quality over consoles, even on a 3060 which is objectively a little weaker than consoles. So there's benefits to even getting a weaker PC than the consoles. Also important to remember that you not only have access to PS5 games, but Series X and switch games if you want to emulate them. on top of older consoles, Steam, GOG and etc. so PC will have far more access to games than any one console will have too.
It is a deliberate tactical move on the part of publishers to make PC a second class citizen. They do this so they can milk their cash cow of console gamers first, before going to the more discerning group that is PC gamers. Console players are killed with conveniece but your options go out the window too. People playing games on PC tend to wait for games to be on sale, or more specifically on Steam because it guarantees our rights of ownership more solidly than the publishers platform. 'The Crew' couldn't happen on Steam... I'm pretty sure valve would sue Microsoft for that. Take a look at GoG Galaxy I think we're in the same place headspace wise and this has been a good reminder that if you don't fight for it with your wallet, they'll take it away.
I've been playing pc games on a TV for 15 years, mouses work absolutely fine on a couch or a bed, better than a reflective desk surface anyway. I get cold feet and back pains when sitting on a chair for too long.
i play on a 4K TV on my couch, too. with a PC. might be astonishing for many, but its possible. Its kinda hard to do, plugin HDMI cable and controller. But im sure you can do it, too. (nobody does that... ) lol... not sure where you have this nonsense from, but okay. Its just confirmation bias to trick yourself in thinking consoles are better than PC by argueing nobody plays chill mode on a couch with controller and a PC... sigh. Cut the video into 20 second instead of 20 min and just say "i like consoles more than PC... period. done" who cares when you bring up weird untrue statements just to comfort your decision to like consoles more somehow. so weird.
Noone hooks pcs up to the tv with a controller? Most the people I know do. I have one hooked up to a tv by my bed. My main rig is on a monitor but that is only because its a super ultrawide (well worth it btw) and all of them have controllers hooked up. I only use m&k if I have no choice, even then I sometimes use custom profiles. PC's leave consoles for dead. I havent used a console since the xbox one s and likely never will again
i've had my pc for about 4 years, and in the last 2, with my newborn son, i couldn't leave my laptop out, its a decent gaming laptop, so i use wireless m&k, hdmi out to tv, and i can cuddle up with my son using controller playing elden ring dlc, dragons dogma, kerbal space program, it really handles like a console running windows. i also hate those pc chairs, the idea of sitting at a table alone, and it really isn't hard to watch video's on netflix, tab over and play baulders gate 3 with a mouse. some games like RTS is nice having a keyboard option. but almost every game supports controllers these days! for me, the biggest downside, is it was about the same price as my series, playstation, and switch put together! but i use it way more now, and if a game is coming out on all 4, i go for the steam version first. often you get the patches first, mod support, don't have to pay for online services. sorry for the book. but as a recent trans console person, i figured i'd tell you, 4 years in, but 2 years maining pc, i could go back, and do, but only for the exclusives. TL; DR if you have the finances, go for it, and set it up on your tv with a beefy laptop. or those gaming cube things. i forget what they are called ATM.
Consoles and PC since childhood here. I still prefer consoles despite the practicality of PC. Every game I am willing to really support I get physical versions for on the console, all others and all online games are on PC. You can get controller support on PC. I dont play with K&M. Have a Gaming Rig and PS hooked to the TV.
Appreciate your thoughts. I have ps1 through ps4 but have switched to pc mostly. My ps3 recently went bad and it sucks that the only option I have to not lose my library of games is to re buy a15 year old ps3. If ps5 had better backwards compatibility for older generations I would’ve never considered pc. I mostly play emulation and games available from GoG drm free. For new games not available there im unsure what I want do yet, if i would rather deal with the devil that is the steam subscriber agreement or get ps5 games, knowing eventually Sony will forgot they exist when newer gen consoles come out.
But PC is easier. Just sit in your couch, grab a controller, press the xbox guide button or playstation guide button to open Steam Big Picture, then press Play on any game you want and just get lost in the game.
My PC is connected to a 4k 75ich TV and I lay back on my recliner with a wireless keyboard and mouse for productivity and wireless gamepad for gaming. It's extremely user friendly, comfortable, convenient and I love the backwards compatibility and forwards compatibility in games. I also love emulators too. You can use any controller you want which is the best part.
My experience: I'm mainly a PC player even when it comes to couch play. But I do enjoy the freedom and no hassle, no stress of console gaming. The real reason being a PC player is game preservation. Which is important. PC goes to any length to preserve all the games, doing everything to keep the entire gaming history alive. I don't lose my libraries between different platforms and generations. Everything will always be there to play even decades later. If I build a new, modern PC, all my library is still on it every time.
I play on couch with my PC at least 80% of the time. Steam even has a TV mode and will map Playstation button icons in the game menus if it supports it. As for contollers PC has the most, I have too many because every console first party is supported.
Oi Mate. its not 2005 its 2024. You're right - I have the same ikea chair, home cinema setup with proper audio, 65# 144hz vrr telly, all connected by 1 piec of 10 meter optical HDMI cable to my PC. Mouse and keyboard on lapdesk for FPS? check (wired or wireless) PS5 and Xbox gamepad support? check (wired or wireless) Wireless headset for online? check Cheaper games, free online, flexibility, more games, better gaming experience (graphics, framerate etc.) check. I also have PS5. Bought it for SONY exclusive game, that one by one are being released on PC. All games now are designed around controler, because all are being released on all platforms. However many plays far better on mouse (rts, strategy, fps, diablo clones). Consoles have killed themselves by not offering unique experience in exclusive game franchises, polished and offering smooth no fuzz fun. Now consoles offer sub par ports of multiplatform games at a premium. Nintendo is the real last console, but hey, just buy steamdeck and you done. That's the last console i bought. A this point it ain't even cheaper.
Imo having both are the best solution, costly yes but necessary for certain flaws between the two. PC is seeing more games demanding to monitor your browser interactions when youre not playing the game, and playing online on consoles is getting pricier because they force bundle it with other services. Im often going between my PC with GOG and steam, PS5 for some newer games that ask those sketchy things, and my switch with its fun exclusives. Not paying for my consoles online though, at least PS5 offers free online weekends which is nicer than nothing. Used to be fully PC but times are changing and we gotta go towards the few pro consumer things we have left.
as an aside 3k is not even close to the 4k mark your thinking of you can spend right around 1k usd and get a system that can run the vast majority of games at 4k 90 fps
maybe im in the minority but all of the family i know hooks theyre towers to theyre tvs and a controller to play games heck i have a shelf mounted to the wall and my tower/router on top of it and my tv in front of it all and i use my controller to do all of my gaming nowadays (when you have a child mouse and keyboard is NOT an option anymore) i even have a big man recliner and cooling pillow to complete the setup
Problem with physical media is that if your house catches fire, guess what all that media is gone, and a house catching fire is a hell of allot more likely than steam ever shutting down, and also if steam does shut down there are fail safes in place to allow you to still buy and access the games you got so that valve can avoid lawsuits, also you really should have done more research on steam, achievements and trading cards are more than just showing off, you can trade and buy in the market for REAL money, you can also use your achievements to upgrade your profile by getting steam cards and creating gem packs, so its more than just "trophies" like on console.
1. Retro console gaming with physical games offline is amazing. 2. Modern PC games with free online multiplayer modes are amazing. 3. Whatever the PS5 and Xbox Series are doing is total garbage.
Firstly I love this subject. You’re not wrong in what you like and how you want to play your games. But I do have some points to make, some of which you touch on. You can pretty much use all console controllers on pc. PC games are too spread out and console games are walled gardens. Is that basically what you said? Because for me that’s actually a huge benefit. Who wants to be in a walled garden and dictated to? Server based games like The Crew will stop working on both physical and digital. One eco system is why I turned my back on console and went to pc. Games on pc will be backwards compatible, which has always been a problem on console. Cost of games on console is a BIG negative for me. PC ports always seem to launch cheaper and keeps reducing in price from there. Having said all this you make some great points for console gaming. For me the speed of launching a console game hands down is a win. Aren’t trophies now on pc? I think Sony flicked that switch recently on Steam. Achievements work on pc game pass. I have a gaming pc, which can obviously do a lot more than a console. Aside from generally browsing and creative apps I like to do emulation and I also have a vr headset. Meta Quest 3 to be more specific. It’s great being able to use the headset as a stand alone but also wireless connect to the pc for a different experience. Essentially it comes down to how people want to play. If you want a vanilla and easy experience then console is the way forward. If you want to customise your experience and leave yourself open to other opportunities then it’s pc. Great video. Sorry for the unstructured rambling. I’m rocking my daughter to sleep and watching/typing on my phone 😂
I miss the days of Rags and Top Hats/Champagne. There is Joe from Seattle, Fritanga, OhNoIt'sAlex, and Klutzy King that do a pretty good job at making fun of console fanboys.
Also, VR gaming. PSVR 2 barely has any of the VR games that I play, and while the psvr2 gets some games, It doesn't get most games. A vr headset for pc can go around 100$ or less used, or 200$ new. while the only supported option you have on console is around 400$+ And alot of the games I play just aren't available on console. simulator games, rts games, games highly dependent on modding like Arma, Squad, Assetto corsa, gmod, gta RP, Age of empires. I would not enjoy gaming nearly as much if I hadn't lived through all those goofy moments on RP servers in those games pretending to do a goofy accent and playing a character in a server of other people trying to do the same thing. Or racing toilets on my racing wheel in VR with other people on a toilet bowl map, Or play a simulator multiplayer Star wars battlefield game through a squad mod Another advantage is if you do your research, and build your own PC, you can get away with saving so much money, a rig with an rtx 3060 will cost you around 650$ and run better than a ps5. Which I mean yeah its more than 500$. but you're excluding the 60$ a year cost for using your own internet. and in the long term you're gonna be saving so much more money. and if you already had a pc, you can transfer all of your storage over, and save even more money. Building a PC is very affordable compared to buying a prebuilt, which are usually scams Also handheld gaming, There's dozens of PC gaming handhelds and I have my own steamdeck, which I just has crossaves with my pc, I buy the game once and I can play both on my PC and my steam deck, and I can switch instantly
@@sirvern7825 You won't regret it. Plus you have access to really host your library of games through emulation. You can also setup retroachievements for old games with the Emuchachievements plugin and having a retroachievements account.
@@sirvern7825 You have no idea how cool it is until you actually try. I own it and I love being able to take my PC games on the go when I travel or go to my friend's house or starbucks to play together online multiplayer
"Come on, nobody does that." ummm says who? You? I use my PC on a 4K LG OLED TV connected via HDMI and I use a Xbox controller for all my games. I never play with mouse and keyboard. You can use controller with almost every game out there. Considering how you are coming from a console, for you specifically, every game you play on PC will have 100% native controller support. The only games that won't have it are games not on console like WOW for example. Clearly, you're not playing that anyway on a PS5. So there is no loss there for you. You have a valid point on trophies. I felt the same way when I switched to PC. But eventually, you just kind of get over it. Also, you learn to appreciate Steam Achievements. But overall, valid point. Physical media. I get what you mean. But let's be honest here. Physical media is all but dead regrettably. Even the physical versions of the games you have do not have the complete game. That is why you have to install day 1 patches on every new game. So you don't own the game as much as you might think you do. "I like to own what I purchase." Yeah we all do. But the reality is you don't. Those physical games behind you do not have the full game. Part of the game is on the disc and the other part is stored digitally in the cloud on Sony servers. Ease of use Fair point. Consoles are meant to be plug and play. They are meant to be for the general non-techy audience out there. So yes, consoles are easier to use and to understand. But just because something is easy, that doesn't mean you should do it. Negatives for consoles - less power - less backwards compatibility - You have to pay to play games online. You do not have to pay to play online on PC. If you care about money, this should matter to you. - Exclusives. If you want exclusives, you now have less and less as Sony is porting more and more games to PC. But you are still missing the exclusives from PC and Xbox. If you have a PC, you get access to PC games, Xbox games, and now some PlayStation games with more incoming. I think you should just try it. Go for you. Give it an honest try for 2 weeks. I think you will be happy.
I have my Rog ally connected to my TV in the basement with my PS5 Contoller connected to it to play Indie /some Triple A games but when I am playing games like Counter Strike 2 I use my gaming PC upstairs on my desk. I like that I can play Emulators on my PC also have it on the go when I travel or go to cousins by using my Rog ally. Steam is also so good .I like Steam a lot because there interface is nice, there return policy is good , they get lots of Sony/Microsoft exclusive games and the best part is it's free they don't charge monthly to use it to play online.
many of your concerns now are futile you can play however you want on pc, many ps5 exclusives are coming to pc and with time those will be the best ports, and there are achivements on steam and other launchers, if you really dont want all those launchers fine stay on console, phisical media i'd say only nintendo is worth it nowadays, pc ease of use has increased, for the mayority of games you can install the game and play with default setting you want a better experience you can tinker the settings, fairness in a game thats a stupid thing to even mention
Ive played since 90s every playstation, xbox, nintendo gen and almoust every gpu gen. I prefer pc for having expensive oled tv for gaming it feel little waste for consoles as the resolution and scaling is not pc level not to mention better fps and rtx. I use mousr and keyboard and ps5 controller. If game have dualsense features on ps5 it work fully on pc too. And with software dualsense work on all games, i play forza games with it and it work in starfield etc. Games are cheaper on pc and there arw many great games not available on ps5/consoles. I really liked the psvr2 but the games are lacking. Maybe i get into pcvr someday. Pc connected to tv and hometheatre is also great media player and versatile all around.
I've never been a '1 camp' kind of guy, I keep my PC upgraded and buy new consoles. But, recently I've found the state of PC gaming to be the worst its ever been. More and more PC titles are being released it horrible states, to the point I've been increasingly picking the console version just because it's a more enjoyable experience
As I say, don't put all your eggs in one basket. Both consoles and PCs have issues that prevent me from really solely stick to one, but if I had to, it would be consoles. I speak as a person who has had 25 years of it being a crapshoot if games on PC work fine or if there is some issue I need to tinker around with. If there is a console game I haven't gotten to, it's because of a backlog. For PC, it's either a backlog or because something happened that kept me from playing it.
Hmm I feel the opposite. A lot of PS games are coming to PC now and the ports have been really good, The Last of Us was an exception but it seems fixed now. Ghost of Tsushima runs great on launch for me, 4K at 120+FPS with HDR on an OLED monitor, it looks stunning. Same with Ratchet and Clank and Uncharted 4 on PC, one of the best 4K HDR 120+FPS gaming experience I have.
The comfort? You do realize you can use a controller with pc? I play with a mouse and keyboard in my recliner. Have been for years, it’s not a new thing.
you still gotta get up sometimes when it doesn't register you have a controller and they make you press enter on the keyboard before letting you use the controller , it can be pretty annoying
@@kingofsayians2224 true 😆 I have a small Logitech wireless keyboard with a trackpad I use for those minor annoyances. I keep a tv dinner tray alongside my recliner to keep all my crap on. I’ve been doing this a long time, probably been pc gaming since before he was born 😆
bro you can connect the pc to the tv and YES ppl DO do that plus you can literally use a controller on pc. steam big picture mode exists FOR THAT REASON. ugh the reasons in this video are non-issues. wtf is the point of this video again?....
I would encourage you to do some research on what PC gaming is like today because much of what you said isn't true anymore and hasn't been for like 10 years. If you just simply like the PS eco-system, physical media, and trophies that's totally fine, but many of the arguments against just simply are not true anymore. Can you plug a PC into a TV and play on the couch? Yes, with your setup since the PC is pretty close you could just run a dual monitor setup. You don't need to tinker if you don't want to, modern games know your setup and the default settings are usually fine. Updates are normally semi automatic like consoles. You like RTS games, well there's a ton of keyboard / mouse options made for using on the couch. You can use your PS5 controller or just about any other controller you want on PC if that's what you want. PC ports are not usually bad, there are bad ones but it's not that common.
I was not expecting my pc to not to have a disk tray after I bought it. Been playing 360 mostly but now if you want to play something new or old youll soon have to buy it again.
I built a SFF PC specifically to play on my large TV. Corsair mouse keyboard combo and a PS5 controller. Nothing like running ALL my games UHD and higher than 60FPS. I have a PS5 for the games that are not available on PC. I def do NOT like having to choose between "performance" and "visual" modes. I want all the frames and all the visuals.
My PS5 is used more for UA-cam than it is for gaming. I highly recommend that if anyone gets a PC. Don't do budget, save yourself a good 2k. And buy premium,it will last longer, and you will get the premium gaming experience. you won't regret it Also, build it yourself, just watch UA-cam videos, do some research and build it yourself. I am an absolute window licker. If I can build mine, in sure you can too 😊😂
As a PC gamer that played on consoles (NES, SNES, PS1, PS2, 360, PS3) from when I was a kid in the early 90s to 2007/8 when I started to transition to PC gaming and never considered going back. I completely agree with all your concerns and points. All your issues with PC gaming are real issues and I wouldn’t try and argue with any of them. The only pros I would have added for PC is game sales are better and aiming with a mouse is more accurate and intuitive (once you get used to it). Good video, I like your style.
The problem I have with PC it's fragmented hardware wise unlike console were everyone is on the same system. Like is your PC ready for console ports, you need to update hardware or build a whole new rig every 4 years. Gpus are ridiculously expensive these days another reason to just chill with a console it just works no need to tinker with nonsense like Windows 10 or Windows 11 or API's or bios or overclocking, undervolting.
Honestly I've been playing games for 23 years since I was old enough all the way back to PS2 I have a GamerScore of 175000+ on Xbox since 2014, Trophies shouldnt hold you back, PC is hands done the best switch I've made I have both Xbox Series and a insane PC on comparison to it. I haven't looked back, don't @ me with physical I have that collection as well, but everything new doesn't release with physical anything that really has the game on it
The thing is, PC can be everything you want it to be. You can use a controller on the majority of games. You can stick to one launcher such as Steam (which I do personally). You can game on your tv if you want. You're not limited by any means. As far as the "tinkering" goes, I've had two games total since I started gaming on pc in 2017 not work for some reason or another, so that's rarely an issue. If you're running older games typically the easiest fix is running them in compatibility mode. All that said, the lack of physical media on pc will definitely detour you. There is now trophy support for PlayStation games on pc, Finally, game quality across the board has dropped massively since the PS2 era. Ever since developers have been able to drop online patches, publishers are rushing games out more and more and having the developers patch it later. The biggest issue on pc is the stupid UE4 shader compilation stutter, which could be prevented mostly if developers added a shader compilation download at the beginning of the game. Still, not enough to detour me from pc though lol. Console is a great price to performance value, but the flexibility that pc offers is what does it for me.
i use to love console, as remember doing ps1-ps2-xbox 360-ps4 then went into pc which is much better to me in long term wise and dont have to worry about pc getting pricey as can run high game with mid parts (as mid pc parts actually go cheaper then then newer consoles are as are better then then console part it seems). issue with console now is it also locks stuff more behined a paywall also which pc doesnt do also im not even using newest graphic card like im still on rx radeon 6600 and runs games like elden ring with high quality at solid 60 frames second which is nice. Also most players use controller for games on pc, like i use xbox controller mostly 95% time i find its less majority which use mouse/keyboard as main for pc gaming.
This "most people don't hook PC on tvs" is so dumb. So what if YOU do? What anyone else has to do it with it? Look too nerdy? Well, having a lot of games and consoles on display is not hot either, way less I would argue. A nice, robust black case without lights is as manly this can get. Controllers can be used without cables for ages. Mouses and keyboards too, for those moments where you may need to insert passwords etc. PCs dont need to be shutdown and even then, wouldnt take more than one minute from boot to start a game if on a SSD. Trophies are just JPGs. You can store your entire playthroughs on UA-cam, Twitch, your drives etc. Bugs, drivers etc are mostly a non-problem if your PC is not old as F*. Even pirates don't have headaches. ANd best of all: PC is a live platform. It's constantly evolving its capabilities. New functions, New software, New emulators, New peripherals. New everything, thanks to it openess. Even if a guy just want to play games on it, he will have more than 90% of EVERYTHING VIDEOGAME RELATED EVER ON A SINGLE DEVICE. It's on a whole another level. You guys need to actually experience what is PC gaming on 2024, mostly of your assumptions would fall hard on the ground.
comfortable gaming console < real gaming pc easy fps unlock from 30 on ps5 xbox series x a console gamer will never understand real 4k real 1440p at 300 fps sad reality we live in
Listen, you are not at all up to date with what is happening in the PC gaming world, all the shortcomings you mentioned about the PC no longer exist, BRO we are in 2024 not 1990... driver update can be done automatically in the background double click the mouse and play I don't understand what you are talking about at all? Obviously if you want to get the best optimization out of your graphics card then you can play at infinite settings, of course if you want. One more thing, it's really not true that there are no problems on the consoles, you probably forgot quickly what happened to the CP2077 game on the consoles. Playing on the couch is really unhealthy! And there is nothing that will prevent you from continuing to play on the couch with a PS5 gamepad on the PC even though there is no substitute for a mechanical keyboard and a gaming mouse! Even games that require a gamepad, I enjoy it more on a keyboard and mouse, in any case the PC does not limit you, choose what is convenient for you. I also don't understand why you want everyone to have the same hardware and gaming experience? It's like asking why all the people in the world have to have the same car? Don't you want choice, competition, variety? In terms of price, the console costs more than $500 if you include the online payment and the more expensive games from the PC. A gaming PC can also be assembled for $1000 that will give a much better gaming experience than PS5. Bottom line, today a gamer has nothing to look for on PS5 because Sony currently has no games at all for the future, only third party... sad but that's the truth. One last thing, mods how is it possible without mods in games it breathes more life into games.
BRO... PC gaming is 3rd rate 3rd world trash. If you're into gaming maybe get yourself a real gaming system. Unless you're on the spectrum playing truck driving sims and MMOS... Then by all means stick with your PC. 😂😂😂
I have a secondary computer hooked up to my TV for retro games but even it can play some triple A games pretty solidly. From my couch. I can also cast my primary PC to my TV and play from my couch. I use Razer Cortex to put all my games in one place and it gives me a great graphical interface. It's free, as well, though you can buy fancier setups. I save money on games and I can always use them. No matter what computer I use, I've got the games there
Pc will always beat out consoles.... why because they are just nerfed versions of pc 😂 That not mentioning on pc you have full control of all your hardware and software. You can use literally any controller on pc but alot of people use mouse is because it's waaay more accurate for fps than a controller would ever be. Yet you can still just plug in a controller n it works immediately without having to do anything. It auto reads not matter the brand or console it came from.
i love pc and prob wont switch to any console i used to love console pc eliteism aside console and pc are both awesome if i had not seen the graphical power and modding power for pc i think i would still prob be on console. the framerate was what made me switch lol. both platforms are awesome. consoles are becoming more and more less reasonable
I built a PC and hooked it up to my living room TV.
I have mine hooked up to a 70 inch 4k hdr samsung tv and it's mind blowing! No lag no screen tearing no input problems, only thing is I'm limited to 60 hz. Why would you use a monitor? Giant screen all the way, PC MASTER RACE ALL THE WAY!
Try all you want, your PC will never be as good as a console for gaming. 😂😂
If it means anything, I've been gaming on PC for 10 years now and I've constantly played with a controller from my sofa.
same, laptop plugged in to tv. wireless m&k. child can cuddle up next to me. i was console gamer all my life, but last 4 years, i now mainly purchase on pc. you always have it, and steam controller settings work well with almost any controller!
I just built my first PC and play on my tv from my couch with a controller as well. Works great no problems here.
I have a second monitor wall mounted over my bed for cozy PC gaming, if Microsoft was smart they'd invest more into windows gaming, I'd like the ability to boot my PC with my controller
Works fine as long as you don’t play fps because on PC it’s rarely native controller support but instead emulated kbm
@WeightlessFlex I play plenty of FPS on a controller lol. Now some older games have no controller support, MW2, MW3, Dead Rising 1 and 2, Devil May Cry 1-3.
What really annoys me is games we grew up playing split screen have no split screen option on PC. Left 4 Dead, early CoD, Borderlands etc.
And we don’t pay $60 a year for cloud saves and the ability to use the internet you already pay for.
Very good point! Plus PS plus recently went up in price. No Bueno.
Except microsoft wants to change that
o sure 20$ now anyone els remember 360 membership
Yeah but on PC there's rampant Hackers and Modders.
@@Big_Yin if you say so
ever since i’ve moved to PC. games have been cheaper by going to various key shops. i collect all types of controllers now instead of physical media.
Another example of a poor 3rd world foreigner on PC. 🤡🌍
Being a 90s kid I grew up with a PC in the house. I switched to PC from Xbox years ago. I didn't like paying to use the internet I already pay for. And trying to use the internet browser on console was a nightmare. The learning curve is there. But in my opinion it's worth it. I'll never go back to a console. You don't have to go overboard with a pc to have a great experience. Take your time pick what you want to meet your needs. Most of all gaming is all about the fun. Whatever platform you have the most fun with that is the answer.
1:57 I can assure you people do hook up there PC to there TV, I'm one of them. If you connect game controllers to your PC as well it's like being on a console.
Yup, same.
Every person I have helped move to PC had this same stupid argument. I guess they have never heard of big picture mode. YOU DONT NEED TO SIT AT A DESK, I use a tv as a second monitor with all wireless peripherals.
I dont get why people keep saying you cant play on tv with pc. It works the same as a console. Its total nonsense. Plus some tv's are better than a lot of monitors
Plus if you use an xbox controller ALL recent games already have the buttons mapped
I play on a tv and it’s honestly great, I just got a mini keyboard and mouse on my coffee table and use it when I need to switch games and use controller
A single eco system is why you're paying for online and you games cost more. A pc can be built for as cheap or as expensive as you want.
My pc is hooked up to my tv in my living room and I use an Xbox controller. Every game Ive played has all the buttons already mapped for it.
Just because people don't hook the PC to the TV you still CAN do it just like a console.
You can connect a pc to a tv it's 2024 not 1990
I play a lot of games on my PC but typically will buy long single-player games on my PS5. Good balance for me both are fantastic at what they do and serve their own purpose.
I switched to pc and haven't regretted it. I have My main rig and a steam deck for most of my indies. This has simplified my decision to play on one ecosystem. Having to choose which system to play on was kind of annoying me since all games, for the most part, run better on my rig, so I didn't see the reason to game on my PS5. I know not everyone has this luxury, but ultimately it's so much nicer.
@@christianorsi6487 I love that there are way more Indies on Steam as well. Another huge plus.
I play almost exclusively on Steam, no issues there about the games being spread out with me. They have a large catalog and most anything you will want or need. I just don't bother with other store fronts because I like everything to be together. I know what you are saying though, but I think if you do make the leap, you will likely neglect the other store fronts too. They are just there, some use them, and some have a few things Steam won't have, but it is few. You make a lot of really good points, sometimes I miss consoles. My pc is a bit dated and can't play a lot of newer games now, not to mention I have worn out and bought keyboards and mice, it gets pricey. Once I adapted to pc though, I never really looked back. I love older consoles ps3 and down, but the modern console experience does little to draw me in, still a lot of love for consoles, especially Nintendo with the Switch being a unique exception. Ask around with your console friends and chances are they may have delved into pc already too, if you need them to play with. I totally understand that, I mostly an independent player, untied to others, but I would have a hard time disconnecting from players I know, etc. Learning keyboard and mouse is a small barrier that gets easy to get used to fast. Actually I am so used to it that I struggle anytime I try to use a controller now, even on the Steam Deck, my thumbs just are not able to handle the analog sticks as well now. Anyways good luck, and enjoy whatever path you go. Game on and keep on keeping the debate Zen, some people can't and that is a shame.
I think it’s important to bring up that just because nobody does something doesn’t mean you can’t. Get a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse just to control the pc from your couch. A tv lunch stand is great for it to rest on, then just use steam big picture. Big picture mode is essentially the same as the steam deck. Steam input allows for you to custom bind anything to a controller so you can actually play more games on a controller on pc than console. I’m not sure if you knew this but you can launch non steam games from steam if you really wanted to.
Even before the start of the video, I bet myself the comfort on couch vs monitor and desk would come up. It's not the 2000's anymore, plus your PS5 is taking up as much real estate as a tower pc would. And the controller argument isn't worth discussion when blue-tooth is always an option. Just know, these arguments always fall to the wayside in the end. I sometimes think it's some kind of personalized guilt trip for some for red-pilling the console space and breaking orbit. Once the console shackles come off, the realization of the true freedom of gaming becomes clear.
I play pc on my tv with a controller all the time. I never use a keyboard and mouse if it can use a controller. The official xbox adapter supports 4 controllers with the one adaptor and its more stable than blutooth. You can use steam big picture or playnite or launchbox for the full screen interface with a controller. Theres display fusion which is what i use for swapping between the monitor or the tv in the office or the living room tv which are all connected directly. Also if you want to own things theres gog and piracy lol. I pirate games i buy so i have a drm free copy thats also portable. Any drm free game that is installed is totally portable other than the save files which have to be manually transferred but the game still creates new saves automatically if you copied it to a new machine. PC is its own thing and it can be made to do about anything.
i really dont care about this channels opinion that no one uses a tv and controller ... but may i ask you want pc game is not better with a mouse/kb? tell me some of your favs.
@@fujisan-zu4nd its not about playing with the most skill or accuracy for me. I play for relaxation and comfort. I find the controller more couch/relax friendly.
@@danpatrick7176 know all that, i wanted a game that is designed for the controller.
@@fujisan-zu4nd oh ok. I'm in the minority because as I said I play most everything on a controller. But the ones that are flat out better on a controller imo are any platformers/racing/character action games(Playstation ports etc)/puzzle games like Terri's effect/vr games/most Japanese developed games like the various role playing games. Games that most would agree are better on b/m are fps/stretegy/rts/point and click games. I still play most single player fps games on controller but thats just me.
@@danpatrick7176 so you can name tetris ...and that is it...but it is a classic for sure. i dont even think the russian knew what a mouse was back then.
Why are you discrediting playing PC on a TV or lean on others not doing it when saying that's what they want? You know the solution to your problem but are actively rejecting it. I personally do play PC on a couch in my game room on a TV. I am replying to your video right now on said couch on said tv from my PC.
You would be VERY surprised how many people play PC with a controller on their couch lol. Or they stream games from their PC via steam link to their TV and play on their high spec PC remotely in the living room.
I have a Nvidia shield and I use Moonlight client and sunshine server on my PC and playnite to put all my games under one interface and it has been fantastic I hook my controller to my Nvidia Shield then boot up moonlight that can take me straight to playnite and start playing my PC games just like I'm on a console
I'm Gen X, my first console was pong, I've had a lot of other consoles after that and moved to PC after PS1. A few months ago I retired my 11 year old gaming rig and it still had better specs than a PS5. With shopping smart and upgrading gradually i kept it alive for cheap. I could reuse my GPU in my new rig and am safe for the next 6-7 years with lots of room for improvement to keep it alive after that. When I'm interested in a game I put it on wishlist and buy when its on sale, I spend maybe 200-300$ a year on games and got a massive backlog in my library. I got GTA 5 for 15$ and RDR 2 for 30$, I played the Switch port of RDR 1 in an emulator in 1440p and 60fps. At least half of my playtime is on Indiegems not available on consoles, not to mention the modding scene. I also use the PC for photo-, audio- and videoediting and manage my musiclibrary. With all the money I don't have to spend on subscriptions, overprized games and new consoles I could easily afford a PS 5 controller, a massive beanbag and a beamer. Actual consoles are underspeced and overprized PCs and their OSes are designed to wall you in and rip you off. Move to PC, you won't regret it
Holy cow gramps!
Buying a PC in 2018 changed my mindset on everything, I then went down the linux rabbithole in 2021 and realized that consoles are just locked down cucked PCs.
The death of the console cannot come soon enough.
Noooooo! You may be right.
Its genuinely in our best interest as PC players for consoles to not die so don't hope for that. Lol
@@Giliver they are anti consumer and promote locked down ecosystems (technological slavery).
Hey that's nice of you to taking a step and going to try a new frontier, PC gaming is not per fect it has it's own problem. But now the community is stronger than ever almost any problem is solve either by community or the dev in a really short time frame. It might be hard at first but when you get comfortable with it, it really easy to setup multiple way to play games.
For example you wanna play from the couch no problem controller support is there hdmi 2.1 is already on most new gpu except for the lowest end. you want to connect a third party controller to match your game like a flight controller that's good too. Or if your game have couch co-op like older game, Steam have these amazing feature that allowed you to do that with your buddy across the world.
One thing I like to point out is the cost of getting into PC gaming, Yes it's expensive when you see PC enthusiast throw around $1000 like it's nothing. But actually you can start way lower with a nice budget build now that there is DLSS and FSR upscaling 4k 120hz are more accessible than ever. something like amd 7800xt or 4070ti super is a nice investment and absolutely future proof.
There are many many more scenario and way to enjoy PC game. like for me I can remote my PC from my IPAD to download a game even before I arrived at home(or if I'm too lazy I remote just to change youtube video when I'm on my bed 2 meter away LOL).
But hey console has it's own advantage and I would love for more people to love gaming and not a platform. For now I stick with my Indies game on Steam which is cheap and a lot of fun to play with.
Thanks for the comment! I would probably play controller with some games but I really wanna learn to use mouse and keyboard proficiently too.and Indies are the best! I made a game and published it on Steam called Banished Sir. Check it out! Haha
i get your points and that leap to pc can be quite overwhelming and even scary to some degree especially if you consider the time and investment in the hobby itself so that jump shouldn't be underestimated. I switched to pc at the end of the xbox one/ps4 lifecycle around a year before the xbox series and ps5 came out. Have been playing on console since i was 5 and am 26 now so around 16 years of only console experience but i personally am very happy with the switch to pc. I got a pc that is a bit stronger than the current gen consoles for 1440p ultrawide gaming so i did keep my ps4 and series s when i got my pc but i couldn't use them properly since i have also gotten a ultrawide monitor so i eventually switched over completely. I was hooked to the extra amount of screen space and i have a hard time going back to 16:9 at this point (my monitor is 21:9).
Controller support is essentially the same as console.. so basically any game that you can play on console with a controller (with the exception of exclusives of course) will also support controller on pc and to a certain degree a pc like the steam deck can basically emulate a controller into any game even if doesn't support controller.. Quite fascinating since i got my steam deck oled at the beginning of this year and it might be a good way to get into pc gaming without losing your comfort if you don't have a comfortable pc gaming setup yet. I don't think a full on switch is necessary so don't go all in afterall pc gaming is not for everyone even though people come up with this pc master race crap and it being "the best way to experience games" and yes to a degree that might be true due to it's almost limitless nature but unfortunately that also takes away from the comfort of not worrying too much about tech, upgrades and so on.. complexity and options doesn't necessary make life easier and sometimes it's just nice to not care and worry too much about it.
don't do it just mod your consoles - PC has very high maintenance and compatibility issues with OS - Consoles keeps it simple to play video games by turning it on and playing the game with controller in hand. The experience will never be the same turning on a PC login closing emails and notifications etc and boot up a game through steam or epic games etc. Consoles are easier to organise gaming nights and friends can bring their controllers over and have a great time playing your favourite games - if a PC costs $3000 just imagine the amount of games you could buy with that money. - Consoles removes having shitting windows running in the back ground - consoles is more family friendly nothing beats having your son or daughter playing a console game together more memories
Interesting take!
@@sirvern7825 thanks man and welcome to the dad club - I have a daughter she's 4 years old and she love playing video game with me. Nothing will beat seeing your children play Mario 64 or Super Mario World on snes. You have an amazing setup for your children to play while you sit in that big bean bag with a beer in Hand and watch them play games.
@@GameRelated I can't wait!
I've been making sure to game on GoG Galaxy. The games run better, and if you want to copy it on a USB to another system, you can do that.
You'll litterally free to do what you did back in the 90's.
I find the debate "PC vs Console" to be useless. They're options, for different needs, that's it. It's not about "what's better" (spoilers: nowadays they both suck). If you want convenience, you get a console. It's cheaper, it's great for kids, you plug it in and that's it. If you want a more powerful rig, that squeeze the shit out of your games, and if you want to tinker with your games, you get a PC.
Or at least, IT WAS like this, before both consoles and PC started requiring access to the internet, day one patches, incomplete files on discs or no discs at all. These are the real problems, not keyboards, controllers, achievements and chairs used. Today, you can use a controller or a mouse+ keyboards on both, PC and console. I know a lot of people that hook up their PC's to a TV (they use it just for gaming and movies). You didn't find a lot of kids that were playing on a PC, 30 years ago. Kids used to play on consoles. A console was way cheaper than a brand new PC, and more child-friendly (didn't have an internet connection and most games were toned down as far as mature content goes). It was also great for family and friends to sit on the couch and have some fun.
PC's, on the other hand, were for another audience entirely. They were more expensive, those who bought them, used them primarily for working and less for gaming. Also, PC games were for a more mature audience, you could access the internet (I still believe that's a bad thing for children), and required you to sit in fron of a desk. Have you seen 2 people cramped around a keyboard, trying to play something (Mortal Kombat 4 comes to mind) ? Wasn't fun. Of course, LAN gaming became a thing eventually, but that was years later, but that required for you to either have more than one PC in your house, or having cables dangling to your neighbours.
Best comment on this video, totally unbiased and a lot of great points. I play a lot of games on PC but save the big budget single player games for the PlayStation.
I don't think your exactly qualified to discuss the pros and cons here. Your offering opinions and judgments on PC gaming that you don't have firsthand experience with. Some of the Cons you brought up regarding PC are true and i do agree with, but some things you mentioned are completely wrong and its obvious you don't have firsthand experience with gaming on pc and your only relying on observation and secondhand information.
I think you should buy a gaming PC, use it for a few months, and give us an update video. You can still game on PC on your big screen TV while chilling on your beanbag with a ps5 controller.
False. I own 16 consoles and a gaming PC. Thanks for stopping by tho!
@@sirvern7825 You talking about the rig you got 7 years ago with only 2 gig Vram!? You need to treat yourself and get a real gaming PC. New GPUs are are expected to release close to the end of this year or early 2025 and that will be a good time to buy. You can upgrade that 2 gig Vram to 24 gig Vram.
@@sirvern7825That still doesn't make you qualified to judge the quality of both lmao. The fact is that the PC is the superior option and will always stay this way no matter the preference.
I keep a pirated version of any of the games I own on pc, when possibile. I'm not 100% sure is that useful but storage is cheap and compact so it doesn't bother me too much.
I like your style!
depending on the game it can be quite needless, unless you're playing some of the more niche or hard to pirate stuff there will almost always be copies to download online.
Not that i'm saying you shouldn't, i can imagine it's quite nice having access to dozens or hundreds of games at a whim.
I never understood the whole couch vs setup thing, me personally I like having a setup playing on a couch feels lazy I hate playing on a big tv especially for competitive games. Learning a keyboard is very easy it’s really not that hard to learn. Also I hate when consoles guys say “ohh to play older games on pc they never work or they’re troubleshooting” involved in actuality it’s pretty easy to get older games to work on windows 11/10 it’s called PC wiki and mods if you don’t know how to use a operating system in 2024 that’s a you problem. And I hate when consoles guys come up with these imaginary prices on pcs not every pc cost over 2,000 dollars. Also you can use PlayStation controllers on none support games with DS4 windows.
You know that you can use every controller on Pc you even have a choice what controller you like.
@@bp-it3ve That is really cool and definitely a plus for PC gaming. Thanks for the comment!
At this circumstances where exclusive almost dissapeared, PC is the most sensible and logical choice as the long term investment. Also PC for me isnt about flexing specs but enjoying your setup. My PC isnt the most powerful ,but playing games in 1080p even the latest one are as smooth as butter with more than 60 FPS achievable. My nephew even only plays at 768p television on his PC and he is probably much more happier PC gamer than me (because he is still in college and have all time in the world to play..lol... While someone like us with responsibility, one or two hour a day of uninterrupted play session is a bless )
People overcomplicate this because they think you need multiple platforms still. Nowadays one is fine. Back in the day you almost had to have the latest Playstation or Xbox and even the Sega and Nintendo consoles for the latest exclusive games. They are all basically the same now with just a few differences. Gaming is about having fun imo, and it's really hard to do that when you have to stress over having all these different platforms. BTW i like PC, Xbox and Playstation still, but i am done trying to have all of them lol.
Plenty of people couch game on their PC’s, I did it exclusively for years and used a lap desk setup for shooters. These days I have my desk below my TV so I can easily swap over depending on what I’m playing.
I built my pc and I only use controller 🤷🏽♂️ I like having control over my graphics, and almost every game uses controller. But I do miss trophies, I have a feeling PlayStation is making there own launcher
@@kivincifilms3904 I hope so, that would be awesome!
I switch back and forth from PS and PC but I can’t leave my plats behind
I'm going to be the same! They matter to me.
My number 1 reason for switching from my PS3 to PC back in 2013 because I wanted to use the mouse and keyboard for games, and the PS4 was underwhelming spec-wise (we waited 7-8 years to finally go from 720p to 1080p, but the PS4 still struggles at 900p a lot of the time). I did bought a PS5 just for 4K HDR Blu-Ray and streaming but there is no reason for me to go back to playing games on a console anymore (apart from Persona Dancing games which is still exclusively on PlayStation).
Well PC support most controllers,Xbox controllers are the official PC controller since windows XP and PS5/PS4 controllers are supported . playstation games have trophy and most games that was on Xbox have Xbox achievements on PC.and one last thing,PC have emulation.
Good points!
I game on PC because I don't see the need for a console these days. Years back I'd always have both but the Xbox 360 and PS3 era was the last time I felt the consoles were unique.
Xbox GamePass means I can play every new Xbox release and Sony might take two years but even their games are coming to the PC now. I have a low end PC connected to my TV just as a GamePass system, it's essentially an Xbox.
When consoles gave up the put in a game and play aspect, they just became hardware locked PCs.
Good point! I guess might be wrong about not many people not having PCs hooked up to a TV!
Nintendo is the only console company I'll buy from now personally.
I pretty much exclusively use it for party games when I go to a friend's/families house.
@@Giliver But you can run all Nintendo Switch exclusive games on your PC / TV and SteamDeck for portability. It's a better value than a Switch console currently
The biggest deal breaker for consoles to me is having pay to play games online. I really feel like the subscription services from the consoles are huge scams
New consoles not being able to play all my old games gets frustrating as well.
Recently got a Steam Deck and am now working to build my own PC. I love not having to pay to play online and having all my old PC games from 2011 while being able to build that library up again for really cheap. No more consoles for me!
(I have tbe Xbox 360, Wii, Xbox One X, 3DS, Switch, and now Steam Deck)
I agree that is a huge negative for consoles. It's ridiculous to have to pay $80 a year just to play online. I mostly play single player stuff.
My console collection was just getting to big. I've gone to PC and keep around a few of my all time favorite consoles to collect for.
I play my PC on my TV, which also has my consoles hooked up to it. Before this current setup I had 4 screens, 2 for my PC and 1 HDTV for my modern consoles and 1 CRT for retro consoles. I wanted to simplify my setup and streamline it, sold a lot of my retro stuff that didn't get much play, that I can and sometimes do emulate on my PC with better graphics and framerates, and I got an OLED TV and a monster gaming PC. One screen now, feels a lot smoother. Games that need a controller, or games that I just like better with a controller, I can and still do it.
IMO, go to PC, or at least get a rig that's MORE powerful than a PS5/Xbox Series X. If your PC isn't going to outclass the consoles, its not worth it, unless you play some specific genres that are just better on PC like RTS or MMO or w/e else.
Also, get an OLED TV if you don't have one.
Made this comment about after 8 minutes of watching, I also have a large physical collection. I miss big box PC games, I actually started getting some of my favorite PC games from Ebay just to have them on my shelf. Games like Command and Conquer, Starcraft, Bioshock etc. Very few games still even have a case you can get, usually just the AAA games like Elden Ring and CyberPunk 2077 and even then its just a download code inside the box.
I say yes and no to getting a system more powerful than the consoles. while its nice to have, it isn't necessary. For example, a 3060 is just a little weaker than the PS5, however due to a lot of games having a locked framerate on console, the 3060 will pull ahead in framerate. Most console games also don't have to option to turn off dynamic resolution scaling. spiderman 2 in performance mode for example, the resolution is as high as 1440p, but can drop as low as 900p to maintain a certain framerate. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it does result in worse image quality versus playing on a 3060 at 1080p or 1440p. the resolution will never change if u dont want it to. with console you dont have that option, at least for the 60fps mode.
Then you have access to DLSS which is superior A.I. upscaling to the console's own upscaling technique, and DLAA which is better than typical TAA found on consoles. this all further increases image quality over consoles, even on a 3060 which is objectively a little weaker than consoles. So there's benefits to even getting a weaker PC than the consoles. Also important to remember that you not only have access to PS5 games, but Series X and switch games if you want to emulate them. on top of older consoles, Steam, GOG and etc. so PC will have far more access to games than any one console will have too.
It is a deliberate tactical move on the part of publishers to make PC a second class citizen. They do this so they can milk their cash cow of console gamers first, before going to the more discerning group that is PC gamers.
Console players are killed with conveniece but your options go out the window too. People playing games on PC tend to wait for games to be on sale, or more specifically on Steam because it guarantees our rights of ownership more solidly than the publishers platform. 'The Crew' couldn't happen on Steam... I'm pretty sure valve would sue Microsoft for that.
Take a look at GoG Galaxy I think we're in the same place headspace wise and this has been a good reminder that if you don't fight for it with your wallet, they'll take it away.
I've been playing pc games on a TV for 15 years, mouses work absolutely fine on a couch or a bed, better than a reflective desk surface anyway. I get cold feet and back pains when sitting on a chair for too long.
i play on a 4K TV on my couch, too. with a PC. might be astonishing for many, but its possible. Its kinda hard to do, plugin HDMI cable and controller. But im sure you can do it, too. (nobody does that... ) lol... not sure where you have this nonsense from, but okay. Its just confirmation bias to trick yourself in thinking consoles are better than PC by argueing nobody plays chill mode on a couch with controller and a PC... sigh. Cut the video into 20 second instead of 20 min and just say "i like consoles more than PC... period. done" who cares when you bring up weird untrue statements just to comfort your decision to like consoles more somehow. so weird.
Noone hooks pcs up to the tv with a controller? Most the people I know do. I have one hooked up to a tv by my bed. My main rig is on a monitor but that is only because its a super ultrawide (well worth it btw) and all of them have controllers hooked up. I only use m&k if I have no choice, even then I sometimes use custom profiles. PC's leave consoles for dead. I havent used a console since the xbox one s and likely never will again
i've had my pc for about 4 years, and in the last 2, with my newborn son, i couldn't leave my laptop out, its a decent gaming laptop, so i use wireless m&k, hdmi out to tv, and i can cuddle up with my son using controller playing elden ring dlc, dragons dogma, kerbal space program, it really handles like a console running windows. i also hate those pc chairs, the idea of sitting at a table alone, and it really isn't hard to watch video's on netflix, tab over and play baulders gate 3 with a mouse. some games like RTS is nice having a keyboard option. but almost every game supports controllers these days! for me, the biggest downside, is it was about the same price as my series, playstation, and switch put together! but i use it way more now, and if a game is coming out on all 4, i go for the steam version first. often you get the patches first, mod support, don't have to pay for online services. sorry for the book. but as a recent trans console person, i figured i'd tell you, 4 years in, but 2 years maining pc, i could go back, and do, but only for the exclusives.
TL; DR if you have the finances, go for it, and set it up on your tv with a beefy laptop. or those gaming cube things. i forget what they are called ATM.
Consoles and PC since childhood here. I still prefer consoles despite the practicality of PC. Every game I am willing to really support I get physical versions for on the console, all others and all online games are on PC. You can get controller support on PC. I dont play with K&M.
Have a Gaming Rig and PS hooked to the TV.
Yay! Another console fan haha
Appreciate your thoughts. I have ps1 through ps4 but have switched to pc mostly. My ps3 recently went bad and it sucks that the only option I have to not lose my library of games is to re buy a15 year old ps3. If ps5 had better backwards compatibility for older generations I would’ve never considered pc. I mostly play emulation and games available from GoG drm free. For new games not available there im unsure what I want do yet, if i would rather deal with the devil that is the steam subscriber agreement or get ps5 games, knowing eventually Sony will forgot they exist when newer gen consoles come out.
I will buy GOG games first before any other PC platform. DRM free is super important to me!
you are so right about console gaming and the couch its just so comfy pop in the game sit back and chill and get lost in the game
But PC is easier. Just sit in your couch, grab a controller, press the xbox guide button or playstation guide button to open Steam Big Picture, then press Play on any game you want and just get lost in the game.
My PC is connected to a 4k 75ich TV and I lay back on my recliner with a wireless keyboard and mouse for productivity and wireless gamepad for gaming. It's extremely user friendly, comfortable, convenient and I love the backwards compatibility and forwards compatibility in games. I also love emulators too. You can use any controller you want which is the best part.
My experience: I'm mainly a PC player even when it comes to couch play. But I do enjoy the freedom and no hassle, no stress of console gaming. The real reason being a PC player is game preservation. Which is important. PC goes to any length to preserve all the games, doing everything to keep the entire gaming history alive. I don't lose my libraries between different platforms and generations. Everything will always be there to play even decades later. If I build a new, modern PC, all my library is still on it every time.
Absolutely. I love when you go back to older titles with newer hardware and they run silky smooth.
I play on a PC with a very good chair and desk all fine tuned for the best posture. I maintain better posture at my desk vs my couch.
you actually aim better slumped way down in your bucket chair.
I play on couch with my PC at least 80% of the time. Steam even has a TV mode and will map Playstation button icons in the game menus if it supports it. As for contollers PC has the most, I have too many because every console first party is supported.
Oi Mate. its not 2005 its 2024.
You're right - I have the same ikea chair, home cinema setup with proper audio, 65# 144hz vrr telly, all connected by 1 piec of 10 meter optical HDMI cable to my PC.
Mouse and keyboard on lapdesk for FPS? check (wired or wireless)
PS5 and Xbox gamepad support? check (wired or wireless)
Wireless headset for online? check
Cheaper games, free online, flexibility, more games, better gaming experience (graphics, framerate etc.) check.
I also have PS5. Bought it for SONY exclusive game, that one by one are being released on PC. All games now are designed around controler, because all are being released on all platforms. However many plays far better on mouse (rts, strategy, fps, diablo clones).
Consoles have killed themselves by not offering unique experience in exclusive game franchises, polished and offering smooth no fuzz fun.
Now consoles offer sub par ports of multiplatform games at a premium. Nintendo is the real last console, but hey, just buy steamdeck and you done.
That's the last console i bought. A this point it ain't even cheaper.
Still have my consoles, sold my xbox series x but kept PS5. Have a PC with a 4080 I Just picked up for $700. Been playing PC more.
Imo having both are the best solution, costly yes but necessary for certain flaws between the two. PC is seeing more games demanding to monitor your browser interactions when youre not playing the game, and playing online on consoles is getting pricier because they force bundle it with other services. Im often going between my PC with GOG and steam, PS5 for some newer games that ask those sketchy things, and my switch with its fun exclusives. Not paying for my consoles online though, at least PS5 offers free online weekends which is nicer than nothing. Used to be fully PC but times are changing and we gotta go towards the few pro consumer things we have left.
as an aside 3k is not even close to the 4k mark your thinking of you can spend right around 1k usd and get a system that can run the vast majority of games at 4k 90 fps
maybe im in the minority but all of the family i know hooks theyre towers to theyre tvs and a controller to play games
heck i have a shelf mounted to the wall and my tower/router on top of it and my tv in front of it all and i use my controller to do all of my gaming nowadays (when you have a child mouse and keyboard is NOT an option anymore) i even have a big man recliner and cooling pillow to complete the setup
I seriously had no idea so many people did that but I understand! I just had a baby 6 months ago.
@@sirvern7825 just wait til they start using u as a human jungle gym itll be almost impossible to beat any kind of boss that way lol
Problem with physical media is that if your house catches fire, guess what all that media is gone, and a house catching fire is a hell of allot more likely than steam ever shutting down, and also if steam does shut down there are fail safes in place to allow you to still buy and access the games you got so that valve can avoid lawsuits, also you really should have done more research on steam, achievements and trading cards are more than just showing off, you can trade and buy in the market for REAL money, you can also use your achievements to upgrade your profile by getting steam cards and creating gem packs, so its more than just "trophies" like on console.
1. Retro console gaming with physical games offline is amazing.
2. Modern PC games with free online multiplayer modes are amazing.
3. Whatever the PS5 and Xbox Series are doing is total garbage.
Firstly I love this subject. You’re not wrong in what you like and how you want to play your games. But I do have some points to make, some of which you touch on.
You can pretty much use all console controllers on pc.
PC games are too spread out and console games are walled gardens. Is that basically what you said? Because for me that’s actually a huge benefit. Who wants to be in a walled garden and dictated to?
Server based games like The Crew will stop working on both physical and digital.
One eco system is why I turned my back on console and went to pc. Games on pc will be backwards compatible, which has always been a problem on console.
Cost of games on console is a BIG negative for me. PC ports always seem to launch cheaper and keeps reducing in price from there.
Having said all this you make some great points for console gaming. For me the speed of launching a console game hands down is a win.
Aren’t trophies now on pc? I think Sony flicked that switch recently on Steam. Achievements work on pc game pass.
I have a gaming pc, which can obviously do a lot more than a console. Aside from generally browsing and creative apps I like to do emulation and I also have a vr headset. Meta Quest 3 to be more specific. It’s great being able to use the headset as a stand alone but also wireless connect to the pc for a different experience.
Essentially it comes down to how people want to play. If you want a vanilla and easy experience then console is the way forward. If you want to customise your experience and leave yourself open to other opportunities then it’s pc.
Great video. Sorry for the unstructured rambling. I’m rocking my daughter to sleep and watching/typing on my phone 😂
Love your points! The point about cheaper games on PC is 100% true. Thanks for the comment!
I can't believe these specimens still exist, what is this 2015? Where's Rags?
I miss the days of Rags and Top Hats/Champagne. There is Joe from Seattle, Fritanga, OhNoIt'sAlex, and Klutzy King that do a pretty good job at making fun of console fanboys.
@@mynameismud-qd9vu oh man, Bullet Barry too, those were the days🙌
Also, VR gaming. PSVR 2 barely has any of the VR games that I play, and while the psvr2 gets some games, It doesn't get most games.
A vr headset for pc can go around 100$ or less used, or 200$ new. while the only supported option you have on console is around 400$+
And alot of the games I play just aren't available on console. simulator games, rts games, games highly dependent on modding like Arma, Squad, Assetto corsa, gmod, gta RP, Age of empires.
I would not enjoy gaming nearly as much if I hadn't lived through all those goofy moments on RP servers in those games pretending to do a goofy accent and playing a character in a server of other people trying to do the same thing. Or racing toilets on my racing wheel in VR with other people on a toilet bowl map, Or play a simulator multiplayer Star wars battlefield game through a squad mod
Another advantage is if you do your research, and build your own PC, you can get away with saving so much money, a rig with an rtx 3060 will cost you around 650$ and run better than a ps5. Which I mean yeah its more than 500$. but you're excluding the 60$ a year cost for using your own internet. and in the long term you're gonna be saving so much more money. and if you already had a pc, you can transfer all of your storage over, and save even more money.
Building a PC is very affordable compared to buying a prebuilt, which are usually scams
Also handheld gaming, There's dozens of PC gaming handhelds and I have my own steamdeck, which I just has crossaves with my pc, I buy the game once and I can play both on my PC and my steam deck, and I can switch instantly
Please consider getting a steam deck chief. Since getting one it has reinvigorated my passion for gaming and my time with it.
They do look really cool! I may do that.
@@sirvern7825 You won't regret it. Plus you have access to really host your library of games through emulation. You can also setup retroachievements for old games with the Emuchachievements plugin and having a retroachievements account.
@@sirvern7825 You have no idea how cool it is until you actually try. I own it and I love being able to take my PC games on the go when I travel or go to my friend's house or starbucks to play together online multiplayer
"Come on, nobody does that." ummm says who? You? I use my PC on a 4K LG OLED TV connected via HDMI and I use a Xbox controller for all my games. I never play with mouse and keyboard. You can use controller with almost every game out there. Considering how you are coming from a console, for you specifically, every game you play on PC will have 100% native controller support. The only games that won't have it are games not on console like WOW for example. Clearly, you're not playing that anyway on a PS5. So there is no loss there for you.
You have a valid point on trophies. I felt the same way when I switched to PC. But eventually, you just kind of get over it. Also, you learn to appreciate Steam Achievements. But overall, valid point.
Physical media. I get what you mean. But let's be honest here. Physical media is all but dead regrettably. Even the physical versions of the games you have do not have the complete game. That is why you have to install day 1 patches on every new game. So you don't own the game as much as you might think you do. "I like to own what I purchase." Yeah we all do. But the reality is you don't. Those physical games behind you do not have the full game. Part of the game is on the disc and the other part is stored digitally in the cloud on Sony servers.
Ease of use
Fair point. Consoles are meant to be plug and play. They are meant to be for the general non-techy audience out there. So yes, consoles are easier to use and to understand. But just because something is easy, that doesn't mean you should do it.
Negatives for consoles
- less power
- less backwards compatibility
- You have to pay to play games online. You do not have to pay to play online on PC. If you care about money, this should matter to you.
- Exclusives. If you want exclusives, you now have less and less as Sony is porting more and more games to PC. But you are still missing the exclusives from PC and Xbox. If you have a PC, you get access to PC games, Xbox games, and now some PlayStation games with more incoming.
I think you should just try it. Go for you. Give it an honest try for 2 weeks. I think you will be happy.
Thanks for the comment! You have a bunch of good points!
I went from console to PC and still use a controller, just can't get used to it.
I have my Rog ally connected to my TV in the basement with my PS5 Contoller connected to it to play Indie /some Triple A games but when I am playing games like Counter Strike 2 I use my gaming PC upstairs on my desk. I like that I can play Emulators on my PC also have it on the go when I travel or go to cousins by using my Rog ally. Steam is also so good .I like Steam a lot because there interface is nice, there return policy is good , they get lots of Sony/Microsoft exclusive games and the best part is it's free they don't charge monthly to use it to play online.
many of your concerns now are futile you can play however you want on pc, many ps5 exclusives are coming to pc and with time those will be the best ports, and there are achivements on steam and other launchers, if you really dont want all those launchers fine stay on console, phisical media i'd say only nintendo is worth it nowadays, pc ease of use has increased, for the mayority of games you can install the game and play with default setting you want a better experience you can tinker the settings, fairness in a game thats a stupid thing to even mention
Ive played since 90s every playstation, xbox, nintendo gen and almoust every gpu gen. I prefer pc for having expensive oled tv for gaming it feel little waste for consoles as the resolution and scaling is not pc level not to mention better fps and rtx. I use mousr and keyboard and ps5 controller. If game have dualsense features on ps5 it work fully on pc too. And with software dualsense work on all games, i play forza games with it and it work in starfield etc. Games are cheaper on pc and there arw many great games not available on ps5/consoles. I really liked the psvr2 but the games are lacking. Maybe i get into pcvr someday. Pc connected to tv and hometheatre is also great media player and versatile all around.
I didn't know dualsense functionality worked on PC. That's pretty sweet!
well why not both?
Exactly, you can just have both.
I've never been a '1 camp' kind of guy, I keep my PC upgraded and buy new consoles. But, recently I've found the state of PC gaming to be the worst its ever been. More and more PC titles are being released it horrible states, to the point I've been increasingly picking the console version just because it's a more enjoyable experience
As I say, don't put all your eggs in one basket. Both consoles and PCs have issues that prevent me from really solely stick to one, but if I had to, it would be consoles.
I speak as a person who has had 25 years of it being a crapshoot if games on PC work fine or if there is some issue I need to tinker around with. If there is a console game I haven't gotten to, it's because of a backlog. For PC, it's either a backlog or because something happened that kept me from playing it.
Hmm I feel the opposite. A lot of PS games are coming to PC now and the ports have been really good, The Last of Us was an exception but it seems fixed now. Ghost of Tsushima runs great on launch for me, 4K at 120+FPS with HDR on an OLED monitor, it looks stunning. Same with Ratchet and Clank and Uncharted 4 on PC, one of the best 4K HDR 120+FPS gaming experience I have.
The comfort? You do realize you can use a controller with pc? I play with a mouse and keyboard in my recliner. Have been for years, it’s not a new thing.
you still gotta get up sometimes when it doesn't register you have a controller and they make you press enter on the keyboard before letting you use the controller , it can be pretty annoying
@@kingofsayians2224 true 😆 I have a small Logitech wireless keyboard with a trackpad I use for those minor annoyances. I keep a tv dinner tray alongside my recliner to keep all my crap on. I’ve been doing this a long time, probably been pc gaming since before he was born 😆
bro you can connect the pc to the tv and YES ppl DO do that plus you can literally use a controller on pc. steam big picture mode exists FOR THAT REASON. ugh the reasons in this video are non-issues. wtf is the point of this video again?....
I would encourage you to do some research on what PC gaming is like today because much of what you said isn't true anymore and hasn't been for like 10 years. If you just simply like the PS eco-system, physical media, and trophies that's totally fine, but many of the arguments against just simply are not true anymore. Can you plug a PC into a TV and play on the couch? Yes, with your setup since the PC is pretty close you could just run a dual monitor setup. You don't need to tinker if you don't want to, modern games know your setup and the default settings are usually fine. Updates are normally semi automatic like consoles. You like RTS games, well there's a ton of keyboard / mouse options made for using on the couch. You can use your PS5 controller or just about any other controller you want on PC if that's what you want. PC ports are not usually bad, there are bad ones but it's not that common.
I was not expecting my pc to not to have a disk tray after I bought it. Been playing 360 mostly but now if you want to play something new or old youll soon have to buy it again.
I did that, then I switched to PS5 from PC. I just prefer console gaming.
I built a SFF PC specifically to play on my large TV. Corsair mouse keyboard combo and a PS5 controller. Nothing like running ALL my games UHD and higher than 60FPS. I have a PS5 for the games that are not available on PC. I def do NOT like having to choose between "performance" and "visual" modes. I want all the frames and all the visuals.
and you can build a great gaming PC for $850 I don't know why console gamers always say 3k you don't need the top of the line cpu or gpu
That's 850 without mouse keyboard and monitor. Lol
My PS5 is used more for UA-cam than it is for gaming.
I highly recommend that if anyone gets a PC. Don't do budget, save yourself a good 2k. And buy premium,it will last longer, and you will get the premium gaming experience. you won't regret it
Also, build it yourself, just watch UA-cam videos, do some research and build it yourself.
I am an absolute window licker. If I can build mine, in sure you can too 😊😂
As a PC gamer that played on consoles (NES, SNES, PS1, PS2, 360, PS3) from when I was a kid in the early 90s to 2007/8 when I started to transition to PC gaming and never considered going back.
I completely agree with all your concerns and points.
All your issues with PC gaming are real issues and I wouldn’t try and argue with any of them.
The only pros I would have added for PC is game sales are better and aiming with a mouse is more accurate and intuitive (once you get used to it).
Good video, I like your style.
Thanks! One day my goal is to get good with mouse and keyboard.
On PC you also have emulators for most consoles from different generations.
Good point!
yeah i have pokemmo which is fun online multiplayer pokemon game to do also very easy to set up.
The problem I have with PC it's fragmented hardware wise unlike console were everyone is on the same system.
Like is your PC ready for console ports, you need to update hardware or build a whole new rig every 4 years.
Gpus are ridiculously expensive these days another reason to just chill with a console it just works no need to tinker with nonsense like Windows 10 or Windows 11 or API's or bios or overclocking, undervolting.
Honestly I've been playing games for 23 years since I was old enough all the way back to PS2 I have a GamerScore of 175000+ on Xbox since 2014, Trophies shouldnt hold you back, PC is hands done the best switch I've made I have both Xbox Series and a insane PC on comparison to it. I haven't looked back, don't @ me with physical I have that collection as well, but everything new doesn't release with physical anything that really has the game on it
The thing is, PC can be everything you want it to be. You can use a controller on the majority of games. You can stick to one launcher such as Steam (which I do personally). You can game on your tv if you want. You're not limited by any means. As far as the "tinkering" goes, I've had two games total since I started gaming on pc in 2017 not work for some reason or another, so that's rarely an issue. If you're running older games typically the easiest fix is running them in compatibility mode.
All that said, the lack of physical media on pc will definitely detour you. There is now trophy support for PlayStation games on pc, Finally, game quality across the board has dropped massively since the PS2 era. Ever since developers have been able to drop online patches, publishers are rushing games out more and more and having the developers patch it later. The biggest issue on pc is the stupid UE4 shader compilation stutter, which could be prevented mostly if developers added a shader compilation download at the beginning of the game. Still, not enough to detour me from pc though lol. Console is a great price to performance value, but the flexibility that pc offers is what does it for me.
@@mynameismud-qd9vu great points! I think the PS5 will be my last console. I'll be building a PC in the near future 😀. Stay tuned!
PC hooked up to LG OLED, wireless keyboard & mouse, Xbox controller - perfect
i use to love console, as remember doing ps1-ps2-xbox 360-ps4 then went into pc which is much better to me in long term wise and dont have to worry about pc getting pricey as can run high game with mid parts (as mid pc parts actually go cheaper then then newer consoles are as are better then then console part it seems). issue with console now is it also locks stuff more behined a paywall also which pc doesnt do also im not even using newest graphic card like im still on rx radeon 6600 and runs games like elden ring with high quality at solid 60 frames second which is nice. Also most players use controller for games on pc, like i use xbox controller mostly 95% time i find its less majority which use mouse/keyboard as main for pc gaming.
escape the console matrix before its to late us pc gamer want better for ypu and its okay to adapt and grow
It's not a choice really. One can have both
I'm not going to lie, I like my PC but I miss playing on a sofa and a big screen
plug a cable into the tv, grab controller. done, now your pc gaming on the couch with a big screen.
do all that ^ and turn on steam big picture.
tada console experience
This "most people don't hook PC on tvs" is so dumb. So what if YOU do? What anyone else has to do it with it? Look too nerdy? Well, having a lot of games and consoles on display is not hot either, way less I would argue. A nice, robust black case without lights is as manly this can get.
Controllers can be used without cables for ages. Mouses and keyboards too, for those moments where you may need to insert passwords etc. PCs dont need to be shutdown and even then, wouldnt take more than one minute from boot to start a game if on a SSD.
Trophies are just JPGs. You can store your entire playthroughs on UA-cam, Twitch, your drives etc.
Bugs, drivers etc are mostly a non-problem if your PC is not old as F*. Even pirates don't have headaches.
ANd best of all: PC is a live platform. It's constantly evolving its capabilities. New functions, New software, New emulators, New peripherals. New everything, thanks to it openess. Even if a guy just want to play games on it, he will have more than 90% of EVERYTHING VIDEOGAME RELATED EVER ON A SINGLE DEVICE.
It's on a whole another level. You guys need to actually experience what is PC gaming on 2024, mostly of your assumptions would fall hard on the ground.
Good points!
comfortable gaming console < real gaming pc easy fps unlock from 30 on ps5 xbox series x a console gamer will never understand real 4k real 1440p at 300 fps sad reality we live in
Listen, you are not at all up to date with what is happening in the PC gaming world, all the shortcomings you mentioned about the PC no longer exist, BRO we are in 2024 not 1990... driver update can be done automatically in the background double click the mouse and play I don't understand what you are talking about at all? Obviously if you want to get the best optimization out of your graphics card then you can play at infinite settings, of course if you want. One more thing, it's really not true that there are no problems on the consoles, you probably forgot quickly what happened to the CP2077 game on the consoles. Playing on the couch is really unhealthy! And there is nothing that will prevent you from continuing to play on the couch with a PS5 gamepad on the PC even though there is no substitute for a mechanical keyboard and a gaming mouse! Even games that require a gamepad, I enjoy it more on a keyboard and mouse, in any case the PC does not limit you, choose what is convenient for you. I also don't understand why you want everyone to have the same hardware and gaming experience? It's like asking why all the people in the world have to have the same car? Don't you want choice, competition, variety?
In terms of price, the console costs more than $500 if you include the online payment and the more expensive games from the PC. A gaming PC can also be assembled for $1000 that will give a much better gaming experience than PS5.
Bottom line, today a gamer has nothing to look for on PS5 because Sony currently has no games at all for the future, only third party... sad but that's the truth. One last thing, mods how is it possible without mods in games it breathes more life into games.
BRO... PC gaming is 3rd rate 3rd world trash. If you're into gaming maybe get yourself a real gaming system.
Unless you're on the spectrum playing truck driving sims and MMOS... Then by all means stick with your PC. 😂😂😂
I'm excited to give it a shot! Currently playing with different builds
I have a secondary computer hooked up to my TV for retro games but even it can play some triple A games pretty solidly. From my couch.
I can also cast my primary PC to my TV and play from my couch.
I use Razer Cortex to put all my games in one place and it gives me a great graphical interface. It's free, as well, though you can buy fancier setups.
I save money on games and I can always use them. No matter what computer I use, I've got the games there
Don't forget the SteamDeck too.
@@DreamyAbaddon yup. Handheld gaming is on the rise.
hope joefromseattle doesnt see this that guy is pro pc i swear...
I 100% have a computer hooked up to my tv and control it with a dual sense …
Pc will always beat out consoles.... why because they are just nerfed versions of pc 😂
That not mentioning on pc you have full control of all your hardware and software. You can use literally any controller on pc but alot of people use mouse is because it's waaay more accurate for fps than a controller would ever be. Yet you can still just plug in a controller n it works immediately without having to do anything. It auto reads not matter the brand or console it came from.
PC is just god tier
i love pc and prob wont switch to any console i used to love console pc eliteism aside console and pc are both awesome if i had not seen the graphical power and modding power for pc i think i would still prob be on console. the framerate was what made me switch lol. both platforms are awesome. consoles are becoming more and more less reasonable
spiderman 2 oh nah < Balder gate 3 game of the year sony ponys scrambling for there 30 fps milk
Steam achievements
use a display port better than that hdmi shit
yes console will always be there , but as time goes by the console population will definitely shrink.