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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • Six MPs have put themselves forward to be the next leader of the Conservative party. Suella Braverman pulled out of the race at the last minute, with speculation that she could join the Reform party. Has the membership shifted to the centre following an exodus to Reform UK? And which candidates appeal to the left, and which to the right of the party? The Spectator's Assistant editor Cindy Yu speaks to political editor Katy Balls and Stephen Bush, from the Financial Times.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 117

  • @peterdockerty8077
    @peterdockerty8077 Місяць тому +33

    One nation candidate if becomes leader will see the demise of the party for good. Also watch out for defectors to Reform

  • @jdg9999
    @jdg9999 Місяць тому +36

    The fact that Tory leadership candisates have to "pretend to actually be right wing" says a lot about what the Tory party actually is.

    • @khar12d8
      @khar12d8 Місяць тому

      Well, a lot of "right wing" stuff is genuinely moronic. So if you're intelligent it is hard to be right wing. Hence why some right wing ideas are so popular with people with lower levels of education.

    • @stevenwilliamson6236
      @stevenwilliamson6236 Місяць тому

      The ironically named right.

    • @humanbeing4841
      @humanbeing4841 Місяць тому

      @@khar12d8 Left-wing ideology is moronic, the modern right-wing is the heart of common sense.

  • @Elizabeth-jd3mn
    @Elizabeth-jd3mn Місяць тому +18

    Nobody.
    Reform UK.

  • @judithdavidson2356
    @judithdavidson2356 Місяць тому +5

    Ask those who previously supported the Tories. The candidates are truly appalling.

  • @Benzknees
    @Benzknees Місяць тому +5

    Kier Starmer & Rachel Reeve are doing a pretty good job of saving the Tories.

  • @61shirley
    @61shirley Місяць тому +17

    What Tory party? Are they still a thing?, we ignore them now

    • @firmbutton6485
      @firmbutton6485 Місяць тому +1

      Not for long, soon you be desperate for them again.

    • @importantjohn
      @importantjohn Місяць тому

      25% of the country voted for them

  • @cypresse1620
    @cypresse1620 Місяць тому +7

    Simple: none of them.

  • @wtheo7188
    @wtheo7188 Місяць тому +10

    Why's that bloke got a dressing gown on?

    • @SepulchreBrit
      @SepulchreBrit Місяць тому +3

      He writes for the FT - it’s part of the euro remainaic fashun de rigeur

    • @niknikmoore
      @niknikmoore Місяць тому

      IMHO It is good to have people as guests who are good communicators whilst not suited in boring blue or black.

    • @SepulchreBrit
      @SepulchreBrit Місяць тому +1

      @@niknikmoore yeh fair enough it was quite striking !

  • @seanpidduck
    @seanpidduck Місяць тому +1

    Praying they elect a one nation phoney.
    The "centre left of the tory party" shouldnt even exist!

  • @leehallam9365
    @leehallam9365 Місяць тому +4

    It's fascinating to hear this description of the motivations of MPs in leadership votes. Greeting cards, election intakes, hurt feelings, friendships! Are they really the right people to choose a leader? Labour MPs not voting for Healy got them Foot!

  • @niknikmoore
    @niknikmoore Місяць тому +2

    In your FAB Truss interview - Fraser Nelson said LDI's would be your next interview / investigation - whatever happened on that subject? Love The Spectator output.

  • @rhysellis928
    @rhysellis928 Місяць тому +2

    The Tories are fixing the wrong problem. There shouldn't be a leadership contest. They should implement a temporary leader, an 'interim', until the party knows what they stand for. This needs to be an internal debate that includes the members, local councillors and parliamentary members. The situation is worse than 1997. The party has prided on being 'broad church', but it lost its right wing voters to Reform and its liberal voters to left wing party's. Winning them both back is going to be immeasurably difficult, maybe impossible.

  • @SepulchreBrit
    @SepulchreBrit 9 днів тому

    “there are times in the life history of a party, as of a society, when a generation of leaders that has been hopelessly compromised has to disappear and when this necessity is in no way to be avoided” Enoch Powell

  • @williamvorkosigan5151
    @williamvorkosigan5151 Місяць тому +1

    The MPs offered the Party Membership useless, no borders, Sunak and useless, no borders, Truss. Then when the Party Members made the "wrong choice" they simply put Sunak in power. There is a decided democratic deficit with the modern Concretive Party.

  • @khar12d8
    @khar12d8 Місяць тому +1

    Reform and traditional conservatism are not the same thing. To me, centre right conservatism is wildly different to populist rightism. So the Conservatives have to abandon the Reform vote and go back to being the party of polite middle England.

  • @azar1354
    @azar1354 Місяць тому +5

    Cleverly and Tugenhadt don't have anything to say really. They're political low weights. Cleverly is just there without doing anything. He has a BA in Hospitality Management.
    Tugenhadt has degrees in Theology and Islamic Studies.
    The competition is between Kemi and Jenrick.

  • @alessiocortez6520
    @alessiocortez6520 Місяць тому +1

    Step 1: Select wettest, most 1-nation non-entity possible
    Step 2: Zero Seats 2029
    Step 3: Profit

  • @markhayward7400
    @markhayward7400 Місяць тому

    Who can save the Tory party? The answer is 'no-one'.

  • @judithdavidson2356
    @judithdavidson2356 Місяць тому +2

    There isn’t one for whom I would vote. All ghastly, vacuous and totally self interested

  • @m.p.7075
    @m.p.7075 21 день тому

    Like collecting the survivors of the titanic to pick the captain for the next trip.

  • @Floortile
    @Floortile Місяць тому +4

    The are all awful, I’m afraid

  • @horseman6468
    @horseman6468 Місяць тому +1

    I don't care, anyone who puts UK and the British people first would get my vote. As opposed to the traitor Starmer.

  • @eddavis1832
    @eddavis1832 Місяць тому +9

    Is it even worth saving?!!!

  • @bobjones3573
    @bobjones3573 Місяць тому

    Seems to be a whole heap of obsessive compulsive people stuck in the same rut.

  • @doctorcrankyflaps1724
    @doctorcrankyflaps1724 Місяць тому +9

    Why should anyone give a fudge about the Tories now?

  • @stuartweston9978
    @stuartweston9978 Місяць тому +1

    Still more concerned with the party than the country

  • @williamvorkosigan5151
    @williamvorkosigan5151 Місяць тому +1

    When did "One Nation" become no boarders and importing discord into our nation? I would have described myself as a One Nation Conservatives 20 years ago. Now I have little time for those currently described as, One Nation Tory MPs.

    • @alphabetaomega265
      @alphabetaomega265 Місяць тому +1

      Perhaps it’s less them who changed, but you who changed more?
      Or at least to a stronger extent. After all even the one nation tories moved to the right. 30 years ago all the one nation tories supported the Maastricht Treaty, EU membership and EU integration. Nowadays, they don’t even claim to want to be close to the EU.

  • @stevesmith3990
    @stevesmith3990 Місяць тому +1

    I think they will come back from the dead, its a question of how long it takes them to be Conservative again and maybe an alliance of sorts with Reform is the only way to get rid of Labour in 2029 which by then we will really need to do - if not sooner.

  • @wordfromabove7176
    @wordfromabove7176 Місяць тому

    It’s all light weights running for leader. Tories are done for at least 10 years

  • @paulm8501
    @paulm8501 Місяць тому

    Liz Truss was first elected in 2010.

  • @tonysherwood9619
    @tonysherwood9619 Місяць тому

    What tory party?....emptyed the coffers and trashed britain and our queen had to witness it!

  • @MrJudgementday99
    @MrJudgementday99 Місяць тому +1

    Hmmmmn, firstly I don’t think any of this is the important question the Tories need to answer.
    The first and most important question should be what do conservatives stand for. With the last government it seemed just to be about staying in government and not doing the conservative things they should be doing, get rid of woke, smaller government, stop inward migration more importantly legal migration and rung the economy. I do think the latter was the hardest part because the civil service and the BoE seemed to be happy to destroy the economy just to ensure the Tories lost.
    The second question is over the next 5 years how do the Tories try to win back the Reform voters, I suspect any bi-election will go Reform way in all but the safest Tory and Labour seats, if Reform run their party correctly and don’t swing too far to the right.
    Of these lot the only one I see strong enough to cope with all the wets is Kemi. Too many people dislike Priti although for me she could do a great job. As for the rest if one of them gets in you may as well just switch off the lights.
    I once was on a yacht club committee, one of the former commodores said to me, there is a time to talk and gain agreement and there are times when you need a dictator, this is one of those times for the Tories

  • @robinfox6088
    @robinfox6088 Місяць тому +1

    KB covers the bases. Original perspectives from SB. Keep it up.

  • @nickgood8166
    @nickgood8166 Місяць тому

    I'm not sure what country 'One nation' Tories are routing for but it's not The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

  • @peterrobinson6091
    @peterrobinson6091 Місяць тому

    I'd bet on Kemi winning, Suella is only other one that said/did anything worthwhile - even so, i hope they struggle for a long time to pay for how useless they were.

  • @sunny96789
    @sunny96789 Місяць тому +1

    Kemi will win it eventually

  • @samuelston
    @samuelston Місяць тому

    No doubt the membership will yet again pick the wrong person…….

  • @derekrushton1705
    @derekrushton1705 Місяць тому +2

    Priti Patel has spent the last 12 months travellin' around the Country, ingratiatin' herself with grassroot Party members. Absolutely nothing to do with her leadership bid, whatsoever. That would be seen as showing gross disloyalty & border line treachery to PM Sunak. Enormous asset's in a politician. Step forward, Dame Patel, new Conservative Party Leader.

  • @truth121
    @truth121 Місяць тому +3

    No one it's finished

  • @asimwaheed8201
    @asimwaheed8201 Місяць тому +5

    Do not underestimate the Tory Party. They always come back to power.

    • @paulcarter4945
      @paulcarter4945 Місяць тому +1

      they now don't understand britain

    • @firmbutton6485
      @firmbutton6485 Місяць тому +1

      In less than 5 years i bet.

    • @asimwaheed8201
      @asimwaheed8201 Місяць тому

      @@firmbutton6485 I would say 5 to 7. But thanks for the input.

  • @ciarancrowley2516
    @ciarancrowley2516 Місяць тому

    Spoilt for choice.

  • @williamsnowden8186
    @williamsnowden8186 Місяць тому

    Oh dear, yet another London luvvies love in at the Spectator. Why don't you occasionally mix it up with someone like Matt Goodwin or even the Spectator's Asstant Editor(?) Douglas Murray. That would be good.

  • @odiedodieuk
    @odiedodieuk Місяць тому

    0 seats 4 life

  • @user-rt8yo3hm8f
    @user-rt8yo3hm8f Місяць тому

    None of the above

  • @alko_xo
    @alko_xo Місяць тому

    Trump can do this.
    First of all - he also speaks English…

  • @Toglos
    @Toglos Місяць тому

    No-one you know.

  • @sallyhenderson9159
    @sallyhenderson9159 Місяць тому

    Stephen, Katy, Cindy - dream team! Start a podcast!

    • @davidcole8268
      @davidcole8268 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah but where’s James Forsyth when you need him?

  • @AnonymousBosch
    @AnonymousBosch Місяць тому +1

    As a now Reform voter, I hope they pick anyone but Priti ( and possibly Kemi ).

  • @exiled2home
    @exiled2home Місяць тому

    Badenoch?

  • @wordfromabove7176
    @wordfromabove7176 Місяць тому

    Tories are such a small party now. It’s probably a 15 year road back

  • @paulcarter4945
    @paulcarter4945 Місяць тому

    none of them

  • @Geo65582
    @Geo65582 Місяць тому +2

    Is it a race to save white children or to the bank

  • @michaelfarrow3914
    @michaelfarrow3914 Місяць тому

    A none conservative tory party-Groan

  • @columbus7950
    @columbus7950 Місяць тому

    No one can save the Conservative Party until they acknowledge that we are inextricably linked to the EU. Good luck.

  • @KimThomas-vp4vm
    @KimThomas-vp4vm Місяць тому +1

    None of them.

  • @tinydancer2607
    @tinydancer2607 Місяць тому

    There is no relevance to this conversation because it does not (even) matter. Any candidate to the (“Left”) is a death knell for the Tories (Conservatives in name only). Katy clearly is one of them and I look forward to seeing how she cringes and swivels and becomes uncomfortable as that candidate remains deeply unpopular. Farage all of the way 👍🏼

  • @misteroz
    @misteroz Місяць тому

    I’ve retained my party membership in the hope that something might be salvaged from the wreckage of Cameronism - but realistically if anyone but Jenrick wins, I’m calling it a day.

  • @tomk8729
    @tomk8729 Місяць тому

    Love your jacket, Stephen! I think you are wrong though about all Reform-minded Tories having left. There are quite a few of us hanging in there - I personally voted Reform (my Tory MP lost by 700 votes in a seat where Reform scored 7000). Saddened but unsurprised in the analysis the consensus that the Reform vote is all but irrelevant. Typical Tory wet/metropolitan complacency and if scaled up will doom the Tories entirely.

  • @Red__Law
    @Red__Law Місяць тому +1

    Could. Not. Care. Less.

  • @TheBluegems
    @TheBluegems Місяць тому +1

    No one is better than Rishi Sunak

    • @01rancid10
      @01rancid10 Місяць тому

      You mean it would be better to have no one than Rishi Sunak.

  • @SepulchreBrit
    @SepulchreBrit Місяць тому

    I mean it’s Robert Jenrick - discussion over

  • @LLLLLLLLLucas
    @LLLLLLLLLucas Місяць тому

    Vote Reform

  • @kevinrobb86
    @kevinrobb86 Місяць тому +2

    God himself wont save this party they are done and its time they realised that

  • @markhutton6055
    @markhutton6055 Місяць тому

    Truss was their last chance.

    • @user-gf5qm9no8q
      @user-gf5qm9no8q Місяць тому

      😅😅😅😅😅

    • @AnonymousBosch
      @AnonymousBosch Місяць тому

      @@user-gf5qm9no8qLaugh, but he’s right and the election results partially prove it. They needed to hold their non-traditional Tory vote and they lost it and then some.

  • @scottpeter5704
    @scottpeter5704 Місяць тому

    Who cares? theyre finished

  • @allancrotch2953
    @allancrotch2953 Місяць тому

    OK Steve you win the bet.

  • @judithdavidson2356
    @judithdavidson2356 Місяць тому

    Ask those who previously supported the Tories. The candidates are truly appalling.