Tory leadership race: who are the contenders? | SpectatorTV
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Six MPs have put themselves forward to be the next leader of the Conservative party. Suella Braverman pulled out of the race at the last minute, with speculation that she could join the Reform party. Has the membership shifted to the centre following an exodus to Reform UK? And which candidates appeal to the left, and which to the right of the party? The Spectator's Assistant editor Cindy Yu speaks to political editor Katy Balls and Stephen Bush, from the Financial Times.
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One nation candidate if becomes leader will see the demise of the party for good. Also watch out for defectors to Reform
The fact that Tory leadership candisates have to "pretend to actually be right wing" says a lot about what the Tory party actually is.
Well, a lot of "right wing" stuff is genuinely moronic. So if you're intelligent it is hard to be right wing. Hence why some right wing ideas are so popular with people with lower levels of education.
The ironically named right.
@@khar12d8 Left-wing ideology is moronic, the modern right-wing is the heart of common sense.
Nobody.
Reform UK.
Ask those who previously supported the Tories. The candidates are truly appalling.
Kier Starmer & Rachel Reeve are doing a pretty good job of saving the Tories.
What Tory party? Are they still a thing?, we ignore them now
Not for long, soon you be desperate for them again.
25% of the country voted for them
Simple: none of them.
Why's that bloke got a dressing gown on?
He writes for the FT - it’s part of the euro remainaic fashun de rigeur
IMHO It is good to have people as guests who are good communicators whilst not suited in boring blue or black.
@@niknikmoore yeh fair enough it was quite striking !
Praying they elect a one nation phoney.
The "centre left of the tory party" shouldnt even exist!
It's fascinating to hear this description of the motivations of MPs in leadership votes. Greeting cards, election intakes, hurt feelings, friendships! Are they really the right people to choose a leader? Labour MPs not voting for Healy got them Foot!
An excellent leader.
In your FAB Truss interview - Fraser Nelson said LDI's would be your next interview / investigation - whatever happened on that subject? Love The Spectator output.
The Tories are fixing the wrong problem. There shouldn't be a leadership contest. They should implement a temporary leader, an 'interim', until the party knows what they stand for. This needs to be an internal debate that includes the members, local councillors and parliamentary members. The situation is worse than 1997. The party has prided on being 'broad church', but it lost its right wing voters to Reform and its liberal voters to left wing party's. Winning them both back is going to be immeasurably difficult, maybe impossible.
“there are times in the life history of a party, as of a society, when a generation of leaders that has been hopelessly compromised has to disappear and when this necessity is in no way to be avoided” Enoch Powell
The MPs offered the Party Membership useless, no borders, Sunak and useless, no borders, Truss. Then when the Party Members made the "wrong choice" they simply put Sunak in power. There is a decided democratic deficit with the modern Concretive Party.
Reform and traditional conservatism are not the same thing. To me, centre right conservatism is wildly different to populist rightism. So the Conservatives have to abandon the Reform vote and go back to being the party of polite middle England.
Cleverly and Tugenhadt don't have anything to say really. They're political low weights. Cleverly is just there without doing anything. He has a BA in Hospitality Management.
Tugenhadt has degrees in Theology and Islamic Studies.
The competition is between Kemi and Jenrick.
Step 1: Select wettest, most 1-nation non-entity possible
Step 2: Zero Seats 2029
Step 3: Profit
Who can save the Tory party? The answer is 'no-one'.
There isn’t one for whom I would vote. All ghastly, vacuous and totally self interested
Like collecting the survivors of the titanic to pick the captain for the next trip.
The are all awful, I’m afraid
I don't care, anyone who puts UK and the British people first would get my vote. As opposed to the traitor Starmer.
Is it even worth saving?!!!
Seems to be a whole heap of obsessive compulsive people stuck in the same rut.
Why should anyone give a fudge about the Tories now?
You prefer an autocracy?
Still more concerned with the party than the country
When did "One Nation" become no boarders and importing discord into our nation? I would have described myself as a One Nation Conservatives 20 years ago. Now I have little time for those currently described as, One Nation Tory MPs.
Perhaps it’s less them who changed, but you who changed more?
Or at least to a stronger extent. After all even the one nation tories moved to the right. 30 years ago all the one nation tories supported the Maastricht Treaty, EU membership and EU integration. Nowadays, they don’t even claim to want to be close to the EU.
I think they will come back from the dead, its a question of how long it takes them to be Conservative again and maybe an alliance of sorts with Reform is the only way to get rid of Labour in 2029 which by then we will really need to do - if not sooner.
It’s all light weights running for leader. Tories are done for at least 10 years
Liz Truss was first elected in 2010.
What tory party?....emptyed the coffers and trashed britain and our queen had to witness it!
Hmmmmn, firstly I don’t think any of this is the important question the Tories need to answer.
The first and most important question should be what do conservatives stand for. With the last government it seemed just to be about staying in government and not doing the conservative things they should be doing, get rid of woke, smaller government, stop inward migration more importantly legal migration and rung the economy. I do think the latter was the hardest part because the civil service and the BoE seemed to be happy to destroy the economy just to ensure the Tories lost.
The second question is over the next 5 years how do the Tories try to win back the Reform voters, I suspect any bi-election will go Reform way in all but the safest Tory and Labour seats, if Reform run their party correctly and don’t swing too far to the right.
Of these lot the only one I see strong enough to cope with all the wets is Kemi. Too many people dislike Priti although for me she could do a great job. As for the rest if one of them gets in you may as well just switch off the lights.
I once was on a yacht club committee, one of the former commodores said to me, there is a time to talk and gain agreement and there are times when you need a dictator, this is one of those times for the Tories
God help us all. Time to leave the country
KB covers the bases. Original perspectives from SB. Keep it up.
I'm not sure what country 'One nation' Tories are routing for but it's not The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
I'd bet on Kemi winning, Suella is only other one that said/did anything worthwhile - even so, i hope they struggle for a long time to pay for how useless they were.
Kemi will win it eventually
No doubt the membership will yet again pick the wrong person…….
Priti Patel has spent the last 12 months travellin' around the Country, ingratiatin' herself with grassroot Party members. Absolutely nothing to do with her leadership bid, whatsoever. That would be seen as showing gross disloyalty & border line treachery to PM Sunak. Enormous asset's in a politician. Step forward, Dame Patel, new Conservative Party Leader.
No one it's finished
Do not underestimate the Tory Party. They always come back to power.
they now don't understand britain
In less than 5 years i bet.
@@firmbutton6485 I would say 5 to 7. But thanks for the input.
Spoilt for choice.
Oh dear, yet another London luvvies love in at the Spectator. Why don't you occasionally mix it up with someone like Matt Goodwin or even the Spectator's Asstant Editor(?) Douglas Murray. That would be good.
0 seats 4 life
None of the above
Trump can do this.
First of all - he also speaks English…
No-one you know.
Stephen, Katy, Cindy - dream team! Start a podcast!
Yeah but where’s James Forsyth when you need him?
As a now Reform voter, I hope they pick anyone but Priti ( and possibly Kemi ).
Badenoch?
Tories are such a small party now. It’s probably a 15 year road back
none of them
Is it a race to save white children or to the bank
A none conservative tory party-Groan
No one can save the Conservative Party until they acknowledge that we are inextricably linked to the EU. Good luck.
None of them.
There is no relevance to this conversation because it does not (even) matter. Any candidate to the (“Left”) is a death knell for the Tories (Conservatives in name only). Katy clearly is one of them and I look forward to seeing how she cringes and swivels and becomes uncomfortable as that candidate remains deeply unpopular. Farage all of the way 👍🏼
I’ve retained my party membership in the hope that something might be salvaged from the wreckage of Cameronism - but realistically if anyone but Jenrick wins, I’m calling it a day.
Join Reform
Love your jacket, Stephen! I think you are wrong though about all Reform-minded Tories having left. There are quite a few of us hanging in there - I personally voted Reform (my Tory MP lost by 700 votes in a seat where Reform scored 7000). Saddened but unsurprised in the analysis the consensus that the Reform vote is all but irrelevant. Typical Tory wet/metropolitan complacency and if scaled up will doom the Tories entirely.
Could. Not. Care. Less.
No one is better than Rishi Sunak
You mean it would be better to have no one than Rishi Sunak.
I mean it’s Robert Jenrick - discussion over
Vote Reform
God himself wont save this party they are done and its time they realised that
Truss was their last chance.
😅😅😅😅😅
@@user-gf5qm9no8qLaugh, but he’s right and the election results partially prove it. They needed to hold their non-traditional Tory vote and they lost it and then some.
Who cares? theyre finished
OK Steve you win the bet.
Ask those who previously supported the Tories. The candidates are truly appalling.