The Best Performance Mods For The Genesis Coupe 3.8 | BK1 & BK2
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I love the amount of r&d going on with the 3.8 rn they making more and more power now both na and boosted I can't wait to see what Travis will do and alpha speed
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Literally already 1:30 in and it’s has been way more helpful than any other video I have watched in the whole 2 years I’ve been watching videos of 3.8 anything so thank you man and you’re not hella fuxking boring or a complete tool
Just ordered my grounding kit, dope video💪🏽I need to put my car on the dyno and see what she makes as she sits now😅
We did a test on injector voltage output as well as testing to see the ignition coil output before and after and basically there was a 3% increase after installing a ground kit. But we grounded only 3 of the 4 spots but non the less these cars do have bad grounds.
After seeing the cost to power made, i definitely think a turbo kit and forged internals are the best performance parts for the 3.8
This video was mainly for the n/a people since the majority of people don’t like sacrificing reliability with a turbo kit on stock internals.
I’ll have to make a force induction video and the best route to go with it because there’s a lot of misconceptions that people over look when building a 3.8
@@ProdigePerformance did you end up making a video on this?
@@HorrificReality yep sure did. My current issue rn is finding the time to edit it. I have a lot of videos that I would like to post but editing takes me a long time unfortunately
@ProdigePerformance Really looking forward to the video!
Salute to a brother. I ran through most of Titans list for 3.8 upgrade path and still want more lol. Would love to cam my baby.
I’ll gap you lil nigga😂😂😂
You always get into detail about things and I really like it. Other content creators for this platform are practically clue less.
Thanks for the good info as always. I’ll be sharing this on my local gen page
Finally SOMEONE is gonna start on some cams for the 3.8
Travis has been working on them for years. He just has a lot on his plate.
@@ihatestaubin1 i figured someone would be working on some, but i thought it mightve gotten scrapped since its been awhile lol but hopefully within the next year or 2 we can finally take advantage
hopefully they do justice like ls cams
@@tonydahollisternigga I would expect anywhere from a 40-80 whp increase with proper tuning can be attained with cams.
Pair that with a stand alone option and m5 or m1 fueling and I have no doubt in my mind a 3.8 engine can see 400-500 range N/A
@@ProdigePerformance if only there was an option to make the auto trans standalone like the manuals i have a automatic i like it but i like the sport mode for the autos because it feels like a sequential trans
Super informative and appreciated. Building my 2016 3.8 R-Spec right now and I will definitely be adding some of these recommendations.
I had Injen Intake in VA. But after I moved to the high desert of Southern Utah, reinstalled OEM box w/K&N filter. Much better!
POLY FILLED engine mount vid pls. Good job on info gathering and organization!
Thank you so much for the help. Been running NGM headers, ARK down + test pipes, and a single ISR exhaust. I'm also sadly using an injen intake BUT I already have a new cold air intake.
Currently pushing 300 HP on a automatic.
As of right now I'm saving up for new wheels and suspension components before I upgrade the engine. But I also have a oil cooler, catch can, and oil pressure Guage ready to install.
i had ngm headers on my gc they must have been made on a monday they had the ngm tag welded on upside down
I cant wait to see how the upper and lower manifolds do with the added fueling option on boosted 3.8s.
Me neither. 3.8 potential is about to sky rocket as more and more support is grasping towards them
@@ProdigePerformance hopefully cause I wanna see some bigger numbers from the built 3.8s.
Great quality content g.
I appreciate your comment thank you.
Great video bud. What about CP-E longtubes. I read a bit on the forums but no one really did any dyno testing with them just made claims without any data to back up their mouth.
AEM air intake claims plus 10hp. The intake comes with a print out of the dyno showing the increase in hp at around 6000 rpm.
All short ram intakes have been debunked on making any power for the 3.8 engine. 3Point8 performance and alphaspeed have tested the same designed intakes and app results are the same. Timing is being pulled in higher rpms because of the increase temps in IAT
Common reason is because the filter is not in a enclosed box and or near heat sources.
That’s why the stock intake with a drop in k&n filter or cold air intake with ceramic coating work best. Lower IATs are key
Ceramic coating will make cleaning easier but will not prevent air temperature from rising on applied parts
What are you talking about lol.
Looks like you’ll have to do some research
i feel like the dyno loss on the 6 speeds is a little high, seen more than a few make 270-280whp stock.
Well I did say more or less haha. I solely based those numbers off of the multiple stock dyno sheets alphaspeed and their dealers have. 260-270 is majority of where 3.8s bk2 land but again it could be more or less
@@ProdigePerformance you know us texas/florida boys making like 285whp stock 😉
@@sohogen8482 in the winter time haha
Excellent video bro. Thank you god bless you and your family.
Cant wait for those custom air intake manifold 😬
I forgot to mention how they have a GDI to MPI fuel conversion kit being made so a future stand alone option will be significantly cheaper than the motec ecu
@@ProdigePerformance Hey Brian do you know if you can get more hp and tq on having a cat back Ark grip exhaust with H pipe and downpipe?
@@SsobVaughn would have to test it out but the vast majority of of aftermarket exhaust for the 3.8! Are well within 3-5 hp in gains of eachother. So it will ultimately come down to your preference when deciding what exhaust to get.
I shouldn’t be the person telling you to buy x y z exhaust because they have the most gains, I’m truthful and telling you to get something you like and sounds pleasing to you over the power difference
@@ProdigePerformance they gave up?
@@NFLbts no, testing. Trial and error
Send them a message for more info
Great information! Keep it up!
Could you counter the power loss of a short air intakes by getting a hood that does provide vents so that heat under the hood was the option to rise and exist?
Still lose power from intense heat. Honestly there is no better engineering than the factory cold air scoop and a K&N filter in the factory box. Hyundai did a fantastic job on this system. The secondary cats got to GO though.
Hey bro are you able to paste a full list of parts for my 2010 3.8? I have screenshots from the video but I don’t want to miss any major parts
Thank you bro!
What air intake would be the most expensive and best one to buy for the 2013 track model??!!
Aye aye aye, money money money. Lol..
Did I make a good money decision.
Got a 2014 Genesis coupe 3.8 r-spec. Just installed the Injen short ram intake and am getting the ISR quad tip cat back racing exhaust tomorrow.
I'm not really going for a race car but I am looking for a nice sounding quick car so I'm starting to think I should have went with the solo.
Stood away from cold air intake because A, not much room and B, it floods around me every now and then. Don't want to destroy the motor so. What's your take?
Stock airbox, and isr single exit or tomei.
Wake it up with a manifold riser and tune to put the Cherry on top and the car will feel way better
do you think test pipes are a good choice on a single exit 3.8
For power, absolutely. The secondary cats look like a honeycomb inside compared to straight flowing test pipes. MAJOR dB increase however.
Excited for this comment section
Now they can finally bloom and be fast 🥺
Can you make an updated video please bro😭🙏🏼
Would you recommend the throttle controller? Most likely the tros 6 speed. I’m not tuned yet so I’m thinking of getting this in the meanwhile to fix that nasty lag.
If your stock it’s beneficial. After you get tuned it’s basically a paperweight
Some cold air intake still have the intake near the engine just with a heat shield. Like the AEM Cold air for the bk2 3.8
Yeah we’ve already debunked “heat shields” none work / have a difference with iat with or without them
@@ProdigePerformance understandable bc it’s not really blocking much but regardless, AEM sells their cold air intakes with the filter pretty exposed like the images you showed is all I was mentioning
@@hazzardrain I actually just installed one the other day. Did some logs with and without fog cover and IATs had dropped 11 in temps. So moving foward I recommend cutting the insert out or drilling it
Man. Autos only make 250 to the wheels??? What state are you in? Because i know that n/a engines perform worse in higher elevation areas (regret my decision lowkey, should've gotten the manual)
How much performance increase are we seeing? It seems like you said all in all less then even 50hp increase for almost 5 grand worth of upgrades. The 2.0t is looking like the far more efficient and cheaper option to get more power. I’m a v6 guy looking to justify NOT getting the 2.0t but I really want to get over 400hp. Any help would be appreciated.
The 2.0t is the better platform. Lol cheaper and easier to build to make decent power
Now you can hit over 400 wheel on a 3.8 just know you’ll need a turbo kit out the gate which is going to run you $3800
Plus a tune $1200
+ gauges
+ supporting mods
Etc
Where can I find the halo angel eyes headlights for my 2013 genny? Not many options for aftermarket headlights for 13 and up
Buying a catch can. Time to start cleaning 😤
Hola mucho gusto, una consulta escribí al correo que dejas para comprar el fuel pump relay kit pero no logré comunicarme, sabes en donde más podría comprarlo ? Un saludo
3point8performance
What about adding extra parts for the engine such as rods, pistons, head, etc.? I rarely see anything about that on youtube or anywhere else. How much horsepower would that add for N/A? basically, preparing for boost as well. From what I gathered over the years researching, most people blow their engine/motor because they go for a higher boost than what is recommended, and none of them have upgraded internal parts.
Rods and pistons don’t give you power. Compression ratios can factor into achieving more power but rods and pistons don’t.
And the reason why you don’t hear anything about cams is because nobody really has aftermarket cams for the 3.8 other than 3 people. Custom cams gains aren’t confirm due to adding a turbo kit in the process.
The main reason why 3.8 engines don’t survive is because the piston rings aren’t gapped for boost. They’re gapped for a n/a application.
Another problem is the oil pump. In higher rpms the 3.8 has cavitation problems.
Stock rods and pistons with a stand alone can do over 500-600 wheel.
The stock ecu limits the liability of controlling some factors that are crucial for fail safes.
@@ProdigePerformance is there an aftermarket solution for the oil starvation? I plan on getting a tcu tune from alphaspeed along with the custom ecu tune but I’m worried about increasing the rpm limit because the oil issue
Please do a Video for 3.8t with Stock internals.
i see you didnt mention a turbo kit which is the best bang for your buck imo.. just dont do it stupidly and try to run 7psi on pump gas, at least add meth or switch to e85 for even more horsepuppies and a happier engine..
This is for a n/a application. No force induction since the majority of people don’t like the higher maintenance and higher possibility of engine failure. I actually recommend a bottom end build before going turbo on all my build sheets and out of the 5 that I’ve done non of them have yet to have any problems and on pump gas.
Then again my build sheets are very specific for 3.8T applications.
I’ll cover turbo, SC and nitrous in another video since the best bang for buck would actually be a nitrous system.
Have a 3.8 n/a that made 413 wheel with a simple 75 shot and simple bolt ons.
Total cost with tune was under 3200
Turbo 3.8 is useless when majority of them have rod knock in less than a year. Clearly you need to build the engine first before going turbo. I’m assuming it’s the rings that don’t like the boost
@@mannyfenix2288 ive been boosted for about a year and a half and have been running 8psi on e85 & meth for a whole year.. the other half we bumped it up to 10psi e85 & meth... stock block aswell so i mean.....
@@ProdigePerformance forgot about nitros tbh, looking forward to the vid since im not a fan of superchargers unless its a last ditch effort.. still love the vids btw homie
is 3point8performance still active? i bought a grounding kit from them but havent heard anything about my order in a while
Nope. If you need a ground kit hmu on social media I make them. I even make engine leashes
I know I’m 2 years late but why does it go from 340 hp to 250 hp?
Because crank power and wheel power are different
You have drivetrain loss before the power from the the motor hits the wheels. It’s like that for any car
What’s does the stages mean??? Someone please help
If I don’t like the look of the single exit , and want the dual exhausts what would you recommend for the most power
They’re all within the same range. So asking that question is vague for only a 3-5 hp difference. Go with what you want. Just the single exit has proven most gains. Power and torque
Can you do one for the 2.0t
Already in the works!
@@ProdigePerformance cool thanks man just wondering where in Texas are you at
@@H3aders San Antonio boss
@@ProdigePerformance nice man I'm over in Austin
@@H3aders that’s down the street, we have a boosted 3.8T over there! Also josh Craig’s aka alphaspeed speed is located just above you in round rock
Do you recommend the AEM cold air intake system or should I stick to the stock one?
Aem
Good ass video
I Love U!
So what’s the better exhaust system for the best performance?
In short. A single exit. More tq
But your trade off is not sounding that great.
So in the end it’s really up to you. Is a little 3-4 hp and tq really going to make you decide to pick the less pleasing sound over a sound of the per day solo
Performance exhaust that sounds good?
What about light weight pulleys are they good for the engine.
They’re paperweights lol. Literally 0 benefits from them. They’re just as beneficial as a “throttle body spacer”
@@ProdigePerformance do they damage the engine like on other makes.
Hey. Soo I plan on turbo-ing my 3.8 this summer/ fall should I do these mods too or wouldn’t some of these be counterintuitive Bc I’m about to add a turbo?
I would 100% recommended just investing into the turbo kit and saving $ for the tune and supporting mods
I’ll only recommend a 3 inch turbo back set up and if you get a RP turbo kit it comes with turbo headers. Just need a custom y pipe to fit a single exit
@@ProdigePerformance thanks man
Can I use the oem fuel injector for e85 on a bk1 3.8?
No. Only bk2
What mod adds the most whp and tq?
Ported upper and lower, and cold air intake
Ported intake manifolds
Cold air intake
And the tune does a heavy job of making it all come together.
Intake isn’t that big of a deal air doesn’t just sit in the engine bay but I’m sure if you get a snorkel it really won’t matter
So IATs don’t matter?
@@ProdigePerformance air doesn’t just sit under your hood when your driving it’s colder and more air than a stick box.
Plus the 3.8 is a trash car anyway. Speaking as a owner of one worst car I ever bought.
@@Beezer4528 again… so IATs don’t matter?
@@ProdigePerformance its better than stick is what I’m saying.
can you feel the difference between 1hp?
No
Do you have a bk1 2.0 best parts video ?
I actually just got done editing the majority of it. I’ll try my best to have it uploaded today or tomorrow boss
@@ProdigePerformance you are the goat of the community by doing this work man. Been an owner since November 2010 seen all kinds of people for this platform and you are snoopy level important, keep this stuff up man, seriously good job
Do you think that for the idiots that bought an Injen short ram could save any of that power by wrapping or coating the intake pipe??
Nope. Doesn’t work that way unless you utilize the oem airbox enclosure and the oem ram air duct.
Like the R2C design.
Even then you’ll need to ceramic coated it to have it to work as good as oem or the 3Point8 performance cold air intake
So I’m the long run it’s better to revert back to stock with a drop in filter.
Again though, this video is purely for the performance junkies that want ever ounce of power
If you have a intake because you like the appearance of it then simply enjoy your car.
If I get all this and I want to get a turbo kit down the road would it affect anything ?? Sorry I don’t know a lot about cars
if you want to turbo ur car and want power get a 2.0t or a G37. if u do all that on ur 3.8 and slap and turbo on it u have a year MAX till it blows up!
I'm referring to an AEM intake on a bk2 3.8
The cold air intake by aem still has hotter iat compared to the 3Point8 performance one but I think it’s because of the ceramic coating my guy. Ceramic coating really helps out IAT. I’m pretty sure that’s why he didn’t note it in this video but I’d say it’s still better than a short ram
There is literally an AEMintake channel on utube with installation instructions and the dyno run. Are you saying they are lying about the 10 plus hp?
@@-don6496 aem also advertised their short ram intakes adding 5-7 hp and we all know that wasn’t true. So yes. Don’t believe everything when there’s no explanation behind it.
@@-don6496 I think the ceramic coating plays a huge factor when it includes decreasing IATs.
I did a lot of reading on it last night and supersized on how many people ceramic coat Their parts as well as adding a ice tank to bring IAT down to 50-60
Is it possible to boost the 3.8 2013 ?
Yes sir.
If you do, you have more balls than I do. Good luck 🤞🏼
Isn’t that Sxygen’s car?
Yes, this is Justin’s genesis 4.2 TT
Are and our are not interchangeable 😊
What parts?
BK1 3.8s do have AEM true CAI.
They do, but the OEM and 3Point8 performance is still the better option. That being because of the velocity and lower IATs. The velocity of the Aem is slower and IATs are a bit higher over stock (5-10) degrees) but not as bad as the short rams (25-40 degrees) I should’ve noted that in this video. The IAT problem can be easily fixed with a ceramic coat or heat shielding tape.
The AEM is still a good option though just not the best
Aem intake is not ceramic coated so IAT will increase in temp as it gets closer to the intake manifold. So it’s still better than short rams my guy but not as efficient as stock airbox
CAI is the way to go, if I may humbly quote Dustin himself "CAI (Cold Air Intakes) are the best way to go simply because they fix the TQ curve issue the stock airbox has".
@@dannys7182 Dustin’s CAI only work for the BK2s.
@@ansleypierceorencia4816 yeah, that’s why if you get a aem cold air intake it needs to be ceramic coated to help IAT instead of attracting heat with the powder coating
No matter what way you explained, Genesis is the worst investment you can do for race. A stock mustang 10 speed will GAP the shit of this build.
80% of gen owners know that. People get a genesis because it’s cheap and easy to work on. It’s brought widely because of the way it looks more than for power. It’s a beginners car. It’s always a cheap chassis to swap a ls in. Equivalent to 240s.
3.8 owners can finally stop losing to stock 2.0s now
LOL
jay i hope thats not you
Another awesome video!