Gospel Power Panel Discussion: Piper, Storms, Chan, Meyer, & Núñez
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- Опубліковано 15 лют 2018
- The gifts of the Spirit are to be employed and enjoyed. But how do we use them wisely? This panel of pastor-theologians gives guidance for the gifts.
0:24 - Can you give any practical guidance on spiritual gifts such as tongues, miracles, prophecy?
4:43 - Should we pray that we can have certain gifts of the Spirit?
7:20 - Francis Chan and panelists pray for healing.
12:43 - How should we think about praying for healing?
18:27 - How do you shepherd someone you are praying for to feel hope in God without being presumptuous, but still being expectant?
34:47 - How should we have discernment about the gifts and declaration of gifts?
40:04 - How do we make our churches a place where its people, especially women, who are victims of sexual abuse feel protected, safe, and heard?
45:46 - How are male leaders in the church supposed to relate to women in the church?
48:05 - How do male leaders in the church act wisely in relating to women without making them feel like they are a threat?
53:36 - What encouragement would you give to those who feel they do not measure up to prominent speakers and pastors successful ministries?
59:15 - How should we act when God makes promises?
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Years ago a man who was an Evangelist got Pancreatic cancer. We went to visit him at home and he was playing his guitar and worshiping at the end of his couch. I was quite and shy and sat and listened as he spoke with my husband. The presence of God got very strong and I witnessed angels gathering around him. I didn’t say a word other than tears and peace overflowing. There were about 7 gathered around him, as he sang a song he had written. I continued to watch and it took my breath away. After the song my husband said it was time to leave. And The Lord told me to pray and place my hand on his belly. I asked him if it was ok and he said please!! I then told him about the Angels and prayed but was travailing as I prayed which was new to me!! He then spoke a word over me and I thought because of that he would be healed. He passed away a couple months later and I asked my spiritual mother what that was about. She said possibly there was some inner healing that needed to take place. I later found out He and a son he had were reunited and His wayward son gave his heart to Jesus. So healing happens in so many different ways.. As God sees fit for that person and situation!! And it taught me a lot. A double edged sword is how God used this whole beautiful thing.. ❤️🙏🙌🏼🙏
Francis is so real. He makes me want to be more like Jesus than any other speaker I’ve heard. I love that he’s humble enough and secure enough to confess in front of a crowd. God bless him.
I love that Francis Chan was prompted the Holy Spirit and couldn't ignore him. My pastor does this as well, it is beautiful. Spirit led all the way.
Francis confession about the healing of the toe and the persistence is powerful. Pray more than once folks. Faith prays again.
Love how real Francis Chan is. To confess something in front of the people and pastors. Hard for anyone to do, to be that real.
Clicked on this just to hear Francis Chan. He’s truly a man of God who cares so much about people’s salvation. The way he interrupted to pray was heavenly. The others may think he’s weird. Love Francis Chan.
Francis Chan is real with himself all the time
That is the exact thought I had. Francis is so real. You could say some are motivated by their own image, but I know Francis is not grand standing to make himself look good. He desires God"s glory above all else.
@@travisbergh3923 I believe that they all do.
virgoee do not mistake appealing to emotions Godly. Francis Chan is without a doubt a vessel of God, but so are the others. The only negative for me is how he emotionally appeals to me, it is a bit over the top. Just like now with praying but that is ok..it just feels like attention seeking but i know i might be wrong. Only God knows who has the right heart..However, i still like to listen to him.
virgoee He’s annoying and loves the mike.
Bless Francis Chan’s precious child like Faith.. And his humility!!!❤️❤️❤️ Continue Lord to increase His Faith.. ❤️
I am afraid that because Francis is so close to God and so transparent and obedient, that others will turn on him. We need to pray that he continues on the path that God has placed him on. He is a voice in the wilderness for sure.
Don't be afraid.
Yes pray for me too on this subject.
For real
Frances Chan is an apostate. Do your homework.
How do you know that he is so close to God?
You are completely right. But God has it all in hand.
Gift of faith: When God supernaturally and sovereignly grants me the inability to doubt.
Wow. Blows my mind every time I listen to it.
I feel it is important to remember to put on our spiritual armor every day and leave the house EXPECTING God to use me as He is IN me and He is the same yesterday, today and forever!
Jesus ALWAYS Heals sometimes it's a MIRACLE, sometimes it's DELAYED and then their is the ULTIMATE Healing, where you go to Heaven and be with Jesus
curve your toes Christians if it’s no immediate then indeed it is merely delayed for a different time.
The question isn't I'd God still heals. Of course He can heal. The question is does any person have the gift of healing? If they do I wish they'd get in the hospitals and start using their gift. Especially the kids cancer hospitals. No one is doing it. Jesus and the apostles healed instantly every time.
I love Chan’s sense of humor and vulnerability
I'm hispanic and so happy to see Miguel in the panel too. He's such a man of God, and I've learned a lot about God from his ministry.
Gordon Torney God uses his servants to teach us about Him because the Holy Spirit gives diferent gifts to his church for mutual edification. I invite you to read 1 Corinths to learn more about it.
Gordon Torney if that's your position then you are in no position to comment. You only seek to make conflict out of a sincere woman making a great comment.
Meli Sol hola Meli cómo estás Dios te bendiga.
Meli Sol I’m not sure what being Hispanic has to do with your happiness, but I’m glad you are edified in Miguel presenting the gospel to you. I pray you find your worth in Christ rather than you lineage.
rms 5194 I'm not sure that you know anything about Meli Sol or where she finds her worth. In fact, you are not very edifying yourself. That, I am sure of.
I was healed supernaturally. I know HE exist!!!
Really?!? From what?!?
7:35 Man!!! Francis Chan is the kind of guy that I'd like to befriends with. He definitely challenges me and the Christian Status Quo. God bless him
This has been a topic I’ve gone back and forth on many times. Thanks for uploading this. 🙏🏼
I love how Francis came in jeans and a t-shirt! It is so him! LOL! Each of these men are mighty men of the Kingdom!!!! Thank you Father for each of them!
Lydia Ortiz clothes are soooo not the issue here.
@@visionlandmusic Nobody said they were. I was pointing to the fact that he is completely comfortable in who he is. He is among some of the mightiest men of God who are in fact suited up and jeans and a t-shirt are his choice. He stands on the truth thats clothes don't make the man. As I'm sure each of these men believe. But how they carry themselves speaks to their personalities and character.
They are such a great team of God! Hallelujah!
Such anointed exhortation at about 10 minutes by Francis! Love it! Glory to our great God!
Amen. God bless everyone. I love these types of discussions with mighty men of God.
I have never seen such solid godly men speaking on the power of God to heal through His people...beautiful!
PRAISE GOD! It takes courage to stand up and PRAY! Thank GOD! Believe GODS word!
Let’s not forget that the biggest gift for us from God is to be in His presence, when we pray for someone’s healing we have to remember that when God takes us home we will be healed. The first thing we have to teach people is that dying is not a bad thing when we know God, we don’t need to be afraid, we want to be here so that His promise in us is fulfilled but ones it is, it’s ok to go home.
I had that supernatural urge to declare one time in my life. A stage 4 test. cancer in a 21 year old man was healed.
I agree with Dr. Meyer
Only just watching this now but I just want to thank God for the wisdom of keeping silence...Pastor Piper.
So wonderful to be in the company of such godly men and their open discussion.
The holy Spirit is the one who will lead you into all Truth.
Commandment from God's Word.
PURSUE love, and DESIRE spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.
- I Corinthians 14:1
God always heals! He loves us and has perfect timing to manifest for His glory and magnification of His Loving sovereignty!
Thank you, Francis, for fearing God first!
Thank you for uploading this 😊 Am blessed inspired happy to see these man of God come together and with their truthful inspiring answers God bless their hearts 😊
Looking back now, many realized that Francis is a wise man because of the boundaries he has placed on himself. Love these men for their faith in Christ.
Healing is real !!!! Thank you Jesus for revealing the TRUTH !!!!
It’s so refreshing seeing men of God surrendering to him with no personal agenda. Thank you to show the world that even we can be disagree in certain things , we can love each other and glorify God doing so. Greetings Miguel, I’m Dominican and love ur preachings as well as Mr. Piper n Chan. I gonna start looking also storms and Meyer. ( I got a list on my agenda with 22 sound doctrine preachers, so I can. Enjoy one preaching every day ) , be all you blessed
Practical Ministry...oh so amazing . Healing is real, thank you Jesus that we have good examples of men to learn from.
This video made my morning! To see men the likes of Piper, Chan, Storms stopping their discussion to lay hands and pray a prayer of healing for another great man of God, Miguel Nuñez, truly inspired me today.
I love the fact that we're starting to see the faith of Jesus Christ overcome logic of men.
Every single one of you has a different gift. You guys rock in your own individual way. God have made you different for a reason.
Praise Jesus Christ for this people of faith! Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom !
Thank you, Francis Chan ♥️♥️
Powerful set of men of God right there!
I learned the celebration of others gifts at a very young age and I have been very blessed in return
So very true about pastors and the women in the congregations. Yes, sometimes I have felt "why don't you like me" and, even worse, "why don't you trust me?' It can be difficult, I understand. But, as women, we are on the back foot so much of the time. Let us feel freedom within the church, that we don't elsewhere in our lives and world.
Very good and helpful ... always glad to hear from Pastor Piper Pastor Storms and Francis, but will have to check out the ministries of the other brothers as well!
Scott Dove Jayson Meyer is pipers protoge
Francis. So intense. So cool. Want to be like him.
Matthew Schwerin Intense and cool are not gifts of the Spirit.
@@visionlandmusic Lol. I didn't say they were! Wow, made this comment two years ago. So, just to be clear, can I ask, do you think that Francis is not a true Christian?
My favourite Speakers
ABSOLUTELY SENSATIONAL.
Chan your awesome you can also be a gospel comedian but wow love you brother 💖🙏👍 you all are awesome..Chan you make me lough
This was incredible!!!!! Oh my gosh!!!!!!
Love these discussions I wish there were more of them!
I like how no one clapped after the prayer. That’s a very good witness!
Maravilhoso! Muito obrigado pelo conteúdo.
Francis Chan is so real he is just so real what-you-see-is-what-you-get who loves Jesus more than anything else in this world that is why I love him for what he did right there to be prompted by the spirit to do with the spirits telling him.. doesn't care what the other man on that panel think wow interrupting a protocol of all sitting and talking no that doesn't matter to Francis Chan he does what God tells him to do not what man tells him to do.. he walks the walk just like the disciples did...BUT sometimes God does not heal as Chan has preached also...its all up to him...
Mary Louise he’s truly a man filled with the spirit.
I love francis chan. First thing he does 10 minutes into being on stage with some of the best pastors and theologians, he's praying his ass off for the love and mercy of god.
Amazing.
Thank God for all this men👍
Let us also pray for them as well... So that ty will always be true to God n bring us the Good news of God always.
So beautiful!!
As Paul says in scripture it’s about us learning to be content whether we have plenty or little. I praise God that He has chosen me to be me- I just need to be more of me identifying with Him and not the world- Miguel is right in that we all need to cultivate a More Godly character
Tina Cross amen. Imagine living a life where you could actually say “I have learned to be content in all circumstances.” It’s a lofty but possible goal for everyone who had Jesus
This is great. Important discussion. Thanks :)
Healing can be manifested through us any time any where. We have been given all authority in heaven on earth.
Wrong! Christ has all authority, not us! “And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.”
Matthew 28:18 ESV
@@therockstar17 my bad. We pray in Jesus name. With His authority. 🙏🏼
@@jimmyjam3753 You don’t have His authority, He does. Praying in His name means praying in His will. You can’t just pray for anything and then say “in Jesus name” like a magic spell and it will be done. Jesus told us to pray in submission to His will, and in James 4 it says not to ask wrongly and submit yourselves and your plans to God’s will.
I have learned with this word
From Brazil
All the vidio i was waiting fir piper to talk something, like he is my favorite among all of them Although i am not a calvinist and he just talked once for 2 minutes, i learened a great lesson that its wiser to listen than to talk.
Iskander Imseeh dude you are so right. That’s an incredible observation
Please pray for my husband David Stout to be saved
I will pray for your husband
I know this is a year old but I'll pray for your husband Michelle, God is able!
I will pray for him
I am!
I hope he's come to a loving submission to the savior! I will pray for him!
Do you think admitting a sin (saying a lie yesterday in his message), confessing it in front of some prestigious speakers and vast audiences is easy ! Francis, because he has a constant fear of God, did it here and pray that he is continually to be true to our Lord Jesus whenever and wherever the place and situation.
I wish this was longer, really enjoyed this panel
Faith by works Nice brother Praise the Lord!
I think francis chan surprises himself much. Not necessarily him but the holy spirit in him.
Some people just make it deep....thank you Chan
When francis chan started.. i was hearing a sound by a black lady in a glitter dress on youtube "God we need more" they have the same heart
Thanks Chan
Lord forgive me of my sins with the blood sacrifice of Jesus. Please God be glorified by the healing of Pastor Nunez. I know You can and I humbly ask. Thank You, Father God.
I LOVE THIS!!
Gloria a Dios 🙏
Francis Chan is the best one up here.
I'm 40 mins in and the silence from JP makes me so proud
Pastor Chan. Glory to God
"The Shepherd must smell like the sheep!" Love that!
Thank-full 😂😂😂
This is all new to me lol..What a great man.
God glorifys himself in healing and illness.
Would love to see some of these men discuss biblical grounds for some of their claims with those that hold to cessationism.
Prioritise Spiritual healing, Salvation deliverance and preparing everyone for Spiritual warfare rather than Physical Bodily Healing. Body is just a mortal thing.Jesus came to deliver our Soul from this wicked and cursed life.
The gospel of Calvinism rolls on. Yippee! Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for Calvinists to dwell together in unity!
Mariusz Włodarczyk we'll see where that takes you sir
Mariusz Włodarczyk Francis is not a calvinist.
So good.
Be healed in Jesus name.
Chan: "Yo Piper, I'm really happy for you and imma let you finish - but Jesus had one of the best healing ministries of all time! He shoulda got the Glory right now!"
In Jesus name!
This was a God-moment!!!! Praying for Bro. Miguel.
Would you pray for my ear. It has been ringing for 2 years now and every year it seems to be getting louder and louder. Makes it hard for me to sleep at night. I have the fan on every night to block out the noise, but even now it seems its not even enough to block out the ringing. Thank You.
Prayed 😀
Mark Chavez prayed for you!! 😁
Prayed for you brother. May you be healed in Jesus name!
Prayed for you
Ear be healed, NOW in JESUS NAME
7:22 is why you gotta love Chan!
Kasper Petersen why is he a heretic?
If all pastors there on the panel and audience (all are pastors and staffs) welcome him that means all of them are heretics too? Or maybe you on a wrong channel??
Cuse he prays for healing like the early church did believing in Gods love and power? Or when he preaches against loving yourself over Christ or is it his boldness to preach to the lost?
@@kasperpetersen9204 Please cite the heresy.
@@kasperpetersen9204 accusations are not to be entertained outside of the Scriptures remedy.. the accuser of the brethren lives in your heart for you know not what spirit you are from
I am a stroke victim. My stroke happened two years ago. It was a severe stroke, paralysing the right side off my body and severely affecting my speech. I have prayed constantly for healing. But this the answer I believe came from God. When I became a Christian I became an eternal being, therefore I am healed , not right now, but I am healed. The time of my healing is up to God who says in the book of Isaiah chapter 60 v 22 "At the right time, I, the Lord will make it happen ". I am not my own. Whether it be now I am healed or later on in heaven, It's up to God. My payer is that my life be honouring to Jesus my Saviour, as well as my death. I am healed never the less.
Chan is such a boss!
I love Miguel at 43:30. Shepherds need to be kind to their sheep!
God's work in our life is for two things. 1. Our Salvation. 2. Other's Salvation. Healing or Blessing or the lack thereof is based how it will affect these two issues.
If you have faith as a mustard see you will SPEAK TO THE MOUNTAIN and command the mountain to be cast out into the sea AND IT SHALL BE DONE !!!
That's the words of Jesus
So great to have these excellent teachers ther together, the question Francis asked about healing. Is it possible that we simply lack faith and have to pray through? I have often thought about this too and am glad he asked so honestly, have also felt extremely guilty since I am a nurse and in daily life often forget to pray for my patients. In fact I usually only pray for them when I am prompted at home. But what if people like Curry Blake are right, we could all heal, if we just kind of "put our back into it". This is a big question!
Francis Chan- You are right on above all in your childlike faith and willingness to learn or accept truth you previously rejected. That is not present in all on the panel.
I for sure have Francis Chans sense of humor and this talk was so helpful and insightful!!
Agreed, it was insightful! God is good! Check out our ministry's channel if you get a chance. Thanks:)
Francis has so much humour in him 😂😂😂
WOW it is so deep discussion!!! I have some doubts,
1- Should we ask GOD in the first place if he WANTS heal the person who is suffering with some PAIN?
2 - The bible says that the prayer of the righteous/saint is wort JAMES 5:16 so if the righteous pray should all the pain gone?
3 - Jesus says himself that he will send the "HELPER" and through him we will much more than him, based in this there is something wrong with our FAITH? or with our LIFE (RIGHTEOUS)? THAT block us to HEAL IN "HIS" NAME?
It is always into my mind and i have no idea yet of how it really must works in the real life through the BIBLE.
Is there a video with the Spanish translation that Piper mentioned?
How sad some of things they claim is scripture. My spirit was grieved hearujng these things! But praise God I can see God working in Francis heart always loved his heart and I believe He knows and is learning the real true God!!