These two men, along with RC, are responsible for bringing me out of the prosperity gospel and into biblical Christianity. I am forever grateful to these men.
I am from Pakistan. I am involved in the ministry of teaching and preaching. This talk immensely blessed me and I even recommend to many people to listen to this. These two men have had a strong influence in my formational years of ministry and even now the formation process is going on. I pray that we all stay faithful to God and His Word. All glory and honor belongs to Him alone.
For REAL???! A Christian brother in Pakistan??? You gotta be a warrior! I hope and pray that you are safe, and you are now on my prayer list. I would really like to hear all about your testimony.
Where are you in Nigeria? I am a Nigerian and I have not seen or heard of any Nigerian pastor that focuses on preaching the word as it should. Most are all about prosperity. Where do you worship so I can worship with you if you are in Lagos
I am in Rwanda, I have been personally impacted by both John Piper and John MarcArthur, they are spiritual giants and many people in the world have been blessed by how these men respect the Bible
I can appreciate them both after having spent five decades confined by all things Charismatic, especially that which tended toward the most erroneous proclamations.
I began listening to John Macarthur in the early 80s during my lunch breaks at the VA hospital where I worked. I didn't know anything about Piper in those days, but I have learned to love his teachings just as much. The truth is, the great majority of Charismatic communities do not have a well established structure of Scriptures that forms sound doctrine. Instead, they rush to their meetings to fall to the floor. Oh, they might hear a "message" that is spoken, but, as Piper says, it acts like the coffee percolator that bubbles, and in time, readies the attendees for the emotional shaking that leads to ecstacy which they say is the presence of God.
You have no idea how much this blessed me as a young 27 year old pastor. Thank you so much for sharing this and making this possible. It is my desire by God's grace to grow old serving Christ just like these two. . .😊❤️❤️much love from the Philippines!!! 🙏🙏🙏
Wow, much love from the Philippines? I'm an "American" who lived there for close to 10 years and , with a few exceptions, the last thing I experienced was "much love." In fact, I would suggest, that unless you're specifically called to go there, avoid that country at all costs.
John McCarther has given me something I cannot put into words. He preaches the Truth and for that I will always be grateful. Thank you God for your son Jesus Christ who died and shed His precious blood for me. The Holy Spirit who guides me and the gospel that changes me day by day. Amen
@@bradleykimmonsThe Holy Spirit bears witness of Christ. (John 15:26) It’s God’s spirit which points us to Jesus. Christ didn’t teach much about the Holy Spirit. He did speak of His heavenly Father a lot. What more is there to preach about the Holy Spirit?
I am praying for you dear one. The Lord God, Creator of Heaven and earth through and for Jesus Christ will bring you comfort and relief in His time. He allows us to suffer terrible things so that we may be cleansed and sanctified, prepared to be with Him eternally. I pray your faith will not fail but would be strengthened during this difficult trial. God loves you and He is holding you fast. Seek Him everyday. Wait on Him. Trust for endurance and patience. He will bring you out a new person. His mercy is endless and His love never fails. Thank you for sharing your pain with someone like me who knows personally the distress you are experiencing. God is faithful. He is doing a great work in you. Hang in there!🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️
Came across this comment today and pray God continues to make you strong both in your suffering and as you’re suffering abates. May you see Christ through the suffering that you experience both in the flesh of the people around you who know Christ and seek to serve you as well as spiritually as he brings you the peace that passes all comprehension, even though you suffer. Much love from Texas.
It’s been a while since I’ve seen JM and JP together on the same stage. Thankful for their faithfulness to the ministry and for their fervency in sharing the gospel. As a 19 y/o I’ve learned much from both of them, and it was JP’s messages that helped shape my theology of suffering. I have been dealing with chronic pain and illness for 7 years… recently discovered I have Lyme disease. The Holy Spirit speaks through these men. I look forward to meeting them one day.
Hi again Addy…I should have said “Dr. Berg Lyme desease”. If you scroll down, you will come to a lot of videos and one by a Dr. Rawls. There is a book called “Why Can’t I Get Well?”. It’s all about Lyme. D you have a verified Lyme doctor near you, someone who is educated in Lyme disease? That would be ideal. You could do a search for a Lyme doctor in, or close to, your area. And check his/her credentials if there is one. I’ll pray for you. May God bless you in your search.
All denominations combine the gospel of the kingdom (which Jesus and the 12 taught) with the gospel of the grace of God, which ONLY Paul taught. The gospel that Jesus Christ taught is John 3:16 - " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." With the John 3:16 (gospel of the kingdom) you have to keep the Law of Moses to be saved! Matthew 19:17 - ""And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." With the gospel of the kingdom, you have to endure until the end to be saved! Mathew 24:13- - "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. With the gospel of the grace of God (I Corinthians 15:1-4) we are saved (at the exact moment) when we believe the gospel. Ephesians 1:13-14 - "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. I Corinthians 15:1-4 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. The gospel of the grace of God is the gospel by which Jesus Christ was raised from the dead. II Timothy 2:8 - "Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel." We will be judged by Paul's gospel. Romans 2:16 - "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel." Do you want to have your sins forgiven by Paul's gospel, be saved by believing Paul's gospel, and be raised from the dead by Paul's gospel, or do you want to listen to a false gospel preached by false denominational preachers? Things changed after the cross...
I live in Sri Lanka. Nobody knows that I am reformed except for my wife,family and few friends. I am surrounded with pentacostal / word off faith churches whom alos are semi pelegians. Lord used these two men, Dr RC and Washer to help me come out of that pentacostal heratical darkness. Eventhoug they dont know me, I love them dearly. If I couldnt hug them in this part of life I will hug fhem and tell them how thankful I am for them in Christ. All glory, thank amd honor to my loving saviour Jesus Christ!
My grandson, at 27 yrs old, suggested I start going online for John Piper's messages. It has been a true blessing because JP and JM both have the fundamental teachings that I appreciate. They are irreplaceable in this time but I do hope they can pass the faith to young men who will multiply their teachings and a great revival can come upon our country and even the world.
They have Sister, I am sharing the Word with my group on Zoom and the Bible is the source of everything that I share. I have learned that it isn't my opinion and that it is scripture and scripture alone. I wasn't taught sola scriptura as a child growing up all these years but praise God for these men!
I would agree with MacArthur that the Americas now pagan and that makes the America now more hostile to the church. So Christians and the church now seem more angry and hostile .
Listen to John Piper at 11:11:48 “The last thing we want is for people to walk out of church on Sunday, seething with anger at their culture”. WOW! Praise the Lord! What a contrast of what we are seeing at many churches today. What a blessing for me to listen to this truth. Thank you Pastor John Piper.
Yes, may God forgive us for sinful anger, and our selfish indignation! May we be filled with trust for our Sovereign God and the help to do what pleases Him alone!
This is was such an important point for me thanks for pointing out. As I've been frustrated and angry watching everything that's going on. After a couple of weeks I realised that it's really not how I'm called to respond.
Well we should see the culture for what it is. God hates sin, and we are wicked. We should have mercy in our hearts, but we should also hate the evil around us.
What gospel, gospel means good news. The two are 5 point calvanist, in calvanism there is no good news. They believe the lord only died for the elect, they the non elect were created for he'll. They believe the none-elect are the majority of the world population, so where's the good news? The elect, they believe, could have been chosen against their will (tulip) so no good news for them either.
Why are they called Not Christians? View UA-cam: " Not Christians?! Why", Come Unto Christ Alma Chapter 30"! Open your heart and Mind! Learn, Ponder about what you have learned, Write down your feelings and impressions, and pray about your impressions! James 1:5 Ask with real intent!
@@lukezandvliet2294 So, to be clear, do you believe therefore that the majority of the world is going to heaven? Because if they're not, explain to us how you think that's 'good news'?
The 2 Pastors who have had the greatest impact on my understanding of God's Word! These 2 godly men compliment each other perfectly. I found this conversation thrilling to my own walk in faith. Thank you ✝️
23 year old man here looking to become a theology professor and hopefully a pastor one day. MacArthur has been used by God in such a great way in my spiritual walk, and I’ve just recently begun listening to/reading Piper and he has as well. Thank God for these men!
Oh my, why have I only heard this conversation with these two great men only now in 2024?! Thank you gentlemen and may our Dearest Heavenly Father bless you and yours with good health and longevity to keep on guiding your flock. I am listening from the UK.
Thank you Mr Chairman for your introduction and for the carefully worded questions that elicited such profitable responses from two servants of the Lord.
I absolutely love both of these men with all my heart! I found my way back to Jesus Christ starting with John Piper and am learning more about myself and my journey now with John MacArthur. Without them, I don’t know where I would be in my life of growing with Christ. I was so lost and broken and tormented after losing my child. So for me, how amazing this moment is to see them both together and to feel so honored to have been changed by them both! I actually feel a big circle in my life coming together watching this beautiful moment. Thank you both for leading me to Christ and for helping me understand my way after my daughter was taken from me. I am on my journey still until I make it back home with my savior! God bless you both! ❤✝️
May our faithful Lord continue to bless, fill and heal you as you continue to grow in your faith and journey with Him! Thank you for sharing your story and pain, and journey of how these Godly men have influenced and helped you grow in the knowledge and faith of Christ! Can you imaging your loss with out knowing the LORD?? Thank God you know Him! 🙏🏻👏♥️
What I love about these men of God is that they are having a friendly conversation and both of them have their Bibles right by their sides.....very honorable, it represents their love for the word of God.
WOW, just WOW!!!!! When I read about great men that were lovers of God and blessed this earth with their teachings, knowledge, passion for Christ and rich experiences of Him I often feel jealous of those who lived during their times.... so I feel incredibly blessed to live during this time. There aren't many like Piper... he has validated so many of my beliefs and thoughts as a Christian and im especially grateful for him. May the Lord continue to bless them both of these men abundantly for their sacrifice, their boldness in the faith and their unwavering commitment to the Lord. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
I'm currently only at 35:44 of this conversation and I'm struck by how beneficial it is to hear the experiences of these two great servants of the Lord and expositors of His word. Not only in understanding my individual position in the body and what I believe my calling to be, but also benefits in comprehending God's working..."providence" in all of our lives as the chosen of God. On another subject, just 12 years ago I would not have even known what arminianism was, and how it was distinguished from Calvanism. For me, I simply discovered that the way I understood God's word was in keeping with what these reformed preachers were teaching. As a teaching elder, I found myself at odds with all of the other leaders of my Arminianist church, and so, was ostracised, yet for the sake of the members who still embraced me and my exegesis/hermenuetics (I felt the need to bring them along with me), I hung in for another five years. Only to now find myself alone, without a church home, not wanting to place membership in a church of any particular denomination. My previous church no longer exists but gave everything to a truly non-biblical church, including the house I was living in. Currently attending a 2RP church. Besides my sophomoric writings, I'm feeling rather fruitless and turning 65 this year. Prayers appreciated.
I love these men. What an example they are. You can actually see the sincerity. The attention one gives the other when the other talks is priceless yet they are so knowledgeable.
I wanted to say that I'm so grateful to God for these men and for John macarthur because of his teaching of God's word and reading the Bible I was saved I was convicted by God's word and could not bear my sin anymore I needed to repent and ask my Lord Jesus Christ forgiveness for my sins and repent and I believe in what he did for me on the cross and read and heard the pain he went through for me because he loved me so I could love him and receive salvation in his name.
I'm glad seeing them together but also suddens at the same time because sooner or later God is going to call them to glory. Especially having listening to J Mac for so long.
God bless John Piper and John MacArthur, so thankful for their ministries. "Oh,The joy of having nothing and being nothing, seeing nothing but a living Christ in glory, and being careful for nothing but His interest down here." - JND
Man, I smiled so much listening to these two men dialogue and reminisce. Very thankful for the work God has done through these two and I'm blessed to be growing up in a time where I have such plentiful access to solid teaching from them, as well as others.
Thank you pastor John Piper , pastor John MacArthur for your joyful Ministry and Biblical Theology ! 2 TIMOTHY 1:8 Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony about our LORD, nor of me his prisoner, but share in suffering for the Gospel by the power of GOD, who Saved us and Called us to a Holy Calling, nor because of our works but because of His own purpose and grace, which HE gave us in CHRIST JESUS before the ages began.
This was funny, enlightening, joyful and wonderful to watch! Both of these men have had a huge impact on my own theology and growth in Christ. I am so grateful for their faithfulness to God's word and their standing unashamed before the lost world!
@Jim Hammer can I ask what your problem is with the Trinity? I get it, I wouldn't go as far as you do on not liking him, but I get how he can come off a little arrogant. I totally disagree with dispensation, and absolutely do not believe in pre-trib rapture. But I am interested in your view of the Trinity.
@Jim Hammer no, no questions. I feel bad for you that you don't understand these things. Not that I am any better or smarter or more worthy than you, you can only understand these things through the Holy Spirit, He that gives you eyes to see and and faith to believe. All the things you pointed out for example having 2 nature's and being subordinate to the Father and not eternally existing etc. Are very easily understandable through the Holy Spirit! To say that God cannot do these things is limiting God and putting Him in a box. Can God not limit himself if He pleases? Can God not manifest Himself in human flesh if He pleases? Jesus is subordinate to the Father in role only not in nature. I will pray for you Jim, as long as you have breath in you it is not too late to repent! With all love in Christ I pray you see the truth!
All denominations combine the gospel of the kingdom (which Jesus and the 12 taught) with the gospel of the grace of God, which ONLY Paul taught. The gospel that Jesus Christ taught is John 3:16 - " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." With the John 3:16 (gospel of the kingdom) you have to keep the Law of Moses to be saved! Matthew 19:17 - ""And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." With the gospel of the kingdom, you have to endure until the end to be saved! Mathew 24:13- - "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. With the gospel of the grace of God (I Corinthians 15:1-4) we are saved (at the exact moment) when we believe the gospel. Ephesians 1:13-14 - "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. I Corinthians 15:1-4 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. The gospel of the grace of God is the gospel by which Jesus Christ was raised from the dead. II Timothy 2:8 - "Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel." We will be judged by Paul's gospel. Romans 2:16 - "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel." Do you want to have your sins forgiven by Paul's gospel, be saved by believing Paul's gospel, and be raised from the dead by Paul's gospel, or do you want to listen to a false gospel preached by false denominational preachers? Things changed after the cross...
Mighty leaders in the faith. I have learned so much from them both. I spent 40 yrs listening to John Mac Arthur, and many with Piper as well ....after I found him. Such sincere love for God and His people. They bring much glory to our Savior. God bless them both! ❤️
WOW. To God be the Glory! Two fantastic men of God on stage together. I shall read the "The Gospel According to Jesus Book" mentioned in the beginning & I am truly thankful to both Pastor Dr John Piper (Desiring God) and Pastor Dr John MacArthur (Grace to you) for the impact that they have had on my life due to their faithfulness to the Lord Jesus Christ. And I'd also like to thank God for their ministries and the number of lives God has blessed, touched, regenerated and sanctified through them. God bless you all for watching this. God bless you two amazing pastors and your ministries. Amen!
Love these two godly men of Christ! I have listened to hours and hours of teaching and supplemental discipleship for more than a decade. Both clearly and faithfully in the body of Christ, preach the word! Even with some agreements, they still hold together to teach and preach the Gospel, blessings to them!
In a prayer meeting at my local church a week ago, a woman was praying for persecution in America to refine the lazy, lax, and weak church. It was the first time I ever heard that and couldn't argue with that truth. The reinforcement of that truth in this Q&A is....providence. :) Praise our Master Jesus Christ. This video felt so short. Quickest hour and a half I have experienced in a long time.
Praise be to God for these Pastors , and preaching the Truth of Gods Word Amen . I am so looking forward to heaven and listening to these pastors. Love luba
Love the Truth! Love the Gospel! Love the LORD with all your heart, mind and soul! Praise God for these men of God! John MacArthur has been solid rock through the years for millions of people!! Thank you for always teaching the Word of God! And John Piper, whom I know less of, has a heart for God, so evident in the sermons and books he’s written. All the glory be to God!
My walk with The Lord hasn't been the same since I started listening to the clear, profound and powerful teachings of these men of God along with RC Sproul, Sugel Michelen, Miguel Núñez and others that faithfully preach and teach the Sovereignty and Grace of God. I'm deeply grateful to The Lord for using these teacers in my life. Thank you for sharing this video.
Yahweh be praised. I am so glad I listened to this. I feel so blessed, and I can't even deny it. Not one bit. JP and JM are both as funny as they are fierce. Love these duo so very much. God bless!
Yeah, I don't know why, but first 10 or more minutes of their conversation, confessing appreciation for each other made my eyes tear up. I don't know why but I am just crying listening to them. Just beautiful seeing these two on the same stage.
This is just awesome... glorifying God, I love these men, so good to hear them together, bouncing their ideas together like pebbles into a still pool, causing ripples in me that bring conviction and peace. I thank God for you dear brothers, very dear brothers.
God raised Pastor John MacArthur as the best spiritual leader in America 🇺🇸 God deserves the glory We will gain victory in the name of Jesus I love you Jesus Lord my God I love you I love you very much
Thank you for helping me become the man God planned me to be Mr Piper and MacArthur, I have been listening you two since I was 19 when I was saved. Love from Brazil.
Thank you for this. My church has been searching for a faithful pastor for about 2 years. This helps inform my prayers while we are searching. I have grown as I learned from both Johns. I am glad to live at a time when the teaching of such men, as well as the Puritans and others, is so available. We need men to flesh out the Gospel; there are too many fluffing it out. As always God is Himself faithful - to His Word and His people. At the right time He will lead the right man to us. Thank you all for this encouragement.
If I am even a little bit this wise and love God as much as these guys at my old age (and be THIS awesome!) then I will be satisfied. May we all love the Lord God will all our hearts, all our minds, and with all our souls and love His Word that we may be able to stand boldly and strongly, immovable, against the Enemy.
My favorite preachers alongside Voddie Bauchman and Paul Washer. Also, shoutout to the preacher from my home state John Piper, from Minnesota. May God cover both even more for us and bless them abundantly.
What a wonderful multi-faceted discussion from two very wise pastors. Thankful for them today and thankful for my pastors who are faithful men of the gospel.
I found this q&a so very helpful. Thank you. I find it fascinating: these two men have such different personalities and so while they both stay faithful to the word, each man compliments the other in such a way that rounds out each others answers. It makes me think of how, in the gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke and John captured and focused on different aspects of Jesus’ ministry. God has created each of us uniquely and we need each other to glorify Him.
Agreed, Nick...isn't it wonderful how our God gives differing gifts and talents and personalities to us to use in His church and our world--yet have so many of us from so many different background come together in Christ and His Word?
I can’t even begin to explain my gratitude to the Lord for the work He’s done through these men. I want them to know that the Lord is GLORIFIED because through their preaching, I find Joy, peace, love, and SATISFACTION in the Lord because of the passions and the gifts that the Lord has given them. Thank God for them, and thank you John, and John 🙏🏻
Johnny Mac The Vanishing Conscience sharpened me up. Piper Christian Hedonism teaching is awesome for spiritual warfare. Iron sharpens iron. I believe these men love God. And are used by God to help me on my way to do the same.
God Be praised and forever for His Holy Word. And His Name be praised, for earthen vessels He also chose through which, His Word (Jesus) is preached to lost sinners (2 Cor 4:3-7). May the LORD Who called you both keep you faithful to the Truth till the very end (1 Cor 4:2, Eph 6:19). I have been very blessed by you both over years. Remain richly blessed.
Fascinating talk! Loved hearing their testimonies, however it was extremely helpful at 45 min when they spoke about the roles of the government and Church. Eating this up!
I feel honored to listen to the both of these great men of God share their views on such matters. I have respected both for quite some time now. It seems the the truth is on a fine line between both of their views and I have profited much from being able to see both through the years May God bless them both in the coming days and years to come with the same Profound love of the Lord as I have always seen in them. Will keep them both in our prayers 🙏
In my journey from Catholicism to Protestantism these men were influential in seeking a deeper understanding of the bible. I lacked a way to live the Christian faith though and I prayed to God to help me find the Church that was like in the book of Acts. I am grateful for leading me into Eastern Orthodox Christianity. The Gates of Hell has never prevailed against the true Faith and Body of Christ. Glory to God!
Amen!!!i really love these men and im so so grateful to God always for their teachings..may the Lord Jesus truly bless them and their family! Greetings from Philipppines🩷🇵🇭
Beautiful!! God used (and still does use) both of your online ministries to play an ENORMOUS part in my learning about the beauty and sovereignty of our Lord Jesus Christ when I was a brand new believer. I am eternally grateful for that. Thank you for dedicating your life to God via the pastorate so that others might know His glory 🙏🏽
I cannot thank Our Lord God enough for John's teaching, no matter what he teaches from the Word I always, excitedly walkaway filled with, love, peace and the joy of the Lord.... Thank you John. My God continue to bless you and your amazing ministry.
These two men, along with RC, are responsible for bringing me out of the prosperity gospel and into biblical Christianity. I am forever grateful to these men.
Praise God!
Prosperity gospel? Haven't read that book
@@mickeypearce244 it’s not a book.
Bro theres no such thing as prosoperity gospel..
@@sannysorianojrbat-ao8935 awesome bro
I am from Pakistan. I am involved in the ministry of teaching and preaching. This talk immensely blessed me and I even recommend to many people to listen to this. These two men have had a strong influence in my formational years of ministry and even now the formation process is going on. I pray that we all stay faithful to God and His Word. All glory and honor belongs to Him alone.
Thanks for your diligent work, brother!
@@misternewman1576 thanks brother
Keep fighting the good fight, brother. May God bless you in your work.
What you wrote gave me joy in my soul God bless what you are doing for him and his kingdom brother in Christ 🙏
For REAL???! A Christian brother in Pakistan??? You gotta be a warrior! I hope and pray that you are safe, and you are now on my prayer list. I would really like to hear all about your testimony.
From Nigeria John Piper and Macarthur has really helped our Theology. i just hope one day They will visit Nigeria
That would be really cool! Much love from the US :)
I really hope they would come visit Nigeria soon! I am seeing this conversation for the third time…
God's blessings to Nigeria. It is difficult there without a doubt. Praise God for the faith and devotion of our Nigerian brothers and sisters.
I'm Nigerian too❤
Where are you in Nigeria? I am a Nigerian and I have not seen or heard of any Nigerian pastor that focuses on preaching the word as it should. Most are all about prosperity. Where do you worship so I can worship with you if you are in Lagos
I am in Rwanda, I have been personally impacted by both John Piper and John MarcArthur, they are spiritual giants and many people in the world have been blessed by how these men respect the Bible
I can appreciate them both after having spent five decades confined by all things Charismatic, especially that which tended toward the most erroneous proclamations.
I began listening to John Macarthur in the early 80s during my lunch breaks at the VA hospital where I worked. I didn't know anything about Piper in those days, but I have learned to love his teachings just as much. The truth is, the great majority of Charismatic communities do not have a well established structure of Scriptures that forms sound doctrine. Instead, they rush to their meetings to fall to the floor. Oh, they might hear a "message" that is spoken, but, as Piper says, it acts like the coffee percolator that bubbles, and in time, readies the attendees for the emotional shaking that leads to ecstacy which they say is the presence of God.
You have no idea how much this blessed me as a young 27 year old pastor. Thank you so much for sharing this and making this possible. It is my desire by God's grace to grow old serving Christ just like these two. . .😊❤️❤️much love from the Philippines!!! 🙏🙏🙏
God bless and keep you and give you abundant grace and strength for His work. Blessings and Love from Nigeria.
Any advice for someone who’s looking to become a pastor??
Wow, much love from the Philippines? I'm an "American" who lived there for close to 10 years and , with a few exceptions, the last thing I experienced was "much love." In fact, I would suggest, that unless you're specifically called to go there, avoid that country at all costs.
God bless saiyo, brother.❤
God is good all the time I learned a lot from John MacArthur and I'm thankful and blessed to have him ❤
John McCarther has given me something I cannot put into words. He preaches the Truth and for that I will always be grateful. Thank you God for your son Jesus Christ who died and shed His precious blood for me. The Holy Spirit who guides me and the gospel that changes me day by day. Amen
Well he kinda forgets about the Holy Spirit…a lot. But yeah other than that I guess he’s ok
@@bradleykimmonsThe Holy Spirit bears witness of Christ. (John 15:26) It’s God’s spirit which points us to Jesus. Christ didn’t teach much about the Holy Spirit. He did speak of His heavenly Father a lot. What more is there to preach about the Holy Spirit?
I'm dealing with immense pain inside and out, anyone reading this willing to pray for me I Thank you!!
@Laur S thank you for your heart for praying for others amidst your own suffering. Have prayed for your as well. Rom8:38-39.
I am praying for you dear one. The Lord God, Creator of Heaven and earth through and for Jesus Christ will bring you comfort and relief in His time. He allows us to suffer terrible things so that we may be cleansed and sanctified, prepared to be with Him eternally. I pray your faith will not fail but would be strengthened during this difficult trial. God loves you and He is holding you fast. Seek Him everyday. Wait on Him. Trust for endurance and patience. He will bring you out a new person. His mercy is endless and His love never fails. Thank you for sharing your pain with someone like me who knows personally the distress you are experiencing. God is faithful. He is doing a great work in you. Hang in there!🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️
@@ellenpearl6466amen, me too.
Praying for you!
Came across this comment today and pray God continues to make you strong both in your suffering and as you’re suffering abates. May you see Christ through the suffering that you experience both in the flesh of the people around you who know Christ and seek to serve you as well as spiritually as he brings you the peace that passes all comprehension, even though you suffer. Much love from Texas.
Our FATHER is so amazing, unfathomable, and frankly mind-blowing, also so unbelievably MERCIFUL to provide us with these men of GOD. 😭😭
God has used These two men and Voddie to radically change my view of Christianity and open my eyes. Praise God for them.
It’s been a while since I’ve seen JM and JP together on the same stage. Thankful for their faithfulness to the ministry and for their fervency in sharing the gospel. As a 19 y/o I’ve learned much from both of them, and it was JP’s messages that helped shape my theology of suffering. I have been dealing with chronic pain and illness for 7 years… recently discovered I have Lyme disease.
The Holy Spirit speaks through these men. I look forward to meeting them one day.
Hi Addy…I’m sorry that you have Lyme disease. It’s prevalent in our family. Look up Dr. Berg and the Keto diet.
Hi again Addy…I should have said “Dr. Berg Lyme desease”. If you scroll down, you will come to a lot of videos and one by a Dr. Rawls. There is a book called “Why Can’t I Get Well?”. It’s all about Lyme. D you have a verified Lyme doctor near you, someone who is educated in Lyme disease? That would be ideal. You could do a search for a Lyme doctor in, or close to, your area. And check his/her credentials if there is one. I’ll pray for you. May God bless you in your search.
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All denominations combine the gospel of the kingdom (which Jesus and the 12 taught) with the gospel of the grace of God, which ONLY Paul taught.
The gospel that Jesus Christ taught is John 3:16 - " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
With the John 3:16 (gospel of the kingdom) you have to keep the Law of Moses to be saved!
Matthew 19:17 - ""And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
With the gospel of the kingdom, you have to endure until the end to be saved!
Mathew 24:13- - "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
With the gospel of the grace of God (I Corinthians 15:1-4) we are saved (at the exact moment) when we believe the gospel.
Ephesians 1:13-14 - "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
I Corinthians 15:1-4
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.
The gospel of the grace of God is the gospel by which Jesus Christ was raised from the dead.
II Timothy 2:8 - "Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel."
We will be judged by Paul's gospel.
Romans 2:16 - "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel."
Do you want to have your sins forgiven by Paul's gospel, be saved by believing Paul's gospel, and be raised from the dead by Paul's gospel, or do you want to listen to a false gospel preached by false denominational preachers?
Things changed after the cross...
So these 2 men are mediators for you to Jesus?
I live in Sri Lanka. Nobody knows that I am reformed except for my wife,family and few friends. I am surrounded with pentacostal / word off faith churches whom alos are semi pelegians. Lord used these two men, Dr RC and Washer to help me come out of that pentacostal heratical darkness. Eventhoug they dont know me, I love them dearly. If I couldnt hug them in this part of life I will hug fhem and tell them how thankful I am for them in Christ. All glory, thank amd honor to my loving saviour Jesus Christ!
Amen! Thanks for sharing, we might be in the minority, but we see more of God's glory brother!
My grandson, at 27 yrs old, suggested I start going online for John Piper's messages. It has been a true blessing because JP and JM both have the fundamental teachings that I appreciate. They are irreplaceable in this time but I do hope they can pass the faith to young men who will multiply their teachings and a great revival can come upon our country and even the world.
Great idea, i listen from abroad.
Amen.
They have Sister, I am sharing the Word with my group on Zoom and the Bible is the source of everything that I share. I have learned that it isn't my opinion and that it is scripture and scripture alone. I wasn't taught sola scriptura as a child growing up all these years but praise God for these men!
I would agree with MacArthur that the Americas now pagan and that makes the America now more hostile to the church. So Christians and the church now seem more angry and hostile .
Love both these men
Thank God for these 2 godly people who loves Jesus and his words. God bless them!❤
God have mercy on America. Thankful for these Bible scholars and their teachings. 🙏🏻
Listen to John Piper at 11:11:48 “The last thing we want is for people to walk out of church on Sunday, seething with anger at their culture”. WOW! Praise the Lord! What a contrast of what we are seeing at many churches today. What a blessing for me to listen to this truth. Thank you Pastor John Piper.
In recent years, MacArhur and his services have been doing that very thing. That’s why this conversation between both leaders is…interesting.
Yes, may God forgive us for sinful anger, and our selfish indignation! May we be filled with trust for our Sovereign God and the help to do what pleases Him alone!
This is was such an important point for me thanks for pointing out. As I've been frustrated and angry watching everything that's going on. After a couple of weeks I realised that it's really not how I'm called to respond.
John Piper gets it.
Well we should see the culture for what it is. God hates sin, and we are wicked. We should have mercy in our hearts, but we should also hate the evil around us.
John Piper depth and knowledge of scripture has taught many of us.
Because he's a real one.
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I have learned more from these two gentlemen about the gospel then anyone else anywhere! What a blessing these men are!
What gospel, gospel means good news. The two are 5 point calvanist, in calvanism there is no good news. They believe the lord only died for the elect, they the non elect were created for he'll. They believe the none-elect are the majority of the world population, so where's the good news? The elect, they believe, could have been chosen against their will (tulip) so no good news for them either.
Why are they called Not Christians? View UA-cam: " Not Christians?! Why", Come Unto Christ Alma Chapter 30"! Open your heart and Mind! Learn, Ponder about what you have learned, Write down your feelings and impressions, and pray about your impressions! James 1:5 Ask with real intent!
@@lukezandvliet2294 So, to be clear, do you believe therefore that the majority of the world is going to heaven? Because if they're not, explain to us how you think that's 'good news'?
Two amazing men of God. Great blessings indeed. Check out Zak Poonan's work too.
I want to publically thank these faithful brothers for their continuing work. RC is still missed.
The 2 Pastors who have had the greatest impact on my understanding of God's Word! These 2 godly men compliment each other perfectly. I found this conversation thrilling to my own walk in faith. Thank you ✝️
This conversation was such a gift! I am so thankful for these two men and their ministries. What a blessing! Thank you!
23 year old man here looking to become a theology professor and hopefully a pastor one day. MacArthur has been used by God in such a great way in my spiritual walk, and I’ve just recently begun listening to/reading Piper and he has as well. Thank God for these men!
Absolutely LOVE the two John's in conversation focused on the Lord and His Word!
Oh my, why have I only heard this conversation with these two great men only now in 2024?! Thank you gentlemen and may our Dearest Heavenly Father bless you and yours with good health and longevity to keep on guiding your flock. I am listening from the UK.
Am so humbled to listen to these 2 men after Gods own heart.
Thank you Mr Chairman for your introduction and for the carefully worded questions that elicited such profitable responses from two servants of the Lord.
This is really sweet to see both Johns seated and having a candid conversation. What a blessing to have them in our generation. Soli Deo Gloria
@Jim Hammer that is so loving and Christian of you Jim.
They are so humble. Much respect. The church is blessed to have these two men of faith.
"Humble"??? They both are puffed up like peacocks.
Two great men of God who greatly affected my walk with Christ! may the Lord find us faithful on that day!
Such a blessing to me! As a physician in CA, the last 2 questions discussed by Pastor McArthur was significant to me.
I absolutely love both of these men with all my heart! I found my way back to Jesus Christ starting with John Piper and am learning more about myself and my journey now with John MacArthur. Without them, I don’t know where I would be in my life of growing with Christ. I was so lost and broken and tormented after losing my child. So for me, how amazing this moment is to see them both together and to feel so honored to have been changed by them both!
I actually feel a big circle in my life coming together watching this beautiful moment. Thank you both for leading me to Christ and for helping me understand my way after my daughter was taken from me. I am on my journey still until I make it back home with my savior!
God bless you both! ❤✝️
May our faithful Lord continue to bless, fill and heal you as you continue to grow in your faith and journey with Him! Thank you for sharing your story and pain, and journey of how these Godly men have influenced and helped you grow in the knowledge and faith of Christ! Can you imaging your loss with out knowing the LORD?? Thank God you know Him! 🙏🏻👏♥️
What I love about these men of God is that they are having a friendly conversation and both of them have their Bibles right by their sides.....very honorable, it represents their love for the word of God.
WOW, just WOW!!!!! When I read about great men that were lovers of God and blessed this earth with their teachings, knowledge, passion for Christ and rich experiences of Him I often feel jealous of those who lived during their times.... so I feel incredibly blessed to live during this time. There aren't many like Piper... he has validated so many of my beliefs and thoughts as a Christian and im especially grateful for him. May the Lord continue to bless them both of these men abundantly for their sacrifice, their boldness in the faith and their unwavering commitment to the Lord. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Amen Patricia!!
I, Pastor John MacArthur, give infinite thanks to God for using him preciously and preciously. I will gain victory in the name of Jesus.
I'm currently only at 35:44 of this conversation and I'm struck by how beneficial it is to hear the experiences of these two great servants of the Lord and expositors of His word. Not only in understanding my individual position in the body and what I believe my calling to be, but also benefits in comprehending God's working..."providence" in all of our lives as the chosen of God. On another subject, just 12 years ago I would not have even known what arminianism was, and how it was distinguished from Calvanism. For me, I simply discovered that the way I understood God's word was in keeping with what these reformed preachers were teaching. As a teaching elder, I found myself at odds with all of the other leaders of my Arminianist church, and so, was ostracised, yet for the sake of the members who still embraced me and my exegesis/hermenuetics (I felt the need to bring them along with me), I hung in for another five years. Only to now find myself alone, without a church home, not wanting to place membership in a church of any particular denomination. My previous church no longer exists but gave everything to a truly non-biblical church, including the house I was living in. Currently attending a 2RP church. Besides my sophomoric writings, I'm feeling rather fruitless and turning 65 this year. Prayers appreciated.
These two just puff each other up and neither are Calvinists. Calvin would roll over in his grave if he could. They are carnal.
I love these men. What an example they are. You can actually see the sincerity. The attention one gives the other when the other talks is priceless yet they are so knowledgeable.
I never get tired of listening to these 2 guys and of-course the late RC...excellent teachers of
G-D's Word..
I wanted to say that I'm so grateful to God for these men and for John macarthur because of his teaching of God's word and reading the Bible I was saved I was convicted by God's word and could not bear my sin anymore I needed to repent and ask my Lord Jesus Christ forgiveness for my sins and repent and I believe in what he did for me on the cross and read and heard the pain he went through for me because he loved me so I could love him and receive salvation in his name.
I'm glad seeing them together but also suddens at the same time because sooner or later God is going to call them to glory. Especially having listening to J Mac for so long.
God bless John Piper and John MacArthur, so thankful for their ministries. "Oh,The joy of having nothing and being nothing, seeing nothing but a living Christ in glory, and being careful for nothing but His interest down here." - JND
God bless John MacArthur! I learn so much from him. He has blessed me greatly with his sermons and teachings and his books.
This video is wonderful! I am so grateful for these shepherds whose lives have been poured out for His purposes. . .
Thank you to the guys who produced this video. The quality massively helps the viewing/listening 🙏
Praise God for these men!
Man, I smiled so much listening to these two men dialogue and reminisce. Very thankful for the work God has done through these two and I'm blessed to be growing up in a time where I have such plentiful access to solid teaching from them, as well as others.
Thank you pastor John Piper , pastor John MacArthur for your joyful Ministry and Biblical Theology ! 2 TIMOTHY 1:8 Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony about our LORD, nor of me his prisoner, but share in suffering for the Gospel by the power of GOD, who Saved us and Called us to a Holy Calling, nor because of our works but because of His own purpose and grace, which HE gave us in CHRIST JESUS before the ages began.
This was funny, enlightening, joyful and wonderful to watch! Both of these men have had a huge impact on my own theology and growth in Christ. I am so grateful for their faithfulness to God's word and their standing unashamed before the lost world!
These two Pastors are the best for me, I always watch their videos. May God bless them both
Love these 2 men. The impact they have had on my life is beyond words.
@Jim Hammer how's that?
@Jim Hammer can I ask what your problem is with the Trinity? I get it, I wouldn't go as far as you do on not liking him, but I get how he can come off a little arrogant. I totally disagree with dispensation, and absolutely do not believe in pre-trib rapture. But I am interested in your view of the Trinity.
@Jim Hammer no, no questions. I feel bad for you that you don't understand these things. Not that I am any better or smarter or more worthy than you, you can only understand these things through the Holy Spirit, He that gives you eyes to see and and faith to believe. All the things you pointed out for example having 2 nature's and being subordinate to the Father and not eternally existing etc. Are very easily understandable through the Holy Spirit! To say that God cannot do these things is limiting God and putting Him in a box. Can God not limit himself if He pleases? Can God not manifest Himself in human flesh if He pleases? Jesus is subordinate to the Father in role only not in nature. I will pray for you Jim, as long as you have breath in you it is not too late to repent! With all love in Christ I pray you see the truth!
@Jim Hammer why so hateful?, maybe that's why you feel run off. Maybe just maybe it's you not everyone else? 😕
All denominations combine the gospel of the kingdom (which Jesus and the 12 taught) with the gospel of the grace of God, which ONLY Paul taught.
The gospel that Jesus Christ taught is John 3:16 - " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
With the John 3:16 (gospel of the kingdom) you have to keep the Law of Moses to be saved!
Matthew 19:17 - ""And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
With the gospel of the kingdom, you have to endure until the end to be saved!
Mathew 24:13- - "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
With the gospel of the grace of God (I Corinthians 15:1-4) we are saved (at the exact moment) when we believe the gospel.
Ephesians 1:13-14 - "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
I Corinthians 15:1-4
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.
The gospel of the grace of God is the gospel by which Jesus Christ was raised from the dead.
II Timothy 2:8 - "Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel."
We will be judged by Paul's gospel.
Romans 2:16 - "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel."
Do you want to have your sins forgiven by Paul's gospel, be saved by believing Paul's gospel, and be raised from the dead by Paul's gospel, or do you want to listen to a false gospel preached by false denominational preachers?
Things changed after the cross...
Mighty leaders in the faith. I have learned so much from them both. I spent 40 yrs listening to John Mac Arthur, and many with Piper as well ....after I found him. Such sincere love for God and His people. They bring much glory to our Savior. God bless them both! ❤️
WOW. To God be the Glory!
Two fantastic men of God on stage together. I shall read the "The Gospel According to Jesus Book" mentioned in the beginning & I am truly thankful to both Pastor Dr John Piper (Desiring God) and Pastor Dr John MacArthur (Grace to you) for the impact that they have had on my life due to their faithfulness to the Lord Jesus Christ.
And I'd also like to thank God for their ministries and the number of lives God has blessed, touched, regenerated and sanctified through them.
God bless you all for watching this. God bless you two amazing pastors and your ministries.
Amen!
Love these two godly men of Christ! I have listened to hours and hours of teaching and supplemental discipleship for more than a decade. Both clearly and faithfully in the body of Christ, preach the word! Even with some agreements, they still hold together to teach and preach the Gospel, blessings to them!
Thank you Father GOD for the life of these fathers who really care for souls.
In a prayer meeting at my local church a week ago, a woman was praying for persecution in America to refine the lazy, lax, and weak church. It was the first time I ever heard that and couldn't argue with that truth. The reinforcement of that truth in this Q&A is....providence. :) Praise our Master Jesus Christ. This video felt so short. Quickest hour and a half I have experienced in a long time.
Listening to this again! What a joy to hear these 2 greatly respected men of God.
Praise be to God for these Pastors , and preaching the Truth of Gods Word Amen . I am so looking forward to heaven and listening to these pastors. Love luba
Love the Truth! Love the Gospel!
Love the LORD with all your heart, mind and soul!
Praise God for these men of God!
John MacArthur has been solid rock through the years for millions of people!! Thank you for always teaching the Word of God!
And John Piper, whom I know less of, has a heart for God, so evident in the sermons and books he’s written.
All the glory be to God!
My walk with The Lord hasn't been the same since I started listening to the clear, profound and powerful teachings of these men of God along with RC Sproul, Sugel Michelen, Miguel Núñez and others that faithfully preach and teach the Sovereignty and Grace of God. I'm deeply grateful to The Lord for using these teacers in my life. Thank you for sharing this video.
These are good men. God bless and keep them for their faithfulness.
These men are students of the Bible Disciples of Christ….in this day in age it’s a blessing to have men who are unashamed of the Gospel!
Yahweh be praised.
I am so glad I listened to this. I feel so blessed, and I can't even deny it. Not one bit.
JP and JM are both as funny as they are fierce. Love these duo so very much. God bless!
God's men, Who know how to evangelized. The way they preach makes It easy to better understand the Word of our Almighty God.
Blessings
John Piper is Amazing in how he has led me to see the love of God
Amen!! Me too 💯💕❤️👐😋😋😋
Actually it is JESUS who is AMAZING!
right there with you brother
True. Very True. The one unique thing about Rev. Piper.
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I love this so much. It has such great meaning, to show brothers who disagree, loving one another so fiercely. Thank you.
Yeah, I don't know why, but first 10 or more minutes of their conversation, confessing appreciation for each other made my eyes tear up. I don't know why but I am just crying listening to them. Just beautiful seeing these two on the same stage.
2 of the absolute best that bring glory to God thru their lives and teaching. What powerful examples of God's grace.
This is just awesome... glorifying God, I love these men, so good to hear them together, bouncing their ideas together like pebbles into a still pool, causing ripples in me that bring conviction and peace. I thank God for you dear brothers, very dear brothers.
Praise God for these men. They were so much responsible for my growth in ChristIts Ajoy to watch them. May the Lord bless them abundantly.
The first words that came out from my mouth was I love you guys! Faithful servants of our King, Lord and Treasure Jesus Christ! I thank God for you!
God raised Pastor John MacArthur as the best spiritual leader in America 🇺🇸 God deserves the glory We will gain victory in the name of Jesus I love you Jesus Lord my God I love you I love you very much
Thank you for helping me become the man God planned me to be Mr Piper and MacArthur, I have been listening you two since I was 19 when I was saved. Love from Brazil.
I was 19 also, Grace to You, on the radio. That was over 32 years ago.
Praise God. I have been listening to these two starting near the end of the pandemic till now that I’m in college.
Thank God for the faithful pulpit ministry of these and other like-minded men
This video made my night , thanking God YHWH the Lord Almighty for these two wonderful pastors and my brothers in Christ.
What an incredible conversation. It has blessed my soul today! It also led me to order both “Providence” and “Desiring God.” Can’t wait to read them!
Desiring God is the only so-called Christian book I ever binned. It"s Calvinism.
Thank you for this. My church has been searching for a faithful pastor for about 2 years. This helps inform my prayers while we are searching. I have grown as I learned from both Johns. I am glad to live at a time when the teaching of such men, as well as the Puritans and others, is so available. We need men to flesh out the Gospel; there are too many fluffing it out. As always God is Himself faithful - to His Word and His people. At the right time He will lead the right man to us. Thank you all for this encouragement.
I could listen to them all day! God bless you both 😭
This is Epic. May the Lord raise up millions upon millions of Piper and MacArthur's.
If I am even a little bit this wise and love God as much as these guys at my old age (and be THIS awesome!) then I will be satisfied. May we all love the Lord God will all our hearts, all our minds, and with all our souls and love His Word that we may be able to stand boldly and strongly, immovable, against the Enemy.
My favorite preachers alongside Voddie Bauchman and Paul Washer. Also, shoutout to the preacher from my home state John Piper, from Minnesota. May God cover both even more for us and bless them abundantly.
What a wonderful multi-faceted discussion from two very wise pastors. Thankful for them today and thankful for my pastors who are faithful men of the gospel.
I found this q&a so very helpful. Thank you. I find it fascinating: these two men have such different personalities and so while they both stay faithful to the word, each man compliments the other in such a way that rounds out each others answers. It makes me think of how, in the gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke and John captured and focused on different aspects of Jesus’ ministry. God has created each of us uniquely and we need each other to glorify Him.
Agreed, Nick...isn't it wonderful how our God gives differing gifts and talents and personalities to us to use in His church and our world--yet have so many of us from so many different background come together in Christ and His Word?
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I can’t even begin to explain my gratitude to the Lord for the work He’s done through these men. I want them to know that the Lord is GLORIFIED because through their preaching, I find Joy, peace, love, and SATISFACTION in the Lord because of the passions and the gifts that the Lord has given them. Thank God for them, and thank you John, and John 🙏🏻
Johnny Mac The Vanishing Conscience sharpened me up. Piper Christian Hedonism teaching is awesome for spiritual warfare. Iron sharpens iron. I believe these men love God. And are used by God to help me on my way to do the same.
Beautiful brotherly love in the Lord! God bless you Pastor John P. and Pastor John M. now and always!
God Be praised and forever for His Holy Word. And His Name be praised, for earthen vessels He also chose through which, His Word (Jesus) is preached to lost sinners (2 Cor 4:3-7). May the LORD Who called you both keep you faithful to the Truth till the very end (1 Cor 4:2, Eph 6:19). I have been very blessed by you both over years. Remain richly blessed.
Fascinating talk! Loved hearing their testimonies, however it was extremely helpful at 45 min when they spoke about the roles of the government and Church. Eating this up!
Glory be to God... For these men
2 different men with different approaches listening to each other respectfully. More of this needed on Christian circles
I am so inspired by these two amazing God fearing men. I love their love and passion for the Truth and for people.
Love Pastor John Mac.. his a gem, looking a lot older.. been at it a long time. Hope he has blessed 2024.
I feel honored to listen to the both of these great men of God share their views on such matters. I have respected both for quite some time now. It seems the the truth is on a fine line between both of their views and I have profited much from being able to see both through the years May God bless them both in the coming days and years to come with the same Profound love of the Lord as I have always seen in them. Will keep them both in our prayers 🙏
I totally understand these men's doctrine. It the the truth and it is sound , good counseling of God! Amen!
The word does the work, bringing forth The Spirit in the heart, and then the world.
In my journey from Catholicism to Protestantism these men were influential in seeking a deeper understanding of the bible. I lacked a way to live the Christian faith though and I prayed to God to help me find the Church that was like in the book of Acts. I am grateful for leading me into Eastern Orthodox Christianity. The Gates of Hell has never prevailed against the true Faith and Body of Christ. Glory to God!
This conversation between two lions of the faith is just marvelous!
Thank YOU JESUS for using these people For YOUR Glory
So grateful for these two men and for this interchange. Beautiful.
Amen!!!i really love these men and im so so grateful to God always for their teachings..may the Lord Jesus truly bless them and their family!
Greetings from Philipppines🩷🇵🇭
Beautiful!! God used (and still does use) both of your online ministries to play an ENORMOUS part in my learning about the beauty and sovereignty of our Lord Jesus Christ when I was a brand new believer. I am eternally grateful for that. Thank you for dedicating your life to God via the pastorate so that others might know His glory 🙏🏽
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Love and respect are the key to success in life. Thank you Pastor's for your faithfulness to Jesus and his people.
I cannot thank Our Lord God enough for John's teaching, no matter what he teaches from the Word I always, excitedly walkaway filled with, love, peace and the joy of the Lord.... Thank you John. My God continue to bless you and your amazing ministry.