A Conversation with John Piper & John MacArthur: 2022
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- Date: October 7, 2022
Conference: Puritan Conference
Moderator: Nathan Busenitz
00:00 What Do You Appreciate About Each Other’s Ministry?
16:05 About the Book ‘Providence’
22:19 How Were You Called into Pastoral Ministry?
35:49 Advice for New Pastors
45:45 What Is the Pastor’s Role in Speaking God’s Truth to Political Rulers?
56:26 How Can Christians in America Prepare for Persecution?
01:14:16 How Have the Puritans Shaped Your Life and Ministry?
These two men, along with RC, are responsible for bringing me out of the prosperity gospel and into biblical Christianity. I am forever grateful to these men.
Praise God!
Prosperity gospel? Haven't read that book
@@mickeypearce244 it’s not a book.
Bro theres no such thing as prosoperity gospel..
@@sannysorianojrbat-ao8935 awesome bro
I am from Pakistan. I am involved in the ministry of teaching and preaching. This talk immensely blessed me and I even recommend to many people to listen to this. These two men have had a strong influence in my formational years of ministry and even now the formation process is going on. I pray that we all stay faithful to God and His Word. All glory and honor belongs to Him alone.
Thanks for your diligent work, brother!
@@misternewman1576 thanks brother
Keep fighting the good fight, brother. May God bless you in your work.
What you wrote gave me joy in my soul God bless what you are doing for him and his kingdom brother in Christ 🙏
For REAL???! A Christian brother in Pakistan??? You gotta be a warrior! I hope and pray that you are safe, and you are now on my prayer list. I would really like to hear all about your testimony.
From Nigeria John Piper and Macarthur has really helped our Theology. i just hope one day They will visit Nigeria
That would be really cool! Much love from the US :)
I really hope they would come visit Nigeria soon! I am seeing this conversation for the third time…
God's blessings to Nigeria. It is difficult there without a doubt. Praise God for the faith and devotion of our Nigerian brothers and sisters.
I'm Nigerian too❤
Where are you in Nigeria? I am a Nigerian and I have not seen or heard of any Nigerian pastor that focuses on preaching the word as it should. Most are all about prosperity. Where do you worship so I can worship with you if you are in Lagos
I am in Rwanda, I have been personally impacted by both John Piper and John MarcArthur, they are spiritual giants and many people in the world have been blessed by how these men respect the Bible
I can appreciate them both after having spent five decades confined by all things Charismatic, especially that which tended toward the most erroneous proclamations.
I began listening to John Macarthur in the early 80s during my lunch breaks at the VA hospital where I worked. I didn't know anything about Piper in those days, but I have learned to love his teachings just as much. The truth is, the great majority of Charismatic communities do not have a well established structure of Scriptures that forms sound doctrine. Instead, they rush to their meetings to fall to the floor. Oh, they might hear a "message" that is spoken, but, as Piper says, it acts like the coffee percolator that bubbles, and in time, readies the attendees for the emotional shaking that leads to ecstacy which they say is the presence of God.
You have no idea how much this blessed me as a young 27 year old pastor. Thank you so much for sharing this and making this possible. It is my desire by God's grace to grow old serving Christ just like these two. . .😊❤️❤️much love from the Philippines!!! 🙏🙏🙏
God bless and keep you and give you abundant grace and strength for His work. Blessings and Love from Nigeria.
Any advice for someone who’s looking to become a pastor??
Wow, much love from the Philippines? I'm an "American" who lived there for close to 10 years and , with a few exceptions, the last thing I experienced was "much love." In fact, I would suggest, that unless you're specifically called to go there, avoid that country at all costs.
God bless saiyo, brother.❤
I'm dealing with immense pain inside and out, anyone reading this willing to pray for me I Thank you!!
@Laur S thank you for your heart for praying for others amidst your own suffering. Have prayed for your as well. Rom8:38-39.
I am praying for you dear one. The Lord God, Creator of Heaven and earth through and for Jesus Christ will bring you comfort and relief in His time. He allows us to suffer terrible things so that we may be cleansed and sanctified, prepared to be with Him eternally. I pray your faith will not fail but would be strengthened during this difficult trial. God loves you and He is holding you fast. Seek Him everyday. Wait on Him. Trust for endurance and patience. He will bring you out a new person. His mercy is endless and His love never fails. Thank you for sharing your pain with someone like me who knows personally the distress you are experiencing. God is faithful. He is doing a great work in you. Hang in there!🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️
@@ellenpearl6466amen, me too.
Praying for you!
Came across this comment today and pray God continues to make you strong both in your suffering and as you’re suffering abates. May you see Christ through the suffering that you experience both in the flesh of the people around you who know Christ and seek to serve you as well as spiritually as he brings you the peace that passes all comprehension, even though you suffer. Much love from Texas.
My grandson, at 27 yrs old, suggested I start going online for John Piper's messages. It has been a true blessing because JP and JM both have the fundamental teachings that I appreciate. They are irreplaceable in this time but I do hope they can pass the faith to young men who will multiply their teachings and a great revival can come upon our country and even the world.
Great idea, i listen from abroad.
Amen.
They have Sister, I am sharing the Word with my group on Zoom and the Bible is the source of everything that I share. I have learned that it isn't my opinion and that it is scripture and scripture alone. I wasn't taught sola scriptura as a child growing up all these years but praise God for these men!
I would agree with MacArthur that the Americas now pagan and that makes the America now more hostile to the church. So Christians and the church now seem more angry and hostile .
Love both these men
John McCarther has given me something I cannot put into words. He preaches the Truth and for that I will always be grateful. Thank you God for your son Jesus Christ who died and shed His precious blood for me. The Holy Spirit who guides me and the gospel that changes me day by day. Amen
Well he kinda forgets about the Holy Spirit…a lot. But yeah other than that I guess he’s ok
It’s been a while since I’ve seen JM and JP together on the same stage. Thankful for their faithfulness to the ministry and for their fervency in sharing the gospel. As a 19 y/o I’ve learned much from both of them, and it was JP’s messages that helped shape my theology of suffering. I have been dealing with chronic pain and illness for 7 years… recently discovered I have Lyme disease.
The Holy Spirit speaks through these men. I look forward to meeting them one day.
Hi Addy…I’m sorry that you have Lyme disease. It’s prevalent in our family. Look up Dr. Berg and the Keto diet.
Hi again Addy…I should have said “Dr. Berg Lyme desease”. If you scroll down, you will come to a lot of videos and one by a Dr. Rawls. There is a book called “Why Can’t I Get Well?”. It’s all about Lyme. D you have a verified Lyme doctor near you, someone who is educated in Lyme disease? That would be ideal. You could do a search for a Lyme doctor in, or close to, your area. And check his/her credentials if there is one. I’ll pray for you. May God bless you in your search.
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All denominations combine the gospel of the kingdom (which Jesus and the 12 taught) with the gospel of the grace of God, which ONLY Paul taught.
The gospel that Jesus Christ taught is John 3:16 - " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
With the John 3:16 (gospel of the kingdom) you have to keep the Law of Moses to be saved!
Matthew 19:17 - ""And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
With the gospel of the kingdom, you have to endure until the end to be saved!
Mathew 24:13- - "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
With the gospel of the grace of God (I Corinthians 15:1-4) we are saved (at the exact moment) when we believe the gospel.
Ephesians 1:13-14 - "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
I Corinthians 15:1-4
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.
The gospel of the grace of God is the gospel by which Jesus Christ was raised from the dead.
II Timothy 2:8 - "Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel."
We will be judged by Paul's gospel.
Romans 2:16 - "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel."
Do you want to have your sins forgiven by Paul's gospel, be saved by believing Paul's gospel, and be raised from the dead by Paul's gospel, or do you want to listen to a false gospel preached by false denominational preachers?
Things changed after the cross...
So these 2 men are mediators for you to Jesus?
I live in Sri Lanka. Nobody knows that I am reformed except for my wife,family and few friends. I am surrounded with pentacostal / word off faith churches whom alos are semi pelegians. Lord used these two men, Dr RC and Washer to help me come out of that pentacostal heratical darkness. Eventhoug they dont know me, I love them dearly. If I couldnt hug them in this part of life I will hug fhem and tell them how thankful I am for them in Christ. All glory, thank amd honor to my loving saviour Jesus Christ!
Amen! Thanks for sharing, we might be in the minority, but we see more of God's glory brother!
John Piper is Amazing in how he has led me to see the love of God
Amen!! Me too 💯💕❤️👐😋😋😋
Actually it is JESUS who is AMAZING!
right there with you brother
True. Very True. The one unique thing about Rev. Piper.
@@newtonocharimenyenya2458 what is?
I want to publically thank these faithful brothers for their continuing work. RC is still missed.
John Piper depth and knowledge of scripture has taught many of us.
Because he's a real one.
@@Findaway2day what must you do to be saved?
They are so humble. Much respect. The church is blessed to have these two men of faith.
God has used These two men and Voddie to radically change my view of Christianity and open my eyes. Praise God for them.
God have mercy on America. Thankful for these Bible scholars and their teachings. 🙏🏻
Listen to John Piper at 11:11:48 “The last thing we want is for people to walk out of church on Sunday, seething with anger at their culture”. WOW! Praise the Lord! What a contrast of what we are seeing at many churches today. What a blessing for me to listen to this truth. Thank you Pastor John Piper.
In recent years, MacArhur and his services have been doing that very thing. That’s why this conversation between both leaders is…interesting.
Yes, may God forgive us for sinful anger, and our selfish indignation! May we be filled with trust for our Sovereign God and the help to do what pleases Him alone!
This is was such an important point for me thanks for pointing out. As I've been frustrated and angry watching everything that's going on. After a couple of weeks I realised that it's really not how I'm called to respond.
John Piper gets it.
Well we should see the culture for what it is. God hates sin, and we are wicked. We should have mercy in our hearts, but we should also hate the evil around us.
Absolutely LOVE the two John's in conversation focused on the Lord and His Word!
I have learned more from these two gentlemen about the gospel then anyone else anywhere! What a blessing these men are!
What gospel, gospel means good news. The two are 5 point calvanist, in calvanism there is no good news. They believe the lord only died for the elect, they the non elect were created for he'll. They believe the none-elect are the majority of the world population, so where's the good news? The elect, they believe, could have been chosen against their will (tulip) so no good news for them either.
Why are they called Not Christians? View UA-cam: " Not Christians?! Why", Come Unto Christ Alma Chapter 30"! Open your heart and Mind! Learn, Ponder about what you have learned, Write down your feelings and impressions, and pray about your impressions! James 1:5 Ask with real intent!
@@lukezandvliet2294 So, to be clear, do you believe therefore that the majority of the world is going to heaven? Because if they're not, explain to us how you think that's 'good news'?
Two amazing men of God. Great blessings indeed. Check out Zak Poonan's work too.
Am so humbled to listen to these 2 men after Gods own heart.
This conversation was such a gift! I am so thankful for these two men and their ministries. What a blessing! Thank you!
My favorite preachers alongside Voddie Bauchman and Paul Washer. Also, shoutout to the preacher from my home state John Piper, from Minnesota. May God cover both even more for us and bless them abundantly.
Two great men of God who greatly affected my walk with Christ! may the Lord find us faithful on that day!
This is really sweet to see both Johns seated and having a candid conversation. What a blessing to have them in our generation. Soli Deo Gloria
@Jim Hammer that is so loving and Christian of you Jim.
Praise God for these men!
I, Pastor John MacArthur, give infinite thanks to God for using him preciously and preciously. I will gain victory in the name of Jesus.
I could listen to them all day! God bless you both 😭
I'm glad seeing them together but also suddens at the same time because sooner or later God is going to call them to glory. Especially having listening to J Mac for so long.
Such a blessing to me! As a physician in CA, the last 2 questions discussed by Pastor McArthur was significant to me.
Love these 2 men. The impact they have had on my life is beyond words.
@Jim Hammer how's that?
@Jim Hammer can I ask what your problem is with the Trinity? I get it, I wouldn't go as far as you do on not liking him, but I get how he can come off a little arrogant. I totally disagree with dispensation, and absolutely do not believe in pre-trib rapture. But I am interested in your view of the Trinity.
@Jim Hammer no, no questions. I feel bad for you that you don't understand these things. Not that I am any better or smarter or more worthy than you, you can only understand these things through the Holy Spirit, He that gives you eyes to see and and faith to believe. All the things you pointed out for example having 2 nature's and being subordinate to the Father and not eternally existing etc. Are very easily understandable through the Holy Spirit! To say that God cannot do these things is limiting God and putting Him in a box. Can God not limit himself if He pleases? Can God not manifest Himself in human flesh if He pleases? Jesus is subordinate to the Father in role only not in nature. I will pray for you Jim, as long as you have breath in you it is not too late to repent! With all love in Christ I pray you see the truth!
@Jim Hammer why so hateful?, maybe that's why you feel run off. Maybe just maybe it's you not everyone else? 😕
All denominations combine the gospel of the kingdom (which Jesus and the 12 taught) with the gospel of the grace of God, which ONLY Paul taught.
The gospel that Jesus Christ taught is John 3:16 - " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
With the John 3:16 (gospel of the kingdom) you have to keep the Law of Moses to be saved!
Matthew 19:17 - ""And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
With the gospel of the kingdom, you have to endure until the end to be saved!
Mathew 24:13- - "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
With the gospel of the grace of God (I Corinthians 15:1-4) we are saved (at the exact moment) when we believe the gospel.
Ephesians 1:13-14 - "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
I Corinthians 15:1-4
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.
The gospel of the grace of God is the gospel by which Jesus Christ was raised from the dead.
II Timothy 2:8 - "Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel."
We will be judged by Paul's gospel.
Romans 2:16 - "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel."
Do you want to have your sins forgiven by Paul's gospel, be saved by believing Paul's gospel, and be raised from the dead by Paul's gospel, or do you want to listen to a false gospel preached by false denominational preachers?
Things changed after the cross...
I didn’t want it to end either. I enjoyed it immensely! Thank you so much!
Yeah, I don't know why, but first 10 or more minutes of their conversation, confessing appreciation for each other made my eyes tear up. I don't know why but I am just crying listening to them. Just beautiful seeing these two on the same stage.
2 of the absolute best that bring glory to God thru their lives and teaching. What powerful examples of God's grace.
This conversation between two lions of the faith is just marvelous!
Thank you to the guys who produced this video. The quality massively helps the viewing/listening 🙏
I love listening to conversations like this. It certainly keeps my hopes for ministry alive. The Lord has blessed his church with faithful men.
Man, I smiled so much listening to these two men dialogue and reminisce. Very thankful for the work God has done through these two and I'm blessed to be growing up in a time where I have such plentiful access to solid teaching from them, as well as others.
I absolutely love both of these men with all my heart! I found my way back to Jesus Christ starting with John Piper and am learning more about myself and my journey now with John MacArthur. Without them, I don’t know where I would be in my life of growing with Christ. I was so lost and broken and tormented after losing my child. So for me, how amazing this moment is to see them both together and to feel so honored to have been changed by them both!
I actually feel a big circle in my life coming together watching this beautiful moment. Thank you both for leading me to Christ and for helping me understand my way after my daughter was taken from me. I am on my journey still until I make it back home with my savior!
God bless you both! ❤✝️
May our faithful Lord continue to bless, fill and heal you as you continue to grow in your faith and journey with Him! Thank you for sharing your story and pain, and journey of how these Godly men have influenced and helped you grow in the knowledge and faith of Christ! Can you imaging your loss with out knowing the LORD?? Thank God you know Him! 🙏🏻👏♥️
What a great conversation. A very good conference
Both of these men have helped me tremendously with my walk with God. Where ever you line up on the charismatic vs cessationist debate both of these guys are great pastors!
The word does the work, bringing forth The Spirit in the heart, and then the world.
WOW, just WOW!!!!! When I read about great men that were lovers of God and blessed this earth with their teachings, knowledge, passion for Christ and rich experiences of Him I often feel jealous of those who lived during their times.... so I feel incredibly blessed to live during this time. There aren't many like Piper... he has validated so many of my beliefs and thoughts as a Christian and im especially grateful for him. May the Lord continue to bless them both of these men abundantly for their sacrifice, their boldness in the faith and their unwavering commitment to the Lord. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Amen Patricia!!
Listening to this again! What a joy to hear these 2 greatly respected men of God.
This video is wonderful! I am so grateful for these shepherds whose lives have been poured out for His purposes. . .
I could stay more and more. I'm enjoying this fruitful conversation. How I wish Brother Paul Washer would have this kind of conversation with these two doctors on screen. 😊I love these people.
What a huge blessing to begin my day with. I pray for God to keep blessing them with health to be with us
as we attempt to walk in God's Holy Word 🙏.
learn More and More on UA-cam: "Come Unto Christ, Alma 30"! Study it out, write down your impressions and feelings, Pray about your impressions as directed in James 1:5!
And Voddie Bauchman also an incredible man of God.
This was funny, enlightening, joyful and wonderful to watch! Both of these men have had a huge impact on my own theology and growth in Christ. I am so grateful for their faithfulness to God's word and their standing unashamed before the lost world!
This is Epic. May the Lord raise up millions upon millions of Piper and MacArthur's.
Love both of these men! The practicality and clarity they help bring to scripture is refreshing and challenges my traditional thought.
excellent dialog. I listened to it twice. Highly recommended. Blessings
These are good men. God bless and keep them for their faithfulness.
Thank you Father GOD for the life of these fathers who really care for souls.
These guys so awesome! Thank you to the both of you for helping to bring me out of wrong thinking/teaching and slowing ebay it looks like to love the Lord and to live my life accordingly 🙏❤️ may the Lord continue to bless both of your ministries
they’re so cool.. let’s not forget to include the pastors in our prayers.. i thank God for this talk
We are in need of a great repentence revival. Jonah and the city of Nineveh comes to my mind and in my prayers. As always, Pastor John Piper and Pastor John Macarthur, you are in my prayers continuously, that our Good Lord, Jesus Christ, through the power of His Holy Spirit will continue to give you strenght (especially when you grow weary) and good health (as we all need your guidance and leadership and sound Biblical teaching).
The key to that story in Jonah is the people believed God. That's why they repented. The Bible is amazing
Only The Lord can accomplish the gift of the movement of a repentance or, a Revival in Christ Jesus. The past shows this to be Truth. Even we see plainly it would be of great benefit. Only God can Will this into existence. Asking Him, through prayer, and discussion I believe is His Will.
Letting the world know through a post on any website is not the way to get God’s attention. God is a jealous God.All Glory is His. When I see, and read these prayers online. I often wonder if these
Petitions that require God’s Sovereign power are given From our hearts to Jesus, instead of a post
On a social platform to be seen by men. This is where the internet has changed Relationship with Jesus over time.
This is not at all judgement. I think it when I read many posts as well as when I prepared to write this
Post to be honest. God alone deserves all forms of our passions to Pray for His Will to be done!
God Bless all my brethren in Christ😊
In total agreement with you brother amen
@@bobbie1961...and Amen Bobbie. Thank you, brother, many blessings to you and your's.
I feel honored to listen to the both of these great men of God share their views on such matters. I have respected both for quite some time now. It seems the the truth is on a fine line between both of their views and I have profited much from being able to see both through the years May God bless them both in the coming days and years to come with the same Profound love of the Lord as I have always seen in them. Will keep them both in our prayers 🙏
Loved listening to this conversation.
Thank you so much & God bless you I could've easily listened to this for as long as you could've kept it going ❤
Yahweh be praised.
I am so glad I listened to this. I feel so blessed, and I can't even deny it. Not one bit.
JP and JM are both as funny as they are fierce. Love these duo so very much. God bless!
The first words that came out from my mouth was I love you guys! Faithful servants of our King, Lord and Treasure Jesus Christ! I thank God for you!
Love and respect are the key to success in life. Thank you Pastor's for your faithfulness to Jesus and his people.
Love these two godly men of Christ! I have listened to hours and hours of teaching and supplemental discipleship for more than a decade. Both clearly and faithfully in the body of Christ, preach the word! Even with some agreements, they still hold together to teach and preach the Gospel, blessings to them!
God Be praised and forever for His Holy Word. And His Name be praised, for earthen vessels He also chose through which, His Word (Jesus) is preached to lost sinners (2 Cor 4:3-7). May the LORD Who called you both keep you faithful to the Truth till the very end (1 Cor 4:2, Eph 6:19). I have been very blessed by you both over years. Remain richly blessed.
What I love about these men of God is that they are having a friendly conversation and both of them have their Bibles right by their sides.....very honorable, it represents their love for the word of God.
Fascinating talk! Loved hearing their testimonies, however it was extremely helpful at 45 min when they spoke about the roles of the government and Church. Eating this up!
Praise God for these men. They were so much responsible for my growth in ChristIts Ajoy to watch them. May the Lord bless them abundantly.
I never get tired of listening to these 2 guys and of-course the late RC...excellent teachers of
G-D's Word..
WOW. To God be the Glory!
Two fantastic men of God on stage together. I shall read the "The Gospel According to Jesus Book" mentioned in the beginning & I am truly thankful to both Pastor Dr John Piper (Desiring God) and Pastor Dr John MacArthur (Grace to you) for the impact that they have had on my life due to their faithfulness to the Lord Jesus Christ.
And I'd also like to thank God for their ministries and the number of lives God has blessed, touched, regenerated and sanctified through them.
God bless you all for watching this. God bless you two amazing pastors and your ministries.
Amen!
2 amazing men of God..... Amazing wisdom coming from this.
Beautiful brotherly love in the Lord! God bless you Pastor John P. and Pastor John M. now and always!
This video made my night , thanking God YHWH the Lord Almighty for these two wonderful pastors and my brothers in Christ.
Thank you Jesus for these two humble leaders of the faith and teachers of the word of God!Both have blessed my life in the most tremendous ways! 💕
So encouraging. Made me realise how much I need to study more the word of God to love according to his ways!
What a wonderful multi-faceted discussion from two very wise pastors. Thankful for them today and thankful for my pastors who are faithful men of the gospel.
In a prayer meeting at my local church a week ago, a woman was praying for persecution in America to refine the lazy, lax, and weak church. It was the first time I ever heard that and couldn't argue with that truth. The reinforcement of that truth in this Q&A is....providence. :) Praise our Master Jesus Christ. This video felt so short. Quickest hour and a half I have experienced in a long time.
Love the Truth! Love the Gospel!
Love the LORD with all your heart, mind and soul!
Praise God for these men of God!
John MacArthur has been solid rock through the years for millions of people!! Thank you for always teaching the Word of God!
And John Piper, whom I know less of, has a heart for God, so evident in the sermons and books he’s written.
All the glory be to God!
Thank you for your ministry it is so uplifting
I love both of these men in the Lord and am glad to see them seeking unity in Gods Word which is biblical and humble like the great example given to us by Christ in taking on flesh and dying on the cross to be united to His beloved bride the church (Philippians 1-2). To lovingly soften a few things I would only add that I didn’t find that John MacArthurs comments about our apostate culture left me seething but rather they gave me hope to draw near to the Lord in suffering and hope that the rapture and end times are coming soon. John Piper gave hope we can rejoice in suffering as well. Both responses are Biblical and should remind us of biblical exhortations to have hope, love, joy, and longing for Christs imminent return and the marriage of the bride of Christ to her Beloved Savior very soon! Praise the Lord He is coming. Yes Lord come quickly! Amen
God bless John MacArthur! I learn so much from him. He has blessed me greatly with his sermons and teachings and his books.
So grateful for these two men and for this interchange. Beautiful.
I wanted to say that I'm so grateful to God for these men and for John macarthur because of his teaching of God's word and reading the Bible I was saved I was convicted by God's word and could not bear my sin anymore I needed to repent and ask my Lord Jesus Christ forgiveness for my sins and repent and I believe in what he did for me on the cross and read and heard the pain he went through for me because he loved me so I could love him and receive salvation in his name.
2 different men with different approaches listening to each other respectfully. More of this needed on Christian circles
Loved that. 2 great men of God.
Praise God for these two mighty men in the Lord Jesus! 🙏🏽 Eternally grateful!
Mighty leaders in the faith. I have learned so much from them both. I spent 40 yrs listening to John Mac Arthur, and many with Piper as well ....after I found him. Such sincere love for God and His people. They bring much glory to our Savior. God bless them both! ❤️
If I am even a little bit this wise and love God as much as these guys at my old age (and be THIS awesome!) then I will be satisfied. May we all love the Lord God will all our hearts, all our minds, and with all our souls and love His Word that we may be able to stand boldly and strongly, immovable, against the Enemy.
Glory be to God... For these men
These two guys are great. They need a weekly podcast.
I can’t even begin to explain my gratitude to the Lord for the work He’s done through these men. I want them to know that the Lord is GLORIFIED because through their preaching, I find Joy, peace, love, and SATISFACTION in the Lord because of the passions and the gifts that the Lord has given them. Thank God for them, and thank you John, and John 🙏🏻
I'm currently only at 35:44 of this conversation and I'm struck by how beneficial it is to hear the experiences of these two great servants of the Lord and expositors of His word. Not only in understanding my individual position in the body and what I believe my calling to be, but also benefits in comprehending God's working..."providence" in all of our lives as the chosen of God. On another subject, just 12 years ago I would not have even known what arminianism was, and how it was distinguished from Calvanism. For me, I simply discovered that the way I understood God's word was in keeping with what these reformed preachers were teaching. As a teaching elder, I found myself at odds with all of the other leaders of my Arminianist church, and so, was ostracised, yet for the sake of the members who still embraced me and my exegesis/hermenuetics (I felt the need to bring them along with me), I hung in for another five years. Only to now find myself alone, without a church home, not wanting to place membership in a church of any particular denomination. My previous church no longer exists but gave everything to a truly non-biblical church, including the house I was living in. Currently attending a 2RP church. Besides my sophomoric writings, I'm feeling rather fruitless and turning 65 this year. Prayers appreciated.
I am so inspired by these two amazing God fearing men. I love their love and passion for the Truth and for people.
Thank you for this. My church has been searching for a faithful pastor for about 2 years. This helps inform my prayers while we are searching. I have grown as I learned from both Johns. I am glad to live at a time when the teaching of such men, as well as the Puritans and others, is so available. We need men to flesh out the Gospel; there are too many fluffing it out. As always God is Himself faithful - to His Word and His people. At the right time He will lead the right man to us. Thank you all for this encouragement.
God bless John Piper and John MacArthur, so thankful for their ministries. "Oh,The joy of having nothing and being nothing, seeing nothing but a living Christ in glory, and being careful for nothing but His interest down here." - JND
God's men, Who know how to evangelized. The way they preach makes It easy to better understand the Word of our Almighty God.
Blessings
I found this q&a so very helpful. Thank you. I find it fascinating: these two men have such different personalities and so while they both stay faithful to the word, each man compliments the other in such a way that rounds out each others answers. It makes me think of how, in the gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke and John captured and focused on different aspects of Jesus’ ministry. God has created each of us uniquely and we need each other to glorify Him.
Agreed, Nick...isn't it wonderful how our God gives differing gifts and talents and personalities to us to use in His church and our world--yet have so many of us from so many different background come together in Christ and His Word?
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Beautiful!! God used (and still does use) both of your online ministries to play an ENORMOUS part in my learning about the beauty and sovereignty of our Lord Jesus Christ when I was a brand new believer. I am eternally grateful for that. Thank you for dedicating your life to God via the pastorate so that others might know His glory 🙏🏽
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This is so awesome, it warms my heart.
Amen!!!i really love these men and im so so grateful to God always for their teachings..may the Lord Jesus truly bless them and their family!
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My two favourite Johns in this world, how I wish I could have been there! what a blessing to see them together on this beloved and familiar stage, may the Lord bless and keep these precious men of the faith who have taught me SO much and SO well over the years. I thank God for them, they are forever loved.
Johnny Mac The Vanishing Conscience sharpened me up. Piper Christian Hedonism teaching is awesome for spiritual warfare. Iron sharpens iron. I believe these men love God. And are used by God to help me on my way to do the same.
Thank You God for the ministries of these men
My walk with The Lord hasn't been the same since I started listening to the clear, profound and powerful teachings of these men of God along with RC Sproul, Sugel Michelen, Miguel Núñez and others that faithfully preach and teach the Sovereignty and Grace of God. I'm deeply grateful to The Lord for using these teacers in my life. Thank you for sharing this video.