John Piper Interviews Rick Warren on Doctrine
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2014
- 3:29 The glory of God.
7:16 David Wells and the weight of God's reality.
9:00 Would you write the book the same today?
12:00 The sovereignty of God.
18:47 How do you speak of God's sovereignty in the presence of tragedy?
22:01 How do all things work for bad for those who reject Christ?
24:14 Do you hedge on Larry King?
27:00 Unconditional election.
30:18 The importance of eternity.
34:42 How do you conceive of eternity: in heaven, on earth?
38:53 What is the Gospel?
42:00 What did Jesus achieve on the cross?
43:40 Repentance.
50:50 Why don't you call yourself a Calvinist?
53:09 Propitiation.
54:39 Prevenient grace.
1:00:01 Total depravity.
1:03:00 Hell.
1:09:10 Eternal destiny of those who never heard.
1:12:40 The extent of the atonement.
1:17:00 Do unbelievers always do the devil's bidding?
1:18:40 Your view of the Bible.
1:22:40 Expository preaching and doctrinal depth.
1:28:10 Rick Warren's sacred trust.
John Piper read Rick Warren's The Purpose Driven Life with great care and brought 20 pages of quotes and questions to the interview. You will hear John quote the book dozens of times. With these quotes as a starting point John digs into Rick's mind and heart on all the issues listed below... Read more at desiringgod.org/articles/john...
"We shouldn't fight without crying" yes! I believe that is Jesus's heart for the world! You can give without loving but you cannot love without giving! Jesus let your love flow from us as we humbly seek after You!
i love when Rick warren humbly said I have no brain capacity to understand God . .. well Amen. God is God and let Him be God . .. He even said : Nobody can fathom what he has prepared for those who believe in Him. ... Jesus is perfecter and finisher of our Faith.❤️❤️❤️ Calvinism Armenism . What we missed out is Really shifting our focus in Jesus and glorify God as long as we breathe. Its not about which theology ....Jesus also said that whoever preach His name let him do it . we are all different bodies of christ with different functions but our main focus and purpose is JESUS . ... we only make it complicated ... shifting the focus away from Jesus ... 😢
Theres only one body, not many or "different" bodies. And you cant go around teaching lies, and then say theology is unimportant. Theology is simply what the bible decalres.
"By this all men will know you are my disciples, if you love one another." -John 13:35
Thank you John Piper for clearing the air. ❤
I feel this is exactly what Pastor Warren was talking about when he said theology can be simple yet powerful! So much truth and guidance in this passage, yet so hard for us to completely implement in our life.
The verse realizing, is referring to those who are In Truth, The Christ, and have received Him, so wondering exactly what your point is? A new Ager can say they love each other and everyone else too. Cannot a tax collector love another tax collector, can another child of hell love another child of hell? (not arguing John Piper though, he says a lot of good things (don't bash me on that one now..;-) ...he does Desire to Know God...in the Person of His Christ..apart from that, it's all 'verbiage'.
As a believer growing up in a doctrinally centered bible teaching church, I must admit the image of Pastor Warren was somewhat impaired. I was very impressed by his theological grounding. I learned a lot of things about him that I did not know, which reflected well on him as a pastor and a child of God. Thank you for the humility to explain yourself, the net result was a conscious decision on my part to read and listen to your books/sermons in the future, where it previously was not a priority. May God use it to conform me into the image of His Son.
Good grief. Where does RW say to use his books instead of the Bible? I dont get the impression he puts himself above God in anyway.
He was merely showing respect. It doesn’t mean he agrees with him. You have to show someone respect if you are going to have influence over them. Listen to Rick’s words. He doesn’t believe in purgatory. He doesn’t agree with s lot of catholic doctrine but he is respectful. I don’t agree with some of my parents ideas but I’m respectful. I know I can’t get them to consider my ideas if I don’t come across as loving and respectful. The Pharisees never converted anyone to real Christianity.
@@kirox34 does is mean all people you shake hands with in this life; since you were born are born again or even support the gospel of Christ Jesus?
As I read these; what comes in mind is; Lord, vet my thoughts, emotions and attitudes.
“It’s not about you,” is probably one of the best indicators that someone understands the gospel. If he believes that the glory goes to Jesus and not himself, then something is working.
Excuse me? Who DOESN'T believe that all the glory belongs to God?
If you had actually read the book then you wpuld realize that the whole book is about "you". If that line wasn't in the book then you would assume the whole book is about you.
@@foolishdrunk2181 Had you been drinking when you read Jansen's post. Read it again slowly, he is actually saying that Jesus does in fact get the glory.
Amen.
@@TiMbO_sLyCe True! 🌟💯
Thanks John Piper for clearing things up. I think Rick Warren has been called by God for this generation. Pastor Warren is a humble man who only seeks to Glorify God in his calling. Pastor Warren, you spoke beautifully. My prayers are with you brother. Yes, I admire the both of you as great pillars of the Church. God's grace be with you both
So you don’t read the Bible.
Perhaps when you say “this generation” you mean “the worldview of this generation”? Mr. Warren promotes a counterfeit gospel. It looks nearly identical to the real one, but it’s certainly a counterfeit-new-age gnosticism adorned with a biblical veneer. The Bible tells us to judge righteously, and he needs to be called out. I say this only with compassion and a hope that he comes to seek the true Christ rather than the worldly Christ, the latter of whom is soft on sin.
I am so pleased that this hour and a half interview gave Rick Warren the opportunity to reveal his heart for the Lord and the lost. Critics? Stop serving the Accuser of the Brethren and instead serve the Savior of the Brethren.
Satan doesn't lead people to Christ... both these men do. Chill out.
They're "brethren" (children) of the devil. If you don't personally know the Lord Jesus Christ, they might be the reason.
Ardent Fan seems to me you are the accuser of the brethren bud. You're the one brandishing about accusations as far as I'm able to read here. You folks throwing out theses horrible accusations against Christians seem to have one heap of a problem in your life.
Nothing to do with having guts. You're seriously wrong but are totally blinsd to the TRUE facts. You've given your heart over to the accuser & it's his bidding you are doing....pure & simple. You're on a very slippery slope indeed & t only slides in one direction.
Ok you said I couldn't have listened to many of his videos...wrong. I had listened to most of them. You then said I then could not know God's word or the Bible very well if I had come to the conclusion he was a man of God....wrong. I've been studying the Bible for over 50 years & spent many years as a missionary in several countries at risk to freedom life & limb at times. I've given my life to bring the Gospel to the places I've been. You now say I'm a conformist who is afraid to speak the truth & am only comfortable with PC. You couldn't be more wrong. I'm extremely outspoken when need be & hate PC. I've been in the firing line more times than I can count. I've lived in it trusting that if I'm in the will of God He'll take care of me & he has never failed to do so miraculously at times. Everything you have concluded about me has in fact been the EXACT opposite of the facts. If you could be so wrong about me (& you know NOTHING about me) it's not the least bit surprising you've got it wrong in this case with this Godly man too. Still I very much doubt you'll listen to reason. Sadly you folks who have everybody pegged & figured out rarely if ever do. The world is as you see it & it appears even God probably has a difficult time piercing through your erroneous & false conclusions. I'm outta here as I've delivered my soul & attempted to state the truth. Your call...your life...your choice.
Piper had a captive audience with Warren, the perfect scenario to share the pure Gospel of Jesus Christ with him.
This blesses my heart. "How good and pleasant it is when God's people live together in unity!"
You don't know what you're saying.
Man, this is so awesome to watch. I am learning a great deal about doctrine but also about character. My spirit is so lifted to see these two Christian leaders to come together in such good nature for His Will.
Welp. This didn't age well. 😂
I saw gentleness and humility. I am blessed to be able to watch this. May Jesus our Lord be glorified.
Ive seen UA-cam clips slandering Christian ministers. People will spend so much time making videos that show no love or mercy towards leaders who don't teach what they agree with. As I read the scripture we are to reprove but in LOVE through scripture. I really appreciate John Piper setting a good example and sitting down with Rick Warren to address concern with humility and gentleness. I think instead of calling someone out by making videos that show no real concern but to deliberately slander a person we should pray for them and pray that God will bring them back to the truth or put someone in their path that can speak to them personally in the biblical way. Too many are proclaiming to be watchman but do not walk in the fruit of the Spirit. We all need to be careful because anyone of us can stumble, for me personally I would rather be reprove someone who really loves and cares for me than someone who is just out to get me.
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+Martha Newcomb You should watch Joel Osteen then.
+Martha Newcomb If the devil himself would come to you in human form and speak slight distortions of the true Word of God, you would not notice it with your worldly attitude which you display here. The Word of God is our sword and weapon against the powers of darkness. We are supposed to use the Word of God as a weapon and wound and kill principalities and powers of darkness and be the light of the world and SPEAK the true Word of God and not fear consequences. True followers of Christ are supposed to be like oil that under no circumstances mix with the water of the world. Martha, your words sound kind and loving, but that kind of love and care is what sends people sugarcoated to hell. Sugarcoating is no love. God, even Jesus, is Love and Truth.
+Alki Malk wow! I'm sorry you feel that way! You don't know me. I'm loving but I'm not surgarcoating sin! I do believe in reverence and respect for God's word! Apostasy is very real! And I know it's all over TV and with popular Christian speakers. However, calling them names like stupid or idiots or demon-possessed people is not fruitful for the body! The only way people can truly discern is through the word. Even videos are flawed. I can be mad all I want but my prayer is for those who are mislead or doing the misleading will turn their hearts to God! In John 17:17 it says the word of God sanctifies. It's the word that gives clarity! I need to be very careful how I address the body or anyone claiming to be part of it! If I'm wrong or misjudged I'm accountable to God for what I say! God is all about restoring! I have to keep myself from allowing Satan to make me bitter towards anyone! Especially those who do wrong in the body. It's a slippery slope. Be careful.
Martha Newcomb Nice text, you begin all "christian", I suppose, and end it all in fear and in satan. You mention Jesus not even once, but express your fear for satan...
You all busy with everyday life, you poor you? No time to go to the marriage feast? You have to feed your child, care for your husband, work is too much, and all is dragging you so much down and exhausting you, right?
Wake up!
You shall fear God, not satan.
God the Creator is greater than satan the created. Do not fear satan's power over your life for God is at your side if you keep staying at God's side.
Be holy, be strengthened in spirit through prayer and fasting, and fight with your sword and be guarded with your armor. Jesus will win the war halleluja, and there won't be any satan evermore.
This is how you shall address those who claim to be part of the body of Christ:
Rebuke sin and sinners in the church and CAST THEM OUT OF THE SANCTUARY WITH WHIPS and give them over to satan! You SHALL NOT keep them in the sanctuary while you pray for them but you shall CAST THEM OUT FIRST in the hands of satan and then pray for them!
Since this is something the church won't do, in the contrary, the church opens its doors to ALL men and women and demons alike and casts out true Word-obedient Christians (being called quarrelsome "fundamentalists"), you SHALL run out of the whore of a church and run for your life, literally!
The body of Christ as you call it is lukewarm and makes Jesus feel all sick and ill inside.
The body of Christ is pathetic and Jesus shivers in disgust.
Get out of her and do not have any share in her whoring, and don't stay in it any longer.
God is all about restoring? Who told you that? My God, how I read about Him in the Bible and how I have experienced Him, does not restore anything in the sense of "repairing" but always makes, fashions, and creates NEW things. Literally, God would never glue the pieces of a broken vase all up but would throw the pieces away and make a new vase.
God has no interest in restoring this fallen church, in the contrary, He calls His saints to jump out of the rotten and sinking boat of a whore.
You shall not be bitter and hate humans but shall hate sin. If you love humans with a godly love, then you will rebuke your neighbor according to the parable: "first cast out the trunk out of your own eyes so that you may see clearly to precisely pull the small wood piece out of your brothers eye. Judgment begins on yourself first, and from there with a clear eyesight moves on to those around you.
The saying "Jesus said you shall not judge!" is from satan.
I don't care if you know a Jesus, but do you know The Jesus? You know that Jesus is God? God Himself?
You tell me to be "careful", and I tell you that I could not care less.
I will run on my little feet like an infant on its small feet and likewise I will fall on my face many times. I do not fear the falling for the running is way too exciting and I do not feel pain, for I am no adult but a babe, and my Father loves me and gave life to me, and once I fall, my Father has already lifted me up and put me on my feet.
I shall not fear satan, I shall fear God and be in peace forever.
Even so, come quickly, God Jesus.
Tremendous interview!... Love both of these men of God.... Grateful that God is the only one that can judge the hearts and Ministries of such leaders in ministry. Thanks for all you do.
This was by far the best interview I’ve ever seen. It’s so refreshing to see two very prominent leaders in Christianity discuss their journey and challenge each other so gracefully without destroying their character. It reminds me of how Paul and Peter used to challenge each other. Praise God for these inspiring men!
Peter didnt challenge paul, Paul challenged Peter
Warren is false.
I absolutely love this video and John's approach to confronting such doctrinal controversies surrounding other believers.
My two fav pastors in one? That’s one happy Godly meal for me! So much love ! Thank you God🙏
My Lord and Savior brought me this video tonight...I needed it so badly...thank you to these beautiful shepherds...so glad to hear them both....what a fabulous, blessed discussion....God have mercy on us all,...✝️✝️✝️💕😊🙏🏻🕊
What a blessing this video has been to me. Thank you for sharing this awesome interview.
Wow this is SOOO GOOD! Thank you John Piper & Rick Warren
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Two extremely learned and accomplished men humbly seeking truth in love, and not simply defending their own theological perspectives. This example of unity has sparked a change in my heart. God bless these men and all who hear!
Thanks you both so much, most encouraging.
I didn't know about Rick Warren before watching this video. I didn't have any clue about his beliefs / doctrines. But after watching this I'm quite sure to call him a fellow believer. I won't think a second time to give a visit to his church. Thanks John Piper for asking the right questions/ raising the areas of concerns to make things clear. Core beliefs / doctrines of Rick warren are good and biblical.
Two great teachers of the word...appreciated this vid greatly!!!!😃
What a wonderful fellowship to witness....blessings everyone.
Agree! It gives hope in bringing Christians together despite some disagreements and I like that kind of fellowship
I would love to sit with these great men of God and talk doctrine and theology
Love these guys! God bless them and keep them!
This is one of those videos that I go back to a lot! I keep it on my personal playlist.
So grateful to have this interview that really shows the basis of good theology & how to handle the word of God.
I have been a constant listener. The depth in which Jon piper preachers the scripture is simply marvellous. May Almighty bless.
Man, i wish someone would confront Warren in a stern and biblical way. He is waaayyy off course with his doctrine
Pastor Rick Warren is, in my opinion, amazing beyond words. His faithfulness toward God is awe inspiring to many. Because he is faithful, God has multiplied His kingdom through his calling and that of his wife Kay. His teaching is God glorifying, simply biblical, divinely anointed, powerful and very relevant. God has blessed Pastor Rick with such great mind. I praise God for having raised such a man of God. His influence is widespread and global, all for the glory of God.
Rick is not amazing now knowing his feelings about the Pope, he thinks the Pope is right with God.
I'm glad you guys did this interview!
Thank you John and Rick, Thank you Father
Thanks for this, I really appreciate both men's efforts to ultimately glorify God even through this interview. I was encouraged in the Lord through this conversation.
Love the genuineness and truth-oriented discussion of the two despite their different background. Such scrutinizing discussion could only have been done because of mutual love for the Lord and confidence in the truth of the Word of God. Blessed. :)
This was absolutely excellent. Dr Warren is scorned by the hard rights, but he is brilliant. Thx Dr Piper.
Very Good interview. Blessings on both men as they discuss doctrine. I believe it’s spot on. All for the Glory of God..
My respect and admiration is great for both of these servants of God. Preaching what people need to hear, not wanting to hear. And not jeopardizing truth for the sake of love. Both treasure the word with great devotion. Inspiring!
I was admired by Rick Warren's book earlier before I found this video.
Really, "The Purpose Driven Live" is driving me forward in making serious reflection about my life, hope and journey.
Thanks a lor for sharing this video.
May God Bless Us.
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I will always thank God for the life of Pastor Rick Warren. Hadn't He used Him I wouldn't be able to discover the Scripture and know Jesus Christ.
I really love Rick Warren. His teachings are practical and easy to apply. Glad to have these 2 men as my older brothers in Christ.
But it doesn’t follow Bible.
Rick Warren is garbage and Purpose Driven Life is garbage.
Great to see deep doctrinal discussion from two passionate servants of Christ.
Clarity in this is priceless !
Amen and Amen. Glory be to God❤🙏🏽🔥. What an amazing interview. Blessed are all who take refuge in Him.
This interview reminds me of the relevance of face to face communication as a means to produce understanding. John gives rick the opportunity to elaborate in order to define and to clarify meaningful points. This is what's missing in social media and one of the reasons so many people are flying off the handle.
Ardent Fan woe. Thanks for the deep revelation. Spare me no relevant detail.
Fabulous interview John. thank you. Much of negative comments I had heard about Saddleback and Rick were cleared up by watching this.
Thank you pastor John for interviewing pastor Rick.. So blessed! Praise Jesus!
John Piper is so gracious and understanding in this interview. So encouraging. Truth + Love. To that point, I am pleased with most of Rick Warren's responses...
Beautiful! What Brotherly fellowship and brotherly love! There are always differences amoungst people but beauty is that we can all still unite in the name of our only Saviour Jesus Christ!
Ardent Fan as a non-Christian...I’d rather follow a god of either of these two men than yours. Your self righteous infused, Pharisee like rant is a turn off.
It is not light in the darkness, but a myopic rendering of an ignorant/arrogant sense. As if you are god. You’re not. The last being who really tried to duke it out that way, so full of themselves was Lucifer.
Be more like Jesus, less like Lucifer.
Maybe you worry about you, where you stand with god. Isn’t god big enough to take care of it himself.
Plus his command was “love one another”
If you’re not doing that...you are being a heretic :)
Great video. Amazing insights from two genuine men of God.
wow! iam going to pray after watching this marvelous life changing interview!
love thiese two servants of the Most High..prayed with you..Yes, admonishing in love...that's what brothers in Christ do...for the glory of God!
Simply amazing and sublime. Praise God!!!
Love John Piper and Rick Warren. This is a wonderful interview in showing the depth of Godly men. People want to slam Rick Warren on different events that he spoke at. Personally I believe Rick Warren is conscious of the venue he chooses because it spreads the Gospel of Christ to masses that would normally not listen to Christian sermons. Example in (Matthew 9:12) Jesus says "They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick." Regardless whether or not people totally agree with Rick Warren's theological views one thing is prevalent and that is his love and committment to the gospel of Jesus Christ. That is ultimately what it's all about. Praise and glory to your name Jesus forever
Far fewer people want to slam the man himself, just what he preaches...Chrislam. When I found that out, I stopped following him and distanced myself for my own good. People of the Muslim faith need sound Scripture and yes, that includes Scripture that goes against the Koran.
Rick Warren thinks the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the purpose driven life which is all self help self esteem egomaniac drivel for the self absorbed "seeker"
warriorspikes51 I learned that lesson after learning about one of his books "The Purpose Driven Church".
so good. watch the entire interview.
Love these two GODLY men. Thank you for sharing this video. May the Lord continue to use both of you to bring more people into the SAVING knowledge of our LORD and savior.
I love my church pastor, Rick Warren :) what a blessing Saddleback and Rick have been in my life.
John piper executed this interview really well in love. Exposing in love.
kahstd exposing what? Rick is solid.
No matter how hard Piper tried to trap him, Rick responded in love and truth.
andrew reinhardt you are severely deceived and headed to hell if you are following Rick . I feel really sorry for you
aleayh ok....🤷♂️
aleayh Don’t you think that’s a little harsh to tell a complete stranger that they’re going to hell, when you don’t even know that person?
Thank you so much gentleman for sitting down with eachother and talking in a loving way and learning from one another. I was highly blessed by this and learned alot. Thanks again God bless.
Greatly blessed by these two great minds..
I'd love to see Piper do something similar with Andy Stanley.
Agreed, I would like to see that interview also.
@@newyorknight completely agree. I really love Andy, but sometimes I have no idea what he truly believes on some key issues of scripture because he doesn't speak about it
Charles Stanley and John Piper are my favorite pastors, so I'd love to see those two.
RC Sproul is another good one.
Love the bromance between these 2 pastors from different denominations.
Epic interview, love Rick Warrens teachings.
Both are great men of God who have helped me immensely in my walk with Jesus
Wonderful. I enjoyed every minute of it.
Outstanding interview. Two brilliant servants of God.
Amen amen and amen wonderful interview god bless them both xxx
Wow! Those 6 last minutes were really insightful, let alone the entire interview.
John Piper what a heart
This is a phenomenal interview.
This is awesome. Thank you for sharing!
'Simple does not mean shallow, simple means it's clear'. Exactly! Give me simple everyday.
Both a blessing to the body of Chirst.. Neither perfect.. But me neither or who is perfect? Only one, Jesus..
If I could give this video a 1,000 thumbs up I would!!! I love this!!! :D
I've enjoyed the interview; experienced Bible studies by Rick Warren and sermons by Joel Osteen. I give them praise for their preaching, teaching, providing hope and spiritual enrichment as Christ intended.
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Joel's doctrine is to apply Christ's teaching to every day life ... faith, attitude, gratitude, forgiveness, love, perseverance, identification of one's talents - purpose-goals, and giving back to mankind - as our loving God intended. I find him very much like Dr. Schuller who has helped many people in this life while looking forward to meeting their Savior in the next. Vintage Headbands Bridal Weddings
At least Minister Osteen openly admits he's not a theologian. These two on the video are trying to subtly debate Calvinist doctrine and they both claim to be theologians to some degree. I'd rather have Minister Osteen's humble pragmatism than these evangelical nitpickers.
You love everything not Biblical!
for by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not of yourselves. it is the gift of God, not of works, so that no one should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9
Fantastic video.
Anybody who criticizes Rick Warren needs a life! He's an amazing man who has literally saved my life. Thank you God for Rick Warren, in Jesus Holy name!
I think some of Rick's teaching has had an effect on you. You praise God for Rick, not Rick himself. Amen.
Wonderful and inspiring.
1:28:00 wow, amen and amen Pastor John, your prayer are so biblical!
I am absolutely blessed by the wisdom & knowledge that these two servants of God poured out to us 🙌🏾!
I love you my dearest brothers ♥ !
🙏🏾 May the living waters of truth of God's righteousness overflow 🌊 from you into the hearts 💕 of the lost world 🌍 and God continue to keep you both unwavering and abounding in much faith 🙌🏾. Through our Lord's mercy and Grace your legs hold strong beneneath you, your feet solid on the Rock, your minds safe and sensitive to the Holy Spirit ✨ your tongues subjected unto God and swift to declare the unadulterated Gospel of our Savior, Jesus Christ! In Jesus name, Amen ✨
This was a great talk! Inspired to dive into my word and fall deeper in love with Christ. Thanks guys!
Interview with Paul Washer in the future?
Godspeed.
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Every time I see that dude’s face, I genuinely worry about his well being.
He prefers Hanging around The DAVOS
Clique, plus when he speaks in front of Foreign Relations, he never mentions God nor Jesus
Pretends to be Christian but is in reality Woke puppet Demon
I haven't followed other Rick's teachings, but basing my view on this video, I see that his doctrine is biblically solid.
+Bill Manassas on THIS VIDEO - yes! go do some research on what Slick Rick is doing with the pope, what he says to gay communities etc etc etc etc.
Amen!!! Thank you. 🙏
Well done! I had been worried about Rick Warren, but I'm glad to know he's traditional in his beliefs. I can comfortably read Purpose Driven Life again!
i love when Rick told the Jewish woman... Jesus said, "no one comes to the Father by by me"... "I am the way..."
Love that it's not Rick's "opinion" or yours or mine... either you believe Jesus or you don't.
If you choose not to believe... it's you calling Jesus a liar. not me...
I listened to it all... and "to God be the glory" men!!!
Again, All 4 Him!!!!!!
+Ardent Fan that's exactly the response u get from all RW fans on the pope subject........SILENCE! (+ "do not judge" x999999999999 and "God is love" x 99999999999999)
hey guys... Rick Warren was off his rocker to have said what you've quoted him saying. I'm not here to defend him... not at all. But understand we all say stupid things from time to time and they can be used our of context as well. regardless... a pope for all Christians is absurd. you and i both know this. but we all know that there is one truth and it's found in Chris Jesus. for He is the only way to salvation. the only path that leads to the Father in heaven. and yes, we are to judge each others fruit... how else can we hold each other accountable. Rick has some explaining to do as far as i'm concerned. but the truth still stands. one way to heaven... only thru Jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and by the way... +B Moore I am NOT a Rick Warren "fan"... but just a fan of Jesus Christ and the Truth of the Word. I HAVE NEVER QUOTED Rick Warren... but always quote the Scripture... as I did a few posts ago.
Perry Brening hey, many apologies for coming up with a completely wrong conclusion about you. i get far too worked up about these things. have a nice blessed day and thank you for your valuable contribution to this video.
not even a problem... i too, think many of the mega churches are run by the "golden rule"... most churches for that matter... and that means... "those with the gold... rule"
sadly, my many many years of church experience, both as a parishioner as well as a full time church employee have be enlightening... most negatively, unfortunately. Power and control are found everywhere. Christ Himself was against the "established" church of the first century. too much piety. I believe it's Satan's way of making today's church ineffective for the true calling... Matt. 28.
Peace Brothers... Stand firm in the Truth!
Great conversation. Thank you!
Fabulous Conversation very very interesting Praise Jesus
What proof is there that Rick Warren promotes chrislam? If he is straying away from biblical doctrine then pray for him.
What did people expect Pastor Piper to do in this interview? Would people enjoy watching Piper insult Warren or beat him?
As Christians we must correct each other in love, In LOVE. Any correcting should not be done on a you tube video. Piper is not called to embarrass another Christian neither are we. So for those of you criticizing Piper; Shame on you! These "youtbe watchmen" need to pray for love and mercy and discernment to know the difference between a wolf in sheep's clothing and a sheep that doesn't have it all together. Pray for Warren.
Good point sis
Exactly. I totally agree.
He says at 12:00 that his God looks like Jesus, if someone else's God doesn't look like Jesus, then they don't serve the same God.
Look up "Rick Warren False Prophet."
udertyrat i am so sick! this is so sickening (the video) that they twist and use the Word of God to bring all those lost souls down...... i pray for all those who have ears hear the lies of Rick and all those other false prophets !!!
Why people making the gospel so difficult, that the simple man don't understand it anymore! It's a shame the simplicity in Christ is gone!
alias nakkie I agree.
Just read the Bible and Pray that The Lord opens your eyes and give you more understanding of what you're reading. Simple things.
If the comment section is any indication I would say the biggest thing lacking in modern Christians is Love (or charity).
1 Jn 4:20 “ If anyone says “I love God” and hates his brother he is a liar “
I do not care who you are, but I felt the POWER in the prayer between these two men. Also, Piper exemplified kindness in this video where he was blunt (as he usually is), but graceful in the way in which he addressed the matter at hand. And I don't believe that Pastor Rick is perfect...
Not one person on earth is righteous...EVERYONE falls short of the glory of God. Period.
so far, Rick seems legit, good doctrine on the sovereignty of GOD and the Deity of Christ, seems to have a deep trust and dependence in GOD. im only about 30 mins in so we will see how this goes concerning the rest of the interview.
problem is that Rick Warren has been well known to say one thing in one group of people and another in another group. it appears in this interview like he's giving John all the answers that he knows he will want to hear to put his mind at ease.
+Brackish nz Amen! what a travesty.
+Brackish nz Are you able to be more specific in your accusations? Your blanket statement would not hold up in court (man's nor God's). And for those who have chimed in with you, they would not be happy if people went around accusing them without real facts.
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I'm not accusing him of anything, I've just heard his statements. Look at some other videos on you tube. Like the one where Rick was appealing for people to speak out against gay marriage, then he went on talk shows and said that he hadn't done anything like that.
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Do you, perchance, have the message title???
+Brackish nz Exactly, he is lying. There is no way around it.
Good interview. Great review of the doctrines of grace.
Shockingly, Warren can say all the right "words". But his ministry and teaching deny the same truths. I have to wonder if Piper intended to give credibility to Warren. His last advice, however, seems as thought Piper is trying to influence Warren gently to repent. Didn't work.
'Thank you brother'. No better way to end.
So I watch this video and listen to what I think is the heart of Rick Warren and it sounds like he is a solid believer and he claims he is all about evangelism and spreading the gospel and not at all interested in political views so I'm thinking that what I've heard against him is wrong....... THEN I look at a video of him talking for about a half hour to a group of Muslims so I think, "Ahhh, he's going to share the Gospel with them...NOPE... He stresses the need of corporation and a setting aside of differing beliefs to accomplish humanitarian goals with the help of governments........ WHAT??? That is not the great commission...... Now I'm swinging back the other way... I'm believing what people are saying... He does speak from both sides of his mouth. But, for the moment, I"m going to control myself a bit and do more research... I don't want second hand info from anyone; I want videos of him either setting the record straight or burying himself.
william ziemer. I agree. Getting second hand information is dangerous. It's also important to take it to God in prayer and allow Him to give you wisdom regarding if you should listen to him or not.
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William, I am a missionary in Africa. My life is committed to Christ. I am a born again, Spirit filled believer. I believe that there is no other name under heaven by which man can be saved. That said, I have come to respect the Muslim community. Muslims, where I am, are kind, generous and attempt to walk righteously. It may be under a legal authority - not by grace, but their "works" are far more impactful than the majority of Christians that I know. That, to me, is very sad. They do not look down on me as a Christian. They, in fact, honor me. They know about my Christ. If they know about Christ, it is up to the Holy Spirit to do his work, not for me to beat them up every time I see them. I was walking down the street the other day and a Muslim family was walking to their mosque. I can't explain it, but something deep in my heart spoke to me. It was so pure and clear, I just can't put it to words to describe, but what I heard was "I love them." Jesus talks about loving everyone - our brothers and sisters in Christ, as well as our enemies (or the enemies of Christ) - He so loved the world. I don't mean to preach, but I am more concerned about how much the Church spends in putting up walls instead of breaking them down. Read most posts on Facebook or see the UA-cam videos and see what Christians write...about Christians. "...but the greatest of these is love."
Aleph TV? Really? Is that your real name? No problem if it is, it just doesn't sound like a person's name but the world is very big.
Since you are responding to what I said, I can only assume that, to some degree, you are in favor of Christians sharing a worship service with Muslims and if that's the case, I have to question your (born-again, Spirit filled, committed to Christ) statement.
God called me to live in Guatemala and this is where I've been for the past 18 years. Don't see too many Muslims here but I see a lot of Catholics who are very friendly, kind, helpful, giving people. Some of it may be out of legalism or dedication to Mary, I don't know.
I'm sick to the heart and angered every time I hear the bands start to play or the Mayan piper and drummer, as another parade floods through the streets and people pay homage to statues of the saints, Mary or Jesus as they pass by on the shoulders of the beguiled.
Many of them are friends of mine and they know that I am not Catholic. I don't preach to them but I speak openly about my faith to them. Though they have been grievously mislead and have built their houses for years using wood, hay and stubble, still their foundation is Christ crucified and a belief in the resurrection.
I do not respect the Catholic Community; I hate what it stands for in fact; I love individuals not groups. In the same way, I can show the love of Christ to (a) homosexual but I have no respect for the homosexual community. The “Homosexual Community” is Antichrist in nature; the Catholic Church is Antichrist in nature; the Muslim Community is Antichrist in nature… I have no respect for any of them but I love any individual of them.
You do realize that Muslims are antichrist in their doctrine right? You don't think for a second that "Allah" is the Arabic translation for "Yahweh" do you?
Of course the Holy Spirit would say, "I love them"; Jesus came for those who need a doctor and those who know they need a doctor will go to be healed and He will heal them. We, as Disciples of Christ must love every individual that comes to us; no argument there.
But we have no business going to bed with those who reject Christ while making every effort to act as if we are on the same page just because they (SAY) they believe in Jesus. The question is, "What Jesus do you believe in?" Some people readily believe in "another Jesus" as Paul pointed out but we should not.
You say that everything is cool where you live? Can you stand in the market place and tell people the good news of the crucifixion and resurrection? Are there Christian cathedrals and Jewish temples?
But whatever situation you have, it seems to be irrelevant to the Christians in Syria who are being raped, beheaded, tortured and crucified by Muslims who take the Qur'an at its word... So there's that.
So, Yeah, I can be long winded at times but I feel I need to be if the issues are important and looking at the whole world and not just my little world, things are pretty dire right now and it can be almost entirely blamed on Muslims... So there's that.
Actually, it seems that the Muslim fundamentalists are just being used to accomplish a specific task for those who are pushing for a "Globalist Economy" or "New World Order" or whatever name you prefer, and once they have achieved the desired effect, they will be dissolved in some manner, not sure what the plan is there but God has His own plan and I'm putting all my money on that one.
william ziemer No, William, you completely misunderstood the point I was trying to make. Sorry. I'll just leave it at that. Peace to you.
Ok, no problem... but, You do realize that Muslims are Antichrist in their doctrine right? You don't think for a second that "Allah" is the Arabic translation for "Yahweh" do you?... Oh yeah, I'd still like to know if you can preach the gospel of the resurrection and worship freely where you are.
Warren reminds me of R. Schuller. He found a niche that appeals to all. We are to be set apart and please God not appease the world. Thank you John. Warren is like a scoffer and laughs you off. You need to leave him to his own mind whatever that is. A person does not float on past generations. You float on GOD..
Great interview!!!
Thank you.