Coding Isn't Enough Anymore in 2024

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    CHAPTERS
    0:00 Why Coding Isn't Enough (& how to fix it)
    1:14 Why Becoming a Developer is Hrder than Ever
    2:43 Ad
    3:08 First skill you MUST learn
    5:00 NO ONE CARES about your code
    7:25 The PROBLEM with Tech Jobs
    8:40 Do this or stay poor forever
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 127

  • @InternetMadeCoder
    @InternetMadeCoder  5 місяців тому +44

    To CLARIFY:
    1. Coding IS still very much in demand (no, don't quit)
    2. But it is harder to stand out than before

    • @SuaXenStone
      @SuaXenStone 5 місяців тому

      i want to ask you if i stuck in cs50p problems should i watch solution on youtube or not???

    • @surushazaryun
      @surushazaryun 5 місяців тому +1

      @@SuaXenStone my friend, I studied same way but it was very hard for me to understand and follow up the assignment on cs50. If possible try to read one book on fundamentals of programming and move up slow but steady. I watched 5 hours of cs50 and I did not learn anything and I was so disappointed but keep in mind that you must not rush it. Take your time as much as you can. Every problem that comes to you try to go for it rather than studying more and doing it later.

    • @SuaXenStone
      @SuaXenStone 5 місяців тому

      @@surushazaryun Thanks , But I am very busy with housework. I study only 1 hour a day, so I try to understand but I don't understand that much

    • @3DHDcat
      @3DHDcat 5 місяців тому +3

      opposite of what you preached

    • @SuaXenStone
      @SuaXenStone 5 місяців тому

      @@surushazaryun which method do you use to learn coding, can u tell me? iam so confused between cs50p and mit course Which is good and which is not, Can you help me a little bit?

  • @covertdelta
    @covertdelta 5 місяців тому +31

    I'm a software engineer and just knowing coding by itself was usually not enough even 10 years ago. You can think of "code" as just another language. Like English, French, German, etc you have C, C++, Java, etc. Knowing just how to talk, in this case to a computer, is never sufficient. You have to have a vision of what you want to build. Very similar to say how all mechanical engineers can talk English and Math, but they need to know what to do with those. That aspect is never going away. AI tools will help speed up the process of building things. You always need a human to define what to build and how to build alongside how to "talk" to a computer or AI system to get it done

    • @noa670
      @noa670 5 місяців тому +3

      Yes Programming and Tech in general is a tool like anything else you need to know what to use it for

  • @surushazaryun
    @surushazaryun 5 місяців тому +111

    I’m so confused, one day you’re talking about how in demand software developers are and other day you’re saying otherwise. Please give us fair and honest information.

    • @joshuapayne9811
      @joshuapayne9811 5 місяців тому +5

      Its super hard now

    • @InternetMadeCoder
      @InternetMadeCoder  5 місяців тому +38

      1. They are very in demand
      2. They are less in demand than before & more competition
      Both can be true at the same time

    • @surushazaryun
      @surushazaryun 5 місяців тому +1

      @@InternetMadeCoder understandable. I appreciate your efforts to help us get better at coding. ❤️

    • @SashaCianuro
      @SashaCianuro 5 місяців тому +12

      This is called gatekeeping

    • @genki316
      @genki316 5 місяців тому +13

      ​@SashaCianuro Not gate keeping. The market is saturated especially with terrible programmers who have no passion and only look at the money factor. Employers don't need these type of people. They want people who can go above and beyond for the same price.

  • @PoojaDutt
    @PoojaDutt 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video! Loved the insights!

  • @RichardTafoya
    @RichardTafoya 5 місяців тому

    Good video. This is exactly right. Keep that side consultancy active.

  • @lebdaily
    @lebdaily 5 місяців тому +30

    I'm 29 Lebanese learned to code last year through a bootcamp and got a job. It's not hard as you're making it out to be.
    Before that I had a business degree and worked bad jobs that didn't pay enough.

    • @RiskandFlow
      @RiskandFlow 5 місяців тому +1

      HI! was it worth it to learn?

    • @InternetMadeCoder
      @InternetMadeCoder  5 місяців тому +2

      Congrats!

    • @WaveFlightSimulations
      @WaveFlightSimulations 5 місяців тому +7

      Took me a 4 year software engineering degree and 1 year job searching to get my first internship

    • @surushazaryun
      @surushazaryun 5 місяців тому

      @@WaveFlightSimulations which country do you live in?

    • @SuaXenStone
      @SuaXenStone 5 місяців тому

      how do you learn coding?

  • @BECltd
    @BECltd 4 місяці тому +2

    In my first job as a sales person, we decided to change simple products name and call them with modern attractive name.
    Same happening now.
    People with excel typing skills introduces themselves as a database skilled persons
    I used MS tools around 20 years but still I believe there are a lot more Ms tools can do but I don't know.
    Because people learn basic skills they consider they are programmers
    But actually there are a huge learning pending.
    As a result buggy apps, so many could not sustain businesses after a few of years those Expert software Engineers services

  • @Genius74o
    @Genius74o 5 місяців тому +3

    very cool 👍

  • @ukaszzbrozek6470
    @ukaszzbrozek6470 5 місяців тому +2

    Working remotly solution isn't as great and easy as it sounds.
    Company might expect you to be in the same time zone. There can be also problems with taxes depended on nationality and tax residency.

  • @animecap6
    @animecap6 5 місяців тому

    When did you start to learn code?

  • @lastspoil5547
    @lastspoil5547 4 місяці тому +1

    good advice

  • @mmelimahlobo7656
    @mmelimahlobo7656 5 місяців тому

    Thats true I have downloaded some apps that were not user friendly and I had to delete them and tried other ones

  • @codyphillips5098
    @codyphillips5098 5 місяців тому +2

    So learning to code will be like knowing how to use Excel

  • @Sacrifizer_Official
    @Sacrifizer_Official 5 місяців тому +2

    I learnt coding because i love it. I find fun in it. Its just a hobby of mine. My main focus will be e commerce. 😊

  • @raulshakya4404
    @raulshakya4404 5 місяців тому +7

    im a freshman right now doin my undergrad in CS. Is software engineering reslly worth it? the layoffs and the market really discourages me and makes me question my major. But, I am putting in the effort as coding has really grasped my interest. but, im eeally confused at the moment so is software engineering going to be worth it?

    • @InternetMadeCoder
      @InternetMadeCoder  5 місяців тому +2

      It’s worth it, just not as easy to break in as it used to be

  • @jamessullenriot
    @jamessullenriot 4 місяці тому +1

    Learning to code was never enough. Coding is one aspect of what you do as a developer.

  • @pramitd7761
    @pramitd7761 5 місяців тому +3

    People are taking software engineers as granted that yeah everyone can do it and my child can do it, chatgpt can do it blah blah blah and they all think that there is some magic wand that anyone can swing and code will get written by itself. But these people don't actually realize that it is not that easy as it seems. These businesses and all are so proud of themselves and all but they don't realize that their whole company works on that fking code, if there is no code than there no company. World will only realize the true value of software developers and engineers when that code on which the whole world is enjoying will break one day(and yes it will break one day if there will be no true developers working on it) and there will be no good software developers to fix that broken code and than all the big tech companies will collapse and than the whole internet will collapse and the whole world will also collapse along with it.
    Good Luck Folks, keep ignoring and underestimating software developers as we are the ones who will have the last laugh.
    Waiting for the world to collapse due to paradoxes of broken codes 😂
    Ek Psy Congroo. Peace out✌️
    Edited:
    Also good luck using AI to write code. You have no idea what you are getting into 🤣.

    • @greyy_097
      @greyy_097 4 місяці тому

      bruh, why u so mad, lol. This is a UA-cam video, obviously he jumps on trends like the rest but you should be humble enough to acknowledge that he can't talk crap in a video and just get away with it for engagement. He has to provide points to support his arguments and he did, that's all you should take from the video!

  • @Someone-lc6dc
    @Someone-lc6dc 3 місяці тому

    OK, here's a tough question... I absolutely hate my current industry/my current job. I'm getting close to 40, so... Is it too late for me to get into coding and possibly get a job later down the road?

  • @alshuwaiee27
    @alshuwaiee27 5 місяців тому

    What is the best way to get started with learning coding after i have stopped for 1 year and half now

  • @Zulonix
    @Zulonix 4 місяці тому

    Learning to code has never been anything.
    The important thing has always been to know how to imagine a system and turn that into something the computer understands.
    The most important thing about writing decent code is so that the person who wrote it will be able to understand it afterwards. If he can’t, there is big trouble.

  • @miorosa318
    @miorosa318 5 місяців тому +8

    Twitter didn't lay off 80% because coding is EASIER. They layed them off cause they were legit there for no reason. Im not sure if you saw the video of daily life at twitter or w/e but most of those people who were working there did Absolut nothing. There was no reason for them to be paying that many employees when they could get the job done like normal w/o them.

    • @LiberaMeFromH
      @LiberaMeFromH 5 місяців тому +3

      That was practically every faang daily life video back in 2020-2022.

    • @InternetMadeCoder
      @InternetMadeCoder  5 місяців тому +1

      That's the point - there is less demand for engineers than before and more supply

    • @delavago5379
      @delavago5379 5 місяців тому

      ​@InternetMadeCoder they didn't only lay-off programmers. So your wording was still wrong

    • @miorosa318
      @miorosa318 5 місяців тому

      @@InternetMadeCoder thats not the point i was making though. Most of those jobs were fluff. They did nothing in the job scene there. So pretty much all of that 80% there was not needed to begin with. Not because they don't need programmers.

  • @ngjimmy
    @ngjimmy 5 місяців тому +3

    Yep everyone forgets about IT Operations...
    In a bull market with cheap credit you can pay and bs your way out of a crisis. But in a depressed market when managers are cutting costs to the bone... You gotta learn the hard reality of Ops. Good luck to those that never were in Ops...

  • @samreeve9738
    @samreeve9738 5 місяців тому +3

    In the UK at least, I'm not sure this is the case. I left school (A levels) 5 years ago and my CS cohort was tiny, I am the only one to become a developer after school. I've done work in STEM outreach, going into schools and trying to get kids to give a shit about code. They don't. There is a deficit of people going inro STEM here, despite the fantastic opportunities like degree apprenticeships we have in the uk. Comparing programming to reading and writing is not yet accurate.

    • @Rainbow-Life518
      @Rainbow-Life518 5 місяців тому +2

      Is it possible in UK to start a career late as a developer say when someone is 40 plus, Some countries like India you won't get an interview call if you are that age

    • @samreeve9738
      @samreeve9738 2 місяці тому

      @@Rainbow-Life518 most of the people I work with are above the age of 40, granted this is in bigger firms (talking biggest in the UK), so you certainly can, a lot of people in software didn't start there either. I think you'll find more younger people, in smaller businesses and may struggle to get in there.

  • @biggieg3881
    @biggieg3881 5 місяців тому +6

    Thank God I quit and I put coding on the side and switched to e-commerce marketing (email, CRO, etc.). Best decision ever, and just as a high pay rate for someone like me from the developing world.
    Doing front-end development work (especially for agencies -- never again!) was the most burnout-inducing experience ever. Coding is good but only for the side.

    • @elenan1217
      @elenan1217 5 місяців тому

      What skills did you need to learn?

    • @JohnR-fc7vr
      @JohnR-fc7vr 5 місяців тому +1

      I thought sales and marketing were both equally crazy. Sales for sure. Not sure about marketing. It's not as mind numbing is it? I'm asking because I too want to quit this BS coding job that has inhuman working hours.

    • @fabianpetersen2452
      @fabianpetersen2452 5 місяців тому

      Im doing cloud computing now, going for devOps with knowledge of React etc...

    • @biggieg3881
      @biggieg3881 5 місяців тому +1

      @@JohnR-fc7vr Sales definitely is harder, especially for introverts. I thought marketing was just all about TV ads and stuff, turns out I was wrong. There's analytics, email copywriting, and other facets that also allow for creativity. Also in this age of AI, marketing will be more valuable than ever (as it has always had).

    • @Turnpost2552
      @Turnpost2552 3 місяці тому

      @@biggieg3881 umm no lol. Lol analytics is complete automatable, copying lol, tv ads ideas can be generated. lol what drugs are you on.

  • @Msyo_Jaber
    @Msyo_Jaber 2 місяці тому

    Thank

  • @Brightprogrammer-hd6ox
    @Brightprogrammer-hd6ox 5 місяців тому

    If a person come and ask you i need to learn how to code and he or she have been told by other people in the society that programming it has and you can not do it what advice will you give a person 🥺

  • @user-sr3gi8jg6t
    @user-sr3gi8jg6t 5 місяців тому

    whatever you said has always been true. It's not a 2024 thing.

  • @sanjayganesh5302
    @sanjayganesh5302 5 місяців тому +3

    Tips for consistency while learning to code i am not consistent at all totally inconsistent plzzz give me some ideas

  • @micpowers1136
    @micpowers1136 4 місяці тому

    Learning Coding quickly isnt enough to lie about anymore.

  • @robinstahlbaum9813
    @robinstahlbaum9813 5 місяців тому

    you are looking at it straight on.. look sideways.. company's want you to develop the code.. take care of the infrastructure; take care of the server side glassfish.. tomcat whatever. do the security portion.. the updated to the infrastructure using whatever ansible. being their afterhours support for the infrastructure and their applications.some even want you to take care of the network portion.. aka f5 and other load balancers.. they ea t you to build capacity planning diagrams and build existing infrastructure into gcp or whatever...build documents around everything into confluence.. mentor new hires mostly the off shore people who will ultimately take your job. in some cases youl be working 70 plus hours .while being paid a base salary that should reflect 37.5 hours.... that's the new normal

  • @gianthills
    @gianthills 3 місяці тому

    Money is not in coding. Money is in selling courses.

  • @briankimathi6052
    @briankimathi6052 5 місяців тому +3

    What advice would you give someone who just graduated from high school and is interested in software development? Should he/she Join the university to pursue computer science???

    • @InternetMadeCoder
      @InternetMadeCoder  5 місяців тому +1

      Join university if 1) you want to 2) the cost isn't too high for you 3) you don't mind spending 3-4 years before you can start your career

    • @lucaslahlum6331
      @lucaslahlum6331 5 місяців тому +1

      most of my friends in US who graduated with a CS degree or bootcamp in the last two years have not been able to land a CS job, but if you are ok waiting, I did have one friend who was able to land a CS job after about 9 months of waiting. In perspective I got a liberal arts degree and got a job that pays similarly in around 2 months.

    • @adeelmoorad3439
      @adeelmoorad3439 4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah they should learn computer science and have a degree it counts

  • @TheJacrespo
    @TheJacrespo 4 місяці тому +1

    Programming is simple, ludicrously oversaturated; let's be honest. How can you expect to get a job as a coder while the very same companies you want to work for are laying off people like hell and are on a hiring freeze mode?
    And for the few available jobs, you, a starter, have to compete against top ex-Googlers, ex-Meta, ex-Microsoft, etc., engineers. Forget it

  • @anonymanonym360
    @anonymanonym360 4 місяці тому

    Why would you put this flashbang effect in between every cut? I'm legit getting cancer from that transition.

  • @wlevy3190
    @wlevy3190 3 місяці тому +1

    dang... I think I've born at the wrong time, I dont even think my front-end skills will be worth it for my future
    it doesn't mean I will stop studying, but well... if theres a god I hope it has mercy on my future lol

  • @VanyaYani
    @VanyaYani 5 місяців тому

    2.5 years and you've just realized that software development isn't just about coding?

  • @OkamiSeishin
    @OkamiSeishin 3 місяці тому

    0:46 you know if i recall someone in the 1980’s knew how to code in basic, and yet now no one does, thats why being a “coder” or “programmer” became a job in the first place, people will always find the easiest way, and programming is not a easy way and never will be when compared to front end gui operating systems and likely future ai products that can just program for you, your argument is irrelevant and vaporware, you should do more research on the past before predicting the future 😂

  • @maxmuster7003
    @maxmuster7003 5 місяців тому

    I never want to get money for programming.

  • @ishaat_plays
    @ishaat_plays 4 місяці тому

    Wait till AGI comes then the word you are worrying will make you a devastated person..

  • @abdulbasetwangde6232
    @abdulbasetwangde6232 5 місяців тому

    He's spitting some hard facts😢

  • @nice_inputs
    @nice_inputs 5 місяців тому

    0:69 I wish you FRIES Friends
    Rich
    Intelligent
    Empowerment
    Superhealth

  • @basicallybored4962
    @basicallybored4962 5 місяців тому

    may be the case in the US lol but the rest of the world is pretty ok with that

  • @Msyo_Jaber
    @Msyo_Jaber 2 місяці тому

    👍

  • @nikolai1980
    @nikolai1980 5 місяців тому +2

    Author uses ai clickbait title generator 😂

  • @user-vh3tu7bh9g
    @user-vh3tu7bh9g 5 місяців тому +1

    Without CS degree can i get a job in US remotely 😅

    • @helloworld2054
      @helloworld2054 5 місяців тому +3

      Even with a CS degree its difficult nowadays.

  • @nikolai1980
    @nikolai1980 5 місяців тому +3

    Bullshit. The market is glutted with juniors and overworth programming languages like python, etc. Those languages with a low entry threshold. I agree that GPT writes code better than the major of Indian programmers. But GPT can't make the code better than qualified programmer. So GPT power is overworth like the most of third-world programmers.

    • @user-li6fy2gl1d
      @user-li6fy2gl1d 5 місяців тому

      i m indian and you are true but also not

    • @nikolai1980
      @nikolai1980 5 місяців тому +2

      @@user-li6fy2gl1d I've worked with Indian and Chinese programmers for years. So that's absolutely true. Most of them could be replaced with GPT.

    • @helloworld2054
      @helloworld2054 5 місяців тому

      Most of them are only for money and followed some dumb influencer, ask them anything about basic stuff they will choke and crumble. They think software engineering is equal to memorizing data structures and algorithms and designing some clone websites.

    • @Darkcamera45
      @Darkcamera45 4 місяці тому

      such an overgeneralization how on gods earth do you know that the majority of indian and chinese programmars can be replaced by gpt. Youve prolly worked with maybe 100 at most and are using that expereince to generalize to literally millions of people

  • @Pdot608
    @Pdot608 5 місяців тому +1

    I’m the 5th comment wow

    • @Pdot608
      @Pdot608 5 місяців тому

      I sound like a robot wtf is wrong with me lmaooo

    • @InternetMadeCoder
      @InternetMadeCoder  5 місяців тому

      🍪

    • @Pdot608
      @Pdot608 5 місяців тому

      @@InternetMadeCoder thanks I love cookies are these firstparty or third party cookies 😂😂

  • @Gevin-mc2ij
    @Gevin-mc2ij 5 місяців тому

    2nd comment

  • @allumallu6580
    @allumallu6580 3 місяці тому

    I love what in seeing-> whining and crying, LUL

  • @filibustergaming3848
    @filibustergaming3848 4 місяці тому

    Blah blah blah

  • @andrews4379
    @andrews4379 5 місяців тому

    Talking bullshit