To be honest I have no experience with these internal settings. I would suggest keeping them in default. Also let me know what these settings are, maybe we can figure out something logical from the names.
I now use 10 sensitivity and 5 torque in game and 65 FFB strength on a DD1 podium with torque key plugged in for all tyers upto racing, and 55 FFB strength for racing slicks. Also I found that turning the centre spring off will give slightly more nuance FFB with zero effect to the feeling of the castor of the front wheels or loss of FFB for feeling the rear tyers.
Thanks a lot for your comments man. I have zero experience with fanatec's internal settings, so this should really help fanatec users better adjust their wheels in combination with my settings, especially that you have the same approach as I do. I also noticed in other sims like Assetto Corsa that turning the in game centering spring effect off, does a better job in delivering better and more detailed ffb, and that makes total sense.
Thanks a lot for explaining this all. Will be testing this out as soon as I can. I'm also really interested in your T-LCM settings. Like which springs do you use and at what number did you set your brake force and deadzones. Oh, and do you use any washers? Would really appreciate this info, it should help me a lot also with drifting I suppose.
You're welcome and I really hope this helps. I'm currently using the stiffest springs, the red ones, without any washers. I think this best simulates the real feel of a brake pedal and I like to have that little soft travel when I first press it. I removed all dead zones, except for the clutch I kept it at default. And I currently have the brake force at 89. But that was some quick initial setup when I first got the pedals, not a long time ago. I'm still planning to do some testing, in search for the optimal brake force value, but it feels good for now and I didn't have enough time for that yet.
I'll try these T-LCM settings you're using. Thanks for sharing! And after some testing with your settings for the T-GT II, I kinda like it. It feels a bit heavy with race cars, but I get what you mean.
You're welcome man! You might need to dial the max torque a bit for some race cars, I haven't tested everything yet. But I'm very sure about the controller steering sensitivity and the force feedback sensitivity this way.
As always great job , much appreciate your time for these videos, a lot of people do not break it down and just say, put these settings cause I said so , to actually explain why we should use these settings is well genius🧠. 🤙🏼 Keep it up 💪
from what I understand, the ideal "controller sensitivity" for drifting on a wheel would be -2, as it gives you a smaller steering ratio around center so easier to initiate, and a higher ratio at high angle, so easier to make smooth corrections. Linear is cool but not necessarily optimal.
It's not about the sensitivity being linear nor about it being easier. It's about the physics being realistic. The visual virtual wheel in cockpit view as well as the visual front wheels in the graphics part of the game always follow your physical steering wheel no matter what CSS value you use. What gets ruined is their effect in the physics. Anything below 5 for CSS and the front end of the car will react less than what the rotation of the visual wheels should make it turn. Any thing more than 5 and the front end will turn much more than the wheels are turning, and looks like something invisible is holding that front end and turning it independently of what the front wheels are doing. It looks awful and highly unrealistic and ruins the replays. And for best realistic feel compared to the real thing to actually drive and not just play a driving game, it's much superior and intuitive at 5. Do you get what I mean bro? If you're used to it at -2, I highly suggest you give it a go at 5 for some while. Trust me once you get used it you'll never wanna change it ESPECIALLY for drifting.
Also by Linear I mean 1:1 with how it should be in real life given the geometry of the suspension and everything which is not exactly linear from steering wheel to the front wheels, but in exact coherence with how it should be.
@@SimActionClips so far the guys who have tried going to -2 are instantly loving it and telling me it's way better.. btw it's also how I used to use GT for years with a wheel (even though I thought it did nothing I just had it at -2 for the rare occasions I'd use a controller) Dont they have steering mods that do that irl? And it's alright if it's not 100% accurately depicted, GTS used to do much worse visually when using drift settings.
I hated it so much in GT Sport and always trie to fix it, finally knew what was wrong but in GT7. They might have things to adjust it in real life the way you're describing it, but it's a totally different thing in the game. It's not that at all. It really affects the physics making it feel weird and not as predictable as it is at 5. It doesn't feel natural and you feel it a bit disconnected and delayed. The visuals are very important to me but that's not the point either. You see it's actually something unintended from the developers. They actually state that it does nothing lol. I think they made it for controller players to feel easier, and didn't really unlink it for wheel users. It affects the physics and not the actual transmission of your inputs. It's not accurate to say it's the linearity setting for your inputs.
@@philmoregain You can't on a t300, cause you will loose your ffb after 10/15 mins. Actualy, 3 for gr1 cars, 4 for gr3 & 6 for road cars & you can play as long as you want with no overheating
I wish so bad to buy a steering wheel and pedals! But unfortunately, with 3 sons and this stupid war, living in my country is becoming so hard to provide the best food, best clothes, shoes etc, to my kids! So I'm not seeing myself buying that anytime soon! Playing with the controller isn't so immersive and so fun, like the steering wheel!!! But you use the hammer you have to put the nail in the wood! I love your videos, and help me a lot. The video you did to chose the jaguar or the Mazda for the last menu cafe help me a lot, I was sick of failing but I bought the jaguar and copy the tuning you put in the video and I only stay in second place in 1 race the others all in first place and in the end first place. So thank you👍💯
I feel you man I've been there. I don't even have a family and kids to look after and I still struggled and worked hard and waited to be able to finally purchase my equipment. I really hope this stupid war ends and we never see other ones again. Gotta say you probably got me mixed up with another channel regarding that Mazda and Jaguar race, so you need to go thank them not me. Much love to you and your family and I really hope things get better soon!
Now the ffb is much better and I m happy they start improving it, but the downside of the update is that they increased indistinctly the details and when driving the off-road tracks now you get too strong vibrations, they should balance it and reduce it when off-road..did you try the off-road tracks?have a good day
Oh I haven't tried any off-road yet. Will do and let you know what I think. But it's true they improved things a lot on tarmac. Which wheel are you using btw? And thanks for your feedback, that's interesting.
@@SimActionClips I have a humble g29, not the best but I know what it can give with simulators on PC and now it's starting to feel alive also using gt7...in my opinion they should consider introducing a per car ffb setting because there are too many different car classes so it's not easy to create a ffb that can adapt to every car automatically..now some cars are good, others too light or to strong on the wheel..if you drive a slow car now the ffb is too light..the opposite with high power ones, but I think they will update the ffb again..when off road I tried reducing the rigidity of the suspensions to mitigate the vibrations but I think it's not the way to go...it should be more "flexible" by itself
I think the only setting that you should change between cars is the max torque. The ideal and most realistic way to adjust the other 2 settings is the same for all cars: - controller steering sensitivity: 5 - force feedback sensitivity: 10
Once again a very informative video from you, great job! Considering your drifting tutorial, when I'm able to steadily drift the skidpad in both directions, what would be the next step? Starting to practice on a proper track? If so, which track, which car, which setup and which tyres do you recommend for this - should we still be using the M3? Thanks, mate!
Thanks a lot man! Yeah you can start practicing drifting real turns on proper tracks, Tsukuba is a nice track for that, you can use the same car first since you got used to it. The next part though won't be about that yet. I need to finish covering all the basics first. There are so many details still: all different ways of initiating a drift, brake pedal control in all kinds of scenarios, transitions... It's still a good idea to do your own practice though and figure out what you're doing wrong and what is right when the future videos are out. Another great idea also is to practice the same exercise of part1 but with more powerful and more edgy cars. The C63 AMG is a great example and it's very fun when you get used to it.
@@SimActionClips I just tested the T-LCM, and the first 70% of the pedal it outputs like 20% in GT7. The rest comes after 70%, very sensitive. I think that the throttle pedal of the T300 standard set has it way more linear.
I used to have it the same with the standard pedals of the Logitech G29. I don't think the linearity changes. I never tried the standard pedals of the T300 though.
@@SimActionClips tested it on the T300 pedals. The throttle seems a bit more linear, but that's probably because the pedal doesn't have as long a travel as the T-LCM pedal. So your hunch turned out to be right.
Thank you, I thought the same. This is what got me into creating videos with voice over. I'm currently using an even better one in my opinion. Check it out if you like: ua-cam.com/video/aNb7f5VzA2E/v-deo.html
You're welcome! - Controller steering sensitivity: 5 - Max torque: somewhere between 6 and 10, not sure which is best for the T300 you have to try. - Force feedback sensitivity: 10 you can watch my older video to know in more details why I set them this way: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
It's so much fun and looks so cool in my opinion. I spent hours refining its setup when I made this video of it: ua-cam.com/video/Box3hghups4/v-deo.html I put the setup of the end of the video, but I'm not sure if still works the same after the update. I might have to tweak it again.
@@SimActionClips I got the impression that the car's handling has improved, more details are transferred to the steering wheel from the road surface. Perhaps this is due to the latest update 1.43, but this is not written anywhere. Have you noticed any changes?
Not a fan of the FFB on my T150 wheel after the 1.31 update. Too much road surface feedback now. My wheel vibrates and clips all the time. Even turning FFB torque and sensitivity down to 1 doesn't stop the clipping. It needs a road surface vibration option to turn it down.
You got a wrong understanding of the term clipping means man. You mean by it the vibrations right? When they tell you to lower these values down to avoid clipping they mean a totally different thing. They're talking about the higher forces being clipped = downsized by the capabilities of your wheel. You can better understand what that means from this short clip: ua-cam.com/users/shorts-mi2V__LLfM?feature=share Anyway that's a very bad advice even for what it is actually meant for and for many reasons. When you set the ffb sensitivity down to 1 you're actually increasing these vibrations and ruining the important forces at the same time. Forget everything you've been told and use these exact settings: - Controller steering sensitivity: 5 - Max torque: 10 - Force feedback sensitivity: 10 If you still find the vibrations too annoying with these settings, just lower the max torque without ever changing the other settings. You can watch this video to better know why I set them this way: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
- Controller Steering Sensitivity: 5 - Max torque 6 or below i guess, you have to try. - Force Feedback sensitivity: 10 You can watch this video for more detailed explanation of why i set them this way: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
hi recently got into gran turismo drifting and i want to get into sim drifting on gran turismo can your recommend me a steering wheel, shifter, pedals, shifter. it would be appreciated if you respond : )
Hi man. That depends on your budget. The Logitech G923 is a nice entry level wheel but it has its limitations. If your budget is not an issue I would highly recommend the Fanatec DD Pro which was developed specifically for GT7 . If you find it too expensive you can go for a Thrustmaster TGT2 which was also developed for GT7, if that's cheaper in your region, but I would highly recommend you get the T-LCM pedals with it since the standard ones are rubbish. You can also get something in between the G923 and the TGT2 which is the Thrustmaster T300, also great value for money. You also have the new direct drive from Logitech the G Pro and the new direct drive wheelbase from Thrustmaster the T818 but I still haven't seen enough to judge these two compared to the Fanatec DD Pro.
@@Reczony you mean physically installing and connecting things? It's really straightforward man, and there surely are plenty of videos about that. Anyway let me know if you face any issues, you can ask anything you want when you get there.
Which ffb settings are yo using? And did you try my settings? You can watch this video for more information on why I set them this way: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
@scott D, what do you mean by best? You'll be feeling more vibrations from the road at 1 but that's it. More important forces related to tire resistance become very bad and misleading, and also delayed.
for drifting it differs i like 1-3 sens. at 5 i can’t go over curbs or oversteer the car on the limit of the tire. more understeer in general. i came form playing AC so my preference in that style ffb
@michel 5 for everything... IMO I always aim for thr most natural and realistic singlr setting for all kinds of driving. In other words It is not a matter of preferences, IRL you dont change anything for drifting and car provides with the feel it can provide. There is no FFB setting for drifting and another for time if you are aiming for Realism.
These are my best settings - Controller steering sensitivity: 5 - Max torque: 10 - Force feedback sensitivity: 10 You can lower the max torque if you feel it's too harsh but it's most responsive at 10 you can watch my older video to know in more details why I set them this way: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
In your playstation's main menu, you hover over the game's icon and click on options, then choose "check for updates". You might have them already installed already, since you can't make any progress in the game without being online and without updating. In that case, it will tell you that it's up to date.
Do you mean the steering wheel angle? You cannot change that from the game. You only can from the internal settings of some wheels like my Thrustmaster TGT2. There is no such thing as best angle tough. I always recommend what is most realistic, to best develop your skills. I would have gone for 1080 degrees on my TGT2 but it is not physically capable of being fast enough with that angle, so I stick with the default 900 degrees. In some DD wheels it could be possible to use more angle. I would never recommend less angle, one can simply use a controller then and just "play".
yes man that's totally normal, I've explained where that is coming from in the video (real footage of the porsche cayenne). Also most of these vibrations in the TGT2 come from the transducer mounted at the front end of the wheelbase, not from the steering mechanism itself. That transducer is a special feature in the TGT2 made exactly for that purpose.
These are my best settings for the G29 which is the same: - Controller steering sensitivity: 5 - Max torque: 10 - Force feedback sensitivity: 10 You can lower the max torque if you feel it's too harsh but it's most responsive at 10 you can watch my older video to know in more details why I set them this way: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
For me it looks and feels like my wheel sometimes can’t register my steering input mid steering. Especially in the interior camera I can see how the steering wheel “lags” mid steering . Very frustrating
@@SimActionClips ps5 on a t300rs. Same wheel Settings like in your videos. This only happened since the update. I also thought maybe it’s grip loss mid steering but you can clearly see some kind of “lag”
Have you tried checking on your pc to see if your wheel needs and update? Or try unplugging everything from the wheel and install it back and calibrate on your pc or laptop and try it again. Just a suggestion hope you can fix your issue.
What screen are you using? A TV screen can introduce visual lag which is very frustrating... Also do you have yhe graphics setting set on prioritize frame rate?
Why is the game continue want to center the wheel on the game its try to adjust for the controller, why can't you remove dead zone from the wheel and setup your own deg of rotation for gt7 if it suppose to be a real sim racing game, the game is set on 1080deg only 🤔??
Which wheel are you using and what are your force feedback settings? Watch this video to know how i set up mine: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html Using these settings the game actually behaves very close to real life. And it's normal for the wheel to want to return to the center most of the times, unless there is something particularly unusual that you're talking about. The game automatically changes the degrees of rotation dependin on the car you're driving (and it's limited by the physical capabilities of your steering wheel of course). I think that's much more realistic than giving you the freedom to set it manually and randomly. Nevertheless, you can still change that from the internal settings of some wheels like my Thrustmaster TGT2.
Just a shame ps4 doesn't support my steering wheel. It's a logitech G920 and shifter .doesn't work with it so I was gutted when I got all set up only to be letdown like an old tyre
Ohh you mad a mistake man, I'm sorry for that. Try if you can trade it for a G29. The G920 is exactly the same wheel but for XBOX. Logitech made 2 version of it because of console compatibility. The G29 works with PC and PlayStation but not XBOX, and the G920 works with PC and XBOX but not PlayStation.
@@SimActionClips I'm good with it because I use it for the pc anyway m8 I have the xbox pass thingy on there and I also play lots of driving games too so I enjoy the wheel with the pc and I use the ps4 just now and then .But thanks for giving me some info about the compatibility for Gran turismo m8 .
Oh I always had the same issue with my G29. I reduced the severity of it by opening up a window in the case and installing a 12x12 cooling fan. The problem with these wheels is that the motors heat up and they lose power because of it. Your T300 already has a cooling fan, but I think I saw some better cooling modes where you can buy and installe more powerful fans for better cooling. You can also enable the forced cooling mode in it by pressing mode button + option st button together, the LED will blink twice and the fan will be always on. To go back to automatic cooling you press these once again together.
- Controller steering sensitivity: 5 - Max torque: 10 - Force feedback sensitivity: 10 you can watch my older video to know in more details why I set them this way: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
@itsme2369 thank you, and I actually use max torque at 10 for the G29 because it's not as powerful as the TGT2. you can watch my older video to know in more details why I set them this way: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
but they could do this with out drowning the acceleration don't get me started on the AI and penalty's wen it rains no matter how much you kiss up to gt7 the game is broken
lol why do I wanna Kiss up to anybody? There is nothing in it for me. All I care about, and am talking about here, are the physics and ffb, which got more realistic, which is what I'm looking for. There are tones of issues in other aspects that's true especially the penalties (which are not an easy task to get right btw and can never be perfect), but why are you addressing them to me, and that way? I prefer GT7 for its physics engine, and that's the limited subject of this video.
It feels much better now, and your videos are ace. Thank you😎👍
You're welcome! And thanks a lot for your feedback 🤟🏻🤟🏻
@@SimActionClips Do you have any advice on the T248, it has its own ffb settings as well as the games, gets confusing 😂
To be honest I have no experience with these internal settings. I would suggest keeping them in default. Also let me know what these settings are, maybe we can figure out something logical from the names.
Physics and FFB are vastly improved
very true! It's phenomenal
The way the information is presented in your videos is outstanding. Thank you very much!!!
Thanks a lot for the support! And you're welcome, always glad if my videos help you guys 🤟🏻
You're one of the Best GT UA-camr out there 👍👍
Thanks a lot buddy, I appreciate it!! 🤟🏻🤟🏻
@@SimActionClips Thank You, Can't wait for more content from You bro 😉
Another great, little video! 😊👍
Facts, humour, smart presentation, a large measure of sideways skills 👏
Thanks a lot bro!! I appreciate your support 🤟🏻🤟🏻
Thanks for this video! I clearly noticed
You're welcome! thank you for your feedback 🤟🏻🤟🏻
I now use 10 sensitivity and 5 torque in game and 65 FFB strength on a DD1 podium with torque key plugged in for all tyers upto racing, and 55 FFB strength for racing slicks.
Also I found that turning the centre spring off will give slightly more nuance FFB with zero effect to the feeling of the castor of the front wheels or loss of FFB for feeling the rear tyers.
Thanks a lot for your comments man. I have zero experience with fanatec's internal settings, so this should really help fanatec users better adjust their wheels in combination with my settings, especially that you have the same approach as I do.
I also noticed in other sims like Assetto Corsa that turning the in game centering spring effect off, does a better job in delivering better and more detailed ffb, and that makes total sense.
New physics are beautiful and I'm on motion controls and can still feel the difference
yea someone else has told me the same, I have to try this!
I’ve had exactly the same impressions … wasn’t sure … apparently I wasn’t alone… thanks
You're welcome man and thank you for your feedback 🤟🏻🤟🏻
Thanks a lot for explaining this all. Will be testing this out as soon as I can. I'm also really interested in your T-LCM settings. Like which springs do you use and at what number did you set your brake force and deadzones. Oh, and do you use any washers? Would really appreciate this info, it should help me a lot also with drifting I suppose.
You're welcome and I really hope this helps. I'm currently using the stiffest springs, the red ones, without any washers. I think this best simulates the real feel of a brake pedal and I like to have that little soft travel when I first press it. I removed all dead zones, except for the clutch I kept it at default. And I currently have the brake force at 89. But that was some quick initial setup when I first got the pedals, not a long time ago. I'm still planning to do some testing, in search for the optimal brake force value, but it feels good for now and I didn't have enough time for that yet.
I'll try these T-LCM settings you're using. Thanks for sharing! And after some testing with your settings for the T-GT II, I kinda like it. It feels a bit heavy with race cars, but I get what you mean.
You're welcome man! You might need to dial the max torque a bit for some race cars, I haven't tested everything yet. But I'm very sure about the controller steering sensitivity and the force feedback sensitivity this way.
As always great job , much appreciate your time for these videos, a lot of people do not break it down and just say, put these settings cause I said so , to actually explain why we should use these settings is well genius🧠. 🤙🏼 Keep it up 💪
Thanks a lot man! I really appreciate your continuous support. I hope to always be of good help! Cheers 🤟🏻🤟🏻
from what I understand, the ideal "controller sensitivity" for drifting on a wheel would be -2, as it gives you a smaller steering ratio around center so easier to initiate, and a higher ratio at high angle, so easier to make smooth corrections. Linear is cool but not necessarily optimal.
It's not about the sensitivity being linear nor about it being easier. It's about the physics being realistic. The visual virtual wheel in cockpit view as well as the visual front wheels in the graphics part of the game always follow your physical steering wheel no matter what CSS value you use. What gets ruined is their effect in the physics. Anything below 5 for CSS and the front end of the car will react less than what the rotation of the visual wheels should make it turn. Any thing more than 5 and the front end will turn much more than the wheels are turning, and looks like something invisible is holding that front end and turning it independently of what the front wheels are doing. It looks awful and highly unrealistic and ruins the replays. And for best realistic feel compared to the real thing to actually drive and not just play a driving game, it's much superior and intuitive at 5. Do you get what I mean bro?
If you're used to it at -2, I highly suggest you give it a go at 5 for some while. Trust me once you get used it you'll never wanna change it ESPECIALLY for drifting.
Also by Linear I mean 1:1 with how it should be in real life given the geometry of the suspension and everything which is not exactly linear from steering wheel to the front wheels, but in exact coherence with how it should be.
@@SimActionClips so far the guys who have tried going to -2 are instantly loving it and telling me it's way better.. btw it's also how I used to use GT for years with a wheel (even though I thought it did nothing I just had it at -2 for the rare occasions I'd use a controller)
Dont they have steering mods that do that irl? And it's alright if it's not 100% accurately depicted, GTS used to do much worse visually when using drift settings.
I hated it so much in GT Sport and always trie to fix it, finally knew what was wrong but in GT7. They might have things to adjust it in real life the way you're describing it, but it's a totally different thing in the game. It's not that at all. It really affects the physics making it feel weird and not as predictable as it is at 5. It doesn't feel natural and you feel it a bit disconnected and delayed. The visuals are very important to me but that's not the point either.
You see it's actually something unintended from the developers. They actually state that it does nothing lol. I think they made it for controller players to feel easier, and didn't really unlink it for wheel users. It affects the physics and not the actual transmission of your inputs. It's not accurate to say it's the linearity setting for your inputs.
Btw i never used the drift sheet in GTS it's awful lol. I sticked with road sheets which felt much better.
I have the T300, the FFB is just so much better now, I don't understand why people say otherwise. and by the way, you are a legend!
Thanks a lot man! I'm just describing what I observe. And thank you for your feedback 🤟🏻🤟🏻
Did you put max torgue on 10 or lower?
@@philmoregain You can't on a t300, cause you will loose your ffb after 10/15 mins. Actualy, 3 for gr1 cars, 4 for gr3 & 6 for road cars & you can play as long as you want with no overheating
@@mig6168 okay thanks ! Cant wait for my wheel to arrive
@@philmoregain it's a good wheel :)
I wish so bad to buy a steering wheel and pedals! But unfortunately, with 3 sons and this stupid war, living in my country is becoming so hard to provide the best food, best clothes, shoes etc, to my kids! So I'm not seeing myself buying that anytime soon! Playing with the controller isn't so immersive and so fun, like the steering wheel!!! But you use the hammer you have to put the nail in the wood! I love your videos, and help me a lot. The video you did to chose the jaguar or the Mazda for the last menu cafe help me a lot, I was sick of failing but I bought the jaguar and copy the tuning you put in the video and I only stay in second place in 1 race the others all in first place and in the end first place. So thank you👍💯
I feel you man I've been there. I don't even have a family and kids to look after and I still struggled and worked hard and waited to be able to finally purchase my equipment. I really hope this stupid war ends and we never see other ones again. Gotta say you probably got me mixed up with another channel regarding that Mazda and Jaguar race, so you need to go thank them not me. Much love to you and your family and I really hope things get better soon!
Now the ffb is much better and I m happy they start improving it, but the downside of the update is that they increased indistinctly the details and when driving the off-road tracks now you get too strong vibrations, they should balance it and reduce it when off-road..did you try the off-road tracks?have a good day
Oh I haven't tried any off-road yet. Will do and let you know what I think. But it's true they improved things a lot on tarmac. Which wheel are you using btw? And thanks for your feedback, that's interesting.
@@SimActionClips I have a humble g29, not the best but I know what it can give with simulators on PC and now it's starting to feel alive also using gt7...in my opinion they should consider introducing a per car ffb setting because there are too many different car classes so it's not easy to create a ffb that can adapt to every car automatically..now some cars are good, others too light or to strong on the wheel..if you drive a slow car now the ffb is too light..the opposite with high power ones, but I think they will update the ffb again..when off road I tried reducing the rigidity of the suspensions to mitigate the vibrations but I think it's not the way to go...it should be more "flexible" by itself
@@miro8743 Good point and it heavily depends on tyres. Big difference between tyre type.
I think the only setting that you should change between cars is the max torque. The ideal and most realistic way to adjust the other 2 settings is the same for all cars:
- controller steering sensitivity: 5
- force feedback sensitivity: 10
@@SimActionClips Does controller sensitivity affect wheel ff? I guess it's only for controller.
Once again a very informative video from you, great job! Considering your drifting tutorial, when I'm able to steadily drift the skidpad in both directions, what would be the next step? Starting to practice on a proper track? If so, which track, which car, which setup and which tyres do you recommend for this - should we still be using the M3? Thanks, mate!
Thanks a lot man! Yeah you can start practicing drifting real turns on proper tracks, Tsukuba is a nice track for that, you can use the same car first since you got used to it. The next part though won't be about that yet. I need to finish covering all the basics first. There are so many details still: all different ways of initiating a drift, brake pedal control in all kinds of scenarios, transitions... It's still a good idea to do your own practice though and figure out what you're doing wrong and what is right when the future videos are out. Another great idea also is to practice the same exercise of part1 but with more powerful and more edgy cars. The C63 AMG is a great example and it's very fun when you get used to it.
@@SimActionClips Great tips, thank you!
You're welcome man! Good luck 🤟🏻
I see you're using the T3PM. Is the output of the throttle pedal linear? Love the videos!
Thank you!. No I'm using the T-LCM pedals. The output of the throttle pedal in Gran Turismo has never been linear for any pedal set.
@@SimActionClips I just tested the T-LCM, and the first 70% of the pedal it outputs like 20% in GT7. The rest comes after 70%, very sensitive. I think that the throttle pedal of the T300 standard set has it way more linear.
I used to have it the same with the standard pedals of the Logitech G29. I don't think the linearity changes. I never tried the standard pedals of the T300 though.
@@SimActionClips I'm not able to race the next week with the T300, but I'll check after that and let you know.
@@SimActionClips tested it on the T300 pedals. The throttle seems a bit more linear, but that's probably because the pedal doesn't have as long a travel as the T-LCM pedal. So your hunch turned out to be right.
Thank you for this info
you're welcome! 🤟🏻🤟🏻
The new physics make race tires feel like comfort tires
You mean they made them less grippy, which is more realistic now.
1:56 road information in GT7
Hahaha! Good one
You just have the wrong settings
For an AI voice that's not bad at all.
Thank you, I thought the same. This is what got me into creating videos with voice over. I'm currently using an even better one in my opinion. Check it out if you like: ua-cam.com/video/aNb7f5VzA2E/v-deo.html
What should you recommended for my t300? Thank you for you info!
You're welcome!
- Controller steering sensitivity: 5
- Max torque: somewhere between 6 and 10, not sure which is best for the T300 you have to try.
- Force feedback sensitivity: 10
you can watch my older video to know in more details why I set them this way: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
Used to have that Merc, didn’t get up to any of these shenanigans tho.
It's so much fun and looks so cool in my opinion. I spent hours refining its setup when I made this video of it: ua-cam.com/video/Box3hghups4/v-deo.html
I put the setup of the end of the video, but I'm not sure if still works the same after the update. I might have to tweak it again.
@@SimActionClips ahhhh..
I’ve just got GT7, PSVR2 and a rig yesterday.
Once I get over the motion sickness.. I’ll be getting stuck in.
Welcome to the rabbit hole 🤣
I need to get my hands on one of these PSVR2
I have a g29 and the ffb feels lighter less counter steering I have to do the work myself and I use 5 10 10
The G29 is not very capable that's why I switched to the TGT2
Thanks I have the TGT2 also. Would you still recommend control steering sensitivity 5. Force feedback 6. Sensitivity 10.
You're welcome man. And yes these are still my recommended settings for the TGT2 till the time of typing this comment.
@@SimActionClips thank you
@@SimActionClips I got the impression that the car's handling has improved, more details are transferred to the steering wheel from the road surface. Perhaps this is due to the latest update 1.43, but this is not written anywhere. Have you noticed any changes?
Not a fan of the FFB on my T150 wheel after the 1.31 update. Too much road surface feedback now. My wheel vibrates and clips all the time. Even turning FFB torque and sensitivity down to 1 doesn't stop the clipping. It needs a road surface vibration option to turn it down.
You got a wrong understanding of the term clipping means man. You mean by it the vibrations right? When they tell you to lower these values down to avoid clipping they mean a totally different thing. They're talking about the higher forces being clipped = downsized by the capabilities of your wheel. You can better understand what that means from this short clip: ua-cam.com/users/shorts-mi2V__LLfM?feature=share
Anyway that's a very bad advice even for what it is actually meant for and for many reasons.
When you set the ffb sensitivity down to 1 you're actually increasing these vibrations and ruining the important forces at the same time. Forget everything you've been told and use these exact settings:
- Controller steering sensitivity: 5
- Max torque: 10
- Force feedback sensitivity: 10
If you still find the vibrations too annoying with these settings, just lower the max torque without ever changing the other settings.
You can watch this video to better know why I set them this way: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
someone is telling ma that you should turn off controller vibration in main menu, I still have to test that but you can try it as well
What should I set my logitech pro feed back to
- Controller Steering Sensitivity: 5
- Max torque 6 or below i guess, you have to try.
- Force Feedback sensitivity: 10
You can watch this video for more detailed explanation of why i set them this way: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
hi recently got into gran turismo drifting and i want to get into sim drifting on gran turismo can your recommend me a steering wheel, shifter, pedals, shifter. it would be appreciated if you respond : )
Hi man. That depends on your budget. The Logitech G923 is a nice entry level wheel but it has its limitations. If your budget is not an issue I would highly recommend the Fanatec DD Pro which was developed specifically for GT7 . If you find it too expensive you can go for a Thrustmaster TGT2 which was also developed for GT7, if that's cheaper in your region, but I would highly recommend you get the T-LCM pedals with it since the standard ones are rubbish. You can also get something in between the G923 and the TGT2 which is the Thrustmaster T300, also great value for money. You also have the new direct drive from Logitech the G Pro and the new direct drive wheelbase from Thrustmaster the T818 but I still haven't seen enough to judge these two compared to the Fanatec DD Pro.
@@SimActionClips ok thank you and if i were to set it all up could you by any chance post a video about that
@@Reczony you mean physically installing and connecting things? It's really straightforward man, and there surely are plenty of videos about that. Anyway let me know if you face any issues, you can ask anything you want when you get there.
With my G29 I don’t feel nearly the feedback I did in GT6. Almost numb.
Which ffb settings are yo using? And did you try my settings?
You can watch this video for more information on why I set them this way: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
I find 4 as ffb strength and 1 to sensitivity as best settings for t300
Steering sensitivity to 5 is best for all wheels. Trust this info with yours eyes closed ;)
@scott D, what do you mean by best? You'll be feeling more vibrations from the road at 1 but that's it. More important forces related to tire resistance become very bad and misleading, and also delayed.
i agree 5 the wheel is to sharp for time attack im on 3-4 sens drifting. im usually in the top 1000
for drifting it differs i like 1-3 sens. at 5 i can’t go over curbs or oversteer the car on the limit of the tire. more understeer in general. i came form playing AC so my preference in that style ffb
@michel 5 for everything...
IMO I always aim for thr most natural and realistic singlr setting for all kinds of driving. In other words It is not a matter of preferences, IRL you dont change anything for drifting and car provides with the feel it can provide. There is no FFB setting for drifting and another for time if you are aiming for Realism.
PSVR2 got me into simming. recommended feedback max torque for G29 ?
6 for road cars/ 5 or 4 race cars. make sure to turn off controller vibration in option menu
These are my best settings
- Controller steering sensitivity: 5
- Max torque: 10
- Force feedback sensitivity: 10
You can lower the max torque if you feel it's too harsh but it's most responsive at 10
you can watch my older video to know in more details why I set them this way: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
I'm new here. How the hell do i install that upgrade?
In your playstation's main menu, you hover over the game's icon and click on options, then choose "check for updates". You might have them already installed already, since you can't make any progress in the game without being online and without updating. In that case, it will tell you that it's up to date.
What is the best handlebar angle for drifting?
Do you mean the steering wheel angle? You cannot change that from the game. You only can from the internal settings of some wheels like my Thrustmaster TGT2. There is no such thing as best angle tough. I always recommend what is most realistic, to best develop your skills. I would have gone for 1080 degrees on my TGT2 but it is not physically capable of being fast enough with that angle, so I stick with the default 900 degrees. In some DD wheels it could be possible to use more angle. I would never recommend less angle, one can simply use a controller then and just "play".
does your tgt2 vibrate aswell when you are over the limit like understeering and cant get more steering angle?
another thing im wondering is it good when wheel vibrates or should it not vibrate when im on the limit ?
It totally should as your tires would be "hopping" which causes the vibration.
yes man that's totally normal, I've explained where that is coming from in the video (real footage of the porsche cayenne). Also most of these vibrations in the TGT2 come from the transducer mounted at the front end of the wheelbase, not from the steering mechanism itself. That transducer is a special feature in the TGT2 made exactly for that purpose.
Another question so when the wheel vibrates while im turning into a corner can u turn the wheel more or should i slow down the car?
i feel like im losing so much time it feels uncomfortable for me when it vibrates i dont know what it is im 1.2 second off top 10 pace
Recommended settings for a 923?
These are my best settings for the G29 which is the same:
- Controller steering sensitivity: 5
- Max torque: 10
- Force feedback sensitivity: 10
You can lower the max torque if you feel it's too harsh but it's most responsive at 10
you can watch my older video to know in more details why I set them this way: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
For me it looks and feels like my wheel sometimes can’t register my steering input mid steering. Especially in the interior camera I can see how the steering wheel “lags” mid steering . Very frustrating
That's really weird I've never experienced that yet. It could be your system lagging btw. Are you on PS4 or PS5?
@@SimActionClips ps5 on a t300rs. Same wheel Settings like in your videos. This only happened since the update. I also thought maybe it’s grip loss mid steering but you can clearly see some kind of “lag”
Have you tried checking on your pc to see if your wheel needs and update? Or try unplugging everything from the wheel and install it back and calibrate on your pc or laptop and try it again. Just a suggestion hope you can fix your issue.
What screen are you using? A TV screen can introduce visual lag which is very frustrating...
Also do you have yhe graphics setting set on prioritize frame rate?
@@liquidsk8s hope that's his case
Why is the game continue want to center the wheel on the game its try to adjust for the controller, why can't you remove dead zone from the wheel and setup your own deg of rotation for gt7 if it suppose to be a real sim racing game, the game is set on 1080deg only 🤔??
Which wheel are you using and what are your force feedback settings?
Watch this video to know how i set up mine: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
Using these settings the game actually behaves very close to real life.
And it's normal for the wheel to want to return to the center most of the times, unless there is something particularly unusual that you're talking about. The game automatically changes the degrees of rotation dependin on the car you're driving (and it's limited by the physical capabilities of your steering wheel of course). I think that's much more realistic than giving you the freedom to set it manually and randomly. Nevertheless, you can still change that from the internal settings of some wheels like my Thrustmaster TGT2.
@@SimActionClipsFanatec F1 podium wheel with the v3 pedals
Just a shame ps4 doesn't support my steering wheel. It's a logitech G920 and shifter .doesn't work with it so I was gutted when I got all set up only to be letdown like an old tyre
Ohh you mad a mistake man, I'm sorry for that. Try if you can trade it for a G29. The G920 is exactly the same wheel but for XBOX. Logitech made 2 version of it because of console compatibility. The G29 works with PC and PlayStation but not XBOX, and the G920 works with PC and XBOX but not PlayStation.
@@SimActionClips I'm good with it because I use it for the pc anyway m8 I have the xbox pass thingy on there and I also play lots of driving games too so I enjoy the wheel with the pc and I use the ps4 just now and then .But thanks for giving me some info about the compatibility for Gran turismo m8 .
That's cool m8, you're welcome 🤟🏻
It feels a bit closer to Assetto Corsa
It feels much better in my opinion
All my road cars are screwed and t300 is now acting up
can you please describe me in detail what is happening with wheel exactly?
@@SimActionClips after about 8 min of driving the ffb just fades from min to none
Oh I always had the same issue with my G29. I reduced the severity of it by opening up a window in the case and installing a 12x12 cooling fan. The problem with these wheels is that the motors heat up and they lose power because of it. Your T300 already has a cooling fan, but I think I saw some better cooling modes where you can buy and installe more powerful fans for better cooling. You can also enable the forced cooling mode in it by pressing mode button + option st button together, the LED will blink twice and the fan will be always on. To go back to automatic cooling you press these once again together.
@Sim Action Clips yes guy on UA-cam upgraded the fan that will be next attemp i just now learned about forced cooling
Thanks. A million
You're welcome man, always glad to help 🤟🏻
what are the pc settings though?
which PC settings do you mean?
@@SimActionClips the fanalab settings.
I'm sorry I have no experience with any Fanatec wheel. Try the default settings first in combination with my in-game settings.
How can i set my g29 on ps4?
I have the G29 also I have it like he has his set up.
Controller 5
FFB Max Torque 6
FFB Sensitivity 10
@@itsme2369 sorry but i mean set the degrees of the steering wheel? Because i cant drift now
@@MrFrax21 oh I'm sorry I don't know that one cause I don't drift sorry dude. Try 45 degrees hey you can start there right?
- Controller steering sensitivity: 5
- Max torque: 10
- Force feedback sensitivity: 10
you can watch my older video to know in more details why I set them this way: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
@itsme2369 thank you, and I actually use max torque at 10 for the G29 because it's not as powerful as the TGT2.
you can watch my older video to know in more details why I set them this way: ua-cam.com/video/oEe5ZchqbMg/v-deo.html
but they could do this with out drowning the acceleration
don't get me started on the AI and penalty's wen it rains
no matter how much you kiss up to gt7 the game is broken
lol why do I wanna Kiss up to anybody? There is nothing in it for me. All I care about, and am talking about here, are the physics and ffb, which got more realistic, which is what I'm looking for. There are tones of issues in other aspects that's true especially the penalties (which are not an easy task to get right btw and can never be perfect), but why are you addressing them to me, and that way? I prefer GT7 for its physics engine, and that's the limited subject of this video.
NAAAH , the ffb for me went veeery down , it's not as easy as it used to be
It's actually much easier now because it's much more realistic and intuitive. Which settings are you using and for which wheel?