A Manileño and A Bisaya Meet | Filipino | Rec•Create
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- Опубліковано 21 лют 2020
- We brought in a Manileño and a Bisaya to meet and talk about their supposed labels through different activities.
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Colin - / manilagear ; / colinaboy
Rick - / rickyamson
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Let's just put it this way:
Not all Manileños think like Colin and not all Bisaya think like Rick
Agree
I see d.o
yupp
yup
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I can see how level headed and sensible the long haired guy is. The kind that I would learn a lot from.
I couldnt agree for more. I like Colin ♥️
I’m bisaya, and I agree with you 😅
and the other guy reeks of insecurity 🤣
Manileños are level-headed people. Provincial people are the ones who are high-headed.
@@GaryHField Amazing.. And here I thought may nakuha mga tao mula sa vid. That's just another form of stereotype.
Im kinda annoyed by rick.
Im bisaya too but i remembered this one manilenya who asked us, she was part of pur seminar.. "may buildings ba sa Mindanao like malls? Or cagayan de oro? "May taxi ba in cagayan de oro or padyak lang din?" "May subdivisions ba kayo dun? we answered her questions thoughtfully but we were quite offended.
when that person told us "masarap yung kangkong i swear health food sya mga sis" my friend told her "yung kangkong meron din sis pero sa baboy namin pinapakain" and that manilenya stopped asking the offensive questions after that.
In fine point, id depends who you're speaking with. Not all those from manila are elitist, not all from the bisaya regions are dumb 😅
Because the Manilenyo was just being in good faith that he or she really didn't know or had any idea about Mindanao, that's why he asked.
PREACHHHHHHHHH 🙌
Hahaha the kangkong thing. I'm dying hahaha
Nagaral ako sa Manila for a year. And from Davao ako. Na feel ko nga din ung na out of place ako. Kasi bisaya ako hindi rin nmn ako nahirapan sa Tagalog kasi We speak tagalog at home and at school. Mas gamay ko pa tagalog kesa bisaya😅 pero iba din tlga pag alam nilang taga Mindanao ka. Hindi ako nakapag adjust agad I end up moving back to Davao.
Pero hindi ko nmn nilalahat na feeling entitled ung mga classmates ko. kasi Ung life partner ko from Bulacan and we are living in Antipolo. 😁 hindi lahat ng taga Luzon feeling entitled and hindi lahat ng bisaya same ni Rick mag isip😂
I don't think rick is being krontrabida on this video. I think he is just voicing out kung ano yung nararansan most of bisaya. But again not all. We don't know kung ano narasan nya before at bakit ganito hugot nya. Lets look on a bigger picture sabi nga nya.
I really appreciate Colin for being understanding tho.
Ang daming prejudices ni Rick and he likes to generalize. I like that the Colin guy said "in my opinion" twice and said "I can'tspeak for my kapwa Manileños". I hope the Rick guy took cues from that. You can see who has the higher EQ between the 2 towards the end.
Asal talaga ng mga bisaya yan dapat sila ang bida sa lahat
@@boypalanyag2325 generalizing again
@@boypalanyag2325 salamat sa pagiging example.
@@boypalanyag2325 imong mama bidabida. Bogo ka
@@boypalanyag2325 For example ng naggegeneralize
I just know they won't be friends in real life.
korek... >_
@@thatserrick7169 He's too good for you as a friend. Not because you are a Bisaya. You are full of hate. You need to educate yourself.
@@moneyhunter84 literally everything he said I can relate to, am i full of hate as well? and less educated?
@@rce6411 yup 100%. Were you born b4 MLaw and naexperience mo? If you did, naenjoy mo, just like what he said??? Tsssss.. isa ka ring gago!.
Agree
I think Rick was lowkey generalizing whole Luzon as Metro Manila
LMAO YAS QUEEN
😂😂😂
Blamed the media..Kasi yun yung paulit-ulit na headline nila.
yeah, may ilokano, pampagueno, etc.. imperial manila? in the end, mga mmyaman at pulitiko lng ang nagdedecide sa lahat. hindi ka pa nakapunta sa mahihirap na areas ng manila. ang kitid ng isip mo
@@boypalanyag2325 LOL lahat ng comment mo dito ay "Bobong Bisaya Blah blah", "I hate Visaya dapat sa kanila pinasasabog"..
oohh Scary Nakakatakot🤣🤣
I’m Bisaya - born and raised in Leyte. When I was 21, I moved to Luzon for work (I’m 29 now). During my first few months here, I had a hard time speaking the language because Tagalog was rarely used in normal convos back home. Though we were taught Tagalog formally in school from elementary up to college, we never used the language in informal settings because of the notion that speaking Tagalog is like being “pa-sosyal” and that the language is very “pang-mayaman”. This notion is actually very common in rural or far-flung areas. Hence, when I moved here, speaking Tagalog proved extremely difficult. My workmates understood the predicament so they allowed me to speak in English because they thought I was better in English than Tagalog when I really wasn’t, lol.
Anyway, based on experience with living and working in both Tagalog and Bisaya regions, I think that Tagalog people are very open about their thoughts and feelings (they usually speak out when in a group); while Bisaya people are extremely polite (rarely expressed thoughts because for the fear of being judged or rejected). I think I noticed this difference when we conducted trainings with two batches of participants, the first batch came from Luzon, the second batch from Visayas and Mindanao. Luzon trainees were very open about their thoughts and ideas but rarely worked in teams or in groups (lack of unity), and the competition between each trainee was very prominent; meanwhile, our Bisaya trainees were too polite, to the point wherein they rarely talked about their feelings and thoughts and just wanted to go along with everything even though they didn’t agree to it (passive) - though unity was very obvious among Bisaya trainees.
In conclusion (charot, haha) I just want to say that I think we need to be open and understanding about where people are coming from because we live in different realities - and most importantly, being Tagalog or Bisaya doesn’t really dictate a person’s characteristic. Bow.
Why is he projecting his insecurities to Manileños, though?
We don't protest against the president kasi Bisaya sya, we protest kasi hindi namin gusto ginagawa nya.
Leftist ka kasi, mahilig ka sa rally. Defund UP schools!
@@gearzone2611 Kapag ba nag rally leftist agad? basa basa rin ng batas uy. Napagiiwanan ka sa katangahan mo.
@@gearzone2611 Leftist ang ironic naman nyan
Grabe hindi pwede batikusin si duterte dahil bisaya sya? Wtf akala ko ba para sya sa bayan! Si noynoy aquino tinanggap lahat ng batikos kahit taga luzon sya at mga taga luzon ang kritiko nya!
@@gearzone2611 utak bisaya bobo!!!
Di ko matapos yung episode, di ko matake talaga si Rick, sorry, Colin is more open, trying to understand, Rick is just on the attack, like one note, aggressive and privileged yung tone and expressions.
Di ba? Rick was too in the offensive. Colin was trying to level the playing field but Rick just keeps on being fired up that he looked like he was scolding Colin. Hahaha!
@@hyuuganeji12 Yes! Don't get me wrong, I can keep an open mind, but Rick was just there, ranting, kept using the word hate, made generalizations about people from "Maniluhh" and Tagalogs, that we hate the president because he's Bisaya, and poor Colin is trying his best to get away from the topic of hate and politics, but no, Rick was making sure he wins in a debate when in reality, it's not even one. Like wtf Rick? get a clue and stop rubbing this privileged lifestyle on Colin.
@@ravennoels9571 Makes me think he's from a noveau rich family from Bukidnon who left home then failed to make it big here in Manila so now he's just sourgraping. Haha!
He was antagonizing all throughout the video and he doesn't seem to hear Colin. It's sad. Colin could've gotten a better partner. Rick was trying to win a debate while Colin was trying to reach an understanding but failed.
Rick sounded so defensive and attacked. I mean come on, dude relax!
Raven Noels same here i also disliked the video coz rick is kinda racist
As a Manileña who moved to Mindanao, I've also witnessed Rick's attitude and tone from a friend, I guess, because they feel attacked by the system? Rick's tone/aggression sounds like it's coming from being defensive. He has experiences from the past that made him react this way and that's understandable, but he sounds victimized that Colin is almost being pushed to being the perpetrator for Rick, which obviously, he's not. This conversation could have been approached with much more openness from Rick, I feel.
Edit:I was also on the receiving end of such attitude. Every time I talked to that friend, he almost always made the conversation into a debate. It was always appropriate to insert that Bea Alonzo meme, "Pero ba''t parang kasalanan ko?"
Anong bea alonzo meme yun?
@@marktabiolo534 "Pero ba''t parang kasalanan ko?"
Mark Tabiolo 4 sister and a wedding movie
Yun accent po talaga namin parang nag debate at parang galit nag sasalita di po kami katulad ng accent ng Tagalog na mahinhin at medyo sweet. Ganyan lang talaga ang boses namin.
You said what I have in mind, thanks.
Rick is a friend from way back- that I dont like at all HAHAHA
Edits: konting humility naman, Rick. Nakakahiya.
☕
You're making me a Marites. Haha :D
I grew up in an Ilonggo family, raised in Manila (Makati, specifically). When I lived there, a few Tagalogs looked down at me especially when they found out I'm from Visayas. A classmate once said "bat ganyan itsura mo para kang taga probinsya?" And it was in a Catholic school. But nevertheless, the best people I met are still Tagalogs. When we moved to Mindanao later, I found out that Bisaya speaking people are also lowkey hostile to us from Luzon (I was seen as a Tagalog there). I understood Bisaya easily because it's related to Ilonggo, then some thought I just pretended that I don't speak Bisaya. Some would also automatically judge me as the judgmental one just because I am from Luzon and would make me feel inferior. I also noticed that they were eager to learn foreign languages and would make excuses in using Filipino. Sigh. Those were the days. In this video, I am kind of annoyed with the Bisaya guy because he's kinda pa-victim and you can feel his defenses up just because he's talking to a Tagalog.
if he thinks duterte being bisaya is primarily why people hate him, where has he been the last three years...........
Haha. He can be a comedian for sure
He thought being bisaya makes Tagalog hate him. Um no?! Ang babaw naman pag ganon yung reason natin diba? Ni minsan di ko naisip at never pumasok sa isip ko na i-hate yung president dahil bisaya sya.
ask yourselves why youre sooo ready to accept any rumor directed towards the president.
if he was any president youre used to, you wouldnt feel as strongly.
now, you wouldnt even believe the people (Davaoenos) he has served for the last 20 or so years. (3 years? youre obviously late to the party)
I am one of them. I grew up looking up at him. Im definitely not brainwashed because I see his faults, but he is still a good leader. Far from any dictator, he never flaunted his name. He was never "showbiz". He is the outdated baby boomer uncle who doesnt know his curse limit or definition of political correctness, but you do know he means well. His results speak for him. He became the city's strongest silent anchor.
He had his own regional program. He'd throw casual curses and jokes youve only heard now. But we never took it as a personal attack.
I admit it's too much for national tv. He had to tone it down. However, his bisaya characteristics were easy targets of hate.
His strong demeanor and language threw you off and now youre ready to believe any fitting rumor that suits your belief.
you find it ridiculous, but it's true. he's not what youre used to, and a big part of that is him being bisaya - the very stereotype of it.
I have a long comment above but if it's too TLDR for you... here's a summary:
"3 years? where have you been in the last 22 years?"
anong nagawa mo para sa ikauunlad ng bayan bro?
Rick is in a argument position while Colin is trying to understand.
As a bisaya, we eagerly want to justify our rights interms of our ethnicity.
@@hokwetzoalmeda836: And that's totally fine. This was the perfect time, perfect place and perfect forum to do it but I guess Rick was too emotional that it came out that he was attacking Colin when the latter was trying to understand him.
argument position because we are sick of social segregation! We want equality and to justify our rights as filipino. Hindi dahil bisaya lang KAMI.
LEGIT BRO
@@hyuuganeji12Maybe because he waited this moment for a long time, I know that he wanted to emit the hatred from Luzon(generalized because its the truth) that they are always looking down on us and that should be stop but they are inevitable so we needed this as a Bisayan.
Si Rick parang nag vi-vent out sa frustrations nya about the "stigma", yet he is right about the accent thing that if we speak tagalog we are being judged by our accents and/or we sounded "funny" for them. As for Colin, i salute him for being very understandable and reading between the lines. Thanks Recreate for this convo. 🙂
Tagalog has dialeacts also, i.e. Batangas Quezon etc. Rather than judge people by accent, most of the Tagalogs usually ask saan ang province when they hear/ notice accent from people, kase nga may iba’t ibang accent din ang ang Tagalog. Minsan out of curiosity lang din - a way to know din if kababayan nila yung tao. I usually ask “cute ng punto mo, ano province mo?” Then “uy same pala tayo tagadun din parents ko”.
Daming hate comments about Rick.
1.) Yes, Rick here doesn't represent the entire bisaya community and if ALL OF THE BASHERS in the comment section PAID ATTENTION, inuulit-ulit niyang sinabi na "not representing the entire bisaya"
2.) I believe when Rick said, "we enjoy martial law" he didn't miss to say the line "we feel safer" which is the point of martial law in Mindanao
3.) I could relate to Rick and how he's struggling to survive communicating and exceling in Manila. To the point na kailangan kang pagtawanan sa accent mo and feel ng iba na just because bisaya doesn't mean di ka marunong mag tagalog nor pronounce/say the correct english word/sentence.
Again, this is PERSPECTIVE. I have friends in Manila who are really open minded and doesn't care kung saan and anong lahi mo. The issue why we have "imperial manila" and "bisaya being inferior" is because we think it as is, and we don't want to erradicate it from our minds.
PERIODT
Based on the HATES AND BASHES comments you're referring to. I think they are not referring to Rick being Bisaya. What their point is, kung paano umatake si Rick. Dahil para siyang nasa isang debate na kailangan ipanalo.. The way he speak his opinion and his gestures kala mo may kaaway. You can clearly see on the vid na ang kalmado lang ng awra ni Collin compare to Rick na ang bigat.
I have Bisaya friends. My bestfriend is from Mindanao, but we talked about the same issue. Pinagkaiba lang, pinagusapan namin yun ng masinsinan at kalmado, hindi yung argumento just like what Rick did. 😏
@@gellootcruz6910 somehow you are right. But we didn't knew where rick's coming from. What I have noticed about Colin, is he knew how to play with his argument very well like he's not even answering the questions directly instead he twisted every statement of rick's to trigger him (rick) out to appear being "privileged". He seems like cornering rick to make him fall out from his statements without him telling his sides to properly address what rick's trying to point out. So, you might as well consider rick side, because undeniably there are really "some" manileño think that way (that bisaya are like this and that). And you may not knew that rick might be a victim of "racism" (I don't know the right word) and felt bad about maneliño prior to his appearance. I mean, let's just weight things that both of them said points which are true. So it would be better to just respect their exchanged of ideas. Besides they never represented the majority of us.
If a Manileno would say that they don't discriminate bisaya and the others, well NO most manilenos ALWAYS stereotype them.. They would mock their accent and they would mock their pronunciation.. For example the trending video of a bisaya man singing an aegis song and then ALL OF THE STUDENTS I KNOW would mock and copy him because they think its funny.. Plus it is true that the long haired guy is silently provoking the bisaya.. Amd how YOU guys say that he is the bigger person.. Well that is a common mind set of most manilenos, they would know the bigger person BASED on how they react om each other.. People are not even focusing on their content... He is a brave person... #LetUsHearUrVoicesVisayas&Mindanao
@@jadconsorte9762 strongly agree with you bruh. They just verdicted according to how colin act (more likely composed) but intelligent wise , it should have been rick for me who laid his argument very well and concized. That colin should not acted like an interviewer because it didn't served his purpose why he's there.
Maybe it's your fault for feeling inferior. Try eradicating the sense of inferiority, even if it is happening, and live your life to the fullest and with little regard to destructive criticisms of other; you don't life for them hence you need not to please them.
"I would very much like to be excluded from this narrative."
-Me, someone who lives in Mindanao
Swifty spotted
Samedt
Ako din, from Malaybalay City
same
Omg. A fellow Swiftie
I'm Bisaya who also grew up in Quezon City and BITCH we don't hate Du30 because he's Bisaya. It's for multitudes of other reasons...
True.
Yass Louder!
Pag sure bha
Melo huh? The pasig river rehab project nagstart pa panahon ni pnoy. Ska gusto nga ipatigil yan ni duterte kasi nga daw useless na at hindi na maliligtas ang pasig diba? Luh and really? Idradrag mo yung pagkabisaya niya jan? 🤭
@Love ingon siya ni dako siyas Quezon city so ayg pag expect nga kabalo jud siya magbisaya
Akala ko I will hear 2 open-minded filipinos that will come to a conclusion that they are not different but they are actually one in spirit and heart, but ang nakita ko is a one-sided anger towards the other. I hope for a better representation of the two to reach a common-ground in such kind of conversation :))
never akong nakarinig ng tagalog let alone taga-Luzon na nagsabing kaya ayaw si Duterte ay dahil Bisaya siya. Ikaw lang nag-iisip niyan Rick.
Ang antagonizing ni Rick. Parang ang dating is nabigyan siya ng opportunity to express his "anger" and he just dived right into it. I commend Colin for being level headed. That or he just didn''t care what Rick thinks. Haha!
Insecure
@@crisreyes8230 Uhhh... What?
Mga giatay
Pistingyawakangagiataykanganadimunyuka.
Ha unsa daw?
This is the most pretentious thing I ever seen - a shame from someone claiming to be "from malaybalay." Don't generalize sweetie. You're giving bukidnon people a bad name.
Jamie Gellor Agree. I'm also from Bukidnon and I couldn't even finish this video. I'm cringing from the misrepresentation and ignorance.
To everyone who found this video on Tiktok and everyone new to the channel. Please watch the video in its entirety. This is not a debate video. These are two people who talk about their differences and come to a better understanding about each other and their cultures. If after watching you still feel that your ethnicity is better than the other, we suggest you rewatch from 15:40 - 16:38 and listen to what they took away from this experience.
Don't just take each segment on its own, rather we suggest digest the video as a whole. Enjoy! ✌
Woah thank you for this. I was so confused when I saw this on TikTok. I wanted to hear something from the latter cos the clip that I saw was clearly biased
Legit nag aaway sa comment section dun sa tiktok dahil dun sa nag post eh . putol kasi ung post nya dinya pinopost ung last part na yan.
Pinanood ko buo pre, racist talaga rick pre. Kunin niyo ulit yan pampadami views. Angas content niyo parang jubilee ng pinas. 💯
Sus daghay Naga comment na dili bisaya unya sig ingon ingon na mali daw ricky
Wala paman gani siguro mo tamak ug mindanao o wala mo ka puyo dirig dugay
@Kenn Bryan Lipura Unya Buhaton nako
I suggest a Bisaya Manileño (preferably someone who grew up in Vis/Min and moved to MM for school/work) and a Bisaya who has never lived in MM for a long time. It would be interesting and would help quash some of the misconceptions and stereotypes on Bisaya people.
Keanu Bonocan I agree, or maybe a manileño with vis/min roots and experience.
It's hard to react on this video, I don't want to generalised the entire Tagalog people. Pero, most of the people who lives in Manila are from the province. My father is from Cebu and my mom is from La Union(Ilocana). Growing up here in Manila, I find it na most of the people here are racist if they found out that you have an accent on speaking Manileño Standard Tagalog accent. And because of this, I am gonna be honest, pag tinatanung ako ng mga kaibigan ko or kaklase ko, ang sinasabi ko ay Tagalog ang mama at papa ko. Pero, as soon as I grow older and nagbabakasyon sa province ng parents ko, lumalawak na ang pananaw ko, hindi ko na tinago ang pinaggalingan ng family ko. Nagiging proud ako sa origin ng parents ko, I started learning their native tongue. And the more I interact with people residing in Manila, I learn that most of the people here are a by product of the past, meaning hindi rin sila local dito and their parents and great grandparents. I guess, it is something to do with the media kung bakit nagkaroon ng mababang tingin sa mga non Tagalog speakers, hanggang sa naipasa na itong concept na itong mababang pangtingin. Sana in the future, maayos ang lahat, at wala ng issues about this. Agymanak at Daghang Salamat sa lahat po
@@juancarlosinakiechague2970 Same tayo, my father is Bisaya(Aklanon) and my mother is Ilocana, pero i grew up here in Metro Manila, the exciting part kapag nagtatanungan ng province is kung gaano kalayo ung province mo(Un ung experience ko nung highschool&college) tama ka din, and hindi ko din ipagtatanggol mga tiga dito satin dahil marami parin tlaga na ignorante, karamihan dun magulang pa nila mismo is taga dun sa lugar na binabastos nila(May kakilala ako na ganun, tatay niya is from Panay pero ignorante pagdating sa labas ng Maynila) sana nga mawala na ung ganyan na pagiisip.
@@ult7511 sana nga ma educate na mga tao dito sa Manila, na kaya ganun ang accent ng mga province kasi iba ang language nila. Hirap din kasi, natatandaan ko yung father ko may strong Cebuano accent pag nag pronounce ng Tagalog words kahit matagal na siya dito, ginagaya ng mga kaklase ko ako naman tahimik lang at nahihiya sa pinanggalingan ko, wag nyo sana ako ih judge pero ramdam ko peer pressure noon, at lastly, mama ko at Ilocana. May accent din siya pag nag Tagalog, madalas ang " kwan " na expression niya. Nahihiya ako noon, pero ngayon, nag bago na lahat. I am proud of my origin. I hope many people in Manila will be educate about this racism among our fellow countrymen. Unti unti.
@@boypalanyag2325 I don't argue to a typical Filipino promoting and spreading crabmentality and negativity, because it is detrimental to our mental health. Show your facts, not rumors. By the way, we are amalgam of the past. 😉😉🇵🇭
My gosh, I'm bisaya and felt safe under martial law but I wouldn't be blinded by the fact that abuse of military power happens in OTHER areas that's why I'm against it.
Also, di ko tinapos yung video hahaha 1st 20 seconds lang ata after he mentioned ML kasi i know it's cringey as a bisaya
Abuse by military power? In other areas? pwede mo ba isa isahin mga binibintang mo?
AD Pz please educate yourself with the Lumads in mindanao so you won't sound ignorant
I agreed. I really don't know where did he got those ideas, I mean we don't like ML because countrymen shouldn't experience it. It's a mental, physical, and economical torture. But I finished the videos though. Hehehe
I have no idea what's going on so please carry on and explain it to me?
Rick has so much internalized stereotyping about himself being a "Bisaya."
He obviously needs to attend an educational discussion about protest and activism. You're giving the Bisaya people a bad rap.
Rec•create, you could've done a better casting for this video. The exchanges here totally missed the mark.
Joshua Surquia true
give him MK please thanks
What he said ^ 🙄
Agreed. Thanks for sharing
Couldn't agree more. I saw a post that says that Rick is only being true to himself - I never knew faking an accent is being true to one's self.
Tried to finish the video without going through the comment section. I was relieved to see how other people outside NCR reacted on this video. I thought it was just me but Rick looks like he came to fight meanwhile, Collin on the other hand was so understanding.
Kami nga dito sa Palawan oftenly mistaken as a part of Visayas wherein fact we're from Luzon originally. 😂
Palawan is part of the Sulu archipelago so it's right partly of Mindanao.
@@___Anakin.Skywalker mali po kayo ang Palawan ay bahagi po ng Region 4B o ang tinatawag po natin na Timog Kanlurang KATAGALUGAN (Southwestern Tagalog). Kilala rin ito sa portmanteau na MIMAROPA
MI - MIndoro
MA - MArinduque
RO - ROmblon
PA - PAlawan
Timog Kanlurang Katagalugan
Itinuturo po iyan sa paaralan baka po tulog kayo o mapurol lang ang kukote, palagay ko yung mapurol
@@gabrielamalaya5947 😂😂😂
@@___Anakin.Skywalker jusko tanan na lang angkunon
@@___Anakin.Skywalker anakin where u at😭
I love how chill Colin was. Meanwhile, Rick sounded like a kontrabida. Kase naman, people from Maniluh... Char!
Abbie Lawas i know right. I looked like a villain sa still palang 😆😆😆 probably the tequila was kicking in haha
I wish they could've chosen a better representative for us bisayas. This guy is a big yikes. Galing ni Colin chill lang siya the whole time hahhaa
Hi Alyssa! May tanong ako: do Bisaya people really think negatively of us Tagalogs? Genuinely asking.
@@memaguy1796 some oo some nope so technically some tagalogs are looking down at bisayas right well infact not all tagalog are soo depende parin sa perspective ng tao
I agree. Nakaka hiya sya. But thats my opinion
@@memaguy1796 I think it depends on the kind of people you're surrounded by and exposed to. I personally have not had negative experiences with tagalogs just for the sole reason that im bisaya. But i also have some bisaya friends who have been treated badly just because bisaya sila - especially fresh out of high school and they went to college in manila. They were asked questions like "May wifi ba sa inyo? Do you ride carabao to school? Your parents arent farmers pala?" Some were kidding, some were actually serious. Hahaha. And i think it's that divide that only makes us drift apart further. I think this video proves though that you cannot generalize talaga a group of people. The actions of one person doesn't determine the rest of the group. Glad you asked!
@@meiji1815 I agree! Some tagalogs do think very highly of themselves and treat bisayas as just "house help." But hindi naman lahat. Tama yung sinabi mo na perspective. Hindi naman tayo lahat same ng experience sa lahat ng bagay o tao.
You can really see how detached and privileged that guy Rick is
Why do I find this interview hypocritical? This bisaya guy is fighting against people from Manila who are discriminating the visayan people. But if you listen very carefully, it is him who has more hatred and discrimination in his words. He always puts manilenyos down while bringing himself up. While the guy from Manila is always apologetic. People are smarter now. Playing the victim doesn't always get people's sympathy. And the stereotype that Manilenyos look down on visayan people doesn't apply to the majority anymore because most people from Manila already think of visayans as fellow manilenyos. That Rick guy is very antagonistic and shallow minded. And I don't know if his fellow visayans agree with his ideology,
Why the negative comments? My God! I'm from Tondo, Manila but I understand where Rick is coming from. It's happening! I had a point in my life where I also stereotyped a person mainly because of his accent and where he came from. But when I studied abroad I met a lot of people from Visayas and it changed on how I look at them. I understood where they were coming from. And at the end, Rick realized they are also streotyping Manilenos.
I see myself on Colin back then when I first meet my friends from Visayas. He is listening to his rants and trying to understand where he is coming from because he knows most of it were true. That's why he said "I feel for you. I'm sorry you had to go through these kinds of experiences".
Both of them now understood each other, learned from each other and then change for the better.
It's so privileged of Rick to assume that people from Mindanao feel safer lol. Why are the Lumads in UP Diliman, then? Also, this is the first time I've heard that people from Manila dislikes the president just because he's Bisaya, like wtf?!? Miriam is not from Manila yet people loved her??? Maybe something's wrong with your president, I guess?
Raymond Pastoral something is wrong about this guy named rick
Nothing is wrong with me enjoying the peace in my community. This peace that I’m enjoying has been fought for. Our city has a long history of civilization involving lumads during the prehispanic era. The peace im enjoying is a result of the long process my forefathers fighting and negotiating. And because of this peace, ive lived a sheltered life not knowing about polar realities in other areas. Mass communication is not as good as manila media too. So yes, i am privileged. Blessed with the privileges my forefathers fought for for our generation to enjoy. I just hope the same peace will be enjoyed in other communities.
Errick Aguilar absolute trash. as a cebuano with roots in davao, i feel you are exactly the type of person we bisayas would be ashamed of. bathing in your own ignorance and apathy, do you lie awake at night, wondering where you would be had you not been such an enormous idiot? educate yourself as to your privilege and why people resort to activism to speak up for those who can’t; you quite obviously aren’t even wealthy or affluent, and yet you purport yourself as if you are way above those who suffer under this fascist administration that perpetuates the systematic oppression you so proudly call your “privilege”.
@@MrMeeks09 get her, sis.
@@MrMeeks09 drag him sis, I'm also a bisaya and I despise this administration.
Lol the Bisaya person thought he did something. Oh wait he did. He made us all cringe -,-
For real and that's the saddest part lmfaoooo
Sorry i made you cringe. Meh.
@@thatserrick7169 Meh It's fine. I stopped watching right after the first scene anyway. Something about your pronunciation of Manila("Maniluhh") didn't sit well. I mean why do the privileged think that things are okay when it's okay only for them, am I right? It's not about them. It's about the masses. And the masses aren't privileged.
For real
Wait what ??
Rick: "why do you (manilenos) speak for us??"
Also Rick: "people in Mindanao enjoy Martial Law"
first thing i thought
was last December when a bombing occured AGAIN in Mindanao. I'm pretty sure nobody enjoyed that.
Also People in Mindanao: why the hell do you (Rick) speak for us?
@@gcpz1173 But then again. Why are people from Luzon against the Martial Law in Mindanao when majority of the people in Mindanao felt safe because of it?
@@cents159 you're from Mindanao???
@@cents159 taga mindanao kaba? Ako taga South Cotabato. At majority ng tao dito hnd takot sa martial law. At massafe pa kmi dahil sa martial law☺️☺️✌️
Di ko talaga maintindihan galit ng mga bisaya sa mga Manileños. Galit sila sa Manilenyos pero kung mag generalize sila lahat ng Tagalog nadadamay. So sad na ganun tingin nyo samin. Let us not forget that eveyone in Manila is not from Manila. Kahit san ka pumunta sa Maynila may Chinese, may mga bisaya, may mga Tagalog, may taga Norte etc at hindi porke Luzon Manila na agad. May Batanggas, may Cavite, Ilocos, Baguio, Pampanga, Tagaytay, Rizal et.al. They all speak their regional dialects.Sawa nakong sinasabihan akong mapagmataas, like ano ba dapat ipagmayabang ko? Eh Pilipino naman tayong lahat. Stop nyo na mga hate nyo kasi di tayo uunlad dyan. Mag-intindihan tayo. Kung ayaw magsalita ng Tagalog then speak English, nothing's wrong with that.
Hate na hate kasi sila ng mga taga luzon kasi mga bisaya ang asal nyang mga yan!
Bka ksi akala nila lahat ng mga tga luzon katulad nung mga spoiled brat n mga conyo n bumibisita s mga probinsya
He’s the only Bisaya I know with a valley girl accent
Maybe his not st*****t
Allen Reyes you clearly haven’t met burgis Cebuanos haha
have you not seen the Davao Conyo twitter account?
@@simpidea Irrelevant
Allen Reyes and what if he has that accent? Its actually really nice to hear! You’re just bitter! 😛
"so why the hell do you have to speak for us?"
Ironic that you were able to generalize in behalf of all the mindanaons thinking all of us are in favor of martial law and/or the administration. this is coming from a fellow mindanaoan like you.
Im from iligan which is the next town from where the battle was. And I would say that we were so thankful that martial law was implemented. We felt safe.
@@fritzezekielong7207 im from CDO. Me and my siblings went to Pisay sa Balo-i sa Lanao del Norte (closer to Marawi). So we are familiar with the area. Theres more to the military presence during the Marawi Siege. Matagal na yung Marawi Siege. The greatly inflicted by the military rn are the lumads. Schools are being destroyed and lumad leaders are being killed because of military presence sa areas nila. We need to look outside ourselves and think again. Just coz we are safe, does not mean others are.
He represents MAJORITY just to clarify.
@@valbonite5389 So can you propose any solution for the government to stop terrorist attacks?
@@valbonite5389!💯💯
The stark difference!
Colin is obviously more open minded.
Rick, a self-proclaimed Bisaya, did not even speak a single Bisaya word. Pretencious to some extent, fitting into the mold, yet whining abou the stereotype.
I am a Bisaya, and personally, while there is a truth in the way that we are being stereotyped, I really don't give a fuck because I am confident and I think of myself and everyone as equal. The only reason why somebody would be affected by the stereotypes that much is because they accept those stereotypes as true. That's why they feel attacked/offended all the time. Of course, it's a different story when somebody really intends to insult you, but this could come from anyone, not just people from Manila. I am proud to be Bisaya but when I try to connect with other people, I don't bring that with me. We're both humans who can understand and relate to each other. That's all that matters to me.
I don't really understand how most bisaya have this inferiority complex. Wala ra jud ko kasabot nganung ma-feel man nila na mas inferior sila compared to other tribes. Murag gina embrace ra pud nila na mas baba sila compared to the others despite most tagalog or other tribes respect us and only the minority has this "superior feeling" against us.
Cebuano Bisayas have this kind of mentality na I Don't Give A Fork!! , ganyan na ganyan kami sa Cebu. LOL!
people aren't against duterte bc of him being bisaya, has nothing to do with it smh
yeah indeed.
Preach brother 🙌
Maybe not u but some are. same in mindanao
youre thinking at a veeery surface level. think again.
You think? Dig deeper.
sorry, the protest and probably the hate wasn’t about the pres as a bisaya but his actions towards our country and countrymen. im a bisaya and kinda annoyed how he represented bisaya tho 🥴
The feeling is mutual 🤣🤣
I’m upset he “represents” us here too when I really don’t share his convictions.. massive lack of critical thinking but maybe that represents a big portion of people too so..
like he said, it is his own OPINION. chill! i am a bisaya too and i respect his opinions.
Niño Vasquez I agree and I would like to respect his opinions. I’m just upset that he had an opportunity to help shed some light on us bisayas and I’m afraid he just proved our worst stereotypes. We’re so much more than just underlings of an imperial manila.
Melo ako imong gipangutana?
I think both parties made me learn something today. I am from Antipolo and I haven't met neither from manila or a bisaya. I still learn that both parties represent their own thoughts without generalizing their own people. They both made a great point and I don't understand why everyone hated Rick when both he and Colin had the smartest conversation from all the meet up.
Ryuzaki Yuki thank you so much for being so level headed and considering that we were speaking based on our own experiences.
Rick is that guy you don't wanna talk to for too long.
Colin is someone you'd want to talk to when you need a friend who understands. ❤
I'm a proud Bisaya, but not all Bisaya people likes our president. There's really some parts that I hate about the Duterte administration.
Helen Ibona yeahh me too, people with this hasty generalizations probably haven’t learn something in education.
Totally agree.
there's no perfect government just to polish..
Same same
Korek ka tih! Dili tanan DDS
Rick is like one of my classmates 😂 I swear di mawawala yung ganitong type ng tao sa isang classroom
Realtalk Isa akong seaman kaya madami akong nakakasalamuha mapa tagalog, cebuano, ilocano, bicolano, illonggo, pero alam nyo ba kung sino sa kanila ang pinaka ma pride at pinaka tikalon? Yan yung nasa cebu at iloilo, gusto nila palagi sila yung bida kaya yung mga tagalog dun sa barko nakikisabay lng hindi ko nilalahat ang bisaya ha pero yun yung napansin ko sa ilan years ko na pagbabarko, at normally yung pasimuno ng kaguluhan dun sa barko nmin ay mga cebuano kasi ayaw nilang nalalapawan sila ng mga taga luzon, btw I'm from masbate at yung salita nmin ay merong bisaya, bicolano, at mayhalong tagalog din kaya neutral kmi pagdating sa ganyang mga usapan at wala kming kinakampihan
That bisaya guy low-key sounded racist ngl.
Which part?
he just seems insecure abt everything
@@missbulma3695 seems so hateful to manileños lmao
Uwu 😢
Totally, that Rick guy sounds like someone filled with hate for Manileños
This is interesting. Just wanna commend Colin for being chill
Manilenyo sya kase
"to not sound konyo, i have to translate bisaya to english to tagalog"
konyo level over 9000
Because some of us bisaya speak better english than tagalog. Or can express better in english than taglog so we translate our bisaya thoughts in english and then translate it to tagalog.
Siguro nakasanayan kasi namin na yung Filipino Subjects namin are handled by English Majors (may scarciry ng filipino major teachers) and mas maraming subjects are taught in english. Yung mga teacher namin sa Filipino sila din ang teacher namin minsan sa english kaya during lectures, para maintindihan namin ng maayos may translation from english to filipino like ako dati nahihirapan tandaan ng translation ng verb sa tagalog (pandiwa) 😅.
Hindi din kasi namin mother tongue ang tagalog kaya ganun. Ma english kami tumalak minsan.
I just recently discovered na merong ganitong bagay about the bisayas feeling inferior towards the people from manila. I never really had that concept in mind and I just made aware that it’s a thing until I heard it from people like Erik. Whenever I meet people in general, I never really thought of where they come from but rather if we will jive or not. I never belittle someone just because they come from other parts of the Philippines. When I realize naman that they are, I’m even excited pa nga to get to know them because I could know something interesting from their place eh.
In hindsight, this video also reminds of the time when I strated travelling at the southern region of the Philippines. I feel like naman na some bisaya, during some of those travels, are not accomodating when they realized na we are tagalog kasi they think we are entitled of something.
you go to cebu. Cebuanos would literally snub people from luzon especially from manila!lol cebuanos do not feel inferior to manila peeps . but are proud bisdaks!
Here in davao, one of our classmates was tagalog we all just spoke tagalog to her and explained stuff she didnt understand. even the teachers spoke tagalog just in our class. idk about cebu but in davao its pretty chill
@@runtomelonely6346 why naman? anung meron sa mga taga luzon why would you snub them?
how about sa foreigners, do you treat them the same way?
@@karlusarn good to know
@@runtomelonely6346 It's because we are expected to speak Tagalog everytime a Tagalog speaker goes to a non-Tagalog place. Ano ka entitled?!
It is a golden rule na kapag ikaw ang dayo, ikaw ang mag-aadjust hindi yung environment para sayo.
Hi guys! For our new viewers, a few things about our videos and casting process:
1) This format is made so that it's the participant's own views and beliefs are tackled. We don't insert our own narratives; we just let the two people talk.
2) In terms of casting, we just ask general questions in our forms. If we get too specific, their answers will influence our decisions and our personal biases may show.
3) The presence of the word "A" means that it is a singular person who falls under that specific signifier (A Manileño, A Bisaya, A Catholic, etc.). It doesn't mean they represent everyone else who identifies as such. It's just one person's opinion.
4) It's impossible to have a person represent every single one of us. We're all different people with different experiences and different opinions. While some of the participants' views may not resonate with you, they may resonate with some other people. All this video asks you to do is listen, just as the people in the video try to do with each other. :)
So basically whatever happens on set, just happens. We don't manipulate this show (and all of our other shows) to fit a certain narrative. We simply show you what happens.
,,,,Chile anyways
It would really be great if you can invite another Bisaya who has good experience with Manileños.
This was a miss. Rick just even made every stereotype about us worse. This could have been a very big opportunity to enlighten people how bisaya people is just like everybody.
@@bryancasio4770 and how he should be proud that he knows a dialect/language aside from Tagalog and English, instead of focusing on how people would notice the accent.
@@oliviaheart5844 we don't manufacture our results (as most other shows do). if we are to do another one, we wouldn't be able to tell who the people really are until the day of the shoot.
I think the prejudice goes both ways. I'm Tagalog, but I admire Bisayas cos most of them are trilingual from a young age (while I have yet to learn Bisaya), they enjoy better cultural and environmental diversity, they are confident and "palaban" - probably cos they feel they need to try harder to get recognized? I respect that.
But don't think all of us Tagalogs think you are a second-class citizen. Personally speaking, I didn't even think that there was an "issue" about which area of the Philippines you came from and what your native language is, until I read comments on social media about "Tagalogs vs Bisayas."
Prejudice leads to further division as a nation. Like Colin said, "we are just people. We all want the same thing." 🙂✌
aydapadi MAMI LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IM THE BACKKK
I love this video. I somehow understand both sides. Colin sounds like my friend from a university in Manila, while Rick is a proud bisaya/mindanaoan. This is not just about difference in opinions on certain topics, but also in their culture. People here calling Rick privileged, but I think he just meditated differently before the show.
I see that most people here in the YT comments sections hate Rick. I agree with Rick as a Waray businessman in his 40's, I have met a lot of people from Luzon who has prejudice against us Bisaya people. The Tagalogs are know-it-all and they think that we should listen to them and not them listening to us. They think Manila represent the entire Philippines, or think that every Filipinos act like they're in Manila. Another thing is that the term "province" or "probinsya" is actually an insult to us people living outside of Manila. Think of how those sinophobic protesters shouting "Probinsya na ang Pilipinas sa China," wouldn't that be an insult?
The Tagalogs have done a lot of damages in my hometown of Tacloban. Many teachers from Manila who come here to work and teach do not extend an effort to learn Bisaya. In fact, a teacher got kicked out from my son's school for beating up a student because the student didn't speak Tagalog in the class, even though it was Science time and not Filipino. Still, it's not acceptable to abuse a student for any reason.
To be honest, many Visayans are banking on Duterte. That is because Visayas and Mindanao have been left alone for so many decades. Neither of the two states didn't get major infrastructure projects. It is evident because only Luzon has railway systems despite Visayas and Mindanao providing 70% of economic and agricultural activity within the country.
Also, I think Collin should get off his high horse and should speak more freely. The way he looks and speaks to Rick, it may look like that Collin is looking down on Rick.
"Beating up a student" shet iba na yun ah.
70+% of our country's GDP is from LUZON..
we are all Filipinos, we are one..Stop it.
@@porkabobo2024 You forgot that most companies and manufacturers built their factories in VISAYAS and MINDANAO. What Luzon has is just ghost GDP because most companies and manufacturers in the Philippines has their factories built in VisMin andthey report taxes in their main offices in Makati. Imagine what would happen if Visayas and Mindanao will secede against the Tagalog imperialist Luzon? You would have zero manufacturing capability there, your productivity will collapse overnight and you would have nothing to produce. Whatever currency value Luzon will have will collapse and inflation will be comparable to Venezuela. The PSEi will collapse because Visayas and Mindanao has all the factories for products that the Philippines export. If the main offices in companies don't report their taxes in Luzon, then Luzon's true GDP is only 20%. Real Estate companies also report taxes in their main offices in Manila even though most of their projects are built in Visayas and Mindanao.
Can I just say, Colin is very respectful and nice!! I am Bisaya and I'm grateful that Rick represented us in here. Let's just stop the discrimination, the comparison, no one is inferior or superior, we're all Filipinos, with accent or not, with another dialect or without. It's just the province/ethnicity that's different, we're all from the same country. Magkababayan pa rin tayo ^^
I agree with this sentiment.
Except the rick part pero I agree why divide us kung in the end lahat tayo filipino sana maalis natin yan mentality hindi kasi nakakaunlad sa bansa natin
I agree
The infamous accent stereotyping, kahit ibang tagalog dialect ng kalapit probinsya napagtatawanan din sa Metro Manila.
"I really do wanna talk about politics but I hate how a lot of Tagalogs or people from Manila do not put their trust on our president....
because he's bisaya"
Seriously?
Sobrang irrelevant db?
Luis Blanco oomf he dum dum
Luis Blanco ooff irrelevant
Medyo tanga sya dun HAHAHABA
He's entitled to his own opinion but I really don't see why someone would hate the president because he's Bisaya. Just wanna clear things up. please don't hate me, him or anyone.
I know Rick kase schoolmate ko siya since highschool and in college same department kami (BS Nursing). 2 years agwat namin, una ako sa kanya. Kasama ko 'to sa mga extra curricular activities like cheerdance, etc. at sa pagiging student government.
Base sa video na napanuod ko, may iba-iba tayong pananaw. I understand naman kung ano ang pananaw ni Rick based on their topics. But for me, there were some parts na disagree ako sa sinabi niya (Rick), but I understand and respect.
Sa mga bashers naman, please try to understand naman. Sa mga nagsasabi na his "attacking",etc,etc. Pero sa mga di kilala kay Rick ganyan na talaga yan, the way he talks, the gestures. I don't know baka dahil sa pagiging part ng debate team sa amin. But his good and very friendly talaga..
Dito sa amin, hindi siya magiging Rick kung hindi sa kanyang galaw, palaban, angas, at ano pa. Pero mabait yan! iba -iba lang tayo ng pananaw sa una.
God bless.. ☺💕
Jeff Harvey Pitogo thank you so much Jeff!! Wala lang jud na sila kaila sa akoa. Haha
@@thatserrick7169 Mao man. haha!
Feelingero kasi kayong mga bisaakol pag hindi kayo ang bida galit kayo! E mga pastilan pala kayo e magsiuwian na lang kasi kayo wala naman kayong ambag sa luzon mga bisakol
@@boypalanyag2325 Hala uy! Akoy naulaw nimu ay. Walang ambag daw, pagsure diha kay mag biko ta.. Feelingero? Eh! mas feelingero ka naman. Feeling superior kasi taga luzon o manila kayo, eh english tagalog lang naman alam mo. Bakit? Di ba galit taga luzon kasi bisaya ang Presidente?.. Ngee! Lamlam uy..
@@jepjeppitogo1492 bro, you're just making things worse the way you reply. you just prove the things they're saying against Rick especially you're his friend. kung naa may ilabay sa imuha, unta labayan na lang pud nimog tinapay. both of you should grow up. parehas ra mog pang utok. kaulaw na parehas anang rick ang nag represent sa atuang tribo. yaks.
everyone was putting their hate on Rick, because he sounds something like this and that.. But let us understand that not everyone in manila is like Collin. You should understand that this video has both sides. This is funny actually, I can relate to them both.
kanin lab sama true. A lot of what rick has said was true in some cases. At some point, I kinda feel people in luzon would look down to us and see us a little under there level of living or lifestyle.
True.
i dont hate rick because of his sound. i hate whatever he's saying.
Kami lang ba talaga ang ganyan? Mas masahol pa nga kayong mga bisaya e mahilig kayo sa kompetensyang walang kapararakan gusto nyo pa kayo yung laging mukhang inaapi nood ka kmjs lagi kayong starring duon pag tungkol sa mga kababuyan at kahayupan at kahirapan!!!
dude, the way he act and talk is fucking humiliating and he represents the bisaya (as he is in this video). kaulaw ra uy yawa
why take in that Bisaya though. he doesnt even speak for all of us lololololololololololol dapat kumuha kayo ng Bisayang hindi blinded by their privilege. Dami niyang sinasabi di naman nagmemake sense.
Yess huntyy, LOUDERR!
Preach
Actually
LOUDER!!!!
Hatdog
I love how Colin handled this! He is really open to understand Reek. While Reek is always in a defensive position to answer the questions..kala mo jinujudge siya... di naman e.
I legit love this. I wish people spoke more about this more often.
Its my first time in this channel and i feel like it wont be the last.
Im a Bisaya Expat living in NZ and i am often laughed at by fellow pinoys for speaking bad tagalog despite having really good english....
I find it really hard to connect with them.
Love how you were all ears Colin.
I wish we could all just get along one day and not have any stigmas.. God bless ya'll
I never had insecurities being a bisaya while I was in Manila. I got an HR position in an international airline company based in Makati. Yes my friends often laughed on my accent when I speak Tagalog but "English-wise", I think I was way much better than them. Now, Im in North America. One of my co-workers fro Manila told me that we are so lucky because we can speak and understand both Tagalog and Bisaya languages. Filipinos here respect each other no matter where we came from.
So proud of Colin! He was my student before in UP! I appreciate that he was able to hold that conversation with a DDS! It will be difficult for me to do that and pull it off tho! Good job, Colin! 😊
Whats wrong in supporting duterte? Do dilawans really have to over react whenever u find out a person supports duterte? You are equivalent to a leftist.
So, what's wrong to be a Duterte supporter?
@@alvirfrancisco3691 Dilawan ba talaga agad pag di lang sumusoporta kay duterte?
@@chrystalhenripalispis4646 pwedeng mali ako. Pero that's usually the case. I've never met a duterte hater who is not a dilawan. U can prove me wrong by telling me u hate duterte and u are not dilawan. Lol.
reasons for hating du30 aren't even related to him being bisaya lmaooooo it's his actions !!
true..
Ano naman pakialam nya at hate nya si Duterte? why should I care about his opinion?
I'm from Luzon and I like his political will as a president, di tulad nung mga nakaraang admin...
@@xxxx2228 Same, ppl nowadays talaga may mga sariling bunganga na. Like for example before they're not that much hating on ninoy aquino and 80% of teenagers may sariling opinion na. I can't blame them
Sounds like you were born privilege rich.
@@xxxx2228 ay ganun po ba... ok po, bakit nga po ulit kayo nasa discussion na ito? kung wala naman po pala kayong pakialam at sariling opinion nyo lang pinakikinggan nyo 😅
It sounds like minamaliit niya yung sarili niya and other Bisaya like him instead of being proud that he is a Bisaya.
Ewan ko. Feeling ko lang, parang "they created their own monster." Wala naman issue sa ibang Pinoys na hindi Bisaya o Tagalog. Unless meron pala para sa iilan. Palagay ko norm na sa tao yung if you belong to a certain group, you have this urge to raise your own flag (to be proud), to depend, or to ask for a recognition, tulad ng sa city/municipality/province, school, religion/faith, gender, social sector, etc. If we keep on thinking na "lagi tayong api", sino ba ang magiging kawawa sa huli?
pls people wag natin gawing parang nasa fb tong comment section, learn from each other's opinions tayo. sa fb kasi puro ad hominem lol.
Thank you.
They should’ve chosen a better representative of the Bisaya people. I’m Bisaya and I do not like our president. I understand where he is coming from but man that was just a poor representation of our people.
pagbisaya daw og taga asa jud ka? hehe
Bisaya ka pero di guro ka taga mindanao doy. Ikaw nlng pag president bi kay ra man kag korek.
@@sheenacasama7796 Yes I’m not from Mindanao. I’m from Cebu. And there’s nothing wrong with my opinion. Attacking me directly with your canned responses is all what you have. A typical response from a DDS. What’s new? Go ahead and eat your Dolomite Sand in Manila Bay.
Rick represents the MAJORITY of Bisaya maong dli mag feeling nga mas daghan ang disapprove sa presidente. "MAJORITY" para klaro ta
@@HOAX_BENTOT So what’s your proof that majority of the Bisaya kay ganahan ni Dutae? Do you have the data to back it up? Unsa imong source?
I love how the comment section is so against kuya rick. Proves his point na you guys feel a sense of superiority.
This conversation alone just shows that Manileños have the moral high ground. You just get the sense of dominance.
AT HINDI PO NIREREPRESENT NG MANILA ANG MGA TAGALOG.
ANOTHER MISCONCEPTION.
True nakakasawa na i defend ang sarili namin. Sobrang magkaiba ang mindset ng mga taga Manila kumpara sa mga Tagalog sa lalawigan
True!!! Proud Bulakenya ire!! Literal na Tagalog/ taga ilog kami kc nakatira kami malapit sa ilog angat :) nakakalungkot na pag tagalog ang naiisip ng iba sa manila lang. Kung gusto niyong makilala mga tagalog talaga, pumarine kau sa bulacan, atsaka sa south luzon mga tagalog din sila. 👍
@@guillianamia at hindi naman "tagalog" ang MNL e. Natl language kasi kaya yun ang salita doon, capital city.
Pagkakaintindi ko po, tagalog e yung southern tagalog. Batangas, Cavite, etc.?
@@aeiouhenz5284 opo, tsaka kaming ibang probinsya sa central luzon: bulacan, nueva ecija, bataan, etc. (Except sa pampanga kc kapampangan sila) ung sa mga mas norte pa may iba ding tagalog pero karamihan sa kanila mga ilocano na :)
Proud batangueno
Im a Bisaya and and Ive known a few Manileños and I shit you not, they are the most humble, genuine people I know. It doesn't really matter where you came from, if you're a good person, then you're a good person wherever you go.
I dont agree. Some of them are really shitty
As a person na naka reside sa masbate kung saan merong nagsasalita ng bisaya, waray,hiligaynon, bicolano at tagalog, wala kming problima kung gumagamit mn ang isa sa amin ng bisaya na lenguahe or waray o bicolano pa yan, at kung sakaling hindi mn kmi magkakaintindihan ay dun plang kmi nag tatagalog pero ni minsan hindi nmin inisip na mas superior o inferior ang isa sa amin, in fact mas open kmi na pag aralan ang lenguahe ng bawat isa at dinadaan nlang sa tawa kung hindi mn magka intindihan.
I don't care if this channel is inspired by or copied Cut, Jubilee, or any similar YT channels. I am just happy that there is a Filipino version of those! :)
Idk but I can feel rick's hatred in this video lol.
Its just annoy me a bit how most bisaya ironically pronounce "bisaya" like how Manileños pronounce it whenever they speak in Filipino or English.
Bisaya here. Most bisaya pronounce the word as
"bi-sa-YAHHHHHHHH"
Make your end syllable hard. Bisaya accent.
I really think this is a very good conversation since based on their convo, Rick is the more talkative or expressive type while Colin was more of the 'good listener type'. I could totally relate to some of Rick's experiences like yung iba talaga pag may kasama ka or kausap mo yung kapwa Bisaya even tho u just met each other dahil you could see each other like a kadugo haha basing on my experience also studying in a city with people not Bisaya. Could relate to some opinions, sentiments and stuff as a Bisaya also, but hindi naman lahat ng kindof nag didiscriminate or nagdedegrade sa mga Bisaya ay tga Manila. Anyway, we should respect our differences and even similarities in culture and language since we are all Filipinos naman. We should love and appreciate each other. :)
I love how Collin remains calm during the entire the conversation.
KAIBIGAN KO YAN SI COLIN 🥺🥺 LETS GO BROOO, LAB U 🤘
Lab u too. Ay sorry kala ko ako
@@lifeless.sandwich harot! Hahahah XD
pasikat
@@kayde5386 obviously halatang bago ka lang sa channel na to hindi mo siya kilala eh
@@kayde5386 Maam/Sir nag support lang siya sa friend niya wala namang masama dun.
I as an ilonggo living in manila, i, never felt manilenos having superiority complex against non manilenos. Parang innate ata sa iilang bisaya yung inferiority complex, so dont blame them for your own racist thoughts.
I couldn't agree more. Ilonggo here.
Nami gd ya kita nga mga ilonggo. Chaar
Actually Manilenyos doesn't really give a shit abt regionalism or superiority complex whatsoever becauss most people from Manila are not really from Manila. It's actually very rare to see a native Manilenyo without a home province these days. I lived in QC for 18 years and never met a person that was originally from QC.
Chill Lang Ang buhay. 😂
Salamat po.. Pure tagalog here. Marikeño tatay ko pasigeña nanay ko.. Wala kaming province haha.. Pansin ko lang kasi, karamihan sa kanila defensive agad.. May stigma sila sa mga taga manila kaya ganon. Naranasan ko nga, wala naman akong ginagawa pero parang iba trato nila sakin pag nagsamasama na mga bisaya. Parang may bakod na sa pagitan ko.. Kung minsan parang hilig nila makipag kumpitensiya or lagi silang laman ng kumprontasyon about ethnicity... Pero salamat sa comment mo, umaasa ako na hindi lahat ganon..
I would like to talk with Colin for hours. He’s very smart and level-headed.
"Regional acceptance" siya yung gumagawa ng sarili niyang barrier 😅
i felt attack after "why the hell do you have to speak for us?" am like martial law as history became an example hasn't bear any good for the country. We speak because we care we do not want tyranny to continue its not your descretion to say why we speak for you. like huy! pinoy ka?
Kasi nga galing kay dgong nila yang ideya na yan at syempre todo samba sila kasi kadugong bisakol nila
It depends on the argument, really. No one can speak for a group on an experience they did not encounter for obvious reasons. You can speak on your opinion about the situation, but you can’t guise it under the defense of speaking for that particular group.
"You're just a person" -Colin 👏
There's a lot of Bisaya people beeing recognized locally and internationally. I don't know where he came from when he says that Bisaya people lacks support when it comes to that matter.
For Martial Law being enjoyed in Mindanao, we are having different experiences. We do love martial law as long as the right thing is being done.
I have a lot of friends that came from Visayas and Mindanao, they don't seem to be like Erick. They're even proud that they're Bisaya.
With job interviews, it's normal that you need to change your accent. Even us pure tagalog, we have to speak the best way we can.
Collin's answer to Erick's question, superb.
Collin is such a good representation of someone coming from Manila.
May superiority complex kasi ang mga bisaya gusto nilang maglatag ng sarili nilang laro sa lugar na hindi nila teritoryo!!!
Federal Government nalang para tignan natin kung saan city pinaka mayaman, And thats Cebu City . Even the Investor and Businesses love bisaya. 👊💖
Manila is literally a Chinese hub now
Pakisabi kay sarat dutae bakit nag iba ang ihip nya sa pederalismo magugulang kasi kayong mga bisakol ang yaman ng bisayang sebobo ay katumbas lamang ng yaman ng isang syudad sa maynila at ang pagpapangkat pangkat ng pederalismo ay hahatiin sa bawat rehiyon! Ano na lang ang mangyayari sa sebobo mo kung ang mga kasama nya sa rehiyon ay bagsak ang kita!!!! Anong sabi ng finance secretary ni dutae 3 rehiyon lang ang may kakayahang tumindig sa pederalismo at wala doon ang probinsya ng rehiyon mong sebobo!!!! Anlaking probinsya ng sebobo tapos mapupunta sa mga kasama nyang naghihikahos pabor na pabor sa min yan kasi yung 3 rehiyon sa luzon ay mauunlad
I hate how Rick said people in Mindanao enjoy Martial Law. It reeks how privileged he his.
Mars, tutal nasa Mindanao ka na, kumausap ka naman ng tao from Lumad community nang malaman mo kung paano sila tine-terrorize.
True. I have encounter Lumad Bakwits na nakatira sa UP ngayon. Hearing their stories breaks my heart. Lalo na kapag iniinvalidate ng kapwa taga Mindanao ang situation nila as if Lumads are as priviledged as city born citizens in the Mindanao.
Huh. Tine terrorize by NPA. Taga mindanao ako and part sa Lumad community dati nang lagi nag nanakot ang NPA then nag karoon nang military camp sa amin huminto sila sa pananakot at nagnanakaw nang baka, baboy at manok. Inambush pa nila military camp sa amin.
Nakapunta kana ba sa mindanao maam ? Lahat ba lumad ang tinanong niyo ? Dapat malinaw po sino ba ang terroize sa kanila ? May ibang lumad leader member nang NPA then pag umalis sila sa grupo pinapatay sila nang kapwa nila na NPA.
@@jamesnavycordero1675 pangalan mo palang berdugo na. Why the fuck would i belive you? A military man killed my grandparents sa province namin and I'm fucking reassuring you, i'd rather join the NPA and seek justice for my family kesa maging berdugo kagaya mo.
@@mowgli0001 lol. Di ka kasi taga mindanao wag ka gawa2 nang kwento dito boy. Tsaka maya makipag usap kung mukha mo nandayn sa profile mo. Edi mag npa ka para kasama ka salot sa pinas. Di mo kasi na ranasan ma takotin ang brgy niyo nang NPA eh. Kung di bibigyan magagalit tapos papatay nang tao yan mga npa.
Wow I like the guy from Manila. Chill lang! Rick uy kalma kalma pod dihang dapita woooay
ako naman hindi manileño pero proud southern tagalog! from batangas I love it here and our southern tagalog accent!
i fell inlove with colin. he is someone you can talk with, and he will never judge you
Im not from manila, but I see manila imperialism attitude as a social and cultural tendency of every place on earth because of political setup having ncr as the seat of govt. It should not be on the burden of the manileño but of the historical and political build of our country
Manila is historically designed to be the captains deck which represents all best Filipinos of the archipelago that make up the Country.
So now it explains why people in manila (not people from manila) feel entitled to decisions of governance to our countrys region here in mindanao.
Manila, Having most central hubs of institutions for school is expected to be crafting and moulding our future leader of the country. Its a tendency not a right or a justification.
Yun naman talaga ang totoo
@@yyfjghhg5410 Not all people in manila are native in manila. The greater population were came from different provinces. And our government officials are from different provinces too.
@@christopher19843 true. The place should ideally represent the best people of the archipelago to lead the nation
@@yyfjghhg5410 so basically, you're generalizing the people in the Manila just because of their history? seryoso jud na siya?
oh. excuse me lang ha pero as far as i am concerned mas discriminative ang mga tiga provinces. di ka pa kilala inaasume na nila na mayabang ka na porket galing manila. dont believe? punta ka sa kahit anong travel blogs. people from the provinces are quick to trash manila. "oh punta ka dito mas maganda dito panget dyan sa manila"
I totally agree and I can say this because I grew up in a province too but at times we go to manila because most of our relatives live here. Most of the people in my province are more judgmental too and makes trivial things about a person a big deal or even an issue for them. Most of the people I meet from manila are more open and understanding as compared to the people I have met in my province who tends to generalize and make assumptions about other people most specially if you're not a local.
FG 16 Ahh that’s why I experience maltreatment whenever I take vacations in the province. Ako yung turista pero hindi nila ako tinatratong parang kauri nila eh samantalang parehas naman kaming Filipino. I remember that time na bumili ako ng siomai sabi ko beef kasi bawal ako sa baboy while smiling and then yung kahera woth a boring face parang galit pa na inabot sakin sukli ko. Iniisip ko noon ano bang ginawa ko. Tapos after ko makuha yung inorder ko, baboy yung laman. Nalaman ko na lang nung nakasakay nako ng koche. Bad experience talaga. Isa sa di ko makakalimutan. It’s like they hatin without reasons.
@Vince Sang Vince Sang takot ma bara kaya nag bisaya day? hahaha kala ko ba "magaling" kayo mag english anyare? maraming tourist spots dito pero real talkan baka hindi niyo afford kaya panay reklamo kayo. maraming nagscscam? bakit? sainyo wala? haha hide behind your language all you want di gagana yan. Laitin mo pa mga tagalog chaka mo na gawin yan pag tapos ka na mag lampaso dudong. Ambot ambot ka pang nalalaman. ulol.
@Vince Sang naiintindihan kita. Mostly sa foreigners they want views and sub counts. Trust me it's real. It is called pinoy baiting. One of the reasons why so many "so-called youtubers" tapping Filipino audience is because of this. Bobolahin tapos pupurihin and all, tayo naman nauuto. If only you understand why Manila is so crowded and ugly, you know why? Because people from the provinces, other regions go to Manila to find their luck and better income. Hindi naman namin pinili na dugyot lugar namin, hindi namin pinili na naging Tagalog kami kung sabihan nyo kami na mga superior kami. Tagalog ako, mga magulang ko hindi taga Manila, lumaki ako sa Kabite, Tagalog salita ko, nanay ko taga Ilocos, tatay ko taga Leyte. So what's the point of generalizing us?
@Vince Sang the problem with you guys na mga bisaya ang syempre not all ay nauuna judgement nyo and ayaw nyo agad maki-associate kapag Tagalog kasi may brand na agad kami na nakalagay sa ulo namin na mapagmataas etc. May mga friend naman akong bisaya, ok naman sila. Masarap sila kasama. Hindi sukatan ang lugar ng tinitirhan mo sa ugali mo. Tandaan mo yan bay!!
Wow. Colin was very level headed all throughout and really put in so much effort into making Rick feel comfortable ~ not that Rick was uncomfortable. While I don't generally agree to some assumptions Rick said, I actually commend him for his bravery in letting those emotions out. He really made good points and we cannot diminish the fact that some probinsyanos feel this way. However, I think that Manila has evolved and that it is a city for all people regardless of which dialect you speak of. And that opportunities, wherever you are in the world, come to those who have an upper hand and to those who knows how to get it for themselves.
They are discussing power dynamics among Filipino ethnic groups (representation, class disparities, etc... ) but they seem oblivious to the fact they are dressed like Americans, speaking American English and talking in a video format that is also American.
when people complain, they usually complain about Tagalog cultural hegemony but not about the American's
Yep, there is no Filipino It's a fake Spanish word. Bisaya and Tagalog are two different languages, people must be separated into different countries.
uNA SA LAHAT AYAW NG MGA TAO KAY DUTERTE DAHIL SA MGA PINAGGAGAWA NIYA AT HINDE DAHIL SA PAGKABISAYA NIYA PLEASE
Hear hear
Imong mama
pagsinta _ LOUDER
LOUDERR!!!
La la la la la la
Rick reeks of insecurity. Just putting it out there.
Truu halata talaga insecure
Truth amp
@Love what truth? he's just a hypocrite. I don't accept him as a bisaya kay kaulaw ra siya.
Just my observation. The bisaya guy speaks so proudly of his ethinicity, which makes me feel like even faced with a very level headed Manileño he’s still trying to prove something. The Manileño seems to not mind ethnic differences.
Hey Bisayan counterparts, we don’t downplay you, we are one, no need to prove yourself to us, we recognize you as equal.
Kudos to Colin for being so relaxed and trying to get rid of the political aspect. Directing the conversation towards differences in the culture and stigma.
For you it is, but for the rest of the nation it's not the case, Bisaya people still need to prove ourselves just to be recognized as equals to other Filipinos.
watching this video could have a clash of thoughts, opinion and emotion! this discussion is relevant for me because me as a bisaya i felt rick's burst of expression that sound so negative from other people however he is not talking for all of us bisaya thus he made it cleare thats he just want to be himself and with that, he is speaking for himself only on how he experienced what a tagalog people treat bisaya. me raised in a bisaya community and speaking tagalog is kinda bit fine, because my mothers side is from cavite and batangas and i learn how to speak straight bisaya from the ages of 8 or 9 something kaya growing up with both culture and language is great however when i got to manila everything changes because manileños think if your from outside NCR, non tagalog speaker, PROBINSYANO, they somehow treat you different idk if its just me or being negative of what pero they make you as their laughing stuff but i dont easily get offended pero it made me think that having this different orientation and misunderstand toward one cultural background could be and issue for all of us. and if no one will adjust and try to understand one another it will be a worts thing in this country 😉