Gold medal Lotus bike designer and his legendary cycles that will blow your mind. Meet Mike Burrows
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Oh my, finally i managed to document all the amazing work that my good friend Mike Burrows
has created in the bicycle world.He has also inspired so many young engineers and bike builders,
Olympic gold ,TCR Compact among many others.
He is and always will be my hero.
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Gold medal winning Lotus bike designer and his legendary bicycles that will blow your mind. Meet Mike Burrows. #136
Thank you so much for taking the time to make and upload this truly excellent video. Mike was such a brilliant man and it was so interesting to watch but tinged with sadness too after his recent passing. Another cycling legend has left us and so many of us will miss him greatly. It is clear to see that you and your family were good friends with Mike and I send you my sincere sympathy as well as all his nearest and dearest.
Fascinating! Glad UA-cam pushed this onto my stream. A true cycling genius.
p.s. book just ordered thru the BHPC site. Look forward to it making its way out here to NZ 👍🏻
People like Mike Burrows, make the world go around.
I detect genius in the man.
RIP Mr Burrows, I only know you through your extraordinary HPV engineering and designs. You were one of the people I would most have liked to spend a few hours with, talking about what inspired you.
I had Windcheetah 611, and regret selling it some ways. I’ve always admired Mike’s designs, innovation and irreverence. Great to see him still vibrant and doing what he so clearly loves. As for his lack of job offer post Giant - let’s have him doing special projects at Brompton. Mono-blade, enclosed chain case, aero seat post - could transform an already legendary UK design.
I bought my Windcheetah over 20 years ago, I bought it with inheritance from my gran and every time I go out on it I remember her. If you are ever near St. Albans, you are more than welcome. I have #337 and yes I have a parking brake :)
Thank you so much for the great video...👍👍👍
John, thank you for this, Mike and the story he is telling is a joy to behold. That said, it is also a joy to listen to the sounds Theo makes, full of wonder. It is, for me, a feel good story and, again, thank you for taking the time to get Mike's story out there.
😊
What a lovely man, and so creative 😊
I love how Mike has embraced the mad scientist hair 😂 not very aero though.
True.
He could've at least uttered a "Great Scott!" once or twice :)
I beg to differ. I have that same hair and can attest it is phenomenally aero. Wind simply blows through. 😎
Mike's a thoroughly nice guy and an absolute legend had the pleasure of meeting and chatting (in length) at Bikefix Xmas do years back he's like the chilled out Doc Brown of the bike world I guess Boardman would have been Marty back in the day lol
2 legends, one stop. Thanks for this.
Thanks for making such an informative record of Mike's brilliant designs. This week I have just finished re-reading his excellent book, Bicycle Design. It is incredible that his fertile brain has to an extent been sidelined by the actions of the UCI. I cannot help wondering where bikes would now be if progress had been embraced instead of being banned. Fortunately, he has found laid back bikes as a way of amazing us with his mind.
R.I.P.
I‘m glad you documented his amazing work.
Mike is the Allen Millyard of the cycling world. Interesting that England has produced these unique designers.
epic find
What a lovely and incredibly clever bloke!
Sadly, he is one of many people of his age that get forgotten and/or discarded despite their ability and willingness to share their wealth of valuable knowledge.
The world is poorer for its neglect.
As an aside, he reminds me of a benevolent and cheery Rick Sanchez! 😁
P.S. You have great taste in music.
Don't worry. We neglected old farts know the truth. It's the youngers we feel sad for.
@@gregordonnach7970 I'm not worried one bit.
I'm surrounded by a group of guys that total over 500 years of acquired skills and knowledge, and a fair share of mistakes as well.
There is precious little we can't design, do, make, repair, modify, hack or support.
It's those that think we're just a bunch of know nothing ol' farts that are missing out on all that we've learnt and, like you said, that I feel sorry for.
I had more than a touch of youthful arrogance myself 50 years ago and hang my head in shame just at the thought of it.
when you realize that the image you've got in your head, that stands as an example for what something is, is actually the exception.
I was thinking about Mike just yesterday, your video recommended today. It's years since we last met but Mike hasn't changed at all! Excellent to see you still in such good health, Mike, still doing interesting stuff, still cycling, quickly.
Oh, I want a copy of that book.
I worked at a shop that sold a lot of those Giants! I remember the fork recall! 😯 I replaced quite a few.
Thank you for another awesome video!
Great interview with a fantastic personality.
i wonder who'll continue his screw-the-uci out of the box thinking bike design legacy
"they are just very stupid people", that sum up UCI nicely
Cycling as a sport is about the riders, not the bikes. That's what the UCI is about. Cycling hasn't become a better, more enjoyable competition after the invention of carbon fiber, it was just as good when Fausto Coppi was racing steel frames, and if we were still racing steel frames there would be more people competing and having fun instead of saving money for carbon.
People want to see a sport that they can relate to, athletes racing on the same bikes they have in their garage. If you want to get into competitive cycling today you're looking at a big investment and that's not good for the sport, the last thing you'd want is to make that gap even larger forcing people to shell out more cash to be competitive.
To sum it up: I know it's controversial but cycling would be more fun if the UCI banned power meters and carbon fiber. Sports are about muscles and brains, if you want to see nuts bolts and wires watch F1 or human powered vehicle races.
@@Michael-jl8gj Personally I much prefer seeing design and technology develop and share Mike Burrows' views on UCI for this reason. But thanks for sharing your views, as the decisions of the UCI seem much more logical now. This is sad for designers, engineers and the like, but probably good for people who follow cycling more closely.
@@Michael-jl8gj I'm sorry but the UCI is stupid. I know the philosophy but if thats what they are after they have failed miserably. Bikes still skyrocket in prices, while not pushing any innovation. manufacturers will just put the money into stupid developments that dont get you anywhere and don't trickle down to cheaper bikes. Just the fact that they have rules on socks just tells you its shit. The problem that this shit is boring as hell is the format of the TDF and the way teams are structured. Its basically hour long tactical snoozefest for one sprint in the end.
@Bobbie Tuggboat you make money by getting sponsors, you get sponsors by getting fans, you get fans by making cycling entertaining and accessible to a wide audience, wether the UCI succeeded in this is up for debate. But saying "it's about money" is irrelevant. Name one thing not about money lol.
I imagine to Prof Burrows EVERYONE is "very stupid people".
Great video! I assume the 4 people who downvoted it work for for the UCI.
Idiots
I’ve just watched this again after the sad news about Mike. What a guy and what a loss. Thanks Mike for everything that you have done for cycling and to velo-ads for this amazing insight to Mike, his thoughts and process.
The problem now a days is that the greed took over in big bike companies.
What a legend
What!? This man is a legend, how could we not know until now that you knew him? If I knew him you wouldn't be able to stop me from saying it!
Awesome. He's a legend in bike building. I would love to get a bike made
thanks, good to see mike in good health. his inventions are great.
your son already on the like a bike! I kept the one of my children in my bike collection.
Very interesting. My biggest take from the video? You can have the best idea in the world and unless you patent it, you will not get a cent. Although in today's world, they would copy it anyway. Nice video , thanks for sharing.
china steals patents about roughly 12 seconds after its filed😳😳😳☠️☠️☠️☠️
there are very few other masters of bicycles like mike burrows; gary klein, gary fisher, vroemen, cesar rojo, olivier bossard, pegoretti maybe, steve hed, and that's it. But, none of them ever made a bike not even half as good looking and innovative as the Lotus, none. And then in the road side, the tcr still the best looking bike, from which cervelo copied a lot for their R line, still giant has more slooping, much cooler bike the giant, if it wasnt for the giant branding of course.
How you going Mike. Lots of fond memories of lots of years ago at Bike UK
Sad news today on Road CC, I have 2 of Mike's Bikes. An original MCR and the black anodised Team ONCE super light weight TCR (1.1 kg frame and fork}, just like Jalabert rode. They are both well loved bikes and still enjoy riding them. The MCR has done 15,500 kms while the TCR has done 54,000 kms. RIP Mike.
legend
... brilliant guy, the best of british :)
I wonder could you fashion a chain cover to put on a modern TT / Tri bike to make it more aero?
Ask Mike.
this youtube channel deserves 1 million subs!
Bloody marvellous video!
My favorite thing is the structural chain case -- it puts the cog near the point where the hub connects rather than at the other end of the cantilever. It might make it tricky for multi-speed or freewheeling, but maybe not so much. OTOH, it would seem to make everything a lot stiffer vertically and not so much laterally.
Why do people only ask, who rode it and not who designed it.....? Please forward these comments on to Mike as have always liked the TCR Giants from there first models. As per industry these days, computers as the wiz bag.. but not to many people can imagine something and then design and make it like Mike. A little bit like church they forget to thank the maker, thank you Mike for your years of dedication to the industry I’m turley one who appreciates all you’ve done. Chapo
Thanks, John for taking us into the workshop and mind of the Legend Mike Burrows. I did have a brief chat to Mike and look at some of his creations at the HPV Championship in Deal in 2018. I will be waiting for further episodes from John and Mike from Velo-ads.
Just discovered your channel, absolubtly brilliant stuff and such charisma! thank you for sharing this with us all!.
Been there, had my cranks shortened by Mike, as lots of us have. It's just up the road for me.
His workshop is like a working museum come future-tec emporium.
Good upload M8
Humans need more streamline velomobiles with 1000 watt motors to scoot around citys I think. Pulling a trailer would also be great. I know they've been made but don't see many on UA-cam. Certainly none on the streets. Fast cars shouldn't be allowed on the city streets as they're to fast, heavy and dangerous.
Mike is a great guy to chat to about bicycles and engineering. Almost missed a race because of chatting to him. His bikes are fantastic.
Un Poco De Todo :)
He reminds me Doc on Back to the Future.
reminds mee, my "new" giant frame, is a yellow giant that says once on the side. Was a new model in... 2000 I think? My silver aluminium frame giant from 98, was stolen, and I liked it better acthually. Oh well
Thanks John, That was a very informative and interesting video.
Small pitch chain inside the front fork, with home made derailleur. No questions anymore Your Honor
Lovely blog will done very interesting 👍👍👍👍👍
Brilliant. Many thanks. A fan meets a fanatic. Good job you were there Maggie or a very naughty boy would have come home with lots of different bikes.
I loved the Cad Cam drawing board.
The subcontractor (at 38:45) shouldn't have been able to get a patent on the inline adjuster, since Mike could prove the prior existence of not only the idea, but working prototypes.
Clearly not all patent offices operate with the same rigour.
Awesome stuff, John. Glad this found it's way into my 'suggested viewing' list. This is up there with "collectible interviews" of other famous cycling pioneers, like Carl Georg Rasmussen of Leitra.
Thank you for a great video on a great man. Some unbelievable facts about the TCR frame design.
One question about the TCR Aero forks, were they designed by Mike?
I think the Aero Forks were banned on road bikes by the UCI in 2004.
Giant stopped putting them on road bikes in 2004 with the Giant Aero 2 TCR.
I have the 2003 Giant Aero TCR with the Aero Forks.
I also have a 1st generation 1997 TCR EXT with the Areo wheels.
Thank you from a Mike Burrows fan.
Greetings to Mike! He is the one who infected me with the Velomobile-Virus after the Allewedder and the Leitra didn't ;-) I met him in Leicester on the HPV-Event in 1997 (?) and even got to testride his fully faired windcheetah - like the one at the beginning of the video? Pics here: velomobil.net/wie-alles-begann/?lang=en
How the wheels acts in cross winds is a factor in our windy midwest plains.
"UCI are stupid people" unequivocal truth. The UCI 3-1 ratio and double triangle and production mandate means the now pro's are on heavy, overbuilt ill fitting bikes, consumers are are temperamental, overpriced, and deposable bikes. Elites should be sub 10 lb/4.5 kg bikes designed to last length of grand tour appox 120 hours (or even a season so training and racing are the same) like how F1 drivers get 3 engines per season. The point of UCI production mandate was make it affordable but after the abandonment of B worlds for developing nations they made is clear weren't interesting in developing the sport in South Asia, South East Asia, Sub-Saharan Africa, Caribbean, and Latin America (edit I forget Central Asia, Pacific rim, North Africa and middle East) The pool of potential endurance athletes from east Africa is almost unparalleled accept for the Tarahumara in Mexico. I also don't understand why Shimano doesn't put forth a full World Tour team. Japan has the depth of racers, interesting and corporate structures. Anywho the result is at least US or state cycling turned into alternative to polo for bratty adult children or tech employees who live an and around urban centers like NYC and SF. Long gone are days pick up racing and full calendar of USCF races. Now it $120-150 farm to table Fondos... bleh...
One final point on UCI getting ride of 8 race world cup and replaced it with World tour truly was one of stupid as most short sighted things they ever did.
The Easy-B would be a great design platform for Lowrider Bikes. You only need to tweak the frame design a bit to make room for more custom bling.
Fellow cyclist Einstein also had long crazy hair.
Great to see Mike and his bikes. Would love to meet the man one day. Have owed an MCR2 from new since 1997, awesome bike.
Could you possibly ask Mike if he knows roughly how many of the MCR1 and MCR2 models were produced by Giant? Can’t get any response from Giant at all, and have asked many times.
TIA.... please upload more by Mike 👍
At a ripe old age I've rekindled a love for all things bike. Only wish I'd met this fine fellow long ago. I simply collect them now with my pension and ride ever so little. No matter, the feeling is still there the distance is of little matter. *Just acquired a pristine Lotus Legend, the "other Lotus" I suppose.
As aptly said below, joy tinged with sadness; wonderful to hear those Speedy "trivia" from the man himself.
31:04 i bet there some BMX and dirtjumper manufacturers who'd like a look at the short wheel base design. Doesn't change riding but does change how abike handle sfor tricks and in the air.
Stifling innovation would still have us on donkey carts. The likes of Burrows & Millyard should be celebrated
I've seen Mike comment, in another video, that the ideal fork angle is vertical and that the only reason for rake is so that the bikes can accommodate humans. With this in mind, I wonder why designs like the Ratcatchers have rake.
An historic video. Met Mike three times. Such an interesting man.
Sr.Mike como gostaria de estar ai, na sua oficina, para falar de algumas ideias que tenho.
e que á muito tempo esta me atormentando.
eu não me conformo de ver as bikes com tão pouca ideias de transmissão.
muitos de nos que amamos e praticamos pedelar as bikes,
não fazemos nada para mudar essa transmissão tão antiga.
ta mais do que na hora de aposentar essa mecânica isso tem mais 150 anos.
ta na hora de partimos para os maravilhoso imã de neodímio.ou
pedalar os mecanismo hidráulicas de oleo pressurizado para rotor hidráulico de força
ai eu quero ver se os ciclista vão ficar tão cansado
Thank you Mike Burrows.
Never stop doing what you enjoy, (it's the secret to a long life).
The world is a better place with you in it.
Thank you @velo-ads for the insight into his life.
P.S.
What happened to your hair!
You look like "Bank account guy". ;-)
Enjoy life & Stay safe out there.
looks like ancient alien tech on steroids
Love to hear more about your Norway trip on the Ratcatcher John.
Now that was a special interview John. Thanks for that.
Mike's creative energy, his accomplishments and talent were nicely set off by his humility and candor.
Hear hear!
This person is a genius. Literally! 👍
Make the easyb totally electric and you will have a winner
Mike is a icon. A true legend. 💪
Thank you for this wonderful channel sharing your many chats with Mike Burrows. I love your style. Human powered transport forever. And my god that specialized apron at 2:08 I haven't seen one of those for 35 years.
"A nice little local product" I love this man.
Croc's and Sock's ;o)))))
Getting old 😂
Awesome interview of a brilliant bike builder and designer. Seriously considering buying his book now.
He has quite a few since this vlog went out :🙂
He has sold quite a few since this vlog went out :🙂
He's sold at least 1 more now.
wooow
Anyone notice the gigantic spider on the tailbox at 14:13?
It's not that big!
The plastic bladed MCR spokes are very interesting to me. Unfortunately, my google-fu failed me and I have only found forum posts written by people who have no idea what exactly those spokes are. How were these made? Aluminium inserts at the ends and a carbon sleeve inbetween those?
I remember that "fibers are coming everywhere" era. It sounds stupid and it was. Steel tubes are best. Why hunt grams from bike if rider have ten to twenty kilos excessive fat, or more? Rock bottom was Swedish Itera plastic bicycle factory, which costs millions and bike was useless.
Really interesting that was...
A legend indeed, Mike is a visionary, a rebel, craftsman & engineer. Thanks for the opportunity to share in your visit to the master's workshop.
To Norway and back, well, not back but to Lilihammer... well, not really Lili... but
Thanks, John and Magda, this is velo gold! It makes we want to pop round to Mike's workshop for a cuppa...and stay for a week or two.
Great vid, super guy, to many ads
Blimey! The man, the myth, the shorts! Easy B - a factory bike? or for long ships like containers. Belt drive: any thoughts?
Do you sell any Velo-Mobile prints ? Like posters or prints that can be displayed ?
Very, very nice video, Thanks
Beautiful bikes. Typical story for a designer. I wish these two guys were close neighbours. Thanks.
Thank you so much for making this video, and thank you Mike.
I paused and ordered the book right away!
Thanks John, this is fantastic Time Travel with a creative and fun guy!
Great video about Mike Burrows. Always an interesting man to listen too. Thanks.
Great video John. I always forget how many projects he's been associated with. thanks for this. Met him lots of times.
What a star. Always a fan and he even signed my book. I have his No.3 aero seatpost. Great film.
Rest in peace Mike...absolute LEGEND!
Nice to see your UA-cam name on GCN again :)
I wasn't aware how old velomibiles are as a species. Impressive!