23:30 I beg to differ. SME's are likely to be replaced by LLM's. Today someone with zero knowledge about a specific domain can use LLM's to identify and rectify problems. Also with equals like Private GPT and even Open AI for corporates, there are ways in which LLM helps give recommendations based on the companys knowledge bank. So not sure what SME's would be doing in that case?
Anand has no vision but lots of experience. So he is explaining what olders already know, and youngsters don't care. Ppl working with Anand will run away to USA and never return. Very inspiring manager. Pls retire
The truth is, after 40 there is a cost involved for the individual, you choose career or family. I think most men suffer in their 40's. The most messy phase of life. No one understands you, neither wife, kids nor parents. Sadly micro family is a failure and thats the core issue.
I'm still powerful 💪. And I will continuously pray to God to make me happy and f.. These companies. I will suggest you to write and share your experience as much as you can. These company owners will be punished definitely
Even if you keep learning new tech after 35 or 40 years age. Still there will be young talent who will be more cost effective . So the point is with increasing age, your chances to survive will always be low and will keep reducing Edit 1 : keep investing and make a big portfolio. 2 : think about having another source of income along with your IT job salary.
Apart from reasonable skills, Playing Office Politics to ones advantage and also networking with people up the hierarchy is the most important skill needed for survival and thriving in corporate world
At least in a new technical skill, both experienced person after 35 or 25-26 years with 3-4 years workex are at a same level...bcos both have just knowledge and no experience...This is how the manager views it
Im in IT for 24 yrs. I have worked in 6 countries, im 48 and i suffered two layoffs. Don't worry, learn new things on the job. My style is, look for long , slow running activities, more people intensive activities and try to optimise it. You dont have to learn new things. Just try to optimise what you do on daily work. You will survive at work for long. Im still hands on coding. AI can be done even in Microsoft EXCEL. AI is a concept , as i gave an example above, find the problem, identify repeated problem, solve it, monitor it. You will be a star in your office. Jai Hind.
The problem is continuous learning. I mean continuous learning sounds good when you are young. But when you age, it's very difficult to study everyday. But in IT, everyday study is required these days because of AI. And when you age, you have responsibilities which will give you less time. So responsibilities, growing age, less energy, less studying time will lead to chaos.
@@rohitbhatia6909bro iam neet 3year dropper sadly I didn't get seat but I got bams in govt clg and iam thinking to join bca what's your suggestion bro
Thanks a lot Hemant for inviting me to the Podcast. These Corporate topics are close to my heart and I will be glad if this discussion helps even 1 person in the audience. Eager to know the feedback from the Audience :)
Sir i hve govt job lekin main usko chod kar it me aana chahta hun...... Meri salary hai 35 k...... Lekin main soch rha hun it me ye.... 60k v rhegi to chalega.... Kya main sahi hun
Thank you for sharing the insides. It is a wake-up call... very truly said. I wish I had come across this video well before. I have 18 years of experience and due to Internal business policy, I had to change my process. Now I am assigned to the Internal IT Help Desk Team and doing entry-level work. Please advise me on how to take my career further and grow up.
I’m a senior developer in Bengaluru at 45. At a SME/ Architect level. Just make you’re self capable to guide juniors. It’s about expertise and interest.
@@artbyshiv910 These days I see students focus too much on "Coding Skills". I rather suggest you focus on fundamentals - Data structure, Computer Architecture, OS, Compiler Design etc.
@@pangolinkumar2329 it happened only because companies nowadays put way too much emphasis on competitive coding for hiring freshers. they copy faang badly and then wonder why someone who is super duper good in solving known cp problems has poor documentation and lacks foundational knowledge.
I am 66 years old IT professional in the USA ( From a good school IIT New Delhi); been laid off three times; bounced every time; presently a cybersecurity professional; keep your skills updated, maintain your soft skills, and be good in networking with your professional peers;
@PratikChaudhari-xt6ww there is none in the US; as long as I have enough skills I can keep working in the U.S.; every time I go to India, to lecture on cybersecurity as a volunteer at Engineering colleges, they bring up age, I politely reply.
I am into IT with 25 yrs exp, worked in US, Singapore & India. Settled in Singapore. Trust me all those young ppl, focus on strong coding skills with cryptographic, algorithms etc and make sure you have strong foundation, you should be fine and flying carrier. Ppl play politics when they know they cannot survive or find a job.
Cred, Physicswala ..such Startups lack experience and expertise, and hence, they are in huge 📉 losses. Kunal Shah, Cred owner, has always been an unsuccessful entrepreneur. His failure portpolios are Snapdeal, Cred, RechargeNow, etc. All are his flop projects and burnt investors' money and time. He shouldn't be a role model.
Actually people in their 40s shouldn't worry if they've been smart so far with their money management. They've worked for about 15 years and have another 10 to 15 years to go. If they've used their salary so far to invest and create a good corpus with good asset allocation, then they shouldn't worry. But if they haven't been smart with their money, they will struggle and this is what we see with most today. There's no point of upgrading yourself with more knowledge if you don't manage your money properly. So, one skill that most IT people should attain is money management. All this upgrading and learning new technology will only help their employers and not them. Make salary irrelevant in your 40s with an investment corpus so big that you can throw the resignation on your manager and walk away. Unfortunately, most people can't do it.😊
Sara gyan victim ko doge kya? Ab mere sawalo ka javab do. Companies ne khud ko upgrade kiya? Apna programming language banaya? Apna operating system banaya (except ISRO)? Apna social media banaya? Apna chatgpt jaisa kuch banaya? Musibat aati hai to Indian ban jate hai. IT companies are behaving like bollywood. Dekhte jao ab kya kya hota hai.
@@collectiveconscious3956lol they are choo tiyas in upgrading new stalker everyday around you so that the so called cheep executive aappecer can get his daughter f**ked , bodi ji sends lot of people close to you , I feel that he has lot of close moments with aappeecher , what technology you talk about, its sh$$ going on within , bullying and castism , groupism is like even daud gangs are waste
This is true. Myself faced it. It is extremely depressing. It has made me sit back and wonder what next, and i hsve still not figured it out. Dont have business sense. And yes I am an introvert. I was being pushed into management... which i hated though mostly everyone appreciated my work ethic, because i believe in giving clear expectations and then i dont nag or interfere. However, frankly management takes not much talent except clear decision making. A lot of people undervalue this skillset. Then they make foolish people as managers and cycle continues. Basically in a cost cutting environment, middle management layer easily gets axed. I hate that i don't know how to earn independently. I am very impressed by UA-camrs, but i dont wish to face the camera. I also find social media too toxic. People just go around being negative thoughtlessly but it affects your mental health. I am not blaming anyone. This is reality. If u have not been good at politics to rise to higher management then your age will play against you in middle management roles. I wish everyone of us in this predicament find a way out. I am still trying to be hopeful...but its tough keeping a positive look. Worry creeps in, while savings deplete. And more thsn anything...being discarded like this....affects your self confidence.
An engineer with 15 years of coding experience is not same as 8 years one. He is 10x developer while 8 years one would be happy adding few lines of code here and there, retrofit unit test cases etc. , he does not have depth to build the frameworks that different tenants would use eventually. These 20 years coders are gems
8:00 jab seekhna hi hai to Indian IT company ke liye kaam hi kyo kare khud ka kaam na kar le? Aakhir Indian IT company ne aisa kon sa innovation kar diya? Amazon ka cloud☁️ hai. Google ka Gcp hai, Microsoft ka OS hai aur cloud☁️ bhi hai. Programming language hai, map hai , yt hai. Puraane big IT companies ne diya kya hai? Except Indian Startups and Indian Doctors
Former HR manager of an IT company here. There's only so much you can learn. So, build an alternative career. Company is going to hire a younger chap because he costs less.
I started in 2003 as a java programmer. I could fully understand nuances of core Java by 2012. By 2014, I could write end to end multithreaded code. By 2017, cloud and microservices took over. But my java skills are still relevant. Being more experienced makes you invaluable. Problem is Indian IT is ruled by shitty service firms like TCS, info etc. And, experienced programmers can't utilize their skills fully in India. If you migrate to US or Europe, you'll make tons of money with experience.
Thats what I wanted to say. Indian IT services companies wanted to run the show with kids. They are less bothered about quality of delivery and innovation (for innovation, they are aquiring foreign companies). And there is one more branch growing in these IT companies is Infra Support (ITIL), where qualified engineers are being utilized for password reset, taking and restoring backups, server management, onboarding and offboarding of employees etc. So the clear message for young IT talent is leave your mother country. After 40, there is very minute possibility that you will get any IT job in India, even if you learn any latest technology. So to survive in your current job, keep attending those useless calls, preparing and presenting those flase 'all green' ppt's and if you have latent of buttering your manager, concentrate on improving that skill :D
@@Connect-To-Ajit Product based firms and investment banks and GCCs are better for long term career as programmer as they develop most of the stuff in-house. And Indian IT firms are definitely going to face stiff competition from them for good talent.
*pls dont spend of costly mobiles and other gadgets, save money from day 1 u start earning....open a ppf account and start saving..dont run behind buying 2nd home....stay with ur parent even after marriage*
I am 50, in IT industry for almost 24 years, i see great value people with 40+ can bring along with their experience, most important is never stop learning something new and bring value to your team and company 👍
@@marmara9741 good point, the skills that you add should be inline with your company path for management to recognise, an IT company might really not appreciate golfing or mountainairing skills of its employees
If there are 100 developers in a village, all 100 developers cannot go to high roles even if they have competence. So the logic is simple. As you age, there are 90 precent chances for 90 precent of the developers to lose job. But they can create a business instead of working for a company.
Loosing 4 hrs only in traffic by riding on bike..anytime in hyderabad apart from work for 9 hrs Sleep for 5 hrs Hospital treatment 1.5 hr Majority of the public suffering
Simple sum up for IT guys: forget about your experience and age. give 30 mins daily for yourself (if possible, during working hours only ) for self learning. Google and youtube always helps.
@@iamnoob7593 I have seen people surviving their families in tier 2 cities with 10k-15k monthly income. Yes, they don't live in 30k rented flats, they don't own a car, they don't go to bars on weekends. They don't even think about vacation. There are extremely good cbse schools having monthly fee of 2000 for students upto 12th in those cities. If living with luxury is what you call surviving, then you are correct.
@@iamnoob7593 I have around 43 lakhs invested in mf and stocks. I am 32 and trust me I am living paycheck to paycheck. I struggle a lot at coding and stocks are also not reaping unprecedented returns. I fear losing my job everyday.
A must-watch interview for every fresher in IT industry. I am 25 years into the IT industry and whatever is said here is vital for every guy new to a job.
I came here for something new....but it's old wine in new mouth....Idealistic, impractical and far away from reality....bookish, oft repeated, trite, banal, common place
Puraane big IT company ne diya kya hai? Software companies matlab videshi companies ki dalali. Ek programming language batao jo ye big IT company ne banaya ho?
I am currently in the same phase exactly 😢 I am 45 year old with 16years of exp , stuck with the sane company for 15years and struggling to get out of it. Dunno how to survive in future no backups too. Due to the laziness and comfort zone stuck to the same job. On top of that with present market conditions no calls
All good points. I can relate to pretty much all of them because I have been through Dev/Lead/Manager positions- one thing is important “Continuous Learning”. It’s so easy to get comfortable and fall behind. Make small achievable goals. Small achievable goals will build a habit and over just 1-2 years will add to your resume and confidence. Thanks, really appreciate this talk 👏
But I am just started learning in my early 40s.. let's see,, will keep learning ..I think there lots of opportunities and nothing to worry about it as long as you keep learning and actioning it 😊
No one mentioned in the comment section here but you should focus on paying off all your debts before 40 including your mortgage. So if companies kick you to the curb at 40 you can easily live off your savings/side income. Materialism is curse and will keep you slave to the system untill you drop dead.
Very interesting and honest conversation. Appreciate bringing these points and having the discussion. It also touch bases upon the entire lifecycle of an IT worker if I put it and plot it against one's age. What lies beyond is always unknown and the rate of technology change is so fast and mad to keep pace with, it is your character that will be tested in the longer run.
IT is the worst market to be in. It will be always competitive. This is the only area where company will not care for you as you get experienced but they will look out to replace you and save cost.
Root cause of all Problems: Excessive supply and few jobs. Solution: No solution as of now. But ,if possible, Migrate, Migrate, Migrate.... to other countries. There People are still working on many legacy technologies such Main frames, AS 400, SAP etc... from the past 20 years, better work life balance (exceed expectation there is meet expectation here). There One can work as a developer or senior developer throughout the career. Here it's is the pyramid structure and will not allow you to work in the same role.
Yes that’s the bitter truth of this lavish industry that suppose you face any serious health issue in life and away for 1 year then you are useless . This is ruthless industry. If you have to evolve and study even in your 40s then what sort of life a person is living. This industry has also trapped great talent’s because of lucrative fresher salaries, who are much capable of learning more in 20s , can crack difficult exams in 20s when they have energy. But if you get trapped you have to live this shit life for whole life coz everyone is coming in this industry and doing almost similar stuff .
Frankly , after 40 years either you should be able to get to a position where you can make minimum 1 crore per year as salary apart from taxes. Or you should be able to retire and live your life with all the savings as pension. I personally want to retire in next 5 to 10 years. Need to clear off my home loans and wanna visit every temple and stay some time in Himachal Pradesh or Uttarakhand where ever I get chance to Live near a serene environment. In IT as per todays cost of living and land rates, you might be hardly buy one home and make some savings. If you are lucky you might be able to buy one additional home and that's it. in INDIA.. Even going to US or UK is not that profitable these days. 1999 till 2010 were great days to go abroad. Now its really of not much use. Cost of living in other nations increased so badly and salaries are not increasing. So My suggestion is to either innovate and make some product , or just do some business etc the point here is to always have plan B. Avoide over spending and save as much as you can, do investments. prepare for retirement. Or else even after 40 years you will struggle for money.
People do keep updating and learning, but to what extent. I know people who keep doing certifications every now and then, but when they don't get an opportunity to explore that learning, these learnings just remain on certificate and they dont remember. what they learnt.
it's a very valid point.it's individual responsibility to keep abreast with latest developments in IT, but the companies should also invest in re-skilling and providing new opportunities to their staff to apply these learnings, rather than just hiring a 25 year old or 30 year old who will again look to switch in next one or two years for better pay !
India's IT has bleak future. In the next 10 years, other nations are picking up in terms of their IT skills. We ll have tough competition from these. emerging nations. AI will surely replace many professionals. The work that needs 10 ppl csn now be done with 5 or even lesser people. For a country of India's size, the number of IT professionals who would be replaced would be in Lakhs.
Technology never saturates, people become stagnant. IT is multi decade story and Indians have advantages being ahead in the race already. Keep learning and keep earning.
Tu kya kaam krta h Bhai Jo ye bol raha h? IT industry will keep on increasing gradually, tumhari job nahi lag rhi iska ye matlab nahi h ki IT me kuch issue h. Issue tujh me h loser, Jo ek achi job bhi nhi crack kr skta. Quit kar aur Ghar pe apni machuda
Bhaiyaji im in 40 and still able to change company like anything, im an architect never into people management 😂 and i love competition, love to crush it 😊
Sir I am also nearby 40 and nearby 15 years experience. My current company in last 5 years they are not provide any hike. If a front end architect, which skills they are expect? Please guide me sir. I am totally depressed and struggled every day. I don't know What I learn? Everytime I got unexpected questions from the interviewer
Looks like he has spent all his life in IT ‘services’ company. His advice on technical skills and hands on role is absolutely wrong. Good software development only comes from experience look at people’s insights from Western markets from their first hand experience. You can make tons of money with hands on roles. You will always be valuable and least insecure. People who become managers in Indian IT services companies they are least useful in the market. Their world view is absolutely wrong. They are basically unemployable in the US and overall Western countries. I can this from my first person observation. He is a typical manager in WITCH companies who is useless outside what he and his company does. 😂
there is no Career after 40 its not true .. we have architects and solution managers etc .. who are over 40 and they are the backbone of the process. evolution is important in IT if you are stuck in day-to-day tasks and do not gain any knowledge you will be out of the system. we lost some recruits who are stuck at one stage ... kam mila he khatam karte bas ho gaya... ye he issue
Why do u need to work in 40s? If u have already screwed ur health by working hard in IT till 40 and saved a hell lot of money. This is story of everyone in IT in india.
I don't think you need to worry or bother too much about all these things ! I will give a cliche example - when machines came to replace men in doing muscle work, people complained about losing their jobs - but today new kind of jobs have been created ! So things will evolve , programmers will still be needed to review code written by machines (example) ! Reducing our population, and of course letting machines do much of the dirty work for us , is a good idea ! The 1.4 billion population of India is a very bad thing actually.
Based on 10yrs of experience, although its not much but i would say, no company will have any emotions with you.. they are simply paying for what you are doing..but harse truth is still we indians are kind of GULAM of clients by simply saying yes for everything.. we have to change this attitude... if no one supports then switch the company and stay for at max 15 yrs and have solid or atleast survival money and move on to another business where u and ur family feel more happiness instead of this gulami and all... life is short and spend time with family and do work where you are more happy... but for that you have to create money in 15 yrs in IT...
After careful consideration being placed and passed out student from a clg, ill leave it and choose better career options, i can't study all time all day i have bigger responsibilities other than only studying to get doomed one day
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I am 49 years architect and product lead in top service based company for last 25 yeaes. Being responsible for learning and hiring these are my suggestions for 25 to 40 above professionals. 1. Try to be among top performer 5 to 10 percent of the employees. 2. Improve your communication skill and maintain excellent relation with your colleagues. Try to be in office and avoid WFH. Face to face communication help you to build professional and personal relations. Try to help others and contribute to solve other problems. 3. Be disciplined and serious of your work. 80 percentage of the current generation are not serious abt the work and deadline. If work is assigned to you ,manager should not ask status,try to complete beforehand with high qualiyy. 5. Learn new technology and be expert in multiple skill. Client and company appreciate who understand muliple technology and thik holistic
I did all of this and yet my Indian coworkers, management, and the HR killed my career. People who gossiped all day or were troublemakers were promoted and growing in their career. There were many things I (and my community) had no knowledge about --- racism, Indian casteism, Indian murder house culture, etc. Today, when I look back to understand the Indian behaviour meted out to me/us, it's Talibanism, racism, casteism, politicking mind, and attempt to murder me that they practiced with me.
3:59 this is the kind of idiot advice you want to avoid. IT especially in India has a lack is in depth hands on skill because everyone wants her be a manager after 35
Yes it is right. I am not having idea of IT, but for other fields like civil, Instrumentation, mechnical as they get experience there is more value. May be due to getting that sort of experience is tough and difficuilt.
Majority of IT guys are entering into 30s/40s but there are not many openings available in higher hierarchy (reference pyramid structure). Worst, higher positions are hardly open for hiring. I’d blame the youth as all switched to IT as an career, and now with automation - all these guys are facing tough time to survive.
India is spoiled by US money inflows, everyone ran after IT and nobody is interim mechanical and civil engineering, we are in service and will always be busy keeping our clients company and country happy, a never ending slavery.. The companies we work for they work for, mechanical and civil giants of USA. India is Spoiled brat now and will suffer, with population and career
In my opinion, domain knowledge is the key. IT is only platform which provides a complete access for learning domain knowledge to common developers. I would suggest to young generation to plan your life well in advance and drive your jobs accordingly so that your expertise will make you indispensable.
Take risks early in career and you can do real good. I got laidoff twice in 2008 nd 2010.At 40 i have worked in world class companies nd currently a Director in Oracle India. Most of the people i manage are senior to me in age but junior in term of smartness nd research as well as thorough understanding of business! Do your work differently and make a name for yourself... set good examples!
I am senior developer lead, trying to make my way as an architect right now in a MAANG company, i had to work very hard for where I am and I am a new mom. The only thing that keeps you going in IT or any other industry is the zeal to learn and being flexible to every technology that comes your way and gain perfection in that technolgy. A person who works only one company never learns the ifs and buts about an industry. you have to also maintain a healthy switch rate.
IT industry takes huge people & Layoff brutally huge people. Its project based industry, once project is completed, you come to bench & then layoff brutally.
Bro, every project based engineering discipline is like this, for example, civil engineering, and to some extent electrical engineering. But there are some engineering disciplines where job continues, like Chemical engineering, mechanical engineering etc.. Why there so many people in IT? Because it is a “quick money” kind of job and it can be done remotely, so a person sitting in remote village of India, can earn in $$$ which, when converted to Rupees, are more money than any other field.
it is just 10-15 yrs of job in which u have to be wise and smart with money but seeing this generation partying hard on weekends and being a heavy consumer only god can save them from a dark future.
True bro I am 7 year experience java developer working in MNC as team lead I got laidoff wherr from next month I am thinking for marry, so worst time for me 😢
Private jobs are becoming less reliable year by year. There is no permanent position in private jobs. The need of the industry today is 5 to 10 yeas experience guys only in any industry. The unproclaimed new rule is that the retirement age now is 45 to 50 years. That's being done in the name of layoffs. So dont waste your life being a slave to private companies & techie jobs. You will end up with BP, sugar, asthma, arthrities, sinus, vision problems, obesity, poor eating & sleeping habits in your 40s. These health problems are enough to drain away all your hard earnings & savings for the rest of your life.
@@archanasweety7923 if you have a very good technical expertise and can solve complex new problems in an optimal way, you will be always valued and you will never feel any threat from people who are junior. Even if the junior person is really good then you can help the person reach your level without feeling threatened.
@@archanasweety7923 I guess it's a mindset of Indian service companies to keep reduce cost. Companies like Google, Meta, Apple, Microsoft really values experience
If you are married and your marriage is a success, then you will not become lonely in life, because IT industry is where humans are treated as use and throw tissue papers.
I completely disagree with that Manual testing, you can't automate a scenarios without test that first from Manual Testing. and the business scenarios and then complete analysis from a human creative mind that is can't done from AI at least for now or within 15 years.
@@rayyanabdulwajid7681 Bro no body has seen the future be practical but the Manual testing is done from a perspective of the project, domain knowledge and human creative mind for any AI these things is next to impossible well we are using automation for regression but why not the automation even replaced manual because of these too bro so be practical.
This is all Bullshit . Due to advent of chat gpt , copilot etc no one who has right mind would hire freshers . Big tech companies would rather buy licences of code generators , ai tool and give them to their experienced staff . Peope who are thinking like this guy that it will not affect anyone that much are just folling themselves .
Bhai reality to ye hai ki 40 age me bad koi outputs nahi aata hai company ko , company sochati hai ki phalatu ke paisa kayu du , management ke name par , lekin ye apna network kayu nahi banaye itna din me , Mai bhi 3 years se it me apna khud ka company bhi open kiya hua aur jobs bhi karta hu work from home Sare it ke person ko apna start up ke bare me sochana chahiye kayuki mnc wale bhi package dete hai to bahut kam hota hai itna paisa to aap freelancer, aur aap khud ka small start kar ke earn kar sakte hai
ppl who have just started their career shud have knowledge in IT & non-IT domains..dont rely only on IT domains unless you know you are going to create new OS or open AI+++
I got laid off twice in last 15 yrs of IT career in US. These were blessings for me in disguise. After last layoff, I joined a FAANG company, and now promoted to Principal Architect role.
"I've witnessed a unique trend in the IT industry over my 20-year career, one that diverges from common perceptions. Today's young professionals, often fresh from prestigious institutions like IIT, enter the field with a strong desire to engage in core development work. However, this aspiration typically lasts only 2 to 3 years. Soon, external pressures mount - from peers, family, and their social circle - driving them towards managerial roles. The prevailing belief in the industry is that significant salary increases only occur when one ascends to a managerial position. Consequently, many IT professionals feel compelled to rapidly climb the corporate ladder, aiming for leadership roles within a few years of joining. However, this transition to management comes with its pitfalls. Many lose touch with the very technology that drew them to the field. Yet, in an industry as dynamic as IT, maintaining technological proficiency is crucial. Continuous learning and skill enhancement aren't just recommended; they're necessary. It's a daily commitment to stay relevant and effective in this ever-evolving landscape."
Guys, if you are in top 10% at any time in any organization at whatever cost, you are in top 10% because you are better than other 90%. Now its very basic that other 90% are getting something because of these 10%. So if you are really good at whatever you do, you don't need to worry about your career. The day you start moving from top 10% to top 20% and then so on, you are doomed. So try to be the best in your tech/role than 90% others, you will be saved.
In my last company, many in the top 10% were laid off in the name of cost cutting. They were drawing high salaries so they were fired to save cost, period. Similar cases were observed in faang companies recently as well. Your conclusion is correct but a bit outdated.
@@shantanugawade9121 even those who were not in the top 10% and got fired are not jobless either. I am not sure what point are you trying to prove living in the 20's 🤦♂️
@@chetanshukla768 My only point was to emphasize on honing skills rather than worrying too much about things which are not in our hands. Indian IT market is relatively younger than outside market, we started somewhere in 90s and even if someone has started career in 90s, he/she/whatever is not retired yet, so statistically IT employees doesn't seem to retire. Same statistics shows that it's difficult to get a job after 40 and as human beings are much curious about negative things, these type of videos spread fear than help.
Every month 10 lacks students Graduates, so in IT resources are more,and demand is less , even if you have high skills set, get ready to work with underpay salary,
Losers prepare for govt jobs. I have seen so many people who are unemployed at 30 as they can't crack govt job. They are in depression and cry when I meet them. I am into software and make lot of money, they will never make this much money. Stop giving false advice
@@shashwattripathi11 yes Many IITian , NITians , Medical Graduates , DU top colleges graduates are Loosers in your opinion who are preparing for Govt Jobs ( UPSC , State PCS, RBI grade B etc). GREAT thoughts. Actually people who are working in Private sector and can't compete for a coveted govt job seat, have this kind of opinions
Mostly reserved category students opt for Govt. jobs from these colleges and some of those are weak and tired in their studies.@@bitpat81. Govt jobs do not add much value to the economy and if everyone is a government servant in that case we will be next Argentina.
I have read all the comments. Sadly, these people here are- 1. Very adamant about learning new things. 2. No broad mindset 3. Live for the day mentality 4. Blaming family responsibilities to learn new things 5. Not open to adapting to change! 6. Blaming companies for hiring young talent instead of retaining the older aged staff! 7. Paranoidal about moving from company to company. Comforting their position due to the relationship with the PM. 8. Blaming AI that it will take over. With these mindset and old school issues, we cannot go anywhere. Information Technology demands constant upgrade of knowledge!
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Hemant sir, now proportion of mike and chair absolutely right and video is very informative 🎉🎉🎉
Thank You Hemant for having me on the Podcast. It was a great conversation and hope the audience will find it useful as well :)
23:30 I beg to differ. SME's are likely to be replaced by LLM's. Today someone with zero knowledge about a specific domain can use LLM's to identify and rectify problems. Also with equals like Private GPT and even Open AI for corporates, there are ways in which LLM helps give recommendations based on the companys knowledge bank. So not sure what SME's would be doing in that case?
Anand has no vision but lots of experience. So he is explaining what olders already know, and youngsters don't care. Ppl working with Anand will run away to USA and never return. Very inspiring manager. Pls retire
Generalised & tech problem solving talk. Thanks.
The truth is, after 40 there is a cost involved for the individual, you choose career or family. I think most men suffer in their 40's. The most messy phase of life. No one understands you, neither wife, kids nor parents. Sadly micro family is a failure and thats the core issue.
What is your age ?
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@@jsr5773 I think the term used for that phase is called Mid-life crisis and on top of it we need to compete.
This phase is called "Mid career crisis" which everyone has to deal irrespective to his position and domain.
I'm still powerful 💪. And I will continuously pray to God to make me happy and f.. These companies. I will suggest you to write and share your experience as much as you can. These company owners will be punished definitely
Even if you keep learning new tech after 35 or 40 years age. Still there will be young talent who will be more cost effective . So the point is with increasing age, your chances to survive will always be low and will keep reducing
Edit
1 : keep investing and make a big portfolio.
2 : think about having another source of income along with your IT job salary.
Correct
Absolutely correct 💯
Salaries for top 1% in IT is quite high, so as you can easily achieve financial independence by age of early 40s
Apart from reasonable skills, Playing Office Politics to ones advantage and also networking with people up the hierarchy is the most important skill needed for survival and thriving in corporate world
At least in a new technical skill, both experienced person after 35 or 25-26 years with 3-4 years workex are at a same level...bcos both have just knowledge and no experience...This is how the manager views it
it is very sad that after studying so much ,,, still our 40's is not secure ...😮😮
That’s life and natural!
It matters.
Think about IAS or IPS.
We are not going to study @ UPSC level
Im in IT for 24 yrs. I have worked in 6 countries, im 48 and i suffered two layoffs.
Don't worry, learn new things on the job.
My style is, look for long , slow running activities, more people intensive activities and try to optimise it. You dont have to learn new things. Just try to optimise what you do on daily work. You will survive at work for long.
Im still hands on coding.
AI can be done even in Microsoft EXCEL. AI is a concept , as i gave an example above, find the problem, identify repeated problem, solve it, monitor it. You will be a star in your office.
Jai Hind.
what happens after 40 year of age?
if i learn java development then will i stay relevant for longer time?
easier said than done.
@@username_0_0he is saying he has done it
That's a simplistic view.. most companies with AI capital will jettison most applications for newer more inciteful ones
The problem is continuous learning. I mean continuous learning sounds good when you are young. But when you age, it's very difficult to study everyday. But in IT, everyday study is required these days because of AI. And when you age, you have responsibilities which will give you less time. So responsibilities, growing age, less energy, less studying time will lead to chaos.
Agree it’s always a moving target and now things are changing much faster then what it was decade ago.
Yes
Correct and this simple common sense can't understand by these Guys
@@rohitbhatia6909bro iam neet 3year dropper sadly I didn't get seat but I got bams in govt clg and iam thinking to join bca what's your suggestion bro
Don’t join it. If you age, your life is spoiled in it. Worst field. I work for 10 yrs. my age is 40. No one is willing to take. No marriage also.
Thanks a lot Hemant for inviting me to the Podcast.
These Corporate topics are close to my heart and I will be glad if this discussion helps even 1 person in the audience.
Eager to know the feedback from the Audience :)
Sir i hve govt job lekin main usko chod kar it me aana chahta hun...... Meri salary hai 35 k...... Lekin main soch rha hun it me ye.... 60k v rhegi to chalega.... Kya main sahi hun
@@Arunsharma-dv8hl which govt job do u have ?? which profile??
It was an amazing experience having a podcast with you. And I am sure our viewers will learn a lot from you.
Regards
at time 24:20 what do u mean by "combination of domain and technolgy"
Thank you for sharing the insides. It is a wake-up call... very truly said. I wish I had come across this video well before.
I have 18 years of experience and due to Internal business policy, I had to change my process. Now I am assigned to the Internal IT Help Desk Team and doing entry-level work. Please advise me on how to take my career further and grow up.
I’m a senior developer in Bengaluru at 45. At a SME/ Architect level. Just make you’re self capable to guide juniors. It’s about expertise and interest.
I'm B. Tech CS 2nd year student please give me some guidance sir
@@artbyshiv910 These days I see students focus too much on "Coding Skills". I rather suggest you focus on fundamentals - Data structure, Computer Architecture, OS, Compiler Design etc.
@@pangolinkumar2329 it happened only because companies nowadays put way too much emphasis on competitive coding for hiring freshers. they copy faang badly and then wonder why someone who is super duper good in solving known cp problems has poor documentation and lacks foundational knowledge.
Arre penguin bhaiya kya baat
@@chetanshukla768 😂🤣😂😂
Never Leave your technical knowledge, it's the only thing that saves you after 40 years.
I am 66 years old IT professional in the USA ( From a good school IIT New Delhi); been laid off three times; bounced every time; presently a cybersecurity professional; keep your skills updated, maintain your soft skills, and be good in networking with your professional peers;
@PratikChaudhari-xt6ww there is none in the US; as long as I have enough skills I can keep working in the U.S.; every time I go to India, to lecture on cybersecurity as a volunteer at Engineering colleges, they bring up age, I politely reply.
I am into IT with 25 yrs exp, worked in US, Singapore & India. Settled in Singapore.
Trust me all those young ppl, focus on strong coding skills with cryptographic, algorithms etc and make sure you have strong foundation, you should be fine and flying carrier. Ppl play politics when they know they cannot survive or find a job.
Cred, Physicswala ..such Startups lack experience and expertise, and hence, they are in huge 📉 losses. Kunal Shah, Cred owner, has always been an unsuccessful entrepreneur. His failure portpolios are Snapdeal, Cred, RechargeNow, etc. All are his flop projects and burnt investors' money and time. He shouldn't be a role model.
Actually people in their 40s shouldn't worry if they've been smart so far with their money management. They've worked for about 15 years and have another 10 to 15 years to go. If they've used their salary so far to invest and create a good corpus with good asset allocation, then they shouldn't worry. But if they haven't been smart with their money, they will struggle and this is what we see with most today. There's no point of upgrading yourself with more knowledge if you don't manage your money properly. So, one skill that most IT people should attain is money management. All this upgrading and learning new technology will only help their employers and not them. Make salary irrelevant in your 40s with an investment corpus so big that you can throw the resignation on your manager and walk away. Unfortunately, most people can't do it.😊
This comment should be pinned!
“Upgrading yourself only helps your employer…”. Bang on!
Yes I'm 31 and I have exactly this goal.
Sara gyan victim ko doge kya? Ab mere sawalo ka javab do.
Companies ne khud ko upgrade kiya?
Apna programming language banaya?
Apna operating system banaya (except ISRO)?
Apna social media banaya?
Apna chatgpt jaisa kuch banaya?
Musibat aati hai to Indian ban jate hai.
IT companies are behaving like bollywood. Dekhte jao ab kya kya hota hai.
Good 👍
@@collectiveconscious3956lol they are choo tiyas in upgrading new stalker everyday around you so that the so called cheep executive aappecer can get his daughter f**ked , bodi ji sends lot of people close to you , I feel that he has lot of close moments with aappeecher , what technology you talk about, its sh$$ going on within , bullying and castism , groupism is like even daud gangs are waste
The way he is speaking, it is clear that he did lot of politics at his office 😂😂
Priority to implement AI is in Government Jobs to eliminate corruption, quick solutions, high efficient productivity with accuracy and quality.
I'm glad when the youth talk about AI. I will write up a separate post and I fully agree with you!
This is true. Myself faced it. It is extremely depressing. It has made me sit back and wonder what next, and i hsve still not figured it out. Dont have business sense. And yes I am an introvert. I was being pushed into management... which i hated though mostly everyone appreciated my work ethic, because i believe in giving clear expectations and then i dont nag or interfere. However, frankly management takes not much talent except clear decision making. A lot of people undervalue this skillset. Then they make foolish people as managers and cycle continues. Basically in a cost cutting environment, middle management layer easily gets axed. I hate that i don't know how to earn independently. I am very impressed by UA-camrs, but i dont wish to face the camera. I also find social media too toxic. People just go around being negative thoughtlessly but it affects your mental health. I am not blaming anyone. This is reality. If u have not been good at politics to rise to higher management then your age will play against you in middle management roles. I wish everyone of us in this predicament find a way out. I am still trying to be hopeful...but its tough keeping a positive look. Worry creeps in, while savings deplete. And more thsn anything...being discarded like this....affects your self confidence.
Please see my response in comments to know how to differentiate yourself.
Hope it helps.
An engineer with 15 years of coding experience is not same as 8 years one. He is 10x developer while 8 years one would be happy adding few lines of code here and there, retrofit unit test cases etc. , he does not have depth to build the frameworks that different tenants would use eventually. These 20 years coders are gems
8:00 jab seekhna hi hai to Indian IT company ke liye kaam hi kyo kare khud ka kaam na kar le? Aakhir Indian IT company ne aisa kon sa innovation kar diya? Amazon ka cloud☁️ hai. Google ka Gcp hai, Microsoft ka OS hai aur cloud☁️ bhi hai. Programming language hai, map hai , yt hai. Puraane big IT companies ne diya kya hai? Except Indian Startups and Indian Doctors
Former HR manager of an IT company here. There's only so much you can learn. So, build an alternative career. Company is going to hire a younger chap because he costs less.
Wow! Is there a shop where we can buy these "alternative careers"??
@@Zigg-d5d 😅😅😅
@@Zigg-d5d 😂
I started in 2003 as a java programmer. I could fully understand nuances of core Java by 2012. By 2014, I could write end to end multithreaded code. By 2017, cloud and microservices took over. But my java skills are still relevant. Being more experienced makes you invaluable. Problem is Indian IT is ruled by shitty service firms like TCS, info etc. And, experienced programmers can't utilize their skills fully in India. If you migrate to US or Europe, you'll make tons of money with experience.
Thats what I wanted to say. Indian IT services companies wanted to run the show with kids. They are less bothered about quality of delivery and innovation (for innovation, they are aquiring foreign companies). And there is one more branch growing in these IT companies is Infra Support (ITIL), where qualified engineers are being utilized for password reset, taking and restoring backups, server management, onboarding and offboarding of employees etc. So the clear message for young IT talent is leave your mother country. After 40, there is very minute possibility that you will get any IT job in India, even if you learn any latest technology. So to survive in your current job, keep attending those useless calls, preparing and presenting those flase 'all green' ppt's and if you have latent of buttering your manager, concentrate on improving that skill :D
@@Connect-To-Ajit Product based firms and investment banks and GCCs are better for long term career as programmer as they develop most of the stuff in-house. And Indian IT firms are definitely going to face stiff competition from them for good talent.
"And, experienced programmers can't utilize their skills fully in India" - make websites for India! YOU HAVE JIO!!
@br0ken_107 I have no idea what you said. If he/she doesn't make websites now, they can learn.....?
They r doing. Same in US 😂
*pls dont spend of costly mobiles and other gadgets, save money from day 1 u start earning....open a ppf account and start saving..dont run behind buying 2nd home....stay with ur parent even after marriage*
I am 50, in IT industry for almost 24 years, i see great value people with 40+ can bring along with their experience, most important is never stop learning something new and bring value to your team and company 👍
Agree
I have been continually learning, upskilling since my college days to date....yet, management never valued it.
@@marmara9741 good point, the skills that you add should be inline with your company path for management to recognise, an IT company might really not appreciate golfing or mountainairing skills of its employees
Salute you. You are really inspired us.
Not possible for an individual
If there are 100 developers in a village, all 100 developers cannot go to high roles even if they have competence.
So the logic is simple. As you age, there are 90 precent chances for 90 precent of the developers to lose job.
But they can create a business instead of working for a company.
Loosing 4 hrs only in traffic by riding on bike..anytime in hyderabad apart from work for 9 hrs
Sleep for 5 hrs
Hospital treatment 1.5 hr
Majority of the public suffering
Tatti consultancy services mein ho kya?
Simple sum up for IT guys: forget about your experience and age. give 30 mins daily for yourself (if possible, during working hours only ) for self learning. Google and youtube always helps.
Need heavy investments , With just job cant survive.
@@iamnoob7593 I have seen people surviving their families in tier 2 cities with 10k-15k monthly income.
Yes, they don't live in 30k rented flats, they don't own a car, they don't go to bars on weekends. They don't even think about vacation. There are extremely good cbse schools having monthly fee of 2000 for students upto 12th in those cities.
If living with luxury is what you call surviving, then you are correct.
Thank you, I use the same way it's kayzen 1% better everyday
@@iamnoob7593😂😂😂
@@iamnoob7593 I have around 43 lakhs invested in mf and stocks. I am 32 and trust me I am living paycheck to paycheck. I struggle a lot at coding and stocks are also not reaping unprecedented returns. I fear losing my job everyday.
A must-watch interview for every fresher in IT industry. I am 25 years into the IT industry and whatever is said here is vital for every guy new to a job.
Kabir Bhaiya agle saal mai core CSE se btech karne ja raha hu so mujhe karna chahiye ya nhi
@@priyanshupandey1431 aur koi option nahi ho to cse karo.
@@priyanshupandey1431 Do it but also get exp. in non -IT field as backup..
I came here for something new....but it's old wine in new mouth....Idealistic, impractical and far away from reality....bookish, oft repeated, trite, banal, common place
@@rastapopolous8446jaise?
Sir, aap businessmans ke saath podcast kab karoge? 😅😅😅😅
Puraane big IT company ne diya kya hai? Software companies matlab videshi companies ki dalali. Ek programming language batao jo ye big IT company ne banaya ho?
😂
Business k liye capital pehle bnalo fir laate hain Businessman podcast pe😂
Thats why I am not leaving TCS 😀
40 years baad Agriculture high demand hoga……..aur Bahut kaam nahi rahega sirf IT hi nahi
40 saal baad kisne dekhe. Waise bhi humari umar kaam karne layak rahegi nahi tab tak. Kaafi toh tab tak iss duniya mein bhi nahi rahenge
khaana sab mehnga hojayega kyuki famers kamm hojayega....aur jo log farming karte rahenge vahi achha paisa kamalega...@@villagenetwork3167
@@chetanshukla768 Are u going to marry before 30
Guys jada daro mat bas confidence rakho aur roz updated raho. Upar wala sab ko deta hai
He look like xavier
😂
I am currently in the same phase exactly 😢 I am 45 year old with 16years of exp , stuck with the sane company for 15years and struggling to get out of it. Dunno how to survive in future no backups too. Due to the laziness and comfort zone stuck to the same job.
On top of that with present market conditions no calls
Your ctc?
@@chetanshukla768 it's 22LPA
It's 20LPA
@@bpatil31 badiya toh hai Sir. Mast tension free raho.
All good points. I can relate to pretty much all of them because I have been through Dev/Lead/Manager positions- one thing is important “Continuous Learning”. It’s so easy to get comfortable and fall behind. Make small achievable goals. Small achievable goals will build a habit and over just 1-2 years will add to your resume and confidence.
Thanks, really appreciate this talk 👏
Reallity :- Kisme me bhi future nahi hai, sirf u tube video banane Mai hai
Toh jaldi se jaldi vdo banana chalu karo 😂
But I am just started learning in my early 40s.. let's see,, will keep learning ..I think there lots of opportunities and nothing to worry about it as long as you keep learning and actioning it 😊
No one mentioned in the comment section here but you should focus on paying off all your debts before 40 including your mortgage. So if companies kick you to the curb at 40 you can easily live off your savings/side income. Materialism is curse and will keep you slave to the system untill you drop dead.
Very interesting and honest conversation. Appreciate bringing these points and having the discussion. It also touch bases upon the entire lifecycle of an IT worker if I put it and plot it against one's age.
What lies beyond is always unknown and the rate of technology change is so fast and mad to keep pace with, it is your character that will be tested in the longer run.
Clients don't get budget from management for repetitive tasks every year. To have continuous work, one needs to show incremental innovations.
IT is the worst market to be in. It will be always competitive. This is the only area where company will not care for you as you get experienced but they will look out to replace you and save cost.
Thank you Hemant and Anand Sir for discussing this topic in detailed.
Glad you found it useful @RSingh23 :)
Root cause of all Problems: Excessive supply and few jobs. Solution: No solution as of now. But ,if possible, Migrate, Migrate, Migrate.... to other countries. There People are still working on many legacy technologies such Main frames, AS 400, SAP etc... from the past 20 years, better work life balance (exceed expectation there is meet expectation here). There One can work as a developer or senior developer throughout the career. Here it's is the pyramid structure and will not allow you to work in the same role.
Don’t join it. If you age, your life is spoiled in it. Worst field. I work for 10 yrs. my age is 40. No one is willing to take. No marriage also.
Yes that’s the bitter truth of this lavish industry that suppose you face any serious health issue in life and away for 1 year then you are useless . This is ruthless industry. If you have to evolve and study even in your 40s then what sort of life a person is living. This industry has also trapped great talent’s because of lucrative fresher salaries, who are much capable of learning more in 20s , can crack difficult exams in 20s when they have energy. But if you get trapped you have to live this shit life for whole life coz everyone is coming in this industry and doing almost similar stuff .
skill issue bro. learn something better and build domain knowledge. if you expect to do only CRUD forever good luck.
Frankly , after 40 years either you should be able to get to a position where you can make minimum 1 crore per year as salary apart from taxes. Or you should be able to retire and live your life with all the savings as pension. I personally want to retire in next 5 to 10 years. Need to clear off my home loans and wanna visit every temple and stay some time in Himachal Pradesh or Uttarakhand where ever I get chance to Live near a serene environment. In IT as per todays cost of living and land rates, you might be hardly buy one home and make some savings. If you are lucky you might be able to buy one additional home and that's it. in INDIA.. Even going to US or UK is not that profitable these days. 1999 till 2010 were great days to go abroad. Now its really of not much use. Cost of living in other nations increased so badly and salaries are not increasing. So My suggestion is to either innovate and make some product , or just do some business etc the point here is to always have plan B. Avoide over spending and save as much as you can, do investments. prepare for retirement. Or else even after 40 years you will struggle for money.
Perfectly said sir 🙏🙏
Earning 1 crore is a something which only a few can earn 🥲...
Well said
Good ❤
People do keep updating and learning, but to what extent. I know people who keep doing certifications every now and then, but when they don't get an opportunity to explore that learning, these learnings just remain on certificate and they dont remember. what they learnt.
it's a very valid point.it's individual responsibility to keep abreast with latest developments in IT, but the companies should also invest in re-skilling and providing new opportunities to their staff to apply these learnings, rather than just hiring a 25 year old or 30 year old who will again look to switch in next one or two years for better pay !
India's IT has bleak future. In the next 10 years, other nations are picking up in terms of their IT skills. We ll have tough competition from these. emerging nations. AI will surely replace many professionals. The work that needs 10 ppl csn now be done with 5 or even lesser people. For a country of India's size, the number of IT professionals who would be replaced would be in Lakhs.
yes it is already at saturation level in india.
agreed
Technology never saturates, people become stagnant. IT is multi decade story and Indians have advantages being ahead in the race already. Keep learning and keep earning.
@@baazarkibaatein prob is that we are not upskilling.
Tu kya kaam krta h Bhai Jo ye bol raha h?
IT industry will keep on increasing gradually, tumhari job nahi lag rhi iska ye matlab nahi h ki IT me kuch issue h.
Issue tujh me h loser, Jo ek achi job bhi nhi crack kr skta.
Quit kar aur Ghar pe apni machuda
Bhaiyaji im in 40 and still able to change company like anything, im an architect never into people management 😂 and i love competition, love to crush it 😊
Best wishes
Sir I am also nearby 40 and nearby 15 years experience. My current company in last 5 years they are not provide any hike. If a front end architect, which skills they are expect? Please guide me sir. I am totally depressed and struggled every day. I don't know What I learn? Everytime I got unexpected questions from the interviewer
@mahendras which technology are you in?
They are talking about IT industry not Architect or Civil engineer in which experience is the main key for salary increase
For the first time I watched a podcast to its full length in one stretch.
Fabulous content 🎉🎉🎉
Looks like he has spent all his life in IT ‘services’ company. His advice on technical skills and hands on role is absolutely wrong.
Good software development only comes from experience look at people’s insights from Western markets from their first hand experience.
You can make tons of money with hands on roles. You will always be valuable and least insecure.
People who become managers in Indian IT services companies they are least useful in the market. Their world view is absolutely wrong.
They are basically unemployable in the US and overall Western countries.
I can this from my first person observation.
He is a typical manager in WITCH companies who is useless outside what he and his company does. 😂
there is no Career after 40 its not true .. we have architects and solution managers etc .. who are over 40 and they are the backbone of the process. evolution is important in IT if you are stuck in day-to-day tasks and do not gain any knowledge you will be out of the system. we lost some recruits who are stuck at one stage ... kam mila he khatam karte bas ho gaya... ye he issue
Why do u need to work in 40s? If u have already screwed ur health by working hard in IT till 40 and saved a hell lot of money.
This is story of everyone in IT in india.
Don't think about job after 40 just do max 10 years job in corporate after that start any business
It is true. Party is over. I have been in IT for 35 years. Golden days are over.
now silver and platinum....you find a reeason no to work...
I don't think you need to worry or bother too much about all these things ! I will give a cliche example - when machines came to replace men in doing muscle work, people complained about losing their jobs - but today new kind of jobs have been created ! So things will evolve , programmers will still be needed to review code written by machines (example) ! Reducing our population, and of course letting machines do much of the dirty work for us , is a good idea ! The 1.4 billion population of India is a very bad thing actually.
Based on 10yrs of experience, although its not much but i would say, no company will have any emotions with you.. they are simply paying for what you are doing..but harse truth is still we indians are kind of GULAM of clients by simply saying yes for everything.. we have to change this attitude... if no one supports then switch the company and stay for at max 15 yrs and have solid or atleast survival money and move on to another business where u and ur family feel more happiness instead of this gulami and all... life is short and spend time with family and do work where you are more happy... but for that you have to create money in 15 yrs in IT...
IT won't have futur. I am listening this past 15 years. Now regret not choosing the IT field earlier
After careful consideration being placed and passed out student from a clg, ill leave it and choose better career options, i can't study all time all day i have bigger responsibilities other than only studying to get doomed one day
After 40, the fight is more about your relevancy.
Hemant bhaiya jab single digit lakhs meh theh tab se follow kar raha hu. Sache ap hum jaise logo ke liye jo kar rahe hey vo vakai meh ek sacha dil ❤️ ka insan hi kar sakta hey. Jaise GIGL app meh stories vaise ye bade logo ke sath podcast se knowledge batna. Ap bohot bade mahan insaan ho 🙏🙏
After seeing these layoffs, I regret my joining the IT industry day by day.
bhai ya total hindi bolo ya total english taaki pata to chale ki yeh hindi channel hai ya angrezi channel
I am 49 years architect and product lead in top service based company for last 25 yeaes. Being responsible for learning and hiring these are my suggestions for 25 to 40 above professionals. 1. Try to be among top performer 5 to 10 percent of the employees. 2. Improve your communication skill and maintain excellent relation with your colleagues. Try to be in office and avoid WFH. Face to face communication help you to build professional and personal relations. Try to help others and contribute to solve other problems. 3. Be disciplined and serious of your work. 80 percentage of the current generation are not serious abt the work and deadline. If work is assigned to you ,manager should not ask status,try to complete beforehand with high qualiyy. 5. Learn new technology and be expert in multiple skill. Client and company appreciate who understand muliple technology and thik holistic
I did all of this and yet my Indian coworkers, management, and the HR killed my career. People who gossiped all day or were troublemakers were promoted and growing in their career. There were many things I (and my community) had no knowledge about --- racism, Indian casteism, Indian murder house culture, etc. Today, when I look back to understand the Indian behaviour meted out to me/us, it's Talibanism, racism, casteism, politicking mind, and attempt to murder me that they practiced with me.
WTF@@marmara9741
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Is this a trend only in INDIA ? That there is no Career in IT after 40 ?
IT job is not a career. It's a sure shot path to making one's life like hell. 😂
3:59 this is the kind of idiot advice you want to avoid.
IT especially in India has a lack is in depth hands on skill because everyone wants her be a manager after 35
When Suryakumar Yadav reaches the age of 50 😂
IT is the shittest industry according to job profile and salary unless and until you are interested in tech and coding.
I support new Indian startup but I will never support old big IT companies.
And if any big company supports any startup then I will feel that startup is their sister company then I will not support that startup
Yes it is right. I am not having idea of IT, but for other fields like civil, Instrumentation, mechnical as they get experience there is more value. May be due to getting that sort of experience is tough and difficuilt.
Majority of IT guys are entering into 30s/40s but there are not many openings available in higher hierarchy (reference pyramid structure). Worst, higher positions are hardly open for hiring. I’d blame the youth as all switched to IT as an career, and now with automation - all these guys are facing tough time to survive.
India is spoiled by US money inflows, everyone ran after IT and nobody is interim mechanical and civil engineering, we are in service and will always be busy keeping our clients company and country happy, a never ending slavery..
The companies we work for they work for, mechanical and civil giants of USA. India is Spoiled brat now and will suffer, with population and career
In my opinion, domain knowledge is the key. IT is only platform which provides a complete access for learning domain knowledge to common developers. I would suggest to young generation to plan your life well in advance and drive your jobs accordingly so that your expertise will make you indispensable.
one of the most funny sectors . Most IT people are clueless about what to do in their spare time
Sleep on time and getup on time is senseless. People slog from 10 am to 3 am. So nothing to talk about time here
Take risks early in career and you can do real good. I got laidoff twice in 2008 nd 2010.At 40 i have worked in world class companies nd currently a Director in Oracle India.
Most of the people i manage are senior to me in age but junior in term of smartness nd research as well as thorough understanding of business!
Do your work differently and make a name for yourself... set good examples!
Sir, you're our inspiration.
I am senior developer lead, trying to make my way as an architect right now in a MAANG company, i had to work very hard for where I am and I am a new mom. The only thing that keeps you going in IT or any other industry is the zeal to learn and being flexible to every technology that comes your way and gain perfection in that technolgy. A person who works only one company never learns the ifs and buts about an industry. you have to also maintain a healthy switch rate.
Thank you for the comment! Actually i was wondering what is considered to be a healthy switching in the industry?
IT industry takes huge people & Layoff brutally huge people. Its project based industry, once project is completed, you come to bench & then layoff brutally.
Bro, every project based engineering discipline is like this, for example, civil engineering, and to some extent electrical engineering. But there are some engineering disciplines where job continues, like Chemical engineering, mechanical engineering etc.. Why there so many people in IT? Because it is a “quick money” kind of job and it can be done remotely, so a person sitting in remote village of India, can earn in $$$ which, when converted to Rupees, are more money than any other field.
it is just 10-15 yrs of job in which u have to be wise and smart with money but seeing this generation partying hard on weekends and being a heavy consumer only god can save them from a dark future.
True bro I am 7 year experience java developer working in MNC as team lead I got laidoff wherr from next month I am thinking for marry, so worst time for me 😢
ChatGPT and generative AI is so powerful it has improved my productivity by a factor of 10 to 20.
Private jobs are becoming less reliable year by year. There is no permanent position in private jobs. The need of the industry today is 5 to 10 yeas experience guys only in any industry. The unproclaimed new rule is that the retirement age now is 45 to 50 years. That's being done in the name of layoffs. So dont waste your life being a slave to private companies & techie jobs. You will end up with BP, sugar, asthma, arthrities, sinus, vision problems, obesity, poor eating & sleeping habits in your 40s. These health problems are enough to drain away all your hard earnings & savings for the rest of your life.
I beg to disagree. I have worked 20 years in top indian company and top FAANG company. I can provide more info if you reach out to me.
Can you elaborate please
@@archanasweety7923 if you have a very good technical expertise and can solve complex new problems in an optimal way, you will be always valued and you will never feel any threat from people who are junior. Even if the junior person is really good then you can help the person reach your level without feeling threatened.
@@archanasweety7923 I guess it's a mindset of Indian service companies to keep reduce cost. Companies like Google, Meta, Apple, Microsoft really values experience
Yes please
I agree with you,if you have technical skills and management skills it's not a big issue.
Areeee GIGL bhaiiii aap hi ho😃 Bhai wohi same Voice
I'm a big fan of your channel GIGL bro. Love you
If you are married and your marriage is a success, then you will not become lonely in life, because IT industry is where humans are treated as use and throw tissue papers.
Mr. Anand shared a very valuable information for the audience. Thanks 👍🙏
I completely disagree with that Manual testing, you can't automate a scenarios without test that first from Manual Testing.
and the business scenarios and then complete analysis from a human creative mind that is can't done from AI at least for now or within 15 years.
So even you are agreeing that things will be good for 15 years. So what happens after 15 years?😂
@@rayyanabdulwajid7681 Bro no body has seen the future be practical but the Manual testing is done from a perspective of the project, domain knowledge and human creative mind for any AI these things is next to impossible well we are using automation for regression but why not the automation even replaced manual because of these too bro so be practical.
This is all Bullshit . Due to advent of chat gpt , copilot etc no one who has right mind would hire freshers . Big tech companies would rather buy licences of code generators , ai tool and give them to their experienced staff . Peope who are thinking like this guy that it will not affect anyone that much are just folling themselves .
Bhai reality to ye hai ki 40 age me bad koi outputs nahi aata hai company ko , company sochati hai ki phalatu ke paisa kayu du , management ke name par , lekin ye apna network kayu nahi banaye itna din me ,
Mai bhi 3 years se it me apna khud ka company bhi open kiya hua aur jobs bhi karta hu work from home
Sare it ke person ko apna start up ke bare me sochana chahiye kayuki mnc wale bhi package dete hai to bahut kam hota hai itna paisa to aap freelancer, aur aap khud ka small start kar ke earn kar sakte hai
ppl who have just started their career shud have knowledge in IT & non-IT domains..dont rely only on IT domains unless you know you are going to create new OS or open AI+++
I was fan of Anand videos, now I am subscriber and fan of Hemant. Thanks for this discussion videos.
Anand is sure good human 🙂
coming 5years there are 60 to 70% of people will be jobless due to AI . people should have Plan B, otherwise it is very difficult the coming future.
This is bull crap , I am 55 years old and working as Top notch architect.
90 % of the top management is above 40 . Stay fit and keep learning. Dont listen to negative BS from random guys 🙏
Our aptitude/quantitative power goes down so our career too, not suitable for IT
I got laid off twice in last 15 yrs of IT career in US. These were blessings for me in disguise. After last layoff, I joined a FAANG company, and now promoted to Principal Architect role.
"I've witnessed a unique trend in the IT industry over my 20-year career, one that diverges from common perceptions. Today's young professionals, often fresh from prestigious institutions like IIT, enter the field with a strong desire to engage in core development work. However, this aspiration typically lasts only 2 to 3 years. Soon, external pressures mount - from peers, family, and their social circle - driving them towards managerial roles.
The prevailing belief in the industry is that significant salary increases only occur when one ascends to a managerial position. Consequently, many IT professionals feel compelled to rapidly climb the corporate ladder, aiming for leadership roles within a few years of joining.
However, this transition to management comes with its pitfalls. Many lose touch with the very technology that drew them to the field. Yet, in an industry as dynamic as IT, maintaining technological proficiency is crucial. Continuous learning and skill enhancement aren't just recommended; they're necessary. It's a daily commitment to stay relevant and effective in this ever-evolving landscape."
Guys, if you are in top 10% at any time in any organization at whatever cost, you are in top 10% because you are better than other 90%. Now its very basic that other 90% are getting something because of these 10%. So if you are really good at whatever you do, you don't need to worry about your career. The day you start moving from top 10% to top 20% and then so on, you are doomed. So try to be the best in your tech/role than 90% others, you will be saved.
In my last company, many in the top 10% were laid off in the name of cost cutting. They were drawing high salaries so they were fired to save cost, period. Similar cases were observed in faang companies recently as well. Your conclusion is correct but a bit outdated.
@@chetanshukla768 yeah, may be I'm living in 1920s, but could you please share more inputs on how many of those 10% are still jobless ???
@@shantanugawade9121 HaHa !
@@shantanugawade9121 even those who were not in the top 10% and got fired are not jobless either. I am not sure what point are you trying to prove living in the 20's 🤦♂️
@@chetanshukla768 My only point was to emphasize on honing skills rather than worrying too much about things which are not in our hands. Indian IT market is relatively younger than outside market, we started somewhere in 90s and even if someone has started career in 90s, he/she/whatever is not retired yet, so statistically IT employees doesn't seem to retire. Same statistics shows that it's difficult to get a job after 40 and as human beings are much curious about negative things, these type of videos spread fear than help.
This is Indian mindset.. but when you go outside I have seen people in 50 still doing coding..
Every month 10 lacks students
Graduates, so in IT resources are more,and demand is less , even if you have high skills set, get ready to work with underpay salary,
Thats why many smart people start preparing for Govt jobs just after their Computer Sci engg / IT engg degrees
Losers prepare for govt jobs.
I have seen so many people who are unemployed at 30 as they can't crack govt job.
They are in depression and cry when I meet them. I am into software and make lot of money, they will never make this much money.
Stop giving false advice
@@shashwattripathi11 yes Many IITian , NITians , Medical Graduates , DU top colleges graduates are Loosers in your opinion who are preparing for Govt Jobs ( UPSC , State PCS, RBI grade B etc).
GREAT thoughts. Actually people who are working in Private sector and can't compete for a coveted govt job seat, have this kind of opinions
@@bitpat81 losers like you waste their 20s in preparation of stupid govt jobs.
Not talking about the upsc but others useless govt jobs.
@@bitpat81only UPSC is good... rest are low paid jobs only... can earn their lifetime salary in 10 years in MNCs.
Mostly reserved category students opt for Govt. jobs from these colleges and some of those are weak and tired in their studies.@@bitpat81. Govt jobs do not add much value to the economy and if everyone is a government servant in that case we will be next Argentina.
technical is better than management
Thanks to both of you for discussing such important aspects of the IT industry. Each & every segment of this podcast is very realistic and relatable.
I have read all the comments. Sadly, these people here are-
1. Very adamant about learning new things.
2. No broad mindset
3. Live for the day mentality
4. Blaming family responsibilities to learn new things
5. Not open to adapting to change!
6. Blaming companies for hiring young talent instead of retaining the older aged staff!
7. Paranoidal about moving from company to company. Comforting their position due to the relationship with the PM.
8. Blaming AI that it will take over.
With these mindset and old school issues, we cannot go anywhere. Information Technology demands constant upgrade of knowledge!
If you show ownership and add value in anything given to you. Nobody gonna Stop you from growing
learn new techology and dont expect more package