Hayibo Ndivhu there is no justifying cheating on your baby mama whilst your child is dying 😢. As Thobeka said it’s not that he cheated it’s the timing of his cheating 😒 .
Ndivhu.... I don't agree with you. I do not care how many sides of this story. The fact that the baby mama quietly focused on her son's battle, just shows what kind of a woman she is. Casper should have been there for his sick son irrespective of how he feel about the mother. Parenting is not a part-time-job.
12:18 but Thobeka is not giving “hurt” and “bitter” she’s simply telling her story of victory. There’s no agenda here lol. She’s simply in her peaceful girl era
True, she has been quiet and now she is telling what she survived and cheating apologists are up in arms bashing her. she was supposed to be quiet while he is busy saying "Jesus this, Jesus that", such hypocrisy
When Ndivhu started to tell us how long she has been married, immediately I knew her husband plays on her head 😂 Her husband cheats so much she has even victimized him and continues to stay in the marriage 😂😂 the part where she said men choose to be fathers but women can't choose and she also didn't choose to be a daughter but here she is because she was abandoned by hers and she understands weeh mma!!!!... Ndivhu needs counseling.. It's so sad to connect the dots and think she might have chose to marry someone almost similar to her dad. That's why she sees nothing wrong with someone betraying someone at both their lowest points and finds reasons why they did it on top of that understand them.
Since she is a huge fan, maybe she could clarify what she is implying for us; it sounds like she has a front-row seat if it is. What a negligent mouth!!. Whatever it is. Her arguments are not at all tangential. I sincerely hope that she does not also think this way every day. rhaa-phoo!
I saw a video of Casper's response to Thobeka's instagram post and my heart broke even more I shed a tear because as a Mom who's constantly had to take care of a sick child I know the sacrifice of having to miss work and other important obligations just to take care of your offspring while the other parent is having the time of his life. To hear someone say yes I broke her but I will share a full testimony of how I found God in my cheating era. He cheated and broke the women he claimed to love, a women who had to stand the test of time. I hate that he says he will share his testimony as if Thobeka was the demon he survived and now he found Jesus and married Jesus daughter. I applaud him for taking responsibility for his part of the infidelity but theres a part where he tries to defend himself by saying maybe Thobeka is not telling the whole story.
1: Alcohol is not a sin being drunk is a sin 2:Thobeka was sharing her victory,she's healing and she's not looking for sympathy 3: Background lady heart of steel
I agree with you, she is not sharing so that we can feel sorry for her and vilify Casper. Her sharing is part of healing. Casper has already confessed, repented and found salvation. We can’t condemn and judge him even after that.
Honestly!🙃 you can tell she’s clueless on what she’s saying.🙄 Cassper did a whole interview on Mpoomy Ledwaba’s channel and confirmed that he was unfaithful
She is the bekezela type, you can tell she shares the same narcissistic personality with Cassper. Manipulating her in laws to take her side when fight with her husband. She is loud and blame shift😢
Thobeka was hoeing herself to andile mpisane and many others during her relationship with Casper. So please don’t speak of things you don’t know. Casper has moved on. He is pulanes husband. She must do the same
@@Vv-fl2rm reading comprehension is not your strongest point🤯🤯 brave of you to assume she hasn’t moved on. People tell their truth decades after moving on. Why are you angry?
@@Vv-fl2rm do you know most of the time a lady can flirt with other men when she has endured more than enough pain and emotionally lonely because her man is emotionally abusive to her?? If she did trust me Casper pushed her.neverthelss thts beside the point...how do you abondon your baby mama when your child is tht ill
Yoo she is bitter and insensitive she isn’t saved that one excusing men from playing their roles what a pick me what more stories does she want after Casper confessed he would leave the ex wife n go have a blast
I disagree with ndivhu. We’ve heard and seen Casper and his wife tell their story. It’s only fair to hear Thobeka’s story. There was nothing manipulative about what she posted. She did what everyone does when it’s their birthday - reflect.
This was exactly what i experienced. Men love to run away in difficult situations. My baby daddy cheated when our son passed on. At our lowest we expect to go through the whole situation with the one primary person (baby daddy). I didn’t care about the cheating, the timing brooo. The timing. When I most needed you.
Ndivhu will leave you in the desert without water 🤞🏾 Haibo! Thobeka was clear, it was not about infidelity BUT THE TIMING THEREOF! Their son was in hospital undergoing chemotherapy. Puleng was flaunting their ferbing during THAT LOWEST TIME OF HER LIFE!!!!!!
Is Ndivhu forgetting that Casper did confess to cheating and being a sex addict on Mpoomy Ledwaba's podcasy? Maybe she should watch and families herself with the interview before the judgement. She reminds me of those people who ask, "what did you do for him to beat you up, how where you dressed when you got rapped"? Im hurting by her judgement as a woman
I am judging him shame I don't care how much he loved his wife he could have waited, ones child is in hospital with cancer and he could go out there and cheat.
Madam speaker the lady you are discussing with i don't know if she listen to reply or. 🤨?! According to me she is replying based on knowing the famous cassper and Judging Thobekile. I don't know both cassper and Thobekile but this i can tell u Thobekile wrote that with a mindful mind and gratitude to God, explaining what she endured. And your friend Madam is talking about AGENDA!! Girl Bye few yrs of Marriage doesn't make u an expect!
People like the lady defending Caspar need to understand that, people are allowed to tell their Story, and that not everybody in the story will be painted in a good light... it doesn't mean the person telling the story has an agenda or is bitter, it's just the truth and the facts aren't gonna make everybody look good.
Grieving an ending relationship while the child is sick is totally different than grieving while you have nothing else to concentrate on. She literally had no time to grieve her failed relationship because she had to concentrate on her child's health. To me a father who's comfortable with hurting the mother is not really a good father. With which mental strength is the mother supposed to take care of the child while her heart is also bleeding? It has just been normalized that women take the slap and carryon being primary caregivers. 😢
Madam speaker u spot on nursing a sick person is emotional draining I'm currently full time care giver of my spouse who had terrible stroke bedridden no support from inlaws I'm alone ngapha grieving for my son .iyhoooo ,. Sisi she doesn't understand when u take care of chronic person with zero moral support from your partner and family .
Thobeka didnt say she wants cassper to marry her. she was telling her story of where she comes from with the child simple so he never thought Thobeka would speak so not every baby mama is bitter
I've seen cancer...I looked after my aunt who lost her battle to it. I can tell you now, Thobeka went through hell. Not that there's a good time to cheat but that one was cruel
One remarkable thing about God is His ability to forgive and forget, as if it never happened. I pray that Thobeka experiences the same grace, peace, and healing. Healing takes time, and everyone processes things in their own way. I’m thankful that God was with her during that challenging period. I’m also incredibly proud of Casper for recognizing his role in her pain. May God continue His transformative work in him.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVED this deliberation, the Pastor’s comment is priceless🔥✊🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🤣😂🤣 INSIGHT means; everything that happens has meaning, moral significance, intellectual value and spiritual authority - Manly P Hall
Ndivhu! The timing was off period, nd Thobeka said that he ( Casper) decided to fix things but she was not ready because he didn't trust him. Therefore there's no agenda here. We all Love Refilwe and the wife but wrong is wrong hle.
The is no way that he has changed from what he was doing when the child was in hospital.he is just taking a break we will come back and tell the wife that she thought marriage will change him
Shuuu Ndivhu💔…it is not about cheating, it the timing of the cheating because the baby is fighting in ICU the other parent uyavukelwa somewhere💔💔 no justification for that
Ndivhu... now l know why l always have some reservation about you. I gave you the benefit of a doubt but today you just confirmed a lot my concerns about you.
Madam speaker you handle this well, being a cancer patient myself, until you walk that road consider yourself blessed, imagine a child, yoooo hope that lady sickness must not relocate her
This other lady is super exhausting!!!! Does she understand breaking news? It's like the weather- A day can have a sunny morning and a rainy evening. Do we now not talk of the damage caused by the rain because we were informed about it?!!!
Women should learn that if you want to have a child, do it for yourself, not because a man wants a child or if you want to keep a man from leaving. Your womb should serve your God-given purpose, not as a gift to others. But remember that as a woman you should always have a plan of how to care for the child you want that much. Let us not play games with our vaginas and wombs. Our bodies are valuable to the preservation of humanity. With that said, I am glad that the lady is now in a good space with her healthy baby. May God keep strengthening her and blessing her so she can raise her child with honor.
That’s not how God ordained it the system Made it like that family values bring out better blessed souls than those of broken homes they create more broken seeds
Ndivhu doesn't speak as a mother or a girl's girl. She can support Cassper while acknowledging that he was wrong. What other side is she searching for when Cass shared his story already. Ebile she must write a book.
The lady in the background has never been hurt? Or she has never found true love or never loved someone hence she’s speaking like that, what she’s saying is Thobeka was suppose to be quiet? What is venting kganthi?
"There's some things we do to push men away". When someone is invested in you he will stay. So rona as Basadi we should always overlook, be on the alert gaurd that we should not trigger men to leave? The truth is prevailing. We shall know Casper for who he is.
Loving this conversation. Aunt Ndhivu is being real. As young as I am (20yrs), that's unfortunately reality ... It does not make what she's saying right, but that's our reality. We do feel sorry for her... Cassper did have a chance to speak yes and by saying what he only said shows that that's just who he is. Thobeka knew Cassper from the beginning, he's been this way, unfortunately there was no exception when it came to her when she needed him... Just choose yourselves ladies. Be selfish. We thank God for the baby though🙏🏾❤happy birthday to her❤
Lol exactly! The general public's response (especially women) is very typical, and tired if I'm being all the way honest. Women think men operate like them. A man will NEVER stop living his life for ANYTHING & ANYONE. Literally. Never EVER. Be it kids, wife, family, parents, etc.
The lady in the background she heartless being a mom watching your baby going through the most and the father who suppose to be there is busy marrying someone else. I hope nothing like this never happened to her😮
I think we need to give Thobeka and Casper a break. They both are in a good place after learning from their mistakes. They are both growing and becoming. Leave them alone. They are way better than most of us. Both of them.
Thobeka knew very well that Casper is a cheater and he was not loyal to her. She should have left him way before even the child got sick. I sympathise with her situation but the truth is it should have been expected
@bridgetteruth4333 honestly which famous person in their right mind would go there ? She can't pronounce alot of words, her skin complexion was close to sols yet her ninjas say it's hyperpigmentation, she said there's no rich people living in soweto, she disregards her sister being a mother always telling us she adopted her son as if she doesn't live with her sister. Or maybe ke dom kop aketsi, bo dineo move on like she's virgin yet she keeps speaking about her ex big guy as if they were married for 7years with 3 children. I dont like her, she has that thing of irritation I cringe
We love the three of them. Cassper has repented, he tried to mend things with her but unfortunately Thobeka couldn't anymore. So he had to continue living and probably he'd sacrificed a girl he loved. And because he was then single, he went back to her. I hope Pulane has also repented and perhaps apologise to Thobeka. Thobeka has healed and that's good.
Ndivhu is 💯 right an addict can’t stop his addiction just because of life situations😂. A drunkard will continue drinking even if he loses his job. A giraffe will not become short just because the tree around are short!
Actually they can especially when they realize they are in the pits.. Many people recovered from addictions when shit hit the fan.. His son's illnesses should've been the one to do that.. I mean how do you get an erection when your own child who's been sick since he was 8months and still is in hospital for 2years.. And u see him hooked up in machines everyday.. Aowa lena ha le na dipelo.. There's no way sex addiction is to be blamed.
@@bridgetteruth4333 you might need to a little bit more research on addiction. Also men don’t associate sex with emotions, hence they can F*ck every hole they see
Whether mommy, daddy, aunt was there or not, as a primary caregiver, it's not easy taking care of a sick person, jwale wa cancer I bet it even worse... I think the mommy is stating the insensitivity that Casper had at such a sensitive time of their child's life... Soo sooo sad
No. Listen to comprehend. She's not being insensitive about the matter. She's just pointing how we should be neutral with the situation. As we don't know the truth!!
@@kagisotamia5601 Ma'am! We're talking about a woman who survived the pain of infidelity and her child going through cancer, and you somehow think it’s okay to spew contradictions and insensitive nonsense? It’s clear you’re not even trying to understand the gravity of her situation. Instead of trying to sound clever, maybe you should take a step back and show some basic human empathy. Your lack of respect for someone’s suffering is honestly shocking.
IAM 100% WITH NDIVHU......I UNDERSTAND WHERE SHE S COMING FROM. CAN WE LOOK AT A HUMAN BEING FIRST BEFORE WW TAKE SIDES, CASPER CLEARLY WASN'T IN A GOOD SPACE TOO AND HE IS ADMITTING & TAKING ACCOUNTABILITY AND HE IS WORKING ON HIMSELF. CAN WE ALL HEAL
I’m with Ndivhu when it comes to this. I don’t like the being used and unfortunately I stopped believing everything with the me too movement 😂😂😂. I’m a woman living in SA and I see through their gimmicks shame. I’m saying this while raising my 13 year old daughter whose father never contributed anything. He actually told me to have an abortion. Now I’m not saying Thobeka is not right or those vibes of welcome to our world etc. etc. what I’m saying is I also had a part in what happened. Infact the ball was entirely in my court and I should’ve chosen my child’s father well. Unfortunately I am also to blame
Unfortunately it doesn’t work like that way my angel, as heterosexual women we are naturally and biologically attracted to men. We’ll always be attracted to men no matter how bad they are and we won’t stop holding them accountable just because of the nature of attraction. No ways. Wrong is wrong and it will be called out. And we will date and marry again tomorrow and the day after. That’s life
@@lovehlatsee6589no sisi we have agency! We have gifts & talents our purpose is much bigger than tying yourself to a man! Many miss their calling & greatness because of the over marketing & romanticisation of partnering with men especially the wrong one, they are not any womans lifeline unless she chooses so
@@lovehlatsee6589 so you're saying you can't live without them😅😅finally a woman is honest. If you still want to try then it means that they are not bad as you say.
@@dikeledimmola3971 no sweetheart, we just heal and move on. Not everyone develops a bitter heart and chooses to hold on to bad experiences, because at the end of the day HUMANS are inherently bad. Not just men
😂😂😂 loved it… further more we need to acknowledge that we are the creators of these men! They come from women of anything we are their gods. So we need to raise our children respecting men also she let him behave like that we have to take accountability it’s our wombs we need to respect ourselves and not have babies with men who disrespect us!
The ghost lady ?? Are you okay?? No matter what happened in the relationship he cannot abandoned his responsibilities as a father!! This is not about his romantic relationship with Thobeka, it’s about his responsibilities as a father and neglected his OWN child when he was dealing with cancer
Cassper has admitted multiple times times before he got saves ...he was a serial cheater. I'm not sure the lady on the back round ..why he is blaming Thobeka...she is cruel
Ms. Background Lady: NO. There’s this thing called TIMING. If this man would leave his child and the childs mother in the shadow of death what will he do with anybody else? Him hurting that childs main caretaker HARMS THE CHILD. Sies. HIS baby was dying MEANWHILE he’s out there eating cat, chasing skirts? Voetsek forever.
He already said his truth, maybe go listen to that. He already said he cheated, Pulane already said she was there during Bex's time. There is no other truth.
@@AkaniMuchavi He already confirmed it's true,he was not there for his son. He cheated,and Pulane said they have been on and off since 2018. Caspper responded today. What else is there to say? She didn't accuse him of anything he didn't say himself.
So from what ndivhu is saying I would like to hear her opinion about people who come to the internet and say I was raped by so and so. Does she have the same opinion that people are coming to the internet to push a certain narrative?
We woman must accept that we are not mans piorities hle man can leave a woman a pregnant and never feel a pain , Moruti must go back to the scriptures , the bible says do not be drunk with wine it is only a sin if you are a priest
Men teach us everything we need to know about them but we always chose to wear blind folds. But in this case I think it's okay to sympathize with Sis😢 sometimes enlightenment comes after pain.
I salute Thobeka's circle who never said a word about what's going on, they managed to keep it a secret. That's a good circle of friends and family
Absolutely love this❤ Talk about having real numbers!!!
I'm fascinated by Madam Speaker's mind-this lady is something else. Her intelligence is truly impressive
Say that again..
She is such a smart,smart woman 😢❤❤🎉
Preach
She's something else🔥🔥🔥
Hayibo Ndivhu there is no justifying cheating on your baby mama whilst your child is dying 😢. As Thobeka said it’s not that he cheated it’s the timing of his cheating 😒 .
Even if there's 7 sides to a story, how do you get married when your son is in hospital, with a life threatening disease 😮😮yoh.
One thing about Man, they will choose themselves. They are self-serving. I wish Thobeka everything beautiful .
You sound like a woman whose heart broken. Some one let you down sorry shame you sound beater get a life
The sooner women learn MEN DO NOT CARE the sooner they can make wiser decisions..some of us learnt befor marriage n babies thanx to God🙏🏾
Ndivhu.... I don't agree with you. I do not care how many sides of this story. The fact that the baby mama quietly focused on her son's battle, just shows what kind of a woman she is.
Casper should have been there for his sick son irrespective of how he feel about the mother. Parenting is not a part-time-job.
I love how Madam speaker called out Ndivhu for being an apologist
12:18 but Thobeka is not giving “hurt” and “bitter” she’s simply telling her story of victory. There’s no agenda here lol. She’s simply in her peaceful girl era
Indeed she is and celebrating he thriumph
I agree
True, otherwise she would have done so sooner and on an important day to her ex
True, she has been quiet and now she is telling what she survived and cheating apologists are up in arms bashing her. she was supposed to be quiet while he is busy saying "Jesus this, Jesus that", such hypocrisy
But why did she feel the need to do that..l mean we all have exes
When Ndivhu started to tell us how long she has been married, immediately I knew her husband plays on her head 😂 Her husband cheats so much she has even victimized him and continues to stay in the marriage 😂😂 the part where she said men choose to be fathers but women can't choose and she also didn't choose to be a daughter but here she is because she was abandoned by hers and she understands weeh mma!!!!... Ndivhu needs counseling.. It's so sad to connect the dots and think she might have chose to marry someone almost similar to her dad. That's why she sees nothing wrong with someone betraying someone at both their lowest points and finds reasons why they did it on top of that understand them.
Ndihivu is that how you think everyday😳❤️🩹yooooh
She's a cassper fan, through and through.
Pathetic
So dumb🚮
I was asking myself the same question.and madam is still allowing her to keep on speaking
Since she is a huge fan, maybe she could clarify what she is implying for us; it sounds like she has a front-row seat if it is. What a negligent mouth!!. Whatever it is. Her arguments are not at all tangential. I sincerely hope that she does not also think this way every day. rhaa-phoo!
I saw a video of Casper's response to Thobeka's instagram post and my heart broke even more I shed a tear because as a Mom who's constantly had to take care of a sick child I know the sacrifice of having to miss work and other important obligations just to take care of your offspring while the other parent is having the time of his life. To hear someone say yes I broke her but I will share a full testimony of how I found God in my cheating era. He cheated and broke the women he claimed to love, a women who had to stand the test of time. I hate that he says he will share his testimony as if Thobeka was the demon he survived and now he found Jesus and married Jesus daughter. I applaud him for taking responsibility for his part of the infidelity but theres a part where he tries to defend himself by saying maybe Thobeka is not telling the whole story.
1: Alcohol is not a sin being drunk is a sin
2:Thobeka was sharing her victory,she's healing and she's not looking for sympathy
3: Background lady heart of steel
Thobeka is sharing her story ; and it does not stop people’s life. Why are we quick to condemn
I agree with you, she is not sharing so that we can feel sorry for her and vilify Casper. Her sharing is part of healing. Casper has already confessed, repented and found salvation. We can’t condemn and judge him even after that.
Yes i agree with you. The Bible say if someone is in sorrow .give him alcohol so that he can forget his sorrow
This is lady is defending NONSENSE!
Casper once confirmed that he was unfaithful to Thobeka.
Honestly!🙃 you can tell she’s clueless on what she’s saying.🙄 Cassper did a whole interview on Mpoomy Ledwaba’s channel and confirmed that he was unfaithful
She is the bekezela type, you can tell she shares the same narcissistic personality with Cassper. Manipulating her in laws to take her side when fight with her husband. She is loud and blame shift😢
The defender herself cheated on her husband
@@EMdee1986againhay, isgaxa 😭
She is the part of the problem this Lady
Ndhivu just because you are manipulator doesn’t mean Thobeka is. She was literally sharing her victory story and Cassper admitted to cheating
Thobeka was hoeing herself to andile mpisane and many others during her relationship with Casper. So please don’t speak of things you don’t know. Casper has moved on. He is pulanes husband. She must do the same
@@Vv-fl2rm reading comprehension is not your strongest point🤯🤯 brave of you to assume she hasn’t moved on. People tell their truth decades after moving on. Why are you angry?
@@Vv-fl2rmwhere is the proof of this ?? Just lies
@@Vv-fl2rm do you know most of the time a lady can flirt with other men when she has endured more than enough pain and emotionally lonely because her man is emotionally abusive to her?? If she did trust me Casper pushed her.neverthelss thts beside the point...how do you abondon your baby mama when your child is tht ill
Yoo she is bitter and insensitive she isn’t saved that one excusing men from playing their roles what a pick me what more stories does she want after Casper confessed he would leave the ex wife n go have a blast
I disagree with ndivhu. We’ve heard and seen Casper and his wife tell their story. It’s only fair to hear Thobeka’s story. There was nothing manipulative about what she posted. She did what everyone does when it’s their birthday - reflect.
Exactly 💯💯
She is crazy, she should have just shutup
This was exactly what i experienced. Men love to run away in difficult situations. My baby daddy cheated when our son passed on. At our lowest we expect to go through the whole situation with the one primary person (baby daddy). I didn’t care about the cheating, the timing brooo. The timing. When I most needed you.
The lady in the background sounds like those ladies who blame rape victims for being raped.. Very cold hearted.
Pickmeisha
Uyangingita nje kwekucala, she makes me so mad
Indeed
true true
Very true
Ndivhu will leave you in the desert without water 🤞🏾 Haibo!
Thobeka was clear, it was not about infidelity BUT THE TIMING THEREOF! Their son was in hospital undergoing chemotherapy. Puleng was flaunting their ferbing during THAT LOWEST TIME OF HER LIFE!!!!!!
Ndivhu are you ok?
Thobeka is telling her story
I doubt her statements were psychologically off broken sounds of a broken woman
Is Ndivhu forgetting that Casper did confess to cheating and being a sex addict on Mpoomy Ledwaba's podcasy? Maybe she should watch and families herself with the interview before the judgement.
She reminds me of those people who ask, "what did you do for him to beat you up, how where you dressed when you got rapped"? Im hurting by her judgement as a woman
I am judging him shame I don't care how much he loved his wife he could have waited, ones child is in hospital with cancer and he could go out there and cheat.
Madam speaker the lady you are discussing with i don't know if she listen to reply or. 🤨?! According to me she is replying based on knowing the famous cassper and Judging Thobekile. I don't know both cassper and Thobekile but this i can tell u Thobekile wrote that with a mindful mind and gratitude to God, explaining what she endured. And your friend Madam is talking about AGENDA!! Girl Bye few yrs of Marriage doesn't make u an expect!
She is irritating
She's not making sense Shem.
She sounds like someone who is a fan of Casper.
People will hurt you and get baptised😢 yho this Faith thing is scarry
😂😂😂😂
😂😂 I tell you! And make the most beautiful sermons!
U just forgive. The lord will deal with the matter accordingly
@@Belz502iyo that’s hard
for all have sinned, that is Christians and none Christians. baptism does not mean someone will stop sinning. that depends on the person
Boity once said Cass cheated with his childhood sweetheart that's why they broke up..vele they are perfect together...miss P has always been there 😢
People like the lady defending Caspar need to understand that, people are allowed to tell their Story, and that not everybody in the story will be painted in a good light... it doesn't mean the person telling the story has an agenda or is bitter, it's just the truth and the facts aren't gonna make everybody look good.
I’m really questioning Ndivhu’s reasoning 😨
She's stressing me yhoooo
Me too
There's a man in her life that she's an apologist for. It's not Casper she's defending.
@@sandradube4456 That's hypocrisy though
Grieving an ending relationship while the child is sick is totally different than grieving while you have nothing else to concentrate on. She literally had no time to grieve her failed relationship because she had to concentrate on her child's health. To me a father who's comfortable with hurting the mother is not really a good father. With which mental strength is the mother supposed to take care of the child while her heart is also bleeding? It has just been normalized that women take the slap and carryon being primary caregivers. 😢
we are glad she finally got the courage to speak her truth...
Madam speaker u spot on nursing a sick person is emotional draining I'm currently full time care giver of my spouse who had terrible stroke bedridden no support from inlaws I'm alone ngapha grieving for my son .iyhoooo ,. Sisi she doesn't understand when u take care of chronic person with zero moral support from your partner and family .
Thobeka didnt say she wants cassper to marry her. she was telling her story of where she comes from with the child simple so he never thought Thobeka would speak so not every baby mama is bitter
I've seen cancer...I looked after my aunt who lost her battle to it. I can tell you now, Thobeka went through hell. Not that there's a good time to cheat but that one was cruel
Madam Speaker, this lady in the background... 🤮
One remarkable thing about God is His ability to forgive and forget, as if it never happened. I pray that Thobeka experiences the same grace, peace, and healing. Healing takes time, and everyone processes things in their own way. I’m thankful that God was with her during that challenging period. I’m also incredibly proud of Casper for recognizing his role in her pain. May God continue His transformative work in him.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVED this deliberation, the Pastor’s comment is priceless🔥✊🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🤣😂🤣
INSIGHT means; everything that happens has meaning, moral significance, intellectual value and spiritual authority
- Manly P Hall
Ndivhu! The timing was off period, nd Thobeka said that he ( Casper) decided to fix things but she was not ready because he didn't trust him. Therefore there's no agenda here. We all Love Refilwe and the wife but wrong is wrong hle.
The is no way that he has changed from what he was doing when the child was in hospital.he is just taking a break we will come back and tell the wife that she thought marriage will change him
There is no option of being a father, but we take decisions to be a present and active parent
Shuuu Ndivhu💔…it is not about cheating, it the timing of the cheating because the baby is fighting in ICU the other parent uyavukelwa somewhere💔💔 no justification for that
Ndivhu... now l know why l always have some reservation about you. I gave you the benefit of a doubt but today you just confirmed a lot my concerns about you.
Madam Speaker: "What makes you happy? What makes me happy is seeing you happy" 🏃🏾♀️🏃🏾♀️🏃🏾♀️👏🏾
😂😂😂😂😂
He already said he messed up and was a serial cheater.
Timing was wrong
I started judging Casper kudala during boity days Now I’m burying him shem 😂😂,he is a canal Christian and good luck to Pulane
She looks like those who will kill you when you cheat
@@K.amogelo 😅😅
Listening to this, Ndivhu just breaks my heart, yhoo!!
Everyone has options lets not lie. A woman can decide to not be a mother but most don't do that.
I’m with madam speaker on this one…
Being forgiven for our sins doesn't mean we won't be punished for them.
I love the lady in the background, Thobeka had an opportunity to leave ,the first time he cheated.
Madam speaker you handle this well, being a cancer patient myself, until you walk that road consider yourself blessed, imagine a child, yoooo hope that lady sickness must not relocate her
She is so insensitive
@@Zozotyivery insensitive
This other lady is super exhausting!!!! Does she understand breaking news? It's like the weather- A day can have a sunny morning and a rainy evening. Do we now not talk of the damage caused by the rain because we were informed about it?!!!
Like how your mind works, put that so beautifull
Madam speaker's hair and make-up game these days....hai! 👑
“Are Christians supposed to drink castle light? No they need to accept Jesus Christ”… this part killed me 😝😝😝😝😝
Women should learn that if you want to have a child, do it for yourself, not because a man wants a child or if you want to keep a man from leaving.
Your womb should serve your God-given purpose, not as a gift to others. But remember that as a woman you should always have a plan of how to care for the child you want that much. Let us not play games with our vaginas and wombs. Our bodies are valuable to the preservation of humanity.
With that said, I am glad that the lady is now in a good space with her healthy baby.
May God keep strengthening her and blessing her so she can raise her child with honor.
That’s not how God ordained it the system
Made it like that family values bring out better blessed souls than those of broken homes they create more broken seeds
I lost respect for this lady Ndivhu who speaks like this vele😮😮
Ndivhu doesn't speak as a mother or a girl's girl. She can support Cassper while acknowledging that he was wrong. What other side is she searching for when Cass shared his story already. Ebile she must write a book.
The lady in the background has never been hurt? Or she has never found true love or never loved someone hence she’s speaking like that, what she’s saying is Thobeka was suppose to be quiet? What is venting kganthi?
Ndivhu is always trying to be the devils advocate sometimes there is no advocating for the devil.
True there was no need
"There's some things we do to push men away". When someone is invested in you he will stay. So rona as Basadi we should always overlook, be on the alert gaurd that we should not trigger men to leave?
The truth is prevailing. We shall know Casper for who he is.
Loving this conversation. Aunt Ndhivu is being real. As young as I am (20yrs), that's unfortunately reality ...
It does not make what she's saying right, but that's our reality. We do feel sorry for her... Cassper did have a chance to speak yes and by saying what he only said shows that that's just who he is. Thobeka knew Cassper from the beginning, he's been this way, unfortunately there was no exception when it came to her when she needed him...
Just choose yourselves ladies. Be selfish.
We thank God for the baby though🙏🏾❤happy birthday to her❤
Lol exactly! The general public's response (especially women) is very typical, and tired if I'm being all the way honest. Women think men operate like them. A man will NEVER stop living his life for ANYTHING & ANYONE.
Literally.
Never EVER. Be it kids, wife, family, parents, etc.
The lady in the background she heartless being a mom watching your baby going through the most and the father who suppose to be there is busy marrying someone else. I hope nothing like this never happened to her😮
I acknowledge her pain but fight or flight is a real thing. Seems like he chose to run in the face of difficulty. Very sad for her.
The lady who’s playing the devil’s advocate, ma’am no!!!
Yeeeeeeeey i fail to understand
I say yes to her take on this
@@kamogelokoloane5182exactly on what?
I think we need to give Thobeka and Casper a break. They both are in a good place after learning from their mistakes. They are both growing and becoming. Leave them alone. They are way better than most of us. Both of them.
I think to judge Casper for his past his wrong everyone of us has some past what matters is God is now changing him and walking with him
😂😂😂Madam speaker is effortlessly funny.. Please I love her❤❤❤.
Love ur emotional intelligence❤
Thobeka knew very well that Casper is a cheater and he was not loyal to her. She should have left him way before even the child got sick. I sympathise with her situation but the truth is it should have been expected
The isolation era is done, it's time she told her story, at her own time when she was ready. She felt people needed to hear her side just like Casper.
Ndivhu you are wrong my luv. Thobeka is telling her story, how you are translating it is on you not her. Your interpretation is not facts.
Ke sure owamie is blowing thobeka's DMs for a interview 😅😅😅😅😅😅
😂😂 I saw her video she's the last person she'd do a sit down with
@bridgetteruth4333 honestly which famous person in their right mind would go there ? She can't pronounce alot of words, her skin complexion was close to sols yet her ninjas say it's hyperpigmentation, she said there's no rich people living in soweto, she disregards her sister being a mother always telling us she adopted her son as if she doesn't live with her sister. Or maybe ke dom kop aketsi, bo dineo move on like she's virgin yet she keeps speaking about her ex big guy as if they were married for 7years with 3 children.
I dont like her, she has that thing of irritation
I cringe
Ndihivu the lady was at her lowest there's no but please...Ndihivu is that how you think everyday😳❤🩹yooooh
We love the three of them. Cassper has repented, he tried to mend things with her but unfortunately Thobeka couldn't anymore. So he had to continue living and probably he'd sacrificed a girl he loved. And because he was then single, he went back to her. I hope Pulane has also repented and perhaps apologise to Thobeka. Thobeka has healed and that's good.
Ndivhu is 💯 right an addict can’t stop his addiction just because of life situations😂. A drunkard will continue drinking even if he loses his job. A giraffe will not become short just because the tree around are short!
I also agree with her
Actually they can especially when they realize they are in the pits.. Many people recovered from addictions when shit hit the fan.. His son's illnesses should've been the one to do that.. I mean how do you get an erection when your own child who's been sick since he was 8months and still is in hospital for 2years.. And u see him hooked up in machines everyday.. Aowa lena ha le na dipelo.. There's no way sex addiction is to be blamed.
No she is not ryt, Casper is just 🚮🚮🚮🚮, njhe, the addict thing it's just an excuse to justify his actions...
@@bridgetteruth4333 you might need to a little bit more research on addiction. Also men don’t associate sex with emotions, hence they can F*ck every hole they see
I think Ndivhu knows more about the relationship than us.
Whether mommy, daddy, aunt was there or not, as a primary caregiver, it's not easy taking care of a sick person, jwale wa cancer I bet it even worse... I think the mommy is stating the insensitivity that Casper had at such a sensitive time of their child's life... Soo sooo sad
Yah that lady has a heart of steel because wtf! What is she saying mxm!
Very true... she is a man, in a woman's body i guess
No.
Listen to comprehend.
She's not being insensitive about the matter. She's just pointing how we should be neutral with the situation. As we don't know the truth!!
@@kagisotamia5601 Ma'am! We're talking about a woman who survived the pain of infidelity and her child going through cancer, and you somehow think it’s okay to spew contradictions and insensitive nonsense? It’s clear you’re not even trying to understand the gravity of her situation.
Instead of trying to sound clever, maybe you should take a step back and show some basic human empathy. Your lack of respect for someone’s suffering is honestly shocking.
Nothing,actually
IAM 100% WITH NDIVHU......I UNDERSTAND WHERE SHE S COMING FROM.
CAN WE LOOK AT A HUMAN BEING FIRST BEFORE WW TAKE SIDES, CASPER CLEARLY WASN'T IN A GOOD SPACE TOO AND HE IS ADMITTING & TAKING ACCOUNTABILITY AND HE IS WORKING ON HIMSELF. CAN WE ALL HEAL
You look absolutely beautiful, i love the outfit ❤❤❤
Drinking alcohol is not a sin... Gettn drunk is!
I’m with Ndivhu when it comes to this. I don’t like the being used and unfortunately I stopped believing everything with the me too movement 😂😂😂. I’m a woman living in SA and I see through their gimmicks shame. I’m saying this while raising my 13 year old daughter whose father never contributed anything. He actually told me to have an abortion. Now I’m not saying Thobeka is not right or those vibes of welcome to our world etc. etc. what I’m saying is I also had a part in what happened. Infact the ball was entirely in my court and I should’ve chosen my child’s father well. Unfortunately I am also to blame
Ndivhu noooo😢
Ayikho lento aythethayo
28:50 women also have an option to be mothers or not. Them actually staying with the child is them taking accountability for their actions.
If men are as bad as you say. Leave them alone 😂😂 don't date and don't marry.
Unfortunately it doesn’t work like that way my angel, as heterosexual women we are naturally and biologically attracted to men. We’ll always be attracted to men no matter how bad they are and we won’t stop holding them accountable just because of the nature of attraction. No ways. Wrong is wrong and it will be called out. And we will date and marry again tomorrow and the day after. That’s life
@@lovehlatsee6589no sisi we have agency! We have gifts & talents our purpose is much bigger than tying yourself to a man! Many miss their calling & greatness because of the over marketing & romanticisation of partnering with men especially the wrong one, they are not any womans lifeline unless she chooses so
@@lovehlatsee6589 🤣🤣🤣 lol
@@lovehlatsee6589 so you're saying you can't live without them😅😅finally a woman is honest. If you still want to try then it means that they are not bad as you say.
@@dikeledimmola3971 no sweetheart, we just heal and move on. Not everyone develops a bitter heart and chooses to hold on to bad experiences, because at the end of the day HUMANS are inherently bad. Not just men
😂😂😂 loved it… further more we need to acknowledge that we are the creators of these men! They come from women of anything we are their gods. So we need to raise our children respecting men also she let him behave like that we have to take accountability it’s our wombs we need to respect ourselves and not have babies with men who disrespect us!
The ghost lady ?? Are you okay?? No matter what happened in the relationship he cannot abandoned his responsibilities as a father!! This is not about his romantic relationship with Thobeka, it’s about his responsibilities as a father and neglected his OWN child when he was dealing with cancer
Who is this lady protecting Casper haiboo
Cassper has admitted multiple times times before he got saves ...he was a serial cheater.
I'm not sure the lady on the back round ..why he is blaming Thobeka...she is cruel
The Bible say if someone is in sorrow give him alcohol to forget his misery 😅😅😅
I wonder what Ntate Thuso Motaung will say about this since he was boring us about Casper Nyovest 😊
My thoughts exactly 💯
Yhoo hayi ngekhe Ndhivu sis hold it right there mama, yhoo ahyi ngekhe sisi.
Ms. Background Lady: NO. There’s this thing called TIMING. If this man would leave his child and the childs mother in the shadow of death what will he do with anybody else? Him hurting that childs main caretaker HARMS THE CHILD. Sies. HIS baby was dying MEANWHILE he’s out there eating cat, chasing skirts? Voetsek forever.
And optional fatherhood? “Thats the way it is?” Heal mammmmm heal. Also, God made men and he gave them FREE WILL!!!!!
Using things is not a sin but the misuse is ❤
Am here admiring your outfit
There is nothing anyone can do to make someone cheat. People choose to cheat. If someone doesn't treat you well, you should leave and not cheat.
Cha uyagula lo Ndivhu wakhona she’s heartless
The other lady is busy defending the undefendable .
She must be friends with Casper.
Madam speaker is the smartest lady in SA❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
May we not dive in with all our feelings and quickly make conclusion. Remember 'her truth, his truth and the truth'.
@@lekokonemartina7011 at least someone see it better way
He already said his truth, maybe go listen to that. He already said he cheated, Pulane already said she was there during Bex's time. There is no other truth.
@@WorthyOfAbundance so bcos he chose nt to say bad thngs abt her means tht she did nothing ?
@@AkaniMuchavi He already confirmed it's true,he was not there for his son. He cheated,and Pulane said they have been on and off since 2018. Caspper responded today. What else is there to say? She didn't accuse him of anything he didn't say himself.
@@WorthyOfAbundancethese men won’t hear you they also do this to their wives. Don’t waste your breathe.
So from what ndivhu is saying I would like to hear her opinion about people who come to the internet and say I was raped by so and so. Does she have the same opinion that people are coming to the internet to push a certain narrative?
Ndivhu she's not one sided that's why i like she's not a "Feminist"
She is on sided,Cassper's side
Whats wrong with feminism ?
We woman must accept that we are not mans piorities hle man can leave a woman a pregnant and never feel a pain , Moruti must go back to the scriptures , the bible says do not be drunk with wine it is only a sin if you are a priest
Ndivhu T wa pastor Bae, we are coming for you...
Men teach us everything we need to know about them but we always chose to wear blind folds. But in this case I think it's okay to sympathize with Sis😢 sometimes enlightenment comes after pain.