I feel like you missed an important aspect of the shift to the "Plushie Era." Pokemon from Gen 6 onward needed to be designed for animated 3D models. This meant that a lot of the designs pushed to be easier to render and animate- and some Pokemon even had design changes between gens 5 and 6. Many of the older designs just don't look as good in 3D, or were too detailed to model properly in 3D.
This is the best video on the topic I’ve seen, especially pointing out technical aspects and providing necessary background. Feeling like an educated dissection, rather than an opinion piece. Although it makes me remember why other monster tamers haven’t taken off or lasted to the same degree, Pokemon’s designs vary in “visual personality” as I call it, while other IP’s tend to be too homogenous as in there isn’t enough variation in the number of “cool”, “cute”, “bizarre”, “scary” monsters.
And I feel that other generations, whether intentionally or unintentionally help with that needed variety. Although that’s probably for a separate video
I always found Black and White one of the more interesting eras to analyze because since it has all new pokemon, there's alot a parallels to old pokemon that really show off how game freak has changed design principles. For example, Muk and Trubbish are both pokemon based on piles of waste, but because Trubbish has rounded eyes and features, as opposed to Muk's pointy eyes, it comes off less threatening and more cute
Gen 5 is a really odd one. I never liked it when it was out, but it's grown on me somewhat. It definitely feels like Pokémon redesigning a lot of gen 1 with new techniques to see what would be different
I don't like muk or Garbodor because they're sort of both far ends of extremes and I don't particularly like either. Muk is underdesigned (literally just a purple pile of sludge) to the point it's boring while Garbodor is overdesigned (lots of random features and clashing colors) to the point its a mess to look at. Just my opinion, its fine to like either of course, I just find it interesting how I dislike some pokemon for opposite reasons
In my testament 😂 I actually quit playing Pokémon after the sinnoh region and came back in x and y so when I seen some of the black and white designs I honestly thought they were from the x and y series 🤦♂️. But with that being said for me alola designs were okay just hated the ultra beast concept and I didn’t play sword and shield at all… 😂 but I just beat scarlet not too long ago and it was okay story wise and battling just performance wise kinda aggy but didn’t have that much fun since emerald,firered,heart gold ,or even diamond.
@@RokkTheRock I like it more, being based on oil spills is a bit more interesting and the crystals as claws/teeth give it at least a bit more features, still not my favorite but I prefer it to regular muk even if it is pretty weird looking
I personally like the "Abstract Era"- still animal-like, but more explicit about what they represent as a type. Blitzle looks like an electric type. Munna looks like a Psychic type. Instead of "the body has fire" Charizard, the flowy "tendrils" of Reshiram embody fire.
I love gen 4 pokemon 😭 This was really cool and the breakdown of each era's style helps me figure out why I feel the way I do towards particular pokemon. I've always loved Ponyta but not Blitzle as much, and its because of the details you pointed out. Will be interesting when I look through the entire pokedex again sometime with these new "eyes" of mine.
As a hobbyist creature designer, this video is very much enlightening and makes me want to look over my past designs and figure out how to implement some of the concepts from this video. It’s really interesting and I appreciate you sharing your insights on Pokemon design! I have been trying to also look at Pokemon for inspiration, but I don’t think I was looking at it in a way that was actually breaking down the design and figuring out how it works. At least I have a better starting point now lol. Keep up the good work!
I feel like Pikachu’s design even followed these 3 eras. He went from a chubby, anatomical design to a more balanced version with its head closer balancing with his body, and then his current version that is chibi or plushie all the way.
I wish others fans realized what you said about how Pokémon’s target audience is essentially kids and that they aren’t necessarily trying cater to old fans
i mean, they aren't catering to kids either. they are catering to corpo suits who think this is what will appeal to kids. ed, edd, and eddy* was made for children but the character designs were more interesting and complex than some of what gamefreak puts out. *example used because i can remember it most clearly, which is probably a _very_ strong point in its favor.
Main reason I don't engage o the discorce Fans forget that pokemon is what it is, and they were never meant to be complex. Honestly, I rather play the games I like (gen 3 to 5) instead of crying about gen 8 not being like gen 3
Nahhhh you're half-right, if i had to choose between old and new pokemon designs as a kid. Id gladly take the older designs maybe like maximum upto gen7
I really like this division of the design styles and it helps with some of my own mental grouping of the generations. You're a brave one to take pot shots at any particular generation though.
This was very lovely to watch and all of the graphical presentations were on point! I love that we can hear your excitement at times when you get to thing you enjoy!
The best take on pokemon design on youtube.Instead of just bashing the newer generation because nostalgia and cartoony and humanoid he instead focused on what each era of pokemon design meant for the series we either love or love to hate.Great vid
My thoughts and opinions of each generation's set of designs: • Gen 1: A diverse smorgasbord of unique, recognizable creatures. Many are abstract concepts, but are approached from a naturalistic perspective like you said • Gen 2: I have a few favourites from this gen, but aside from the cross-generation babies and evolutions.. I'm not really a fan of the majority of this Pokédex. Some of them are either too simplistic, too dull-colored, or were barely shown off in their debut generation.. • Gen 3: The graphical shift to the GBA definitely contributed to the designs of Hoenn. This was my first generation, and there is just so much uniqueness and creativity in these designs...not to mention COLOUR. This dex is a pack of Skittles! The designers were playing around a lot this gen. • Gen 4: Hints of design simplification can be seen in some designs, as if foreshadowing the Plushie era. Some designs are really dialing in on the "appeal" factor. Pokémon like Lucario, Infernape, Luxray and Garchomp are examples of Pokémon that truly exude coolness • Gen 5: A "soft reboot" for the franchise, this gen is quite experimental. More designs have become "concise" in terms of detail. Pokémon start becoming designed with unique personalities in mind as well. The Pokédex 3D apps show some large-scale experimentation with how Pokémon would appear in 3D • Gen 6: 3D modelling and animation is now a main design factor. The amount of detail is carefully considered. Thanks to Pokémon Amie, Pokémon now have to demonstrate even more appeal and character • Gen 7: Comparable to Gen 6. But now with a greater emphasis on marketability especially with some of the "friend-shaped" Pokemon • Gen 8: Pokémon are becoming more exaggerated in their designs, and are further pushing the boundaries of what a Pokémon design should look like. This Pokédex is quite divisive, and not just because of Dexit lol • Gen 9: Even more exaggeration and experimentation (literally) this gen. Probably the most divisive a Pokédex has been so far lol. There are a lot of Pokémon I either just don't care for or vehemently dislike. No offense to the designers, but some of the Paldea mons just feel like first passes..
While I like the concepts and designs for many of the newer generations of pokémon, there was always something that just felt "off" to me. These types of videos have helped me understand! It's the art style! With the early generations, the artsyle made the creatures look more realistic, like a real (albeit fantasy) animal you could actually picture roaming around the wilderness; with the newer generations, while the art style is cute, they look closer to OCs or caricatures rather than actual living creatures that would inhabit this fictional world. While neither artstyle is wrong or bad, the problem arises when the two contrasting art styles are right there next to each other in the same game. I'd love a couple of games with cohesive art style in either direction; in one game they could take the older pokémon and convert them into the newer, cuter art style, while in the other game (the one I would be most excited for) they take all the newer pokémon and convert them into the older, more realistic art style with more appropriate detailing and proportions. I personally would find it super cool to see some of the newer pokémon (Sobble or Nickit, for example) in the more classic style, and vice versa.
I love New Pokemon Snap but it really showed me the change in art style. The various generations don't even look like they belong in the same franchise.
Really enjoyable video ! I think I've gained a more solid appreciation for the modern era. I do hope you get around to making a video on the Ultra-Beasts, I think they're extremely interesting with how much they push the boundaries.
I have to admit that the 4th generation is one of my favorites in terms of design. Not because of technical reasons, but just because I think most Pokemon in that generation look very "cool", like for example Infernape, Lucario, Luxray, Electivire, Drapion, and even my currently favorite Pokémon, Roserade. I also love the charm of the smaller Pokémon too, for example, Starly is my favorite "starter bird", and I also really like Buizel's design (but not much Floatzel).
Simmilar. Also I would like to say that I like how this generation basically established (after Gen 3 hints) that designs of more "divine" or "alien" Pokemon became much more complicated, abstract and visually imposing, creating sense that it is not something powerful, special and otherworldly. Those are clearly not "pets", not even "beasts". Those are eldritch, divine and alien beings that defy rules of this world.
What a great video! I have favorites from every generation of Pokémon, but 1&2 have always appealed to me the most and not only because of nostalgia. I think your observation of how the designs are more naturalistic really nails it. I tend to (generally) prefer “lightly stylized” creatures over full blown abstraction. Really great breakdown of these design eras!
thanks you for actually giving valuable information an not just a video saying you dont like the modern pokemon era. now i understand more about character design and i appreciate more some designs
While we are no longer their key demographic, our generation continues to support this franchise. Just like we should not complain when they don't specifically go out of their way to appeal to just us, they should remember we do not have to buy their merchandise. If they forget us completely, they may find fewer people buying their goods. Just look at Star Wars and Marvel...
Interesting! Seeing videos like this explains why I like the original so much more than the new Pokemon. They look like actual living creatures and not plushies. Plushies migjt be fine for something like Neopets but it looks so strange when placed in a real world setting.
This is such a great video. Johto has my favorite designs out of all the gens. It keeps gen 1's quaint, somewhat naturalistic and angular design and makes them so colorful and vibrant. I recognize that in the newer gens (esp the abstract era) really cool design choices were made and that there was a lot of thought and creativity put into aforementioned designs, and yet... my favorite pokemon is a pile of vines. I wish all the "purely cool" amd intentionally super-cute designs would resonate with me as much as the slightly goofy ones but they just don't I'm a bit scared of being perceived as a genwunner (despite not even being alive during the nineties) because of that, but oh well. To each their own. Or maybe I just prefer the og retro artstyle and not the designs themselves, who knows Edit: Shoutout to the Reggies, the Golett line, the Venipede line, the Meltan line, the Honedge line and the Drifloon line, though!
Really appreciate your insight and approach here! Would love to hear you break down more of their design work, ecology, or anything that catches your eye! Thanks for a great video!
This a really well made video, and thanks to it, i finally figured out why i always had the feeling that a lot of designs felt to cutsey or soft, in their shape language or how some pokemons feel a lot less "animalistic" Also i assume that they based this Pokemon in a actual sea slug called sea bunny 16:21 lol
I didn't really think that I had a favorite gen in terms of Pokémon design, but then I did a test to figure out my favorite Pokémon, and I found that most of my faves are gen 1 and gen 2 Pokémon, and the ones that are from gen 3 and later have pretty simplistic designs that would've fit in gen 1 and 2, Pokémon such as Breloom, Swablu, Rotom, Slurpuff, Solosis, Eiscue, Audino, Whimsicott, and Bewear
for me its not really about how they were designed, but moreso if they're pretty, charming, and/or represent something i like. im not sure if i lean much towards one generation or another i do like the "naturalistic" approach of gen 1 though
Pokemon were always supposed to look like animals or "monsters". The highly abstract newer designs with unnatural ornamentation and limited texture make them look more like AI-generated corporate logos or app icons than living, breathing creatures. Not a fan at all, and I'm glad to know that it's not merely nostalgia that compels me to prefer the older designs.
Well said, I feel the same. But I've come to accept that I'm not tze target audience. I'm happy simply playing Crystal, Ruby or Leafgreen on my Emulator on the phone :p
A good number of my favorite designs are actually from gens 6 and 7, despite having grown up with the series. Many Pokémon fans around my age seem to feel that Pokémon design has gone downhill, and have very rigid ideas of what makes them "good" or "bad". They tend to favor more simple, aggressive looking designs that are essentially animals with a bit of color or flare to them to them to qualify them as fantasy monsters. They look down upon Pokémon that aren't strictly androgynous looking or anthropomorphized in any way. They dislike what they call "Pokémon with jobs", referring to Pokémon with concepts based on professions considered artistic and creative that require certain talent. They say that they are unable to picture these Pokémon as individuals with personalities. It feels like there's no room for creativity, for uniqueness, for Pokémon based on concepts or mythology rather than animals with elements slapped onto them. Pokémon fans no longer have the depth of imagination to project onto anything but the most blank slate of Pokémon designs, and blame the designs rather than their own lack of imagination.
those are called legendaries and shouldn't be as common as a squirrel at the local park. pokemon are supposed to exist in a cohesive world, any random nonsense shouldn't be added just because it is marketable.
Very nice analysis. I'm personally one of those people who kinda prefers a mix of the later "classic era" designs with a majority of the "abstract era," but I've had many favorites across all eras. Especially loved hearing you touch on some of the creature design elements, like weighting, color usage, and finding the focal point. Would love to hear you touch on Megas, Ultra Beasts, and Gigantamax in terms of design.
I was just looking into the differences between styles and came across this video! It's a wonderful breakdown of the design principles and gives a good explanation for why things have gone to a much cuter visual format. I think naming it the "plushie era" is incredibly apt! I grew up at the optimal time for Pokemon's release (I was 10 when red and blue came out) so it's certainly a franchise I'll love forever, and it's fun to see how it's grown since it's inception. I'm partial to the earlier, more natural designs myself, but this later era is nice visually too. I'll be certain to incorporate some of these techniques in my own work in the future. Thanks for the great vid!
This was a really informative and interesting! Pokemon has gone through such a big journey and I love to see people analyzing that journey. Definitely subscribing for more content like this!
I actually grew up with the series, having been given a Gameboy Color for my 6th birthday back in 1999 and with it a copy of Red, but though I'm an old fan I can't dent my preference towards the newer generation designs. Of course, I'm not saying Gen 1-4 were bad, they were all good, but as an adult who loves stirring up those imaginative juices for stories, seeing them being more creative with their designs has been a treat. The Ultra Beasts in particular blow my mind in 2016; they looked so alien and unlike other pokemon. But one of my favorites has to be Eternatus, that Lovecraftian beast made my jaw hit the floor when I saw it for the first time. I remember thinking "Is this really a pokemon?", but it was, and it looked amazing.
Yeah I suspect a lot of gen one fandom is mostly nostalgia. I get folks who don't like the newer designs, because maybe they like something a bit more... I dunno, hand-made? But the latest gens are really technically competent and have so much personality :)
@@SamSantalaArt Yeah. If you've played Legends Arceus they've injected some actual personality into the pokemon and how they interact with the player and other pokemon. Like how how a wild Blissey will approach the player if they're hurt and act like they're checking up on them before running away. A nod to how they're typically assistants to Nurse Joy in previous generations.
@@SamSantalaArt I'm just not a fan of the more "cutesy" designs of the newer gens. Don't get me wrong I still love some pokemon from the newer gens, particularly the bug types, but I just prefer the less cutesy-looking designs from the older gens.
@@SamSantalaArt I feel like there's a sense of realism to the designs of classic era. They don't feel like a product, but more like photographs or illustrations of something someone saw. Obviously none of its real, but that is the vibe I get.
@@priestesslucy3299 I see a BUNCH of people talking things like these already, and even understading it and agreeing its a totaly valid pov, i fell like a lot of people just say it to sell the newer art style as "souless" and objectivally worse in comparassion, witch is not exactaly true. Its really clear that newer designs has a lot of thinking towards them too ( with some exeption *COF COF* FLAMIGO *COF* ) just beacuse they dont follow this especific design philosophy it doesnt mean that the artists behind them dont care anymore. Not saying you'r part of it, but the main problem i have with the "pokemon design" discussion is that people are trying too hard to put an objective response in a question that just dont has one.
I mean.. I might not be the target audience anymore but I have a feeling adults are the ones actually BUYING most of the merchandise.. sooo.. meh.. my nephews favorite Pokémon are mostly gen 1-4 because that’s the majority of Pokémon merch I own that he sees. He’s only 9 but he can see the clear difference in styles and his most used phrase for the plushie era is “aunt Susie that’s for baby’s”
I’d love to be a creature designer. I love art as much as I love architecture so it was a difficult choice to make. I ended up choosing the one that’ll be the easiest to get a career 😅
yh your really just reminded me how peak gen 7's designs were. IMO best pokemon designs in the new era (second to megas but overall gen 7>gen 6). Gen 7 was on par with the heavy hitter of the middle era like gen 3 and gen 4 in terms of designs
This is a great video, very clear even for people like me who know nothing about art. One criticism I would have though, about the era you call the "plushie" era (when the art style goes corporate as you state in the video) is that it breaks away from the world it was born from. While pokemon started as an original concept, a new world with interesting, varied and expressive creatures that were made to fill up an imaginary world, I get the impression that the creatures being created now are not made to fill up an imaginary world, but very real bedrooms. Those of the children the plushies are going to be sold to. What I mean is: the imaginary was the fuel. Now the profit is. Of course that doesn't mean the art has become bad, or the concept less captivating. But the approach bothers me. I guess it's because I'm getting older.
More like Devolved, the classic era is what defined Pokémon and seeing them walk back on that is ridiculous. The Plushie era is especially an abomination to the series.
I think its also telling that the 2nd most profitable franchise is hello kitty, you can tell pokemons over time been taking cues from sanrio and making more “cutesy” and pastel merch in the plushie era compared to the more “boy” merch of the earlier gens
Venonat has a far less cluttered design than Aromatisse. Venonat’s fur is more jagged, but it is consistent and does not distract the eye. The contrast between the smooth and jagged fur of Aromatisse pulls my eye in different directions making it unpleasant to look at.
2:23 this kangaskan for me is so cute it's so happy it looks so friendly to me you know, i can't say for sure but i like it brings me happy feelings look at it :)
Very interesting video. Personally I find good and bad designs in all three eras (Parasect & Jinx, Torterra & Rhyperior, Oricorio & Comfey), but I must say that the abstract/second era is my favourite one, striking a good enough balance. To me the real problem in pokemon designs, which is very much prominent in the plushie/third era, is when the concept behind it overshadows the pokemon itself, basically shattering the illusion of believing such a creature belongs to a living-breathing member of a species. A great example of this problem is in the form of the Galar starters final evos.
Thanks a lot! Yeah I definitely want to do one on Monster Hunter at some point. I have so much to say about it, this Pokémon one was very dense though, so I may make one about a specific Monster instead of the whole brand. At least, for now.
What a great in-depth video! Really opened my eyes on the design choices they made and why, like the example between ponyta and blitzle! Obviously, I love the quaint look of the early designs as they’re reminiscent of real animals, but I also love the abstract era as they can get more creative of what a pokemon can be! As no surprise, the plushie era might not be my fav as the rounded features can get repetitive. I remember seeing a tweet criticizing the mouth style between alolan raichu and meowth compared to the original counterparts as being too simple and now I can’t stop thinking about that when I see them. I think it’s a little concerning when designs get more corporate, but i understand why as they wanna appeal to younger audiences! I’d say it can hinder future designs, but I’m sure they know what they’re doing when they still make cool original pokemon like Dragapult (and I’m a sucker for Appletun tbh) But anyways those are just those thoughts as I started playing pokemon with Sapphire and FireRed.
I greatly enjoyed listening to your analysis. I'm an aspiring concept artist and it's great to hear your thoughts as a professional. As someone who grew up with the franchise, I've always appreciated the newer and innovated designs of newer Pokemon. It'd be super interesting to hear your thoughts on Gen 9's roster! Also, I just discovered your art and I'm loving what I see! Can't wait to dive into your work some more! 😍
I mostly dislike many modern pokemon. There's a few that I like, like Snom, it's adorable, but Im so much more drawn the the older designs. Ik, ik, it's probably bc I grew up with them, but they just felt more alive! They felt like they had more love, more time, more effort put into them (for the most part, * coughcough * voltorb and electrode * cough *). Which is actually kind if true, the amount of time between releases has decreased and the number of animators have not increased to compensate for that AND the added workload of making everything in 3D. Not to mention that GameFreak is prioritizing different projects over Pokémon. Plus, I just really like the 90's anime spiky aesthetic. It's anime, not cartoon, you gotta have the spikes! I _hate_ the Sun and Moon anime style reboot, it's the plushifucation on steroids. Too squishy.
im a pokemon designer just purely as a hobby, and ive dedicated HOURS to studying the style(s) of pokemon and replicating them throughout their different eras. this is without competition the best breakdown ive seen, and it makes me want to revisit my old (and current, lol) designs with a renewed knowledge of what makes them tick!! great video!
Great video! you produce quality content, excited to see what you do next. One thing though, when mentioning gimmicks why did you mention ultra beasts instead of regional variants? Ultra beasts are for all intents and purposes just regular pokemon with a bit more out-there designs (still worth talking about but not really fitting with the point you were making about different forms to keep things interesting), while regional variants pretty much embody the idea you pointed out about keeping designs fresh (for example it's turned some pokemon I've never really cared about like Marowak or corsola into some of my absolute favorite). In my opinion it's the perfect example of how to modify designs in that way, much better in overall quality than megas and g-max because the inspirations for the designs tend to be more thought-out due to needing to make sense within the context of the region. (Just my opinion).
If I had to guess: because Ultra bests were so much connected to the story and how it is harder to justify their presence in other games. Notice that Ultra Bests didn't come back in non-Alola games. Regional variants did.
I knew every generation "felt" different but I couldn't verbalize or even cognize how - I just chalked it up to different directors and designers' personal styles, but seeing it as eras of design evolution based on that basest driving form of innovation, marketing... well, it puts things into perspective and confirms a lot of my intuited guesses. As someone who literally counted Pokemon as my (only) friends in childhood, I've learned to embrace the "new" generations with "aww, that's kinda nice" sort of detached mindset and just enjoy the cute pageantry of it all. I wasn't sure you were going to make more videos because it'd been quite a while, glad you're sticking around. As someone who really appreciates good design/engineering (in whatever discipline I find them in), I'm glad you can help me name a lot of what I just vaguely grasp at. How about a video idea? I was playing Hades and pondering all the "new" Shin Megami Tenseis and thought - the same mythical and historical figures can be interpreted in a variety of ways depending on authorial intent and the zeitgeist of the week - how does that extend to their visual design?
However, it is better if the Ken Sugimori art style is kept, so people will recognize the series as Pokémon. It worked when the Mario, Kirby, and Metroid games kept their own, and people recognize them too. SNK do change art styles, but only for the character arts as the character models would stay the same in especially the Neo Geo era KoF games.
One of the best examples of contrast done right is definitely the Gen 2 Gastly family, _especially_ Gengar. That thing really lives up to it's category of "Shadow Pokemon", being almost entirely black, with evil red eyes and a pale white grin, plus some purple highlights.
11:44 >fines >restraint and here we are 9 months later, the legendries are furry porn. Not every tool needs to be used. This isn't TF2. Forcing silhouette theory where it doesn't belong takes away from the naturalist themes.
I still love the first 3 gens, specially Hoenn, but I really love the Pokemon designs from the current era (gen 6 to now) I dont care what people say, I grew up since it beginnings in Gen 1, so its not like I grew up gen 6 to be bias with my opinion. Both Gen 4 and 5 were the point that I almost fell of from Pokemon, I did bought the games, but hardly played them, gen 6 brought me back and while I still didn’t exactly love the game I felt it more fresh than the pseudo-reboot of Gen 5, but gen 7 is the one I really enjoyed Pokemon again and both Gen 8 and 9 continued with trend. The other day I was doing the list of favorite Pokemon from each type and most are from gen 6 onwards, and for example even though I love Gardevoir design I still prefer the Mega-Gardevoir design
I remember one friend of mine once said "the painted Azumarill artwork looks more threatening than Yveltal, who is literally death incarnated". I think the main issue of older fans not liking the latest artstyle is that they have too many colors that are too bright, there is a general lack of neurtal colors that make them look "natural". Since Pokémon should be actual animals of their world, older fans expect they to be... I don't say "realistic"... but at least natural. The "plushie" era makes them feel like thay are artificial. I say this because the main yell of older fans is something like "there's no way something like THIS exist in nature, even if it is a fantasy". I personally like most of gen 6 and 7 Pokémons (8 and 9 are hard to elaborate for me, sorry) and I like the new style, but I hugely prefer the older style, and if you compare pokemon that should have the same role (Swampert and Quaquaval, both water starters), the change in artstyle is too big, and I understand those who say "the desing by itself is ok, but the artstyle is too eccentric in latest generations", and I personally agree. Great video ❤
For the amount of sh't fans give GF for their new "lazy" designs, they don't take a step back & take time to look & appreciate how gr8 & unique designs have gotten since the very beginning. Maybe Im saying this cuz I'm currently an amateur artist so I'd be the 1 to be easily pleased by any signs of cleverness & stylization towards them. Legendaries & Mythicals have only gotten better as the passes (talking solely about their designs, not how they're handled).
Good call in the conclusion. Paradox Pokemon are clearly Gen 9's answer to how to create an appealing twist to designs without radically shifting the core principles. They'll likely continue to introduce gimmicks like this in each generation (Mega, Dynamax, Paradox, etc.) to push the design language and gameplay features without having to make any permanent changes to the core formula.
Helpful insight! I like Sigilyph because he’s weird, and the busy design emphasizes it. “ For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God. “ John 3:16-21 (NIV) “ If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. “ Romans 10:9-10 (NIV)
Thing is Pokémon should look different from animal, basically should kinda represent them not look like Cartoons of them. For instance kycanroc is too much like a dig not a Pokemon
Honestly kinda expected you to talk about how much the midern era gave their deisgns so much cultural research. The last three generations specifically it feels like they make pokemon not only to be appealing, but also to be able to properly represent the regions they are based on. It honestly makes it have some charm and care to it that I don't think peole appreciate enough.
no. this is wrong and will kill pokemon in the long run. Without the video games there's no merch. Nintendo is just Japanese Disney at this point and it's going to end up horribly for both companies. I don't think any of us are complaining about Pokemon or Disney because we're not being catered to as much as we are starting to realize the implications it has now.
I personally don't like how complicated the newer designs are. They have far more details and larger color palettes than older Pokemon. That's not to say all the new designs are bad I'm just not into them.
I also feel like the designs have been getting less subtle in general. Compare Blaziken to Incineroar. Both fire/fighting types, but one is more clearly built like a wrestler, while the other isn’t really directed towards a profession. The newer gens also use more bright color schemes in general. They’re trying to get the designs to stand out more which results in a mixed bag imo. One thing the newer generations actually have nailed though is their regional designs and new evolution lines. Especially gen 9 with some of the past and future forms looking more nature like, and more abstract at the same time.
i feel like the big parts of this video was very _intuitively_ obvious, like anyone with the ability to examine the world around them should be able to feel it out but not necessarily have the language to properly explain it. i am absolutely gonna hold on to this video next time a fanboy says nostalgia is all the fuels peoples' love for past generations.
I feel like you missed an important aspect of the shift to the "Plushie Era." Pokemon from Gen 6 onward needed to be designed for animated 3D models. This meant that a lot of the designs pushed to be easier to render and animate- and some Pokemon even had design changes between gens 5 and 6. Many of the older designs just don't look as good in 3D, or were too detailed to model properly in 3D.
thyplosion go brr
@@zethstar3475 racism go brrrrr
Tangrowth.
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@@bamshablam5977 he’s racist, simple as that
This is the best video on the topic I’ve seen, especially pointing out technical aspects and providing necessary background. Feeling like an educated dissection, rather than an opinion piece.
Although it makes me remember why other monster tamers haven’t taken off or lasted to the same degree, Pokemon’s designs vary in “visual personality” as I call it, while other IP’s tend to be too homogenous as in there isn’t enough variation in the number of “cool”, “cute”, “bizarre”, “scary” monsters.
And I feel that other generations, whether intentionally or unintentionally help with that needed variety. Although that’s probably for a separate video
I always found Black and White one of the more interesting eras to analyze because since it has all new pokemon, there's alot a parallels to old pokemon that really show off how game freak has changed design principles.
For example, Muk and Trubbish are both pokemon based on piles of waste, but because Trubbish has rounded eyes and features, as opposed to Muk's pointy eyes, it comes off less threatening and more cute
Gen 5 is a really odd one. I never liked it when it was out, but it's grown on me somewhat. It definitely feels like Pokémon redesigning a lot of gen 1 with new techniques to see what would be different
I don't like muk or Garbodor because they're sort of both far ends of extremes and I don't particularly like either. Muk is underdesigned (literally just a purple pile of sludge) to the point it's boring while Garbodor is overdesigned (lots of random features and clashing colors) to the point its a mess to look at. Just my opinion, its fine to like either of course, I just find it interesting how I dislike some pokemon for opposite reasons
In my testament 😂 I actually quit playing Pokémon after the sinnoh region and came back in x and y so when I seen some of the black and white designs I honestly thought they were from the x and y series 🤦♂️. But with that being said for me alola designs were okay just hated the ultra beast concept and I didn’t play sword and shield at all… 😂 but I just beat scarlet not too long ago and it was okay story wise and battling just performance wise kinda aggy but didn’t have that much fun since emerald,firered,heart gold ,or even diamond.
@@JacobPDeIiNoNi what do you think of alolan grimer/muk?
@@RokkTheRock I like it more, being based on oil spills is a bit more interesting and the crystals as claws/teeth give it at least a bit more features, still not my favorite but I prefer it to regular muk even if it is pretty weird looking
I personally like the "Abstract Era"- still animal-like, but more explicit about what they represent as a type. Blitzle looks like an electric type. Munna looks like a Psychic type. Instead of "the body has fire" Charizard, the flowy "tendrils" of Reshiram embody fire.
That's a bit of a stretch. You wouldn't guess that Reshiram is a Fire type just from looking at it. But I respect what they were going for.
I love gen 4 pokemon 😭
This was really cool and the breakdown of each era's style helps me figure out why I feel the way I do towards particular pokemon. I've always loved Ponyta but not Blitzle as much, and its because of the details you pointed out.
Will be interesting when I look through the entire pokedex again sometime with these new "eyes" of mine.
As a hobbyist creature designer, this video is very much enlightening and makes me want to look over my past designs and figure out how to implement some of the concepts from this video. It’s really interesting and I appreciate you sharing your insights on Pokemon design! I have been trying to also look at Pokemon for inspiration, but I don’t think I was looking at it in a way that was actually breaking down the design and figuring out how it works. At least I have a better starting point now lol. Keep up the good work!
That's really nice to hear! I'm really glad my Pokémon ramble could teach you something interesting about how to design creatures :D
I feel like Pikachu’s design even followed these 3 eras. He went from a chubby, anatomical design to a more balanced version with its head closer balancing with his body, and then his current version that is chibi or plushie all the way.
I wish others fans realized what you said about how Pokémon’s target audience is essentially kids and that they aren’t necessarily trying cater to old fans
i mean, they aren't catering to kids either. they are catering to corpo suits who think this is what will appeal to kids. ed, edd, and eddy* was made for children but the character designs were more interesting and complex than some of what gamefreak puts out.
*example used because i can remember it most clearly, which is probably a _very_ strong point in its favor.
Main reason I don't engage o the discorce
Fans forget that pokemon is what it is, and they were never meant to be complex. Honestly, I rather play the games I like (gen 3 to 5) instead of crying about gen 8 not being like gen 3
Nahhhh you're half-right, if i had to choose between old and new pokemon designs as a kid. Id gladly take the older designs maybe like maximum upto gen7
I really like this division of the design styles and it helps with some of my own mental grouping of the generations. You're a brave one to take pot shots at any particular generation though.
I definitely felt there was a design shift from 2 to 3 and 5 to 6 but never really knew why until now
This was very lovely to watch and all of the graphical presentations were on point! I love that we can hear your excitement at times when you get to thing you enjoy!
Man the difference between blitzle and ponyta.. that's what kills me
Seeing the process of this video, how it was born and where it ended up was so exciting! I'm so happy with this end result! Can't wait for more!!
The best take on pokemon design on youtube.Instead of just bashing the newer generation because nostalgia and cartoony and humanoid he instead focused on what each era of pokemon design meant for the series we either love or love to hate.Great vid
You mentioning real gems in the abstract era and showing my #1, Maractus ❤
My thoughts and opinions of each generation's set of designs:
• Gen 1: A diverse smorgasbord of unique, recognizable creatures. Many are abstract concepts, but are approached from a naturalistic perspective like you said
• Gen 2: I have a few favourites from this gen, but aside from the cross-generation babies and evolutions.. I'm not really a fan of the majority of this Pokédex. Some of them are either too simplistic, too dull-colored, or were barely shown off in their debut generation..
• Gen 3: The graphical shift to the GBA definitely contributed to the designs of Hoenn. This was my first generation, and there is just so much uniqueness and creativity in these designs...not to mention COLOUR. This dex is a pack of Skittles!
The designers were playing around a lot this gen.
• Gen 4: Hints of design simplification can be seen in some designs, as if foreshadowing the Plushie era. Some designs are really dialing in on the "appeal" factor. Pokémon like Lucario, Infernape, Luxray and Garchomp are examples of Pokémon that truly exude coolness
• Gen 5: A "soft reboot" for the franchise, this gen is quite experimental. More designs have become "concise" in terms of detail. Pokémon start becoming designed with unique personalities in mind as well.
The Pokédex 3D apps show some large-scale experimentation with how Pokémon would appear in 3D
• Gen 6: 3D modelling and animation is now a main design factor. The amount of detail is carefully considered. Thanks to Pokémon Amie, Pokémon now have to demonstrate even more appeal and character
• Gen 7: Comparable to Gen 6. But now with a greater emphasis on marketability especially with some of the "friend-shaped" Pokemon
• Gen 8: Pokémon are becoming more exaggerated in their designs, and are further pushing the boundaries of what a Pokémon design should look like. This Pokédex is quite divisive, and not just because of Dexit lol
• Gen 9: Even more exaggeration and experimentation (literally) this gen. Probably the most divisive a Pokédex has been so far lol.
There are a lot of Pokémon I either just don't care for or vehemently dislike. No offense to the designers, but some of the Paldea mons just feel like first passes..
Good overview! Design wise, gen 1’s shapes and relatability make it my fav!
This was a very well done video. My favorite Era is the Abstract Era, it's the one I grew up with. So I guess that's why lol, Gen 5 Specifically.
While I like the concepts and designs for many of the newer generations of pokémon, there was always something that just felt "off" to me. These types of videos have helped me understand! It's the art style! With the early generations, the artsyle made the creatures look more realistic, like a real (albeit fantasy) animal you could actually picture roaming around the wilderness; with the newer generations, while the art style is cute, they look closer to OCs or caricatures rather than actual living creatures that would inhabit this fictional world. While neither artstyle is wrong or bad, the problem arises when the two contrasting art styles are right there next to each other in the same game.
I'd love a couple of games with cohesive art style in either direction; in one game they could take the older pokémon and convert them into the newer, cuter art style, while in the other game (the one I would be most excited for) they take all the newer pokémon and convert them into the older, more realistic art style with more appropriate detailing and proportions. I personally would find it super cool to see some of the newer pokémon (Sobble or Nickit, for example) in the more classic style, and vice versa.
I love New Pokemon Snap but it really showed me the change in art style. The various generations don't even look like they belong in the same franchise.
i would love it if they went back to the good art style, zorua would be so much cuter.
Really enjoyable video ! I think I've gained a more solid appreciation for the modern era. I do hope you get around to making a video on the Ultra-Beasts, I think they're extremely interesting with how much they push the boundaries.
I have to admit that the 4th generation is one of my favorites in terms of design. Not because of technical reasons, but just because I think most Pokemon in that generation look very "cool", like for example Infernape, Lucario, Luxray, Electivire, Drapion, and even my currently favorite Pokémon, Roserade. I also love the charm of the smaller Pokémon too, for example, Starly is my favorite "starter bird", and I also really like Buizel's design (but not much Floatzel).
I also love the new baby stages even more than their evolutions, like Mime Jr., Bonsly and Munchlax.
Simmilar. Also I would like to say that I like how this generation basically established (after Gen 3 hints) that designs of more "divine" or "alien" Pokemon became much more complicated, abstract and visually imposing, creating sense that it is not something powerful, special and otherworldly. Those are clearly not "pets", not even "beasts". Those are eldritch, divine and alien beings that defy rules of this world.
@@MrLucasmatta I also really love mime Jr. I generally hate baby pokemon as well as Mr mime himself but Mime Jr is just lovely.
What a great video! I have favorites from every generation of Pokémon, but 1&2 have always appealed to me the most and not only because of nostalgia. I think your observation of how the designs are more naturalistic really nails it. I tend to (generally) prefer “lightly stylized” creatures over full blown abstraction. Really great breakdown of these design eras!
this was very insightful, thanks for the breakdown! :)
thanks you for actually giving valuable information an not just a video saying you dont like the modern pokemon era. now i understand more about character design and i appreciate more some designs
While we are no longer their key demographic, our generation continues to support this franchise. Just like we should not complain when they don't specifically go out of their way to appeal to just us, they should remember we do not have to buy their merchandise. If they forget us completely, they may find fewer people buying their goods. Just look at Star Wars and Marvel...
These are my absolute favorite topics on Pokémon, I’m so upset my algorithm didn’t recommend this
This video helped me understand art design
I've been waiting for this video for about 12 years, and it's as great as I ever dreamed.
Haha, Kyle you know I'd talk your ear off about Pokémon design any time :D
Basically, kids these days prefer cartoony styles vs the 90s kids that liked a little realism.
Interesting! Seeing videos like this explains why I like the original so much more than the new Pokemon. They look like actual living creatures and not plushies. Plushies migjt be fine for something like Neopets but it looks so strange when placed in a real world setting.
This is such a great video. Johto has my favorite designs out of all the gens. It keeps gen 1's quaint, somewhat naturalistic and angular design and makes them so colorful and vibrant. I recognize that in the newer gens (esp the abstract era) really cool design choices were made and that there was a lot of thought and creativity put into aforementioned designs, and yet... my favorite pokemon is a pile of vines. I wish all the "purely cool" amd intentionally super-cute designs would resonate with me as much as the slightly goofy ones but they just don't
I'm a bit scared of being perceived as a genwunner (despite not even being alive during the nineties) because of that, but oh well. To each their own. Or maybe I just prefer the og retro artstyle and not the designs themselves, who knows
Edit: Shoutout to the Reggies, the Golett line, the Venipede line, the Meltan line, the Honedge line and the Drifloon line, though!
Really appreciate your insight and approach here! Would love to hear you break down more of their design work, ecology, or anything that catches your eye! Thanks for a great video!
This a really well made video, and thanks to it, i finally figured out why i always had the feeling that a lot of designs felt to cutsey or soft, in their shape language or how some pokemons feel a lot less "animalistic"
Also i assume that they based this Pokemon in a actual sea slug called sea bunny 16:21 lol
I didn't really think that I had a favorite gen in terms of Pokémon design, but then I did a test to figure out my favorite Pokémon, and I found that most of my faves are gen 1 and gen 2 Pokémon, and the ones that are from gen 3 and later have pretty simplistic designs that would've fit in gen 1 and 2, Pokémon such as Breloom, Swablu, Rotom, Slurpuff, Solosis, Eiscue, Audino, Whimsicott, and Bewear
for me its not really about how they were designed, but moreso if they're pretty, charming, and/or represent something i like. im not sure if i lean much towards one generation or another
i do like the "naturalistic" approach of gen 1 though
Pokemon were always supposed to look like animals or "monsters". The highly abstract newer designs with unnatural ornamentation and limited texture make them look more like AI-generated corporate logos or app icons than living, breathing creatures. Not a fan at all, and I'm glad to know that it's not merely nostalgia that compels me to prefer the older designs.
Well said, I feel the same. But I've come to accept that I'm not tze target audience. I'm happy simply playing Crystal, Ruby or Leafgreen on my Emulator on the phone :p
Gen 1 designs are timeless in my opinion, especially in the original ken Sugimori illustrations.
All ages
Pokémon is such a one of a kind unique franchise
A good number of my favorite designs are actually from gens 6 and 7, despite having grown up with the series.
Many Pokémon fans around my age seem to feel that Pokémon design has gone downhill, and have very rigid ideas of what makes them "good" or "bad". They tend to favor more simple, aggressive looking designs that are essentially animals with a bit of color or flare to them to them to qualify them as fantasy monsters. They look down upon Pokémon that aren't strictly androgynous looking or anthropomorphized in any way. They dislike what they call "Pokémon with jobs", referring to Pokémon with concepts based on professions considered artistic and creative that require certain talent. They say that they are unable to picture these Pokémon as individuals with personalities.
It feels like there's no room for creativity, for uniqueness, for Pokémon based on concepts or mythology rather than animals with elements slapped onto them. Pokémon fans no longer have the depth of imagination to project onto anything but the most blank slate of Pokémon designs, and blame the designs rather than their own lack of imagination.
those are called legendaries and shouldn't be as common as a squirrel at the local park. pokemon are supposed to exist in a cohesive world, any random nonsense shouldn't be added just because it is marketable.
Very nice analysis. I'm personally one of those people who kinda prefers a mix of the later "classic era" designs with a majority of the "abstract era," but I've had many favorites across all eras. Especially loved hearing you touch on some of the creature design elements, like weighting, color usage, and finding the focal point. Would love to hear you touch on Megas, Ultra Beasts, and Gigantamax in terms of design.
I was just looking into the differences between styles and came across this video! It's a wonderful breakdown of the design principles and gives a good explanation for why things have gone to a much cuter visual format. I think naming it the "plushie era" is incredibly apt! I grew up at the optimal time for Pokemon's release (I was 10 when red and blue came out) so it's certainly a franchise I'll love forever, and it's fun to see how it's grown since it's inception. I'm partial to the earlier, more natural designs myself, but this later era is nice visually too. I'll be certain to incorporate some of these techniques in my own work in the future. Thanks for the great vid!
This was a really informative and interesting!
Pokemon has gone through such a big journey and I love to see people analyzing that journey. Definitely subscribing for more content like this!
This video essay is so cohesive, entertaining and interesting at the same time!
id say my favorite gens of design are 3 and 7 with a sprinkle of every other gen lol
I actually grew up with the series, having been given a Gameboy Color for my 6th birthday back in 1999 and with it a copy of Red, but though I'm an old fan I can't dent my preference towards the newer generation designs. Of course, I'm not saying Gen 1-4 were bad, they were all good, but as an adult who loves stirring up those imaginative juices for stories, seeing them being more creative with their designs has been a treat. The Ultra Beasts in particular blow my mind in 2016; they looked so alien and unlike other pokemon. But one of my favorites has to be Eternatus, that Lovecraftian beast made my jaw hit the floor when I saw it for the first time. I remember thinking "Is this really a pokemon?", but it was, and it looked amazing.
Yeah I suspect a lot of gen one fandom is mostly nostalgia. I get folks who don't like the newer designs, because maybe they like something a bit more... I dunno, hand-made? But the latest gens are really technically competent and have so much personality :)
@@SamSantalaArt Yeah. If you've played Legends Arceus they've injected some actual personality into the pokemon and how they interact with the player and other pokemon. Like how how a wild Blissey will approach the player if they're hurt and act like they're checking up on them before running away. A nod to how they're typically assistants to Nurse Joy in previous generations.
@@SamSantalaArt I'm just not a fan of the more "cutesy" designs of the newer gens. Don't get me wrong I still love some pokemon from the newer gens, particularly the bug types, but I just prefer the less cutesy-looking designs from the older gens.
@@SamSantalaArt I feel like there's a sense of realism to the designs of classic era.
They don't feel like a product, but more like photographs or illustrations of something someone saw.
Obviously none of its real, but that is the vibe I get.
@@priestesslucy3299
I see a BUNCH of people talking things like these already, and even understading it and agreeing its a totaly valid pov, i fell like a lot of people just say it to sell the newer art style as "souless" and objectivally worse in comparassion, witch is not exactaly true. Its really clear that newer designs has a lot of thinking towards them too ( with some exeption *COF COF* FLAMIGO *COF* ) just beacuse they dont follow this especific design philosophy it doesnt mean that the artists behind them dont care anymore.
Not saying you'r part of it, but the main problem i have with the "pokemon design" discussion is that people are trying too hard to put an objective response in a question that just dont has one.
I mean.. I might not be the target audience anymore but I have a feeling adults are the ones actually BUYING most of the merchandise.. sooo.. meh.. my nephews favorite Pokémon are mostly gen 1-4 because that’s the majority of Pokémon merch I own that he sees. He’s only 9 but he can see the clear difference in styles and his most used phrase for the plushie era is “aunt Susie that’s for baby’s”
I love most gen 4 pokemon designs.
Gens 1, 2 and 4 are my favorite; gens 3, 7 and 8 are a mixed bag for me and gens 5 and 6 mostly suck imo.
I’d love to be a creature designer. I love art as much as I love architecture so it was a difficult choice to make. I ended up choosing the one that’ll be the easiest to get a career 😅
yh your really just reminded me how peak gen 7's designs were. IMO best pokemon designs in the new era (second to megas but overall gen 7>gen 6). Gen 7 was on par with the heavy hitter of the middle era like gen 3 and gen 4 in terms of designs
This is a great video, very clear even for people like me who know nothing about art.
One criticism I would have though, about the era you call the "plushie" era (when the art style goes corporate as you state in the video) is that it breaks away from the world it was born from.
While pokemon started as an original concept, a new world with interesting, varied and expressive creatures that were made to fill up an imaginary world, I get the impression that the creatures being created now are not made to fill up an imaginary world, but very real bedrooms. Those of the children the plushies are going to be sold to.
What I mean is: the imaginary was the fuel. Now the profit is.
Of course that doesn't mean the art has become bad, or the concept less captivating. But the approach bothers me. I guess it's because I'm getting older.
More like Devolved, the classic era is what defined Pokémon and seeing them walk back on that is ridiculous. The Plushie era is especially an abomination to the series.
I think its also telling that the 2nd most profitable franchise is hello kitty, you can tell pokemons over time been taking cues from sanrio and making more “cutesy” and pastel merch in the plushie era compared to the more “boy” merch of the earlier gens
Venonat has a far less cluttered design than Aromatisse. Venonat’s fur is more jagged, but it is consistent and does not distract the eye. The contrast between the smooth and jagged fur of Aromatisse pulls my eye in different directions making it unpleasant to look at.
Really good video :) , I havent seen many people cover weighting in designs so this was very useful ! thank you :)
Pokemon’s design ends in 4th generation… The next generations is pure garbage and laziness.
Oh neat another vid.
this is the best video on youtube. thank you so much for this breakdown
can you talk about the characters next
2:23 this kangaskan for me is so cute it's so happy it looks so friendly to me you know, i can't say for sure but i like it brings me happy feelings look at it :)
Very interesting video.
Personally I find good and bad designs in all three eras (Parasect & Jinx, Torterra & Rhyperior, Oricorio & Comfey), but I must say that the abstract/second era is my favourite one, striking a good enough balance.
To me the real problem in pokemon designs, which is very much prominent in the plushie/third era, is when the concept behind it overshadows the pokemon itself, basically shattering the illusion of believing such a creature belongs to a living-breathing member of a species. A great example of this problem is in the form of the Galar starters final evos.
Great video Sam! I'd love to hear your take on Monster Hunter creature design as well, there's a lot to unpack there!
Thanks a lot! Yeah I definitely want to do one on Monster Hunter at some point. I have so much to say about it, this Pokémon one was very dense though, so I may make one about a specific Monster instead of the whole brand. At least, for now.
@@SamSantalaArt Sounds great! Can't wait to see it 😊
Really really good video man, keep it up!
15:52 Pokémon has made 800 million dollars from the anime? That’s wild
What a great in-depth video! Really opened my eyes on the design choices they made and why, like the example between ponyta and blitzle!
Obviously, I love the quaint look of the early designs as they’re reminiscent of real animals, but I also love the abstract era as they can get more creative of what a pokemon can be!
As no surprise, the plushie era might not be my fav as the rounded features can get repetitive. I remember seeing a tweet criticizing the mouth style between alolan raichu and meowth compared to the original counterparts as being too simple and now I can’t stop thinking about that when I see them. I think it’s a little concerning when designs get more corporate, but i understand why as they wanna appeal to younger audiences! I’d say it can hinder future designs, but I’m sure they know what they’re doing when they still make cool original pokemon like Dragapult (and I’m a sucker for Appletun tbh)
But anyways those are just those thoughts as I started playing pokemon with Sapphire and FireRed.
I greatly enjoyed listening to your analysis. I'm an aspiring concept artist and it's great to hear your thoughts as a professional. As someone who grew up with the franchise, I've always appreciated the newer and innovated designs of newer Pokemon. It'd be super interesting to hear your thoughts on Gen 9's roster!
Also, I just discovered your art and I'm loving what I see! Can't wait to dive into your work some more! 😍
I would appreciate a lot more pokemon themed videos, this franchise has a lot to offer when bringing the design topic
I mostly dislike many modern pokemon. There's a few that I like, like Snom, it's adorable, but Im so much more drawn the the older designs. Ik, ik, it's probably bc I grew up with them, but they just felt more alive! They felt like they had more love, more time, more effort put into them (for the most part, * coughcough * voltorb and electrode * cough *). Which is actually kind if true, the amount of time between releases has decreased and the number of animators have not increased to compensate for that AND the added workload of making everything in 3D. Not to mention that GameFreak is prioritizing different projects over Pokémon. Plus, I just really like the 90's anime spiky aesthetic. It's anime, not cartoon, you gotta have the spikes! I _hate_ the Sun and Moon anime style reboot, it's the plushifucation on steroids. Too squishy.
Sir i think you misstyped the title, i think you meant "devolved"
im a pokemon designer just purely as a hobby, and ive dedicated HOURS to studying the style(s) of pokemon and replicating them throughout their different eras. this is without competition the best breakdown ive seen, and it makes me want to revisit my old (and current, lol) designs with a renewed knowledge of what makes them tick!! great video!
Great video! you produce quality content, excited to see what you do next.
One thing though, when mentioning gimmicks why did you mention ultra beasts instead of regional variants? Ultra beasts are for all intents and purposes just regular pokemon with a bit more out-there designs (still worth talking about but not really fitting with the point you were making about different forms to keep things interesting), while regional variants pretty much embody the idea you pointed out about keeping designs fresh (for example it's turned some pokemon I've never really cared about like Marowak or corsola into some of my absolute favorite). In my opinion it's the perfect example of how to modify designs in that way, much better in overall quality than megas and g-max because the inspirations for the designs tend to be more thought-out due to needing to make sense within the context of the region. (Just my opinion).
If I had to guess: because Ultra bests were so much connected to the story and how it is harder to justify their presence in other games.
Notice that Ultra Bests didn't come back in non-Alola games. Regional variants did.
@@vladprus4019 Ok that makes more sense.
I knew every generation "felt" different but I couldn't verbalize or even cognize how - I just chalked it up to different directors and designers' personal styles, but seeing it as eras of design evolution based on that basest driving form of innovation, marketing... well, it puts things into perspective and confirms a lot of my intuited guesses. As someone who literally counted Pokemon as my (only) friends in childhood, I've learned to embrace the "new" generations with "aww, that's kinda nice" sort of detached mindset and just enjoy the cute pageantry of it all.
I wasn't sure you were going to make more videos because it'd been quite a while, glad you're sticking around. As someone who really appreciates good design/engineering (in whatever discipline I find them in), I'm glad you can help me name a lot of what I just vaguely grasp at.
How about a video idea? I was playing Hades and pondering all the "new" Shin Megami Tenseis and thought - the same mythical and historical figures can be interpreted in a variety of ways depending on authorial intent and the zeitgeist of the week - how does that extend to their visual design?
I liked the video
Amazing video great work!
Counter argument for Gen 4: Munchlax came from it.
Also Toxicroak, who is ugly as sin, but I love it.
Toxicroak is just plain badass, and heck, Scrafty line kinda reminded me of them come next gen. They were both dual typings that were welcome.
Bruh… abstract era >>> all
However, it is better if the Ken Sugimori art style is kept, so people will recognize the series as Pokémon. It worked when the Mario, Kirby, and Metroid games kept their own, and people recognize them too. SNK do change art styles, but only for the character arts as the character models would stay the same in especially the Neo Geo era KoF games.
This was outstanding! Thanks for clearly putting in so much time and thought into this. It really shows!
NICE!!! Thank you!
This is an awesome analysis video. I would love to see a part 2
hey i love gen 4 says the guy whos plaing gen 4 music in the background
Video: these new Pokemon are supposed to be more recognizable for children.
Children: I never seen these Pikachus in my life.
One of the best examples of contrast done right is definitely the Gen 2 Gastly family, _especially_ Gengar. That thing really lives up to it's category of "Shadow Pokemon", being almost entirely black, with evil red eyes and a pale white grin, plus some purple highlights.
The question of the century is ; does corporate art style actually sell better?!
11:44
>fines
>restraint
and here we are 9 months later, the legendries are furry porn.
Not every tool needs to be used. This isn't TF2. Forcing silhouette theory where it doesn't belong takes away from the naturalist themes.
I still love the first 3 gens, specially Hoenn, but I really love the Pokemon designs from the current era (gen 6 to now) I dont care what people say, I grew up since it beginnings in Gen 1, so its not like I grew up gen 6 to be bias with my opinion. Both Gen 4 and 5 were the point that I almost fell of from Pokemon, I did bought the games, but hardly played them, gen 6 brought me back and while I still didn’t exactly love the game I felt it more fresh than the pseudo-reboot of Gen 5, but gen 7 is the one I really enjoyed Pokemon again and both Gen 8 and 9 continued with trend. The other day I was doing the list of favorite Pokemon from each type and most are from gen 6 onwards, and for example even though I love Gardevoir design I still prefer the Mega-Gardevoir design
I remember one friend of mine once said "the painted Azumarill artwork looks more threatening than Yveltal, who is literally death incarnated". I think the main issue of older fans not liking the latest artstyle is that they have too many colors that are too bright, there is a general lack of neurtal colors that make them look "natural".
Since Pokémon should be actual animals of their world, older fans expect they to be... I don't say "realistic"... but at least natural. The "plushie" era makes them feel like thay are artificial. I say this because the main yell of older fans is something like "there's no way something like THIS exist in nature, even if it is a fantasy".
I personally like most of gen 6 and 7 Pokémons (8 and 9 are hard to elaborate for me, sorry) and I like the new style, but I hugely prefer the older style, and if you compare pokemon that should have the same role (Swampert and Quaquaval, both water starters), the change in artstyle is too big, and I understand those who say "the desing by itself is ok, but the artstyle is too eccentric in latest generations", and I personally agree.
Great video ❤
For the amount of sh't fans give GF for their new "lazy" designs, they don't take a step back & take time to look & appreciate how gr8 & unique designs have gotten since the very beginning. Maybe Im saying this cuz I'm currently an amateur artist so I'd be the 1 to be easily pleased by any signs of cleverness & stylization towards them. Legendaries & Mythicals have only gotten better as the passes (talking solely about their designs, not how they're handled).
Good call in the conclusion. Paradox Pokemon are clearly Gen 9's answer to how to create an appealing twist to designs without radically shifting the core principles. They'll likely continue to introduce gimmicks like this in each generation (Mega, Dynamax, Paradox, etc.) to push the design language and gameplay features without having to make any permanent changes to the core formula.
Imagine "Who's that Pokemon" without distintive silhouettes
Helpful insight! I like Sigilyph because he’s weird, and the busy design emphasizes it.
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interesting idea for a youtube channel. I'm eager to learn more about the designs in videogames.
Thing is Pokémon should look different from animal, basically should kinda represent them not look like Cartoons of them. For instance kycanroc is too much like a dig not a Pokemon
Honestly kinda expected you to talk about how much the midern era gave their deisgns so much cultural research. The last three generations specifically it feels like they make pokemon not only to be appealing, but also to be able to properly represent the regions they are based on. It honestly makes it have some charm and care to it that I don't think peole appreciate enough.
this was really interesting!
no. this is wrong and will kill pokemon in the long run. Without the video games there's no merch. Nintendo is just Japanese Disney at this point and it's going to end up horribly for both companies. I don't think any of us are complaining about Pokemon or Disney because we're not being catered to as much as we are starting to realize the implications it has now.
I personally like more animalistic pokemon, more sharp and wild, like you compared persian and delcatty.
Probably the best video I’ve found on Pokémon designs, thanks for the vid
I personally don't like how complicated the newer designs are. They have far more details and larger color palettes than older Pokemon. That's not to say all the new designs are bad I'm just not into them.
I also feel like the designs have been getting less subtle in general. Compare Blaziken to Incineroar. Both fire/fighting types, but one is more clearly built like a wrestler, while the other isn’t really directed towards a profession. The newer gens also use more bright color schemes in general. They’re trying to get the designs to stand out more which results in a mixed bag imo. One thing the newer generations actually have nailed though is their regional designs and new evolution lines. Especially gen 9 with some of the past and future forms looking more nature like, and more abstract at the same time.
8:01 I'm still trying to figure out how to tap into Licky Licky's Wi-Fi
i feel like the big parts of this video was very _intuitively_ obvious, like anyone with the ability to examine the world around them should be able to feel it out but not necessarily have the language to properly explain it. i am absolutely gonna hold on to this video next time a fanboy says nostalgia is all the fuels peoples' love for past generations.