I love your experimentation and the fact that you're still learning - just like us! It sets you apart. Keep up the good work and thank you for the uploads!
@@dragontechgaming6677 what is it you do? BigstackD has inspired many of us to try this. If you want to melt on UA-cam, how would you not be a copycat at this point, no matter what you do? Have you ever watched Tito4re?
It's so cool how molten aluminum has a solid layer on the outside so it always looks like (and technically IS,) its own little self-contained package, constantly recycling and re-forming that super-thin solid outer coating. I wonder how thick that solid layer is. It must be very thin, like a fraction of a millimeter.
I bought a small crafting vice which I just set up. I didn't notice till I used it, it has smooth jaws. No grip. Live and learn. I dig your videos. Keep melting.🐎
Hello from NY. My family collects can tabs as a fundraiser for our local cancer support group. I recently turned in 1800 pounds of just tabs. That was 15 full 55 gallon barrels of tabs. We get 50 cents per lb for them. I've often thought it would benefit us to melt them down first but it looks like it might hurt us more than help. It was very interesting watching you melt those down. I would be interested in buying some of your cancer ribbon ingots if you can pour them a bit thinner.
Aluminum is my all time fav looking melts. I love the beautiful shine on them. I would love to buy a ingot from you but the shipping would cost wayyyyy more than what its worth lol Loved this video.
@@TheGrowingStack I live in a small town called Duncan and its in Oklahoma. I recycle all my aluminum cans and right now I have about 200 or so pounds to turn in !!!
Dude 113 out and you got long sleeves and sat there to count out 3,914 tabs??? 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I gotta hand it to y’a brother, I wouldn’t have done it lol as the old saying said, do it for the vine 🤣🤣🤣🍻🤜🏻🤛🏻
If the sleeves are a lightweight cotton, it is actually preferable. I live in the Desert Southwest and the thing with dry heat is the heat from direct sun exposure. You ever stand in front of a throw heater and get too warm on your face, but your clothing sort of buffers it? It is like that. The whole trick is super breathable fabric so you get airflow, but enough protection that your skin is shaded. Note, all the above means nothing in humid weather.
Looking good, awesome shine on that bar. Al never does to well in the graphite shape molds, that oxide bubble always messes things up. It would be more trouble, but if you could make a plate with a sprue hole, and clamp it with the mold and pour it vertically, they work pretty good.
I appreciate the ribbon mold, but it either sucks, not machined deep enough or your metal is not hot or viscous enough. Great video and never stop experimenting!
I dont know if anybody else has commented on it, but, the one with the dust, very nice idea, but I think it will take a metal with at least same meltingpoint, or higher to combine🤔?, not sure, just a thought,…
You should get a new ribbon mold made that has a little bit deeper cut. It might turn out a bit better for you.. As for that powder you sprinkled on before the pour. Maybe you have to heat it up before the pour.
Random thought, I also suggested this to the other guy, if I could do what you do, I would do a series of smelt videos of breaking down an old car that someone was going to scrap.
@@nathanlewis5682 I just saw something like that and wrapped a ball of aluminum with salt to be ready for a dross melt. I’m going to try it out to see what happens. 👍
I don't think it is porosity or the finished bar would look like a sponge I think that the aluminium in the tabs and tops are a stiffened alloy to resist the pressure of the beverage. When melted down with the rest of the can the alloy is "watered down" thus becoming less viscose. Any more information about this theory??
I wonder ... how would it be when you and BigstackD are in challenge mode... imagine we get video of TheGrowingStack and BigtstackD in one post like mixing "copper" & "zinc" to get BRASS!!
I just checked this channel up and down cuz I thought it might have been an alt channel of Big's, lol. They're very similar in style, but I'd back Big's skill in that contest.
a NEW way of melting, i don't know if this will work or not, but i suppose you could give it a try, i remember seeing a Fresnel lens setting a piece of paper on fire in less than a second, a long time ago, and was thinking that you might want to try to give it a go, you might want to give this a try on a crucible that you don't mind losing, it could shatter it, though i don't know if it will work or not, they work most efficiently in a place with a lot of sunlight, i will add the link below, you get 2 lenses , and you may want to build a rack to set them in before you attempt to melt melt, it may take a while for the sun to reach the needed temperature to melt, BOTH lenses will need to be focused on to the same spot, BUT, they MUST NOT be placed one on top of the other, it will reduce their effective ness , just focus them both on the same spot and wait, i have no idea how long it will take for things to heat up, or if this will work at all, any way, good luck if you decide to try this, i would love to see if it works, i hope so. www.amazon.com/Fresnel-Acrylic-Magnifier-Heating-Education/dp/B072Q2VX66/ref=asc_df_B071FRGJLJ/?tag=&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416638584393&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7049568935744157285&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011659&hvtargid=pla-947167104397&ref=&adgrpid=93602482973&th=1
I don't know much about metal and how much is lost in grinding and stuff, but could you do a full box-y kinda finish on any metal block, like the ones they show in movies, like the finish on top, but also the same on sides as well.
Yeah, that could totally be done. One of my buddies recently told me I should finish one like that the other day. I might do that in a couple videos from now.
This is one of my hobbies, my stress relief, and what I like to do for fun and enjoyment. I haven’t sold anything yet, but I’m trying to figure out the best way to go about that for me. I’m getting there slowly but surely.
Your scales might be fine. My similar scales don't read amounts less than 2-3 grams very accurately. 4-5 grams and above they are fine. Need more precise scales if you want to measure 1-2 gram lots I would say.
@@TheGrowingStack Watch me is exactly right. Al has a much lower melting point than the dust you used, so it wasn't nearly hot enough to fuse with it. If you were to pour molten copper it would easily melt and fuse with the other elements in that dust.
Can you include the USD amount of the metal if you were to sale it? I am curious if this would be a feasible investment, comparable to those who invest in silver and gold.
I have. I didn’t get it quite hot enough though. It was running out of the crucible very slowly like super thick honey. So it didn’t get it 100% right, and also what I did manage to “pour” cracked pretty quickly. I didn’t put it back into the furnace though to help the annealing process(which I’m not sure I could do correctly anyhow, I think glass needs to slowly cool down over a long period of time) I may try again some day and film it and put it up. 👍
Do you have social media or take your skills on the road too? I wouldn't call it a craft fair, but events like Cedar Lakes, WV, they have an annual event. There are blacksmiths there, people who make knives, carve stuff with chain saws, etc. it is or was a big event there.
Where does someone go for instruction in beginning smelting? I have some scrap copper, aluminum, gold, silver, etc. and would like to get into smelting.
I usually do, but my igniter wasn’t working. Then when I tried to just use a lighter, the gas would just blow it out now matter how little I opened the valve. I don’t what happened to it 🤷♂️ I need a new one for sure now.
@@TheGrowingStack The problem is that the forge is too small to melt that much of any one metal. You need to find a way to melt all of it at once so it is molten at the time you pour it, or it won't fuse. Having said that, it applies to a single metal. If you were to layer metals of increasing melting points, they would fuse to the previous layer to some degree by creating a small amount of alloy with it, and would probably make for a pretty cool video. :-)
Forgot to feed and pat the dogs, drink a beer in front of a Australian flag and most importantly cool your metals in ice followed by throwing a brick on top smashing the remaining ice
Guess what a-hole. BigD copied others for his channel. Take a look at his earliest videos. Not a forge in sight. Others were melting stuff long before he was.
My torch was acting up, so I just lit the paper and tossed it in. Then with a flame going in the furnace already, once I turn the fuel on it will light right up.
I've watched at least 4 different non-ferrous metals smelting channels & so far haven't seen any of them add borax powder to help separate the impurities & gasses. Not even when they're casting something they intend to polish to a high finish. Why is this?
@@patarisman434 Thanks Pat. I must've missed those particular videos. I'll have a look for them. I'm interested to see how much difference it actually makes. I once cast some vee-block clamps from aluminium when I was at school in 1971 & seem to recall that there were no gas bubbles or slag inclusions.
Guess what a-hole. BigD copied others for his channel. Take a look at his earliest videos. Not a forge in sight. Others were melting stuff long before he was. BigD is the clone.
unfortunately his collection of aluminum isn't worth much @ 20 cents pound Where 32 cents pound for cans but if own lathe milling machine sand box making useable objects should be worth more than cans pace industries an local foundry buys aluminum in 100 pound ingots has to be tested inspected for purity ,have a forge not quit as motivated, have forge mill lathe sand box like copper
Screw the haters, you keep doing what you love doing, because we love watching you do it! Well done, sir!
I love your experimentation and the fact that you're still learning - just like us! It sets you apart. Keep up the good work and thank you for the uploads!
all he is is another one of those bigstack copycats.
theres noughting that set him apart from all the other bigstack copycats.
@@dragontechgaming6677 what is it you do? BigstackD has inspired many of us to try this. If you want to melt on UA-cam, how would you not be a copycat at this point, no matter what you do? Have you ever watched Tito4re?
It's so cool how molten aluminum has a solid layer on the outside so it always looks like (and technically IS,) its own little self-contained package, constantly recycling and re-forming that super-thin solid outer coating. I wonder how thick that solid layer is. It must be very thin, like a fraction of a millimeter.
The commitment of actually counting out 3,914 tabs. Respect
I am more impressed by those who say he's right. They must've counted too...
@@jggouvea Palmeiras não tem mundial
DUDE! That intro tune led me to believe that greatness was about to unfold! Great video!!
I can't explain it but I love watching stuff melt.🐎
I bought a small crafting vice which I just set up. I didn't notice till I used it, it has smooth jaws. No grip. Live and learn. I dig your videos. Keep melting.🐎
Oh man! That might come in handy though for certain projects! Thanks Murl! 👍
It doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be done! Great job. Looking forward to your next video.
Thank you Leslie! Always good to hear from you.
I am not sure for how many months I have watched your videos but I really enjoy them. Keep up the good work!
Thank you Ben! I really appreciate it!
That was fun to watch! I just picked up a Devil Forge myself. Getting started soon. Good luck pouring.
The camera angle and asmr style reminds me of Big stackD.
I liked how the powder added color to the bar...
Awesome bar man an thanks for your time enjoy the videos
Lol when the dust bar came out! Shows the difference in the melting points of the different metals
Hello from NY. My family collects can tabs as a fundraiser for our local cancer support group. I recently turned in 1800 pounds of just tabs. That was 15 full 55 gallon barrels of tabs. We get 50 cents per lb for them. I've often thought it would benefit us to melt them down first but it looks like it might hurt us more than help. It was very interesting watching you melt those down. I would be interested in buying some of your cancer ribbon ingots if you can pour them a bit thinner.
Aluminum is my all time fav looking melts. I love the beautiful shine on them. I would love to buy a ingot from you but the shipping would cost wayyyyy more than what its worth lol Loved this video.
Thanks Lisa! Where are you at?
@@TheGrowingStack I live in a small town called Duncan and its in Oklahoma. I recycle all my aluminum cans and right now I have about 200 or so pounds to turn in !!!
@@lisazdankiewicz8846 send me an email.
TheGrowingStack@gmail.com
@@TheGrowingStack I sent you a email.
At what point do you anticipate your dresser will fall through the floor?
Dude 113 out and you got long sleeves and sat there to count out 3,914 tabs??? 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I gotta hand it to y’a brother, I wouldn’t have done it lol as the old saying said, do it for the vine 🤣🤣🤣🍻🤜🏻🤛🏻
If the sleeves are a lightweight cotton, it is actually preferable.
I live in the Desert Southwest and the thing with dry heat is the heat from direct sun exposure. You ever stand in front of a throw heater and get too warm on your face, but your clothing sort of buffers it? It is like that.
The whole trick is super breathable fabric so you get airflow, but enough protection that your skin is shaded.
Note, all the above means nothing in humid weather.
Great video as always 💪🏻👍🏻 Lovely mirror finish btw!
Thanks Ricardo!
Wow, still Learning here- keep them Coming!!! That mirror Shire takes time, I've Tried gave up.
Looking good, awesome shine on that bar. Al never does to well in the graphite shape molds, that oxide bubble always messes things up. It would be more trouble, but if you could make a plate with a sprue hole, and clamp it with the mold and pour it vertically, they work pretty good.
Thanks Wulf!
I can't wait to get my own in, I hope its as fun as it looks!
If you are anything like me, you’ll be melting all the time and having so much fun.
I appreciate the ribbon mold, but it either sucks, not machined deep enough or your metal is not hot or viscous enough. Great video and never stop experimenting!
Wow. I've been saving scrap aluminum I've been finding while enjoying the outdoors. Its mostly been Aluminum Pull Tabs. lol
That was a lot of tabs to count. Cool video.
Thank you Donavan! I had a lot of fun making it!
That’s so cool! I wonder what household metals I can burn Down easily for a tiny cast. Hmmm.
Great sharing
Lol, your sander reminds me of your “floor grinder” from way back when 😂
Lol, you remember the floor grinder! 👍
That’s awesome brother! Thanks for being with me since the beginning!!!
4:32 that looks so cool for some reason a firy pot & cool metal inside. Looks bazaar
Great job❤
Skull: Hello.
Shiny ingot: Geeyah! 🙊
when your parents say "so *That* is why he was collecting all of those."
That amount of soda cans where those tabs come from...
Job Well Done 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thank you Norma Jean!! I appreciate it as always!
Good job.
I dont know if anybody else has commented on it, but, the one with the dust, very nice idea, but I think it will take a metal with at least same meltingpoint, or higher to combine🤔?, not sure, just a thought,…
Well done
Thank you!!
bro got supplied with one day worth of pop tabs from caseoh
Great Work!!!
Thanks Charity!!!
You should get a new ribbon mold made that has a little bit deeper cut. It might turn out a bit better for you.. As for that powder you sprinkled on before the pour. Maybe you have to heat it up before the pour.
Random thought, I also suggested this to the other guy, if I could do what you do, I would do a series of smelt videos of breaking down an old car that someone was going to scrap.
Theyd need to be able to melt steel/iron too, which wouldn't happen in these little forges
Smelt odd
Melt metal
Furnace, not forge or foundry
brown shut up?
Love it. I can get behind the ribbon, got it tattooed on me with "Fu-- Cancer" as the sideways ck. Worst shit I've been through
Great work especially in that heat. Why was the aluminium so viscose? The glow of the crucible shows that it was hot enough.
I’m not sure, I’m almost starting to doubt myself on the heat. I ran at almost .01 mPa. Maybe I need to go a little higher or adjust the choke?
I saw on myfordboy using iodized salt to prevent porosity in the aluminum during the melt.
@@nathanlewis5682 I just saw something like that and wrapped a ball of aluminum with salt to be ready for a dross melt. I’m going to try it out to see what happens. 👍
I don't think it is porosity or the finished bar would look like a sponge I think that the aluminium in the tabs and tops are a stiffened alloy to resist the pressure of the beverage. When melted down with the rest of the can the alloy is "watered down" thus becoming less viscose.
Any more information about this theory??
Huh. Well that proved the rumor about magnesium in these making reject unsafe dead ass wrong now doesn't it. Well shown sir!
Thanks Josh!
New sub. love it.
I wonder ... how would it be when you and BigstackD are in challenge mode... imagine we get video of TheGrowingStack and BigtstackD in one post like mixing "copper" & "zinc" to get BRASS!!
I just checked this channel up and down cuz I thought it might have been an alt channel of Big's, lol. They're very similar in style, but I'd back Big's skill in that contest.
@@babidavi6910 yeah thts right
a NEW way of melting, i don't know if this will work or not, but i suppose you could give it a try, i remember seeing a Fresnel lens setting a piece of paper on fire in less than a second, a long time ago, and was thinking that you might want to try to give it a go, you might want to give this a try on a crucible that you don't mind losing, it could shatter it, though i don't know if it will work or not, they work most efficiently in a place with a lot of sunlight, i will add the link below, you get 2 lenses , and you may want to build a rack to set them in before you attempt to melt melt, it may take a while for the sun to reach the needed temperature to melt, BOTH lenses will need to be focused on to the same spot, BUT, they MUST NOT be placed one on top of the other, it will reduce their effective ness , just focus them both on the same spot and wait, i have no idea how long it will take for things to heat up, or if this will work at all, any way, good luck if you decide to try this, i would love to see if it works, i hope so.
www.amazon.com/Fresnel-Acrylic-Magnifier-Heating-Education/dp/B072Q2VX66/ref=asc_df_B071FRGJLJ/?tag=&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416638584393&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7049568935744157285&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011659&hvtargid=pla-947167104397&ref=&adgrpid=93602482973&th=1
Thank you for the info! I’ll check it out.
You can salvage the fresnel lens from a rear projection tv and mount it in a frame. Search youtube for "solar death ray".
My mother passed away to cancer back in October and I was wondering if you could make one of those for me.
Send me an email.
TheGrowingStack@Gmail.com
I don't know much about metal and how much is lost in grinding and stuff, but could you do a full box-y kinda finish on any metal block, like the ones they show in movies, like the finish on top, but also the same on sides as well.
Yeah, that could totally be done. One of my buddies recently told me I should finish one like that the other day. I might do that in a couple videos from now.
I thought the powdered metal was going to fuse more than that. The polished aluminum looks great though.
Same here. Thanks man 👍
I really do think more heat is needed
Try adding a second burner on the opposite side
Imagine just how many cans of soda were used on this 😂
I don't think it was soda....
Used…more like harmed 😱
Im thinking beer!!
You could have bought so much stuff in Fallout Tactics with all those.
It's a Coors Light tab melt night
Nice
Super but how u collect this 😱
Why do all of this? Its pretty interesting but other than collect what you make do you sell what you smelt?
This is one of my hobbies, my stress relief, and what I like to do for fun and enjoyment. I haven’t sold anything yet, but I’m trying to figure out the best way to go about that for me. I’m getting there slowly but surely.
Your scales might be fine. My similar scales don't read amounts less than 2-3 grams very accurately. 4-5 grams and above they are fine. Need more precise scales if you want to measure 1-2 gram lots I would say.
I bet you would get a different result from that mixed dust if you tried it while melting a metal with a much higher melting point than aluminum.
Good point. I’ll have to try it next time I do a copper melt.
@@TheGrowingStack Watch me is exactly right. Al has a much lower melting point than the dust you used, so it wasn't nearly hot enough to fuse with it. If you were to pour molten copper it would easily melt and fuse with the other elements in that dust.
Blocks of white gold😀
Heating your mold up more might help
Can you include the USD amount of the metal if you were to sale it?
I am curious if this would be a feasible investment, comparable to those who invest in silver and gold.
I was always curious why do people separate the tabs from the can? Are they made out of a different kind of metal?
I do because it’s cleaner of a melt once I have enough, there isn’t any liner or ink like the cans have.
I might get into this as a hobby, do you melt the cans too, or just bring them to the redemption center?
I melt the cans as well. Check this one out whenever you have time... if you want to.
ua-cam.com/video/JjPC5a_aoqY/v-deo.html
Is that sand that was trapped in the folds of the metal? WTH is that?
What is the big deal with pull tabs are they beter aloy.
Sweet! What is the thing you put in the drill to sand with called?
Did you include the tabs from those beers you had while counting? XD
I did! 😃
nice with the dust
Yeah comment number 22 😃😃
Have you ever tried to melt glass into an ingot
I have. I didn’t get it quite hot enough though. It was running out of the crucible very slowly like super thick honey. So it didn’t get it 100% right, and also what I did manage to “pour” cracked pretty quickly. I didn’t put it back into the furnace though to help the annealing process(which I’m not sure I could do correctly anyhow, I think glass needs to slowly cool down over a long period of time) I may try again some day and film it and put it up. 👍
4:40 that plastic jar is melting, you shouldn't have hold it on the top of super heated metals....
Do you have social media or take your skills on the road too? I wouldn't call it a craft fair, but events like Cedar Lakes, WV, they have an annual event. There are blacksmiths there, people who make knives, carve stuff with chain saws, etc. it is or was a big event there.
I wish I had ur devil forge it would help me melt copper
Where does someone go for instruction in beginning smelting? I have some scrap copper, aluminum, gold, silver, etc. and would like to get into smelting.
Honestly, I started watching tons of videos on UA-cam and googled every question that came to mind.
@@TheGrowingStack - Thanks. Mind if I pick your brain sometime?
@@davesalisbury1820 of course. Send me an email. TheGrowingStack@gmail.com
@@TheGrowingStack - Thank you!
The song ??
It’s a homemade custom jam, made unique for every video.
@@TheGrowingStack i wish i could listen some of them
Is there any difference between the can and aluminum tab? Or they are both the same? Thanks
I think the tabs are a higher grade aluminum than the cans, don't quote me on that though.
Use a blow torch and you wont have to clean the burnt paper debris
I usually do, but my igniter wasn’t working. Then when I tried to just use a lighter, the gas would just blow it out now matter how little I opened the valve. I don’t what happened to it 🤷♂️ I need a new one for sure now.
I wish I had access to that many tabs. I can make them into chains
Is there any way you can pour a super massive ingot that weights around 50 plus lbs
🤔 I probably could with copper. That would be a monster!
@@TheGrowingStack The problem is that the forge is too small to melt that much of any one metal. You need to find a way to melt all of it at once so it is molten at the time you pour it, or it won't fuse. Having said that, it applies to a single metal. If you were to layer metals of increasing melting points, they would fuse to the previous layer to some degree by creating a small amount of alloy with it, and would probably make for a pretty cool video. :-)
@@TheGrowingStack or I think I have a great challenge for you to try and cast. The infinity gauntlet with all the stones
@@anthonyjernigan5607 🤔 Let me think on that...
2:26 Whoops! I spoke too soon.
That mirror finish broski ……. And was that 10.00 or 10.01 either way crazy weight to be ……..
Forgot to feed and pat the dogs, drink a beer in front of a Australian flag and most importantly cool your metals in ice followed by throwing a brick on top smashing the remaining ice
Guess what a-hole. BigD copied others for his channel. Take a look at his earliest videos. Not a forge in sight. Others were melting stuff long before he was.
My OCD would have made me find another 86 tabs.....
I was almost to that point... I feel your pain Thunder! Great name by the way!
New Jeraey
You keep adding to it, you'll never get it counted
It’s pop that’s right
Sooooooo tell me what is the whole point ?
What is value this bar?
1st lol
I thought there would be a lot less dross and slag.
Me too, but the surface area of all the tabs seems to cause the bulk of it.
💕👍💖
@2:33 Why put the newspaper on top?
My torch was acting up, so I just lit the paper and tossed it in. Then with a flame going in the furnace already, once I turn the fuel on it will light right up.
@@TheGrowingStack Thanks. Makes sense.
He should weigh all the aluminum
I've watched at least 4 different non-ferrous metals smelting channels & so far haven't seen any of them add borax powder to help separate the impurities & gasses. Not even when they're casting something they intend to polish to a high finish. Why is this?
Bigstakd here an there adds borax
@@patarisman434 Thanks Pat. I must've missed those particular videos. I'll have a look for them. I'm interested to see how much difference it actually makes. I once cast some vee-block clamps from aluminium when I was at school in 1971 & seem to recall that there were no gas bubbles or slag inclusions.
If your scale sucks, why not get a better scale?
I find it so strange how there's a guy in America who is like bid stackD clone..
They know each other, he mentions it in a video.
Guess what a-hole. BigD copied others for his channel. Take a look at his earliest videos. Not a forge in sight. Others were melting stuff long before he was. BigD is the clone.
the jar was melting
tennis shoes? best of luck...
5:20 why it be looking like goldfish tho
Osm
unfortunately his collection of aluminum isn't worth much @ 20 cents pound Where 32 cents pound for cans but if own lathe milling machine sand box making useable objects should be worth more than cans pace industries an local foundry buys aluminum in 100 pound ingots has to be tested inspected for purity ,have a forge not quit as motivated, have forge mill lathe sand box like copper