I'm currently planning my very first layout which will be heavily influenced by Teaton. After watching this video I'm thinking that maybe I should start by building a smaller, standalone Inglenook Puzzle to practise the skills needed for the larger layout. I definitely want motor driven points and automatic uncouplers like yours. Thank you so much for all your great Teaton videos.
If it's your first layout I would definitely recommend starting off with something smaller and simpler first to get the basics down. Teaton is a fun layout but it's quite a complex build for a beginner. That said, there's no reason why you couldn't build the shunting puzzle to be later incorporated into a larger layout. Thanks for watching 🤩
Agree with TMRG, go for a small yet fun build. Inglenooks are great. I believe that some TT120 modellers are using N gauge Dapol Easi-Shunts couplings, which are Kadee style magnetic couplers and (I think) fit into tye NEM pocket
Great to see Teaton again and really good to see The Inglenook Shunting Puzzle; your uncoupler is a real boon and love the Class 8 in this scale with its great ModelU figures.
The uncouplers do work really well! Like I said in the video, I was running these shunting moves at the exhibition and a lot of people seemed impressed at how seamless the uncoupling was. Thanks for watching 🤩
It would be good for when running this particular puzzle but during normal shunts on the layout where you want to use the length of the headshunt I'm not sure it would be that helpful. Thanks for watching 😃
nice to see the TT:120 couplings don't suffer what the sprung N gauge ones do - and as such will couple at low speed without pushing the wagons along until the hit something. reliable coupling (and uncoupling) is key with this sort of thing, those uncouplers you made are very good note for this sort of game also a deck of cards helps, especially plain ones, can identify each wagon on its own card and then just deal them out pretty much every goods yard should be able to be used this way (even if as you note the sidings etc are longer)
The Hornby couplings are definitely better for this than the PECO ones... although I've heard that PECO have recently upgraded their couplings. Thanks for watching 😃
Yeah I definitely think TT:120 is the perfect scale for a small shunting layout. Bigger than N so not as fiddly but doesn't up as much space as 00. With the Hornby 08 or upcoming J50 and some wagons you pretty much have everything you need already. Thanks for watching 😃
Technically, you didn’t pull all four wagons onto the headshunt, because you never cleared the second switch (turnout), so you’re good in my book ;-) alternately, you could build your train on the two outsides tracks in two parts and only assemble as the last step before pulling out. That allows the freight house to have cars still loading/unloading. I’ve not seen this before, with the long siding in the middle and contained in a freight house. It creates extra operating challenges, I think. I think I’ll play with that idea myself to see where it goes. :-D
I think in the Inglenook rules it's intended to be that you can move more than 3 wagons from one siding to another - the headshunt is just the easiest way to describe this... but I like your reasoning too. Yes doing the two half in the shorter siding is definitely another way to do it. I was just so focussed on doing what I know while on camera that I completely forgot the rules 😅 Thanks for watching 👍
This is good fun, recently built one of these using some of your techniques and recommended products. You did well considering you are filming and shunting at the same time, takes a lot of concentration and forward planning. Derails are brilliant, great friendly service.
Glad you enjoyed it! Yes filming at the same time as running the puzzle is definitely an added challenge... I'm blaming my mishap with the rules on that 😅 Thanks for watching 👍
Really glad you enjoyed it! If you want to check out the previous versions I did on my other layout you can find the playlist here: ua-cam.com/play/PLrxCs5t2Fkmz3etxYUlKGwPNSN6bSgI-z.html Thanks for watching 😃
Well that was quite inspiring, That Model Railway Guy. I'm really surprised at how well the miniscule TT scale stock performed over the uncoupling ramps, and their running qualities in general. Surely someone will come up with a Jinty, CR 782 or another shunting loco for us steam enthusiasts, though the 08 does very well.
There's the J50 due early next year. Funnily enough I've just been looking at the decorated samples today and it's looking superb. Thanks for watching 😃
Interesting that you feel the price is off-putting considering that there's been quite a substantial sale for TT recently. In act some places have the Class 08 available for around £90 which seems to be quite a bit cheaper than the 00 or even N gauge counterparts. Thanks for watching 😃
Absolutely, that was one of the main reasons for building it in this way and you can then run it up to the main station for a goods delivery. Thanks for watching 😃
Absolutely, the Inglenook Shunting Puzzle fits into a lot of layouts and gives you a nice purpose for shunting rather than just shuffling the wagons around aimlessly. Thanks for watching 😃
Ahhh the good old inglenook. Great video. And first I'm aware of in TT. Been thinking of making an inglenook but with coaches as never seen that. In previous years wouldn't of been possible without compromise but these days with coaches having different numbers should be a bit easier
Ooh that's an interesting idea. That sort of gives me a marshalling yard kind of vibe. Would certainly be an interesting take on the Inglenook Puzzle for sure! Thanks for watching 🤩
Great video, both for explaining the inglenook puzzle and for showing that TT isn't all about tail-chasing. I noticed while playing with some TT Hornby/Tillig/etc couplings the other day that the hook is actually metal and magnetic, so I wonder if an electromagnetic under the track would work (a bit like Kadee, though not as sophisticated). Did you investigate magnetic uncoupling and it didn't work? I'm slightly put off your method by how far the ramps seem to lift some wagons up into the air (plus needing more mechanics to fit them). Thanks again for the video - very much enjoyed it.
We knew we wanted to go down the ramp route from the start so never really looked into using electromagnets. The servos heights can be fine tuned so that they don't lift as high and additionally some of the wagons have had extra weight added so that only the couplings lift, not the whole wagon. Hope that helps and thanks for watching 😃
What a fun shunting game. I think i would like to build that someday. You make it look like fun. The TT120 look great doing it. Thanks for sharing. GOD BLESS from America 🚂💕🚂💕🚂💕🚂💕🚂💕
Loved that video. Just been to Wickes for some plywood to make an Inglenook in OO. I'd love to use your idea for uncouplers and wonder what the thinking is for best placing them on the track plan. Did you find that where you placed yours was ideal or if you started again would you tweak their positions? Thanks for all your inspiration👏
Putting them on straight track is the best - particularly in 00 gauge so that they don't lock together. On this layout the couplings are placed far enough in to the siding that the remaining wagon won't foul the other diverging lines off the turnout. For an inglenook puzzle though you could place them at the maximum wagon length - so measuring out the length of 3 -5 wagons and marking out where the couplings are then putting the decoupler in that position. That way you physically wouldn't be able to leave too many wagons in each siding as you wouldn't be able to uncouple from them. Thanks for watching 😃
If you've seen my series on building the TT:120 layout I went into more detail about the uncouplers there. I tend to laser cut my own mounts these days but you can use something as simple as a section of aluminium channel. Thanks for watching 😃
I enjoyed the other 00 Inglenook videos you made before, this was great watching it iy in TT, maybe do a series making a proper Inglenook layout and theme it, that would be good, dont think its been done yet that I have seen in TT on youtube... only other scales...
I'd love to do an Inglenook layout build at some point. To be honest though I've got lots of ideas and very limited time... and a lack of space too. Thanks for watching 😃
Surely that’s part of the point in having a model railway though! Oh he’s already claimed it, I just borrow it for videos now when I can 😅 Thanks for watching 🤩
I'm so hoping 2025 is the year I finally get my TT layout built. I'm still in the design stage and still awaiting Hornby to announce and release more smaller locomotives, especially in the steam & GWR range.
Winter definitely is a great time to start a new project - especially if you get some supplies for Christmas. Hornby are playing TT:120 releases pretty close to their chest at the moment but from what I’ve been told the GWR stuff is still a way off yet. Thanks for watching 🤩
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy Yeah Castle class is supposed to be our next/first release followed by the Pannier. I'm planning to go to my local Homebase, which is closing down and has upto 50% off, to hopefully get some bits for baseboard making.
Hi there, there's no Arduino used for the uncoupling. Each servo motor is controlled by a simple £4 control board which can be wired up to an external button if desired. If you watch my series on building the layout I covered the process in more detail. Thanks for watching 😃
Do you think I film the videos on the morning they're released? 😅 Most of the videos on this channel take multiple days to film and edit and so are often made weeks in advance. Thanks for watching 👍
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Morning, yes, it's ok, I did know that. Did you enjoy the new show?. It was nice to have space to move around, a few teething problems, I'm sure, but all in all I enjoyed it.
I'm currently planning my very first layout which will be heavily influenced by Teaton. After watching this video I'm thinking that maybe I should start by building a smaller, standalone Inglenook Puzzle to practise the skills needed for the larger layout. I definitely want motor driven points and automatic uncouplers like yours. Thank you so much for all your great Teaton videos.
If it's your first layout I would definitely recommend starting off with something smaller and simpler first to get the basics down. Teaton is a fun layout but it's quite a complex build for a beginner. That said, there's no reason why you couldn't build the shunting puzzle to be later incorporated into a larger layout. Thanks for watching 🤩
Agree with TMRG, go for a small yet fun build. Inglenooks are great. I believe that some TT120 modellers are using N gauge Dapol Easi-Shunts couplings, which are Kadee style magnetic couplers and (I think) fit into tye NEM pocket
The inglenook shunting puzzle is so iconic! Despite the mishap with the four wagons in the head shunt, great work!
It's such a genius little design/game. There's a reason why it's stood the test of time. Thanks for watching 😃
Great to see Teaton again and really good to see The Inglenook Shunting Puzzle; your uncoupler is a real boon and love the Class 8 in this scale with its great ModelU figures.
The uncouplers do work really well! Like I said in the video, I was running these shunting moves at the exhibition and a lot of people seemed impressed at how seamless the uncoupling was. Thanks for watching 🤩
Think you should add a limit of Shunt sign to stop you going into the headshunt with 4 wagons
It would be good for when running this particular puzzle but during normal shunts on the layout where you want to use the length of the headshunt I'm not sure it would be that helpful. Thanks for watching 😃
nice to see the TT:120 couplings don't suffer what the sprung N gauge ones do - and as such will couple at low speed without pushing the wagons along until the hit something.
reliable coupling (and uncoupling) is key with this sort of thing, those uncouplers you made are very good
note for this sort of game also a deck of cards helps, especially plain ones, can identify each wagon on its own card and then just deal them out
pretty much every goods yard should be able to be used this way (even if as you note the sidings etc are longer)
The Hornby couplings are definitely better for this than the PECO ones... although I've heard that PECO have recently upgraded their couplings. Thanks for watching 😃
Always love an Inglenook, and TT really lends itself to small shelf based inglenook shunting layouts. Nice demo
Yeah I definitely think TT:120 is the perfect scale for a small shunting layout. Bigger than N so not as fiddly but doesn't up as much space as 00. With the Hornby 08 or upcoming J50 and some wagons you pretty much have everything you need already. Thanks for watching 😃
Technically, you didn’t pull all four wagons onto the headshunt, because you never cleared the second switch (turnout), so you’re good in my book ;-) alternately, you could build your train on the two outsides tracks in two parts and only assemble as the last step before pulling out. That allows the freight house to have cars still loading/unloading. I’ve not seen this before, with the long siding in the middle and contained in a freight house. It creates extra operating challenges, I think. I think I’ll play with that idea myself to see where it goes. :-D
I think in the Inglenook rules it's intended to be that you can move more than 3 wagons from one siding to another - the headshunt is just the easiest way to describe this... but I like your reasoning too.
Yes doing the two half in the shorter siding is definitely another way to do it. I was just so focussed on doing what I know while on camera that I completely forgot the rules 😅 Thanks for watching 👍
This is good fun, recently built one of these using some of your techniques and recommended products. You did well considering you are filming and shunting at the same time, takes a lot of concentration and forward planning. Derails are brilliant, great friendly service.
Glad you enjoyed it! Yes filming at the same time as running the puzzle is definitely an added challenge... I'm blaming my mishap with the rules on that 😅 Thanks for watching 👍
I have never seen your inglenook shunting puzzle videos before and I think this is a great video. I love the videos by the way
Really glad you enjoyed it! If you want to check out the previous versions I did on my other layout you can find the playlist here: ua-cam.com/play/PLrxCs5t2Fkmz3etxYUlKGwPNSN6bSgI-z.html
Thanks for watching 😃
Well that was quite inspiring, That Model Railway Guy. I'm really surprised at how well the miniscule TT scale stock performed over the uncoupling ramps, and their running qualities in general. Surely someone will come up with a Jinty, CR 782 or another shunting loco for us steam enthusiasts, though the 08 does very well.
There's the J50 due early next year. Funnily enough I've just been looking at the decorated samples today and it's looking superb. Thanks for watching 😃
Very nice video and demonstration😊👍🏼
Ian
Glad you enjoyed it Ian. Thanks for watching 😃
Great part of the layout, I'm drawn to TT but price is off-putting....your videos always a joy to watch.
Interesting that you feel the price is off-putting considering that there's been quite a substantial sale for TT recently. In act some places have the Class 08 available for around £90 which seems to be quite a bit cheaper than the 00 or even N gauge counterparts. Thanks for watching 😃
The great thing about doing inglenook shunting on a layout like this is that the formation you have produced can then be taken away on the mainline.
Absolutely, that was one of the main reasons for building it in this way and you can then run it up to the main station for a goods delivery. Thanks for watching 😃
Was good to bump into you today at the model railway show at the nec, And Thanks for the badge. Keep up with the great content.
Likewise! It's been a busy day but always nice to meet people at shows. Thanks for watching 😃
I always like watching and playing he inglenook shunting puzzle, really great to play if you like shunting in general 😀
Absolutely, the Inglenook Shunting Puzzle fits into a lot of layouts and gives you a nice purpose for shunting rather than just shuffling the wagons around aimlessly. Thanks for watching 😃
Ahhh the good old inglenook. Great video. And first I'm aware of in TT. Been thinking of making an inglenook but with coaches as never seen that. In previous years wouldn't of been possible without compromise but these days with coaches having different numbers should be a bit easier
Ooh that's an interesting idea. That sort of gives me a marshalling yard kind of vibe. Would certainly be an interesting take on the Inglenook Puzzle for sure! Thanks for watching 🤩
Great video, both for explaining the inglenook puzzle and for showing that TT isn't all about tail-chasing. I noticed while playing with some TT Hornby/Tillig/etc couplings the other day that the hook is actually metal and magnetic, so I wonder if an electromagnetic under the track would work (a bit like Kadee, though not as sophisticated). Did you investigate magnetic uncoupling and it didn't work? I'm slightly put off your method by how far the ramps seem to lift some wagons up into the air (plus needing more mechanics to fit them). Thanks again for the video - very much enjoyed it.
We knew we wanted to go down the ramp route from the start so never really looked into using electromagnets. The servos heights can be fine tuned so that they don't lift as high and additionally some of the wagons have had extra weight added so that only the couplings lift, not the whole wagon. Hope that helps and thanks for watching 😃
What a fun shunting game. I think i would like to build that someday. You make it look like fun. The TT120 look great doing it. Thanks for sharing.
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Its definitely a good way to have a fun and engaging layout in a small space. Thanks for watching 😃
Loved that video. Just been to Wickes for some plywood to make an Inglenook in OO. I'd love to use your idea for uncouplers and wonder what the thinking is for best placing them on the track plan. Did you find that where you placed yours was ideal or if you started again would you tweak their positions? Thanks for all your inspiration👏
Putting them on straight track is the best - particularly in 00 gauge so that they don't lock together. On this layout the couplings are placed far enough in to the siding that the remaining wagon won't foul the other diverging lines off the turnout.
For an inglenook puzzle though you could place them at the maximum wagon length - so measuring out the length of 3 -5 wagons and marking out where the couplings are then putting the decoupler in that position. That way you physically wouldn't be able to leave too many wagons in each siding as you wouldn't be able to uncouple from them. Thanks for watching 😃
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy All understood, thank you👍
Can you provide more details on the uncoupling? Are they your own servo mounts? Shunting always fun, 08 really does a good job!
If you've seen my series on building the TT:120 layout I went into more detail about the uncouplers there. I tend to laser cut my own mounts these days but you can use something as simple as a section of aluminium channel. Thanks for watching 😃
I'm definitely contemplating building an Inglenook shunting puzzle in the future.
It's another potential idea to add to the list 😂.
It's definitely an attractive prospect, especially in TT:120 where it really doesn't take up much space at all. Thanks for watching 👍
I enjoyed the other 00 Inglenook videos you made before, this was great watching it iy in TT, maybe do a series making a proper Inglenook layout and theme it, that would be good, dont think its been done yet that I have seen in TT on youtube... only other scales...
I'd love to do an Inglenook layout build at some point. To be honest though I've got lots of ideas and very limited time... and a lack of space too. Thanks for watching 😃
Always great fun . I lose an embarrassing amount of time playing...nice to see the new layout getting some use before your Dad claims it...
Surely that’s part of the point in having a model railway though! Oh he’s already claimed it, I just borrow it for videos now when I can 😅 Thanks for watching 🤩
I'm so hoping 2025 is the year I finally get my TT layout built. I'm still in the design stage and still awaiting Hornby to announce and release more smaller locomotives, especially in the steam & GWR range.
Winter definitely is a great time to start a new project - especially if you get some supplies for Christmas.
Hornby are playing TT:120 releases pretty close to their chest at the moment but from what I’ve been told the GWR stuff is still a way off yet. Thanks for watching 🤩
@@ThatModelRailwayGuy Yeah Castle class is supposed to be our next/first release followed by the Pannier.
I'm planning to go to my local Homebase, which is closing down and has upto 50% off, to hopefully get some bits for baseboard making.
Love seeing this in TT.
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching 😃
Really interested in using your uncoupling technique how did you setup the arduino to control them
Hi there, there's no Arduino used for the uncoupling. Each servo motor is controlled by a simple £4 control board which can be wired up to an external button if desired. If you watch my series on building the layout I covered the process in more detail. Thanks for watching 😃
Thanks
How did you do this when you were at the NEC?
Do you think I film the videos on the morning they're released? 😅 Most of the videos on this channel take multiple days to film and edit and so are often made weeks in advance. Thanks for watching 👍
@ThatModelRailwayGuy Morning, yes, it's ok, I did know that. Did you enjoy the new show?. It was nice to have space to move around, a few teething problems, I'm sure, but all in all I enjoyed it.
I would’ve done it so much differently 😂
That's the beauty of the Inglenook Shunting Puzzle, there's no single right way to solve each combination. Thanks for watching 👍
Luckily it was only you playing the game, so noone will know you had a misstep 😂
Yes good job I don't post about my modelling exploits online... oh wait 😅 Thanks for watching 👍
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