Char got involved with Lalah because he didn't like seeing her being mistreated and used. But he also felt drawn to her as a fellow newtype. Lalah is the one relationship that Char wasn't in for ulterior motives.
I like the points you raise and I think that’s how other media tells it. But how it’s presented in The Origin makes me think Char isn’t a totally night in shining armor (which as a Char fanboy, I’d rather believe). It’s mainly in his tone of voice. I think he wants to help her, but they way he offers to touch up her family photo seems like he was looking for leverage. After their encounter with gangster, his voice then shifts to a more sincere town. I also didn’t think Char was new type at this point. He doesn’t exhibit the behaviors until the very end of the OG series, at least to any where near Amuro’s level.
@@CrazyKnuckles he has never been a knight in shining armour, my point is if he had survived CCA and Nanai had not he would not have carried the grudge of her or Ques' death like he did for Lalah's. She was very clearly more than a pawn to him. And I honestly didn't except him as a new type until the Sazabi showed up rocking funnies lol so I get where you are coming from.
Lalah had been the first true New Type that Char had encountered which is a much bigger deal than people believe. His father had been an advocate for all Spacenoids and had fought for the rise of the next evolution of human beings. That's exactly what Lahlah was to Char. He wasn't in love with her but infatuated by her presence like a newborn child is to his/her mother (Char basically says this in the movie). I am far from happy with the direction of the character (especially coming from Zeta), without the given context as to why he completely turns heel. Maybe it's the time skip, maybe it's the events of Double Zeta, or maybe it's what happened to Kamille. I wish they just approached it better but I also do feel that the events of CCA doesn't fully betray his characterization as his overall objective to have humanity migrate to outer space is still kinda the same...he just decided that he wants to approach it in a more radical manner. Of course, I do have my own theories as to why he turns heel and why he's absent from Double Zeta but I don't want to bore anyone with any more of my bs.
@@MRIlls LOL! He DIDN'T carry the grudge of Lalah's death. That's one of the main takeaways of 0079. He was TEMPTED by Kycillia, but he pulled back at last moment. That's the whole takeaway! He COULD have taken the dark path but he didn't. He DID however, carried grudge for Recoa and Minerva. Watch Zeta again. I can understand why people think otherwise. After all, not even AMURO understood what Char was about in CCA, even WHEN Lalah vouched for him. If you understood what he ACTUALLY did in CCA, you'll realize that he's a FUCKING SAINT! And no, he felt no attachment for Quess or Haman or any kids (kids are drawn to HIM as a father figure, NOT the other way around. He was trying to get AMURO to realize that HE should have been a father figure). Remember it wasn't Char that killed her. Actually, he WAS that father figure to Kamille, who NEEDED it.
Char was using Quess as a way to hurt Amuro but he failed to see that Quess was looking for a father not a lover. This is why Amuro's words hurt Char so much at the end leading to him bring up Lalah as a way to hurt Amuro. The Irony was that Quess was the same as Kamille.
I love the discussion I’m seeing here! My first time watching the CCA I saw this, but Gynei’s accusation about Char is pretty serious and since Char lies a lot in this movie, I still wondered if he had any interest in Quess. When I finished making this video, I realized his admission to Amuro at face value.
@@CrazyKnuckles gynei's claims of Char being a pedo is a miss understanding of char. He was only a year or 2 older than Lalah and viewed her as his spiritual mother. in deleted affair Char turns down Haman's advances on him because she is to young. Char being around 21 and Haman having just turned 15. This was also in the context of Lalah's ghost trying to convince him to get with Haman saying that it would be the happiest rout for him. Lalah being able to see the future now that she had ascended and yet Char still refuses. Nanai is in a lot of ways the anti version of Lalah. While she does question his actions she also goes right along with them comforting Char the whole time. where Lalah would have scolded Char if she felt he was taking the wrong path. Lalah saved Char's life by convincing him to wear a space suit even tho he hated it. She also pushed him towards talking with Sayla even tho he was trying to avoid putting her in danger. I find the characters in gundam to be rather interesting when you look deeper in to them. Char being one of the most as the series is about finding understanding with each other yet Char who falls in to the chosen one trope is also the one that has the hardest time understanding others. only ever reaching understanding with Amuro when their about to die. Another interesting thing I noticed from CCA is that Char was very much planning to die. When he gives his speech he mentions only being able to join his father after having dropped axis on earth. He is also shown to be very depressed and is even able to acknowledge what he is doing as evil. As for Quess as I said earlier she was Char last chance at saving his life. Had he realized she was looking for a father and thus filled the hole in his heart that was left by what happen to Kamille Char would have lived but his own inability to understand others lead to his death. And it took Amuro dying as well to save Char's soul in the ended which is rather sad for Amuro who for the most tried to do the right thing.
Thats why I don't consider her annoying She was only trying to get Char to realize that he was a father to her but Char being ignorant and more busy on idk *TRYING TO DESTROY EARTH* never noticed This is why Char goes down on one of the most clueless boys in gundam-_-
Origin shows that the trauma of losing his mother the way it happened really, really fucked him up. I don't think Char was actually capable of conventional "Love" anymore. Casval loved his mother so much that Char spent the rest of his life unable to move on.
Here's something to think about. Char did go for Nanai not just because she could help him, but because he saw her as an equal. Some guys don't want a subservient woman who is helpless all the time. Some guys want someone who is able to handle their shit and that also leads to a possibility that she went into hiding after Chars Counter Attack. Nanai seems to have been one Char saw as an equal, but was manipulative with others as a survival instinct as a result of how he grew up.
He can be all 3. Char is an egotistical, manipulative and self serving but sometimes his goals aren't that bad (like being Quattro Bagina in the AEUG) or sometimes they're completely awful (dropping colonies on Earth).
I'm in agreement. Char has a serious psychological issues. His father being a bit of a narcissist, but that's overshadowed by how his family was torn apart by the Zabi's. His education by Jimba Ral also gave him a deep seeded hatred in a way despite the best intentions of Jimba Ral. The attempts on his life and having to also kill at a young age also had serious affects.
The Zeta Gundam manga actually gives great insight into Char. In one chapter he admits that by that time of the story, whether he goes by the name of Casval, Char or Quattro, he is never truly himself but acting according to what others expect of him, and he doesn't know who he is himself anymore. It is the same in CCA where he embrace his Casval persona to lead the Zeon remnants and in the end his excuse of avenging Lalah really felt like a pretext for him to commit suicide via Amuro.
I wonder if you know about "Char's Deleted Affair". Its a manga that takes place right after he kill Kycilia Zabi and made his escape to axis. He later met Lt. Natalie Bianchi who was at the time friend/ big sister to Haman Karn. It is a fun read that tells how Char becomes Quattro. With a little leg work you can find all 14 translated volumes. As fare as love intrest goes Natalie could have been Mrs. Aznable, Bajeena, Mass, and Deikun.
Agree, Natalie story is tragic because it really was a crossroad for Char, who could have ended up forming a family with her. But at the same time, it's his treatment of Haman that eventually led to the tragic events of the manga.
Great video! I honestly don't think The Origin OVA is very useful for interpreting Char's behavior in First Gundam through CCA, because the way Char is portrayed in The Origin is so wildly different from how Char was in Tomino's works that they're essentially different characters. Origin Char is this hypercompetent mastermind-level badass who is good at everything and is constantly scheming and manipulating everyone around him, which just does not match up with Char in First Gundam and especially not in Zeta. One thing I think you're missing re: Reccoa is that the scene in which Kamille confronts Char after Reccoa's supposed death is very important for understanding how Char felt about her and their relationship. After punching him across the room, Kamille asks, "If you had just been a little more kind to Ms. Reccoa, this wouldn't have happened! Don't you realize that?" and Char's response is to just sort of stare into the middle distance and make a comment about Reccoa's cactus. My interpretation of this scene is that Char is having feelings about Reccoa's apparent death, but because he's an actual sociopath, he simply has no way of untangling his feelings or comprehending emotions. His response is one of complete emotional detachment... which, to me, is a sign that he truly did have feelings for Reccoa, but his lack of empathy made it impossible for him to properly act on them or understand what she wanted from him. I also disagree that we can take Char's "I only care about two things" line at face value. Char says different things to different people depending on what he thinks is the most effective way to get them to do what he wants. He wants Gyunei to shut up about him and Quess and focus on the current goal: victory for Neo Zeon and defeating Amuro. Regardless of whether or not that's actually what Char wants (which I think he genuinely does, though not necessarily so exclusively), it's what he needs Gyunei to believe that he wants. I think the only line from Char in CCA that can be taken at face value is the "Lalah could've been a mother to me" line. The way that it almost comes out of nowhere and is delivered with such raw emotion feels unlike anything else Char says, as if he's finally burned through all of his masks and personas and all that's left is the real Casval: an emotionally-stunted child who just wants his mom.
It's said that a Person nearing their Death reveals their deepest and truest thoughts for the final time. So in Canon the last name Char had on his tongue was Lalah Sune. She's the name he took last before his death. If that's not proof, I don't know what is.
Outside the obvious Amuro answer, I'd place my bets on Natalie Bianchi (who legitimately gave him hope for the future, even has the unborn child cred) and Nanai Miguel to a lesser extent (a person he can see as a possible equal). Char just didn't see Haman that way, Lalah was a respite for his tortured soul, Reccoa (Char was still disassociated due to Natalie's death so they couldn't make a real connection, and had bigger fish to fry in the AEUG), and Quess were tools for various reasons.
Pretty solid breakdown. I still say Lalah is his first love there for his hardest one to get over, this is why we see that it haunts so much. Still you nailed it with Char's love interest if you discount his deleted love affair manga. Char had always been after people that fit his goals at the time.
I for one tend to think he was more using Quess as a tool than anything else, much like Haman used Cello. But I think we would get more if an actual shrink did a analysis of Char. If there is a point in time I would like to see in his life it’s possibly filling in the gaps between MSG-Zeta, during ZZ Gundam (Probably to explain the back room dealing.), and ZZ-Char’s Counterattack. Just to fill in the holes for that very analysis.
I feel like Char is a damaged man who only ended up using people. He was so consumed by his quest for revenge before and during the OYW that anyone he was close to, he was using. Look at Garma. It's clear from him not showing any remorse that Char didn't care about him at all. Char recruited Lalah so he could use her, but I think he did develop genuine feelings for her before she died. She probably could have turned his life around, but we'll never know. After OYW, I think Char was trying to be a better man and trying to find real meaning in his life. But he just kept seeing cruelty, greed and callousness in humanity that it made him lose hope. This is especially true when you take Char's Deleted Affair into account. By CCA, I don't think Char cared about anyone or anything. Everyone close to him, everyone who believed in him and everything he had was just a means to an end. That end? To die in a glorious duel against his greatest opponent, Amuro Ray. It's pretty clear he despised Quess and only saw her for her Newtype potential. I think he was perhaps fond of Nanai and he certainly valued her usefulness and intelligence, but I don't think he was capable of loving anyone at that point. Char was just too far gone into the abyss of despair to feel love. It's all the more tragic because Char had the potential to be a great man who did good for humanity and its future.
this doesn't seem fair to project the idea that Japaneseness is more tolerant of Chars sick relationship. It seems they are more tolerant of a certain kind of edgy storytelling that is willing to include such nastiness but every character is saying that it's creepy so I don't think it's fair to project that the Japanese are more tolerant of that kind of bullshit
Man, I really hope Nanai and Char really got a kid and that kid is Uso's mother, making the theory confirmed and canon that Uso Ewing is Char's grandson
Wait, why would Char be in Brazil, the landmass where Federal HQ, aka Jaburo is located and is federation controlled territory? Plus, wouldn't it have made sense for Char to meet Lalah in the Indian subcontinent or Malaysia? Especially since those areas would be connected to central Asia, which is neutral territory?
@@KaiserStormTracking That doesn't make sense either. Char would have just abandoned his mission to hunt down and murder one of the members of the Zabis to make them pay. If he deviated from his path before killing Garma, he also would have taken up his father's ideals to build a world of newtypes. Granted the novelisation does a better job of this, but it does give insight to why Char gave up his revenge and pursued fulfilling his father's will.
@@CosmoShidan he didn’t have much choice, he was essentially forced by dozle to go into “vacation” as punishment for him and garma getting into antics. He needed to leave zeon so why not go to earth for some part time work?
Char didn't care about Quess. She was a tool and the second she starts getting clingy and starts asking questions he pushes her away and creates a distance between them. He wasn't interested in anyone, everyone was a pawn to him. Nanai, Gyunei, Quess were all tools in his war with Amuro. Char only ever cared about Char and maybe Lalah, but if you look only at Tomino's works even Lalah is debatable because he uses her like any other tool when she's alive, and when she dies she's just another excuse in a long list of excuses as to why Casval is Char and why nothing is ever his fault.
Char is cool and all but Quattro Bajeena and Casval Deikun are better.
But you have to admit that Char and Quattro (not a Char) share the same taste in sunglasses.
Char's love interest is clearly Amuro Ray
I wanted to say Kamille but he's abit too young
This is the only correct answer
Your logic makes sense
@@charaznable. too young is not a thing too char
Char got involved with Lalah because he didn't like seeing her being mistreated and used. But he also felt drawn to her as a fellow newtype. Lalah is the one relationship that Char wasn't in for ulterior motives.
I like the points you raise and I think that’s how other media tells it. But how it’s presented in The Origin makes me think Char isn’t a totally night in shining armor (which as a Char fanboy, I’d rather believe).
It’s mainly in his tone of voice. I think he wants to help her, but they way he offers to touch up her family photo seems like he was looking for leverage. After their encounter with gangster, his voice then shifts to a more sincere town.
I also didn’t think Char was new type at this point. He doesn’t exhibit the behaviors until the very end of the OG series, at least to any where near Amuro’s level.
@@CrazyKnuckles he has never been a knight in shining armour, my point is if he had survived CCA and Nanai had not he would not have carried the grudge of her or Ques' death like he did for Lalah's. She was very clearly more than a pawn to him. And I honestly didn't except him as a new type until the Sazabi showed up rocking funnies lol so I get where you are coming from.
Lalah had been the first true New Type that Char had encountered which is a much bigger deal than people believe. His father had been an advocate for all Spacenoids and had fought for the rise of the next evolution of human beings. That's exactly what Lahlah was to Char. He wasn't in love with her but infatuated by her presence like a newborn child is to his/her mother (Char basically says this in the movie).
I am far from happy with the direction of the character (especially coming from Zeta), without the given context as to why he completely turns heel. Maybe it's the time skip, maybe it's the events of Double Zeta, or maybe it's what happened to Kamille. I wish they just approached it better but I also do feel that the events of CCA doesn't fully betray his characterization as his overall objective to have humanity migrate to outer space is still kinda the same...he just decided that he wants to approach it in a more radical manner.
Of course, I do have my own theories as to why he turns heel and why he's absent from Double Zeta but I don't want to bore anyone with any more of my bs.
@@MRIlls LOL! He DIDN'T carry the grudge of Lalah's death. That's one of the main takeaways of 0079. He was TEMPTED by Kycillia, but he pulled back at last moment. That's the whole takeaway! He COULD have taken the dark path but he didn't.
He DID however, carried grudge for Recoa and Minerva. Watch Zeta again.
I can understand why people think otherwise. After all, not even AMURO understood what Char was about in CCA, even WHEN Lalah vouched for him. If you understood what he ACTUALLY did in CCA, you'll realize that he's a FUCKING SAINT!
And no, he felt no attachment for Quess or Haman or any kids (kids are drawn to HIM as a father figure, NOT the other way around. He was trying to get AMURO to realize that HE should have been a father figure). Remember it wasn't Char that killed her. Actually, he WAS that father figure to Kamille, who NEEDED it.
@@Neethan3247 I definitely wanna hear those theories thou so feel free to respond
We all know that Char is in love with Amuro, after Zeta and how they looked at each other when they met again no one can deny that
My man
The only person he wanted to see/talk to in the whole movie was Amuro
Confirmed by the series creator & writer
I mean in Counterattack, he is pretty much just hoping they will come across each other.
Amuro, duh
all these woman were an attempt to make Amuro jealous lol
He loved amuro
When it comes to Quess, Char's conversation with Amuro about her before they die confirms that he was just using her.
Char was using Quess as a way to hurt Amuro but he failed to see that Quess was looking for a father not a lover. This is why Amuro's words hurt Char so much at the end leading to him bring up Lalah as a way to hurt Amuro. The Irony was that Quess was the same as Kamille.
I love the discussion I’m seeing here! My first time watching the CCA I saw this, but Gynei’s accusation about Char is pretty serious and since Char lies a lot in this movie, I still wondered if he had any interest in Quess. When I finished making this video, I realized his admission to Amuro at face value.
@@CrazyKnuckles gynei's claims of Char being a pedo is a miss understanding of char. He was only a year or 2 older than Lalah and viewed her as his spiritual mother. in deleted affair Char turns down Haman's advances on him because she is to young. Char being around 21 and Haman having just turned 15. This was also in the context of Lalah's ghost trying to convince him to get with Haman saying that it would be the happiest rout for him. Lalah being able to see the future now that she had ascended and yet Char still refuses.
Nanai is in a lot of ways the anti version of Lalah. While she does question his actions she also goes right along with them comforting Char the whole time. where Lalah would have scolded Char if she felt he was taking the wrong path. Lalah saved Char's life by convincing him to wear a space suit even tho he hated it. She also pushed him towards talking with Sayla even tho he was trying to avoid putting her in danger.
I find the characters in gundam to be rather interesting when you look deeper in to them. Char being one of the most as the series is about finding understanding with each other yet Char who falls in to the chosen one trope is also the one that has the hardest time understanding others. only ever reaching understanding with Amuro when their about to die.
Another interesting thing I noticed from CCA is that Char was very much planning to die. When he gives his speech he mentions only being able to join his father after having dropped axis on earth. He is also shown to be very depressed and is even able to acknowledge what he is doing as evil.
As for Quess as I said earlier she was Char last chance at saving his life. Had he realized she was looking for a father and thus filled the hole in his heart that was left by what happen to Kamille Char would have lived but his own inability to understand others lead to his death. And it took Amuro dying as well to save Char's soul in the ended which is rather sad for Amuro who for the most tried to do the right thing.
Thats why I don't consider her annoying
She was only trying to get Char to realize that he was a father to her but Char being ignorant and more busy on idk *TRYING TO DESTROY EARTH* never noticed
This is why Char goes down on one of the most clueless boys in gundam-_-
@@KaiserStormTracking
Quess wanted screw him. She was very misguided and emotionally sensitive like most most young developing NewTypes are.
Quess: The Captain really does love me! Char: Imma about to turn this girl into a destructive Newtype weapon..
Char/Casval/Quattro being surrounded by tons of young Bajeena
Origin shows that the trauma of losing his mother the way it happened really, really fucked him up. I don't think Char was actually capable of conventional "Love" anymore. Casval loved his mother so much that Char spent the rest of his life unable to move on.
*Essentially, Char is just the biggest player in the galaxy…*
@Boba Fett why?
I saw the og series, the origin and char’s counterattack. My opinion is that he never got over lalah
Here's something to think about. Char did go for Nanai not just because she could help him, but because he saw her as an equal. Some guys don't want a subservient woman who is helpless all the time. Some guys want someone who is able to handle their shit and that also leads to a possibility that she went into hiding after Chars Counter Attack. Nanai seems to have been one Char saw as an equal, but was manipulative with others as a survival instinct as a result of how he grew up.
char is too complex. honestly i dont know if he's a sociopath, a narcissist or a hero. i want to watch a video from a psychiatrist to analyze him haha
He can be all 3. Char is an egotistical, manipulative and self serving but sometimes his goals aren't that bad (like being Quattro Bagina in the AEUG) or sometimes they're completely awful (dropping colonies on Earth).
I'm in agreement. Char has a serious psychological issues. His father being a bit of a narcissist, but that's overshadowed by how his family was torn apart by the Zabi's. His education by Jimba Ral also gave him a deep seeded hatred in a way despite the best intentions of Jimba Ral. The attempts on his life and having to also kill at a young age also had serious affects.
The Zeta Gundam manga actually gives great insight into Char. In one chapter he admits that by that time of the story, whether he goes by the name of Casval, Char or Quattro, he is never truly himself but acting according to what others expect of him, and he doesn't know who he is himself anymore. It is the same in CCA where he embrace his Casval persona to lead the Zeon remnants and in the end his excuse of avenging Lalah really felt like a pretext for him to commit suicide via Amuro.
Amuro, I'm doing something wicked.
I wonder if you know about "Char's Deleted Affair". Its a manga that takes place right after he kill Kycilia Zabi and made his escape to axis. He later met Lt. Natalie Bianchi who was at the time friend/ big sister to Haman Karn. It is a fun read that tells how Char becomes Quattro. With a little leg work you can find all 14 translated volumes. As fare as love intrest goes Natalie could have been Mrs. Aznable, Bajeena, Mass, and Deikun.
i second this
Agree, Natalie story is tragic because it really was a crossroad for Char, who could have ended up forming a family with her. But at the same time, it's his treatment of Haman that eventually led to the tragic events of the manga.
Great video! I honestly don't think The Origin OVA is very useful for interpreting Char's behavior in First Gundam through CCA, because the way Char is portrayed in The Origin is so wildly different from how Char was in Tomino's works that they're essentially different characters. Origin Char is this hypercompetent mastermind-level badass who is good at everything and is constantly scheming and manipulating everyone around him, which just does not match up with Char in First Gundam and especially not in Zeta.
One thing I think you're missing re: Reccoa is that the scene in which Kamille confronts Char after Reccoa's supposed death is very important for understanding how Char felt about her and their relationship. After punching him across the room, Kamille asks, "If you had just been a little more kind to Ms. Reccoa, this wouldn't have happened! Don't you realize that?" and Char's response is to just sort of stare into the middle distance and make a comment about Reccoa's cactus. My interpretation of this scene is that Char is having feelings about Reccoa's apparent death, but because he's an actual sociopath, he simply has no way of untangling his feelings or comprehending emotions. His response is one of complete emotional detachment... which, to me, is a sign that he truly did have feelings for Reccoa, but his lack of empathy made it impossible for him to properly act on them or understand what she wanted from him.
I also disagree that we can take Char's "I only care about two things" line at face value. Char says different things to different people depending on what he thinks is the most effective way to get them to do what he wants. He wants Gyunei to shut up about him and Quess and focus on the current goal: victory for Neo Zeon and defeating Amuro. Regardless of whether or not that's actually what Char wants (which I think he genuinely does, though not necessarily so exclusively), it's what he needs Gyunei to believe that he wants. I think the only line from Char in CCA that can be taken at face value is the "Lalah could've been a mother to me" line. The way that it almost comes out of nowhere and is delivered with such raw emotion feels unlike anything else Char says, as if he's finally burned through all of his masks and personas and all that's left is the real Casval: an emotionally-stunted child who just wants his mom.
Answer is nobody he loved himself and that's it
It's said that a Person nearing their Death reveals their deepest and truest thoughts for the final time.
So in Canon the last name Char had on his tongue was Lalah Sune. She's the name he took last before his death. If that's not proof, I don't know what is.
spoiler: it's amuro
Wish you included Haman karn or the rest from the manga. I'm pretty sure Char had a gf with an unborn child.
Char's deleted affair
Haman Karn
Natalie
Yeah, Char just used my baby girl Quess.
Outside the obvious Amuro answer, I'd place my bets on Natalie Bianchi (who legitimately gave him hope for the future, even has the unborn child cred) and Nanai Miguel to a lesser extent (a person he can see as a possible equal).
Char just didn't see Haman that way, Lalah was a respite for his tortured soul, Reccoa (Char was still disassociated due to Natalie's death so they couldn't make a real connection, and had bigger fish to fry in the AEUG), and Quess were tools for various reasons.
For me it's lala, heck she was even the reason why char started another war
Pretty solid breakdown. I still say Lalah is his first love there for his hardest one to get over, this is why we see that it haunts so much. Still you nailed it with Char's love interest if you discount his deleted love affair manga. Char had always been after people that fit his goals at the time.
AMURO!!!!
Char’s one true love has always remained the same, screwing people over 😂
Char fully embodied treat 'em mean, keep 'em keen.
Lol
Amuro... It was ALWAYS Amuro.
I for one tend to think he was more using Quess as a tool than anything else, much like Haman used Cello. But I think we would get more if an actual shrink did a analysis of Char. If there is a point in time I would like to see in his life it’s possibly filling in the gaps between MSG-Zeta, during ZZ Gundam (Probably to explain the back room dealing.), and ZZ-Char’s Counterattack. Just to fill in the holes for that very analysis.
I feel like Char is a damaged man who only ended up using people.
He was so consumed by his quest for revenge before and during the OYW that anyone he was close to, he was using. Look at Garma. It's clear from him not showing any remorse that Char didn't care about him at all. Char recruited Lalah so he could use her, but I think he did develop genuine feelings for her before she died. She probably could have turned his life around, but we'll never know.
After OYW, I think Char was trying to be a better man and trying to find real meaning in his life. But he just kept seeing cruelty, greed and callousness in humanity that it made him lose hope. This is especially true when you take Char's Deleted Affair into account.
By CCA, I don't think Char cared about anyone or anything. Everyone close to him, everyone who believed in him and everything he had was just a means to an end. That end? To die in a glorious duel against his greatest opponent, Amuro Ray.
It's pretty clear he despised Quess and only saw her for her Newtype potential. I think he was perhaps fond of Nanai and he certainly valued her usefulness and intelligence, but I don't think he was capable of loving anyone at that point. Char was just too far gone into the abyss of despair to feel love.
It's all the more tragic because Char had the potential to be a great man who did good for humanity and its future.
I wanted him to be with Natalie Bianchi so much
The closest person to being a love interest for Char is Lalah.
Char only love Amuro.
Not Haman, that's for sure
Char couldn't keep it in his pants.
this doesn't seem fair to project the idea that Japaneseness is more tolerant of Chars sick relationship. It seems they are more tolerant of a certain kind of edgy storytelling that is willing to include such nastiness but every character is saying that it's creepy so I don't think it's fair to project that the Japanese are more tolerant of that kind of bullshit
Char was a pump and dump kinda guy. The alpha mentality.
Man, I really hope Nanai and Char really got a kid and that kid is Uso's mother, making the theory confirmed and canon that Uso Ewing is Char's grandson
Also didn't mention Haman's love for Char (was in a spin off manga)
Amuro, Kamille and Garma. Lalah was his mom.
Char is too cool for all of them
Wait, why would Char be in Brazil, the landmass where Federal HQ, aka Jaburo is located and is federation controlled territory? Plus, wouldn't it have made sense for Char to meet Lalah in the Indian subcontinent or Malaysia? Especially since those areas would be connected to central Asia, which is neutral territory?
That was during Char before the start of the war
@@KaiserStormTracking That doesn't make sense either. Char would have just abandoned his mission to hunt down and murder one of the members of the Zabis to make them pay. If he deviated from his path before killing Garma, he also would have taken up his father's ideals to build a world of newtypes. Granted the novelisation does a better job of this, but it does give insight to why Char gave up his revenge and pursued fulfilling his father's will.
@@CosmoShidan he didn’t have much choice, he was essentially forced by dozle to go into “vacation” as punishment for him and garma getting into antics. He needed to leave zeon so why not go to earth for some part time work?
Char only used Quess because of her new type potential. He did not love her, but only treated her nicely for his own ends.
Char loves Amuro. He would marry Nanai for an heir and keep many lovers around who was dazzled by the shooting star.
Layla aaaaaah got me on my knees Lalah!!!
Char didn't care about Quess. She was a tool and the second she starts getting clingy and starts asking questions he pushes her away and creates a distance between them. He wasn't interested in anyone, everyone was a pawn to him. Nanai, Gyunei, Quess were all tools in his war with Amuro. Char only ever cared about Char and maybe Lalah, but if you look only at Tomino's works even Lalah is debatable because he uses her like any other tool when she's alive, and when she dies she's just another excuse in a long list of excuses as to why Casval is Char and why nothing is ever his fault.
Should of put Haman Kharn in the thumbnail so it would be quattro bajeenas
Haman is the female version of Char.
Kamille