It is said that Dumbledores patronus is a Phoenix. If that's the case then his animagus form should also be a Phoenix.?.?... Would his possible Phoenix form have all the abilities of an actual Phoenix? Tears? Fire? Rebirth? Carry extremely heavy loads?
Sounds like you’re far away from the mic and I’d much prefer your beautiful voice as if you’re standing next to me whispering in my ear lol. It helps me sleep better lol.
The fact that there are 4 unregistered animagi just within narrative proximity to Harry demonstrates that the Ministry registry is woefully underreported.
@@SquashGuy02134 if you don't snitch on yourself then someone else might do it. And I would guess that the punishment for not registering is quite uncomfortable. So unless you are certain that you can successfully hide your skill, then it might be the better choice to register. Of course that also depends on the reasons why you learned that skill.
@@SquashGuy02134unregistered animagi were sent Azkaban. I don’t know about you but if it came down to registering or being sent to the Dementors; I’d register. Really all it registering would do is disallow you to commit crimes because the Ministry would know it was you. Registering was to ensure you didn’t misuse your ability.
@@Jehty_Hermoine actually does this to Rita Skeeter, to stop her from writing false narratives about Harry and to give Harry a chance to tell his side of the story. Had she refused Rita would be in Azkaban. For the record Rita was able to turn into a beetle and used this to infiltrate Hogwarts even though Dumbledore has her removed and trespassed.
Remember when ron tried to transform scabbards into a cup. I always thought it didn't work because of his hand-me-down wand, but maybe the transfiguration magic was much more difficult because scabbards was already transfigurated as an animagus.
@@Auron1Roxas2 I always thought the reason was because it was a hand-me-down. The wand chooses the wizard. But I agree that using a broken one probably wouldn't be good either 🤣
@@Auron1Roxas2 I do believe it is because Scabbers was animagus. The spell was for transforming a real rat to a cup, not for transforming an animagus rat to a cup. P.S: Also if you remember, Ron tried to turn Scabbers yellow in the first year while his wand was in proper working condition. The spell did not work.
@@Hari-kx2er Pretty sure it was the broken wand as it had a habit of messing up and even turning spells back on the caster. Also Ron got the spell from his brothers and it was obviously made up as they were messing with him.
Yeah, plus the advantage of sneaking around unnoticed and fitting into small spaces or escaping effectively. Very useful when framing one's friend for mass murder, too. But if I knew one of my friends was a traitor, I probably would've guessed the rat 😄 The perfect plot twists of book three: the rat is a traitor, the black dog is Dogstar Black and Remus Wolfyflower is a werewolf. Who'd've thunk? Almost surprised McGonagall isn't called Kitty Silver or something. If JKR kept up the revealing names things in her detective novels, the characters would have names like Brutus Victimsson and I'd finally be able to guess who the murderer is.
I always thought - and this could easily be hindsight bias - that Minerva was a very fitting name for a cat or someone who owned a cat. But that's not enough to connect her and cats compared to the examples you gave.
This whole video can just be condensed down into “It’s really damn hard + you have to tell the entire Ministry of Magic that you’re one so you can’t necessarily hide”
I think dumbledore is just humble enough not to spam the transformation process, he has the highest competence that him not being animagi is just mere speculation
Okay... But hear me out. What if this insanely specific process, for which there is no other similarly complex process for anything so straightforward, is actually a lie? What if the ministry of magic found out that all you had to do to become an animagus, was speak that incantation over and over until it finally works? What if they figured out the fact that mandrake leaves interfere with the process in some way, delaying it and preventing the process from completing as quickly? What if the potion that is created at the end is just a counter to the chemicals in the mandrake leaf, neutralizing it's effects in the body and allowing the first transformation? What if they were terrified of everyone being able to perfectly disguise themselves as animals, so they invented an elaborate process which prevented wizards who would otherwise have gone through with it from even attempting it? What if all the stories about danger were just ministry propoganda designed to scare people off?
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Its kinda sad, that peter pettigrew was never shown as tallanted mage. If this is such a pinacle in Transfiguration (we can skip potions, because, only one master is needed for a group), he should be able to create himself a "hand" and not wait for Voldemort to replace it. And he should be stronger then most DEs at that. P.S. imagining your own figure is a quest...
Movie versions....other than using the ability to spy / be covert as an auror it isn't useful since many seem able to fly without a broom rather easily. Books only Voldemort and Snape can fly unaided so for them there is no use to being an animagi. Prior to anyone being able to fly unaided it could be useful as long as you turned into a bird. Even then, if you can perfect asperating then you can get somewhere faster than a bird so still not very useful. It is an sem interesting conversation starter at a party but otherwise it just is not very useful.
It makes sense for Dumbledore to be an animagus because he's said to have mastered all forms of magic, and McGonagall even implies in a conversation with him that he also at one point mastered Dark Arts or even the Unforgiveable Curses... As to why he wouldn't have registered, he likely didn't trust the Ministry, became an Animagus in order to "go rogue"/act without even the Ministry's knowledge if needed, or both...
My guess before watching the video: If you’re that powerful, you can transfigure yourself into any creature or human you want, so why bother with the arduous task of becoming an animagus and be limited to just one arbitrary creature? Hell, you won’t even need a polyjuice potion to impersonate someone else!
Just because you can change into an Animagus does not mean it's a particularly useful transformation. There's reasons it could be a bad transformation. The animal is not part of your local wildlife, so can't use it as a disguise, the animal is an aquatic animal, so you can't use it, the animal is too eye catching, like a magical creature.
The problem with Animagi imo is that people who practice it have to accept their adopt animal mannerisms like McGonagall's doting presence and Sirius' unwavering loyalty.
Say if harry was a dung beetle then Hermione and Ron would've not made it in they're close call apparating escapes in deathly hallows films due to not being able to reach harry
Seems like some people don't properly read the books. James transformed into stag and Sirius to a large black dog in order to control the large werewolf form of Lupin. It is clearly mentioned in book 3. That was the practical reason right there. You can't control a werewolf if you transformed into rat or beetle or cat
@@Hari-kx2er being a stag or a dog is ofcourse useful in some scenarios but in real everyday life I can think of more scenarios where hiding, go un noticed would be more useful.
@@lucasholmberg5708 As long as you have another person to team up with, being a dog might even give you a headstart in most human settlements when it comes to moveability. Ofc if you don't, you're really better off as a rat. Unless you're in a place or country where stray dogs are a common and welcome sight. And of course it also depends on the kind of dog you are.
I like to think the fact there are so few known animagi is because, other than the highly difficult process to become one, at least 80% of animagi are unregistered as registering would defeat the whole reason they became an animagus...
Actually, in Hogwarts Mystery, game that many people don't pay a lot of attention to but it's actually semi-canon and it has a lot of interesting lore. Talbott Winger is an unregistered animagus whose parents died in the first wizarding war. He talks about how not being registered was the thing that saved his life, because if the Death Eaters had known he was an animagus, they would have easily found him and killed him. Especially in a context of war, being registered has nothing but disadvantages, You are an easy target, your disguise is useless.
I not certain that a wizard's choice of animagus is out of their control. Sirius told Harry that he and James became large animals to control Lupin better.
I noticed that under circumstances also your patronus can change....Maybe first change youre patronus to a big animal and than become an animagus. (And we know that Harry very young masterd the patronus charm..I suppose the same is true for the marauders.
I always wondered why Hermione didn't become an animagus. She was the best candidate. Best in all subjects and the danger wouldn't stop her. Luna also seemed like an animal archetype...If Molly Weasley was she was totally a bear.
@@NeverKissSomeFrog123and you seem to forget that unless the animagus transformation is a necessity such as the polyjuice potion in CoS then hermione wouldnt waste her time, especially that the years after hermione learns of animagi are years where voldemort is rising or is at power, there was simply no immediate need for an animagus form during the time of the books
@@DragonyCat Considering you need particular ingredients such as the shed skin of a boomslang (a species of snake endemic to sub-Saharan Africa), a lacewing in its imago state and a part of the person you plan to transform into among other things; along with the brewing process taking a month.
If Sirius or James had still been alive, I'm pretty certain they would have convinced and helped Harry in the process. Sirius wasn't around long enough to be able to. And it's likely Ron and Hermione would have joined in the process as well. Ron definitely, Hermione probably out of wanting to be sure they didn't do it wrong
_Order of the Phoenix_ does have Harry wish that he could be an animagus so that he could breathe underwater as a fish or frog, but his top Transfiguration feat in his entire school career is changing the color of one of his eyebrows. Maybe if Sirius had survived _Order of the Phoenix,_ Harry could have had a Transfiguration tutor who operated more at his wavelength than Hermione or McGonagal, but even then...
Rowling hinted strongly at everyone's secret animagus forms. Dumbledore's animagus form: Fawkes. Madam Hooch's animagus form: Hawk. Snape's animagus form: Bat. Voldemort: Got stuck halfway when he tried to become a basilisk amimagus.
For the record Peter turning into a rat was not seen as a bad thing. He was the only one who could safely hit the knot on the Whomping Willow so they could join Lupus when he changed.
I agree, Dumbledore probably is one, he's just good at lots of stuff. For all we know, he might even be one of the 7 registered ones, he might've mastered the skill very young, being the prodigy that he was. If Peter and Rita can do it, it would be a piece of cake for Dumbledore.
Probably not. He was so powerful and had so many tricks up his sleeve I doubt he would see a benefit in it. He didn't covet Harry's Cloak because he could produce such a good invisible charm he didn't need it. He was, after all, the Transfiguration Professor for quite some time, on top of student and post educational accolades. May have saw himself above it early on.
I think from both the sorcerer's Stone movie and in the book itself that there is a possibility that Dumbledore is actually an animagus by which he transforms into an owl. I know everybody says he's probably going to be a phoenix but just like read the book in the first chapter and you'll see what I mean.
I agree the owl in the opening scene of philosophers stone owl is on private drive flies off and dumbledore appears. Also the platform he gives his speeches to his students behind is an owl. Hint hint.
@@victoria_m13 this was the beginning of JK Rowling's worked so she probably just changed her mind or it was something she just added for dramatic effect by having two owls and stuff coming in.
Great video and good ideas. I've been wondering this.....perhaps another video. Where did Molly's clock come from? Who made it? Why doesn't Dumbledore, who admired it, have one like it? My thoughts.....Molly is a much more powerful and creative witch than we are led to believe at first. After all, she's the one who beat Bellatrix. I think Molly was a very powerful witch, who simply chose to be a "domestic goddess", as she so loved Arthur. I think she created the clock herself to keep with her family and make sure they are safe. Think about it....most of her children are also quite powerful in their own ways...especially Ginny.
Molly making that clock doesn’t mean she is powerful. And ok she was able to kill Bellatrix but I think it had more to do with the fact of being a mother and being in a violent rage because she had already lost Fred
The family clock wasn't the only one she created-there was also one near the kitchen sink. Regarding the family clock, the second movie presented it with a slight inaccuracy: in the books, the 12 o'clock position has "mortal peril" and after Voldemort's return, she had to take it down as everyone's hands were stuck on "mortal peril". I was amused when in the movie it showed Ron, Fred and George as "Lost" before their hands moved to "Home".
Always wondered why she didn't have The Golden Trio try it. It would have been fun to see all the side effects of the process and Ron constantly having to start over. I thought Harry would have wanted to be like the Marauders in every way possible.
Seeing as Barty 'Moody' was able to transform Draco into a ferret and then his own father into a bone. This makes me wonder if wizards aren't able to undergo transfiguration, could they at least get another witch or wizard to morph then into a particular animal and then change them back when they're done?
I remember reading somwhere that being transfigured into an animal includes the brain, and you don't retain your "human thinking" and free will if youre transfigured into an animal, whereas you do as an animagus.
I don’t think Rowling cared for that much detail, nor she was smart enough to make all these rules for a new universe (I don’t think anyone actually is). She just wanted to tell a story, and I am happy with it.
@@ashkanpower Very fair! But don't forget that plenty of people simply enjoy theorycrafting just as much, even if there was no real initial plan or purpose by the original writer themselves.
so being a phoenix-animagus is yet another way of becoming immortal, pretty interesting. I think becoming magical creatures when transforming is quite overpowered if I'm honest.
Tbh, i don't think that becoming an pheonix would make you immortal. Like we have seen that taken deadly damage would transform you back to your regular form. It is shown when Sirius Black takes a lot of damage when fighting with Remus Lupin and he becomes his regular self and lies by the lake.
But, they're regular animals. James, McGonagall, Sirius, Peter and Reeta all turn into normal animals. So, it might not work with magical animals. Also patroni and animagus form can be different.
Phoenix rises from the ashes Dumbledore never became ashes so they would probably have to cremate him first then he could rise again. However maybe Dumbledore would have to be in his Phoenix form in order for him to come back like a Phoenix. So with him dying in his human form he died for real.
No. A Patronus can drive away Dementors and being an Animagus allows the Wizard or Witch to transform into that animal, but neither can make that Wizard or Witch immortal.
I feel that Dumbledore was an animagus,and his creature was an owl. In the opening of Sourcerers Stone, he was perched on a lampost. He flew away and then Dumbledore approached from the area where the owl had flown. Of course he wouldn't tell anyone.
I love this theory! I have watched all the original Harry Potter films more times than I can count and I NEVER noticed that the owl flew off to where Dumbledore appeared
I don't know if anyone had a theory or something on that topic but i think it is quite interesting. what if an metamorphmagus becomes an animagus? are they capable of changing from an white to a black cat for example or can metamorphmagi just turn into animal ore someting like that
If you take Hogwarts Legacy as canon (and I do) there's also Natsai Onai and her father, who could transform into a gazelle and a giraffe respectively. To me, this raises the question of whether your location in the world and exposure to certain animal species affects the pool of potential forms you might be able to transform into. The Marauders transformed into a stag, a rat and a dog, all things common to England and Europe as a whole. Skeeter could transform into a blue beetle, likely the blue mint beetle native to the UK (though there's also a blue milkweed beetle native to the US and Canada). The Onais were from Matabeleland, a region of Zimbabwe, and transformed into animals native to the African savannah. Perhaps this isn't coincidence.
That giraffe one I think brings up another potential danger to becoming an animagus... the location in which you choose to do it. Too small a space and you might get crushed or disfigured transforming into a large animal. Or just get claustrophobic, causing a fear response that cascades into the problems associated with that. Too open and you might get snagged by a predator if you transform into a small animal. Coupled with the recommendation that you should avoid doing this where others can see you, there's not a lot of options where it would even be safe to preform the first transformation.
@@PollexTheCat - There certainly would be additional risks to your first transformation. Especially if you don't intend to register. Not only would you need to keep it from muggle eyes, but wizard as well. I agree that not knowing the size would be an issue. Personally, I think the Law of Conservation of Mass should apply, but sometimes fantasy writers don't take RL physics into account.
@@PollexTheCat - Yeah, that's something that never set right with me. And Rita Skeeter shrinking into a beetle. With other animagi, you don't have to think too hard about it, since things like stags, dogs and gazelle can be roughly human-sized. When it comes to extremes like bugs, rats and giraffes, there's a strong sense of uncanny valley, knowing that shouldn't be possible, even with magic. All that unaccounted for mass had to go, or come from, somewhere...
It’s amazing that James, Sirius and even Peter managed to do it when they were 15 years old. And yeah they were all unregistered. Rita Skeeter was unregistered too. So we already know of 4 more to add to that 7 on the list. I wonder if Remus could become an animagus too if he tried, but the poor guy would probably just turn into a wolf as well.
Whoever was the first one to figure out the way to become an animagi must have been high on Felix Felicis for weeks! Those steps to make that potion just don't seem to be "guessable". Are there any canon explanations on that?
@@MountainFisher They didn't say anything about it being plausible. And even if they did, just because something is fantasy or fiction doesn't mean there aren't still in-universe rules to abide by, nor does it mean people can't enjoy speculating and theorizing about stuff. If you aren't one to speculate or theorize, scroll past comments like this. Let other people enjoy their theorizing. It's why the HP universe has stayed alive for such a long time. Don't be one of those people who feel the need to knock the wind out of other's sails just because you feel the need to be right.
Imagine if someone refined the process of becoming an Animagus, making it not as difficult, not as risky, and perhaps even making it possible to choose your animal form! The Wizarding World is full of powerful, skilled, talented, and creative wizards and witches, and it's not out of the question for magical knowledge to expand, evolve, and experiment. I am aware that Transfiguration is regarded as one of, if not the most, difficult and complex of the magical arts, and yet it is perfectly possible for magical experimentation to yield new and improved magicks that can make wizards and witches even more powerful
@@Hari-kx2er In the fourth book, she created the Four Point Spell. Through the incantation, "Point me," the wand spins on your palm and points to the north, turning it into a compass. Apologies if I answered you twice, YT in its infinite stupidity deleted my initial answer.
@@helene4397 Exactly my point! Carrying a mandrake leaf in your mouth for at least month!? Getting up at the crack of dawn and speaking a certain spell and repeating at dusk every single night until a thunderstorm? Making sure your prepared formula is untouched by sunlight for at least a week? If a single step is skipped or done wrong you have to start over or else the results could be horrifying! Imagine combining the idea of an Animagus with the Polyjuice potion, where you require only a DNA sample (like hair) to turn into the desired form? If one could implement _that_ into the Animagus process somehow then one could _choose_ their animal form instead of it being something predetermined by their character and possibly being something they don't like Magic can evolve and grow and improve if one is determined enough to find a way
Dumbledore absolutely COULD become an animagus, but I suspect he had no interest in it. It is not so much about skill in his case, but time. He had the mind of a researcher and crusader..animagus was nothing new and nothing would be gained in the greater realms of magic. He would rather put his time into something that could change the world…not just become a cool animal.
The animal form you get is random(?) cannot be changed and is an absolute pain in the ass to acquire, maybe Voldy/Dumbles etc know of some way to "preview" their animagus form and didn't consider it worth the trouble.
I want to know who was the very first to figure all the steps out!!! "I dont get it....I put the mandrake on my tongue.....the dew...the moth, storm!! what am I missing?! Its bee. 7 days now!! Of course i looked at it!!!! No... I didn't.. oh wait, I thought about it!! Its so obvious!" Give me a break 😂
Why would you want to? You can't choose what you become, so for most people it will be very useless. Imagine Luna becomming an otter or something. If it's for stealth and you are Dumbledore or Voldemort why would you need to hide at the hight of your power. Or just use a invisibility spell. Albus actually mentioned that it's much more convenient for a powerful wizard than a cloak or spending a year to become some random animal. If it's for the animals abilities, then there's specialists spells or tools that are much more convenient, for example, brooms for flying or just teleporting, the water grass for underwater breathing, or incapacitate spells for werewolves instead of fighting in paw to paw combat. So if you are a busy magical genius why would you waste your time on a party trick when you could learn or develop much more useful skills with the limited time you have.
PP became one so it couldn't be that difficult. It just seems unnecessary given other skills. You can be unseen, unheard, and unrecognized without becoming an animal. There is not much advantage. No one would let a cat spy on them in an important meeting. It is only unimportant things that you would allow yourself to be listened to by any creature. Have you ever tasted a mandrake leaf?
JK very quickly scribbled over her notes regarding the Sorting Hat choosing your house based on your inherit traits at 11 years old but I’d like to see a justification as to why your animagus form can’t change as you grow or something. The wizarding world is just filled to the brim with a weird ideology that some people are just born bad, and should be feared and excluded because of it . Like if one of my friends animagus form was a leech or something seemingly undesirable I’d definitely be giving some hard side eyes.
Now that I think of it, it makes sense that wizards with especially overgrown egos, obsessive secrecy and craving for personal power like Tom Riddle and Dumbledore would not have animagus forms. They would not be willing to relax and surrender to the shape change. Your listing of all the required steps to becoming an animagus makes it even clearer why the busiest, most controlling wizards would not bother.
Taking it for granted that magical creatures animagi are possible, I have a couple of questions about phoenix ones. Can they cheat death by transforming into a phoenix prior to their demise? if so, would they have to live the rest of their lives as phoenixes, or would their human bodies also be reborn?
Voldemort and Dumbledore could both be Animuguses and simply never revealed it, thats true... But I think not, I think simply that, at their level there simply wouldn't be an advantage to it. The advantages as I see it, to normal wizards and witches would be these 4 things. 1. The ability to hide/disappear from the ministry or others (Wormtail & Sirius does this) 2. The ability to spy (If animagus is something small like a bug) 3. The abillity to fly (if animagus is aerial) 4. The ability to fight (if animagus is powerful like fx a dragon or some other powerful creature) Dumbledore says in the books, that he doesnt need a cloak to be invisible, which makes 1& 2 useless for him Voldemort can fly as he does so in both book and movie, which takes care of 3 And it stands to reason that, if one can do something the other can aswell And both of them are more powerful with their wands than even a dragon, so turning in to a dragon would only weaken their fighting ability.
@@GeneralBomber Dungeons and Dragons (DnD), Is a role-playing game by TSR played with dice, (back before computers), and in a sense, it is a magical world with wizards, among other things. I would recommend doing a little bit of research before purchasing or playing, as there has been rare instances of psychosis, (impulsive character identification), some call 'possession'.
Didn't Snape turn himself into a bat and flee through a window when he and Prof McGonagall started dueling? If so...I don't think this was known until his transformation was seen by all; thus revealing himself as an unregistered Animagus?
I have a question that would maybe be a good idea for a theory video. If your animagus is a pheonix and you turn and then get killed while turned, do you die or are you immortal? And if the answer is immortal, how would that work? Would you be reborn from ash into a baby pheonix? And then, how would that work? Would your human mind be reduced to that of a baby? If yes, could you even turn back or would you be stuck as a pheonix forver? If you get stuck, would your memory return as you grow older as a bird or is that all gone along with your magical knowladge, because its a part of a life that has ended? ARE YOU JUST A REGULAR BIRD NOW WITH ALL OF YOUR HUMANITY REMOVED WHEN YOU DIED?
The interesting thing about Petronas and Animugs animal forms being based on personality (other than sometimes being different from each other) is that they can't change, even though personality often does change throught the course of a person's life. Heck, that's what a "character arch" is! A character's personality, worldview, and/or beliefs and values changing for better or for worse
Just because it wasn’t written in the books that Dumbledore had used an animagus form doesn’t mean he hadn’t mastered it. Assuming he would have become a Phoenix due to this being his patronus animal, who’s to say that the Phoenix who came to rescue Harry in the chamber of secrets wasn’t Dumbledore himself. Harry might just have mistaken him for Fawkes. 🤷🏼♂️ Would be an interesting plot twist.
Too dangerous. One wrong move and even best magical doctors won't be able to return you back to normal, especially after her experience with polyjuice potion(she became catgirl, and could end up stuck as one, so she learnt first hand about dangers of improperly done transformation).
The truth that James, Sirius and yes even Peter went through such an arduous and harrowing process, at 15 no less, just to keep Lupin company during his transformations really shows how strong their friendship was. Makes Peter's betrayal even more disheartening.
What if someone's animagus form was a phoenix, and if it was would they have the ability to die and be reborn from their ashes? Would they be able to transform back? If they did it while they were young in their phoenix form, would their human form be younger?
I always thought that some entrepreneurial potion and transfiguration master would have set up shop making the potion and guiding people through the ritual. Sound like a great way to make some good money.
Animagi should not be required to register, if Polyjuice potion is legal. On top of that, Veritaserum is legal ANYWHERE outside of hogwarts grounds. The Wizards Council seems to be very... unwise...
i actually DONT think Dumbledore and Voldemort are animagi BECAUSE they have access to spells and skills that, quite frankly, do what animagi do without any side effects or risk, as Dumbledore stated, "being me has its advantages!"
About the transformation going wrong... I've always wondered if Rowling, in cannon, or some fan, in fanfic, would ever make Ware wolves and Maladictus major side effects of the transformation going wrong... The story of the first Warewolf or Maladictus could make for a great prequel series!
Yeah, but Dumbledore's patronus is a Fenix. If he were an animagus then his obsession with immortality, which lead him down his path would have no meaning as he can just transform into a fexing and be roborn from the ashes?
I know this has no relevance to the video. I wish they would add animagus into Hogwarts legacy. They could have tweaked it a little bit. Like house you can choose your house. They could have 4 different animals. Like Stag, Wolf, Bull, and Rabbit. Each would have distinct advantage. In the animagus form creatures wont attack you but poachers can trap you. 🤷🏼 oh well maybe in a dlc if they ever do one
Hey folks! Fiddled with my audio settings for this one. How did it sound?
Very quiet for me on mobile even with volume at max,I could BARELY hear you.
Sounded perfect on my Amazon Fire HD10.
@Darth Severus it was slightly lower on my phone but could hear it fine though. Not saying you're lying just weird.
It is said that Dumbledores patronus is a Phoenix. If that's the case then his animagus form should also be a Phoenix.?.?... Would his possible Phoenix form have all the abilities of an actual Phoenix? Tears? Fire? Rebirth? Carry extremely heavy loads?
Sounds like you’re far away from the mic and I’d much prefer your beautiful voice as if you’re standing next to me whispering in my ear lol. It helps me sleep better lol.
The fact that there are 4 unregistered animagi just within narrative proximity to Harry demonstrates that the Ministry registry is woefully underreported.
Agreed but to be fair that's only 2 instances - 1 group and 1 individual
why tf would you snitch on yourself, unless you're an aurer or a Hogwarts professor, it make no sense to tell them
@@SquashGuy02134 if you don't snitch on yourself then someone else might do it.
And I would guess that the punishment for not registering is quite uncomfortable.
So unless you are certain that you can successfully hide your skill, then it might be the better choice to register. Of course that also depends on the reasons why you learned that skill.
@@SquashGuy02134unregistered animagi were sent Azkaban.
I don’t know about you but if it came down to registering or being sent to the Dementors; I’d register.
Really all it registering would do is disallow you to commit crimes because the Ministry would know it was you. Registering was to ensure you didn’t misuse your ability.
@@Jehty_Hermoine actually does this to Rita Skeeter, to stop her from writing false narratives about Harry and to give Harry a chance to tell his side of the story.
Had she refused Rita would be in Azkaban.
For the record Rita was able to turn into a beetle and used this to infiltrate Hogwarts even though Dumbledore has her removed and trespassed.
Remember when ron tried to transform scabbards into a cup. I always thought it didn't work because of his hand-me-down wand, but maybe the transfiguration magic was much more difficult because scabbards was already transfigurated as an animagus.
Naw that's most definitely because of the wand, remember it was broken at the time.
@@Auron1Roxas2 I always thought the reason was because it was a hand-me-down. The wand chooses the wizard. But I agree that using a broken one probably wouldn't be good either 🤣
Doubt it, you can transfigure humans in Hogwarts legacy.
@@Auron1Roxas2 I do believe it is because Scabbers was animagus. The spell was for transforming a real rat to a cup, not for transforming an animagus rat to a cup.
P.S: Also if you remember, Ron tried to turn Scabbers yellow in the first year while his wand was in proper working condition. The spell did not work.
@@Hari-kx2er Pretty sure it was the broken wand as it had a habit of messing up and even turning spells back on the caster. Also Ron got the spell from his brothers and it was obviously made up as they were messing with him.
Imagine someone having a microorganism animagus, and simply getting lost in unbelievably small spaces
Imagine becoming a microorganism and then someone uses hand sanitizer to clean the surface you're on and you instantly die
@@froyocrew good thing wizard cleaning is pretty much dusting and reorganizing
Rats are incredibly adaptive, intelligent and resourceful. They can pretty much live anywhere humans can.
Yeah, plus the advantage of sneaking around unnoticed and fitting into small spaces or escaping effectively. Very useful when framing one's friend for mass murder, too. But if I knew one of my friends was a traitor, I probably would've guessed the rat 😄 The perfect plot twists of book three: the rat is a traitor, the black dog is Dogstar Black and Remus Wolfyflower is a werewolf. Who'd've thunk? Almost surprised McGonagall isn't called Kitty Silver or something. If JKR kept up the revealing names things in her detective novels, the characters would have names like Brutus Victimsson and I'd finally be able to guess who the murderer is.
I always thought - and this could easily be hindsight bias - that Minerva was a very fitting name for a cat or someone who owned a cat. But that's not enough to connect her and cats compared to the examples you gave.
@@DragonyCat I agree, I named my kitten Minerva after McGonagall 😄
Plus, they can stowaway on ships much easier than humans can.
This whole video can just be condensed down into “It’s really damn hard + you have to tell the entire Ministry of Magic that you’re one so you can’t necessarily hide”
Not to mention what can happen if an unregistered Animagus is captured by The Ministry of Magic.
I think dumbledore is just humble enough not to spam the transformation process, he has the highest competence that him not being animagi is just mere speculation
Okay... But hear me out. What if this insanely specific process, for which there is no other similarly complex process for anything so straightforward, is actually a lie? What if the ministry of magic found out that all you had to do to become an animagus, was speak that incantation over and over until it finally works? What if they figured out the fact that mandrake leaves interfere with the process in some way, delaying it and preventing the process from completing as quickly? What if the potion that is created at the end is just a counter to the chemicals in the mandrake leaf, neutralizing it's effects in the body and allowing the first transformation? What if they were terrified of everyone being able to perfectly disguise themselves as animals, so they invented an elaborate process which prevented wizards who would otherwise have gone through with it from even attempting it? What if all the stories about danger were just ministry propoganda designed to scare people off?
I like this theory. Could have a great TV series based on it.
the amount of steps required to create that potion remind me of how to unlock "secret" nintendo characters in the late 90's
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Its kinda sad, that peter pettigrew was never shown as tallanted mage. If this is such a pinacle in Transfiguration (we can skip potions, because, only one master is needed for a group), he should be able to create himself a "hand" and not wait for Voldemort to replace it. And he should be stronger then most DEs at that.
P.S. imagining your own figure is a quest...
Movie versions....other than using the ability to spy / be covert as an auror it isn't useful since many seem able to fly without a broom rather easily. Books only Voldemort and Snape can fly unaided so for them there is no use to being an animagi. Prior to anyone being able to fly unaided it could be useful as long as you turned into a bird. Even then, if you can perfect asperating then you can get somewhere faster than a bird so still not very useful.
It is an sem interesting conversation starter at a party but otherwise it just is not very useful.
It makes sense for Dumbledore to be an animagus because he's said to have mastered all forms of magic, and McGonagall even implies in a conversation with him that he also at one point mastered Dark Arts or even the Unforgiveable Curses... As to why he wouldn't have registered, he likely didn't trust the Ministry, became an Animagus in order to "go rogue"/act without even the Ministry's knowledge if needed, or both...
I know, right? Thulsa Doom had no problem deciding to become a snake. I think he and Voldy would have gotten along great.
My guess before watching the video:
If you’re that powerful, you can transfigure yourself into any creature or human you want, so why bother with the arduous task of becoming an animagus and be limited to just one arbitrary creature?
Hell, you won’t even need a polyjuice potion to impersonate someone else!
Can a lycanthrope also become an animagi or does it negate the chance of that happening?
1:55 then would Tonks become a werewolf in her animagus form? What happens when a patronus changes?
Natsai Onai from Hogwarts Legacy is an Animagi (Gazelle).
Just because you can change into an Animagus does not mean it's a particularly useful transformation.
There's reasons it could be a bad transformation.
The animal is not part of your local wildlife, so can't use it as a disguise, the animal is an aquatic animal, so you can't use it, the animal is too eye catching, like a magical creature.
Your patronus can change though, your animagus form can not. So their not quite so intimately linked.
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The problem with Animagi imo is that people who practice it have to accept their adopt animal mannerisms like McGonagall's doting presence and Sirius' unwavering loyalty.
Unless they become the animal that best fits their mannerisms. The two might also make each other stronger.
Surprised no one mentioned Nagini. Or is she a technicality because she stays as a snake?
So Sirius had that dog in him
If I was an animagus I would not register. I'm sure there are a lot more that are not registered.
wait aside from rita skeeter james potter sirius black wormtail who else is an animagus?
Call me crazy but even with all the risks I still wouldn't mind giving it a shot being able to find out what my animal would be
For the simple reason that it's a pain in the butt. Keeping a leaf in your mouth for a whole month? Few could be bothered with that.
If an animagus patronus changes such as snapes did would their animagus form change too?
Say if harry was a dung beetle then Hermione and Ron would've not made it in they're close call apparating escapes in deathly hallows films due to not being able to reach harry
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Wouldn't it be easier to use polyjuice potion ?
I wonder if there is anyone who can turn into a dragon or any magical animal
Not to confuse with animeguy.
Imagine animagus transformation parties modeled on muggle gender reveal parties
That could be a thing in the U.S. where muggles are called no-majs.
I just laughed at the Pettigrow/potter thing,
Being a rat seems way more useful and practical than being a stag lmao
Indeed... and he turned out to be quite helpful to the gang, being the only one who could reach the switch on the Whomping Willow.
Seems like some people don't properly read the books. James transformed into stag and Sirius to a large black dog in order to control the large werewolf form of Lupin. It is clearly mentioned in book 3. That was the practical reason right there. You can't control a werewolf if you transformed into rat or beetle or cat
@@Hari-kx2er being a stag or a dog is ofcourse useful in some scenarios but in real everyday life I can think of more scenarios where hiding, go un noticed would be more useful.
@@lucasholmberg5708 As long as you have another person to team up with, being a dog might even give you a headstart in most human settlements when it comes to moveability. Ofc if you don't, you're really better off as a rat. Unless you're in a place or country where stray dogs are a common and welcome sight. And of course it also depends on the kind of dog you are.
@@Hari-kx2er that is correct the primary reason they became animagus was to spend time with Lupin.
I like to think the fact there are so few known animagi is because, other than the highly difficult process to become one, at least 80% of animagi are unregistered as registering would defeat the whole reason they became an animagus...
Actually, in Hogwarts Mystery, game that many people don't pay a lot of attention to but it's actually semi-canon and it has a lot of interesting lore.
Talbott Winger is an unregistered animagus whose parents died in the first wizarding war. He talks about how not being registered was the thing that saved his life, because if the Death Eaters had known he was an animagus, they would have easily found him and killed him. Especially in a context of war, being registered has nothing but disadvantages, You are an easy target, your disguise is useless.
@@PaolaLuna-lg2chyes. Avoiding registering might not be the reason to become one, but sure is much more useful.
I not certain that a wizard's choice of animagus is out of their control. Sirius told Harry that he and James became large animals to control Lupin better.
I noticed that under circumstances also your patronus can change....Maybe first change youre patronus to a big animal and than become an animagus. (And we know that Harry very young masterd the patronus charm..I suppose the same is true for the marauders.
@@reiniernn9071 Perhaps, but the way it was worded indicated that James and Sirius had some choice in their animagus form.
@@LyleFrancisDelpYou cannot choose your animagus form, it can only turn into the animal that represents your personality and inner traits.
@@paulyb7267 Both of which are mutable depending on circumstances; but yes, once you succeed in the ritual, that animal form is stuck.
@@JamesDavy2009 Funny how Rita Skeeter's turned out as a beetle, rather than a mosquito.
I always wondered why Hermione didn't become an animagus. She was the best candidate. Best in all subjects and the danger wouldn't stop her. Luna also seemed like an animal archetype...If Molly Weasley was she was totally a bear.
You are aware of the process right? Hermoine is smart but shes not patient and you need alot of patience
I'm sure she did at some point.
@@homunculus7she brew Polyjuice potion for a month in chamber of secrets
@@NeverKissSomeFrog123and you seem to forget that unless the animagus transformation is a necessity such as the polyjuice potion in CoS then hermione wouldnt waste her time, especially that the years after hermione learns of animagi are years where voldemort is rising or is at power, there was simply no immediate need for an animagus form during the time of the books
Your patronus says your anymagus form
I always assumed it was just too big of a pain. I’d do it, but it makes the polyjuice potion look easy to prepare
Compared, yes, very easy.
@@DragonyCat Considering you need particular ingredients such as the shed skin of a boomslang (a species of snake endemic to sub-Saharan Africa), a lacewing in its imago state and a part of the person you plan to transform into among other things; along with the brewing process taking a month.
@@JamesDavy2009 such a complex process, and yet so cool when you succeed.
This. It's a pain in the ass and has a huge margin for error. That's why more wizards don't bother.
If Sirius or James had still been alive, I'm pretty certain they would have convinced and helped Harry in the process. Sirius wasn't around long enough to be able to. And it's likely Ron and Hermione would have joined in the process as well. Ron definitely, Hermione probably out of wanting to be sure they didn't do it wrong
_Order of the Phoenix_ does have Harry wish that he could be an animagus so that he could breathe underwater as a fish or frog, but his top Transfiguration feat in his entire school career is changing the color of one of his eyebrows. Maybe if Sirius had survived _Order of the Phoenix,_ Harry could have had a Transfiguration tutor who operated more at his wavelength than Hermione or McGonagal, but even then...
the animagus process sounds like one of those 90s schoolyard rumours on how to catch Mew
I'd like to imagine James turning into a stag and running Voldermort over, landing a few hits at him before getting killed.
I’m just imagining James goring voldy with his antlers and Voldemort already being near death when the curse backfired 🤣
Rowling hinted strongly at everyone's secret animagus forms.
Dumbledore's animagus form: Fawkes.
Madam Hooch's animagus form: Hawk.
Snape's animagus form: Bat.
Voldemort: Got stuck halfway when he tried to become a basilisk amimagus.
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Because Voldemort was bald, and one of the ingredients is a strand of the Animagus-in-the-Making's own hair.
@@thecajunphoenix XDDDDD
@@thecajunphoenix10/10 headcanon
Well, we see Fawkes and Dumbledore together at various times, so it's definitely not that.
For the record Peter turning into a rat was not seen as a bad thing.
He was the only one who could safely hit the knot on the Whomping Willow so they could join Lupus when he changed.
We can say it was much more of a blessing than a curse. Both for good and for bad, as it turned out.
I agree, Dumbledore probably is one, he's just good at lots of stuff. For all we know, he might even be one of the 7 registered ones, he might've mastered the skill very young, being the prodigy that he was. If Peter and Rita can do it, it would be a piece of cake for Dumbledore.
Probably not. He was so powerful and had so many tricks up his sleeve I doubt he would see a benefit in it. He didn't covet Harry's Cloak because he could produce such a good invisible charm he didn't need it. He was, after all, the Transfiguration Professor for quite some time, on top of student and post educational accolades. May have saw himself above it early on.
ONLY SEVEN??
Hermione would of spotted it, as she looked at the list and would of told Harry & Ron.
He mastered Parseltongue,Mermish and that odd language he speaks in Half-Blood Prince AND THATS FOR LANGUAGES so I also agree
@@tectamk.thorne7837 have*
I think from both the sorcerer's Stone movie and in the book itself that there is a possibility that Dumbledore is actually an animagus by which he transforms into an owl. I know everybody says he's probably going to be a phoenix but just like read the book in the first chapter and you'll see what I mean.
I was thinking the same. About him being an owl animagus, but for split second I considered an phoenix but neglected because they are reborn.
I agree the owl in the opening scene of philosophers stone owl is on private drive flies off and dumbledore appears. Also the platform he gives his speeches to his students behind is an owl. Hint hint.
interesting theory, i like it))) his patronus might have changed when dumbldore has been chosen by phoenix
@@victoria_m13 this was the beginning of JK Rowling's worked so she probably just changed her mind or it was something she just added for dramatic effect by having two owls and stuff coming in.
I doubt it because the Dumbledores are specially linked to Pheonixes
Great video and good ideas.
I've been wondering this.....perhaps another video. Where did Molly's clock come from? Who made it? Why doesn't Dumbledore, who admired it, have one like it?
My thoughts.....Molly is a much more powerful and creative witch than we are led to believe at first. After all, she's the one who beat Bellatrix.
I think Molly was a very powerful witch, who simply chose to be a "domestic goddess", as she so loved Arthur. I think she created the clock herself
to keep with her family and make sure they are safe. Think about it....most of her children are also quite powerful in their own ways...especially Ginny.
Arthur definitely made that clock. Arthur is like SS tier item enchanter.
@@CarrotCakeMake I’m not so sure. I think Molly is the real power in the family.
Molly making that clock doesn’t mean she is powerful. And ok she was able to kill Bellatrix but I think it had more to do with the fact of being a mother and being in a violent rage because she had already lost Fred
@@Michael.Ch90 It means she is intuitive, creative, and powerfully magical. It's pretty much as innovative as Dumbledore's "Put Outer".
The family clock wasn't the only one she created-there was also one near the kitchen sink. Regarding the family clock, the second movie presented it with a slight inaccuracy: in the books, the 12 o'clock position has "mortal peril" and after Voldemort's return, she had to take it down as everyone's hands were stuck on "mortal peril". I was amused when in the movie it showed Ron, Fred and George as "Lost" before their hands moved to "Home".
With Voldemort's war, the reason for wanting that secrecy of being an Animagi makes their reason to not tell the ministry all the more reasonable.
Always wondered why she didn't have The Golden Trio try it. It would have been fun to see all the side effects of the process and Ron constantly having to start over. I thought Harry would have wanted to be like the Marauders in every way possible.
there's nothing to suggest that ron would mess it up if he were motivated to do it
Seeing as Barty 'Moody' was able to transform Draco into a ferret and then his own father into a bone. This makes me wonder if wizards aren't able to undergo transfiguration, could they at least get another witch or wizard to morph then into a particular animal and then change them back when they're done?
I remember reading somwhere that being transfigured into an animal includes the brain, and you don't retain your "human thinking" and free will if youre transfigured into an animal, whereas you do as an animagus.
@@lynnthomas8457 Hence "Moody's" answer being, "Technically it's a ferret."
I don’t think Rowling cared for that much detail, nor she was smart enough to make all these rules for a new universe (I don’t think anyone actually is). She just wanted to tell a story, and I am happy with it.
if you are transfigured by another witch.. you lose your thinking ability, youre literally an animal.. it is explained in the books
@@ashkanpower Very fair! But don't forget that plenty of people simply enjoy theorycrafting just as much, even if there was no real initial plan or purpose by the original writer themselves.
so being a phoenix-animagus is yet another way of becoming immortal, pretty interesting. I think becoming magical creatures when transforming is quite overpowered if I'm honest.
Tbh, i don't think that becoming an pheonix would make you immortal. Like we have seen that taken deadly damage would transform you back to your regular form. It is shown when Sirius Black takes a lot of damage when fighting with Remus Lupin and he becomes his regular self and lies by the lake.
But, they're regular animals. James, McGonagall, Sirius, Peter and Reeta all turn into normal animals. So, it might not work with magical animals. Also patroni and animagus form can be different.
There's also the fact that Dumbledore knew he needed to die to deal with the curse, even if he had the ability, he would have still chosen to die
yes phoenixes are immortal. but they still die. they die and burn to ash. that just do not stay dead for long.
If your patronus is a phoenix (like Dumbledore's), then your animagus form would probably be a phoenix too. Wouldn't that make you immortal?
If one is immortal they can’t die. There goes that theory
Phoenix rises from the ashes Dumbledore never became ashes so they would probably have to cremate him first then he could rise again. However maybe Dumbledore would have to be in his Phoenix form in order for him to come back like a Phoenix. So with him dying in his human form he died for real.
No. A Patronus can drive away Dementors and being an Animagus allows the Wizard or Witch to transform into that animal, but neither can make that Wizard or Witch immortal.
I feel that Dumbledore was an animagus,and his creature was an owl. In the opening of Sourcerers Stone, he was perched on a lampost. He flew away and then Dumbledore approached from the area where the owl had flown. Of course he wouldn't tell anyone.
I love this theory! I have watched all the original Harry Potter films more times than I can count and I NEVER noticed that the owl flew off to where Dumbledore appeared
If the animal form is a reflection of your personality, then Peter's first transformation should have been a red flag for the marauders 😂
I mean, rats aren't actually evil or conniving. That's just the attributes people have given them.
I believe Dumbledore was so gifted in Transfiguration that he could become anything he wanted.
I mean he did say he didn’t need an invisibility cloak to become invisible
I don't know if anyone had a theory or something on that topic but i think it is quite interesting. what if an metamorphmagus becomes an animagus? are they capable of changing from an white to a black cat for example or can metamorphmagi just turn into animal ore someting like that
If you take Hogwarts Legacy as canon (and I do) there's also Natsai Onai and her father, who could transform into a gazelle and a giraffe respectively. To me, this raises the question of whether your location in the world and exposure to certain animal species affects the pool of potential forms you might be able to transform into. The Marauders transformed into a stag, a rat and a dog, all things common to England and Europe as a whole. Skeeter could transform into a blue beetle, likely the blue mint beetle native to the UK (though there's also a blue milkweed beetle native to the US and Canada). The Onais were from Matabeleland, a region of Zimbabwe, and transformed into animals native to the African savannah. Perhaps this isn't coincidence.
That giraffe one I think brings up another potential danger to becoming an animagus... the location in which you choose to do it. Too small a space and you might get crushed or disfigured transforming into a large animal. Or just get claustrophobic, causing a fear response that cascades into the problems associated with that. Too open and you might get snagged by a predator if you transform into a small animal. Coupled with the recommendation that you should avoid doing this where others can see you, there's not a lot of options where it would even be safe to preform the first transformation.
@@PollexTheCat - There certainly would be additional risks to your first transformation. Especially if you don't intend to register. Not only would you need to keep it from muggle eyes, but wizard as well. I agree that not knowing the size would be an issue. Personally, I think the Law of Conservation of Mass should apply, but sometimes fantasy writers don't take RL physics into account.
@@hollyhartwick3832 If conservation of mass was a thing with animagi then Peter would be a VERY heavy rat.
@@PollexTheCat - Yeah, that's something that never set right with me. And Rita Skeeter shrinking into a beetle. With other animagi, you don't have to think too hard about it, since things like stags, dogs and gazelle can be roughly human-sized. When it comes to extremes like bugs, rats and giraffes, there's a strong sense of uncanny valley, knowing that shouldn't be possible, even with magic. All that unaccounted for mass had to go, or come from, somewhere...
It’s amazing that James, Sirius and even Peter managed to do it when they were 15 years old. And yeah they were all unregistered. Rita Skeeter was unregistered too. So we already know of 4 more to add to that 7 on the list. I wonder if Remus could become an animagus too if he tried, but the poor guy would probably just turn into a wolf as well.
Whoever was the first one to figure out the way to become an animagi must have been high on Felix Felicis for weeks! Those steps to make that potion just don't seem to be "guessable". Are there any canon explanations on that?
It's fantasy and doesn't need to be plausible.
@@MountainFisher They didn't say anything about it being plausible. And even if they did, just because something is fantasy or fiction doesn't mean there aren't still in-universe rules to abide by, nor does it mean people can't enjoy speculating and theorizing about stuff.
If you aren't one to speculate or theorize, scroll past comments like this. Let other people enjoy their theorizing. It's why the HP universe has stayed alive for such a long time. Don't be one of those people who feel the need to knock the wind out of other's sails just because you feel the need to be right.
@@QPoily Oh ex deus machina like time turners.
Imagine if someone refined the process of becoming an Animagus, making it not as difficult, not as risky, and perhaps even making it possible to choose your animal form! The Wizarding World is full of powerful, skilled, talented, and creative wizards and witches, and it's not out of the question for magical knowledge to expand, evolve, and experiment. I am aware that Transfiguration is regarded as one of, if not the most, difficult and complex of the magical arts, and yet it is perfectly possible for magical experimentation to yield new and improved magicks that can make wizards and witches even more powerful
Case in point: Hermione and Snape able to successfully create spells. I'm fairly certain the process involves a lot of experimentation.
@@JamesDavy2009 Which spell did Hermione create?
Have you read what has to be done in order to become an animagus? I cannot imagine there to be any way how to make it easier.
@@Hari-kx2er In the fourth book, she created the Four Point Spell. Through the incantation, "Point me," the wand spins on your palm and points to the north, turning it into a compass.
Apologies if I answered you twice, YT in its infinite stupidity deleted my initial answer.
@@helene4397 Exactly my point! Carrying a mandrake leaf in your mouth for at least month!? Getting up at the crack of dawn and speaking a certain spell and repeating at dusk every single night until a thunderstorm? Making sure your prepared formula is untouched by sunlight for at least a week? If a single step is skipped or done wrong you have to start over or else the results could be horrifying!
Imagine combining the idea of an Animagus with the Polyjuice potion, where you require only a DNA sample (like hair) to turn into the desired form? If one could implement _that_ into the Animagus process somehow then one could _choose_ their animal form instead of it being something predetermined by their character and possibly being something they don't like
Magic can evolve and grow and improve if one is determined enough to find a way
Dumbledore absolutely COULD become an animagus, but I suspect he had no interest in it. It is not so much about skill in his case, but time. He had the mind of a researcher and crusader..animagus was nothing new and nothing would be gained in the greater realms of magic. He would rather put his time into something that could change the world…not just become a cool animal.
Agree. He could already be invisible and without cloak. I think he saw no use in becoming an animagus
TLDR. Don't be an anime guy.
The animal form you get is random(?) cannot be changed and is an absolute pain in the ass to acquire, maybe Voldy/Dumbles etc know of some way to "preview" their animagus form and didn't consider it worth the trouble.
I want to know who was the very first to figure all the steps out!!!
"I dont get it....I put the mandrake on my tongue.....the dew...the moth, storm!! what am I missing?! Its bee. 7 days now!! Of course i looked at it!!!! No... I didn't.. oh wait, I thought about it!! Its so obvious!" Give me a break 😂
Why would you want to?
You can't choose what you become, so for most people it will be very useless. Imagine Luna becomming an otter or something.
If it's for stealth and you are Dumbledore or Voldemort why would you need to hide at the hight of your power. Or just use a invisibility spell. Albus actually mentioned that it's much more convenient for a powerful wizard than a cloak or spending a year to become some random animal.
If it's for the animals abilities, then there's specialists spells or tools that are much more convenient, for example, brooms for flying or just teleporting, the water grass for underwater breathing, or incapacitate spells for werewolves instead of fighting in paw to paw combat.
So if you are a busy magical genius why would you waste your time on a party trick when you could learn or develop much more useful skills with the limited time you have.
PP became one so it couldn't be that difficult. It just seems unnecessary given other skills. You can be unseen, unheard, and unrecognized without becoming an animal. There is not much advantage. No one would let a cat spy on them in an important meeting. It is only unimportant things that you would allow yourself to be listened to by any creature. Have you ever tasted a mandrake leaf?
JK very quickly scribbled over her notes regarding the Sorting Hat choosing your house based on your inherit traits at 11 years old but I’d like to see a justification as to why your animagus form can’t change as you grow or something.
The wizarding world is just filled to the brim with a weird ideology that some people are just born bad, and should be feared and excluded because of it .
Like if one of my friends animagus form was a leech or something seemingly undesirable I’d definitely be giving some hard side eyes.
Because it grows with you, apparently. As your human self matures and grows up, so does your animagus self, your animal form.
Now that I think of it, it makes sense that wizards with especially overgrown egos, obsessive secrecy and craving for personal power like Tom Riddle and Dumbledore would not have animagus forms. They would not be willing to relax and surrender to the shape change.
Your listing of all the required steps to becoming an animagus makes it even clearer why the busiest, most controlling wizards would not bother.
Sirius really did have the dawg in him.
The average animagi is seemingly as rare as having a "mythical type" zoan fruit in
Maybe the reason for Voldemort looking like a snake is a side effect of this spell??
Taking it for granted that magical creatures animagi are possible, I have a couple of questions about phoenix ones. Can they cheat death by transforming into a phoenix prior to their demise? if so, would they have to live the rest of their lives as phoenixes, or would their human bodies also be reborn?
Voldemort and Dumbledore could both be Animuguses and simply never revealed it, thats true... But I think not, I think simply that, at their level there simply wouldn't be an advantage to it.
The advantages as I see it, to normal wizards and witches would be these 4 things.
1. The ability to hide/disappear from the ministry or others (Wormtail & Sirius does this)
2. The ability to spy (If animagus is something small like a bug)
3. The abillity to fly (if animagus is aerial)
4. The ability to fight (if animagus is powerful like fx a dragon or some other powerful creature)
Dumbledore says in the books, that he doesnt need a cloak to be invisible, which makes 1& 2 useless for him
Voldemort can fly as he does so in both book and movie, which takes care of 3
And it stands to reason that, if one can do something the other can aswell
And both of them are more powerful with their wands than even a dragon, so turning in to a dragon would only weaken their fighting ability.
I always wondered what would i turn to... Strange to think about it.
Good question, almost everyone I played DnD with wanted "polymorph self" spell.
@@GeneralBomber Dungeons and Dragons (DnD), Is a role-playing game by TSR played with dice, (back before computers), and in a sense, it is a magical world with wizards, among other things. I would recommend doing a little bit of research before purchasing or playing, as there has been rare instances of psychosis, (impulsive character identification), some call 'possession'.
hogwarts legacy if it counts another school it was very common
Who the frack was the wizard that figured out the recipe for this?
Do you think that the recipe for it is easily accessible or is hidden somewhere in the restricted section?
Likely in the restricted section given how advanced the ritual is and the risks involved should it fail.
That's an awful lot of work and risk for a form you don't even get to choose.
You never referenced Ouagadu. The students at the african school learn to be animagi more than at hogwarts
Yep. He's slacking🤣
It must be a real pain if your animagus form is a fish.
Didn't Snape turn himself into a bat and flee through a window when he and Prof McGonagall started dueling? If so...I don't think this was known until his transformation was seen by all; thus revealing himself as an unregistered Animagus?
No, he like Voldemort, can fly without broom
I have a question that would maybe be a good idea for a theory video. If your animagus is a pheonix and you turn and then get killed while turned, do you die or are you immortal? And if the answer is immortal, how would that work? Would you be reborn from ash into a baby pheonix? And then, how would that work? Would your human mind be reduced to that of a baby? If yes, could you even turn back or would you be stuck as a pheonix forver? If you get stuck, would your memory return as you grow older as a bird or is that all gone along with your magical knowladge, because its a part of a life that has ended? ARE YOU JUST A REGULAR BIRD NOW WITH ALL OF YOUR HUMANITY REMOVED WHEN YOU DIED?
The interesting thing about Petronas and Animugs animal forms being based on personality (other than sometimes being different from each other) is that they can't change, even though personality often does change throught the course of a person's life. Heck, that's what a "character arch" is! A character's personality, worldview, and/or beliefs and values changing for better or for worse
I wouldn't register just by bureaucracy alone. Just like you don't register your lab to the FBI. I know you have one.
Just because it wasn’t written in the books that Dumbledore had used an animagus form doesn’t mean he hadn’t mastered it. Assuming he would have become a Phoenix due to this being his patronus animal, who’s to say that the Phoenix who came to rescue Harry in the chamber of secrets wasn’t Dumbledore himself. Harry might just have mistaken him for Fawkes. 🤷🏼♂️ Would be an interesting plot twist.
3:25 nice to see you reference hogwarts mystery, you should reference these harry potter games more
honestly a little surprised that hermione never bothered becoming an animagus, i woulda though she'd do it just to prove she could
Too dangerous. One wrong move and even best magical doctors won't be able to return you back to normal, especially after her experience with polyjuice potion(she became catgirl, and could end up stuck as one, so she learnt first hand about dangers of improperly done transformation).
Question could a wizard powerful enough to use wandless magic be able to use magic in animagus from
I wonder if Animagi are magically related to the Maledictus.
Maybe a Maledictus bloodline curse is caused by ancestor failing to become animagus.
The truth that James, Sirius and yes even Peter went through such an arduous and harrowing process, at 15 no less, just to keep Lupin company during his transformations really shows how strong their friendship was. Makes Peter's betrayal even more disheartening.
What if someone's animagus form was a phoenix, and if it was would they have the ability to die and be reborn from their ashes? Would they be able to transform back? If they did it while they were young in their phoenix form, would their human form be younger?
I always thought that some entrepreneurial potion and transfiguration master would have set up shop making the potion and guiding people through the ritual. Sound like a great way to make some good money.
Pretty sure you have to make the potion yourself, from your own saliva...
Animagi should not be required to register, if Polyjuice potion is legal. On top of that, Veritaserum is legal ANYWHERE outside of hogwarts grounds. The Wizards Council seems to be very... unwise...
i actually DONT think Dumbledore and Voldemort are animagi BECAUSE they have access to spells and skills that, quite frankly, do what animagi do without any side effects or risk, as Dumbledore stated, "being me has its advantages!"
About the transformation going wrong... I've always wondered if Rowling, in cannon, or some fan, in fanfic, would ever make Ware wolves and Maladictus major side effects of the transformation going wrong... The story of the first Warewolf or Maladictus could make for a great prequel series!
Yeah, but Dumbledore's patronus is a Fenix. If he were an animagus then his obsession with immortality, which lead him down his path would have no meaning as he can just transform into a fexing and be roborn from the ashes?
Hmm, i wonder if Dumbledore was a phoenix animagus and was actually the one to save Harry in the chamber of secrets in place of Fawkes
I know this has no relevance to the video. I wish they would add animagus into Hogwarts legacy. They could have tweaked it a little bit. Like house you can choose your house. They could have 4 different animals. Like Stag, Wolf, Bull, and Rabbit. Each would have distinct advantage. In the animagus form creatures wont attack you but poachers can trap you. 🤷🏼 oh well maybe in a dlc if they ever do one