Radeon R9 390 vs. GeForce GTX 970: Still Worth Buying?

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    VIDEO INDEX
    0:17 - Welcome :)
    1:02 - GTX 970
    2:06 - R9 390
    2:17 - Clock speeds
    2:55 - Rise of the Tomb Raider
    3:39 - Far Cry Primal
    4:13 - Tom Clancy's The Division
    4:39 - Hitman
    5:01 - Quantum Break
    5:34 - Overwatch
    6:02 - DOOM [Vulkan]
    6:21 - Total War: Warhammer
    6:47 - Mirror's Edge Catalyst
    7:08 - F1 2016
    7:26 - Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
    7:55 - Battlefield 1
    8:20 - Mafia III
    8:45 - Gears of War 4
    9:11 - Titanfall 2
    9:35 - Civilization VI
    9:56 - Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare
    10:22 - WATCH_DOGS2
    10:50 - Resident Evil 7: Biohazard
    11:23 - For Honor
    11:46 - Prey
    12:10 - Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War III
    12:41 - Power
    13:35 - 22 Game Average
    14:07 - Conclusion
    16:51 - Outro
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  • @pavel_sudnik
    @pavel_sudnik 7 років тому +40

    Holy crap! 4(cards and clocks) * 22 (games) * 2(resolutions) = 176 test runs. It's very impressive number. My respect.

  • @FrankieHiltz
    @FrankieHiltz 7 років тому +60

    That's gotta be such an insane grind getting all this data, dealing with driver installs, Windows, game installs, etc. Respect for putting in so much time and love into the videos. Seriously impossible to find such in depth hard numbers from such a large data pool, anywhere else. Keep at it Steve :]

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  7 років тому +17

      You're welcome mate, pretty much just normal day to day stuff now ;)

    • @DrearierSpider1
      @DrearierSpider1 7 років тому

      Steve, did you test the Steam version of Quantum Break or Windows Store?

  • @saikrishankumar
    @saikrishankumar 7 років тому +350

    Steve you are a freaking machine. Love you my brother. Awesome videos, thank you very much for your hard work.

    • @hadarmosh2266
      @hadarmosh2266 7 років тому +1

      Sai Krishan Kumar I found this videos very useful.

    • @mradzkiidon
      @mradzkiidon 7 років тому +2

      HadarMosh226 how many videos does this video have lmao?

    • @hadarmosh2266
      @hadarmosh2266 7 років тому

      Adz I mean this type of videos.

  • @StoneBanks80
    @StoneBanks80 7 років тому +92

    one day i will own a pc and play all the games iv missed over the last decade

    • @StoneBanks80
      @StoneBanks80 7 років тому +3

      JazzMCPE Gaming for mcpe! Awsome dude hav fun

    • @rdln4313
      @rdln4313 7 років тому +8

      That's the spirit !

    • @TheLastElderDragon
      @TheLastElderDragon 7 років тому +1

      Mohammad Saad me too will start with witcher series

    • @ppsarrakis
      @ppsarrakis 7 років тому

      i been saying that for PS4 and i always find stuff to buy for my PC instead :P

    • @TheDawnCrusader
      @TheDawnCrusader 7 років тому +1

      same thing my man... currently i have a HP AMD laptop from 2008-09 with ATI 4650 hd graphics and the last "new" game i played was probably in 2012 (mass effect 3) at below 20 fps but only because it supported DX9 :( so i;ve missed quite a lot ..

  • @jc0931
    @jc0931 7 років тому +109

    thank you for putting so much efforts in your job :D

  • @Classikh
    @Classikh 7 років тому +21

    You should add Rainbow Six Siege to your games to benchmark. It even has a built in benchmark in the options menu.

  • @parsastrife6629
    @parsastrife6629 7 років тому +36

    You and GamersNexus are my favorite channels! You both put a lot of work in each of your videos! Thanks for quality videos!

    • @weasle2904
      @weasle2904 7 років тому +2

      Nice wc3 logo

    • @parsastrife6629
      @parsastrife6629 7 років тому

      Johnathan Bloch Lol thanks, it's Anti-Mage from DotA

    • @Macsk8ing
      @Macsk8ing 7 років тому

      Parsa Strife All that praise and not even a love.

    • @parsastrife6629
      @parsastrife6629 7 років тому

      EElectric_M Lol I think I just commented a bit late xD

  • @hermann_esse
    @hermann_esse 7 років тому +177

    AMD cards age so well, with further driver optimizations and features like Freesync they are really good long-term purchase.
    Really proud of my R9 270X

    • @Sergiocrivelin
      @Sergiocrivelin 7 років тому +6

      R9 270x is a great card, I still magage to pull 60gps on crysis 3 with mine

    • @hermann_esse
      @hermann_esse 7 років тому

      I built (my first) budget PC with an FX8320 and a 270x TOXIC in 2013, still manage to get 60FPS 1080p with decent setting in some game. I'll change the card only after his death.

    • @SteffenMeyer101
      @SteffenMeyer101 7 років тому +1

      Franco Tizzoni yeah R9 270X masterrace!

    • @williamskagen9901
      @williamskagen9901 7 років тому

      270x is similar to the 7870 right? I got a 7870 for free from a friend, and it was really inpressive in games like GTA5 and battlefield 1! Too bad the 7000 series and below didn't come with freesync (for games).

    • @cassardavid94
      @cassardavid94 7 років тому

      +William skagen it's the same card basically

  • @DefWun
    @DefWun 7 років тому +25

    While I have never crossed Swords myself, I don't judge and I can still appreciate the joke.

  • @foreignsgamingtech
    @foreignsgamingtech 7 років тому +26

    I always chuckle at those snarky comments about games. Great video! Seems like some games at 1440p really do show the VRAM limitations of the 970. And it seems that in games with higher single-thread CPU utilization AMD cards suffer more, probably because of that fact the main thread is processing all the AMD GPU draw calls. That's an unfixable thing, I think. Otherwise the 390 would be the winner.
    Seems like both cards have their positives and negatives here.

    • @WhiteoutTech
      @WhiteoutTech 7 років тому +3

      nah the problem isnt the vram. if the game would require more vram than the gpu has it would be a complete unplayable stutter fest

    • @Judas101010
      @Judas101010 7 років тому +2

      foreign's gaming tech right on the mark with cpu main thread draw call limitation. unless game developers unload some of the graphic compute futures to other threads or rather draw call submits, amd cards with the more or less fixed hardware sheduler can't handle the limitations on driver side like nv is doing with deferres context-command line. vram isn't a issue on the 970 with it's strong polymorph engine+tile based rendering freeing up vram compression. worst case scenario a game has to load-unload data onto the vram very fast, there would be no stutter or other issues.

    • @ubertiger151
      @ubertiger151 7 років тому +2

      play resident evil 7 and you will see the problem of gtx 970.

    • @Judas101010
      @Judas101010 7 років тому +2

      Tile based rendering happens at the front end of the card, by avoiding the vram, in addition memory compression is far more advanced on nv cards and negates the bandwidth disparity. In higher resolutions the front end (polymorph engines) of the 970 weighs less and the more stream processors helps 390 to take less performance hit because of the heavier pixel shading process.
      @UberTiger1 shadow cache can be switched off. This function makes no sense with abundant vram. Furyx loses 10 fps with this option on and the frame times are horrible, without it it's more fps and buttery smooth gameplay. My 390 gains around 30 fps with shadow cache on. Wish more games had this option.

  • @Dysphoricsmile
    @Dysphoricsmile 7 років тому +6

    This goes to further prove that the RX 480 is ROP Starved! By all synthetic benchmarks, the RX 480 SHOULD slaughter the R9 390 due to frequency alone, but the 390 has TWICE the Render Output Pipeline -aka Pixel Pipelines, aka ROPs, as the RX 480! RX 480 = 32 ROPs, R9 390 = 64 ROPs, R9 390X/Fury X = 64 ROPs, GTX 970 = 56 ROPs, GTX 1060 = 48 ROPs, GTX 980/1070/1080 = 64 ROPs, GTX 980 Ti/Titan X/Xp = 96 ROPsm GTX 1080 Ti = 88 ROPs.
    The RX 480 is render starved! I CALLED this ages ago when it was announced that Polaris woukd ONLY have 32 ROPs at most, meanwhile even a GTX 1050 has 32 ROPs from Nvidia! Obviously ROPs are only one SMALL part of overall performance, but if you don't have enough or fast enough clocked ROPs, any given GPU can choke on too much geometry. And since Nvidia runs at such higher frequencies, even with frequency being the same, Pascal ROPs are clocked a good 60%+ higher than Polaris, same as the core. Also Nvidia give FAR more ROPs per CUDA and per Memory controller than AMD.

  • @Sergiocrivelin
    @Sergiocrivelin 7 років тому +205

    The same will happen with GTX 1060 vs Rx 580/480... AMD video cards age much better. :)

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  7 років тому +33

      What will happen?

    • @Sergiocrivelin
      @Sergiocrivelin 7 років тому +23

      Two years ago GTX 970 used to swept the floor with R9 390/290 :)

    • @andreigreu
      @andreigreu 7 років тому +8

      Well usually nvidia grows nasty curly hair and double headed warts.

    • @6utS
      @6utS 7 років тому +8

      Ppl who bought gtx 1060 year ago will start looking for new gpu in 2 years since then u gonna get 1080ti lvl gpu around 300$ same way we got og titan lvl gpu at 250$ price in 2016.
      Gpu market sint stagnat yet, so its smart to replace ur gpu every 2 generations for massive performance boost at similar price.

    • @nerdMike
      @nerdMike 7 років тому

      Also better driver support after long time :)

  • @Fridgemusa
    @Fridgemusa 5 років тому

    I love coming back to these old vids to help when deciding what's better value when purchasing second hand GFX cards, cheers guys :)

  • @taramjwi57
    @taramjwi57 7 років тому +5

    Nice to see Maxwell is aging better than Kepler.

  • @MJNET-mt8sg
    @MJNET-mt8sg 7 років тому +2

    Thanks once again Steve. You never cease to impress. Hope you can ignore all the people fighting in the comments section, most of us truly appreciate the work.

  • @WanBerry
    @WanBerry 7 років тому +1

    i bought a 2nd hand Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 970 earlier this year at the price cheaper than RX 470 and i haven't regret anything ever since! Default Gaming Mode boost up to 1342Mhz and factory OC Mode boost higher matched up to 980! All i need to care about now is just a better cpu than my current 4years old FX 6300.. U nailed it Steve,thanks for best and great content as always,CHEERS!

  • @forestR1
    @forestR1 7 років тому

    what an effort! I try to keep my SUB list short. Only the best, most well thought, hardest working creators ...and Salazar for some reason... oh well. I'm pretty sure it was your video 18 months ago that convinced me that the 390 was the right card for my needs. still very happy! especially now seeing where it all fits together today. thanks again!

  • @nipa5961
    @nipa5961 Рік тому +1

    I'm glad I took the 390 over the 970 in January 2016. A bit faster, more than enough memory and costing 60€ less was the way better deal.
    Also, I sold it for 80% of the original price last December.

  • @udoderunformige1250
    @udoderunformige1250 7 років тому

    Man, Steve, do you even do anything other than benchmarking the crap out of everything you find? Don't get me wrong: I really appreciate it and it's really impressive.

  • @Obie327
    @Obie327 7 років тому

    I ended up replacing/upgrading my "impulse buy" 1050ti for a used MSI Gaming GTX 970 for 50 bucks and GTX 760 trade. Overclocked it to 1410 mhz atm. Runs absolutely great! The 970 is very close to the 1060 performance when overclocked.

  • @ISNEKO
    @ISNEKO 7 років тому

    I think it's really neat to see the heatsink on top. I feel like you can only do so much with the fan look, but you can mess around a lot with fins and pipes.

  • @patrikmiskovic791
    @patrikmiskovic791 7 років тому +139

    390 still king

    • @munchiesgaming3067
      @munchiesgaming3067 7 років тому +6

      Patrik Miskovic lol. Cant play even play most games 1080p on utlra . Piece of shit here in 2017.

    • @batu-740
      @batu-740 7 років тому +19

      wtf are you talking

    • @firstlast417
      @firstlast417 7 років тому +26

      Did you even look at the benchmarks? The September 2014 $329 GTX 970 matched in most games if didn't down beat the June 2015 $329 R9 390 heater. Only time the 2014 (3 year) card fell behind was in AMD favored games or when that 3.5 ram got in the way. King of what? Being the best heater for your room since 2015?

    • @batu-740
      @batu-740 7 років тому +30

      The R9 390 beats the gtx 970 in almost every game and is future proof. When you bought a gtx 970 back then, you need to upgrade in the future.. 3.5 is nothing anymore, but with a 390 you have a 2015 Videocard you dont even need to upgrade.. so stfu pls

    • @batu-740
      @batu-740 7 років тому +7

      Now people need to upgrade their gtx 980 because nvidia was too greedy to put cheap gddr5 vram on their gpu. Enough power but 4gb vram says fuck you give me your money

  • @charliebrownau
    @charliebrownau 7 років тому +1

    Gday I am still using R9 380 4gb Nitro . I get 70-75-93 fps in most games at 1080p on very high and ULTRA with the right custom settings , I see no reason to change till I get a fancy 95-144-185-200hz freesync screen

  • @vincentjones1014
    @vincentjones1014 7 років тому +28

    Both cards are still good. got my 970 still won't upgrade for a while

    • @chillazar
      @chillazar 7 років тому +8

      Upgrading from an R9 290/390(X) or GTX 970 is only worth when at least buying a GTXv 1070 or higher

    • @thegamingarsenal1662
      @thegamingarsenal1662 4 роки тому

      @@chillazar NOPE NOT 1070 I THINK RTX 2060 WOULD BE A NICE UPGRADE

  • @jsed88
    @jsed88 7 років тому +1

    Hi Steve, just subscribed to your channel. Thank you very much for this video and the R9 290 video. This convinced me very much not to ditch my Sapphire R9 390 Nitro+. Thanks again, and I'll go over your other videos.

  • @abluequaker5486
    @abluequaker5486 7 років тому

    I rebuilt my old 4790K PC with its SLI 970s the other day as a Guest/Family PC and it's running Darksouls III @ 1080 60 FPS on ultra fairly easily. The GTX 970 was and still is a beast for how much they cost.

  • @Na0uta
    @Na0uta 7 років тому

    Glad to see the 970 held up alright in current games. I got 2 for SLI and they haven't let me down yet. got the pair for about 400usd In 2015.

  • @MrHeHim
    @MrHeHim 6 років тому

    Picked up a used R9 390 8GB about 6 months ago for $175USD (around October 2017) when Bitcoin mining was shooting back up and the used cards where around $300USD.
    Just checked pricing on used GPU's and the cheapest GTX 970 on eBay was $299 and $319 for the R9 390. On Craigslist Chicago area the cheapest was $250 for the GTX 970 and $600 for the R9 390 (that guy didn't get the Memo Bitcoin shot back down).

  • @GameFanism
    @GameFanism 7 років тому

    I have the MSI R9 390, I got it for 295 US dollars on Newegg back in late summer 2016 when I built my gaming PC. It's a good card. I have heard it's better than the RX 480/580. All I know is it still plays whatever games I throw at it. Depending on the price of whatever Vega turns out to be I might using the 390 for a while. The videos I have seen it keeps up with the RX 480 or even slightly better. It makes no sense to buy a GTX 970 and pay for 4GB of video memory and only get 3.5GB. It also makes no sense to buy 480 or 580 if you can get a 390 cheaper. Only issue with the 390 is it gets hot. Mine never goes below 60 degress Celsius depending on the room temperature and it can easily reach 75 degrees Celsius while playing certain games (GTA V) and if over clocked it can get up to 80 degrees Celsius. I am using 3 140mm fans in my case, one is blocked by the HDD rack where my HD and SSD are. But still. If heat is an issue with you then get something that runs cooler.

  • @DaddySizeIt
    @DaddySizeIt 7 років тому

    I think I'm subbing to this channel just for the hilarious thumbnail pics for each video.

  • @xfist2facex
    @xfist2facex 7 років тому

    Nice review, I love seeing these "reasonably" priced older cards reviewed as they still hold a lot of relevance in today's market. I think it might be worth mentioning too, the 290s and 390s have the possibility to unlock extra shader units to their full X counterparts, certainly not all of them but some of them can.
    Thank you again.

  • @evilmarc
    @evilmarc 7 років тому

    I had to decide between the 970 and 290 when buying my GPU. Went 970 because it's nice and quiet. Good to see both cards are still doing good though! I've been feeling the age of the card a bit because Ultra isn't working anymore but still a very nice card.

  • @andrewsolis2988
    @andrewsolis2988 6 років тому

    I am still rocking an R9 390 in 2018 😎 due to graphics cards prices. Paired with my Ryzen 5 1600 it seems to do pretty darn good, even at 1440p

  • @CoalitionGaming
    @CoalitionGaming 7 років тому

    Do you keep a sort of "standard image" of windows + games for testing? Or do you just have a stationary test system and you just DDU the drivers between GPU tests? Awesome work man, funny bit with the blue sweater.

  • @Tico2858
    @Tico2858 7 років тому

    Picked up a G1 gaming R9 390 for $215 posted from OCAU, am happy man.
    I just hope my bequiet 400w psu can run it until I upgrade to a modular psu over the next few weeks

  • @randalllawkin
    @randalllawkin 7 років тому

    awesome videos I just love how you guys bench way more games than any of my favorite UA-camrs. The broad bench of games instead of just 3 or 5 is very helpful on picking the right hardware as each have strengths and weaknesses​ with different games and hardware setup. I really do appreciate the hard work you put in which I know can be very time consuming. As I get the green light from the wife to upgrade my hardware ( still rocking my 8350 and my hd7870) I also plan to venture into the UA-camrs realm.

  • @oldgamergene5712
    @oldgamergene5712 6 років тому +1

    great video - I did pick up a GTX 970 as new GPUs are just ridiculous in price.

  • @n1kobg
    @n1kobg 7 років тому

    Steve I have 2 suggestions:
    1. Revisit GTX470 - its still a good card for 1080p on Low or Medium settings.
    2. Make a comparisson between Maxwell & Pascal on the same clock speeds.
    I think thery are very similar performance. Pascal is Maxwell on a smaller microarchitecture with better collor compression in its origin. What's your oppinion?

  • @KannX
    @KannX 7 років тому

    I've got 970 (and 4690K@4.3GHz) and when I switched to 1440p monitor I was surprised. After reducing some details in recent games (mostly shadow quality and SSAO) I'm still able to play in 60fps. Good card but I plan to upgrade to 1080 or new Volta when it comes.

  • @TheBullDurham
    @TheBullDurham 7 років тому

    There are very few reviews of the R9 390, most reviews are of the R9 390X. I love my Gigabyte R9 390 8GB G1 and my only issue with it is the locked voltage.

  • @ViralWatchMedia
    @ViralWatchMedia 5 років тому

    these cards are still killing it in games even in 2019, they are cheap as hell too, on ebay both GPU's are around $90 with free shipping. So nows the best time to be a PC gamer because you have a shit load of GPU choices when it comes to the used market. Brother scored a R9 390 on Ebay for $82 free shipped, game runs everything maxed out easily above 60FPS.

  • @01Gamemaster10
    @01Gamemaster10 7 років тому

    I have a R9 390......Still a great card and some games you can even play on 4K (Doom, BF1...high settings).
    Waiting for VEGA to release

  • @NeoVoodooTech
    @NeoVoodooTech 7 років тому +1

    Hey brother early congrats on 100k! All those long hours turning screws, plugging in connectors and standing in front hot gpu and cpu exhaust have paid off! be honest how many times have you seen Firestrike or Valley? What about the GTA V benchmark? lol To continued success! May your temps be low and your frame rates high. 200k here we come!

  • @adriaanerasmus1947
    @adriaanerasmus1947 7 років тому

    hey tons of respect for all the hard work done, I am using a R9 390x I regularly see 5gb plus vram being used also I have a decent msi version running 1220mhz on the core and 1685mhz on the ram I think your card wasn't very good cause mine oc about 15% over standard. very good video with the hardware on hand!

  • @VEN0M415
    @VEN0M415 7 років тому

    I bought a 970 because it came with wit her and ohh my God did the 970 deliver, playing on ultra made the story feel so alive! Now that amd is starting to get their act together it's great to see the performance difference... I just wish it didn't take so long to do. if your 1080p gaming then both cards are fantastic, the only difference is your brand loyalty and on the off chance of you have a gsync or freesync monitor.

  • @MaTtRoSiTy
    @MaTtRoSiTy 7 років тому

    Good timing considering I've been having the 970 vs 390 discussion in the past few days....

  • @hellowalkman4506
    @hellowalkman4506 7 років тому +9

    HIS is a truly underrated AIB vendor !!!

    • @arenzricodexd4409
      @arenzricodexd4409 7 років тому

      while they make decent card i heard their customer support is a bit lacking.

    • @c0ldshock927
      @c0ldshock927 7 років тому

      Renzc ode Dosent matter in countries with no RMA centres whatsoever :P

    • @haxorinator8219
      @haxorinator8219 7 років тому

      hello walkman they're meh.
      I preferred HERS

  • @Rocky-bz8wr
    @Rocky-bz8wr 7 років тому

    Holy cow nice review or look back on how these cards perform in today's games. Thank You.
    I have a Sapphire Tri-X 390x card with high OC. I find it to be more than enough for me yet in today's games still. Now one of the things I found was in AMD settings under games Global Settings the tess setting. Id you take it from AMD Optimized and set it to 8x or 16x you will get a massive FPS boost in a lot of the games that are Nvidia favored games. The reason is in a lot of the games that favor Nvidia the tess setting will go to 64x on AMD cards which really is over kill. On the RX 400 series cards this type of thing is actually blocked from happening in either the drivers or built into the hardware itself. I play with the tess setting at 16x in all games and I found no difference on quality and the FPS are a lot higher for me at least they are. I am able to crank the setting max now and enjoy smooth FPS. I am surprised no one has checked this out before on youtube and if they have I missed it...lol

  • @fehllyy
    @fehllyy 6 років тому

    I think turning down settings down a tiny bit, especially AA, would help with 1440p performance. Considering that 1440p is giving you better fidelity, it's something I would do to save some frames

  • @Algorythm44
    @Algorythm44 7 років тому +2

    Back when I was looking at a 390 or 970 they were the same price and the same performance so I went with the 390 because it has more vram, and today it's sliiightly paid off. Unless you count all the people constantly telling me I made a bad purchase.
    Even though in this video the 390 came out a little bit ahead there are people raging in the comments about how the 970 is better, that's a bit too much fanboyism, if the brand names were covered up then everyone would agree the 390 would be a better choice

  • @TheIronRaven
    @TheIronRaven 5 років тому

    Got an MSI Radeon R9 390 for $220 NZD. When undervolted the card stays cooler and still maintains overclocks.

  • @GabrielCamilo84
    @GabrielCamilo84 7 років тому

    I love your videos, very professional, still entertainment. Tks for the good work.

  • @Dysphoricsmile
    @Dysphoricsmile 7 років тому +1

    PLEASE Do R9 390X and Fury versus GTX 980 and 980 Ti!

  • @sanmattew7221
    @sanmattew7221 7 років тому

    finally oced benches. They show the true power of the 970. Mine is oced @1510 and memory increased by around 500mhz more and it performs amazingly well.

  • @F7GOS
    @F7GOS 7 років тому +32

    R9 390 is still a beast! Great Video Steve Cheers!

    • @xiraijuakara5988
      @xiraijuakara5988 6 років тому +1

      yeah I don't regret getting it in 2015. Im still running my msi r9 390 now... trying to beat my old AMD Powercolour 5870 life span of 6 years. So far so good.

    • @cam0techunks
      @cam0techunks 5 років тому

      yeah but it has a blackscreen issue

  • @eman9372
    @eman9372 6 років тому

    I got a used msi r9 390 for $220 USD and it was a good purchase, sweet upgrade from my 270x btw to fix thermals change the thermal pads on the vrms, and my custom fan curve maxes the core at 50c

  • @syphon3341
    @syphon3341 7 років тому

    I'm loving these benchmarks Steve, it's really interesting to see how the older cards are holding up. I think it's time to bring out the big guns now.460gtx vs Radeon 5850 :p

  • @Abraxass88
    @Abraxass88 7 років тому

    Grate job Seve! As Always!
    Just a questione: in your testing the 8gb vram din't give any edge at the 390 over the 3.5 of the 970?

  • @Saynt614
    @Saynt614 6 років тому

    I'm an AMD guy. I've had my MSI R9 390 for two years now and it still works very well on new titles. Bought a freesync monitor as well and it's even better with uncapped frame rates. Not bad too considering how bloody expensive GPU's are right now.

    • @Saynt614
      @Saynt614 6 років тому

      In fact on Newegg my video card is nearly $300 more expensive than when I bought it two years ago... what the hell happened to the GPU market??

    • @SlicerCRO
      @SlicerCRO 6 років тому

      Bitcoin. Bitcoin happened.

  • @user-jb3if2ks7r
    @user-jb3if2ks7r 7 років тому

    Rocking a R9 290 Vapor-X, still kicking butt!

  • @aryanhalimy4880
    @aryanhalimy4880 7 років тому

    Amazing videos Steve, learnt a lot from your videoes

  • @twilightravens9798
    @twilightravens9798 6 років тому

    This makes me feel good about my 290X (seeing as its the same card as the 390X just less VRAM) to see that I can get another year or two out of it.

    • @Tsunami_415
      @Tsunami_415 6 років тому

      Your gonna be missing that extra VRAM soon unfortunately. Unless you turn down all textures.

  • @aaditolkar
    @aaditolkar 7 років тому

    Your dedication astounds me. Great job!

  • @phucnguyen0110
    @phucnguyen0110 7 років тому

    Great time for this kind of video, since I might consider an old GTX 970 for my next gaming PC build (if I ever managed to build one :p)

  • @RGV2300
    @RGV2300 7 років тому +1

    I found impressive how that 970 overclocks well with passive cooling.

  • @BeyondEllisBeck
    @BeyondEllisBeck 7 років тому

    Thank you for working so hard on this great Video! Also, I know this might sound POINTLESS but could you do a video on how overclocking the memory on a GPU actually effects FPS on stock Core speeds? Like GTX 1070 with stock Core clock but overclocked memory with the Fury X also with stock Core clock and overclocked memory?

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  7 років тому

      This kind of addresses that...
      ua-cam.com/video/pbOS9XQUQXA/v-deo.html

    • @BeyondEllisBeck
      @BeyondEllisBeck 7 років тому

      Hardware Unboxed Thank you so much! This is close to what I was looking for. Keep up the good work!

  • @BryantPayton
    @BryantPayton 7 років тому

    I just found your channel a few days ago and I absolutely love it. The amount of work you put into these videos is insane, keep it up!

  • @YourCRTube
    @YourCRTube 7 років тому

    Good job, testing all these games, most of them being actually modern - enough with Crysis 3 already! Still, probably Dishonored and Mass Effect should have been on the list as well.

  • @bhoylhogro5093
    @bhoylhogro5093 7 років тому +5

    I prefer power efficiency over raw performance. Hence, I got a 1050 Ti. Not the best when playing the newest games, but I never bought it for such. I just wanted a decent card that can be used to play titles like Doom reasonably well.

    • @MrAntieMatter
      @MrAntieMatter 7 років тому +1

      What is your profile picture? It confuses and terrifies me.

    • @bhoylhogro5093
      @bhoylhogro5093 7 років тому

      She's the recruitable Magical Anime Girl in the game "Death Road to Canada," a permadeath road trip simulator inspired by Oregon Trail game mechanics. What you can see in my profile picture is her final form.

    • @AssassinKID
      @AssassinKID 7 років тому

      Yep, it's a great card for general gamers. I usually recommend the 1050Ti for peope who don't know much about PC but still like to play popular games, or people who bought prebuilts and want to upgrade to something playable without breaking the bank.

    • @haxorinator8219
      @haxorinator8219 7 років тому

      Power efficiency has been proven to be "blown out of the water"
      Difference in electrical costs are negligible from a 150w card to a 300w card.
      And if you're talking efficiency, a 1060 is nearly 200% the performance but less than 150% power draw of the 1050ti :/
      Which would make it more efficient in terms of dollars per frame or even frame per watt.
      Low(ish) end cards are seldom the best value

    • @bhoylhogro5093
      @bhoylhogro5093 7 років тому +1

      +Haxor inator thanks for the info. As much as I'd like to get a 1060, it's double the cost of my 1050Ti where I'm from. Honestly, I'm gaming mostly with indie titles and only a few older AAA games/console ports like Bayonetta. The most demanding game I currently have is only Doom.

  • @HeroikKK
    @HeroikKK 7 років тому

    i have the 390 and as a budget purchase it was a good card, but living with it is another matter, it gets VERY hot even after market versions. Has ALOT of coil whine in wierd places, i went for the 390 as it was much cheaper than the 970, but now adays if i had to chose again id go 970 or 980 for the extra bucks.

  • @thecameraman8648
    @thecameraman8648 5 років тому

    Heck yeah. I manage to find a r9 390 for 50 dollars and I'm so happy with it. Great job benchmarking multiple cards to show the differant results relative to the r9 390 is quite the powerhouse.

  • @fpsshani
    @fpsshani 7 років тому

    amazing work as always which AMD driver version you used for benchmarking?

  • @shido8597
    @shido8597 7 років тому +67

    oh nice the 390

  • @11psychoclown
    @11psychoclown 7 років тому

    Freaking THANK YOU once again for your hard work! And once again a big thank you for including doom, titanfall 2 and overwatch!

  • @farky84
    @farky84 7 років тому

    Hi Steve,
    Nice job with the benchmarks! I have the same GTX 970 card and wanted to see the OC clock speeds but I didn't find it in the article. Can you pleas share it?
    I'm planning on getting a 4K IPS monitor. Hopefully the 970 will handle it well. I have no problem with lowering graphic details to Medium or even Low in games in order to get a stable 60fps in 4K. Do you think the 970 is up to this task? I play games like CSGO, SC2, BF3&4, HOMM6, AoW3, Mass effect series, Doom, etc...
    Keep up the good work,
    Peter

  • @bliglum
    @bliglum 7 років тому

    Went over the Overclock of the R9 390 in detail, but no mention of the 970's overclock numbers?

  • @MattTheriot
    @MattTheriot 7 років тому

    I had to RMA my RX480, and am still waiting for it to get back.
    In the meantime I found a GTX 970 (msi gaming) for $40 (yes $40!) at a thirft store.
    On impulse, I then bought a second GTX 970 for $150 USD on ebay cause it seemed like a good deal.
    Now I have a 970 SLI setup and for better or worse, it'll probably perform wonderfully in some games and not so good in others with poor sli support.

  • @Dysphoricsmile
    @Dysphoricsmile 7 років тому +2

    Im the USA you can find used GTX 980 Tis for just $260 right now, and at that price they are THE BEST DEAL EVER! Especially if you overclock them to 1400+ core at which point they are FASTER than a GTX 1070!

    • @mastermind5421
      @mastermind5421 7 років тому +1

      DysphoricSmile yeah I got one for $260 the other day lol and my friend got one for $200

    • @Dysphoricsmile
      @Dysphoricsmile 6 років тому

      They have gone back up in price again, because they WERE the best value per dollar high end GPU, and now everyone wants one, because like I said, BETTER performance - significantly so than a GTX 1070, especially if like me, you can hit 1500+ MHZ core and 8 GHZ effective VRAM.
      I am still absolute THRILLED having bought my G1 Gaming GTX 980 Ti for $355 in August 2016! I have literally got basically 1070 Ti performance for a solid ~$60+ less than a good GTX 1070 would have cost at best!

  • @TEDdeMedici
    @TEDdeMedici 7 років тому

    I think there's still a few 970s brand new at the stores in the Capitol Square, Sydney for around $250-300 mark.

    • @ubertiger151
      @ubertiger151 7 років тому

      thats way too expensive. considering the 1060 is cheaper than that

  • @ccotunai
    @ccotunai 7 років тому

    Very comprehensive. Thanks a lot !

  • @aleefmohammed244
    @aleefmohammed244 7 років тому

    R9 390 is still a very good GPU. Still playing games in 1440P and lowering some settings like Ambient Occlusion to SSAO, Shadows to medium, AA to FXAA and you can get 60FPS in most titles, unless if its shitty optimization like Ghost Recon Wildlands ( On ultra ) and Deus Ex . In any case you can always change the resolution to 1080P.

  • @steamedauroraborealis8208
    @steamedauroraborealis8208 6 років тому

    The 970 will always be my biggest tech regret. When I bought mine, the R9 390 literally came out just a week later offering similar performance but 8gb of RAM. That 8GB of RAM made me feel sick to my stomach. I was coming from a GTX 760, so I thought ok sweet 970 has twice the RAM, then BAM.
    Though you picked the most confusing card to compare in this graph haha. With OC being in the title, and also testing stock and OC makes it a scavenger hunt to see if you're looking at the stock oc results, or the oc oc results.

  • @martijnvanzanen4075
    @martijnvanzanen4075 7 років тому

    Am still very happy with the 970.
    I got the EVGA with acx 2.0 cooling or so.

  • @aronsiroky4795
    @aronsiroky4795 7 років тому

    awesome video top quality ( i have the r9 390 same clock 1120) have a good day :)

  • @thegutestboi5948
    @thegutestboi5948 7 років тому

    G'day Steve. Great vid mate, I'm loving the channel.

  • @jacoblee2296
    @jacoblee2296 7 років тому

    So much work... Amazing review!!!

  • @ViperDent
    @ViperDent 7 років тому

    That Gainward cooler is one of the nicest looking GPU Coolers by any other company

  • @ExacoMvm
    @ExacoMvm 7 років тому

    Just get a new 980Ti, you can easily find one for around 320$, outperforms the 1070 and in some games/soft performs as the 1080.
    Unigine Benchmarks:
    1080:
    i.gyazo.com/a450e2143753c8040c38c5e4717f7ee1.png
    1070:
    i.gyazo.com/648245c408273c3b122d149e0db73591.png
    980Ti:
    i.gyazo.com/349b49a457d093a170658cf58f1f2f5c.png
    970:
    i.gyazo.com/fbbeceb24cbc3bf69cdc575626602018.png
    RX 480:
    i.gyazo.com/67edd23c1b90fea617f7b37a69729d6b.png
    May not translate into gaming like that due to CPU bottlenecking and other specs since most games uses CPU and GPU 50:50 also even some doesnt support more than 2cores and is itself cpu intensive, so GPU wont help e.g. Lineage 2 ( 1 Core only ), Tera ( 2core only ), Fallout 4, but since Ungine benchmarks utilizes almost only the GPU you can clearly see which one has better performance.
    Also some game devs is partnered lets say with AMD or Nvidia, so if youre playing "AMD" game with nvidia card that is slightly faster you most likely will get less fps even your card is stronger.

  • @Imagine_Breaker
    @Imagine_Breaker 7 років тому

    nice to see the blue shirt come back!, even if it was for a small frame of time.

  • @LolJolk
    @LolJolk 7 років тому +6

    That his iceq card is amazing

    • @seyf1212
      @seyf1212 7 років тому

      Lol Jolk i never heard of this card

  • @gergh8301
    @gergh8301 7 років тому

    Sick benchmarks, as usual. It would be nice to see an AMD vs NVIDIA 2.0 with the new games and the refreshed polaris.

  • @wakesake
    @wakesake 7 років тому

    That huge OC window on the Nvidia cards is the key to performance

  • @VIOLENTSCHEME
    @VIOLENTSCHEME 7 років тому

    just picked up an r9 390 from a buddy i went to school with for $160.. Unbelievably stoked.

  • @eternalwings7
    @eternalwings7 7 років тому

    I was thinking about buying GTX 1060 when it was released one year ago. However, looking at this graphs now, it seems GTX 1060 is not really an upgrade over Radeon R9 290 since my R9 290 can overclock like R9 390. The only problem is power consumption but I think I can wait until NVIDIA release Geforce Volta.

  • @MaxpunchIDK
    @MaxpunchIDK 7 років тому

    I would like to see the same comparison between the GTX960 and the R9 380.
    Thanks for the nice videos I like your content. :)

  • @tarcal87
    @tarcal87 7 років тому

    It might not be a popular view, but imo:
    - We need competition. So if you can (that is, if its performance is suitable for you), support AMD by buying their product (new, that is. Buying a used one was already paid for once - trivial huh).
    - If for some reason you must by NVidia, at least buy it used so that you don't put more money in their pockets.
    It's not fanboyism, it's that we badly need competition. With AMD focusing hard on the server market (with Zen / Epyc) and the AI / machine learning market with big Vega (FE), we don't want one player remaining on the gaming industry right? For GPUs. AMD could choose to stop competing altogether with gaming products and focus their investment, research etc to those other two big fields that are much much more profitable. I don't want a monopoly left in the GPU market.

  • @Pan_Z
    @Pan_Z 7 років тому

    Hard to argue with your results when you benchmarks that many games. Great vid, as usual :)

  • @kraithaywire
    @kraithaywire 7 років тому

    The good old days!
    Thanks for the revisit, Steve. Great video!

  • @scornthegreat7336
    @scornthegreat7336 7 років тому

    Thank you for making these incredibly good videos for us, I really love them!

  • @leeadkins1360
    @leeadkins1360 7 років тому

    94k Subs! Not long to 100k now :D Good job, you deserve it!