BrokenGrandAm Series Episode 3: Security Issues! Bypass and Changing ignitions.
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2019
- Episode 3 we talk about the notorious security issue, leaving you with a no start!
Side Note: This goes for 99-05 Grand ams as well as 99-03 Aleros and 99-03 Malibus!
Topics:
Tools: 2:25
Unhook Battery: 2:32
Remove Radio: 2:55
Remove Ignition: 4:12
Bypass @ Ignition: 4:40
Replace Ignition: 5:27
Reassemble Ignition: 6:57
Remove BCM: 8:20
Bypass @ BCM: 9:25
Reassemble Dash: 10:44
AC Fuse: 11:11
Relearn: 11:32
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Also, this video is to aid in helping diagnose and fix car issues. Not 100% guaranteed to help, and im not responsible if you break something!
Very helpful 💯👍🏾👀 so frustrating when car starts then shuts off. Good to know it's an easy fix.
killing it my dude haha i love the channel I have a buck of a grand am and this helped me out thank you👍
This is a great video. It is very helpful. My Pontiac Grand AM 2001 Is having the same issue. Thanks to your video now I know how to fix that problem.
Awesome .. Thank you for sharing this info. My 3 wires at the ignition are black and white are a yellow wire and a green wire. I'm not sure which ones to use well yellow on obviously but black and white or the green wire with it? I'm about to go get a resister and just do it
Might be faded from another color? According to wire schematics from 99-05. Black white and yellow are the 3 wire colors.
How did you get your ignition switch to move all the way above the radio? Im trying to replace my switch but it doesn't seem to want to move that far over like the wires are to short to move it that far over?
Does the V6 allow the Starter to engage? I have an 01 SE with the 2.4l Twin Cam that triggers frequently and the starter engages but car won't start. Used to have an 04 Alero V6 and had this happen a few times, but don't remember if the starter engaged or not.
yes the starter still engages, the fuel injectors are disabled!
what size resistor did you use to jump between the black and yellow wire? it wasnt marked down in your video break down.
2200k ohm 1/2 watt
I have a 1996 Pontiac Grand Am and I've had this security issue for a few months. I've done the method of leaving the key in for 10 minutes and then the car starts up . Sometimes it starts right away. Its been working for a while but due to life and emergencies i can't keep doing this forever . So I'm wondering what is a permanent way of getting rid of this???
Could be the fix, outside of a new igniton however being a different generation I'm not 100% sure
Once I install the 2.2K resistor and do the relearn process, can I use standard non-transponder keys? If so, I thank you because the spare keys will cost $2.50 instead of $80 to cut and program.
Yes, you can actually get away with standard keys before such. Back before learning of all this. With my first white GT I had a spare cut at Walmart for a couple bucks and it would start the car fine.
Thanks, this may just help me get my uncle home
Do I attach the resistor to the ignition wires or the wires for the module please advise or to the
The wires going back to the bcm. What your doing is giving the bcm the correct resistance. Bypassing the ignition module.
will this work with a 2005 grand prix? my son cars starts and drives but the lights and horn blink and honk.
I do believe it's the same ignition but can't 100% say yes or no.
Will this method work on a 97 2.4l poniac sunfire
It's an older stye security setup, so I'm unsure.
Ill soon be having a 2004 grabd am gt donated to me and was thinking of swapping the 3.4 in it to something small and light do you think ill have to transfer over the security system pcm and bcm? Or do this bypass and from there on ill he good to drop?
You'll need the bcm changed. The vin needs to match the pcm!
@@KMaffittGAGT Ah ok gotcha! I appreciatte the reply! :)
WHY would you want to do that? The 2.2l EcoTec produces less horsepower and torque and BARELY gets better gas mileage
Do you have a link to the resistor? My 02 wouldnt start this morning with the security light blinking. I have read of this problem but this is the first time It has happened to me.
Check on eBay!. It's always changing so I couldn't leave a solid link for it. Gm ignition bypass as a search will get you what your looking for!
@@KMaffittGAGT Ok thanks, I'll see what I can find.
So quick question for you. Is it as simple as disconnecting the battery, going to either the BCM or ignition, cutting those two wires, and installing the resistor? Oh, and of course the relearn process. Some other people on several other videos stated they had to put a voltage tester on the wires and wait for a certain resistance, snip the wires, then install the resistor. My car decided it wanted to not be so nice and the security light came on last night, lol.
It really is!. The 2200k ohm resistor is a fix all. I've done the bypass on at least 20 of these cars using a pack of all the same resistors!!
@@KMaffittGAGT awesome man! Sounds to me like I'll save myself a headache!
I recently got an 04 Grand Am and I'm experienced working on cars but electrical is my weakest area. I completely understand and follow you about putting in the resistor to bypass this security headache. Is that option finished? I'm confused because at 5:26 I don't understand what you're doing, and can't follow what you're saying about it. Is it more work that must be done w/ the resistor, or, as you say a few seconds before this segment, around 5:19, is this the 2nd way this security bypass is done on the BCM side? Why did you take the lock cylinder out, unplug some wires, then put the lock cylinder back in? Thanks!
So I'm show casing the entire ignition. Not just the bypass. The bypass can be done at either spot, whatever is easier for whoever is doing it! But it is a simple as adding that resistor in.
Something else to take from this, some prefer to change the ignition itself to hopefully solve this problem. I however have found new ignitions to do the same thing!
@@KMaffittGAGT Hi there, that's exactly what mine does. 2001 grand am, I changed the key cylinder, new keys and all. Put it back together. Solid security light still. Do I need to have the security code erased with a code reader tool, (auto zone can check you car for free with them)? Or would I have to go to a dealer? I still have to do the 10 minute, wait in auxiliary position, trick but not all the time. I turn it to aux, in 6 minutes my battery light turned out, I then heard a click, then a hum from the fuel pump, it then stopped, I turned the key off then I went to start it and it fired right up!
Sorry this is long, let me know if I need to just get the security light cleared, even with a new key cylinder installed.
Thanks buddy!
@@Scottocaster6668 your problem is most likely in the bcm or wiring between that and the key cylinder. This is where the resistor bypass is a cover all solution!! The light and fault will go away once resolved, you don't need to clear it.
@@KMaffittGAGT ok, so I just need to work at the key cylinder area, not under the dash where the 3 large plugs are?
What’s the what’s block with the resistor?
Just a fancy connector I got a bunch of back in the day when radio shack was alive! Any connector will work.
Can you tell me if the BCM had some moisture exposure would it cause a bigger issue along with doing the bypass.
Yes It could. It's a semi common problem!!
@@KMaffittGAGT is it a easy fix,can it be done?😊Btw Thank you for your videos, your helping so many ppl.
@@KMaffittGAGT I ask cause I'm in Canada and there's some cold and damp weather here.😱
@@RachealCU the work is very easy. It's under the passenger side of the dash!! However you'll need a dealership to flash the correct vin onto it.
Thank you so much,your brilliant!😊
What is the name of that piece i need to buy?
What if the white wire isn't hooked to the switch
So I am supper inexperianced at all this but will this make my car undriveable and all that because everyone i have talked to says that this works for a few months and then makes it so you cant even turn it on.
Doing the bypass will not cause any issues. Mine been bypassed for years, your taking all variables out of the equation! Make sure connections are all good, do the relearn and you'll be good!
@@KMaffittGAGT thank you. You explain this really well. I think I will have to try it. I mean it beats my car pulling its security crap every time i go to drive it
@@gabriellesmith7360 no problem! And I agree!
Sorry if you do not know the answer, but would this work on a 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GT?
In theory it should as gm ignitions of the time were all similar. But Im not 100% certain.
@@KMaffittGAGT Thank you for the quick reply, not sure if it is night where you are, but it is pretty late where i am, You def got a new subscriber for the quick reply. Hope you have a good day, and thanks for the info, will try it this weekend.
@@Eterna1Link not a problem. Please report back with results!!
Why do all the others that explain the by pass says not to cut the black wire into but splice it solid with the yellow wire being cut and tied from the BCM to the black wire and back to the switch? Are you sure about cutting the black wire out completely in the circuit and just spliceing it over to the yellow wire?
How I have it done here is taken from a write up that's at least 15 years old and has been used for that long! I've seen other approaches that end up with other conditions. This approach isolates the ignition out of the equation completely. So the bcm is only seeing the resistor. There's no switch in this setup. Only the resistor.
Originally did this from bcm didn’t work correctly maybe continuity of ground wasn’t correct so I added a ground. Did not work so I resoldered yellow cable together. Now I am redoing it from ignition switch which btw is much easier… I have no flashing security light during relearn process is it still going to work?
Yes! It'll relearn and you'll be good to go. Haven't had issues or any reports if issues at the bcm. Possibly grabbing the wrong with(they're super hard to work with)? I do prefer at the ignition as well!
@@KMaffittGAGT I find it amazing how you’ve been able to respond to both my comments within 10 minutes. I’m still sitting in the car waiting for that 15 minutes to be up I appreciate your videos and definitely watch plenty more
@@jt9264 I try may best to respond quick and effectively. To me, that show integrity of a channel! I'm here to help people any way I can!!
@@KMaffittGAGT not sure if you know the fix but the relearn process failed and no lights are turning on on my dash although it still makes noise and lights work fine.
@@jt9264 so every once in a while if the bypass doesn't happen to work, it turns out the bcm itself is actually the culprit. No light is an indicator there's no issue. Does the car start?
I found my issue was the connection to my CPU. The harness was bad. It's in the front by the driver side headlight.
That is the abs module!
@@KMaffittGAGT thanks big and silver with three harnesses running out of it? Yeah I figured later the car was doing it as a safety feature.
Cantu help me I have green ignition what wires do I do
Your looking in the wrong area. All years for these cars the security has white black and yellow. Unless ofcourse someone added wire, which I wouldn't know what they did.
Thank you
I have 5 wires not three.... white, white and black, black, black and red, and red... which do I connect to black?
What vehicle? All gm ignitions this will work with only have 3 wires. If it's a different ignition then I can't guarantee it'll work. Maybe your looking in the wrong area?
@@KMaffittGAGT 07 pontiac g6. Lol I've been looking everywhere
@@KMaffittGAGT thanks for the reply though 👍 it's nice to hear back from someone either way.
@@bobbyhandley5581 I gotcha! That is a different setup! And no problem!
@@KMaffittGAGT do you know which wire it may be or where I could find the wiring diagram? Lol
My car is doing this now ima going to try this and see what happens
Let me know of an questions. I've done this on dozens and have helped so many other do it to their cars to remove the security from ever giving an issue again.
I got a 03 grand am but the key won’t turn at all tried everything
Key might be worn out then.
@@KMaffittGAGT I got a new ignition lock cylinder the keys that came with it fit right in but still wouldn’t turn over trying to replace the lock cylinder
@@J.Solano_ hmm. That's an odd one! Maybe the lock cylinder is in upside down? Can't say I've had any issues changing lock cylinders.
Where can I get the white clips from?
Used to be at radio shack. Basic crimp style wire connector will do.
Thank you so much @KMaffittGAGT I’ve replaced the starter,alternator,and battery it started and ran for 20 mins and I went to start it again later and it has all the lights full volume on radio nothing is dim so hopefully this spares me from more $$$ having to be wasted
Ive tryed this 3 times and still doesn't work,,,,,,followed your vido to the T,,,,any ideas,,,,,??
Could also have a bad bcm or an issue in the wiring off the car. Are you sure it's the security causing a no start?
@@KMaffittGAGT Im pretty sure i done the reset three times before it wouldnt start,,,,when i tryed to start it the trunk lid pops up,,,,,Thank you for your answer,,,,
@@carltheede8805 sounds like an issue inside the bcm. Semi common that they get water inside and corrode!
What about a Pontiac g6
That has something different i believe, thats a whole new platform.
I usually just get naked and jump in the trunk while playing fortnite on my phone
So they would’ve had to of had a key to tear The bottom of my dash up which is what they did stealing my stuff out of my car
Oh no!!
It's a pain in the A$$, but you CAN remove the bezel with car in park! Just a lot more difficult to put it back!
I am so sick of thieves
Takes one to know one (:
Mclovin