I loved the open of this episode. The facial expressions and the utter relief when Tam took his helmet off, put his sword in the ground, and was like "I'm here to help" without saying those words was just marvelous. This was amazing. The whole episode was.
I thought from the end of Ep6 when Moiraine channeled to open the Waygate that they'd really messed things up for later storylines, but now I have a theory. She wanted the EF5 to think that was the only way to open them, so that once inside they'd be committed and couldn't turn back. When she met with Loial to set up the journey, she told him not to let them know that there is another way to open them, so when they asked he just told them "You cannot use the One Power inside the Ways" because of the danger of Machin Shin. What bugs me is that none of them questioned how they were going to get out at the other end without using the One Power. I suspect that they'll find out in Ep8 (or S2Ep1) that Padan Fain used the Ways and find out from him that you don't need the One Power to open a Waygate - there's a still for this Ep showing him holding a stone Avendesora leaf. The EF5 will trust Moiraine even less, although she didn't actually lie to them - she let Loial lie by omission.
You're thinking way too much. It's nothing that deep. The show constantly just glosses over things, and don't even hope it will ever be addressed again later, it won't.
Love the show. The cast is phenomenal, all of them. But the crew is doing a wonderful job bringing this world to life. Thanks to each of you, from a long-time lover of the book series!!
Absolutely love the show. The cast is perfect, they embody their characters so well. I especially love everyone. The crew is amazing at their jobs, I know how much work goes on behind the scenes to make the actors shine. And the Tweeter Of Chaos and False Tweeter of Chaos are just brilliant at interacting with fans. Tai'Shar!
Such an amazing tv show!! It keeps getting better and better and for how strong it started being even better is a very mind-blowing accomplishment Also Moiraine and Siuan forever, will ship them together till the end of time 🥰
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I binged the first four episodes and now I'm on the weekly train, waiting for the finale now. Also, I'm on my first rewatch, got my partner into it now by talking about the show nonstop! He's in love too, and we've been discussing loads of theories. Additionally, I started with the first book... So the show got me into reading again. What a surprise hit for me. Thanks to everyone on the show, and to Dusty for this lovely aftershow.
That's my theory. The finale will cold open with us getting some of the backstory that the book readers got right up front. I've seen a screencap of that scene somewhere so I know it has been shot. The only way it can really fit into the storyline is as a cold open.
Loving the show, long-time fan of the books, and canNOT wait for the season finale. Look out for Slick Rick! And hope we get to see some of Brother Book.
So on episode one, I recognised Egwene aka Madeleine Madden. She is an Aussie actor who starred in a Australian drama Mystery Road. She was brilliant in that series as she is in WOT. Well done Madeleine 👏 ✔ 👍 👌 🇦🇺
Thank you to Matt, Riddhima, Kritter, and Daniel for doing such a great job! I am thankful to Amazon for putting this show together and choosing the weekly drop format to so we have time to analyze, anticipate, and get excited for week's episodes. It also provides a forum for shows like yours! Matt I really enjoy the cast and crew interviews to date! It is exciting to see the insights from those that made the show! I am very excited for the finale! I also can't wait for season 2!
Amazon, please make more episodes per season! Love the show, but it could have been even better with more episodes. So everything won't feel so rushed and can get explained better.
That's down to the writers, not Amazon, ultimately. Most show these days have to work within such constrains (and many, with way less money). They need to learn to work with what they got: better writing, better editing: that's what they're paid for.
My family and I watch every week, this is the only show that is appointment television for us. Outstanding work thus far, we're so excited to see more. 👍🏽👍🏽👏🏽🙌🏽🥰
Having Matt Hatch as your Innkeeper was an excellent choice! I am enjoying the show as it is just different enough to keep me guessing but close enough in main spirit of the books in my view to keep me watching to see what is next!
Julian: "Hi Dusty Wheel!" Matt: "...and I'm sure all the fans are saying hi right back." Me: *Waving excitedly at the screen even though I know no-one can see me*
The books are so much better. I'm still enjoying watching the show but they have definitely left a lot of room for improvement for season 2. I feel like the season finale will make it or break it for me.
Great chat. Need these to tide me over in between each episode! That aiel opening was unreal, and really enjoyed meeting Min and Agelmar. Can’t wait for the final
One of the you tube sites showed a picture of Padan Faine looking at an Avendesora leaf. I cannot remember the host name but they said it was a production photo that didn’t make it into the show.
I noticed this too but on rewatch she had it up at the start, pulled it down when she initially thought she was safe to give birth and was done fighting.
Kinda busy trying to spit out a baby, yo. Also not a born and bred Aiel so covering her face probably didn't take priority over you know like staying alive long enough to give birth.
@@tamsinp7711 oh, I'm a bookie. I know that, but since you cannot move it to make the Waygate open they might have changed that as well, but probably cut because of Amazon-reasons. So I figure - ter'angteal.
@@phnome123 I think we just didn't see the leaf being used in this Ep, but will in either the next one or in Season 2. In the books you could remove them but doing so either locks the gate open or closed.
Episode 5 of this podcast, about episode 7. They're just as bad as social media as Dragonmount. It feels like a radio show from the 9o'. I liked DW, but not suited for the job. Younger, more energetic UA-camrs with larger audience would have worked way better. This feels....old.
I am in love with the series! Thank you to all the people that brought my favourite books to life, can't wait to spend my birthday watching the last episode with my favourite cast!
I am disappointed. The producer/director spends way to much time on gratuitous sexual material or romantic scenes, rather than just telling a good story. The character development is shallow and weak. Only Perrin gets a decent amount of development. There is so much missing about Rand’s training. It would be nice if Amazon would step in and right this sinking ship. Give the producer a big budget and let them make 23 episode seasons, as this series deserves; stop being cheap! Tell the producer to focus on accuracy toward the books, not his personal vision, because we don’t gaf about him, we read the books because of the late Robert Jordan, God rest his soul, and Brandon Sanderson. You should hire Peter Jackson to do this series properly.
Really enjoyed the show so far (mostly). Great acting and characters really gel well. I am hoping for a bit more nuance with the one power next season because although Nyneaves giant power spheres (both healing and holding off the black wind) look good, from a wilder its just too easy. Why would she bother going to the white tower if she can already do all that....
Even though there were changes, the only real criticism I have of the show is there are so few episodes. So c'mon Amazon, cough up some more budget for additional episodes for your most popular show to date.
@Anne Day Right. Removed. Yet, someone who has read the book should not call her Aiel. Say "she may be an Aiel" one could say instead. Since Aiel were not introduced yet. Oh, is that not another spoiler?
@Anne Day Of course I removed after you pointed out. I usually don't comment on channels where I have to pay attention to spoilers and I was careless. Naturally I don't want to ruin the show for others. It just bothered me to hear "some Aiel woman" and commented without further thinking. (The statement in this form still bothers me, though... Anyway.) All the best, enjoy the show!
Never understood why people like Min so much, compared to nearly any other charater in the books the only thing she really does is get diddled on Rands knee.
Read the series and don't understand how people like this show. Bad casting, bad acting except for a few, bad production, changes that fundamentally change the characters and story. I understand you need to make changes to make it a viable show, but keep the character's tone, experience and motivations the same. It looks so cheap and cheesy to me compared to many other fantasy shows out there. They took a great book series and killed it.
Read the books. These series are such a disgrace. I never thought that someone could mess everything so bad. If you can't read - create your own fantasy universe and don't destroy others' work.
The show is horrendously bad in my opinion, it's like a CW soapy super hero show crossed with a low budget Lord of the Rings with all the boxes ticked and no risks taken. The irony that Daniel Greene an advocate for socialism would appear on a show for Amazon is also pure cringe and hilarity.
Oh look, a wild “but you participate in society”. He also earns his living on UA-cam, owned by Google and has to pay money to live. Such a bad socialist. Lol.
I personally disagree. If you have read the book series and notice how many different threads they're setting up for seasons 2, 3 and on then you already have a very distinct difference between the quality of WoT and CW's super hero shows. I think it's much closer to the first season of the Witcher which had some hiccups with effects and writing here and there, but the season together as a whole is solid.
@@jlaw131985 Daniel has recently tried to get an embargo on TOEI going, for copyright issues with UA-camrs. Funny thing is, Amazon has been doing the exact same thing to some of his "friends", not on Amazon "white list", for short extracts and even stills...not one word. And that, that is hypocritical.
@@ChristmasLore You mean the copyright strike they retracted the next day, after backlash including threatening to embargo things? And also he has gone on about UA-cam in general having a shitty system, just that this instance was one of the worst…and if there are more instances, maybe Daniel hasn’t even heard of them yet? I don’t know.
@@jlaw131985 , concerning Amazon, they did not retract "anything the next day", not for most of them. It can take days or weeks. TOEI most certainly didn't. It's the same situation in both case, yet Daniel was ready to stand against TOEI, not a word about Amazon. And yes, he did get himself out of it by putting it all on UA-cam, in his next video. Also true, but also very convenient....
I loved the open of this episode. The facial expressions and the utter relief when Tam took his helmet off, put his sword in the ground, and was like "I'm here to help" without saying those words was just marvelous. This was amazing.
The whole episode was.
Totally agree. Those facial expressions were everything. Chef’s kiss.
Her look of desperate relief hurt my heart. Tam al'Thor, good man through and through.
So everyone's just fine with his CGI de-aged face? Okey...
@@ChristmasLore yeah nah 🤦♀️😆😏
@@ChristmasLore I can not like the CGI of something and still really enjoy everything else.
I thought from the end of Ep6 when Moiraine channeled to open the Waygate that they'd really messed things up for later storylines, but now I have a theory. She wanted the EF5 to think that was the only way to open them, so that once inside they'd be committed and couldn't turn back. When she met with Loial to set up the journey, she told him not to let them know that there is another way to open them, so when they asked he just told them "You cannot use the One Power inside the Ways" because of the danger of Machin Shin. What bugs me is that none of them questioned how they were going to get out at the other end without using the One Power.
I suspect that they'll find out in Ep8 (or S2Ep1) that Padan Fain used the Ways and find out from him that you don't need the One Power to open a Waygate - there's a still for this Ep showing him holding a stone Avendesora leaf. The EF5 will trust Moiraine even less, although she didn't actually lie to them - she let Loial lie by omission.
You're thinking way too much.
It's nothing that deep.
The show constantly just glosses over things, and don't even hope it will ever be addressed again later, it won't.
Love the show. The cast is phenomenal, all of them. But the crew is doing a wonderful job bringing this world to life. Thanks to each of you, from a long-time lover of the book series!!
Yes!!!
The effect both practical and VFX on this show are top notch! Thanks effects teams!
Absolutely love the show. The cast is perfect, they embody their characters so well. I especially love everyone. The crew is amazing at their jobs, I know how much work goes on behind the scenes to make the actors shine. And the Tweeter Of Chaos and False Tweeter of Chaos are just brilliant at interacting with fans. Tai'Shar!
are there other remakes of The Wheel of Time?
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Such an amazing tv show!! It keeps getting better and better and for how strong it started being even better is a very mind-blowing accomplishment
Also Moiraine and Siuan forever, will ship them together till the end of time 🥰
Yes! We will ship them till the absolute end of time!
Loving this series
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I binged the first four episodes and now I'm on the weekly train, waiting for the finale now. Also, I'm on my first rewatch, got my partner into it now by talking about the show nonstop! He's in love too, and we've been discussing loads of theories.
Additionally, I started with the first book... So the show got me into reading again. What a surprise hit for me. Thanks to everyone on the show, and to Dusty for this lovely aftershow.
Daniel Green: “Min is the most accurate representation” hahhHhHhhahahahaha yes I also always viewed Min as a surly late-40s barmaid
Wondering if the finale cold open will be the Prologue... Honestly would love that.
That's my theory. The finale will cold open with us getting some of the backstory that the book readers got right up front. I've seen a screencap of that scene somewhere so I know it has been shot. The only way it can really fit into the storyline is as a cold open.
LTT and the Amyrlin Latra Posea (spelling). Futuristic look.
LTT and Ishy...YES YES YES!
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Loving the show, long-time fan of the books, and canNOT wait for the season finale. Look out for Slick Rick! And hope we get to see some of Brother Book.
You have been watching Everyday Negroes? that show cracks me up. Really upset that they have sold out of the Brother Book hoodie
@@claudiabailey5302 they are so great!
So on episode one, I recognised Egwene aka Madeleine Madden. She is an Aussie actor who starred in a Australian drama Mystery Road. She was brilliant in that series as she is in WOT. Well done Madeleine 👏 ✔ 👍 👌 🇦🇺
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Thank you to Matt, Riddhima, Kritter, and Daniel for doing such a great job! I am thankful to Amazon for putting this show together and choosing the weekly drop format to so we have time to analyze, anticipate, and get excited for week's episodes. It also provides a forum for shows like yours!
Matt I really enjoy the cast and crew interviews to date! It is exciting to see the insights from those that made the show! I am very excited for the finale! I also can't wait for season 2!
Amazon, please make more episodes per season! Love the show, but it could have been even better with more episodes. So everything won't feel so rushed and can get explained better.
That's down to the writers, not Amazon, ultimately.
Most show these days have to work within such constrains (and many, with way less money).
They need to learn to work with what they got: better writing, better editing: that's what they're paid for.
@@ChristmasLore it's up to Amazon to approve the amount of episodes a show gets.
My family and I watch every week, this is the only show that is appointment television for us. Outstanding work thus far, we're so excited to see more. 👍🏽👍🏽👏🏽🙌🏽🥰
Loving the show! It feels like a whole new adventure while staying true to the heart of the books. All we need are more episodes per season!
Im not gonna lie, i was so confused about what this video was acutally about. Glad it's about episode 7 and not episode 5. lol
Love this show so much. I really like that although the base story is the same, there are surprises even for the most knowledgeable readers.
For a second the thumbnail looked like painting depicting RamaRajya (kingdom of Rama) Ayodhya
Having Matt Hatch as your Innkeeper was an excellent choice! I am enjoying the show as it is just different enough to keep me guessing but close enough in main spirit of the books in my view to keep me watching to see what is next!
Julian: "Hi Dusty Wheel!"
Matt: "...and I'm sure all the fans are saying hi right back."
Me: *Waving excitedly at the screen even though I know no-one can see me*
The books are so much better. I'm still enjoying watching the show but they have definitely left a lot of room for improvement for season 2. I feel like the season finale will make it or break it for me.
Fantastic show just need 10 episode seasons.
There is a picture of Padan Fain holding a leaf when he comes out of the Ways.
SInce that was a cut scene still, I don't think they can discuss it on the "official" breakdown, but they sure do delve into it on their own channels.
Love this show and these extras 💜
Please let us know the release date for season 2 ASAP
They desperately need to just renumber these to match up with the episode numbers.
Ikr? What’s up with that? 🤨
Who is doing the voice over for the x-ray Origins? I recognize the voice but can't place the name =(
Sounds to me like the Thom Merrilin actor. At least for the promo. There are different narrators for each one. 😃
Great chat. Need these to tide me over in between each episode! That aiel opening was unreal, and really enjoyed meeting Min and Agelmar. Can’t wait for the final
One of the you tube sites showed a picture of Padan Faine looking at an Avendesora leaf. I cannot remember the host name but they
said it was a production photo that didn’t make it into the show.
If you look in the X-Ray bonus content, there's a still of him with the leaf.
Not a fan of napalm being used on anything. But when I saw The Blight was more than willing to make an exception.
Where does Fal Data get the food for the people and horses? The scene of people entering the walled city were not hauling food.
Can’t wait
I loved the cold open, but I don't understand why she took down her veil. Shouldn't her face be covered?
I noticed this too but on rewatch she had it up at the start, pulled it down when she initially thought she was safe to give birth and was done fighting.
Yeah she thought she was alone
Kinda busy trying to spit out a baby, yo. Also not a born and bred Aiel so covering her face probably didn't take priority over you know like staying alive long enough to give birth.
More more ✨👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
This might be mentioned but in the stills on x-ray, Fain is holding a Avendesora/Chora leaf. Might be a ter'angreal?
It's part of a Waygate, used to open/close it.
@@tamsinp7711 oh, I'm a bookie. I know that, but since you cannot move it to make the Waygate open they might have changed that as well, but probably cut because of Amazon-reasons. So I figure - ter'angteal.
@@phnome123 I think we just didn't see the leaf being used in this Ep, but will in either the next one or in Season 2.
In the books you could remove them but doing so either locks the gate open or closed.
Next week's episode? Isn't it "this week's"?
lol - the whole next week/this week thing always throws me off...😂
Why does the title say Ep 5?
Episode 5 of this podcast, about episode 7.
They're just as bad as social media as Dragonmount.
It feels like a radio show from the 9o'.
I liked DW, but not suited for the job. Younger, more energetic UA-camrs with larger audience would have worked way better.
This feels....old.
Slick Rick just goes wherever he wants at this point. He probably works for Uber too.
wheel of time now is your time 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I think Padan Fain is possessed, for lack of a better word, by the Dark One. At the very least he is being used by one of the Foresaken.
I am in love with the series! Thank you to all the people that brought my favourite books to life, can't wait to spend my birthday watching the last episode with my favourite cast!
There is no "love triangle". Get over your projections.
I’m on the same train that needs S2 immediately. 😩
I am disappointed.
The producer/director spends way to much time on gratuitous sexual material or romantic scenes, rather than just telling a good story.
The character development is shallow and weak. Only Perrin gets a decent amount of development.
There is so much missing about Rand’s training.
It would be nice if Amazon would step in and right this sinking ship. Give the producer a big budget and let them make 23 episode seasons, as this series deserves; stop being cheap!
Tell the producer to focus on accuracy toward the books, not his personal vision, because we don’t gaf about him, we read the books because of the late Robert Jordan, God rest his soul, and Brandon Sanderson.
You should hire Peter Jackson to do this series properly.
non reader, soon to be reader rofl but the show is FANTASTIC
When will the 7th Origin Story animated short be released? I need more!
Wheel of Time > Witcher
Gah, it's still throwing me off that the episodes listed here don't line up with the adaptation. 😆
Episode 7 was the best one yet for me!
Really enjoyed the show so far (mostly). Great acting and characters really gel well. I am hoping for a bit more nuance with the one power next season because although Nyneaves giant power spheres (both healing and holding off the black wind) look good, from a wilder its just too easy. Why would she bother going to the white tower if she can already do all that....
Control. She can only channel when consumed by anger.
And now we can binge season 1
Why did they change the great serpent rings?
Great movie^^
Love the show!! Can't wait for more .. gonna start reading the book soon because I love the lore so much.
Ep 7!!!! And we mere woman complain about childbirth! Ha!
Even though there were changes, the only real criticism I have of the show is there are so few episodes. So c'mon Amazon, cough up some more budget for additional episodes for your most popular show to date.
Everything looks amazing in the show. The effects team did such an amazing job.
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@Anne Day Right. Removed. Yet, someone who has read the book should not call her Aiel. Say "she may be an Aiel" one could say instead. Since Aiel were not introduced yet. Oh, is that not another spoiler?
@Anne Day Of course I removed after you pointed out. I usually don't comment on channels where I have to pay attention to spoilers and I was careless. Naturally I don't want to ruin the show for others. It just bothered me to hear "some Aiel woman" and commented without further thinking.
(The statement in this form still bothers me, though... Anyway.)
All the best, enjoy the show!
Never understood why people like Min so much, compared to nearly any other charater in the books the only thing she really does is get diddled on Rands knee.
*The only thing she does is keep Rand sane and unbroken for much longer than he should have been.
Amazing *has* to be deleting comments here, right?
Oh wow, Amazon jumped on the creator train! Yeah, they do a lot, you should pay them!
Great episode & watching everyone avoid spoilers is hilarious
SORRY FOLKS, ITS A CLUSTERF. OF A ADAPTATION.
These sellouts all agree with you, but they are being paid to pretend like they love it.
Prime video sucks now. Overrun with rentals and extra channels add ons. Just garbage.
Best Episode so far without a doubt !
i see... you got paid... that's why~ 😅
Read the series and don't understand how people like this show. Bad casting, bad acting except for a few, bad production, changes that fundamentally change the characters and story. I understand you need to make changes to make it a viable show, but keep the character's tone, experience and motivations the same. It looks so cheap and cheesy to me compared to many other fantasy shows out there. They took a great book series and killed it.
Jesus Saves give him a chance he will make a difference ❤️!
Garbage show, did no justice to the source material
Loving the show
The second person was he a man or woman
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Do better, I don't even want to watch the next season.
"Congratulations To Everyone who comes in every single second"🌺💕❤❤🌺🌺🌺🌺❤❤❤
Read the books. These series are such a disgrace. I never thought that someone could mess everything so bad. If you can't read - create your own fantasy universe and don't destroy others' work.
Padan Fain is Ishamael
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As so called book lovers I'm ashamed of all u yestubers
“I love books, but I love money more.”
The show is horrendously bad in my opinion, it's like a CW soapy super hero show crossed with a low budget Lord of the Rings with all the boxes ticked and no risks taken. The irony that Daniel Greene an advocate for socialism would appear on a show for Amazon is also pure cringe and hilarity.
Oh look, a wild “but you participate in society”. He also earns his living on UA-cam, owned by Google and has to pay money to live. Such a bad socialist. Lol.
I personally disagree. If you have read the book series and notice how many different threads they're setting up for seasons 2, 3 and on then you already have a very distinct difference between the quality of WoT and CW's super hero shows. I think it's much closer to the first season of the Witcher which had some hiccups with effects and writing here and there, but the season together as a whole is solid.
@@jlaw131985 Daniel has recently tried to get an embargo on TOEI going, for copyright issues with UA-camrs.
Funny thing is, Amazon has been doing the exact same thing to some of his "friends", not on Amazon "white list", for short extracts and even stills...not one word.
And that, that is hypocritical.
@@ChristmasLore You mean the copyright strike they retracted the next day, after backlash including threatening to embargo things?
And also he has gone on about UA-cam in general having a shitty system, just that this instance was one of the worst…and if there are more instances, maybe Daniel hasn’t even heard of them yet? I don’t know.
@@jlaw131985 , concerning Amazon, they did not retract "anything the next day", not for most of them. It can take days or weeks.
TOEI most certainly didn't.
It's the same situation in both case, yet Daniel was ready to stand against TOEI, not a word about Amazon.
And yes, he did get himself out of it by putting it all on UA-cam, in his next video. Also true, but also very convenient....